Neofemininity

Left: A child shows off his favorite nightgown. Right: Throughout the weekend make-up is applied, removed and reapplied and wardrobe change is constant.

I’ll admit my reluctance to address anything written by Kevin Powell, but as his most recent CNN pandering to the Feminine Imperative was the Twitter topic du jour in the manosphere this week I thought I’d make a perfunctory stab at it. I’m reluctant to do so because in doing a take-down article I’ll only be preaching to the choir and revisiting many well established topics I’ve covered on The Rational Male for years now.

What convinced me was a conversation I had with Mrs. Tomassi while walking my greyhounds this week. She asked me, “What the hell is wrong with boys these days? The all have no balls. It’s like they want to be girls or something.” We’ve had this discussion before. It usually gets brought up after she’s heard some story about the boys at my daughter’s high school or she sees it first-hand at a football game or some other event.

“Pretty soon, everyone is going to be a woman. Look at Bruce Jenner, “Woman of the Year”?! In the next ten years everyone will be a woman.”

I told her I think ten years might be too long.

When I read male-apologetics like Kevin Powell’s tribute to his own feminine ‘transitioning’ and his efforts at identifying and qualifying to be considered a more ‘perfected man’ in the terms set for him by a feminine-primary social order, it’s not hard to believe that social switch is right around the corner.

A Crisis of Manhood

Masculinity in “crisis” is a hot seller for click-bait articles these days. Women embrace the meme because it offers the tacit prospect of wrangling men into a more definitive control by the Feminine Imperative. Like all popular characterization of conventional masculinity, men have a problem and the cure is to become more like women.

Average men, the ones who make it their sexual strategy to better identify with the feminine, get behind the meme because it offers an easy opportunity to present themselves as the ‘evolved’, not-like-other-guys men they’ve been conditioned to believe women will sexually respond to favorably. Embracing this men-as-problem meme also offers them the opportunity to passively compete intrasexually with the conventionally masculine men then would otherwise never engage.

Before I dig into Powell’s article here I think it’s important to revisit my essay about Vulnerability. Powell’s ego is invested in the ‘strength in weakness’ theme his feminine conditioning has taught him is ennobling and as you read through his pleas for a more feminine-perfected social order he’ll return to it often.

From Vulnerability:

For the greater part of men’s upbringing and socialization they are taught that a conventional masculine identity is in fact a fundamentally male weakness that only women have a unique ‘cure’ for. It’s a widely accepted manosphere fact that over the past 60 or so years, conventional masculinity has become a point of ridicule, an anachronism, and every media form from then to now has made a concerted effort to parody and disqualify that masculinity. Men are portrayed as buffoons for attempting to accomplish female-specific roles, but also as “ridiculous men” for playing the conventional ‘macho’ role of masculinity. In both instances, the problems their inadequate maleness creates are only solved by the application of uniquely female talents and intuition.

Perhaps more damaging though is the effort the Feminine Imperative has made in convincing generations of men that masculinity and its expressions (of any kind) is an act, a front, not the real man behind the mask of masculinity that’s already been predetermined by his feminine-primary upbringing.

Women who lack any living experience of the male condition have the calculated temerity to define for men what they should consider manhood – from a feminine-primary context. This is why men’s preconception of vulnerability being a sign of strength is fundamentally flawed. Their concept of vulnerability stems from a feminine pretext.

Masculinity and vulnerability are defined by a female-correct concept of what should best serve the Feminine Imperative. That feminine defined masculinity (tough-guy ridiculousness) feeds the need for defining vulnerability as a strength – roll over, show your belly and capitulate to that feminine definition of masculinity – and the cycle perpetuates itself.

[…]Men are ridiculous posers. Men are socialized to wear masks to hide what the Feminine Imperative has decided is their true natures (they’re really girls wearing boy masks). Men’s problems extend from their inability to properly emote like women, and once they are raised better (by women and men who comply with the Feminine Imperative) they can cease being “tough” and get along better with women. That’s the real strength that comes from men’s feminized concept of vulnerability – compliance with the Feminine Imperative.

[…]It’s indictment of the definers of what masculinity ought to be that they still characterize modern masculinity (based on the ‘feels’) as being problematic when for generations our feminine-primary social order has conditioned men to associate that masculinity in as feminine-beneficial a context as women would want.

They still rely on an outdated formula which presumes the male experience is inferior, a sham, in comparison to the female experience, and then presumes to know what the male experience really is and offers feminine-primary solutions for it.

It’s important to understand the machinations in which the Feminine Imperative will define masculinity for men. In order to maintain social preeminence the Feminine Imperative must keep men perpetually confused about what masculinity really is. This is precisely why the “crisis” of masculinity will, deliberately, never be solved to the satisfaction of the imperative. To solve the ‘crisis’ would be to deny the Feminine Imperative a method of ever changing, fluid control over men.

Tail Chasing

Thus we get inquisitive articles or mandatory gatherings to discuss “what is manhood?” In a state of feminine social primacy men discussing new definitions of masculinity is always a proposition of men chasing their own tails, but the ambiguity of that question is a calculated one.

Men are encouraged to continually attempt to answer “what is manhood?”, but the touchy-feely equalist appropriate answer is never one defined by the men asking it; the answer is always provided to them and this is always “whatever serves women the best”. Their confused state is a deliberate perpetual one.

As I stated in Vulnerability the narrative of the Feminine Imperative about masculinity is one that’s based falsehoods. If men define masculinity for themselves, and that definition serves men’s exclusive interests it is equated with posing or a front men falsely wear to mask the real masculinity that feminine primacy has ordained as legitimate.

So even when men collectively compare notes and prioritize their needs and their sexual strategy in the context of a legitimate definition of masculinity, the social narrative of feminism and feminine primacy readily disqualifies it as a being a macho bravado worn by men to cover their real vulnerable sensitive feminine-corrected egos provided for them by the imperative.

One of the ways of determining whether the propaganda you’ve dropped from the planes is sinking into the general populace is that your language, your narrative and your public relations material is willfully being professed by the people you hope to conquer. To say Powell is a Vichy Male wouldn’t do his obliviousness to being so credit. Powell is a testament to the degree to which feminine-primary, feminine-correct thought has saturated into men confused about their own masculinity, and the feminine correct definitions of it he’s ready to evangelize.

Neofemininity

Powell’s ego-investment in his feminine-defined masculinity is glaringly apparent.  To attack his belief is to attack his personality, but it’s important to note that his evangelizing reveals his obliviousness to his Blue Pill conditioning. Powell isn’t making a case for a ‘healthier masculinity’; he’s advocating for men adopting a neo-femininity in place of conventional masculinity. Powell is essentially advocating men become more perfected women and renaming that state “masculinity”.

I knew the guys were not comfortable with these mandatory gatherings, so I started each with a simple question:
What is a man?

Sighs of relief and phrases such as “leader,” “protector,” “caretaker,” “responsible,” “head of the house” fell from their mouths. Each session, I told them that they had just described my single mother and most women I’ve encountered in my life. These young men would grow quiet.

Powell kicks things off here with the blank-slate “men and women are functional equals” I described in Hypergamy Knows Best. This is the same “women are just as good at fathering as any man could be” rationale that reinforces men’s superfluousness with women. However, in doing so he sets the stage for defining masculinity in neo-feminine terms.

I grew up as most heterosexual boys did: I played every sport possible. I learned early on the rite-of-passage of seeing girls as sexual objects, as playthings, as anything except my equal. I fought because boys were taught to fight, be rough, antagonistic, to never show weakness, not even to cry, at least not in public. I digested every kind of pop cultural icon one could name, on television, in movies, in books, in my beloved hip-hop culture, who represented the mighty male figure that armies of us were instructed we must become.

This behavior led to catastrophic results for me. I had no clue how to express a balance of emotions for many years: It was either thunderous silence or raw explosions of rage. I did not know how to give love to myself or women and girls, and by the time I got to college, I merely did what other young males on my campus did: I had sex as casually as I slipped on my jeans and sneakers, and often did not give much thought to the woman on the receiving end. And I eventually pushed a girlfriend, post-college, into a bathroom door as we were arguing, the culmination of years of backward and very warped definitions of manhood imprisoned in pain and trauma.

Powell attempts to frame his case for a neo-feminine definition of masculinity in what are now very clichéd, very expected personal vignettes. It follows the Script.

We have the ostensibly ‘tough’ boy who grew up to be so thanks to a comically stereotypically male acculturation that taught him how to adapt and survive in his environment, but all of which stunted his capacity to balance his emotions. Emotional expression and an overemphasis on understanding emotion (in favor of reason) in men is the hallmark of a social narrative that prioritizes the feminine as the correct social context.

The story continues as expected. The kid who had no positive model of masculinity presented to him has an epiphany, renounces his unhealthy masculinity and adopts a non-toxic feminine-defined ‘healthy masculinity’ that prioritizes women under the auspices of “equality”. Most of his corrupted upbringing of course being the fallout from not having his superfluous father around to instruct him. My guess is Mom wasn’t quite the ‘equal’ of being the man he hoped to equate her with earlier.

Just as the feminist movement in America has challenged male domination in every form, a men’s movement is needed now more than ever before. The movement must be inclusive of males of all ages and backgrounds, rooted in peace, love and healthy definitions of manhood that include viewing women and girls as our equals. It should be a movement that is not in opposition to women, not trying to return to the days of “the rugged man,” but one that makes room for every kind of man possible (including men on the LGBTQ spectrum), where we can be vulnerable, emotionally available, truly free.

