Widows & Warbrides

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I received the following Tweet from a reader this week:

Hi Rollo, thanks for all of your amazing work. I think one topic that you have not touched upon in detail is the conflict between alpha widowhood and war bride dynamic. If women are constitutionally inclined to move on, then how can they remain sad about their ex alpha lovers? Even if alpha’s SMV was much higher than her, isn’t the whole point of the war bride dynamic is to enable a woman to move on and reproduce without lingering thoughts of her former lovers? This happened to me recently when I had to end a relationship due to unacceptable logistics (long distance). What followed was extreme anxiety on her part about losing me. So this contradicted with what I always hear about women moving on easily.

This was a great question, and one I haven’t addressed before (no, I haven’t written everything), so I thought I’d pick this one apart today.

The TL;DR version is this: Women only ‘widow’ for men that made an Alpha impression on them. If their previous Alpha was somehow ‘killed’ and replaced by a lesser man, their hindbrains resist that man’s authority over her while using her previous Alpha as the lesser man’s SMV (sexual market value) benchmark. In the most extreme examples, a woman who’s been forced to accept the authority of a lesser man who defeated her former Alpha will resist him and/or plot revenge for the idealized lover.

Historical accounts and various cultural fiction are rife with this archetypal story. The woman who is married off to a lesser man or becomes the War Bride of an undeserving rival (usually by subterfuge or sinister means) is an archetype because it reflects women’s deepest evolutionary, existential, fear – to have her Hypergamous sexual selection strategy forcibly chosen for her by a man (or men) who are undeserving or are suboptimal breeding prospects. As I mentioned, this is an existential fear for women; anything less than unilateral control over her own Hypergamous destiny is tantamount to rape. The fear is that she will spend her life raising the child(ren) of a suboptimal man.

War Brides

The premise of the War Brides dynamic is thus: Evolution selected for women who could more easily transition psychologically from one dominant male to another. In our chaotic ancestral past women and girls were a commodity to be preserved for a conquering tribe. While men or boys were either killed or enslaved, fertile age women would be preserved as spoils of conquest for superior, invading, men. Simply put, women have reproductive value – men (and often their sons) were mostly obstacles in the way of resource acquisition and those reproductive opportunities.

That may seem like a bleak proposition to a Blue Pill conditioned mind today. We want to believe in some egalitarian dream of humanism and cooperation, but our evolved, ancestral past is responsible for what we are today in terms of base biological and psychological imperatives. I first proposed this theory in War Brides:

“Evolution has largely selected-for human females with a capacity to form psychological schema that preserve their psyches from what would otherwise afflict them with debilitating anxiety, guilt, and the stresses resulting from being continuously aware of their own behavioral incongruities. Evolution selects-for solipsistic women who are blissfully unaware of their solipsism.”

A lot of critics of the Red Pill make two key mistakes in their assessment of basic truths. One is that we don’t fully consider the dynamic, and/or two, we think too much about it. The fundamentals we consider about female nature, with respect to women’s psyches, are rooted in our evolutionary past. So, when I deconstruct certain aspects of that nature I have to ask the question, “why would a dynamic be something beneficial to women and/or our species on whole?” When I consider Hypergamy, female solipsism, women’s collectivist mindset, or any number of other characteristics the question I’m going to ask is why is this dynamic still present in modern women, and what are the outcomes of that dynamic in today’s environment?

Look at the obesity epidemic in western cultures today. 68% of adults in the U.S. are overweight today and 34% are morbidly obese. Childhood obesity is at an all time high. Evolutionarily speaking this is the result of how our metabolism evolved to solve certain environmental challenges we faced. Back then food was scarce. Finding a way to insure we fed ourselves and our tribe was at a premium and our biology adapted to give us the best chance of survival. Today this metabolism is a liability in an environment where food is plentiful and what we need to do to get it is much less strenuous. That’s the quick way to illustrate what I’m getting at in the War Brides dynamic:

Given the harsh realities that women had to endure since the Paleolithic era, it served them better to psychologically evolve a sense of self that was more resilient to the brutal changes she could expect to be subjected to. Consider the emotional investment a woman needs to put into mothering a child that could be taken away or killed at a moment’s notice. Anxiety, fear, guilt, insecurity are all very debilitating emotions, however it’s women’s innate psychology that makes them more durable to these stresses. Statistically, men have far greater difficulty in coping with psychological trauma (think PTSD) than women. Why should that be? On the face of it you may think that men’s better ability to rationally remove themselves from the emotional would make them better at coping with psychological trauma, but the reverse is actually the case. Women seem to have a better ability to accept emotional sacrifice and move on, either ignoring those stresses or blocking them entirely from their conscious awareness. Women possessing a more pronounced empathic capacity undoubtedly served our species in nurturing young and understanding tribal social dynamics, however it was also a liability with regards to a hostile change in her environment. Stockholm Syndrome is far more pronounced in female captives, why should that be? Because women’s ancestral environment dictated the need to develop psychological mechanisms to help them survive. It was the women who could make that emotional disconnect when the circumstances necessitated it who survived and lived to breed when their tribe was decimated by a superior force. This is also known as the War Bride dynamic; women develop an empathy with their conquerors by necessity.

So how does this relate to the Alpha Widow dynamic? Let’s parse that out a bit.

Alpha Widows

Alpha Widows are women who’ve had an Alpha man in their past make such an impression upon them that any man that comes along after him must essentially fight with that impression in order to replace him as the optimal Alpha in her life. This is usually the man a woman pines for from her Party Years. Often he’s the first guy who ever fulfilled her Hypergamous dance card. Generally, this man is at least her perceptual ideal of the sexual selection criteria she was prioritizing during that phase of her life. Usually this guy is her sexual ideal as well. That sexual impact forms a strong psychological attachment because the memories of the sex she had are associated with hormonal triggers. The memories of a significant Alpha male are enough to prompt a physical arousal response in women.

Furthermore, that Alpha impact is so significant it can alter her future sexual strategy for every man who comes after him. This is one reason women generally have a Plan B man on hold should that Alpha ideal not present himself, or should he not be ‘tamable‘ by her in the long term. Women’s long term sexual strategies tend to be punctuated by holding out for their ‘soul mate’ who also happened to be the best sex she’d ever had. Lesser men who follow in his wake are simply contingency plans. In today’s feminine-primary social order, where women are encouraged ‘never to settle for less than they deserve‘, we see generations of women experiencing the consequences of this Alpha widowhood. In fact, we go to great efforts societally to placate to it, to lessen the impact of it, and to plan contingencies for it.

But where does that leave us?

One reason I detailed the War Brides dynamic in my earliest writing was because I’d had so many men ask me this question; ‘Why is it that women can so easily move on after a breakup? We were together for years and it’s like she never even knew me now!‘ The ugly, visceral truth of this is that women are far less convicted to feel remorse, guilt or shame over abandoning (Beta) men who didn’t meet their Hypergamous ideal. We all know the stories of the ‘ride or die‘ girl who would literally do anything for her man. I once had a reader link me a story about a woman who stole a police car whose arrested boyfriend was handcuffed in the back seat. There are definitely women who will help their man bury the bodies. However, that man almost universally is that woman’s Hypergamous, Alpha ideal. And this is where the power of Hypergamy comes into the equation.

Women’s prime reproductive imperative is consolidating in the long term on a man who best embodies her Hypergamous ideal. Even now I’m not sure readers really understand the influence Hypergamy has over women. Even factoring in the War Brides dynamic, there will always be women who will literally kill for a man who best exemplifies what she believes is (or was) the best she could ever do Hypergamously.

I covered some of this in SMV Ratios & Attachment. Hypergamy influences women’s concept of love, so much so that it forms the basis of who they will allow themselves to feel ‘love’ for when it comes to reproductive opportunities. If a man embodies this Alpha ideal no substitute will replace him, unless another man exceeds the previous man’s Alpha impact.

So, how does this modify the War Brides dynamic? Hypergamous imperatives can supersede the War Brides phenomenon in that it incentivizes women to mate guard and even kill a rival to preserve a long term reproductive opportunity with an idealized Alpha man. We can add layers of social and moral doctrines to this (marriage, tribe, religion), but it’s all really embellishments or a cover story for what’s really a biological phenomenon.

Women who monogamously pair with Beta men are far less motivated to feel remorse over that man’s death or replacement by a more Alpha rival. This is where the War Brides dynamic comes in full. Hypergamy never seeks its own level and if a woman’s lesser man is defeated by more Alpha rival this only gives her a better excuse for pivoting into that superior man’s Frame. That may seem duplicitous and self-serving, but this is the ugly, visceral truth, remember? The inverse of this is that Hypergamy dictates that women will only become Alpha Widows for worthy (Alpha) men – and sometimes even the fantasy of that ideal man is enough to replace a lesser man.

