Well another year has come and gone. I generally view the end of August as my year marker for The Rational Male. I didn’t add a page for year 4 since I’m not sure I want to clutter up the top of my blog layout with links pages, but I may yet combine the best of years 4 and 5 into one page.
A lot has happened in this span, I began the Red Pill Monthly talks with Niko Chosky. I still think I sound like a nasally teenager when I hear my voice, but the feedback has been nothing short of amazing on these so I believe we’ll continue with them for the foreseeable future.
Right after my year 4 best-of I did my first liv appearance in Vegas with Christian, Goldmund and Tanner Guzy at The Man in Demand Conference. I’ve discussed doing another one with Christian McQueen and we’re looking into venues for 2017. This was just an overwhelming experience to meet up with my readers in person, do the talk and have dinner at Sinatra’s. This was the first time for me to do an on premise event and I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a nervous wreck the night before, but every guy in attendance just impressed me to no end and the whole thing was something I’ll remember for the rest of my life.
I went through the process of having the audio mastered (courtesy of Sam Botta) to make it available via DigiRAMP for anyone to get a hold of now too.
Probably the biggest TRM news of 2016 was the release of the audio book of The Rational Male. It was a long time coming, but I think well worth the wait. I’ve come to believe that a book needs a time to mature into what its overall reception will be. The Rational Male book continues to sell very well and my focus has always been on emphasizing the printed book above all else since I feel that medium is the best to spark discussions and pass along to men who need it at the right time. That said, Sam Botta convinced me that men listen to books more than they read them so I thought the time was right and he’d just gotten back in the saddle so to speak after his debilitation in a hit & run car incident.
The book has exceeded any expectation I ever had for it and I still receive emails and tweets about how it’s changed men’s lives in the best possible way. The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine is also doing far better than I’d hoped if not eclipsing the first book. Sam and I are now in the process of doing the audio for TRMPM and I expect it will go live in early 2017.
The blog traffic continues to grow too.
As most readers know, I do very little self-promotion for TRM and I only advertise the book on the TRP reddit forum and posting occasional Amazon reviews on Twitter. I always want the the message of this blog and my work to be relayed by the men who read and contribute to it. I’m a believer in the bottom up plan for improving men’s lives and ultimately the social order we find ourselves. I’m glad to see men passing on what they learn here. I’m happy to be able to focus on my ideas and have men spread the word for me.
I’ve done art direction and brand management for over two decades now. It’s what I do for a living so it wouldn’t be a stretch for me to convert TRM into a similar commercial success, but that’s never been my goal. From the outset I wanted to just do what I do and talk about the ideas I’ve come to or the dots I’ve connected. That isn’t to say I don’t appreciate making a little money from it, but I’ll never compromise my message to sell more books or start a Patreon site.
I’ve had guys tell me I should quit my day job and write full time, but I’ve never really needed to be an author for my livelihood. I do quite well for myself and not being beholden to being an official author allows me the freedom to do what I do without the concern of having to write ‘for’ anyone. I know there are guys whose schtick is to treat their writing like a product and they tell you to write for what your audience wants to read, but I think this inherently compromises the authenticity of the real message.
My goal isn’t to sell books, it’s to genuinely change men’s lives for the better with the tools and truths I present in my work. The Rational Male isn’t a ‘product’ for salesmen to sell, it’s a collection of ideas that, really, we’re all responsible for authorship of. Ideas are a hard thing to suppress, and they last far longer than the men who conceived them.
Honestly, when I started this blog back in 2011 I never imagined it would grow into what it’s become today. I have some plans now to do a site redesign. I’ve never really focused on the look of the blog, I just poured myself into its content, but I think after 5 years I’ll freshen the look up soon. I’m also in the middle of the first round of edits for my third book, the working title being The Rational Male, The Red Pill. That may change, but the primary focus will be on defining what the Red Pill is from an intersexual dynamics perspective. As a matter of policy I generally refrain from being too prescriptive for individual men to apply their Red Pill awareness, but in the new book I’ll break this rule and provide some generally applicable ways to live in a Red Pill paradigm.