This is the crux of Powell’s misinformation. The ideal ‘masculinity’ in Powell’s estimate isn’t one of rugged individualism, but rather one that is more feminine-corrected; one in which a believes that society has progressed to a point where his personal vulnerabilities and emotionalism will not only be appreciated, but a source of intersexual attraction. His ideal simply amounts to a common plea for men to identify with women so thoroughly that they answer the question “what is a man?” with “a better woman.”

That Powell subscribes to egalitarian equalism is a given here, but what he needs to truly grasp is that men and women are not, and never have been functional equals. It’s ironic that he should describe his single mother ‘as a man’ and then go on to tell the story of his misspent masculine youth – he makes the case for necessary complentarianism without even realizing it. While I do agree about the necessity of understanding individuals other than ourselves, Powell never makes the connection that it is men upon whom the onus of understanding women always falls. You will never read deep soul searching testimonials like this from women who look to redefine femininity in ways that better accommodate the emotional health of men.

Caricatures of Masculinity

I undertook this post today because of a story I heard on NPR recently. It was about a tribe of Native Americans (I believe in Montana) who were struggling to preserve their indigenous language. The problem was that most of its native speakers were dying out and there were less than six tribe members who still used the language.

During the late 1800s there was a program instituted by the government that made great, often cruel, efforts to assimilate these Indian children into western society. That meant forbidding them from speaking their native tongue and adopting an American social identity. Being young, the kids had little choice and not the same sense of ethnic belonging to really understand why their parents would resist this assimilation.

I think a similar dynamic has been in effect in western culture with regard to masculinity for over sixty years. It’s come full circle now to the point where ‘men’ like Powell only know the caricatured, ridiculous portrayals of conventional masculinity when they need a convenient straw man to blow down. It’s like Indian children seeing the grotesque cartoon parodies of people of their ethnicity in the movies or media; after the laughter and denigration they come to a point of self-loathing where they gladly embrace the new racial identity that’s prepared for them.

The point of Powell’s article was a plea to more thoroughly assimilate young men into a neo-feminine definition of masculinity. He believes that a re-education of boys would help avert more mass shootings by these same young men.  So invested is he in this narrative that the question of whether doubling-down on the re-education in feminine primacy already in place might in fact be the associative cause of these shootings, men’s 4-times higher rate of suicide or PTSD. This isn’t even an afterthought for him.

To Powell the only cure resides with women. To become more like women is masculinity to him. We will denigrate and admonish the overt sexualization of young girls, but when young boys wish to ‘transition’ into being girls themselves we praise them for it, we celebrate it. Feminine primacy consolidates power by replicating itself in men.

The primary reason I went to the effort of writing the Red Pill Parenting series was to help men stave off the total, ethnocidal-like destruction of any semblance of conventional masculinity by men like Powell bent on replacing it with ‘perfected’, male-embodied femininity. The problem isn’t one of boys adopting toxic masculinity, it’s the institutionalized gender-loathing re-education that Powell so desperately endorses. Neofemininity will be the realm of boys and men in tomorrow’s idealism.

567 comments

  1. Universities as reeducation camps for men. The whole scenario with Powell was incredibly creepy and could have been played out in Korea in 1952. Powell is merely a latter day Commissar for the FI. That he is an African American man I is I suppose to give him street cred in the eyes of the feminists and their fellow travelers. Of course if he was just a regular black guy the FI would have no use for him. They’d think he was just a potential Ray Rice waiting to explode. We can sadly however only expect more of this in the future as the enemy grows increasingly desperate and arrogant. This is one of the reasons why I try to highlight for my sons the attractions of a trade over college. This too is Red Pill parenting. Frankly, In spite of a red pill parent’s best efforts you will have a hard time countering what they are taught by like Powell those who pretend to intellectualism in the Ivory Tower. Christian parents have seen their children disabused of their faith by this ilk for decades now. We can expect no less. Higher education is now the almost exclusive province of the kookiest elements of the Left. Let you children enter those gates at their peril.

  2. “I learned early on the rite-of-passage of seeing girls as sexual objects, as playthings, as anything except my equal. I fought because boys were taught to fight, be rough, antagonistic, to never show weakness, not even to cry, at least not in public. I digested every kind of pop cultural icon one could name, on television, in movies, in books, in my beloved hip-hop culture, who represented the mighty male figure that armies of us were instructed we must become.”

    Where does this shit come from? I’m heading into my late 30s and even I got the exact opposite of this while growing up. The only messages I gleaned from the culture were telling me that women were equals, that masculinity was a farce or a problem that needed to be corrected, that women wanted the The One Good man and that I should aspire to be that man, because no other guy could be expected to. These are the only messages I got. If there were others, I didn’t pick up on them.

    It was precisely these gynocentric messages that led to all my problems with women in my personal life. To the point where it felt as if I’d been lied to from birth about what women wanted and expected of me. I never thought of women as objects, but as the judge and jury of my identity and existence. And so far as I can tell, that is how almost all blue pill men think about women currently and this is precisely why they all think they’re saving women from the masculine patriarchal boogeyman. What the fuck is this guy talking about?

  3. Divided line,

    He’s a lying sack of shit. He was raised the same way both you and I and most every other man in our age range was raised…to defer to women. To make women the center of our world. Equalism. To hand over our power. To hand over our masculinity.

    They don’t even have to shame men anymore, we do it for them. Either we shame ourselves or traitorous men like Powell do it for them.

    If they ever line up the masculine men for execution…I’ll go first, with my head held high.

    Fuck the FI. Is that all they got?

  4. The obvious parallel is with the recent school class billboard: “What I hate about being a boy.”

    Also cannot stress enough that Cis-Male-Encumbered Citizen Instructor Powell had no father figure to speak of. And therefore is not qualified to instruct men on masculinity, about which he has no knowledge. Who better to do the re-education than an “innocent” who has been uncorrupted by the old evil culture? Where have we seen this before? Year Zero anyone?

    So who was “instructing” him to be Macho Slap-A-Ho Dude? Note the passive voice as he states this. The “instructing” had to be the voice in his head, his fantasy elaboration of his male self. As encouraged by the single mom who didn’t need no man telling her how to raise her kid, she could tell him all about men just fine. Certainly not the culture, which was well on the way to where we are now. I’ve been hearing “the best man should be more of a woman” since at least 1979, before Citizen Instructor Powell was a gleam in the eye of his mom’s turkey-baster.

    Citizen Instructor Powell can take a victory lap. As I’ve reported, his evangelist message has seeped into the class of high school teenage boys I am seeing now, and it looks like they’re representative samples. They’ve learned their lesson not to oppress women by putting them under pressure with “unwanted” advances to like, date. Intersexual action is done in groups of friends who do things as a group. Including school dances, proms, parties, going to events/shows, etc. There is very little “dating” as we know it. Though partly the fear of approaching and dating comes from a newly amplified fear of rejection, more intense than any of us ever knew. Remember these teens today are all helicoptered-tended sensitive souls. Anyone gets any negativity and it’s time to pop a Prozac and head for a safe space for a teddy bear and a cookie.

    There will be exceptions, of course. Alphas gonna Alpha. Frat boys and football heroes will do fine, and do not lack for DTF girls even now

  5. @Divided Line

    Where does this shit come from? I’m heading into my late 30s and even I got the exact opposite of this while growing up.

    ^Fucking this.

    It’s a dude that got a one aspect of masculinity wrong (he became abusive) because (surprise, surprise!) a single mom didn’t know how to raise him properly as a man, so he decided to throw the baby out with the bath water and supplicate to women to compensate.

    He is the product of exactly what he’s trying to advocate for. He’s actively sowing the seeds of producing other men like him.

  6. I’ll make two simple observations.

    He says absolutely nothing about his own father or how his absence might have contributed to his struggles understanding masculinity or manhood. It’s incredible that he doesn’t even mention why his father wasn’t present in his life.

    The words “dad” and “father” are not used one in the entire article, which is about teaching boys about real manhood. It’s as though in his world there is no such thing as a father.

    One has to wonder if this noticeable omission was intentional or merely a subconscious part of his social conditioning in which fathers are unnecessary or even unwanted parties to the rearing of boys.

    Whatever the reason, at some point the omission will be hard for even Blue Pill men to ignore.

  7. Also, this is the first I’ve heard of Bruce Jenner being woman of the yaer for glamour rag.

    Says a lot about your wife too rollo, that she said Bruce and not Caitlyn.

  8. If a majority of boys actually want to be girls (as per Mrs. Tomassi), to me that is a confirmation of overall misandry in society.

    I read recently (I think in TRP reddit) a report from a feminist who went undercover as a man also ended up depressed and concluding she was lucky to be female.

    The proof is in the pudding.

  9. You will never read deep soul searching testimonials like this from women who look to redefine femininity in ways that better accommodate the emotional health of men.

    Great point. We should form a 501(c) and put shit like this on billboards. Start our own propaganda campaign.

  10. Bruce is and will always be a man, unless they figured out how to remove that pesky Y chromosome. Sure he can get all his man bits removed, and even have lady parts added. Still has that Adam’s apple though!

  11. @Sun: Neofemininity: helping men by making them redundant. Haha!

    How about on the biological level:

    Neofemininity: helping sperm cells spoon the egg and buy it dinner before entering.
    Neofemininity: helping sperm cells bend over so the egg can stick it up the patriarchy’s ass instead

    lol!

