The Red Pill Monthly


 

Just a quick reminder here, Niko and I will be doing the Red Pill Monthly livestream this Friday morning. February 12th at 10 am PST. Last time was kind a of a dry run for us and people wanted some advance notice so they can participate in the live chat so here it is.

I have to do these as my schedule permits, so this time slot is by no means going to be a regular thing. Hopefully it works for everyone this month.

We’ll of course be discussing current events in the ‘sphere, but also some foundational Red Pill stuff, as well as taking questions live. If there’s something you’d like us to consider please feel free to leave your comment or question about it in today’s thread.

The link will be until Saturday.


136 responses to “The Red Pill Monthly

  • rugby11

    Trauma and red pill awakening…

  • james

    Hello my name is James ,I was listening to a radio broadcast and the host was talking to a Female about the new legislation for females to be listed for the draft. The reason I am bring this up is because I would like to hear a discussion on how Females only demand equality when it benifits them and they run for hills when it doesn`t. The Female guess was vehemently explaining how women oppose this idea by saying they were not pyschically mentally and emotional the same as their male counter part in this arena and should be consider unsuitable for this type of enviroment. They should not be expected or subjected to being in this enviroment. Now to close and hopefully you will get a chance to talk about this. There are alot of Nation that do have and draft female soldiers into military service. They do not have the lopside equal right that women in America have. American women want American men to go and fight for their freedom to continue to tread on men rights in a country that they know treat men unfairly in every aspect of life that involves both genders and see men as cannon fodder. You want eqaul everything but unwilling to fight for it equally. What will they do when gender is totally eradicated and the non gender agenda is accepted.

  • kfg

    “What will they do when gender is totally eradicated . . .”

    It will never happen because they will never want it.

  • StrikeForce Morituri

    Thanks for the link I’ll be looking forward to what you guys have to say!

    With that said, what do you think of the Brouhaha coming from The MSM regarding the backlash towards the Hillary Clinton campaign and First Wave feminists telling women that they need to betray themselves and vote Team Hillary as she’s a woman? Do you think there are some women out there that unknowingly are rejecting their Hypergamy during this election? I left the link if you’re not familiar with the story.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us/politics/gloria-steinem-madeleine-albright-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders.html?_r=0

  • Forge the Sky

    Cool, can’t wait to listen to it. Finally got around to listening to the other one (it’s easier for me to keep up w/ reading than audio/video) and thought the first RPM was a good start.

    I won’t be able to make that time unfortunately. I’ll drop a topic suggestion/question here if one comes to mind.

  • Not Born This Morning

    Keeping people confused, angry, and inconfident is very competitive business.

  • Jeremy

    OT, Rollo, you might want to start reconsidering using Twitter:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-10/twitter-unveils-house-ministry-truth

    Twitter is creating a council to “strike the right balance between fighting abuse and speaking truth to power”, and it includes organizations like Feminist Frequency, Anita Sarkesian’s brain rot.

    It is starting to feel like 1984, literally day by day.

  • Rollo Tomassi

    @Jeremy, thanks, but I am aware of it.

  • benfromtexas

    I think it would be a good discussion for both of you guys to discuss “filtering” women. What are the best traits to look for. Should she be hot(gets your dick up in the long run), hyper-feminine, submissive, ect… That would a good topic to discuss. Filtering for me has been an issue at times, & it would be a good subject to discuss.

  • walawala

    Hi Rollo, I do have a question. It’s something I haven’t seen widely discussed. The question is: “From a Red Pill perspective, when do you decide to quit something: a relationship, a girl, a project?” I’m having a tough time consolidating the idea of letting go of a few things…the idea of “giving up” or letting go seems to clash with my own alpha beliefs (or mistaken beliefs??) that you don’t walk away from a situation. The question comes from a few things over the last few months where projects and girls I’ve been involved with just haven’t delivered the satisfaction. Is it me or them? I’d like to hear more from a Red Pill perspective. Thanks…

  • stuffinbox

    @ROLLO
    You are probably already three steps ahead of this.But”if I was you”in light of current events down play or soft peddle the controversial stuff and stick to a complicated topic like gender complement.

  • IAS

    My topic request (which I proposed a few weeks ago after the 1st one) is discussion on Frame, creating and holding Frame, clarifying what it is and isn’t and so on.

  • Dutchman

    re: Twitter. Not surprising at all, although I must say, I don’t understand why they think it’s a smart business decision to go FULL BORE on the SJW stuff.

    Oh well, in a few months or years something new will come along and twitter will fade.

  • grokgameblog

    @Rollo potential question for the show:

    You mentioned in the first episode that knowing what you now know, you would not remarry. My question: knowing what you now know, would you have married in the first place?

    My guess: yes, with qualifications. I bet Niko would say no. Should be an interesting conversation.

  • newlyaloof

    I’d like you guys to address how being alpha/RP with women is a natural state since for a girl’s whole life leading up to dating, she has been alpha’d by her father (unless he’s a spineless beta).

    Think about it, girls’ whole lives they are pickup up, thrown into the air, twirled,grabbed/tickled/rough-housed by their dads. Their dads do the discipline. Their dads are the ones that usually don’t take shit like mother’s do. Father’s are literally giants to their young daughters who are half their size and height. Girls are used to this dynamic their whole lives, so it’s only logical that we should be dominant in our relationships with females.

  • Lazarus

    +1 for Red Pill Awakening and creating/maintaining frame.

  • Nectar

    I have a question: What determines if the way you are handling a situation is “standing your ground and not taking shit from a girl” and “reacting in a way that makes you look butt hurt”? I feel like there are many times when I can’t decide if I should call a girl out for her behavior I don’t like or if I should let the situation slide because responding would make me look butt hurt.

    Thanks for any input.

  • PivotPersona (@thepivotpersona)

    Please mansplain if a relationship where a man has good frame for LTR potential outweigh low notch count?

    Is there a projected timeline for the next Man in Demand or RM talk. Will there be a possibility of one being in Northeast of the US?

  • Rollo Tomassi

    Well if there is I can assure you no alcohol will be served there so you may want to reconsider going.

  • smindux

    Interesting statistics(and visualization) of marriage in this day and age.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-who-marries-whom/
    I would like to hear both of your observations on that.
    I would like to hear your thoughts on how non-exclusivity puts strain on plates the longer you spin them until some of them go down.

  • PivotPersona (@thepivotpersona)

    @RolloTomassi

    I read your material to continually strengthen my mental point of origin to make the best decisions in my personal and work life. Prefer to listen with a clear mind.

  • Niko Choski (@nikochoski)

    Apologies for the lag during the livestream, uncontrollable circumstances occurred. The video for the whole talk can be found here:

    The podcast will be downloaded at archive.org at a later date.

  • walawala

    Thanks for addressing my question at 1:00:00. You nailed it in the context of “commitment”. Would love to see a wider post on this: the conflict of commitment. What’s our “duty” as men to see things through vs…hypergamy. Is commitment “Blue Pill”? Great insights.

  • benfromtexas

    Why is it that I can’t get the whole discussion? When I click on the link or search YouTube it’s a minute promo? Is there somewhere else I need to go to listen to the entire discussion?

  • benfromtexas

    I think I might have spoken too soon. Thanx Niko for providing the link.

  • hoellenhund2

    As far as Rooshgate is concerned, the crucial fact that should not go unmentioned is that rape is probably the only criminal act lacking a legal definition. Technically speaking, having sex with a woman too drunk to give consent is indeed rape, but only if she decides afterwards that it was. Otherwise it’s just drunk sex; it doesn’t even fall into the category of unreported crime.

  • hoellenhund2

    OT. YaReally drew my attention to this MGTOW channel. This video is a great example of the type of male indifference that women like to complain about:

  • Anonymous Reader

    hollenhund2, huh? I have a hard time buying that. Seems to me a lot of women would just ignore this guy, or at most want him to buy them something.

    Kinda would want my 13 minutes back, too, except that I was working on a small problem on the laptop, and eye-flirting with a woman while listening to this guy drone on in my earbuds. So not a total loss…nice smile, girly…

  • stuffinbox

    @Rollo just finished listening to your podcast,while the wife listened in.
    As expected she didn’t like your rooshgate ops but when the questions came in amazingly she agreed with your answers for the first time.Niko she said she would like to punch in the throat lol.
    Thanks to both of you guys , very insightful as per usual.

  • Tam the Bam

    James:-
    Aar moi lover
    . But that has always been the difficult pancake.
    Sort of like the difference between, … Murder, and ManSlaughter.

    And then there’s Proof of Englishry to consider …
    Oh to hell with it. Burn the women and drown the men.

    Life’s too short.

  • Tam the Bam

    well made an absolute rickets of that James, This is what I was going on about.