So, it follows that the degree to which a woman becomes an Alpha Widow or more easily adopts a War Brides mentality is directly related to what her perception of her former partners was. Regret, remorse and jealousy are reserved for what a woman’s hindbrain believes is her ideal reproductive opportunity. In light of this I’ll have to add some caveats to both the Alpha Widow and War Bride dynamics. Neither are mutually exclusive of the other, and both depend on a woman’s perception of the man (men) involved.


In case you were wondering about the title image here: Dutch and French women who slept with German soldiers during World War II publicly had their heads shaved to shame them for their natural Hypergamous impulses. This is an example of the survival-level conflict between Hypergamy and tribal affiliation.
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boulderhead
3 years ago

IMO, the 22 convention is opening a can of worms, it is hard enough to train a woman in a 1 x1 discussion , virtually impossible to “mansplain” TRP to an audience of women .

ADj had better double down on security.

boulderhead
3 years ago

From Rollo’s Twitter

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/tallahassee-yoga-shooter-incel-far-right-misogyny-video

“In the video he said women were capable of “treachery” and “lying.” He spoke aggressively about women giving him their phone number even when they had a boyfriend and how angry it made him.”

This guy is, well was an egalitarian equalist.

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago
boulderhead
3 years ago

“Well, Thot Patroller patrolls, so you must vote Dem!!!!”

To late,I voted against the thots and yoga pant wearing trigglepuffs.

The reasoning behind david macks anger, expecting to much from his equals and getting let down time after time. People that count themselves as victims of “the patriarchy” or ” racism” expect to act with disregard, might as well get used to it.

Really he could have found more yoga pants at the mall than he could at a yoga hall.

boulderhead
3 years ago

Not david mack,Bieber

boulderhead
3 years ago

Scott Bieirlie

foxguy
foxguy
3 years ago

I have an interesting theory with regards to Yoga pants: Yoga pants are a blatant view into the abyss(hypergamy) sometimes non red pill guys understand this viscerally, she is always looking for something genetically better and hence she is showing her genetic best, it’s a visceral signal. It’s the abyss because even married women wear them out to the stores, etc. I don’t think women intend this blatantly it’s just their programming to always be looking for something better. Follow the wisdom of Odysseus and admire the siren song/yoga view but don’t let it blind you. The only effective tool… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
3 years ago

boulderhead The reasoning behind david macks anger, expecting to much from his equals and getting let down time after time. If that’s accurate, then he was being a 2nd stage feminist of the “women and men are the same except for the boobies and babies” type. Except that, oops, he applied standards that are too high to women. Ironically, one could argue he really, really did treat women “just like men” in an extreme sense. foxguy Yoga pants are a blatant view into the abyss(hypergamy) First: hypergamy is not the abyss. Second: Pretty much any clothing young women wear has… Read more »

Ness
Ness
3 years ago

There is an excellent example of this in modern times: radical islamists groups.

On one hand, there is boko haram in nigeria who kidnaps girls and forces them to marry. The girls are opposed to it and try to escape, despite the threat of death.
On the other hand, theres ISIS. Im sure most people here have heard the stories about western women leaving their country and their comfortable lives to join and marry ISIS fighters.

Ask yourself, why would women risk their lives to leave one group, yet risk their lives to join the other?

boulderhead
3 years ago

@Anonymous Reader “Except that, oops, he applied standards that are too high to women.” Not hard to do for a male that was raised in a fem primacy, funny how they don’t match up to their own standards they set for men. Probable that there are many factors into his insanity besides equalism,the confirmation bias of the webs being a factor. There is a difference between critical thinking and discretion. Proper discretion requires insight and knowledge combined with patience in research to get to the bottom of things. Critical thinking seems to be impatient where there is pressure to make… Read more »

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
3 years ago

There are a lot of women (younger usually) who look great in yoga pants, and many who should not be allowed to wear them in public. What gets me is the amount of western women with fat, sloppy, out of shape booties that wear these very unflattering pants and either have no idea how gross they look, or just don’t give a fuck? Is the modern woman’s grip on reality that far gone, or are they just constantly pandered too by all the thirsty, pathetic betas out there…? I guess the same goes for men with big beer guts and… Read more »

boulderhead
3 years ago

@Silver women dressing in yoga pants is a big fad around here,I promise you they didn’t all just leave the gym. Wearing them to work is disrespectful , even if she did just leave the gym. A more respectful woman will go freshen herself up after a workout before going in public. Some women look good naked,doesn’t mean they should run around in public that way. As for beer guts never really noticed , I can tell the difference between a strong man stomach and a weak six pack abs for looks can’t take a good hit flat stomach. The… Read more »