  12. Man.

    Depressing.

    That article is hard to understand.

    Why is it that when we want to talk about defining men, we have to start with rape in college as the point of departure? Women go out get drunk, get fucked willingly, regret it, cry rape.

    Also just saw this:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/style-blog/wp/2015/10/22/what-happened-to-whoopi-goldberg/

    A lot of the barbs directed to Whoopi seems to be for nothing else if the fact that she seems to be defending “rapists.”

  13. Why is there such a strong thrust to pussify men, especially the white man? Why? I don’t think this is just FI. I am afraid there is more than meets the eye.

  14. What funny is that in my blue pill nice guy days, I was trying to be different from masculine men and attract women through my “not being like those other guys”

    When in actuality, being masculine IS being different from all those other guys. Lol

  15. Why is there such a strong thrust to pussify men, especially the white man? Why? I don’t think this is just FI. I am afraid there is more than meets the eye.

    Yes, for male thinking it is so much it looks like some evil masterplan. But I think it’s just what happens when women do and no one stops them. The FI does it on societal level.

  16. Lacking male role models they ape masculinity and as a result have no respect for it. This makes it easier to caricature it, as they are the manifestation of those caricatures.

    What they never discovered was comfortable, natural masculinity. Rather than just being masculine they were always posing as what the THOUGHT was masculine. Pointing out their own fraud isn’t a virtue.

  17. “When in actuality, being masculine IS being different from all those other guys.”

    I know. My boys are going to be swimming in pussy. I’m a bit worried that I’ll be on my death bed by the time they decide to have kids. haha.

  18. You will never read deep soul searching testimonials like this from women who look to redefine femininity in ways that better accommodate the emotional health of men.

    I have pointing this out to anyone with ears for about 10 years. And always, looks of bewilderment.

    Great article. Thanks.

  19. Why is there such thrust to pussify men? It’s really pretty simple-to grow the government bigger and bigger and bigger. Women always vote for more gov’t so if you pussify men they vote for more gov’t and liberals have more and more control and citizens ie men have less and less rights. The worst thing to happen to this country was allowing women to vote.

  20. This post is hard to stomach.

    This is the crux of Powell’s misinformation. The ideal ‘masculinity’ in Powell’s estimate isn’t one of rugged individualism, but rather one that is more feminine-corrected; one in which a believes that society has progressed to a point where his personal vulnerabilities and emotionalism will not only be appreciated, but a source of intersexual attraction.

    Just, gross… probably very accurate, but it just disgusts me to think that. It should actually disgust anyone.

    There’s a friend I have who thinks much like Powell does. He honestly believes that masculinity is now toxic and must be stamped out. He’s married and his wife just got herself a degree, she can now earn more than he does with better job security. I met them through a mutual female friend much the same situation, better degree, better job security, married to a man who has worked for the county library so long he could now retire (literally) and become a house-husband. He is actually contemplating this. His days at that point would consist of youtube, video games, and house cleaning and cooking.

    You didn’t want to keep that lunch down did you?

  21. I recently finished reading “The Way of Men” by Jack Donovan.
    In one of its chapters Jack makes a comparison between Chimpanzees and Bonobos social structure. Chimps are patriarchal, while Bonobos are matriarchal. Chimps live in areas where there is some scarcity in food, there are more conflicts between males, but they cover greater areas compared to the Bonobos, who live in smaller areas with greater/easier access to food. They spend much more time having sex and and doing recreational activities. They can afford to that since the resources are easily accessible.

    Having these two examples in mind I ask the question. Can we truly afford to become a matriarchal society where the FI is the default frame for everyone?

    Not if we still want to progress as a society, or at least maintain the current level of development. The US society was built and functions on male characteristics, such as competition and expansion. If we try to run our society using primarily female characteristics(such as PC) we’re going to lead this country into a cliff. It’s like trying to use gas on car that runs on diesel. We’ve forced ourselves onto nature in order to provide resources. So a society that is not competitive and expansionist will not survive using feminine nature as its default frame!

  22. This douche is just another cultural marxist. These assholes have circumvented the greatest philosophies of mankind (individual rights, consent of the governed, etc) and the constitutions produced by said philosophies. In its place they have given us big brother, thought police, hate is love, propaganda and sundry evils.
    Fuck em all. May they die a miserable death and may the vultures pluck out their eyes whilst still alive.
    That may seem harsh. Consider this: if rousseau, voltaire, thomas paine, ben franklin, george washington and all the other GREAT MEN too numerous to mention were alive today what would they say? I’m guessing: sic tyrannus semper would be their response.
    Mangina powell is a tool for an ideology that is seeking to destroy 3000 years of evolution and civilization. He’s a cunt.
    Rant over.
    Anecdote: I grew up in a high crime area during the 70’s and 80’s. Cops worked solo. They didnt sweat the little stuff. Can you imagine half the cops now working solo? I cant. I’m not even tall and I look down to them. Equality: turning reality on its head since the suffragettes. apples are not oranges.

  23. So much feminist writing nowadays is about projecting female nature onto men and thinking how they act is just an act… Obviously it won’t make male nature go away, but it can fool men into thinking they’re defective and evil.

    I wonder if this isn’t just another way for modern priesthood class to gain power and money, since they are constantly needed to pour resources and “expertise” at this unsolvable “problem”.

  24. Rollo: Do you have any idea when the audio from the Man In Demand Conference would be available?

  25. I’m starting to believe the FI isn’t just a one-time viewpoint of a few social leaders and women ; rather its a total social shift of magnetic polarity from a male-centric world to a female centric one.

    The realization hit when I watched 1968’s Bullitt yesterday, and noticed that McQueens girlfriend behaved in ways I’ve seen no young woman behave today. Then there’s the actual plot; men are the directors and actors of the events from start to finish.

    Then , earlier today I wound up in a showing of “The Intern”. We had a training conference in the city followed by an ” optional” movie that all the managers and bosses encouraged us peons to attend. Since I like promotions I sucked it up and went.

    Total 180* inversion of roles. DeNiro, Mister “30 seconds if the Heats Around The Corner” literally says to Anne Hathaway ‘ I dont mean to be the feminist between us, but…’

    In the modern world, women are the actors and men are the supporting cast. Masculinity is defined as what women want today, because there is no more room for real Masculinity anymore then open female hypergamy was tolerated in 1960s America.

    The women are the social movers and shakers of events, and the men are now the hangers on .Women are the directors whether they’re happy or not, and men are socially raised to support female interests ahead of their own…whether they are happy to or not.

    Us unplugged guys are like The Time Traveller in the dystopic world of the Elois and Morlocks. To the participants its normal ,business as usual to exhalt the Feminine in all things and at all times . To the Time Traveller its all madness.

    Just like the Time Traveller ,we unplugged guys are from a different era. What we consider ‘redpill’ principles is just how men were naturally in 1960s America.

    Makes me shudder for where we’ll be in 40 years. Can’t wait to see the femnazi telescreens.

  26. Rollo-

    Having been similarly steeped in these same intellectual toxins, and at one time actually even doing the “professing the FI” bit, why did it take so little to turn me?

    I will never forget once reading the statement “American women have priced themselves out of the market”. And the world suddenly righted itself. And then I found Roissy. My red pill realignment took, like, a week. The knowledge and wisdom have taken much longer of course.

    The only thing I can think is that even in my bluest of beta blue-pill delusion, I have one principle I would never violate: I will never marry a woman that would not have dated me in my 20s.” I even felt guilty for thinking it.

  27. @Rollo

    I have been seeking egalitarian-complentarianism my whole life (the idea that you can find a partner for which their is mutual appreciation and respect for your partner’s strengths and weaknesses, a good many of which will naturally derive from the manhood or the womanhood, but with a relationship approach based on equal partnership). Had been married for over 20 years, divorced 10 years ago, other sexual relationships before and after marriage. So far I haven’t found this egalitarian-complentarianism in any of these relationships I have had. I’m 56 now and am without a partner for awhile now, deliberately (until I understand this better). I have assumed that perhaps the problem has been that I wasn’t fully appreciating (and therefore not fully respecting) the woman’s natural strengths and weaknesses, though I have always tried to do this I think. Though I have assumed I should probably look there for the answer (like perhaps I was and am just blind to something because of my male outlook), the quest has never been satisfying at all. No headway. It is like going around and around in circles. I don’t ever get anywhere. I come back to the same place each time – jaded and confused.

    I have exposed myself to redpill writing for close to 2 years now. I see in real life that the applied concepts have much pragmatic value. Fully taking the redpill means I have to finally give up on the egalitarian component of the egalitarian-complimentarian ideal right? There is no such thing – right?

    Using the redpill concepts over the last 2 years, in my mind’s-eye I have tried to reconcile the redpill concept and the egalitarian-complentarianism concept, looking for a work around that would allow both to be true. Trying all kinds of work around methods I have recently concluded that the only stone left unturned, that might allow headway, is to define the deep-seated emotive disposition of healthy man, so as to find the female correspondent, so I could finally see what I have been missing. After much inner reflection I have concluded that the way I could best define the emotive disposition of healthy man would be the feeling of exuberant aggression (an aggressive attitude, realizing and embracing an inner potential for violence, to be used very judiciously more so as a storehouse of emotive power, as a potential, that provides confidence in my ability to prevail in the face of changing circumstances in such a way that will allow me to act in ways congruent with my abstract convictions around personal integrity). The feeling of “exuberant aggression” in more succinct terms. It is that feeling in a man that requires a foil or a frontier to act upon.