    Hello my name is James ,I was listening to a radio broadcast and the host was talking to a Female about the new legislation for females to be listed for the draft. The reason I am bring this up is because I would like to hear a discussion on how Females only demand equality when it benifits them and they run for hills when it doesn`t. The Female guess was vehemently explaining how women oppose this idea by saying they were not pyschically mentally and emotional the same as their male counter part in this arena and should be consider unsuitable for this type of enviroment. They should not be expected or subjected to being in this enviroment. Now to close and hopefully you will get a chance to talk about this. There are alot of Nation that do have and draft female soldiers into military service. They do not have the lopside equal right that women in America have. American women want American men to go and fight for their freedom to continue to tread on men rights in a country that they know treat men unfairly in every aspect of life that involves both genders and see men as cannon fodder. You want eqaul everything but unwilling to fight for it equally. What will they do when gender is totally eradicated and the non gender agenda is accepted.
    kfg

  • Johnycomelately

    Since so much time was spent on Roosh I’ll give my observations as someone who has spent most of his life with 2nd gen Islamics.

    One has to remember that as a second generation immigrant from a socially conservative culture he has an internal narrative that is an an ossified version of his parent’s parent’s culture. We’re talking about 1930s Levant here.

    That’s the dismay of second generation Islamics, they’ve been displaced from a middle age culture to the West without the intervening enculturation. They feel lost and experience an existential crisis as their idealised reality doesn’t match their observations.

    To preserve their mental integrity they have to hang on to their idealised cultural narrative. To do otherwise would create an insurmountable psychological devastation of identity, they have to believe the lie or experience identity death.

    (Is it any wonder Islam has never engaged in textual criticism concerning the Koran? They can’t do it, they’re too afraid of what they’d find. It’s far easier to believe a lie than accept 1400 years of culture based on a false narrative. They’d choke on their Hadiths if they ever discovered Islam is Chriastian Arianism version 2.0)

    They act out from their subconscious idealized reality but in a Western context. You have to remember Islam is the bluest of blue pill cultures, for fucks sakes they are so unnerved by female sexuality that they put them under lock and key and even engage in clitorectomy. Western women are whores but they hold on to the belief of Islamic unicorns.

    Roosh dipped his toe in Western culture and was found wanting, he tried fucking the kafirs but it didn’t work out. Notice he never stepped foot in Muslim fuck fests like Bosnia, Kosovo, Albania and Indonesia, no that would be haram.

    He is now reverting to the only thing he knows, cultural conservatism. I guarantee his parents have a girl lined up for him, either a village filly from the mother country or a cousin (he is prepping his audience for his ‘red pill’ marriage conversion).

    The coverage he is getting would indicate he has shaken hands with the devil and should be considered controlled opposition.

    Watch for his Road to Damascus conversion and his soon to be announced marriage, unless he is already hiding it on the down low.

  • cheupez

    @stuffinbox
    “@Rollo just finished listening to your podcast,while the wife…”

    You and your wife would listen to this together? How do you guys pull this off? Do girls also let you in on their locker room discussions? I just dont get it. Do you read the manoshpere together and debate? Will she eventually see it as if people like Rollo are something akin to a teacher trying to show you how to be a man, something you know nothing about unless you are told? What are the implications to her after that?

  • D Man

    Hi Rollo,

    I was reviewing the VDay post particularly around why men shouldn’t buy laungeray for women as it equates to negotiated desire, anyway one thing that’s apparent in my experience is on GNO’s wife and girlfriends invest maximum effort in their appearance and I agree the Medium is in the message! But is there anything a guy can do about this without achieving marginal fame to inspire competition anxiety or do you think it is just a condition of long term mates?

    Best Regards

    Dan

  • stuffinbox

    @Cheupez hypercritical
    After 40yrs of industrial noise,I turn the volume up just to hear it. If she wants to listen to man business an honest man has nothing to hide.
    I already know what girls talk about and could care less.
    Sometimes while reading the “manosphere” I have to LOL,if she wants to know why I tell her.I know better than to engage in debate with a woman we agree to disagree.
    As she already believes that I am the best man of all this also doesn’t concern me.
    Maybe this helps?

  • scribblerg

    @Rollo – Please, Rollo explain more about how this thought experiment of Roosh’s is understandable and something you don’t find revolting? Let’s break it down:

    – Women are playing with consent to press female sexual agency and control male sexual agency.

    – So removing the laws which punish men for rape (on private property) will make women look at this issue of consent and their sexual agency differently?

    Horseshit. Ridiculous. It’s a nonsense and not a meaningful contribution to the dialog at all. Please, tell me, what does that construction add to the dialog – actually? How does it illustrate female sexual agency and how women are trying to control male sexual agency? It doesn’t.

    Now I also don’t think the article suggested we do so for real in society – of course he would never be stupid enough to do that. But if you don’t get how antagonistic and anti-social he’s being by writing such garbage, then you are just deeply biased about Roosh.

    It’s also a piece with many other aspects of Roosh. He has often written and said truly misogynistic things – things I’ve never once heard you write or utter. He’s cultivated a following of rabid hatefilled flying monkeys and is very friendly to racists and other bigotry.

    He’s scum. He has been so for years. Maybe in 2008 he wasn’t so far gone – I don’t give a shit. Your apologia for him doesn’t fly at all.

  • cheupez

    @stuffinbox

    Ya. It helps. I guess I just don’t have the balls to that though.

  • scribblerg

    @Johnny – Brilliant exegesis on the Islamic cultural angle and Roosh. One minor additional point. While Islam is blue pill as shit in real ways, the traditional male roles in some ways are also amplified. Being tough and assertive and aggressive are not shamed. Men are also seen as having to lead, and while female sexuality is so dominant, masculinity is also revered in Islamic societies.

    Great point about the Arianist 2.0 truth of Islam, the Koran is in large part essentially a rehash of the bible. It’s also possible Mohammed didn’t exist at all, but if he did, he was likely insane and suffering from hallucinations. In those times the mentally ill were often seen as clerics and spiritual beings.

    You also make a great point that most people don’t get about Islam and reformation. Most Islamic traditions already have experienced some kind of reform and modernization and Westernization and then rejected it. Some in the 20th century such as Twelver Shi’ism, and some a couple of hundred years ago with the beginning of the modern Salafist movement. The very idea of interpreting the Koran and reforming Islam flies in the face of Islam. There are some sincere reformers though, but I don’t think they’ll have any success in the foreseeable future.

    One of the things about Islamic political reform that never gets discussed in the West is how Marxism played into 20th century efforts at reforming Islam intellectually and politically. Baathists, Iranian reformers and many others across the Islamic intellectual spectrum attempted to blend the ideas of social justice from Marxism into a philosophical reinterpretation of Islam – which of course was rejected by the fundamentalists.

    Fyi, it’s these elements that the Obama administration is so wedded to in Egypt and elsewhere. The Muslim Brotherhood in particular has built a strong alliance with the left based on this rubric. Obama’s adherence to the ideas of Edward Said (the guy who reinterpreted Arab, Islamic and Western history via a Marxist lens, calling it “Orientalism”) and his progenitor Khalidi, currently a prof at Columbia, are yet another aspect of Obama’s Marxist bent. Of course, blending these ideas is always intractable and and incoherent, but when both movements are at their core anti-western, a common enemy can help cover up a lot conflict. Why do people think the West and the U.S. is so demonized in say Iran? The concept of “Westoxication” as explored by 20th century intellectuals in Iran started with a critique of bourgeois culture and many other class criticisms drawn from Marxism, in addition to the hatred of the Pehlavi regime. “Death to America” goes much deeper than just upset over the overthrow of Mousadegh. Careful study of the history of Islamic thought reveals that most of the people babbling about a reformed Islam have know idea what they are talking about. Islam has already rejected classical liberalism as debased and morally suspect, they have moved past it and will not step backwards as they see it. Roosh’s father is Iranian, fyi, and his generation were steeped in this kind of politics and Islam. Is it any wonder Roosh would find western values depraved at some point?

    I’ve always found it laughable that Roosh focused his entire life on pickup and then was shocked that such a life was empty. This is a sign of a deeply immature man, but it also may signal other latent ideas and views. Nice comment, keep it coming.

  • Rollo Tomassi

    What’s more ridiculous Glenn, the reality of Yes Means Yes consent laws expanding into society on whole or the hypothetical suggestion that we legalize rape on private property as an illustrative comparison?

    The larger narrative here is that Roosh needs controversy now or he disappears into a manosphere that has outgrown him. Even the alt-right in all their trad-con White Knighting has disowned him. I sincerely doubt Roosh wrote his thought experiment with the intent of what’s developed around it now, but he’s more than happy to have any controversy stoked by it now. If it wasn’t this article it would be another. This one was conveniently accessible and easy to digest for SJWs – few of them would ever be bothered to actually read his books to fish out more rape outrage.