Red Pill parenting and family interactions in a feminine-primary social order will feature prominently. Yes, it will include selections from the blog again, but with each I’ve added what I believe are general solutions to Red Pill problems, plus more new content.
Well, that’s it. I continue to be humbled by the response and reception of The Rational Male and I want to extend my true gratitude for everyone’s input, participation, reading my ideas and helping me do what I do – even the critics and detractors make me a better Red Pill author. So here’s what I thought represents the best posts from year 5.
Let me know what your favorites were in the comments and let me know how TRM has helped you as well.
With much gratitude,
Rollo Tomassi
Interviews
The Feminine Imperative
Parenting
Red Pill / Game
Positive Masculinity
Hypergamy
Social
“How do you reconcile these two thoughts?”
They don’t need reconciliation, they are congruent.
The strong have a better chance of personal survival than the weak.
The powers that be can try to take away your right to fight and resist. They only truly succeed when you voluntarily give up your WILL to fight and resist. Ask me why I’m not living under Jim Crow. Ask me how much death, financial ruin and imprisonment that cost. Ultimately women only have the power ceeded to them by a majority of men. Who’s the real problem here? Get stronger Get smarter Get better. Hope is not a strategy, but I can only hope that the sphere can get its collective shit together and provide men with the information… Read more »
Ooppsss. I inadvertently sounded pro communist in that last sentence.
Y’all get what I mean.
“The strong have a better chance of personal survival than the weak.”
So it can work.
“Hope is not a strategy, but I can only hope that the sphere can get its collective shit together and provide men with the information needed and spark a will towards meaningful resistance.”
That’s what YaReally is trying to do.
“The powers that be can try to take away your right to fight and resist.
They only truly succeed when you voluntarily give up your WILL to fight and resist.”
To those who try to argue that is no such thing as natural rights, that all rights are social constructs, I point out that the right of self defense is innate in creation.
Every juvenile mouse and cockroach understands and implements that right.
If they didn’t, none of us would be here to talk about it.
@ kfg
Affirmative.
@ Andy
No. Brother ya is trying to figure out how to build a stronger blue pill.
He’s concentrating on risk avoidance instead of correction.
Working within the injustice is not the best long term strategy.
@Blaximus: “Ask me why I’m not living under Jim Crow.”
Because you are not one of the 21 year old UMC black kids at Yale or Missou demanding segregation “for equality”?
@Andy: “So it can work.”
No. You will have to explicate your reasoning for believing that resistance and personal survival implies the Blue Pill, white picket fence ideal.
“No. Brother ya is trying to figure out how to build a stronger blue pill.”
Okay… Raising kids is blue pill?
“Working within the injustice is not the best long term strategy.”
What’s your plan?
“”No. You will have to explicate your reasoning for believing that resistance and personal survival implies the Blue Pill, white picket fence ideal.”
Again… raising kids the right way so that they can raise kids the right way is blue pill?
@ Andy
Lol. Your question is a perfect example of the confusion caused by trying to use haphazard work around as viable solutions.
I would never employ that kind of strategy when building a network, nor as a long term solution irl.
@yareally, string “Like someone else said, you can do the pencil offer thing which is classic DavidD “Which is better for you Tuesday or Wednesday?” but I’m finding these days girls have SO MUCH SHIT GOING ON every fucking day of the week because they’re SO connected through social media to everyone and there’s ALWAYS something happening (VS the old days where they had to phone eachother and she wouldn’t get an invite from some obscure person she barely knows it would mostly be her close friends) that the response is often “Actually I can’t this week” which feels like… Read more »
@ Andy
The solution is to fight fire with fire.
The solution in the case at hand, is men gaining knowledge and understanding.
Raising kids is not blue pill, but blue pill is always blue pill.
“Lol. Your question is a perfect example of the confusion caused by trying to use haphazard work around as viable solutions.”
… What’s your solution?
@ Andy
I’ve discussed my solution a hundred times during the discussion already.
