Just a quick reminder here, Niko and I will be doing the Red Pill Monthly livestream this Friday morning. February 12th at 10 am PST. Last time was kind a of a dry run for us and people wanted some advance notice so they can participate in the live chat so here it is.
I have to do these as my schedule permits, so this time slot is by no means going to be a regular thing. Hopefully it works for everyone this month.
We’ll of course be discussing current events in the ‘sphere, but also some foundational Red Pill stuff, as well as taking questions live. If there’s something you’d like us to consider please feel free to leave your comment or question about it in today’s thread.
The link will be until Saturday.
@Forge the Sky on and SJF, Appreciate the responses. I actually have read quite a bit of rational male and yareally’s archive, as well as no more Mr nice guy. They have certainly helped. I do feel overwhelmed though when I realize how much work there is to do. The theoretical aspect of RP is very digestible to me. On Myers Briggs, closest to ISTJ. What would help me is something like a set of fundamentals. “Work on X and Y to start”. “Worry about Y and Z later”. ” Here’s the best place to study X and Y” When… Read more »
“When I go out, I do okay getting a friendly vibe.”
and
“when I try to sexualize the conversation, the reactions I get are shocked,”
Are linked. chum. Don’t start out with a friendly vibe. Throw away the friendly vibe. Anything but a friendly vibe!
I’m assuming though you mean shocked in a negative way, like they are not surprised, they are offended kind of shocked.
An easy way to sexualize things right off the bat… when she asks your name (you are waiting for her to ask you right?) and extends her hand, extend back an index finger and a smirk.
@SJF, I have read a lot of RP material, mostly the sidebar for Married Red Pill, posts in their forum and Rational Male. Over the last few months, I have made significant improvements in lifting, dieting, dressing, and am making a career change that will pay off in the long term. But my game with women had not made commensurate gains. When I see the stuff you guys are discussing here it’s a lot more advanced than the shit I need to work on. Like you guys are discussing drop sets and super sets and I’m just trying to not… Read more »
“When I go out, I do okay getting a friendly vibe. But when I try to sexualize the conversation, the reactions I get are shocked, like they had me pegged as a safe beta from a mile away.” Give some examples of your conversations. What did you say to evoke Beta?What exactly did you say that pegged you as a safe beta? Don’t be a safe beta. Shocked is sometimes good. Insecurity in the woman is sometimes good. Friendly is not so good. Were you confident and congruent in your statements? Were you outcome independent or were you trying to… Read more »
” When I see the stuff you guys are discussing here it’s a lot more advanced than the shit I need to work on. Like you guys are discussing drop sets and super sets and I’m just trying to not drop the fucking dumbbell on my foot.” So you can’t hit home runs. So what. Play small ball. Hit a single or stretch a double. And then do it again. This stuff is not advanced. It is what no one ever told you. It is the way of men. Before noise got in the milieu. Do not over analyze this… Read more »
“I have made significant improvements in lifting, dieting, dressing, and am making a career change that will pay off in the long term. But my game with women had not made commensurate gains.” Your career change is infinitely more important than game. You need mastery and skill and resources. Do it for you. Game is a side-light. It is not hard when you have mastery over it. Make your hurdles be smaller in gaming women. Don’t give a fuck about not hitting a home run and learn Game skills. Get in your head the fundamentals, but don’t be in your… Read more »
ISTJ, hmmm. You are totally fucked in PUA. Therefore you need to rebuild. The thing is you can totally rebuild. You have to face your fears and buck your personality traits to get laid while single. Stop thinking your woman needs comfort. I can see you trying to build comfort and then dropping a sexualizing bomb on a prospective woman. And then her reaction is WTF? She doesn’t want comfort in a beta male. You are tall and good looking. Do not build comfort on initiation, drive anxiety. Your first order of business is not to get into a LTR… Read more »
“Over the last few months, I have made significant improvements in lifting, dieting, dressing, and am making a career change that will pay off in the long term. But my game with women had not made commensurate gains.”
YahReally?
@betathrowaway How’s your body language? Mine was unremarkable until I actively took steps to display alpha body language. I get off the charts IOIs everywhere I go. Read these articles: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/standing-like-an-alpha/ https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/alpha-body-language/ https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/what-you-can-learn-from-a-beta/ https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/body-language/ Shit is pure fucking gold. A few things to always keep in mind: 1. NEVER cross your hands in your lap or ESPECIALLY in front of your junk. 2. Try to occupy as much space as you can whenever you stand or sit anywhere (don’t go overboard though lol). 3. When you sit, lean back with a smirk like you’re a king enjoying the atmosphere in… Read more »
Can you link to the articles were the women refer to the best they ever had verses the one they settled for!!!!
@Hegelian
New here? Look for “Save the Best” in the search bar. Then read year one and year two. All of it.