    So what is the corresponding emotive disposition of the healthy female? I have been thinking that, putting the question this way, will allow me to see something mystical about the female. I have been hunting for the answer, reading, talking to a lot of people (both women and men). No luck with anything mystical. No luck with any answers at all that seem to fit in anyway, except Chateau Heartiste recently suggesting – “passionate deference”.

    So I have been thinking about that alot. The idea of passionate deference defeats the hope for the egalitarian doesn’t it? There is no deep psychic magic beyond the obvious redpill truths – is there?

    So for one last effort to resuscitate my hope for the egalitarian, I have recently been pressing hard on my long-held observation (an observation that has been continually reinforced my whole life) that women have a greater tendency than men to behave as if their own personal feelings are of primary importance in any circumstance. My observation has been that men are also very much subject to this but less so, group vs. group (even though there is large individual differences for this propensity within men as a whole and women as a whole). So why this difference? Can I find the seeds of some sort of mystical “kindness for all” or some other such virtue, for womankind, within the observation that they have a greater propensity for narcissism? My most recent inquires with people have left me with the impression that there is no higher virtue hidden with the female narcissistic bent. Instead perhaps I have been somewhat naive to the degree that such actually blinds women to an appreciation for the greater good. There really does seem to be a greater difficulty among womankind for appreciating the bigger picture, the amalgamation of the many perspectives. How can “kindness for all” or some other altruistic virtue exist within the disinclination for the appreciation of the many perspectives? There is no such thing as the wise altruistic kindness I was hoping for among womankind – is there?

    So the egalitarian is impossible isn’t it? Chateau Heartiste is right – the healthy man/woman relationship is one that comprises passionate deference to the man’s worldview, on the woman’s part – right? Deference to the man, not egalitarian.

    Wholly swallowing the redpill means completely giving up on any hope that the egalitarian can occur within a relationship with a woman – right? When you believe that is occurring, you are fooling yourself – right? When you believe that the woman is actually behaving duplicitously with you and is not returning the mutual level of appreciation and respect – is she? In this eventuality she is actually putting herself above you and lying about it – right?

    Jaded. Again. Going around and around in circles. Again. Women are men’s equeals, men’s match, with respect to the degree of duplicitousness they can manage – right? No kindness to match the man’s drive for outward mastery, for penetrating reality- right? It’s the woman’s mastery in the dark arts that is the match for the type of mastery displayed by men – right? The dark arts camouflaged as kindness – right? That is dark art indeed.

    Jaded. That is what wholly taking the redpill is? To be jaded and to abide by that?

  28. I never did want to open that Slate article….then I did…didn’t even read, just skimmed through the pics….HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!
    We as men need to be very vigilant, extremely…

    I’ve been going through Nietzsche’s & Schopenhauer’s writings…my awareness increases concerning the wisdom of old.

    God save the woman who tries to put my children, boys &/or girls through this….heaven help you!

  29. @IAS

    > bride certificate of purity

    an overweight near-wall wallard, a center in every shot narcissist, surrounded by high consumptive luxury, has a degree of self-anointed purity. ’cause that means something… or not.

    an empty gesture, that even if factually valid, fails to negate the rest. purity from a 90 year old is categorically irrelevant.

  30. @SD
    “and men are socially raised to support female interests ahead of their own…”

    Damn that’s familiar

    @Yollo Comanche
    Working an getting Christian my audio already sent to Sam. Don’t have iTunes on computer and recorded with iPhone. Will make a point to get done on Sunday.

    @Wild Man
    Holy hell your on to something.

    Men and the modern lack of… Ect

    It’s Ours
    there is always that space there
    just before they get to us
    that space
    that fine relaxer
    the breather
    while say
    flopping on a bed
    thinking of nothing
    or say
    pouring a glass of water from the
    spigot
    while entranced by
    nothing

    that
    gentle pure
    space

    it’s worth

    centuries of
    existence

    say

    just to scratch your neck
    while looking out the window at
    a bare branch

    that space
    there
    before they get to us
    ensures
    that
    when they do
    they won’t
    get it all

    ever.

    by Charles Bukowski

    Some of this
    http://contemporarythinkers.org/harvey-mansfield/essay/contradiction-rules-feminism/

    With a little this
    http://contemporarythinkers.org/harvey-mansfield/essay/ideas-renewing-american-prosperity-rediscover-mens-womens-differences/

  31. Side note:
    Those poor college guys forced to hear Powell’s drivel should have asked about his dad. You know the obviously absent one.
    And did Powell really think he was qualified to teach masculinity since he was only taught by his MOM!

    This is getting ridiculous Powell walks into college talks to young men and compares classic male traits immediately to his Single Mom. The mind boggles as to how Powell can think he is in any way competent to make such comparisons. I mean after all if he had a father around he could make the comparisons directly no?

    ————–

    It’s scary really. I have wondered about what happened to France in the early stages of World War II. How could such a once strong country be so pathetic. And then I hear that two women “pass” Army Ranger school.

    And the Generals are all wondering why they now can’t find male recruits to fill Ranger class slots. Could it be that a Ranger tab does not carry the same meaning now??? nah women “passing” the hardest physical training in the Army does not detract from it’s difficulty. Heck it’s great that women can pass that training now right? I mean warfare is just a social justice game now right?

    Rollo I know you have long said that CH is over the top and to0 racial and too misogynistic. But now after seeing the later years of this administration, I have to say the time for half measures has passed.

    It is time to start calmly stating the truths
    ——————————————————–
    Affirmative Action sentiments are not the way to select leaders.
    ALL of the countries on the rise in the world stage are run by MEN (Russia, China, Iran, …coincidence? I think not)
    Many of the countries on the down swing are run by women (Germany, Argentina, Brazil, now Canada -kinda and soon Poland)
    If diversity is working so well why aren’t we seeing MORE economic opportunity given the huge numbers of diversity imported under Obama?
    If socialism is the way to organize society why does it not work out better in practice?

    and it goes on and on. I don’t want to turn women into Handmaids and start calling myself commander … But I am damn close guys.
    It’s time to quit being eunuchs.

  32. @jack on

    When you put it that way, I suppose I had a similar experience. When I found the red pill, there was very little resistance to it. I mean, there was a lot of emotional shit that accompanied it, and some attempts at bargaining. And learning how to apply it effectively took even longer – still a work in progress 😉

    But I remember reading just a few articles here, and my entire blue pill frame came crashing down. I read ‘Hypergamy doesn’t care’ and was in a state of grief, but I didn’t try to resist it.

    I think there’s probably a lot of background things that have to happen before a person can acccept the red pill. Once they have those, however, the shift happens quickly and effortlessly. It’s kind of like ‘enlightenment,’ or any paradigm shift. Once the practitioner is ready, it simply happens spontaneously. Whereas a lot of men, if they encounter the red pill, they resist it mightily. That’s where a lot of anti-red pill sites and rhetoric come from – most men can’t hack it.

  33. @Forge

    I guess I was willing to let go of anything. I had no ego investment in blue pill. I just didn’t know there was anything else. I thought I was completely alone in how I could not make sense of women.

  34. @Forge

    It’s definitely a combination of having had the experience to show you the dots and being able to be uncompromisingly ruthless in your own self improvement, caring only about the results and little about the process or your own ego. From there, RP philosophy just connects the dots and tells you to not fear doing what the picture you see tells you to do.

    If you lack either of those two prerequisites, you’ll never take the first step. Having both doesn’t guarantee you’ll succeed (as I’m finding), but lacking either one guarantees you’ll fail to even start.

  35. Long time reader, first time commenter.
    This is what happens when a person has no religion.
    What is a man?
    In Islam a being created by Allah to solely worship him.
    Everything else is just empty talk.
    All that matters in life and that we are sure of is that we are going to die.
    Everything else is just a waste of time.
    Putting a woman or someone else before Allah is shir. irreligious.

  36. Rollo, you and your readers, have you looked into Islam?
    All i see is you are trying to cure one aspect of a larger disease.

  37. In Islam a being created by Allah to solely worship him.

    That is an interesting point because it goes to the core use of religion: To give a man something he can submit to so he doesn’t submit to a women. It seems many have in inert desire or need to submit to something. And if we say “to love something” (which in my view is the same thing), we can understand that need or desire better.

    I don’t know how Islam sees it in detail, but in Christianity the love of self is associated with the Devil. It is know some self-love is necessary but it shall not be greater than the love of God and thou shall love the other like yourself. But never put yourself first.

    The RedPill and Rollo’s point of the Mental Point of Origin teach something different. By making yourself your Mental Point of Origin and submitting only to your enlightened self-interest, you get frame, you are the god of your world. It needs strength, yes. Way more than submitting, even to some God. But from a rational thinking, one’s own existence is even the only thing you can be sure is real. Better develop the strength to live it.

  38. Rollo, you and your readers, have you looked into Islam?

    several of our readers, such as emily, are looking into religion for us, and we are all praying they find Islam on their red pilgrimage

  39. @Wais – I could be polite, but I just don’t feel like it. Take your premodern, supremacist, primitive religion – Allah, the Koran and the Sharia – and shove it up your ass.

    Just where in the fuck do you think you are? Have I considered Islam? Yeah, and I shit on it. Move along fucktard, move along.