    So that’s what he drives on, and I fully expect he’ll write another equally agitating essay to keep his agit-prop fires burning. In 2016 everyone is an SJW, even guys in the manosphere; it all just boils down to what we consider ‘social justice’ and the methods used to achieve that ideal. Roosh and the neomascunlinity crew have openly expressed using the same methods as SJWs to achieve their own ends and public awareness.

    “Misogyny” is a meaningless term in 2016. It’s the first epithet used for any idea, truth or marginally contradicting observation of female nature. Is Roosh a misogynist in a classical sense? Probably yes, but his financial need for agit-prop controversy exaggerates this to the point of parody.

    Trust me, I know about the neomasculine flying monkeys better than you do. If you recall last year when I came out against the whole contrived idea of neomaculinity I was doxxed by a couple of RVF members. In 13+ years of writing in the ‘sphere and on SoSuave I’d never once been doxxed by any woman or haters, but it was RVF members who did so.

    If what I’ve criticized Roosh for over the past year – and it’s been quite a bit since his world tour – sounds like apologetics to you it’s only because you want to read some scathing rebuke of his racism, politics, misogyny, etc. All of that’s been well covered by asshats like Dean Esmay and Paul Elam who have vested financial interests in separating the MRM from Roosh (which I should say was anticipated by Roosh in his priming them with his “interviews” with Karen Straughn and Paul Elam).

    Maybe you’ve forgotten my challenging Roosh last year:

  • tegramorgannet

    Hey Rollo.
    Sorry for posting it here, couldn’t find any other address for it.
    Here is a video where a woman realizes that marriage rates are dropping, and tries to create a better beta.

  • Bnj

    In an ambitious study published in 2013, Tim Clutton-Brock and Dieter Lukas of the University of Cambridge in the UK analysed over 2,500 mammal species to find out why some of them have become monogamous. They concluded that males will only accept monogamous pairings if they cannot dominate the females of their species.

    http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160213-why-pairing-up-for-life-is-hardly-ever-a-good-idea

  • The Other Jim

    The more I watch these cringeworthy Roosh appearances on these daytime tv shows(Dr. Oz, and their equivalent in the Ukraine and Romania) the more I see Roosh becoming like the Westboro Baptist Church. They’re really not about their ‘God Hates Fags’ signs so much as their need for attention and provocation to the point where they want provocation so they can sue for money when people assault them. That’s their real scam nowadays-the lawsuits by provoking assault. I hope Roosh isn’t moving in that direction but now I wonder about him.

  • Wild Man

    @scribblerg – why can’t you get it? Roosh’s point is that women tend to pretend that they didn’t make the decisions they made so that they can pretend that they didn’t have any responsibility for these decisions. The truth of this dynamic is everywhere, and spills into all kinds of spheres of influence, as outlined by way of the Feminine Imperative concept that Rollo has so well explicated. This dynamic has real world consequences for us all (men and women alike), outside of the sexual attraction sphere, but is especially prevalent within the sphere of sexual attraction, and the sphere of sexual attraction is probably the primary loci, psyche-wise, and hindbrain-wise, for this tendency.

    Despite what you think of Roosh otherwise, you can’t deny that this is the focal point for most of his writing. Does he go too far with this – yes, I would say, but kneejerking to making Roosh’s over-emphasis of the depths-of-the-womankind-duplicity-thing, the primary issue, is just deflection and therefore dismissive of the central premise that concerns us all – that women often pretend that they didn’t make the decisions they made so that they can pretend that they didn’t have any responsibility for these decisions, conscious or otherwise. .

    The real question is what women (and men in their way) are truly capable of, with respect to getting a proper handle on the correct parameters of their individual personal agency. How are we going to have that public discussion if the real question is dismissed via false-outrage-deflection? At least Roosh’s ham-handed efforts may begin to force some public discussion about the real question. Why do you think women need any help with respect to false-outrage-deflection anyway?

  • scribblerg

    @Rollo – Yeah, I do want to hear a scathing rebuke from you of his racism and misogyny and haven’t heard one yet. Questioning a few of his tweets doesn’t cut it. You may not choose to – fair enough, but when you spend so much energy on him and fail to do so don’t clutch your fucking pearls when I call you out on it. Even worse, to try and claim that what is being done with consent laws somehow justifies this? When you never come even close to this kind of hate yet deal with these subjects so thoroughly? Come on, Rollo, you are unwilling to admit what Roosh has become.

    Either you are opposed the hatred Roosh has created and surrounded himself with or you are not. It’s black or white. You want to stay out of this argument and also seem to be creating an environment where Alt Right fundo christians can be comfortable with their hateful bigotry and not have it challenged by you. Again, your choice – and it’s my choice to be intolerant of this shit.

    Maybe if you spent Christmas with your brother and his black wife and half black niece you’d be as incensed as I am by racism. When playing with her and hanging out with her and them over the years, my opposition to racism has become virulent.

    I’ll leave you all with a little story. In 2002 I joined my brother and his wife on a vacation. She is an accomplished, educated woman from a family that pulled themselves up by their bootstraps much as my Irish Catholic family did. We were sitting on the beach and I asked her what it was like to deal with racism. She didn’t bring this kind of stuff up, fyi. She replied, “You feel like some white people just hate you, no matter what.” That’s all she said, but it was the way she said it that really got to me. The emotion of it, how personal it is and how ugly and hurtful it is to individuals really came through. Not the politics of it, just what it felt like. I was forever changed.

    Of course there are differences between the races, but to claim the Red Pill demands one become a “race realist” and claim that the differences between black and white people are so great that we can’t live together is based on nothing but hate and ignorance. And Roosh is catering to such people.

    Fyi, the silence here from so many on this site on this subject speaks volumes about how many hateful racist lowlives there are in the manosphere. “Go Trump”, you fucking imbeciles…Roosh supports Trump – ‘nuf said. You are as destructive to the ideals this society and nation are based on as the Marxists are.

  • scribblerg

    @Wild Man – Pull your head out of your ass and read what I’m actually writing, not what you make up in your head. Consider this. Why is Rollo able to cover the same issues as Roosh with much greater intellectual rigor and not become hate filled? He’s scathingly critical of women but it never comes off as hateful, whereas spending just a few minutes on Return of Kings will reveal a cesspool of hate.

    Also, why do you need to deflect my criticisms by claiming it’s
    “false-outrage”? My outrage is very fucking real – I won’t make common cause with racists. Why is this so shocking to men here? How many of you are tolerant of racists? This is one of the few redoubts in the manosphere where race realists and illuminati buffs and bilderberg wingnuts don’t seem to thrive. That’s why I’m here – and nowhere else in the shitheap that is much of the manosphere.

    Roosh is no victim. Roosh is a scumbag. He’s damaging the cause of men, not aiding it. He’s turning very serious ideas into an easy to dismiss, half-baked, hate-filled ideology that only fuels our opposition. Why do I have to explain this? You guys are very smart here, this is obvious to anyone seriously thinking about this.

  • Wild Man

    @scribblerg:

    This is what you wrote (and you have said this type of thing for awhile now here wrt Roosh):

    “Let’s break it down:

    – Women are playing with consent to press female sexual agency and control male sexual agency.

    – So removing the laws which punish men for rape (on private property) will make women look at this issue of consent and their sexual agency differently?

    Horseshit. Ridiculous. It’s a nonsense and not a meaningful contribution to the dialog at all. Please, tell me, what does that construction add to the dialog – actually? How does it illustrate female sexual agency and how women are trying to control male sexual agency? It doesn’t. ”

    You asked for an answer and I gave it – you are outraged the Roosh depicts women a certain way and I explained why I think your overreaction to that it not helpful because it misses the point, and yet you continue to deflect, now by way of conflating Roosh’s racism with the issue at hand (btw – I’m not sure about the extent of Roosh’s racism, don’t focus on that part of Roosh’s commentary because I don’t care, so I really can’t comment) . So pull your head out of your own ass.

    You should fuck off already on your racism rants too. Getting old. Everybody is a racist, hindbrain-wise (even you and Blax), and there is plenty of evol psych data to back that up. Fucking old news. I guess you bluepill on racism. You not special because you are in some sort of denial buddy.

    People got more going on than there hindbrain though.

    You argue like a girl.

  • Divided Line

    @dutchman

    “Twitter. Not surprising at all, although I must say, I don’t understand why they think it’s a smart business decision to go FULL BORE on the SJW stuff.”

    It makes sense if they believe that “harassment” and “abuse” is driving people away from Twitter. Lena Dunham recently said she wouldn’t be using Twitter until it was a “safe space,” etc.

  • Glengarry

    Lol, the graveyards are full of indispensible commenters. Rather than making this a blog about ritual denounciations of racism driven by SJWs in the comment section, I’d prefer it if Rollo just asked all the ones with a swollen sense of their own importance to kindly fuck off. (Me included, if that’s how it is.)