I mentioned it again a few posts back.
You have donned blinders.
Remove them and pay attention.
“The solution in the case at hand, is men gaining knowledge and understanding.”
So, at the end of the day, with that knowledge and understanding they might want to have kids. How exactly are they going to do that without
“Working within the injustice”
“Again… raising kids the right way so that they can raise kids the right way is blue pill?”
If the “right way” is defined by Leave it to Beaver, yes.
And even when I was watching Leave it to Beaver in first run, in the specific real world version of the model it depicted, I understood that it was built on a mythical framework.
In those days I was supposed to understand that it was a caricature.
Blue pill is gonna blue pill. Always.
“If the “right way” is defined by Leave it to Beaver, yes.”
Why don’t you just tell me what “resistance” means to you. And please refrain from the fortune cookie bullshit.
You are practicing resistance right now.
Complaining about fortune cookie bullshit and missing the understanding that’s being imparted.
Get smarter.
Where have I heard this before?
I have been laying out an argument for pages.
“Do it the right way,” is the fortune cookie.
“I have been laying out an argument for pages.”
lol. Slitting throats? Is that your argument? I don’t think that’s Blaximus’ argument. In fact, I don’t think you guys agree at all which is why you aren’t just saying what you want to say because you don’t want to risk not being in alignment with each other.
Kfg and I agree more than we disagree, but 100% agreement is not the goal.
Men are individuals.
Understanding is one of the goals.
I’m not interested in forcing you to agree 100% with my argument.
I am, however, interested in you understanding my argument.
@yareally (Skip to (4) below if you are short on time) @all Following this marriage discussion(monogamous marriage and not getting married which I think are interlinked) all these while. Just few thoughts I would share and for my own better understanding of the things I have learned reading things here. By the way, none of the points I mention is my own, just got it from CH and TRM and reading yareally archives. ***(1) Having never grown with the knowledge of ‘frame’ I just couldn’t fathom the depth it would help in dealing with women. Now that I have read… Read more »
“I am, however, interested in you understanding my argument.”
Does it go beyond “get better?” Because I got that.
If you want to raise your own children in a stable relationship, MGTOW or PUA are obviously not options. And most women, at least the more valuable ones, aren’t willing to start a family outside marriage. They expect marriage i.e. a clear male signal of commitment. We’re living in a matriarchy. What this means in practice is that women make most financial decisions, and fatherhood is seen as optional. In other words, fatherhood only exists to the extent that mothers want it to exist. That’s the law of the land. And the broad social consensus supports this. The majority doesn’t… Read more »
Ergo, bluest of blue pill.
Doesn’t M Simon have 2 or 3 adult kids with a woman he calls “the LTR” because they aren’t married? That sounds like a relevant POV for this topic… But anyway, the key to keeping her attracted is triggering her hypergamy. Agreed? MOST men will not be able to overcome the handicap to attraction marriage and promising monogamy entail. And we KNOW these two acts go against attraction principles. So why willfully put those shackles on? And for the older guys who say it comes down to frame/hand (skimming the last few days but I think your point boils down… Read more »
* sigh *
Because your frame is NEVER overtly stated. There’s no reason to expose your hand unless you’re ready to fold.
@Rollo ” I’m not sure how realistic this is (even Gene eventually married Shannon Tweed) as a man gets older, but most men are never going to be Gene Simmons” idk, it seems like the exact same stuff the mainstream would have said to Tyler, Mystery etc. when they started. “Getting hot chicks and having a satisfying love life is only for rockstars, it’s not realistic for YOU, stay in your box, you little provider beta male” Those guys just did not accept that, and now look the knowledge based they have built and their success. Why couldn’t it be… Read more »
@ klem
You are free to give it a go.
I get this sinking feeling that frame is being massively short changed around these parts.
What gives?
“Because your frame is NEVER overtly stated. There’s no reason to expose your hand unless you’re ready to fold.”
Like when you told your wife “were getting married” wasn’t overtly establishing your frame?