@SJF Your Meyers Briggs link was pretty spot on. I know I have a lot of rewiring to do. “ISTJ, hmmm. You are totally fucked in PUA. Therefore you need to rebuild. The thing is you can totally rebuild. You have to face your fears and buck your personality traits to get laid while single. Stop thinking your woman needs comfort. I can see you trying to build comfort and then dropping a sexualizing bomb on a prospective woman. And then her reaction is WTF? She doesn’t want comfort in a beta male. You are tall and good looking. Do… Read more »
betathrowaway – lots of good advice here, but since you asked for absolute basics: 1. Read/watch the *minimum* basic resources mentioned by YaReally in his “basics” post on the archive. 2. Go out to a bar/nightclub (you don’t have to wait till you finish going through all the resources in (1) above) and start conversations with 10 girls and try to chat to them for as long as possible. If you get a bad reception or the conversation fizzles out, leave, but just make an effort to stay chatting. It literally doesn’t matter what you say: “Hello, I wanted to… Read more »
@betathrowaway “When I go out, I do okay getting a friendly vibe. But when I try to sexualize the conversation, the reactions I get are shocked, like they had me pegged as a safe beta from a mile away.” You need to be more polarizing from the start (which is why I’d tell you to go practice in bars/clubs even in another city if you have one nearby, where you aren’t shitting where you eat because until you learn to calibrate it you WILL very likely weird girls out at first). The jist is that it’s better to step up… Read more »
Here is Ya’s links to products and order
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/04/01/essenbetenficken/#comment-659661
for Betathrowaway ^^^
@betathrowaway @Sentient These days my Newbie Guide would be this: – Mystery Method (I prefer the seminar where he teaches it over the PDF, I like Mystery’s passion for what he’s teaching, the vids were on YouTube at some point…Magic Bullets is a more brief version of MM if you want the tl;dr version of it) – Liam Mcrae’s Rapid Escalation video on YouTube – Richard LaRuina Formula For Night Game on YouTube (specifically 27:00 to 50:00) – RSDJulien’s SHIFT (internal game/mindsets/beliefs) – and RSDJulien’s PIMP (external game aka shit to execute infield) – and if you just want overall… Read more »
@yareally long time lurker of your material – really appreciate the time and effort you put into your posts – I’m sure I’m one of many that continue to get A1 insights from you. Current situation that I’m in but watered down as to not include too many specifics. I was originally seeing this girl from a different city in a non-monogamous fashion and set it up that way thanks to your guides. I’m moving to that city soon and things are starting to turn monogamous. Basically we are not dating but agreed to not see other people. Recently I… Read more »
@YaReally I’ve read Magic bullets up until they started talking about hair and looks. That book says it’s important. You typically say it isn’t. What am I missing here? Is it that game and what it will take for me to get good at it should leave me where I can compete and win? Or is having a look a mandatory thing? I imagine it is, since it helps people to identify with me better. But what’s your take on that? Where does looks land? For example, in Magic bullets they tell you you should shave your head if your… Read more »
@Yollo – I’m not YaReally (obviously), but I did do a Mystery Method course way back in the day and I think they are just coming at looks from the “you may as well improve everything you can” angle, which is fine.
It doesn’t mean it is absolutely crucial or necessary etc. Not in conflict with anything YaReally says if you read the lengthy screeds on this – there was a particularly long thread a couple of months ago where he gets into the looks issue in detail.
@Samsonite “I’m moving to that city soon and things are starting to turn monogamous.” No, things don’t just “turn” monogamous. That’s chick-language, it “just happened” to avoid accountability. You LET things turn monogamous. It’s important to understand that you helped get yourself into the situation you’re in so that next time you don’t allow it to happen. “Basically we are not dating but agreed to not see other people.” Like my guide says: most guys are too in scarcity to risk losing the girl so they’ll agree to monogamy instead of holding their ground, and then it blows up in… Read more »
@YaReally I recognize the self-love in their words. I also notice their looks reflect that self-care. Julien is telling the truth after all. All that’s left is for my insides and outsides to catch up with my idea for my own life….Thank you so much. These guys can sell nerd! But they’re not normal nerds at all. They really believe, or seem like that to the girls, that the girls would love to spend time with them. The nerds I used to belong with were the sexless, self-hating types that passive aggressively try to one-up…..ugh you know? Man I need… Read more »
@yareally
What??! I find this hard to believe, considering how many people have sex in swimming pools or jacuzzis. I once knew a couple that had sex 10m below the surface of the sea, with full scuba gear on.
A quick google turns up some possible risks, but nothing lethal:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/07/22/sex-in-the-water_n_5607095.html
benfromtexas
I think it would be a good discussion for both of you guys to discuss “filtering” women. What are the best traits to look for.
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Tennis, roller blades and kayaks will filter out the fat lazy girls.
Well the other guys got ya sorted here @betathrowaway. Don’t skip your FR’s, be hoping to hear from ya soon! 🙂
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