  • Divided Line

    @scribblerg

    “The Muslim Brotherhood in particular has built a strong alliance with the left based on this rubric.”

    The Muslim Brotherhood is the right wing of Egyptian society. During the Arab Spring, the Egyptian left were labor and students. They were buying pizzas for protesters in Wisconsin. There is no “alliance” between the left and the Muslim brotherhood. Egypt is a U.S. client state. Its military, which is plugged into all the major industry of the country, relies on U.S. patronage. It’s like a miniature military industrial complex. Take a look at any country where the U.S. pulls the strings and you see the same thing.

    Mubarak was kept in power by the U.S. against his own people. The society which opposed him has a full ideological spectrum from left to right like any other society. The Muslim Brotherhood are an element of its conservatives. When the Muslim Brotherhood was elected after Mubarak’s ouster, the actual Egyptian left got scared and resisted them. The military they had already deposed became their heroes against the Egyptian right. That’s how the military, which is a proxy for the U.S., was able to reassert control.

    “Obama’s adherence to the ideas of Edward Said (the guy who reinterpreted Arab, Islamic and Western history via a Marxist lens, calling it “Orientalism”) and his progenitor Khalidi, currently a prof at Columbia, are yet another aspect of Obama’s Marxist bent.”

    Obama has no “Marxist bent.” He’s just another corporate shill who believes the same shit about free trade that people like yourself believe. Hence the TPP and all the rest.

    “Why do people think the West and the U.S. is so demonized in say Iran?”

    Uh, maybe because the U.S. toppled its democracy in the 1950s and installed a dictatorship which terrorized the society with U.S. trained and supplied secret police for 20 years. That’s why there was a revolution in 1979.

    ‘“Death to America” goes much deeper than just upset over the overthrow of Mousadegh.”

    Does it? Would it need to?

  • Wild Man

    @Johnycomelately – Roosh and Islam-brainwash – now that is an angle I don’t think many have considered. Do you happen to know how devout Roosh’s parents, and extended family is?

    If what you say turns out to be true, then this will go down as one of the most funny and bizarre public events in recent memory. Western decadence al la Feminine Imperative meets Islam (at least 200 years, if not 500 years behind schedule, secularization-wise) = the renunciation of a cuckoo redpill perspective = win for Feminism and Islam!!? = cultural cucking writ-large taken to the next level?

    You think that is what is in store – holy fuck – I almost hope so just for the sheer vertigo of the wild ride to come if so!.

  • kfg

    @Scribbler: “Maybe if you spent Christmas with your brother and his black wife and half black niece you’d be as incensed as I am by racism.”

    So, you are incensed by perceived attacks, even when they come in the negative form of not mounting an affirmative defense, against your kin?

  • Divided Line

    @scribblerg

    There are a lot of good criticisms of Roosh, but racism/misogyny isn’t one of them. I don’t are about Roosh’s racism. It’s irrelevant. As far as misogyny goes, I’m sure Roosh is a misogynist. I probably am one too. A lot of men have very good reason to feel that way about women. I’m surprised you need this explained to you. Somebody being a misogynist doesn’t invalidate their views.

  • Divided Line

    @kfg

    “So, you are incensed by perceived attacks, even when they come in the negative form of not mounting an affirmative defense, against your kin?”

    That’s straight up SJW-style moral paternalism.

  • Rollo Tomassi

    I don’t delve into race, politics or religion here specifically unless it directly relates to intersexual dynamics. That’s not to say I don’t hold personal views about all of the above, but my focus on this blog is to explore intersexual dynamics in as objective a fashion as I can, and sometimes I have to reserve my personal opinions for the sake of a larger understanding.

    Sometimes race, culture, politics and religion serve as experiences that inform intersexual relations, and conversely intersexual dynamism influences and manipulate race, culture, politics and religion.

    Of the 40+ women I’ve banged most were thin, hot blondes or redheads, however I’ve knocked it out with a Black girl, 2 Asians (1 a crazy hot Vietnamese-American spinner who will always hold a special place in my memory), 3 Latinas, and a gorgeous and very aggressive Puerto Rican girl.

    My best friend and longest business partner is Filipino (I wrote about him In Good Girls Do) and I have dozens of Filipino friends. Most of my creative staff (whom I hire) consists of Japanese, Indians and Caucasian men and women. I grew up and went to school in a big inner-city area of metropolitan Los Angeles and had so many friends of so many ethnicities I can’t recall all the variety.

    I never experienced real racism until I started working as an Art Director for a Mississippi casino and then again when I relocated to Florida, but even Florida was more racially diverse so I felt at home for the most part.

    Long story short, I think it’s idiocy to disqualify the experiences of any man due to his race, culture or religion, or sexual orientation. That’s one of the biggest problems I have with Roosh’s neomasculinity, it’s all based on a heteronormative, homogenous foundation that even he will discard if it means having dinner with Milo will get him a write up in Brietbart.

    I’m not even certain how much Roosh even buys into neomasculinity himself. All it is is a source of red meat to feed the masses and a vehicle for his notoriety as an outrage pundit. I fully understand why Scribb hates Roosh so much, but I’m looking past the outrage to see what his personal, self-serving motivations are to stir that outrage.

    This is why Roosh takes my criticism seriously, because I see his machinations and I call attention to it. Even my just retweeting links to articles by his detractors gets met with threats from his RVF supporters for not being a team player. These guys who are all about ‘free speech’ want nothing less than to threaten me for posting a link to the DailyMail article that showed Roosh at his front door with the cops.

    They take my opinions on Roosh seriously because I’m one of the three Rs and I’m a dissenting voice about Roosh’s reinvention of himself at the cost of the manosphere. That’s why I’m blocked, that’s why I’m banned, from all of Roosh’s media. If I was just apologizing for his shit, one would think his supporters would look to me for affirmation, instead I’m silenced in that sub-sphere.

  • Sun Wukong

    @Rollo

    You know, I get why Roosh’s Circus O’ Horrors concerns you, but honestly I think spending much more time on his shit would be a waste and a distraction.

    @scrib

    Why are you so surprised to find participating in a community which espouses a view of intergender dynamics that resembles TradCon views would result in finding some common ground with fundies, white supremacists, and homophobes? Honestly I’m surprised we don’t hear more from those types here. Not saying I want to, I’m just surprised we don’t and I expected to run in to them from day one. So how the hell didn’t you expect it?

    You think Rollo writing some angry tirade about it is productive? You think the invective you lob at anyone holding those views is going to do anything other than reinforce their opinions? You think slinging “You’re a racist too if you don’t pen angry screeds about it!” at guys who aren’t here to talk about it helps?

    My only criticism of them and you on the subject is that this isn’t the fucking place for it. At all. In either direction. And this is coming from a white guy who’s only dated within his own race about 3 or 4 times. I’ve dealt with all the racism and bigotry directly through those experiences and it fucking sucks, but this isn’t a place I come to deal with it.

    I agree with Rollo’s keeping away from it unless it intersects directly with what he discusses here. To make a mess about it would be just as unproductive as I find following Roosh’s shit show to be.

  • bob

    @all
    I Am a realist. Learned chicago school economics. Reject it. I reject most -isms.
    Are we here to play thought police? F$ck that. Interrogating each other is idiotic.
    I grew up similiarly to Rollo. Banged the whole colour spectrum.
    Der Trump is good as is Bernie. ‘Bout effin time. Democracy-will of the people.
    Quran? Classical arabic. No one gets it ‘ cept scholars: malleable. ISIS: wouldnt exist without U.S.
    Race n religion: mere distractions. Red herrings.

    @divided line n rollo: love how you guys think. fucking a.

    p.s. injured arm. pecking at keyboard with one finger. peace

  • YaReally

    @scribblerg
    “Either you are opposed the hatred Roosh has created and surrounded himself with or you are not. It’s black or white.”

    Holy shit dude give it a rest. You’re overreacting to some words on paper and pulling the same “you’d all better take my side as I overreact like a drama queen to the issue or you’re against righteousness and goodness” shit SJWs and Feminists pull. Quit trying to bully Rollo around on a fucking thought experiment that you’re taking WAY too seriously and are WAY too invested in.

    You are the ONLY one flipping your shit because you are the ONLY one who’s completely overreacting to Roosh’s article. There’s no need for Rollo to declare anything because Roosh is clearly fucking around.

    If you’re so worked up over discussing controversial topics, it might be time to take a break from reading shit in general on the internet. Everyone’s allowed to have their own opinions or to not share them with you, and no one wants to read your 50th rant badgering Rollo to give you some kind of peace of mind you seem to be seeking.

    http://yareallyarchive.com/2016/2/#comment-rationalmale-139490

    If you want a hugbox where no one who ever has an opposing view to you is ever allowed to comment on any subject you don’t personally approve of and everyone has to do whatever you say, start your own forum and moderate the fuck out of it like feminists and bluepill forums do.