@Blax
It seems like a legitimate question to ask : we know that mariage and monogamy is a shitty deal for men, therefore it is interesting to know exactly why the alternative plan we are devising is “unrealistic”, so that we can work on it and adjust it, in order to increase the rate of success
“Slitting throats? Is that your argument?” Do you believe you can resist without slitting a throat or three? Do you think you can win by playing modern, feminized Aikido with women, where the guy who flips flipped himself? Resistance is conflict. I assigned myself responsibility for the direction this thread has taken because it fanned into full flame when I laid out the basics of the actual facts on the ground, and then proceeded to lay out actionable and pragmatic steps men could take to begin their resistance. Not a fortune cookie in the lot for pages. Then Ya Really… Read more »
No. It wasn’t stating my frame. I do not state my frame.
It was a declarative statement. The acceptance on her part exhibited acceptance of my non verbal frame.
She never knew what hit her… initially.
She’s been accepting and complimentary every since.
” . . . fatherhood only exists to the extent that mothers want it to exist.”
This.
This is what I pointed out in the case of the guy who was “keeping her pregnant.”
This is what I pointed out when Blaximus, who didn’t want children, ended up with them anyway because his wife was “lazy.”
These women had children because they wanted them. Period.
@ klem
If you’ve read anything here that convinced you that the ” plan ” being put forth is the best option for you, and your convinced that you’ve done due diligence, then it’s up to you to proceed if you choose.
You don’t need my approval ever.
@Blax
Who talked about anybody’s approval? This is a strange comment.
We are just exchanging ideas to create a knowledge base, just like PUAs did in the past.
@ya (not that you could’ve necessarily SDL’ed her, I think you calibrated solid to her shyness etc, just saying in general this is why Scray is like “JUST FUCK THEM NOW” lol) yeah, like….always try to take the shot because once you and her part ways, her entire life circumstances just come back at her and you’re just some guy she had a ‘nice’ conversation with, tee-hee! there are a billion of those just waiting around the corner, why single any one of them out? SDL’s are complicated. if the target is shy you just have to think ‘ok, well… Read more »
“No. It wasn’t stating my frame. I do not state my frame…
It was a declarative statement.”
Lol, what?
“The acceptance on her part exhibited acceptance of my non verbal frame.
She never knew what hit her… initially.
She’s been accepting and complimentary every since.”
K so my original point stands, why would this NOT work by just, as a declarative statement, say “were NOT getting married” ??
I’m just trying to reconcile what a strong frame can accomplish and what it cant
@ Rollo “the legal commitment to exclusivity starts with the kid you didn’t plan to have but are legally bound to support.” This is the kind of shit that makes me want to consider going full MGTOW and just avoid sex completely. “Any temporary pleasure I might get from that has to be measured against what I could potentially lose because of it.” There’s always a risk of getting a girl pregnant when you’re having sex, no matter how you go about it. Even one of my friends got his wife pregnant after getting a vasectomy, and even if vasectomies… Read more »
@ kfg
Ummm….you are confusing me with some other commenters.
I’ve always wanted kids, as I come from a ridiculously large family and was conditioned accordingly.
My first child was kinda a surprise only due to timing.
My second child was planned totally.
My goal was 5 children. I reasonably and economically settled on two.
Calibration. Lol.
Conditioning is a motherfucker. My great grandfather sired 7 kids well into his 60’s. 8 in his first marriage, 7 in the second.
@ othergrain
Because a declarative statement without frame is just a declarative statement. Saying shit is half the battle.
@Blaximus: “you are confusing me with some other commenters.”
Mea culpa. It was Roused.
We just wasted six comments on semantics, could you answer my question now?
With a strong frame, (which as we just learned separates a statement from a declarative statement) why would a silly young girl not fall into your frame that marriage is not necessary to raise children in a loving 2 parent home?
” . . . why would a silly young girl not fall into your frame that marriage is not necessary to raise children in a loving 2 parent home?”
She wouldn’t necessarily, although she would have to be so silly as to be disqualified as to her suitability to be a mother. She’d be likely to hand a kid a pair of scissors and say, “Now go run and play.”