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
3 years ago

@ boulder Standards of dress and comportment in the west have really slipped as toxic feminism & PC-ness has taken a firm hold. I’m by no way a prude, far from it, but it is disrespectful and unprofessional to be at work dressed like that, i agree. It’s quite amazing, really, especially when their camel-toe is on display for all to see. But be the wrong man caught looking at it and all hell will break loose. We have entered a feminist dystopian twilight zone and it will be interesting to see how this all plays out. I’m glad i… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

Easier to shine gentlemen.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
3 years ago

Boulderhead
I think the yoga pants fad is more about fem powerment than optimising hypergamy,

I think the motives of a 54 year old PT wearing yoga pants to hospital work might not completely be the same as the motives of a 24 year old college student wearing yoga pants to class on campus. But I could be wrong, because they are all girls.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
3 years ago

@Boulderhead, Fox: 40 or so years ago women wore miniskirts. What do you suppose the motive was? Different or the same from wearing tights now?

“Look at ME! Look at ME!” might be one reason…does that have anything to do with hypergamy?

boulderhead
3 years ago

@ AR “40 or so years ago women wore miniskirts. What do you suppose the motive was? Different or the same from wearing tights now?” Sure, hypergamy always has something to do with everything. It’s a feature not a plan. I loved the miniskirts and bellbottom hip huggers shake it don’t break it baby! Still always looked at it as weaponization just like war paint,thats why I call them power panties with legs. A skirt and makeup are one thing ,sweats and yoga pants quite another. Weaponized she can optimize her hypergamous nature, skinny jeans are one thing sweats are… Read more »

boulderhead
3 years ago

The fempowerment thing is a refusal to shave the legs and pits for any man. The miniskirt required regular shaving and pantyhose.

Maybe it is more an end result of unchained hypergamy,wearing clothing that is off the rail.

rugby11
rugby11
3 years ago

Good read an faith and ideology in framing your experience.
https://wp.me/p5MelF-2Xv

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
3 years ago

boulderhead

A skirt and makeup are one thing ,sweats and yoga pants quite another.

Are they? Sure about that?
Is a hippie tie-dye skirt “one thing” while a power suit quite another?
Or is all of this just dependent on the context?

The fempowerment thing is a refusal to shave the legs and pits for any man.

How do you know that your 54 year old PT had unshaven legs and armpits? Did she show you? Or are you just guessing?

boulderhead
3 years ago

@AR Now your just being confrontational. It depends on the context, tie dye and power suits are just clothing depending on the context, neither are socially acceptable. I know she shaved or whatever her crotch because It wasn’t just a camel toe rather her vulva behind her above average clit was munching up her power panties. I have had a woman tell me she wouldn’t shave for any man,later she told me she would do anything for me “whatever you want !.” I would put Pushups,pumps,miniskirts,haltertops,pantie hose,makeup and boob jobs botox etc.all in the arsenal category. Sure there are a… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
3 years ago
EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

Dan: “But you are forgetting that for many men, marriage *is* the only or most feasible way to have a regular sex life. one-night-stands, flings, FWB’s, casual relationships – these are not for every guy. Most men dont get the opportunity to be promiscuous. Most men are simply not built for the going out in the jungle and hunting…physically or mentally.” Rollo: “Missing opportunities to get laid with new and varied women pales in life-importance when you consider the sacrifices a man makes in having to turn down opportunities that would advance his (and possibly society’s) better interest.” The purpose… Read more »

wodansthane
3 years ago

@Roused

Game is what we use because force is frowned upon.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
3 years ago

boulderhead Now your just being confrontational. Maybe. Maybe not. What diff? It depends on the context, Ding! Ding! Ding! Thanks for finally agreeing with me. I would put bra burning,virginia slims,yoga pants and power suits togther with comfortable shoes in the fempowerment signaling category. Burning bras? “virginia slims”? Ok, so “fempowerment” was a ‘thing’ in the 1970’s and early 1980’s. What year is it on your calendar? Do you have a point to make, or is this just another round of the spit ‘n whittle club? “Yep. Thangs r diffrent now. Yep. Not lak they usta be. Nope. Them dang… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

USA McPaper: Forget the pantsuit. In 2018, ‘badass’ female candidates show strength after decades of being told how to look, sound and act”

….by looking, sounding but mostly fanciful playacting.

“In an ad in which she discusses fighting for progress – mentioning her Native American heritage and that she was raised by a single mom – Davids pulls on boxing gloves and spars with a male opponent.”