    Leave Rollo alone!!😥 lol

  • hoellenhund2

    You’re overreacting to some words on paper

    Those words weren’t even printed.

  • scribblerg

    @Rollo – I’m willing to move on from Roosh – you are the one focusing on him and glossing over that he’s okay with conflating “race realism” with the Red Pill and also engages in ACTUAL misogyny. It’s quite surprising that you and many readers here seem to think that strong opposition to such things is unnecessary. I’m not sure what kind of moral universe you folks live in, but it surely is not one that aligns with my values. But of course, you will whine about “anti-white” and “anti-christian” things non-stop.

    Either you are for comity in the secular, egalitarian civic space our founders envisioned or you are not. Too many of you have wrapped yourselves up in a truly warped idea of what the U.S. was founded upon.

    Many of you are much more like the Puritans – whose version of America was rejected. We adopted the ideas of Roger Sherman, not the Massachusetts Bay Colony. But of course, most of you have no idea what the fuck it is I’m even talking about. Suffice it to say, the idea of the U.S. as a “Christian nation” was roundly rejected by the people who actually founded this country. You don’t own the ideas of liberty or classical liberalism. They aren’t “white” or “christian”. Stop conflating your biases with history and facts.

    I’m happy to move on from that piece of shit Roosh any time you’d like.

  • contrarian

    @yareally: where can I purchase this hug box you speak of? I gave my rottie away (long story), the cat is sleeping and my ex-squeeze box is… well, an ex…..

    Seriously though, on a philosophical note I really appreciate what you do here. Sometimes I see a wallayatext and my brain seizes up…ahhh…tl;cantread….but I override it cause you’re giving gold. I know that you are doing it out of a generosity of spirit. props.you’re a pragmatic realist. not enough around.

    btw you gave the best squirt 101 i’ve ever read. good shit dude. as an older guy i really had to adjust psychologically to the whole squirting thing. when i first heard/saw it on thenet i was about your age whole flynn effect thing had/is happening due to the whole internet of things and squirting is just one small piece. any thoughts on residual squeamishness?

    per all the genetics/race/science stuff. i dont really see why we even need discuss/acknowledge it here. how is being a better man relatef to i.q. studies that no one can pull any meaning out of? meaning: so what if some genetic i.q. varies by haploidgroups? no one seems to be able to show me how that affects real life in a tangible way.. Example, if european diaspora groups are ~100-105 then how come the media gets away with all their deception? riddle me that batman. If the typical entrepreneur has certain traits and is slightly above average?…..i just see it as not relevant here. guys getting girlz…that is the equation. Anything else is a waste of time…
    I’d rather think up catchy slogans and develop comebacks
    btw: i have a phrase i want to popularize
    ready: ‘castration culture’
    not bad eh?
    I am the meminator….hear me mumble

  • scribblerg

    @Ya – Your arguments are infantile and not even worth engaging in. I’m reacting to much more than Roosh’s article. You are on my turf now. I possess at least as much mastery of politics,history and political philosophy as you do on PUA so don’t dare to assume you can borrow your authority from PUA and sort me out on this topic. No dice, bunky. .

    The whole “tolerance of dissenting views” argument is completely childlike. Racism isn’t some unknown new idea we should explore and weigh the merits of. It’s evil. Period – it’s already been weighed, counte measured and found to be immoral. If I have to argue that here – it’s you fucks who are morally messed up, not me. And Roosh also spews hateful shit about women all the time. That’s just a fact – 10 mins on ROK proves that. Beyond all this, he’s marshaling a closed cult of rabid maniacs who will only damage the manosphere (they are no actual threat in terms of revolution but they can harm US immeasurably).

    Do as I do with half of your comments Ya, scroll on by if you don’t have time or inclination to read them. But don’t tell me to chill out or that I’m looking for a hugbox, as you only

    I’m happy to get back to discussing how to get laid any time.

    Roosh is scum. Period.

  • newlyaloof

    @Scribble, dude, you are off your meds. Your writing shows you’re well read, but you act like some of my college professors like you are the most well-read mofo in a universe of ignoramuses, and now you have ONE black relative through marriage after 50+ years of living a pasty white life and that gives you the right to be judge and jury of people’s racial motivations here – PEOPLE YOU’VE NEVER MET IN PERSON.

    You admit it yourself. You are fired up about this racial issue – but too much for your own good. You are becoming an intolerable outrage machine bro. You just seem to not want to accept any answer other than Rollo is a closet racist. Emotions are never wrong, and you’re are made up, so move on dude. Why continue to comment on a racist’s site?

    With all your smarts, you’ve let your emotions get the best of you and turn admirers against you. Now you’re the smartest man in the room – a room nobody wants to enter with you. Sad too because I learn a lot from you.

  • contrarian

    @kfg: thank you sir. excellent article.
    Gentlemen, we live in a ‘castration culture’. It is official. Emotional, psychological and,if we fail to advocate, physical. It is time to monitor media for ‘inciting hatred and/or violence’ against men. Prison rape jokes, bobbit references, etc, etc ad infinitum. It is verbal violence. Having pushed this envelope, history informs me it will be pushed further. We need to end it. Right now.

    We must watch and act. This is not satire or grandstanding. We need to set up a 501(c) or some relevant number in order to incorporate and advocate.
    Genital-based hatred is simply wrong and indicative of a double-standard.
    I forget who did it but someone, somewhere used hate laws in an incredibly innovative way and it blew peoples socks off. If someone could refresh me I would be very grateful.
    Thanks again kfg.
    P.S. I know this seems off on a tangent but its a face palm moment for me. Their goal is to psychologically and emotionally castrate us. It strikes at our very essence as men. I see no evidence of a rape culture but plenty for a castration culture. No I’m not rooshing this issue-nice verb eh?-I really believe I could pull a Foxman-another good one-and quantify this enough to build a good case. Perhaps a class action……..

  • Wild Man

    @scribblerg:

    I actually like reading you here because the controversy you constantly stir up is fun to watch (and participate in once in a while). You said:

    “Either you are for comity in the secular, egalitarian civic space our founders envisioned or you are not”.

    I wouldn’t present it in such a binary fashion, but otherwise you do allude to an important point. The egalitarian mindset does have a thing or 2 going for it. I think the egalitarian mindset is conditioned more-so by forebrain. It is a real thing too as constantly borne out by the comments here with regards to equanimity for our fellow humans.

    The egalitarian is not a pariah perspective to scrub from our psyches and also it would be inaccurate to define it in terms of simply being unaware of redpill (i.e – inaccurate to define it as bluepill).

    IMO, a healthy masculine perspective is contingent on an appreciation of the egalitarian (among other appreciations, not the least of which is redpill, of course). It’s about time to be able to discuss the egalitarian/redpill interface here, IMO.

    If you buy my take on this – you have to wonder – what the heck is going on in the forebrain of women wrt the the egalitarian perspective, or egalitatrian-like perspectives? That is fucking mysterious to me.

  • Bromeo

    Lol at glenn, relax brah, sometimes its ok to be wrong

  • thwack

    scribblerg

    February 14th, 2016 at 10:05 am
    Great point about the Arianist 2.0 truth of Islam, the Koran is in large part essentially a rehash of the bible.
    ———————————————————————————————-

    Some Muslims think Christianity was a “patch” for Judaism, and Islam was a “patch” for Christianity; and that makes Islam the ultimate religious “operating system” cause there ain’t gonna be no more “patches”

    Just sayin

  • kfg

    “– what the heck is going on in the forebrain of women wrt the the egalitarian perspective, or egalitatrian-like perspectives?”

    They loath the very idea of it in their hindbrain as an “unnatural act,” a sin against nature itself.

    “That is fucking mysterious to me.”

    You’re welcome.

  • contrarian

    http://thoughtcatalog.com/anne-gus/2014/07/its-time-we-sent-all-short-men-to-the-gas-chambers/

    This a feminazi hate site. It advocates a “final solution” for men under 6′. Guys, could I get some outrage? Ok, I’ll settle for ‘fair and balanced’.

    It’s pretty fair to say that Rollos’ thesis is solid. The ‘outrage brokers’ want crazy….but only a certain varietal sells! Crazed feminists are the audience suckers!
    From what yareally informs me about the jennifer anniston stars in: 6 Million Under 6′

  • Wild Man

    @scribblerg:

    You said:

    “Racism isn’t some unknown new idea we should explore and weigh the merits of. It’s evil. Period – it’s already been weighed, counte measured and found to be immoral.”

    Hey – if we all are racists hindbrain-wise, don’t you think it is a stretch to call it evil? It just is, you can’t expunge it, a person needs to understand it, with their other cognitive powers, and mitigate as appropriate in order to meet their higher level life goals.