A non- silly girl would see personal advantage in it and allow you to believe that her acceptance is “falling into your frame.”
The Game is deep.
Because women are not men. They don’t think the same way. They don’t utilize logic in the same manner.
It they did, it would be useless to try and employ game concepts on them.
They are mostly reactive to their environments and to being led by a strong male.
Is that semantic -free enough?
If not…must remember that there is no spoon in her hand.
“Do you believe you can resist without slitting a throat or three? Do you think you can win by playing modern, feminized Aikido with women, where the guy who flips flipped himself?”
Slitting throats won’t win hearts and minds. Maybe it will take 200 years, but I’d rather have lasting change than a mini-revolt that’ll just piss people off. The end result may not be Leave it to Beaver, but it’ll be better than what we have now.
Lol.
Yeah. Wouldn’t want to piss anybody off now would we?
I have a couple film of samurai swords and Bowie knives with surgically sharp edges.
…. just saying.
Ugh… spellcheck.
I have a collection of samurai swords……
Damn.
The disdain/ZFG for non-UMC men (or guys who weren’t born with advantages (like good male influences etc)) here blows my mind. I’m not even thinking about the country, I’m thinking about all the minorities and shit that are in that 90%, like I have tons of buddies from all sorts of different backgrounds and races that I’m picturing trying to help. I can’t relate to this “well this small set of white people have a 75% chance of success, so eh, fuck everyone else” mindset. Like, what about my non-white buddy who’s a plumber and is just looking to settle… Read more »
@Rollo
Semi-related to OP:
Thanks for continuing to maintain a place where dudes can have a massive argument over a subject, step on toes, be utterly unconcerned with feelings, and hash shit out without getting banned. I think that’s been just as important as your writing for all of us.
“Slitting throats won’t win hearts and minds.” Winning hearts and minds is not the strategy of resistance. It is the strategy of consensus. Consensus is the FI strategy. “They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disenfranchised, and when a woman guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our… Read more »
@Hollenhund
Mass automation via AI and robotics has been and is going to continue to hit men a lot harder than women. Lacking value outside of the ability to perform labor that can be automated away is a massive problem for us as a whole.
“They don’t utilize logic in the same manner.” I never said to logically convince her of it. “They are mostly reactive to their environments and to being led by a strong male.” So you agree, if a man had a strong enough, unspoken, frame that marriage was not necessary to successfully raid kids in a loving 2 parent home, she would fall into it? It’s a leading question anyways, so I’ll just skip to the conclusion … “And most women, at least the more valuable ones, aren’t willing to start a family outside marriage.” Because NAWALT, some women just won’t… Read more »
You never lose the ability to walk away. Ever.
It’s in your head.
One can rationalise reasons NOT to walk away, and they may be reasonable, but unless you happen to lose both legs, you can always walk away actually.
You ALWAYS have a choice.
Feeling otherwise could cost you your life.
” . . . we haven’t reached the bottom of the rabbit hole.”
And as hypergamy is the be all and end all of relationships (men’s game is a collection of tactics to deal with hypergamy), the bottom of the rabbit hole is “what do women want”?
Really.
Oddly enough it is ” . . . your ability to walk away . . .” when told.
But leaving your credit card behind.
@KFG Thanks so much for taking one of the worst comment threads and slowly turning it into one of the best ever. Why the hell do you have to explain things so slowly and enigmatically? You did a great job. I finally have my eyes opened so much more than even yesterday in regards to red pill awareness. And I learned that my own strategy and motivations are the right ones (for me). I just didn’t know the underlying basis for them. Now I do. And you actually make me care more about those other 90%. “I have been pointing… Read more »
My friend told me this material is all strategizing about women and is wrong, and the only true way to be with women is to be totally open and honest with them, tell them everything,then they will give you total love, care to comment
Notreally
“@Blaximus: “you are confusing me with some other commenters.” Mea culpa. It was Roused.” To be more clear, I didn’t want children early when I was into 20s. Shit happened so I married her as I was foolish and very blue pill. When she got pregnant the second time (still very blue pill) that was deliberate on my part and knew exactly the moment it happened and I wanted it. Maybe that even has something to do with the fact I always had a better resltiosnhip with my daughter than my son, or not. Either way, going into it the… Read more »
“Winning hearts and minds is not the strategy of resistance.”