  40. @lh

    Thus, we come to why Religion serves such a crucial social role. It takes mental strength of self to look around at a scary, uncertain world and realize that in relying on oneself means accepting you won’t know all the answers, and that purpose is defined by you.

    I’d love to say everyone has the ability to be so independently minded. My experience says otherwise.
    Most people, male and female, need some external structure to derive meaning for themselves and their lives. The prospect of independent contemplation is scary, and there’s science to support the notion that advanced cognitive thinking for people can be profoundly uncomfortable . Thus the man wakes up and puts himself into his work, while the woman wakes up and defines herself by her social identity as a mom, wife, etc.

    Religion ably serves the same role for both genders. Regardless of the specifics like God, Gods, Allah, Jehovah, etc religion serves as a common point of purpose for men seeking meaningful work and women seeking meaningful social identity. It also soothes the uncertain soul ,as any troubling questions about life can be handwaved by the catchall phrase “Gods Will”.

    No painful contemplation, no deep thought necessary.

  41. The Powell article is galling on so many levels. H/T to SD and Bitchin’ Bob for some great comments. A few thoughts:

    Notice what is presented to us as “masculine” – depraved, hood-rat ghetto culture. Fatherless family, and a criminal subculture portrayed as “normal”. While I criticize racists here, don’t confuse me with someone who doesn’t know what is what. It’s also interesting to note that this culture already is a matriarchy, men have been stripped of all dignity in that society long ago. If you actually look at it carefully, the primitive and crass masculinity aped by thugs can be considered an inchoate scream from a masculinity so oppressed warped from having no legitimate expression.

    My background is Irish. Our history can be described as existing under the jackboot of the English for 800 or so years. Men in this Irish world were often unable to provide adequately for their families. Many men became dissolute drunks in that setting and all men had the right to get drunk out of their gourds regularly to escape the droning indignity they lived inside of 24/7, 365. It was hard for Irish to accumulate wealth of any sort and be the masters of their own destiny for so long that being hopeless and cynical became a way of life.

    Many such people emigrated to the south, and a particular example is found in stretches of the Appalachians. This self-loathing, anti-authoritarian oppositional and cynical culture degrades over time, and is not that different from black ghetto culture.

    Men need to be able to lead families. Men need to be in a culture that teaches them to be successful and skillful and to develop mastery in something, in anything. Powell grew up inside a family system in which women controlled so much that is important – the home, the family, the money. One of the things most white people don’t know is how pathetic “gangsta life” really is. A sociologist studied this not too long ago and he found that the average midlevel drug dealer in the ‘hood lived with his mom or grandmother and made less than 15k per year. “Thug life” as portrayed in the popular culture is absurd, the reality is poverty, depradation and social chaos.

    But here’s the thing. At least thugs have the balls to give the finger to the entire game. At least some dumb redneck inbred living in the backwoods of Kentucky, pumping out crank from a lab has the good sense to not buy into “the system” that defangs and neuters men and all things masculine in our society today.

    Do you guys really get how deep the shit is that we are in? Ask yourself, how does society get here? It’s not accidental, it’s the consequence of the Gramscian counter-hegemony run amok. The reason the intensity and depth of the insanity is increasing is because the takeover of our institutions is complete now. Social Justice-Progressive-Marxist ideology reigns supreme in virtually ever institution of society and this was done purposefully by power-mad revolutionaries like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and the rest of these scumbags. They have won.

    Powell talks about “re-educating boys” – we already have re-education camps for boys. They are called elementary schools.

    Fuck this society. Fuck this country. Fuck women who’ve run amok and don’t even bother to understand the power and majesty of what they are wrecking by being willing dupes of leftist maniacs. This is why I’m no longer a gentleman. This why I’d never get married again. This is why I’m like “whatever” to my daughter’s bullshit – I’ve got he message this cultures is sending, I’ve SPIT THE BIT OUT and am never putting it back in my mouth.

    I serve nobody. My kid is grown and an ungrateful bitch, check – I’m out. This country? A fucking joke, by serving it I’m only perpetuating injustice and depravity. Women in general – you are manipulable quite easily and I can get what I want out of you quite readily without being a nice guy, in fact it works so much better now that I’ve unleashed my true masculine energy. All women react better to the anti-niceguy.

    Fuck this society, let it burn and be wiped away. I say we vote in every leftist we can, cheat on our taxes so we pay next to nothing, stop participating in every civic institution and form RP-male only enclaves where we collectively prepare for the coming collapse and social upheaval that is most surely just around the corner. We will always be a tiny minority but if we act together, we may be able to protect ourselves. Alone, we are just witnesses to all this left in isolated bubbles that are getting smaller all the time.

    What else is there? Seriously?

  42. ” It’s also interesting to note that this culture already is a matriarchy, men have been stripped of all dignity in that society long ago. ”

    Important point.

    Detroit, Newark, Camden, Chicago South Side, etc. are messed up because they are matriarchies. Matriarchy is the root, voting Democrat or Liberal is not the root.

  43. @jack
    “I will never forget once reading the statement “American women have priced themselves out of the market”. And the world suddenly righted itself. And then I found Roissy. My red pill realignment took, like, a week. The knowledge and wisdom have taken much longer of course.”

    Ditto dude. Mine took a bit longer than a week but unless you’re blind once your eyes begin to open yo can’t go back, otherwise I truly believe you will go insane.

    I can’t write it enough, I am so damn grateful for this blog. The insight, support and strength found here is a thing to behold. This is my “religion,” sans prophets, gods and saints. Though in jest we could annoint Rollo as a saint.

    Scribbler, man will never find a deep spiritual satisfaction from social constructs of government or society in general. My belief is that it comes from a more holistic sense of Frame. The nature of humans isn’t hive like the Borg, it’s that of the individual, just as we die solo.

    Some societies might be more conducive to freedom and make life better for men/mankind, but in the end it’s man’s Frame that defines what he is and how his joy is derived and celebrated. Living with Red Pill awareness is not always pleasant. Practicing it is even less pleasant, but as one continues to let the pill’s medicine course through your entire being the eyes become more open and that knowledge brings wisdom. That wisdom can bring solace to know that even in fucked up cultures and societies man can live with dignity and have self respect.

    I’m a newbie and don’t mean to be preachy, maybe I’m still feeling “high” from swallowing the Red Pill. While I feel “high” at times it’s also really fucking challenging dealing with my children who have no clue what I’m going through or trying to do. Even if it takes what remains of my life to fix my Frame and learn to live a life of dignity and self-respect I’ll take this any day over the Blue Pill I used to overdose on. I’ve alienated my son, confused the living shit out of my daughter and have lived through a few weeks of shitty turmoil, but in the cool morning of this Autumn when I sit outside with my dog and the sunrise in quiet reflection on what I read here and my new choices I know I’m doing the right thing.

    I can’t lead a jaded life and will never expect to gain happiness or satisfaction from our messed up government, society or culture or women. Understanding more everyday of what All This Is brings such a powerful sense of awareness that it evokes a joy in me that is profound.

    It’s a testament of good will and hope that you men take the time and energy to write and share knowledge to help others. If I ever meet Rollo in person I’m going to shake that motherfuckers hand really hard while I look him straight in the eye and say thanks dude, you helped save my life.

  44. @Scribbleberg

    Foundationally, the default family unit for humans would seem to be a matrilineal clan. I use the word “seem” because theres little science on the subject and our modern scientific establishment wouldn’t profit much from publishing the truth if it disagreed with feminism.

    In a matrilineal system, based on what ive learned about modern day matriarchies like the Mosuo , women orchestrate the social decisions while men are merely appliances for those decisions. Women control the property and resources, while men administer and do the drudge work.

    Insofar as sex goes , women fuck who they want with no strings. The babies are raised by her male and female relatives more or less communally with no father being present-and in fact some cultures don’t even have a word for it.

    Those of you from the ghetto are probably having flashbacks right now reading this. We are, in Western civilization terms,simply de-evolving back to that matrilineal state.

    Which poses at least one good thing: we no longer have the social mandate to give a damn about society. That may seem defeatist or crass, but think about it. Women not only don’t care about male perspectives , they actively mock and ridicule the male viewpoint. I imagine a Mosuo man would be laughed out of the clan if he tried to take an active role in his kids’ life….just like an American man would be via a divorce court.

    Based on those examples, I’d say we are in for financial regulations forcing male controlled property and personal rights to be dependent on women. Want to buy a nice car as a bachelor? Illegal without signed permission from wifey/mom/ aunt. Earn more then 15k per annum as a single man? Pay 60% personal income tax. Own real estate? Sell it to a female or pay horrendous property assessment taxes. On and on it’ll go, until like the Mosuo (as one example, there are others) well be living in state mandated poverty as the women hang out in mansions.

    It’s a woman’s world now and is likely to stay that way for the forseeable future. I’m perfectly OK with letting the enlightened, ego-less, empowered women run the show. I even let a few of them blow me periodically, just to show that there’s no hard feelings.

  45. @Roused

    “I’m a newbie and don’t mean to be preachy, maybe I’m still feeling “high” from swallowing the Red Pill. While I feel “high” at times it’s also really fucking challenging dealing with my children who have no clue what I’m going through or trying to do. Even if it takes what remains of my life to fix my Frame and learn to live a life of dignity and self-respect I’ll take this any day over the Blue Pill I used to overdose on. I’ve alienated my son, confused the living shit out of my daughter and have lived through a few weeks of shitty turmoil, but in the cool morning of this Autumn when I sit outside with my dog and the sunrise in quiet reflection on what I read here and my new choices I know I’m doing the right thing.”