“I’m not ever gonna be afraid to show off my strength,” she said. “That’s my personality, and I want people to know that’s who I am.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/11/01/midterm-elections-2018-women-show-physical-strength-campaign-ads/1835617002/

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
3 years ago

EhIntellect
USA McPaper: Forget the pantsuit.

Pantsuits are so 80’s. Plus they are associated with Hillary! and other older boomergirls.
Hillary lost, ergo pantsuits are for older loser women.

Boxing gloves
“I’m not ever gonna be afraid to show off my strength,”

LOL!

LARPing as politics. Like a never-ending RenFaire…

boulderhead
3 years ago

@Eh ,he he

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 years ago

@boulderhead (@AR covered some of this… so just a quick followup…) I think the yoga pants fad is more about fem powerment than optimising hypergamy, you say that^^^ like those ‘two things’ aren’t the SAME thing…lol… ‘fem powerment’ is just the meta-level shit test that Team Girl ™ (the FI) uses to optimize said hypergamy… and where we are ‘now’ is just the result of Team Man ™ (the MI) failing to address/handle those shit tests on the meta-level… and that’s WHY overall ‘dress code’ has gone to shit… it is as if she believes men are beneath her and… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

https://www.interviewmagazine.com/culture/a-no-nonsense-conversation-between-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-and-kerry-washington

Pantsuits making a comeback, at least $3k versions, among socialists…

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

@ HABD ” more about fem powerment than optimising hypergamy, you say that^^^ like those ‘two things’ aren’t the SAME thing…lol…” Politically driven women, like career driven women, sacrifice femininity, natural attractiveness and resultant optimized hypergamy. Well, at least their career trajectory, political acumen is irrelevant or a net loss to AF guys, who, by definition, are the repository of consequential sex. Thus, women check out early from the SMP and call it a win. They must do so or out comes the Ambien. Career, politics and external gain are flawed and inadequate placeholders for fruitfulness. It takes a lifetime… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

Sarah Palin is a decent example.

She had fruitfulness, a stud husband (as far as I can tell), and a tidy political career but it all collapsed at her feet trying to forcefit heaven into earth.

None of her kids have even come close to her fecundity and immediate family unity. She created an upside down family tree in one generation.

Success outside the family ruins women.

theasdgamer
3 years ago

you might want to rethink this… girls never ‘control’ hypergamy… they just ‘express’ hypergamy (that’s why it’s always in play…)

…then how do you explain Mrs. Gamer’s behavior in avoiding a very attractive doctor when they used to work together?

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 years ago

@EhIntellect Politically driven women, like career driven women, sacrifice femininity, natural attractiveness and resultant optimized hypergamy. Well, at least their career trajectory, political acumen is irrelevant or a net loss to AF guys, who, by definition, are the repository of consequential sex. does that mean those girls won’t even keep trying?… or keep talking their younger sisters into making the same bad choices?…lol those^^^ girls are still trying to optimize their hypergamy… no sacrifice of ‘femininity’ bc they don’t HAVE that…lol… they are just trying to punch above their weight… and failing miserably…lol… there is a reason they all hate… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
3 years ago

“It takes a lifetime of continual reinforcement to revere one’s own finite-ness.” On my bike today just got a men’s group at a local community center. Was seening how a huge part of religion and a blue pill mindset killed a part of me that didn’t have time to develop. When I look at myself and see where the majority of the pain comes from. It’s being physically exposed and experiencing very sexual things without a red pill identity behind it. It’s journal reflection of truth. Something about death from those moments always got me interested because how aware of… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 years ago

“you might want to rethink this… girls never ‘control’ hypergamy… they just ‘express’ hypergamy (that’s why it’s always in play…)”

…then how do you explain Mrs. Gamer’s behavior in avoiding a very attractive doctor when they used to work together?

she WAS optimizing her hypergamy…lol… that’s always true… or it’s never true… and bc you’re a ‘sperg, you should understand THAT…lol…

you’re wondering why she didn’t bang that doc?… that’s bc cats are not dogs…lol… and in cat-o-nese, the doc didn’t bring enough heat to overcome her residual AF imprint… (that’s you btw…lol)

easy, peasy…

good luck!

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

@ HABD

Thank you for the reply and complement.