Worked for feminism, gays, and weed. I don’t see why it can’t work for us.
@Rollo, @YaReally, @Everybody @Rollo: Honestly, I don’t think you can serve two masters; you can serve Game and yourself, our you can serve your children as a Father. Both require sacrifice […] Yes, this might very well be the case. It could very well be impossible to get the two under one hat FOR THE AVERAGE DUDE. Because all we have now, as a theoretical example, is guys like Gene Simmons and (maybe/probably) other celebrities. They are not comparable because they can hire 12 nannies if they wish and BUY the fucking hotel to screw their FB’s in. The average… Read more »
@John
Assuming you’re not trolling, you need to start with Rollo’s year one stuff and read all of it. The answer to your question (and most of the questions that would follow) are already here.
@SJF: “Why the hell do you have to explain things so slowly and enigmatically?” Because I am not interested in talking at men. I am interested in men, at least those who can, thinking and thus coming to understand. And what I have to say has already been said by others. Rollo chief among them. I bring nothing new to the table. But you can make all the declarative statements you want, if men do not hear them they have no effect. And most men, most of the time, will not hear. It’s just noise while they continue to go… Read more »
“Assuming you’re not trolling, you need to start with Rollo’s year one stuff and read all of it.”
Oddly enough, that’s what I was just about to suggest to Andy.
“I am interested in men, at least those who can, thinking and thus coming to understand.”
Sure as shit worked for me. Thanks again.
Q: Why is it called WIC and not PIC? A: Because Walking Marriage is the . . . oh, never mind. Unless, since it’s actually a two caste system, you are in the upper caste. There the model is the aristocratic. Pairs bonded for the purpose of Family (not family). They are not “love” marriages, they are function marriages. If you happen to find love (Victoria and Albert did), that’s great, but that isn’t what it’s about. So even there women’s hypergamy and men’s promiscuity is still the rule of life. They just have another model for dealing with it.… Read more »
I have been in a position to have been able to observe some people that have been in the swinger thing, to Trent Lane’s point. My first wife and I were seriously approached 3 times to join in the festivities by a particular couple. We declined. I was able to observe this particular scene for well over a decade. This is why I speak of ” over time “. Even though there were rules and agreements, it still all fell apart and dissipated into mostly sad and lonely people with broken spirits in the end. The average person cannot pull… Read more »
@kfg
The average dude is fucked, so your solution is kill them all?
“Even though there were rules and agreements, it still all fell apart . . .” The system requires that the principle rules and agreements must be those of the upper caste, the aristocratic, or it doesn’t work. The lower caste tends to mimic behaviours of the upper (the upper collects unique or rare items, such as Monets and Stradivariuses. The lower collects in imitation, but they collect mass produced items such as baseball cards and plastic action figures, which have no actual value), but since they are doing so without the necessary framework underneath them, they do not get the… Read more »
Meanwhile, motherless babies…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/09/13/motherless-babies-possible-as-scientists-create-live-offspring-w/
” . . . motherless babies… ”
And the radical feminists and radical MGTOW send up a resounding cheer.
KFG
Are you calling for an out and out Equalist win – game over – or just a run of bad innings for the next few generations? For the indomitable male spirit to succumb forever to the FI and the Alpha Farms of 2045?
Blax
The risks of other partners to any pltr set up is not well understood by the proponents. Dopamine and oxytocin are powerful behavior modifiers and the link to attraction as well as pair bonding.
How rational can a male be on drugs?
Interesting read
http://casualsexproject.com/learning-experience/
Excellent point. Get your prescription to meds that will defeat an excess of dopamine and oxytocin without monitoring being required.