    Just a word of caution in assimilating Red Pill Awareness and learning game. And this includes “Dad Game”.

    It takes time. Be patient.

    And it is extremely difficult to do what you have to do–or what you should have done from an earlier stage–which is demonstrate not explicate. Since most including your children don’t just get it, you will confuse them more than lead them by over explaining. A maxim of “married red pill” is that it takes a month for every year you were married to assimilate red pill awareness. So don’t jump the gun and try too much Dad game all at once, lest you be playing with dynamite. Even if you don’t play with dynamite, be aware you will still be walking through a minefield. And you won’t have a map of where the mines are.

    Your old blue pill overdosing is no different than an addiction. So don’t fail to continue moving on with other dopamine inputs to overcome the rut you used to keep digging deeper in your limbic system. Have other inputs such as adventures, “peak experiences”, collegiality with other men, pursuit of women that are feminine and give you energy, passions and hobbies, and reading non-fiction for intellectual self improvement.

    Keep moving in that direction, but don’t blurt out your new-found awareness to all that are “supposed” to listen to you.

  46. I also clicked the picture. Slightly disturbing.

    Personally, I’m bothered about make-up and high heels being used regardless of gender, but I think most RP guys probably like that stuff.

    Actually I think both make-up and heels historically were used by males as well (high heels I think even started being used exclusively by males but I don’t know for sure).

  47. @SD – I get what you are saying but you miss a couple of crucial things from my POV:

    – I’m not Mosuo. What western civilization and WASP values gave rise to over the past 500 years are nothing short of extraordinary in the history of human civilization. The Enlightenment generated an entirely new direction for human development. It’s better than other cultures, period.

    – Women are incompetent as leaders and managers in many real respects. Just start with the fact (studied, and I can’t find the cite – but googling should confirm what I’m saying) that women have much higher “ingroup prefernces” than men. In fact, the research indicates that men have almost imperceptible ingroup preferences for men over women in important decisions. But women are the opposite, they consistently are revealed to behave with a positive bias towards other women, whether in hiring or voting, or who they do business with.

    This leads them to value social outcomes more than objective measures of performance and in this way, they can oftentimes be very ineffective leaders. Fyi, public companies that have female board members see increasing declines in returns as the proportion of females increase at the the board level.

    They also work off signaling much more than men do, who temper their baser instincts with rationality because rationality works in the physical, real world where men evolved hunting and farming and building etc. Women pay far too much attention to how they feel and not enough to the effects of their actions in the real world.

    Nowhere is this more evident than in the political-economic mind of the modern women. As I’ve mentioned here before, Bryan Caplan of GMU studied women’s understanding of basic economics and the data (rarely collected or discussed) is damning. Adult women demonstrate the understanding of basic economics that a teen boy possesses and THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF ECONOMICS DECREASES AS THEIR LEVEL OF EDUCATION INCREASES. That’s due to their studying humanities where economic education is virtually absent.

    Do it, go ask an SJW, What is money? Ask them to explain free markets, I dare you, the incomprehensible babble that will fall out of their mouths is laughable.

    This is why they fall for socialism/marxism – it appeals to a simplistic mind seeking easy answers. Anita Sarkeesian demonstrated this level of pseudo-intellectuality at a talk she gave on some stage. She talked about the revelatory nature “seeing the world in terms of systems”, and of course she is an out and out Marxist, openly states it. The fact that the world is really large, and humans and social order is really quite diverse and evolves from the bottom up as well as top down seems to evade her. She instead falls for what Hayek called “the fatal conceit” of the economic planner.

    This mass dopeyness is why the hard left is winning. I recently watched my niece graduate from a top liberal arts school, with a major in spanish and a minor in political science. I asked her what economics courses she had taken and she answered, “None.” She’s out to change the world and is a rabidl sjw and leftist – and doesn’t even understand how and why free markets work. She’s not even curious either.

    Such dummies are why we have 18 trillion on the books in debt and a huge amount more off the books, just at the federal govt level. They cannot balance their short term wants against longer term concerns – all things that men had to learn to be good at over long periods of human history. Males can succumb to such idiocy too, but not in the main. For women, this kind of dimwitted activism are the norm, the rule rather than the exception.

    Socialism – a vision of society that presumes enlightened geniuses running things for us dummies – only gains sway in the West and in the U.S. as women become empowered dramatically. Women vote for the likes of Obama in large numbers. Even worse, their economic empowerment also mirrors the growth of debt, personal and governmental across U.S. society.

    My point? Women running the world is a disaster, and is why we are headed to ruin. I mean, it’s not a coincidence that women are overtaking our universities while our public intellectual discourse and cultural life is cheapened, right? I mean, how many times am I supposed to listen to say the doggerel of Maya Angelou or try to read the novels of David Sedaris and not notice it’s garbage? How often am I supposed to listen to Hillary Clinton and not think, she’s a flipping plastic, vile, craven human being with little depth or center. She’s an appetite, not a fully realized human being. Yet she’s presented as the “smartest woman in America”.

    She doesn’t even have to actually answer questions or deal with facts now. Just listen carefully to the Bengazi hearings from Thursday. The fact that she didn’t deal with 600+ security improvement requests, she hasn’t been held to account. Her obvious lying about the motivation for the attack, she’s just given a pass. It reveals she didn’t disclose all her official email. In the first place, it exposed that she was using a private email server – only after the State Dept had slow rolled FOIA requests from the public and congeressional subpoenas for 3 years.

    The facts don’t matter to women as much, hence they fuck shit up. Hillary’s last campaign was an out of control mess – folks who never read the book “Game Change” don’t realize a good chunk of the book took a very critical look at Hillary as a candidate and campaign leader and found her wanting. She couldn’t hire, fire or lead her own team. Her strategy was always wrong and she sucks at retail politics. Leftists think she did okay because she didn’t lose her cool when in fact the hearings confirmed her perfidy.

    Matrilineal societies may be okay with a subsistence with low levels of effort, but if we were so, we would still be living in the trees too. And there is no way that we can just reverse all this with some stupid feminists and Marxists riding atop us – all they can do is destroy us and regress us, which is the seed of their own destruction.

  48. @IAS – Not directly but it’s a great insight. The paper does make reference to another basic fact of economics – if one studies it that is – trust drives economies and societies. Culturally homogeneous societies have higher trust, and higher trust societies have higher civic engagement and more economic activity. Free market societies function better with higher levels of trust.

    The opposite is true. Multicultural societies have much lower levels of trust, and much more social isolation and less economic activity. They have higher social tension and are easier for central govts to control and manipulate. Multiculturalism also makes it very easy to set one group against the other.

    The biological aspects are very interesting as both forcings and feedbacks. Humans, we are so damn complicated. This is why the SJWs will fail, they have a ridiculous idea about who and what human beings are.

  49. @Wild Man
    https://therationalmale.com/2014/09/29/a-new-hope/

    The key to living in a red pill context is to unlearn your blue pill expectations and dreams of finding contentment in them, and replace them with expectations and aspirations based on realistic understandings of red pill truths.

    Learn this now, you will never achieve contentment or emotional fulfillment in a blue pill context with red pill awareness.

    Killing your inner Beta is a difficult task and part of that is discarding an old, comfortable, blue pill paradigm. For many newly unplugged, red pill aware, men the temptation is to think they can use this new understanding to achieve the goal-states of their preconditioned blue pill ideals. What they don’t understand is that, not only are these blue pill goal-states flawed, but they are also based on a flawed understanding of how to attain them.

  50. Powell talks about “re-educating boys” – we already have re-education camps for boys. They are called elementary schools.

    Ding, ding, ding, ding! Indoctrination of the Pedestalization of Women, Feminization of boys, Socialism, and White Guilt begins here and continues throughout formal education (with a few exceptions).

  51. @Emily, every post you make here only confirms every principle I’ve outlined since before you were in middle school. But like, just like Insanity, you don’t have the wit or the intellectual curiosity to actually read anything counter to the tropes that roll around in your head.

    You are a case study in exactly how the Feminine Imperative conditions women from the earliest age to believe in the social conventions it has prepared for them, but will ultimately end in their (preplanned) misery once the hit the Wall.

    You parrot back the same narrative that’s been around since before you were born and think they’re original wisdom to you. You have ego-invested beliefs about women and men and you have no idea where you learned them. You mouth back all these very old aphorisms and cutesy pablum while you think “everyone knows that”, but when those investments meet a real, evidentiary, truth that oppose them you predictably do what every other woman before you has – disqualify, deny and dismiss.

    Dread:
    https://therationalmale.com/2012/03/27/dread-games/
    https://therationalmale.com/2013/05/13/soft-dread/

    SMV:
    https://therationalmale.com/2012/06/04/final-exam-navigating-the-smp/
    https://therationalmale.com/2013/06/20/smv-ratios-attachment/
    https://therationalmale.com/2012/06/12/smv-in-girl-world/
    https://therationalmale.com/2013/10/25/smv-is-it-real/

    If your step mom is 26 and you are actually 20 it sounds like your father is a pretty good example of exactly the dynamic I outlined while you were a freshman in high school:

    https://therationalmale.com/2014/10/13/validation-hunting-the-jenny-bahn-epiphany/

    https://therationalmale.com/2012/07/18/the-wall/

    Read these. Educate yourself before you make an even great fool of yourself.