    Scribblerg – this type of politically-correct-speak, is at the heart of the matter wrt how we have gone off the rails public-discourse-wise, so as to find ourselves in the quandary we are in now, Feminine Imperative-wise, etc. etc. If we are not allowed to talk about the realities of the challenges we are faced with we will never solve the challenges. Once again – I will point out that the egalitarian mindset as an alternative viewpoint, being mach more nuanced and personal-agency-responsibility-aware than the PC mindset, is much much superior wrt getting a person’s higher level life goals met (and yet the egalitarian mindset it is still fraught with difficulties and deadly cul-de-sacs, but what else better we got?).

  • YaReally

    @hoellenhund2
    “Those words weren’t even printed.”

    lol shit I’m officially old😥

    @scribblerg
    “It’s quite surprising that you and many readers here seem to think that strong opposition to such things is unnecessary.”

    That’s because we aren’t little old ladies clutching our pearls at a troll that’s trolling people lol Should Rollo also make posts declaring that he’s against strangling unicorns because some idiot on the net declares the Red Pill is about strangling unicorns and you’re offended?

    Roosh’s article makes a valid point about how modern society doesn’t encourage girls to act responsibly and often encourages the opposite and that’s causing a lot of damage. EVERYONE ELSE BUT YOU gets this lol It’s the equivalent of making an article about legalizing stealing inside a stranger’s house to help people understand that locking their doors is a good idea to help prevent losing things you own.

    “I’m not sure what kind of moral universe you folks live in,”

    In my universe people discuss controversial things. That’s how all this Red Pill shit that’s helped you turn your life around came to EXIST…people with your mentality would have had Red Pill forums and Rollo’s blog censored and deleted. Perhaps you’d be happier over at reddit’s Blue Pill forum where LITERALLY EVERYTHING we talk about here is considered “evil”.

    “but it surely is not one that aligns with my values.”

    So leave?

    “Many of you are much more like the Puritans”

    You’re the one running around declaring things evil and immoral lol

    @contrarian
    “as an older guy i really had to adjust psychologically to the whole squirting thing. when i first heard/saw it on thenet i was about your age whole flynn effect thing had/is happening due to the whole internet of things and squirting is just one small piece.”

    Jeeze I don’t know, I’ve been assured by the old guys here that they all knew everything about sex back when they were banging cavewomen in their dinosaur caves. 😉 …one of those same old guys, who’s constantly convinced and bragging that he knows everything about everything more than everyone else ever could seems surprised by the information I wrote, which is unusual given that he’s the expert on everything ever and is never ever wrong…except when he’s wrong. lol

    “any thoughts on residual squeamishness?”

    PornHub till you love it. And read chick’s experiences with it to see how much they love it and how amazing it feels to them, might help your brain understand that it’s worth trying to look past the squeamishness. You’re sort of the equivalent of that girl who scrunches her face and avoids swallowing your load when she gives you a BJ and thinks it’s gross and you try to convince her to swallow but she runs to the bathroom to spit it out and gargle mouthwash with a disgusted look on her face…not as fun an experience as a girl who loves swallowing, right? If you had a squeamish girl like that, you’d probably hope that she learns to be un-squeamish about it because it would make the experience more fun to you. So reading that stuff might help lol

    “per all the genetics/race/science stuff. i dont really see why we even need discuss/acknowledge it here”

    It’s all irrelevant to game really, and I don’t care what scribblerg or Rollo’s views on it are.

    What I care about is scribblerg trying to bully Rollo around and demand what content Rollo is allowed or required to write about and that whatever he says has to align with scribblerg’s views OR ELSE. lol

    @scribblerg
    “You are on my turf now.”
    “No dice, bunky. .”

    lol dude, this is the internet. No one is on your “turf”. Are you a rebellious teenager in a leather jacket in a street gang in a bad 70s movie? Because that’s what you sound like when you try to threaten people over the internet like this. I’m telling you this stuff for your own benefit, you look ridiculous and like you don’t understand how the internet works lol

    “I possess at least as much mastery of politics, history and political philosophy”

    lol you need to work on possessing mastery of how the internet works. Hint: getting riled up over a troll makes you look retarded for a guy who’s mastered so much shit.

    “don’t dare to assume you can borrow your authority from PUA and sort me out on this topic”

    lol if you want to play the credentials game I can assure you that I have VASTLY wider social circles of minority friends (from various races to various sexualities, hell I even know some SJWs) and VASTLY more experience with their interracial dating/fucking/marrying/reproducing than you do and they would ALL lol at how upset you are over internet discussions (except the SJWs who would totally be on your side calling everything they don’t like evil).

    You’re in full Braveheart LARP mode right now dude, Rollo can write whatever he wants to whenever he wants to. He doesn’t owe you shit.

    “The whole “tolerance of dissenting views” argument is completely childlike.”

    lol I have buddies who grew up in racist environments and who have racist views. I don’t go along with their shit and I’ll call them out on it now and then, but they’re generally good people and were just raised being exposed to shitty mindsets and don’t have enough life experience in the area to have changed their views. And this might blow your mind but some of them even have genuine close friends who are OF those minorities they look down on. Holy SHIT what’s going on up is down blue is green how is this possible scribblerg has declared everything is black and white how can there be nuances?! lol hell I have minority buddies who are racist against white people (I don’t count to them tho ’cause I’m cool so they don’t mean ME and they know I KNOW they don’t mean me just like they know their buddies with racist views don’t mean them).

    “Racism isn’t some unknown new idea we should explore and weigh the merits of. It’s evil. Period”

    The second you declare anything as “evil. period” you basically lose all credibility lol That’s exactly what the blue pill and SJWs and feminists are saying about you and your manipulating girls in coffee shops and all this red pill information that’s helped you out. You want to tell comedians what they’re allowed to tell jokes about next?

    “If I have to argue that here – it’s you fucks who are morally messed up, not me.”

    So leave. It’ll probably do your blood pressure good to take a break from the internet and calm down if you’re this up in arms. You’re way too worked up about this lol

    I’m not even trying to be an asshole to you, I’m just saying what everyone else is thinking but is too nice to say because they know it’ll trigger you into going on another scribblerg hissyfit. Let the Rollo-hounding go.

    “And Roosh also spews hateful shit about women all the time.”

    Internet troll trolls people, news at 11! According to the mainstream, everything in the Red Pill is misogynistic evil hateful shit about women. How can you be a smart dude in so many areas but be so retarded about this? lol

    “But don’t tell me to chill out”

    So what you’re saying is one user shouldn’t tell another user what he should and shouldn’t do, or should and shouldn’t discuss, hey? I agree. So how about you lay the fuck off Rollo lol He’s already made it clear he isn’t interested in wasting blog space following your demands. Respect that, you’re on HIS turf, bunky! lol

    @newlyaloof
    “You are becoming an intolerable outrage machine bro. You just seem to not want to accept any answer other than Rollo is a closet racist. Emotions are never wrong, and you’re are made up, so move on dude. Why continue to comment on a racist’s site?”

    This. scribblerg’s whole “so tell us Rollo when did you stop beating your wife?” shit is nonsense, get out of here with that “admit you’re a feminist or we’ll decide you must hate women and want to legalize rape” bullshit lol

  • kfg

    Point to Thwack. Some of them also think that the Koran is superior because it is immutable, which is actually a theologically sound point of view, if not exactly factual.

  • Yollo "Intractable" Comanche

    @YaReally

    Hey I have a question for you but I never know who’s watching. Can I e-mail you or leave my question in a tree somewhere?

  • contrarian pt2

    http://thoughtcatalog.com/anne-gus/2014/07/its-time-we-sent-all-short-men-to-the-gas-chambers/

    This a feminazi hate site. It advocates a “final solution” for men under 6′. Guys, could I get some outrage? Ok, I’ll settle for ‘fair and balanced’.

    It’s pretty fair to say that Rollos’ thesis is solid. The ‘outrage brokers’ want crazy….but only a certain varietal sells! Crazed feminists are the audience suckers!
    From what yareally informs me about the jennifer anniston stars in: 6 Million Under 6 Feet

  • kfg

    @Contrarian: “Ok, I’ll settle for ‘fair and balanced’.”

    They can try, but men under 6′ have most of the guns and skill in using them.

    And not every man over 6′ is going to just automatically white knight for the bitch patrol.

  • Wild Man

    @kfg – you said:

    “They (women) loath the very idea of it (the egalitarian mindset) in their hindbrain as an “unnatural act,” a sin against nature itself.”

    Yes – I think I see where you are going with this. I would tend to agree that perhaps normatively women do have a tendency for more of a hate-on for the egalitarian mindset, within their hindbrains, than men do. I think this means that normatively, for women, a stronger impetus for forebrain control is required to overcome this hindbrain routine. And furthermore I think the hierarchy of signalling within the forebrain of women in this respect is different than men (i.e – for women, more nuanced, more diffuse, and less hierarchical inputs from other brain centers).