@yareally @walawala @forge @pua Need some tips on pinging cold numbers again. Asian girl i will ping in a week or two. However, I still have several other numbers as well. There’s the two blakc chciks who flaked on me an hour before the day 2 saying “hey, not going to be able to make it today.” These were both 1-2 months ago. There’s the other asian girl who flaked because she has a boyfriend. She should be back at school now. May be with bf, may have broken up. Either way, she’s too far away to do anything, but… Read more »
oh, and key thing with that asian girl with the bf is that she flaked on me when I said I was about to call her, but she sent me a veeery long text about her having a bf and all. Based on that, and how into me she was on our initial interaction, I sense that she was definity willing to bang me, except she got asd once we were apart and flaked from feeling slutty for considering cheating on her bf. but the point is there is definite attraction to that, so if I can dispel that ASD… Read more »
Here is a tip Hank… Delete them all… Move forward. Excercise your agency. Get used to the feeling.
@Sentient: Depends on how many 1st Marines we’ve got left after the poor bastards who were frozen into their mummy bags because it’s 30 frickin’ below out and the zippers are made out of metal got slaughtered. Course it wouldn’t hurt to have a Chesty Puller to get them to stop crying for their mommies, pull together and fight. If that happened there aren’t enough women in the world to stop men from going wherever they want to go. Women know that – and it scares them shitless. And gets them all excited at the same time. Frickin’ women. Heh!… Read more »
@sentient lol there is a reson I didn’t call you out in my post lol things don’t work anymore like they did in 1897 when you were a young whippersnaper lol. Shit has changed. And now girls flake like a motherfucker So rather than stick my head in the sand, I am trying to learn to adapt to changing times. And as much as I hate texting, I need to get better at it so I can get girls better and flip cold girls to girls I can get to go out with me. The simple reality of 2016 is… Read more »
@hank
And now girls flake like a motherfucker
So schedule two or three for the same time and flake on all but the one who isn’t gonna flake.
You know that that’s what girls are doing.
@asdgamer
sure sure. but as usual, my issue is my situ where I don’t have access to many girls, so it is hard to do that. but yeah, I get your point. That’s where I have started to do things like pre-empively flake on girls when they since they are going to flake, so I flake on them first.
Hank Lookbi know you are a gamma, you dont need to reinforce it with every post. You are trying to text a handful of 2 month old leads because you are in scarcity mode. You develop an abundance mentality by acting in an abundance mentality? Do you have the mental strength to delete these “wood” numbers (as yareally would say quoting Boiler Room) or not? Or are you afraid because you dont have others? Consult your balls… What do they say on the matter? Try it. Grow. And stop acting like a faggot everytime you get advice you are uncomfortable… Read more »
@sentient @pua lol, I had forgotten about those numbers I mentioned. thats how concerned I was about them. I just got to thinking “hey, actually, I can use these to practice text game. turn these dead numbers into learning resources.” but apparently I should just delete them to prove how “manly” I am. lol that’s why whenever a car breaks down, you just toss it out. in fact, screw mechanics. who needs to understand how cars work. just buy a new one. lol you learn shit fast by sticking in there and trying to make things work Say you’re behind… Read more »
deleting numbers if the girl hasn’t been an outright mean bitch (no flaking doesn’t count) is silly and violates RULE 1: IT’S. NEVER. OVER.
@sentient
Do you have the mental strength to delete these “wood” numbers (as yareally would say quoting Boiler Room) or not? Or are you afraid because you dont have others?
lol but when i’m in the middle of abundance that’s when I’m MOST LIKELY to be in the mood to ping bitches, because I DON’T TAKE THE FLAKING PERSONALLY…
it’s when I’m in scarcity mode that I’m like ‘fuck this bitch, she won’t talk to me, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!”