The present situation is reward in itself.

theasdgamer
3 years ago

Blax, have you noticed that the New York Times has stopped publishing articles about Kavanaugh accusers being referred to the Justice Dept. for investigation? It covered one accuser, but hasn’t mentioned the other four.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

“serious question – what would you see in the world, IF those career girls were ‘shit testing’ their environment to try to find an AF stud…” Microcosm example: I’m smoking outside a bar, the bratty 5’ 20 something nearby wont STFU, I call her cutesy-shorty or pop tart, roll my eyes or something and she spins up about being strong and the whole push-the-baby-through-the-v thing. I’m mush and unresponsive…soooo…she runs in and whips her Beta posse for a good ole lynching or whatever she can get. Here it gets good. The dudes are formidable, blow outside, and stand, stare aggressively… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

I don’t read the Times.

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 years ago

@EhIntellect

IDK if that story can be extrapolated, but IMO, we’d see something analogous to that in the macro.</i.

sooo, knowing what you now know about 'desire sex', do you think any of those guys were getting THAT from her that night?…lol… did she 'find' a AF stud?…besides you i mean…lol

good luck!

theasdgamer
3 years ago

Here’s a perfect example of gaslighting:

Supposedly Trump said that no other country has birthright citizenship.

https://www.thenation.com/article/no-corroborating-evidence/

Actually, among the developed nations, only the U.S. and Canada have birthright citizenship. No country in Europe has it and a total of 28 third world countries have birthright citizenship.

In the context of countries that matter to Americans, Trump’s statement was more correct than not.

csui
csui
3 years ago

Rollo, What’s your take on this dynamic when it comes to the death of a child? This is probably not discussed often due to the nature of the topic. What about divorces that result from the death of a child? I would think that women are evolved to handle the death of a child easier if that child was with a male of a less optimal pairing. A more alpha male would come. So then she will be more open to reproduce with the new alpha to ensure her survival. She would be able to overcome that grief. I’ve noticed… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

Eh Damn. I miss all the good shit. There’ve been days when I wished some motherfuckers would’ve wanted to start some shit. O/T Once upon a time, my 1st wife was backing her car out of the driveway, when a guy came speeding down the street and had to lock his brakes to avoid running into her. For the record, the speed limit was 25 for a reason ( residential ), and dude was pushing at least 40 and accelerating. I was standing on the porch witnessing this mess. So dude jumps out of his car in a rage –… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
3 years ago

SJF
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MRjp1-DgMuA&feature=youtu.be
Think Peterson could still be Peterson if he had to fully embrace the red pill?

boulderhead
3 years ago

@having a bad day “and where we are ‘now’ is just the result of Team Man ™ (the MI) failing to address/handle those shit tests on the meta-level… and that’s WHY overall ‘dress code’ has gone to shit…” When you put it that way,the responsibility has to be men’s,so the hypergamy is expressed as a meta level shit test of weak males in fempowerment. So 54 PT is wearing revealing clothes to optimize her beta bucks hypergamy while hubby stays home and shovels horseshit,now I get it. Then the girls are exercising there power over the boys hoping in her… Read more »

SJF
SJF
3 years ago

Rugby

JBP doesn’t have to fully embrace the Red Pill.

And that shouldn’t matter to us that do.

He and us are not a zero sum game.

Every happy family is all the same. Red Pill or not. Every unhappy family is unhappy in it’s own way.

It’s irrelevant to the Red Pill discussion.

Spirituality, masculine virtues, True Stoicism, intersexual desire positive traits and masculine/feminine polarity, personal motivations, masculine pursuit of purpose and mission, competence and competence, mastery are still an age old thing despite him giving his audience good or bad ideas.

We carry on.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
3 years ago

Rugby
Think Peterson could still be Peterson if he had to fully embrace the red pill?

Nope. The new “Jordan Peterson, Public Intellectual” brand he’s working up is not compatible.

SJF
SJF
3 years ago

Last time I checked, oranges don’t grow on apple trees.

And acne is treatable.

And I can’t stand men that talk like girls in general conversations. I prefer when they are on point, with a target in sight, rather than engaging in chit-chat.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

Good Morning.

I find the half-hair-do OP picture girl more fuckable than the same age amorphic women I work with.

I know, I know! I shouldn’t pedestalize.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

“I prefer when they are on point, with a target in sight, rather than engaging in chit-chat.”

So what you are saying is…Rugby could be overcoming his insecurities IRL and discuss that in the FRs rather than posing irrelavent questions that are placeholders for the video clips.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

Blaximus,

When, during all the fucking and fighting, did you get around to dreadfully dull IT and why?

I have my reasons for asking and….

Watching this confirms I was born too late:

https://youtu.be/TBXv37PFcAQ

Me and the wife dance a lot. Nothing fancy but we’re really into each other and in today’s environment it’s bad enough for guys having to cold open….kinda like Blax’s example of brooding guys with backs to the wall…but to uninhibitedly dance….that’s too much.