    If you buy this, then the precise point I am interested in is – what does the resulting forebrain activated egalitarian-like mindest feel like for women?

  • YaReally

    @Yollo
    Nope, I don’t do private convos or have an E-Mail address. Opens too many floodgates of guys all thinking their situation is special and unique and they need my help to fix it lol Nothing you ask me should be specific enough to get you in trouble. If you’re asking about “this one special girl from the HR department at the rocket science building I work at in California who shared an ice cream cone from the Ice Cream Eatery on Ice Cream Blvd with me Tuesday night and how do I get her?” your question is way too specific and the answers are already in Red Pill material in general. Something like that could be asked like “this girl from work and I shared lunch and how do I get her?” where it’s generic enough to not identify you and my advice would probably be the same as if I knew all the details.

    Throw it up under a random account name and with everything super generalized and anonymous and ask the vaguest version of your question and maybe my answer to that will be enough to help you figure it out.

  • contrarian

    @yareally
    powerful metaphor.
    To me it was similiarish to the time i saw a colt born. Best I can describe it. Awe, shock, tad grossed out. Not easy to describe. Bear in mind some of us grew up extremely catholic. I went to sunday school and had a nun who had a picture of reagan under jesus.

    Give an old dude a break. My jaw dropped when a girl told me about being double penetrated. This was back when most had no internet. I had no frame of reference. The world was different. You grew up with it. We didnt. We had playboy and hustler if lucky.
    Abortion was illegal here.
    Very different world ya. ….and it’s gone. This is why I understand a culture like iran or afghanistan. They look at us and chills of fear and disgust roll down their spines. Not agreeing with them. I just get it at a gut level.
    Not sure about some of your comments. Critique away.

  • Rollo Tomassi

    @Scribb, take Roosh out of the thought experiment of making rape legal on private property. Lets say I had written it or an ardent anti-feminist like Christina Hoff-Summers, someone whom you don’t think is a piece of shit or is basically neutral – does that change the interpretation of the experiment?

    Another ‘experiment’ that’s been suggested by Roosh, AVfM and others is encouraging secretly recording video of any and every sexual encounter a man has with a woman to ensure that any false rape claim has its circumstances documented. Technically this is a crime and an invasion of privacy, but there’ve been several instances where exactly this recording has reversed a false rape allegation.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/due-process-neil-macdonald-1.3446739

    Jian Gomeshi appears to have had the foresight enough to hang on to virtually every text, email and handwritten note exchange he had with the women accusing him of rape. Some of these are 5-6 years old. Should this private evidence be admissible in a court of law? Should men need to be litigious to the point where they need to document every exchange and interaction they have with a woman and retain it for 12 years in case a woman retroactively accuses him of rape?

    Those are thought experiments. Yes Means Yes is an actual law that is enforceable on college campuses and soon to a larger society that’s inspiring these contingent thought experiments. Should we even be discussing these contingencies or does doing so constitute misogyny?

    Assemblyman Troy Singleton wants to introduce a bill that would make misrepresenting oneself as a means to sex to be rape-by-fraud:

    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/11/rape_by_fraud_nj_lawmaker_introduces_bill_to_make_it_a_crime.html

    “I truly believe that we have to look at the issue of rape as more than sexual contact without consent,” Singleton said. “Fraud invalidates any semblance of consent just as forcible sexual contact does. This legislation is designed to provide our state’s judiciary with another tool to assess situations where this occurs and potentially provide a legal remedy to those circumstances.”

    If I disagree with this, am I a misogynist?

  • hoellenhund2

    Roosh’s article makes a valid point about how modern society doesn’t encourage girls to act responsibly and often encourages the opposite and that’s causing a lot of damage.

    That article reminded me of something that I’m not sure was pointed out during this controversy (I wasn’t following all this fake outrage). Until recently, the legal concept of marital rape didn’t exist anywhere in the West. No court would find any husband guilty of raping his wife. Guilty of domestic violence or assault, yes, but not rape. Today this is dismissed as an example of patriarchal barbarism, and it’s an idea that is very similar to the one that Roosh satirically advocated. And yet, this has been the legal norm for centuries in the most advanced societies in the world as well. What do we make of this? Were Western legislators and judges all barbarians until, say, 1980? Is that how we should now interpret the past?

    Another parallel is the Supreme Court decision that makes any law banning homosexual marriage unconstitutional. This is the equivalent of declaring that American legislators and judges have been wrong since the beginning. They violated the very constitution they founded. This interpretation of history is downright bizarre.

  • YaReally

    @contrarian
    lol I’m just buggin ya. My buddies who are from other more reserved cultures/upbringings went through the same shit when they started learning about Red Pill stuff. Just a total mindfuck.

    This is a great site to fuck with your head lol:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/CuteModeSlutMode/

    Reality is it’s gonna be a shock to the system at first, but the more time you spend around it (even through porn etc) the more desensitized you get. If it helps, it’s not pee lol It’s pretty much a thinner/watery version of the same stuff you get in your mouth when you go down on her.

    If you don’t want to make a mess etc try doing it in the shower where it’ll all just wash away under the water, until you get comfortable…just make sure you hold onto her and have some grips on the bathtub bottom so she doesn’t fall and hit her head or anything when her knees buckle lol

    But WARNING: don’t do it in like, a bathtub…shoving/sucking water up her pussy (like fucking her in and out while submerged in water) can apparently flat out literally KILL a chick. So try it kneeling or standing under water pouring down from a showerhead if you want to give it a go without as much mess…but you’ll have a trickier time creating a romantic atmosphere for her mind to relax and let go that way lol Light some candles and throw on some sexy music?

    @Rollo
    “Another ‘experiment’ that’s been suggested by Roosh, AVfM and others is encouraging secretly recording video of any and every sexual encounter a man has with a woman to ensure that any false rape claim has its circumstances documented. Technically this is a crime and an invasion of privacy, but there’ve been several instances where exactly this recording has reversed a false rape allegation.”

    I recommend this shit to dudes all the time. When I get my finances set I’ll be setting up solid security recording shit of everything that happens in my apartment. Would rather be in front of a jury for recording without consent than for a false rape accusation and in the case of an FRA I would just blast the videos all over the net to clear my name regardless of what happens to me in court or what penalties that would add.

    “Assemblyman Troy Singleton wants to introduce a bill that would make misrepresenting oneself as a means to sex to be rape-by-fraud:”

    lol can’t wait to sue a chick for wearing a push-up bra.

    “If I disagree with this, am I a misogynist?”

    I don’t know why I try to defend you, you always do just fine serving haters up on your own lol❤

  • Anonymous Reader

    Scibblerg
    Either you are for comity in the secular, egalitarian civic space our founders envisioned or you are not

    Which founders are you referring to, here?

    The whole:
    “Either you are with me or you are against me!!!!!!!!!!”.
    reeks of butthurt.

    Plus the:
    “If you will not denounce what I order you denounce, when I order you to denounce it, then I will denounce YOU” tone is more appropriate to an SJW forum than anywhere men discuss things.

    Scribblerg, you are beginning to remind me of an aging, dying man I once knew who had become bitter about everything and everyone. A few friends stuck around him to the end, but most people just didn’t want to be around him after a while, and he did get very lonely.

    Where did your social skills go, man? This whole Aspie “I”m right and all the rest of you are wrong because I’m right” isn’t working. Just saying.

  • c

    @monsieur hund
    It is history. The Cultural Marxists are making a new herstory, creating their Brave New World.
    The narrative is: we were barbarians but now we’ve evolved.
    progress.forward.nothing to see
    rape culture. hate speech. tyranny is freedom. prepare for menocide

  • Sun Wukong

    I’ll just leave this here.

  • Yollo "Intractable" Comanche

    @YaReally

    Silly me. Though your answer is just as useful. Thank you all the same.

  • Yollo "Intractable" Comanche

    @YaReally

    Actually this might be better. How do you balance red pill life principles with FI women? Do you seduce every woman so you can hold frame? Or do you just let them do what they will around you, resting in that you always have the option to do what you will as well? Are you ever run out of town for having differing views on human sexuality? How do you blend in with people, say, in a work or social(Nerds/Squares) club?

  • rugby11

    Yes means NO

    GETs IT

  • contrarian

    @yareally:appreciate the advice. For safety purposes I will stick to a bed and get waterproof sheets.
    Gimme shit anytime!
    The reason I”m a prick on economics is cause of a profound experience I had with an economics prof who was a gold standard historian. He saw things over a long span. Saw chicago school weaknesses and showed me long cycles.
    I actually challenged him as to why I got a question wrong on a test.
    Me: ‘You can’t resell pizza!!’
    Professor: Says who?
    Me: It violates health codes!?!
    Prof: That never stopped anyone.
    Me: Whose gonna eat pizza from a dumpster?
    Prof: You dont think people will eat from a dumpster?