When i’m on top of the world, i’m like ‘fuck it she seemed cool, let me see if we can relink…’
ok, i’m about half way caught up…lol…and only on page 6!…lol…f*k! you guys need to slow down… i need to get some work done…lol… @Rollo “no” on nested comments. we tried that before…lol… one page would be nice though, for ease of searching… and +1 on keep the links to latest comments handy, but also it would be nice if you could keep a link to the last comment in the last thread or two, so we could see if someone posted, although if it’s one page searching wouldn’t be so bad… i still want that ‘like’ button, though!…lol… so,… Read more »
@scray exactly. most of the girls numbers I have were fairly into me when I met them. They flaked just because that’s the zeitgeist. So most of them I can probably get to meet with me again if I can improve my text game. that’s the disconnect with sentient. he isn’t out there trying to pickup chicks on daygame. So he doesn’t see that nowadays, girls will flake on you for the flimsiest of reasons. So you have to learn to adapt to that and figure out how to ping cold numbers and flip them. If you are good enough… Read more »
Scray
Yes when you are in abundance mode… Which is different from not being in abundance mode.
The faster you get there and the longer you stay there the better.
And a fast way to get there is to demonstrate to yourself you are confident and can renew. Once you’ve done that, you unlock another level.
And that difference makes the difference in manifold ways.
What you are reluctant to lose is telling. Listen to your balls…
And Hank you are just making up rationalizations… You like to throw the natural lingo around to get past doing the critical work.
Having nothing is a “fuck you” position – The Gambler
Per kids without marriage…until you have kids, you’re just playing house. Kids are a much bigger commitment than marriage.
You can’t trust her enough to marry her but you’ll trust her with your progeny? Good luck with that. Because (HH is correct) that’s just another way to get screwed.
The terms “this is my husband” and “this is my wife” are value terms in society. It’s just about exclusively female valuation (if she’s a wife, it’s a signal that the man found her valuable enough to marry).
And everyone knows this. Social conditioning? Sure, but so is everything else.
Anon gets it. Wife does not equal female i fuck.
@sentient @scray @pua Okay, so what will get me to progress further Just ditch these numbers, and keep wandering around the mall looking for chicks to game like I have been doing. Or, ping these cold numbers to practice my text game and learn how to flip cold numbers so that I can learn to get flaking girls to meet me and bang IN ADDITION to also wandering around the mall looking for girls to game. Its just surreal to me that by my desire to do MORE work to practice and learn MORE skills, I am somehow not doing… Read more »
@hank holiday….2 months…flakes…find new ones. IF you have no contact with these girls there is no “magic” ping text for them. I have only one exception. I gamed a 32 year old nurse, number closed, then made plans to meet up. She showed up where I was djing a day before with a girlfriend and some guy…had no clue who the dude was but he left. We talked. The next day she texted to say she was sick….I left it alone. Then suddenly she contacted me after a month. She made the effort, send me a photo of her feet… Read more »
@hank The thing about number farming is most girls will give you their number. I get a lot of numbers that lead absolutely no where. The ones that lead to a day out are the ones I either bounce from the venue for a drink or if I’ve built up enough attraction and the day out is close by: the next day or so. Anything more than 3 days is a tough one…she gets excited about meeting up and then life gets in the way and suddenly it’s not so exciting anymore. Keep a text chat going with these girls… Read more »
@walawala
noted on the 2 month old numbers, but I am still going to practice it anyway lol.
however, what about for the more recent chicks, the ones I meet just a few weeks ago? how would you ping those.
@sentient Yes when you are in abundance mode… Which is different from not being in abundance mode. The faster you get there and the longer you stay there the better. And a fast way to get there is to demonstrate to yourself you are confident and can renew. Once you’ve done that, you unlock another level. And that difference makes the difference in manifold ways. well yeah man but…and I put this in a FR a WHILE ago about a smooth natural buddy of mine. he figured out this pinging shit all by himself and it was the MAIN WAY… Read more »
@Hank:
I don’t see that there’s any harm in keeping them around in your phone for the purposes you state. It’s not like they physically weigh you down or anything.
But I do have some concerns about how much they seem to weigh down your mind.
Why are you thinking so damned hard about some chick you might ping once every month or six just to see what happens?