  52. Ouch, Rollo.

    If she has the fortitude to actually read those essays it is going to leave a hell of a mark on her boyfriend/fiance.

    I doubt (but hope) it will end in ego-investment revenge sex with him.

  53. I know Roissy isn’t popular with some here, and I certainly don’t care for the racist stuff or for most of the comments posted there, but he has a good recent blog post about betas’ lack of male friends (i.e., the kind of friends who will pull him aside and say, “You are screwing up big time.”). Many commenters are pointing out – correctly – that it’s difficult for even more masculine, red pill guys to find & make such friends in this day and age. I believe this dovetails perfectly with this blog post. If you don’t have a few good, masculine guys in your life who are willing to be blunt with you about how you’re making a fool of yourself with women or whatever else, you become much more susceptible to the FI and to neofemininity type crap.

  54. @Rollo: “If your step mom is 26 and you are actually 20 it sounds like your father is a pretty good example of exactly the dynamic I outlined..”

    She’s completely oblivious…

  55. – Women are incompetent as leaders and managers in many real respects. Just start with the fact (studied, and I can’t find the cite – but googling should confirm what I’m saying) that women have much higher “ingroup prefernces” than men.

    Here ya go:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15491274

    The ingroup preference appears to be 4:1, that is women will favor other women vs. men by 4X. That’s why HR is a fish market.

  56. @TheLastCoyote October 24th, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    “I believe this dovetails perfectly with this blog post. If you don’t have a few good, masculine guys in your life who are willing to be blunt with you about how you’re making a fool of yourself with women or whatever else, you become much more susceptible to the FI and to neofemininity type crap.”

    I’ll cosign that.

    And re-iterate this:

    https://therationalmale.com/2015/10/10/the-vetting-process/comment-page-6/#comment-122736

    “A man’s capacity to receive another man’s direct criticism is a measure of his capacity to receive masculine energy. If he doesn’t have a good relationship to masculine energy (e.g., his father), then he will act like a woman and be hurt or defensive rather than make use of other men’s criticism.”

  57. This is just the latest version of the FI’s 80:20 rule. Naturals won’t buy into this beyond maybe some verbal parroting. So the 20% of men that women really want will still be available. Sure, women will have to share them, so what? Five minutes of Alpha, am I right?

    It’s another turn of the screw, the FI is tightening the clamps just a little bit more on humanity. Making boys into crossdressers? Just more of the same ball-cutting that’s been going on for generations. No need to make men into actual eunuchs when the FI can use brainwashing to create self-hating male humans who are mentally castrated.

    Best response to this poor man is out and out laughter. Single mother as defender of the home? Laughter. Single mother as her son’s best friend? More laughter. Trained to see women as objects? ROFL!

    Anyone too far down the rabbit trail into FI brainwashing arguably can’t be reached with reason, you have to get them angry or scared or some other emotional storm going on, and telling them they are stupid as you laugh? Yeah, that’ll work.

  58. @Roused: You sound like a perfect candidate for reading Jack Donovan’s The Way of Men.

    The way of women is the hive. All women belong to the hive simply by virtue of being women.

    The way of men is the trade society and a few good buddies he will put his life on the line for.

    Men are not alone when they don’t have a woman. Men are alone when they don’t have a right hand man, a fireteam and a secret society defined by trade. Belonging to all of these requires some formal or informal right of passage.

    The burden of performance. Men are individual not because they don’t belong to some group, but because they are only accepted by the group on an individual basis after his mettle has been tested.

    @IAS:

    Heels were invented shortly after the stirrup. They keep your foot from sliding forward through it. If the slip makes you fall from your horse you would end up, without modern surgical techniques, at best, a cripple for life.

    As height is dominance, officers started adding hight to their heels to appear more dominant to the men under their command.

    Makeup began as hunter’s camouflage of face and hands, then was extended to make warriors look more fierce.

  59. @SJF

    “Keep moving in that direction, but don’t blurt out your new-found awareness to all that are “supposed” to listen to you.”

    Point well taken. Thanks for the comments and reminder.

  60. That Powell did not speak of his own father says much. That Powell pledged a fraternity, Alpha Phi Alpha, says much, especially when doing so undergrad, as I did (Not the same as he did). That he did not speak of brotherhood aside from being raised by his mother says much. Knowing him briefly throughout my time in the music business while in New York and in college, watching him run for office (and me being asked, but not conributing to his campaign) I can only think…what propelled him to write this drivel except for some new public relations and a new avenue for income? FI and all that, sure. Monetary incentive to keep his hustle going, to remain relevant, I believe more.

  61. As a man with african roots and grown up in a patriarchic society, i can really say that i have compassion with african-american men.
    But i don’t have compassion with Mr. Powell, because he is foolish, inexperienced and yet he has the nerve to try to teach other men about this highly important topic.

    When a man try to teach somebody else what it’s like to be a man and never talk once about his own biological father, than he is not credible.

    To walk through life as a red-pill-aware man, it’s really tough, nasty but also funny and thrilling to witness all the stupidity in our societies.

    Somebody talked about religion in the comments.

    It’s funny, but with my red-pill awareness, i became more religious !!!

    My mental point of orgin is now fully ME, after a while of reflecting.
    But i also have understood how important my christian faith is, because when i have read the bibel again it was remarkable for me to realize how red-pill the bibel is.
    And it’s even more remarkable how feminin the church has became…..LOL

    I think the pace of FI-indoctrination will become higher and even more intense.

    Iam truly happy and honored to talk/write about these topics with like-minded Men.

    I have finished now to read all your posts, Rollo.
    Damn, you really had covered nearly EVERYTHING !!
    Impressive, Rollo.

    By the way, do you have someone who translate your books into german?

    If you don’t have someone, i would do it. I would love to help to spread your work in Germany.
    German men need Red-Pill knowledge desperately.

  62. This struck me: “Embracing this men-as-problem meme also offers them the opportunity to passively compete intrasexually with the conventionally masculine men then would otherwise never engage.”

    I think this point Rollo made reveals I primary driver, an escape method, the easy road – as it’s sold – to becoming better with women. Yet, the social response is unfavorable in the long term for both genders, something we’ve seen technology accelerate with the interconnectedness it provides.

    Being from the midwest, noteable changes in women’s behavior en masse, usually took about 2 years before it was fully recognized here, often starting in the great coastal metropolises then arriving at my doorstep 18-24 moths later, now it takes as little as 6 months. Once that change happens, man on-boarded to Powell’s construct as described, concrete these changes in behavior and attitude, and the only true undoing is traditional masculinity, no matter how long its’ inevitably scoffed at.

  63. @Wais, the primary reason I don’t emphasize religion on TRM isn’t because I don’t think it has a part in men’s life experience, but that religion of all stripes is too easily co-opted to be put to use for the Feminine Imperative.

    You will find the FI’s influences in every mainstream religion, even the ones you think are diametrically opposed to it. Religion is, or is becoming a tool of control by the FI.

    Read Honor here:
    https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/18/the-honor-system/

    Just like the male concepts of Honor and Chivalry, religion is, very easily, twisted to put feminine primary purposes on men as part of doctrine.

    Religion is no insurance against Hypergamy, and in fact is often a tool of Hypergamy that solidifies feminine control.

  64. @Roused
    Your post made my run that much better. That was a hell of a good read.
    I hope your journey takes you to the best places not yet found and sorely needed especially for young boys growing up. I sure as hell still need help.

    @SJF
    “Have other inputs such as adventures, “peak experiences”, collegiality with other men, pursuit of women that are feminine and give you energy, passions and hobbies, and reading non-fiction for intellectual self improvement.”

    Nice

    @ChocDoc
    “When a man try to teach somebody else what it’s like to be a man and never talk once about his own biological father, than he is not credible.”

    Especially dealing with trauma.

    @Rollo Tommassi
    “You will find the FI’s influences in every mainstream religion, even the ones you think are diametrically opposed to it. Religion is, or is becoming a tool of control by the FI.”

    Almost from day one when I starting my Redpill journey your work proved that in my religious upbringing.

    “Religion is no insurance against Hypergamy, and in fact is often a tool of Hypergamy that solidifies feminine control.”

    Entire family is a case and point of this.

  65. @KFG and Roused:

    “You sound like a perfect candidate for reading Jack Donovan’s The Way of Men.”

    Good pickup KFG. I would be disappointed in Roused if he didn’t read that book ASAP. In its chapters he will find a way for him to relate to and redeem his son even if he never speaks of it’s contents to him, but leads him with it’s descriptive format. It does not contain much of a prescription, but he can easily format one for his son’s circumstances.

    Roused, do you foresee your son developing the four tactical virtues to be better at being a man in the current Hivemind? Those being Strength, Courage, Mastery and Honor (among men)? Then get reading it.

  66. Rollo, you missed the most obvious part of all this: Powell’s black. The crisis he’s talking about is a black male crisis, white males have a different crisis going on (I’m assuming Mrs. Tomassi was commenting on genderfluid white boys, not black or latino boys).

    Here’s why race is important: misogyny is rampant in black culture, far more so than in ours. At the same time, black families are all matriarchal, matrilineal, led by single mothers, and black girls are the most promiscuous in our society. Is it a coincidence that, with this background, black male culture is so misogynist? Of course not. Families led by single moms = more misogyny. Their boys seek their masculine upbringing from older boys, as opposed to their fathers.