    Somehow I knew this guy had been in a concentration camp. No idea how I knew it. I just did. I was speechless. I got up and left.
    He later wrote me a great recommendation.
    Learned a fundamental truth from that guy: people will do anything to survive. I bet he never saw a woman squirt.

    Thanks ya

    @rollo: is this whole critique of men in europe-apres rapefugees-not the ultimate output of a castration culture? Attack masculinity. Degrade it. Bemoan its non-existence. It is a reinforcing dynamic. Criticize. Berate. Legislate. Rage. Ridicule. Wash. Repeat. The ultimate insanity.
    It is reflected in total fertility rates is it not? If people f$ck enough, children occur. The West is not replacing itself. I dont believe it is just money and birth control. If men have been emotionally castrated then women feel unfulfilled. An unfulfilled women will not go off the pill and have 2-4 kids. This is our social policy and it is a total failure. How can the social policy academics not be raising this issue of population replacement with Home Office, Ministers of the Interior, etc?
    Can they not see that this is a societal crisis? Do they have no long term plan? Are election cycles so short that it doesnt matter?
    The reason I say this is that elites have to justify their existence or lose complete credibility. Perhaps that is why this is happening……they are incompetent and irrespondsible. Hence outbursts of populism across the west.

  • YaReally

    @Yollo
    “How do you balance red pill life principles with FI women?”

    “Do you seduce every woman so you can hold frame?”

    I don’t really get into situations where women would have an effect on my frame. If someone brings up a topic that I have controversial views on I’ll either let them have their conversation and keep a low profile during it, or tell them what they want to hear. They can’t possibly understand the frame I view the world through and everyone will favor their views over mine. I have no interest in getting into a discussion about Hypergamy with like, a group of girls and blue pill guys at the office on my lunch hour.

    “Or do you just let them do what they will around you, resting in that you always have the option to do what you will as well?”

    What they do doesn’t matter to me. Casual acquaintances don’t need to know anything about my sex life or views, I don’t need to prove anything to them or convince them of anything, especially when the risks are so high.

    “Are you ever run out of town for having differing views on human sexuality?”

    The people I share those views with are the people I trust who, whether they agree with me or not, don’t judge me on my views and wouldn’t run me out of town. Anyone who isn’t that type of person isn’t hearing about my views. It’s the same mechanic as why girls pretend to be “good girls”…they don’t KNOW whether a guy they’ve just met will judge them or not for having an N-count, but the consequences of being judged are so high to them that they’ll err on the side of assuming by default that the guy will judge them and put on the good girl act to be safe, until that guy has demonstrated very blatantly and congruently that he won’t judge her and she can open up and admit shit trusting that she won’t be judged. I assume everyone is blue pill and FI-brainwashed until they prove multiple times that they aren’t and even then I don’t share much about my views because I don’t need to…if I want to discuss them I have a few very close buddies or anonymous internet forums to discuss them with like-minded men.

    “How do you blend in with people, say, in a work or social(Nerds/Squares) club?”

    http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.ca/2011/05/law-38-think-as-you-like-but-behave.html

    Be like Bruce Wayne around other people and be Batman on your own time. Unless you WANT drama and to risk your career/relationships/safety/etc lol

  • Yollo "Bat Man" Comanche

    @YaReally

    Thank you Ra’s. I will be be mindful of my surroundings.

  • DocG

    See, Glenn, when your bipolar meds are properly dosed, you are beginning to notice the reality as is and not as your psychopathic buddies here tell you it is.

    But you’re not there yet, so maybe continue to fudge around with the dosing for some time.

    Meanwhile, I’ll try to speed up your education.

    The one and only reason Rollo is so concerned about Roosh’s growing infamy is his little-bitch-like jealousy. If you stopped sucking his dick for more than a minute, and took a break from choking on his pseudo-intellectual uber-misogynist effluvia, you’d see that, because unlike the rest of the narcissistic psychopaths here, you have, surprisingly, retained some moral core, small and limp as it is.

    Rollo’s is a passive-aggressive little prick, pathologically jealous of others’ success and afraid of direct confrontation. He’s playing an online alpha to deal with the emasculation inflicted by the fact that his wife, who is the breadwinner in the Tomassi household, wears the pants and calls all the shots. She is a good woman, tho. She lets him play a man online, while she works to support the family, because she knows that her little boy with his high-pitched, adolescent voice needs it to feel manly good about himself somehow. But I digress.

    This passive-aggressive jealousy is why Rollo so diligently and gleefully retweets Roosh-the-Doosh’s troubles, but does so under the too transparent guise of his “concern” over the manosphere. Fucking BS, which you’d notice if you stopped guzzling. It is obvious to anyone who’s not similarly engaged how much Rollo enjoys every calamity that befalls the Doosh (all of which, and more, are well deserved, if you ask me).

    Once your meds are fixed, and you break off the guzzle cycle, you will also notice that Rollo is as misogynist as Roosh, if not more.

    Your blindness to it is laughable — and strange, given how clearly you can see it in the Doosh. You lose your shit over racism, but misogyny, including your own, is fucking cool — at least until your meds kick in.

    That Rollo spews his misogyny with a calm pretense of sciencyness and through semi-nonsensical intellectualizations, easily dismantled by any high school student, does not make him any less misogynist. His idiot followers swallow it whole, because swallowing without question is what they do and because it confirms in their addled little brains that women are the reason why their lives are shit. This is, by the way, why women continue to reject them. Red pill (and not) psychopathic misogyny, redundant as the term is, tends to repel normal women. The only ones attracted to it are borderlines and histrionics, which should give you a clue about the caliber of women who may be with you and on whose behavior you base your AWALT conclusions.

    I suspect if you stepped away from this cesspool for a while, it’d be easier for you to see it. Or not. ZFG either way. As far as I’m concerned, if you are a misogynist narcissistic psychopath and/or throw your lot with misogynist narcissistic psychopaths who peddle misogynist narcissistic psychopathy as the way of life, you deserve all that’s coming to you and more, while the rest of us will laugh and clap. Although you, unlike the others here, may be able to decide what side you’re gonna be on. Once your meds are adjusted, it should be easier.

    BTW, it’s fucking hilarious how nobody here noticed that Mark Minter, another online alpha wannabe made possible by his ex and current wives’ generous financial support, was posting under his wife’s name a few weeks back, peddling her new site — where she gives fucking “advice” to boys…

    Can’t make this shit up. There is no fool like a red pill fool. If you are a hateful idiot who cannot find your own ass with your own two hands, but keeps blaming everyone else for it and abusing them to exact revenge for the self-inflicted shitstream that’s your life, you deserve everything karmic coming to you. While the rest of us watch and munch on popcorn.

  • DocG

    @hoellenhund2:

    this has been the legal norm for centuries in the most advanced societies in the world as well. What do we make of this? Were Western legislators and judges all barbarians until, say, 1980? Is that how we should now interpret the past?

    Yes. That’s what we call progress: admitting that people other than white males are human beings too, and not property to be used, and changing our laws accordingly. Same reason why we no longer think slavery and lynchings are good things, something that has not been quite obvious and reflected in our laws until early-to-middle of the last century, and it is still not clear to psychopaths and other shitbags early in this one. Civilized human beings can grasp that, tho.

    But you keep on wondering. There is no chance of you figuring it out, given the limitations imposed on you by your personality disorder, which is why the rest of the world laughs their asses off or shakes its collective head while looking at you. By you I mean red pill narcissistic psychopaths, in case it is not clear.

  • Betathrowaway

    @YaReally,

    Advice and recommended homework for a soon-to-be divorced mid 30’s BP AFC that has trouble building initial attraction? Often been accused of being too analytical (very true) and coming off as asexual (frustrating as fuck!)
    I’m fairly good looking, tall and in good shape. My inner game is shit though. And my kino is not smooth. When you talk about poaching chicks from bigger, better looking dudes, I’m that chump!

    Other commenters welcome to chime in as well.

  • Sun Wukong

    @DocG

    You’re so jelly about Rollo getting attention you can’t even just ignore him and get on with your life. Here, have a sandwich:

    Love me some irony.

  • Anonymous Reader

    Doc Gynocentric:
    That Rollo spews his misogyny with a calm pretense of sciencyness and through semi-nonsensical intellectualizations, easily dismantled by any high school student, does not make him any less misogynist

    But honey, you’ve never been able to dismantle any of the truths about women. Not even once. For all your bluenosed passive-aggressive Big Sibling posing, you’ve never dented any of the truths discussed here. Are you still on Xanax, or has your Gyn changed your post menopausal medications again in the hope of stabilizing you out of depression?

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