Last week a guy asked my wife how long we were dating and when she was going to leave me.

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 years ago

@boulderhead @having a bad day “and where we are ‘now’ is just the result of Team Man ™ (the MI) failing to address/handle those shit tests on the meta-level… and that’s WHY overall ‘dress code’ has gone to shit…” When you put it that way,the responsibility has to be men’s,so the hypergamy is expressed as a meta level shit test of weak males in fempowerment. the shit test itself (‘fempowerment’) is going out into the world like chumming for sharks…lol… it’s not really directed AT one particular man… specifically anyway…lol the only way those girls know that those men (the… Read more »

boulderhead
3 years ago

@having a bad day “… that yoga pants outfit is her trolling for AF studs…” Could be,however her work environment consisted of older men than her rehabing from joint replacements. About 75% of the PT’s wore yoga pants,two that really stand out were an old lesbian in scrubs and my favorite a mid twenties fitness nut in a burgundy nurse uniform,her ass was literally round as a bowling ball and she was solid. “lol… you know that ‘outrage’ is a shit test too, right?…” One that I won’t acknowledge,which means I likely passed even though I had no intention to.WOW… Read more »

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
3 years ago

“Could be,however her work environment consisted of older men than her rehabing from joint replacements. ”
But she can always bump-into a younger alpha-stud during her work day. So she’s prepared in case it just happens

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 years ago

@boulderhead @having a bad day “… that yoga pants outfit is her trolling for AF studs…” Could be,however her work environment consisted of older men than her rehabing from joint replacements. this is you thinking like a dog…lol… as well as some FI/social conditioning thrown in… how would any of THAT (older men with bad joints) apply to ‘intrasexual competition’?… = girls competing for access/attention to/from any potential AF stud that wanders into the ‘village’?… or competing for access/attention to/from any potential BB provider?… intrasexual competition is just an expression of hypergamy… and happens at a subconscious level… About 75%… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

“yoga pants outfit is her trolling for AF studs”

Only confirmed to work on betas. So, IMO, she’s confirming beta status of the surrounding men. She senses beta but needs more proof. Gaia forbid she submits to beta in alpha skin.

boulderhead
3 years ago

@having a bad day “how would any of THAT (older men with bad joints) apply to ‘intrasexual competition’?…” It would apply to sugar daddy game,as in which one is the old financially stable short timer guys favorite therapist. “did you grab her to check?…lol…” The reason I say she was solid, She took me down to the gym cut some bands and started me working on upper body strength. Then when she saw how easy it was she cut the dark bands for me to up the resistance. Next she cut her own bands and sat across from me like… Read more »

boulderhead
3 years ago

@DisgruntledEarthling

“But she can always bump-into a younger alpha-stud during her work day. So she’s prepared in case it just happens”

Could be,or even at the convenience store or fast food place. This is the disconnect with the thought, I dress for my job and so do women. Gong ,cats are not dogs!!!

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

What to do in that situation?

When she talks at me, I’d Thulsa Doom relaxedly stare into (not at) her eyes and only her eyes. Hold the gaze, nod a little when needed, until she breaks gaze, pees a little or both.

Oh I wish you a quick convalescence. Sound like your making the best of it.

boulderhead
3 years ago

@EhIntellect

I’m out of the system and doing my own pace now,when you are your own boss the boss is even tougher.

While I was in there (I know they saved my life) it felt like incarceration. They release from physical rehab much in the same way, first bathroom independence,then mobility, next kitchen duties (this was the toughest for being treated like an imbecile) . A constant barrage of following their schedule,blood tests,pill regimens and exercise sessions.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

@ boulderhead

How’d you keep your peace of mind through it all? How do you keep your peace of mind now?

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
3 years ago

Hypergamy on high heels as chaos erupts at the final Miss Bum-Bum competition in Brazil.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6358173/Last-Miss-Bumbum-contest-descends-chaos-loser-says-natural-bum.html

Next year the challenges moves to Moscow, Russia. I have no idea why.

boulderhead
3 years ago

@Eh “How’d you keep your peace of mind through it all? How do you keep your peace of mind now?” I was angry about all of it there were some things that really pissed me off,mostly I keep it to myself. The reality is every one of us has our own shit to deal with and some of us take on as many riders as we can. The whole time I was on my back all the people that I had helped over the years came in to see me,even the ones I neglected when they were down and out.… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