    As white society comes to gradually take on the shape of black society -single mothers, matrilineal families, matriarchal values, white female promiscuity, we can naturally expect white male culture to follow the same misogynist trajectory.

  67. I know Roissy isn’t popular with some here, and I certainly don’t care for the racist stuff or for most of the comments posted there, but he has a good recent blog post about betas’ lack of male friends (i.e., the kind of friends who will pull him aside and say, “You are screwing up big time.”). Many commenters are pointing out – correctly – that it’s difficult for even more masculine, red pill guys to find & make such friends in this day and age. I believe this dovetails perfectly with this blog post.

    Generally speaking, betas that are married, or are on a straight path towards marriage (i.e. in a relationship) have little or no meaningful social interaction with other men. Women rule these relationships, and they are generally invested in isolating their bitchboys from other spheres of social life, especially from single men or divorced men. They expect undivided attention, basically. So we have a group of blue pill betas disconnected from other men and engaged in a constant competition to outdo each other in betaization,

    I’m sure we all recognize this type of guy, don’t we? It’s that beta dude who used to be a good pal of yours. Then some fat or plain-looking broad pairs up with him, and he stops going out with his bros, stops visiting sports events etc., gives up his hobby, he suddenly has no time for anything. And he starts to have this nasty, condescending attitude towards single men he used to be on good terms with. He thinks he’s a winner in life because he sometimes gets to fuck a broad whose SMV is 2-3 points lower than his. (This is the reality of unrestrained hypergamy. A female 6 will agree to pair up with a male 8. She won’t pair up with a male 6.) And you’re a loser because you don’t get to do the same! And he starts acting like an absolute shithead towards other men in the presence of that broad, because that’s his way of mate-guarding or something. He basically internalizes his own submission to the FI. He cedes control over his own life.

    I know these guys, and they’re pretty much insufferable cunts. The average beta,single or not, has no advantage to gain by trying to form friendships with them. He probably won’t succeed anyway, and there’s nothing in it for him in the first place.

    And single blue pill betas also have a tendency to shit all over their fellow betas and treat them in very nasty ways as soon as they get the impression that they might get pussy by doing so. This is also another reality in a society structured around unrestrained hypergamy.

    Betas basically lack real incentives to form friendships with each other, which probably explains why they increasingly don’t actually do it. It’s one force driving social atomization.

  68. Yet another universal nuclear beta bait 5h1t test.

    @ Anonymous Reader

    Best response to this poor man is out and out laughter.

    I said it first. P

    Don’t get mad. Just lol @ all their bull5h1t. Ridicule them mercilessly while having fun doing so.

  69. @Wais

    Keep your metaphysical and philosophical beliefs free of religion. Religion is simply an act of codifying said beliefs for the purpose of social control. The moment someone new is in charge of your religion, they’ll be telling you that you have to change your beliefs. Most of your fellow followers will go with them simply to avoid social ostracism.

    Religion is just as much a dead end for the self-actuated individual as any other social control mechanism. It’s just dressed up in bespoke trappings trying to pretend that’s not the case. Religions will be changed to suit the controlling interests of the times. Knowing that they will change despite their own insistence that they won’t (for instance, Islam in the First World becomes as watered-down as First World Christianity), you should make the changes fall under your own control instead of someone else. Otherwise you find yourself simply a slave to the whims of others.

    My beliefs have become fluid as I’ve gotten older. If they hadn’t, I’d find myself in a constant state of cognitive dissonance when reality doesn’t line up with my expectations. I couldn’t have done it without completely eschewing all formalized religion. Instead of taking the world as described to me by someone with an agenda to control me, I examine the evidence in my own life and throw out beliefs that do not align with that evidence. Religion demands that you throw out evidence that does not align with a codified belief.

    That’s no way to run your own life and set your own Frame.

  70. @ Hoellenhund2: “I’m sure we all recognize this type of guy, don’t we? It’s that beta dude who used to be a good pal of yours. Then some fat or plain-looking broad pairs up with him, and he stops going out with his bros, stops visiting sports events etc., gives up his hobby, he suddenly has no time for anything. And he starts to have this nasty, condescending attitude towards single men he used to be on good terms with. He thinks he’s a winner in life because he sometimes gets to fuck a broad whose SMV is 2-3 points lower than his. (This is the reality of unrestrained hypergamy. A female 6 will agree to pair up with a male 8. She won’t pair up with a male 6.) And you’re a loser because you don’t get to do the same! And he starts acting like an absolute shithead towards other men in the presence of that broad, because that’s his way of mate-guarding or something. He basically internalizes his own submission to the FI. He cedes control over his own life.”

    Yep. My best friend for many years. Not any more. Your description is spot on. Being his best man when he married her was the worst day’s work I ever did. She meets her boyfriend at events dear hubby has taken her to. How high and mighty my ex best friend has become.

    Now I come to think about it, it was the other bloke who I was best man for, who stabbed me in the back just this year. His girlfriend (the marriage failed before she appeared) is playing some sort of long game. She gave him the ‘knife’ he used and made him use it.

    If asked to be a best man again, I think I’ll refuse…

  71. I lived my entire life  (I’m 37) in active hypergamy without knowing / understanding what was wrong with me.

    I’m a successful woman, relatively smart, relatively attractive, with increases in my SMV based on not sleeping around in between my serially monogamous relationships and assorted talents and hobbies that interest men. (“One of the guys” in hobby.)

    I’ve been married 5 times. I’m successful enough to have had to pay alimony to men in some of my divorces.

    Every time I have left a man -1- My partner didn’t “deserve” it, but I had built a rationalized case anyway. -2- I had found a man I considered better, and felt I deserved the best -3- I didn’t have loyalty, and I worried about myself as a decent human being, but rationalized my actions.

    My 4th husband was different. I had finally settled for a man I felt strongly enough to reproduce with, and I had my first child 3 years ago at 34. I loved my husband, and though I didn’t know about hypergamy, I knew I had a cycle of leaving and destroying men pretty awfully, and I swore I was never going to do that again.

    After our child was born, my husband checked out of the relationship and legitimately tested my newly forced loyalty Andy oath to commit. As a ‘not inherently loyal woman’, I struggled. After over a year of him suffering his own form of post postpartum depression, my hypergamous tendencies struck again.

    A year and a half ago, I left my husband for a co-worker. He became my 5th husband, to whom I am currently married. After this last agonizing switch, I started doing internet research on wtf was wrong with me and I found you, Rollo. I was feeling like a crazy sociopath being able to be a normal, thinking, reasonable person, but also able to *destroy* a man – level him to the ground – regardless of how much it also destroyed pieces of myself. I needed to understand how I could do it again, now with the innocent casualty of my child.

    I’ve been reading you for a year now. I am going through my own, very strange version of the redpill, filled with a lot of self loathing and despair.

    I just don’t know how to proceed with my new understanding. I have a child with my last husband, and it hasn’t been as easy to ‘quit’ him emotionally as any of the others for three reasons -1- We’re tied by our child -2- He’s snapped out of the depression that had me switch up on him and blames himself because he knew my propensity for leaving. -3- He forgives me the agony I’ve caused and would rebuild our family if I rerurned.

    My current husband also loves and wants me, and we’re expecting my second and final child together. He can tell that I am not completely over my ex. It concerns him greatly. I want to clarify that with my new knowledge of hypergamy comes with debilitating guilt and regret for leaving. (Which I am feeling for the first time after a lifetime of bad behavior and solipsism.)

    I am very ready to admit, beyond ready, that I am the cause of all the bullshit. I am not seeking sympathy and I anticipate getting pretty well torn up by your readership, but I am desperate for advice and further understanding.

    I’ve legitimately ruined my life, my ex’s life, and am poised to ruin my current husband’s life to potentially undo it all. In the wake of my ruin is a 3 year old and an unborn child.

    I will submit my strategy is ultra destructive and have abandoned it. I will submit to a male frame… but whose? Neither man deserves my wreckage, but somebody loses (doesn’t get their family unit) because of where I have out us. It has occurred to me that both men deserve better, but they both want me, and now I have learned enough to become better.

    Thoughts? Opinions? Also, thank you for helping me understand how being socially raised with limitless expectations has made me destructive and wrong. At least I can (hopefully) help my children.

    (For anyone reading me. You don’t have to like me. I don’t like me very much right now, either.)

  72. @tingler

    The fact that Powell is black and coming from that perspective
    is a good point and is important to understanding where that essay comes from. But Powell doesn’t dare say he spoke only to black campus leaders or emphasized that perspective as coming from the ‘hood for obvious reasons. It could be seen as an attack on black men and black culture. So the essay must be taken on its face as written, aimed at all cis-het men everywhere. And taken down accordingly.

  73. 501(c)
    ‘Men Against Female Hate Speech’
    ‘Men For Divorce Reform’
    File Discrimination Suits.
    Case in Point: The german kid mattress girl fucked over. If men start using Constitution against the FI then theiris a future. Otherwise get on a pla ne and go to the third world. Stand and fight or else….

  74. “Mz. Double H hockey sticks:
    Smells Like Teen Spirit.
    As in: 4chan troll.”

    Hate to say it, but after I had finished masturbating to her post and achieving an earth-shattering red pill orgasm to her tale of feckless female woe, I had to admit to myself that it was just a troll.

    Well played, Mrs. (or Mr.) Hopeless Hypergamy.

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