Boulderhead, “It is time to simplify life down to the essentials and this may never get done.“ Testify, brother Boulderhead! Thanks for sharing that. Let me riff cuz I think a lot about this stuff. Yeah but does it need to get done? It’s like to what end must it get done? The judgement of your life is kinda exposed already with your bedside visitors. You’ve taken care of the things that matter most, that shit we take for granted until the chips are down and we realize money and n-counts and stack memorization and zits (cough, j, cough) pale… Read more »

SJF
SJF
3 years ago

“You’ll be remembered not by what you didn’t do rather what you’ve done.” Yeah, “no one’s interested in something you didn’t do.” A lyric cemented in my psyche, going way back, in a song by The Tragically Hip, “Wheat Kings” Makes all the sense in the world. Hey, that would be great song to sing for Karaoke. https://youtu.be/agr_wTBvhJs https://youtu.be/ajW5B72EMik Wheat Kings The Tragically Hip Sundown in the Paris of the prairies wheat kings have all their treasures buried And all you hear are the rusty breezes pushing Around the weather vane Jesus In his Zippo lighter, he sees the killer’s… Read more »

SJF
SJF
3 years ago

I had some free time today. I watched the noon speech/press conference on TV, until my continuous glucose monitor warmed up, I punched in my two calibrations for my blood sugar, headed to the gym and listened on XM radio and then my phone earbuds at the gym. Life is Beautiful with red pill lenses. Trumps press conference. A little dust up with with Jim Acosta/CNN and the young single girl white house intern handling the microphones. And then the press and white house White- Knighting for her. She was cute. And then the new acting justice department Attorney Genereal… Read more »

SJF
SJF
3 years ago

I could only bench press 225 without a spotter today.

boulderhead
3 years ago

@Eh Thanks for that Man. couple things ,don’t under any circumstances 5th step or make verbal amends to your wife. If you can find a red pill mens only meeting do it if not consider starting one. “Last week a guy asked my wife how long we were dating and when she was going to leave me” You will get this from blue pill suckups,probably harmless until they do it in front of you then it is blatant disrespect and needs to be shut down quickly. I had a kid tell my wife he felt sorry for her,he was to… Read more »

theasdgamer
3 years ago

She: “…a guy asked me how long we were dating and when I was going to leave you”

This is aggressive flirting and Boyfriend Destroyer Game. You shut it down with: “No big deal. He’s just desperate.”

DisgruntledEarthling
DisgruntledEarthling
3 years ago


” until my continuous glucose monitor warmed up,”

I’ve been listening to podcast by an American MD – Peter Attia. He also wears a continuous glusose monitor. Mostly because he’s a science geek I think. He’s a great listen

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

Good morning fellas, Regarding dudes hitting on my wife, boyfriend destroyer style. Thanks for the insight. I’m probably telling you something y’all know we’ll already but let the village idiot have the podium. It happens routinely, they never ever flirt in front of me, they mine my wife routinely for information about my psyche not hers, how big an asshole I am, she’ll tell me soon after. It’s a balance game. Alpha don’t care if wife or gf is being hit on because he’s got more options, right? She should mateguard, right? Alpha is cool and confident and knows where… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
3 years ago

“I could only bench press 225 without a spotter today.”
Whats your usual bench?

SJF
SJF
3 years ago

“Whats your usual bench?”

Actually I was joking and prideful. 225 is my max with three reps without a spotter. I hope to get up to 245 by the end of the year. Hell, I might as well shoot for 250.

I have “fast twitch” muscle. I wasn’t increasing much until recently. Back in college when I had more testosterone floating around I went from 185 to 265 in 18 months.

Alex
Alex
3 years ago

Rollo – I’ve heard you say that ‘if a woman wants to have sex with you, she’ll find a way,’ but that’s not quite true. I’m Roman Catholic and will only sleep with my wife. As a virgin, I once faced a courtroom accused of violent sexual abuse. I had never even touched the woman in question, but had rebuffed her sexual advances. I nearly lost everything fighting the case – which came at the height of the #metoo craze. My observation is that male indifference is actually worse than rape for many women. But as far as men are… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

“My observation is that male indifference is actually worse than rape for many women.” Alex, thank you for your comment. As the saying goes, the opposite of love isn’t hate. It is indifference. Around here it’s commonly understood that women prefer feelings, any feelings, good and bad, alternately, to understand and function in their world and will create all that if needed without an ounce of self-recrimination or reflection. Regarding rejecting a woman, dealing with a woman’s bad feelings, her validation needs and vindictiveness is a skill well learned early. We don’t talk much about avoiding destructive women outside of… Read more »

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