The Best Of The Rational Male – Year 5

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Well another year has come and gone. I generally view the end of August as my year marker for The Rational Male. I didn’t add a page for year 4 since I’m not sure I want to clutter up the top of my blog layout with links pages, but I may yet combine the best of years 4 and 5 into one page.

A lot has happened in this span, I began the Red Pill Monthly talks with Niko Chosky. I still think I sound like a nasally teenager when I hear my voice, but the feedback has been nothing short of amazing on these so I believe we’ll continue with them for the foreseeable future.

Right after my year 4 best-of I did my first liv appearance in Vegas with Christian, Goldmund and Tanner Guzy at The Man in Demand Conference. I’ve discussed doing another one with Christian McQueen and we’re looking into venues for 2017. This was just an overwhelming experience to meet up with my readers in person, do the talk and have dinner at Sinatra’s. This was the first time for me to do an on premise event and I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a nervous wreck the night before, but every guy in attendance just impressed me to no end and the whole thing was something I’ll remember for the rest of my life.

I went through the process of having the audio mastered (courtesy of Sam Botta) to make it available via DigiRAMP for anyone to get a hold of now too.

Probably the biggest TRM news of 2016 was the release of the audio book of The Rational Male. It was a long time coming, but I think well worth the wait. I’ve come to believe that a book needs a time to mature into what its overall reception will be. The Rational Male book continues to sell very well and my focus has always been on emphasizing the printed book above all else since I feel that medium is the best to spark discussions and pass along to men who need it at the right time. That said, Sam Botta convinced me that men listen to books more than they read them so I thought the time was right and he’d just gotten back in the saddle so to speak after his debilitation in a hit & run car incident.

The book has exceeded any expectation I ever had for it and I still receive emails and tweets about how it’s changed men’s lives in the best possible way. The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine is also doing far better than I’d hoped if not eclipsing the first book. Sam and I are now in the process of doing the audio for TRMPM and I expect it will go live in early 2017.

The blog traffic continues to grow too.

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As most readers know, I do very little self-promotion for TRM and I only advertise the book on the TRP reddit forum and posting occasional Amazon reviews on Twitter. I always want the the message of this blog and my work to be relayed by the men who read and contribute to it. I’m a believer in the bottom up plan for improving men’s lives and ultimately the social order we find ourselves. I’m glad to see men passing on what they learn here. I’m happy to be able to focus on my ideas and have men spread the word for me.

I’ve done art direction and brand management for over two decades now. It’s what I do for a living so it wouldn’t be a stretch for me to convert TRM into a similar commercial success, but that’s never been my goal. From the outset I wanted to just do what I do and talk about the ideas I’ve come to or the dots I’ve connected. That isn’t to say I don’t appreciate making a little money from it, but I’ll never compromise my message to sell more books or start a Patreon site.

I’ve had guys tell me I should quit my day job and write full time, but I’ve never really needed to be an author for my livelihood. I do quite well for myself and not being beholden to being an official author allows me the freedom to do what I do without the concern of having to write ‘for’ anyone. I know there are guys whose schtick is to treat their writing like a product and they tell you to write for what your audience wants to read, but I think this inherently compromises the authenticity of the real message.

My goal isn’t to sell books, it’s to genuinely change men’s lives for the better with the tools and truths I present in my work. The Rational Male isn’t a ‘product’ for salesmen to sell, it’s a collection of ideas that, really, we’re all responsible for authorship of. Ideas are a hard thing to suppress, and they last far longer than the men who conceived them.

Honestly, when I started this blog back in 2011 I never imagined it would grow into what it’s become today. I have some plans now to do a site redesign. I’ve never really focused on the look of the blog, I just poured myself into its content, but I think after 5 years I’ll freshen the look up soon. I’m also in the middle of the first round of edits for my third book, the working title being The Rational Male, The Red Pill. That may change, but the primary focus will be on defining what the Red Pill is from an intersexual dynamics perspective. As a matter of policy I generally refrain from being too prescriptive for individual men to apply their Red Pill awareness, but in the new book I’ll break this rule and provide some generally applicable ways to live in a Red Pill paradigm.

Red Pill parenting and family interactions in a feminine-primary social order will feature prominently. Yes, it will include selections from the blog again, but with each I’ve added what I believe are general solutions to Red Pill problems, plus more new content.

Well, that’s it. I continue to be humbled by the response and reception of The Rational Male and I want to extend my true gratitude for everyone’s input, participation, reading my ideas and helping me do what I do – even the critics and detractors make me a better Red Pill author. So here’s what I thought represents the best posts from year 5.

Let me know what your favorites were in the comments and let me know how TRM has helped you as well.

 

With much gratitude,

Rollo Tomassi

 

The Rational Male Audio Book

Interviews

Red Pill Monthly

The Red Pill Monthly

The Red Pill Monthly

A Man in Demand Radio – Talk 3

The Red Pill Monthly – Frame

The Feminine Imperative

Solipsism I

Solipsism II

Damaged Goods

Good Girls, Bad Girls

Mansplaining

Sugar Babies

Losing My Religion

Parenting

The Red Pill Parent

Hypergamy Knows Best

Red Pill Parenting – Part I

Red Pill Parenting – Part II

Neofemininity

Red Pill / Game

Christian Dread

Ovulation & Dread

The Purple Pill

Don’t Hate the Beta

The Red Pill Balance

The Pareto Principle

The Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies

Positive Masculinity

Tribes

Hypergamy

Open Cuckoldry

Open Relationships

Evolving Hypergamy

Plan B

Late Life Hypergamy

Social

Storytelling

Empathy 2016

The War Brides of Europe

The Warrior Princess

Gamer Girls

Fempowerment

Ghosts in the Machine

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Culum Struan
Culum Struan
5 years ago

@Sentient – you’re right, I was thinking of adding the line “perhaps the divide is happily married vs everyone else” but the age distinction was so clear I went with that. But then again Fleezer is mid 30s I think so on the younger side of the line and he would (probably) have come down on the pro-marriage side so that undermines the age thing although it’s true for the discussion on this thread. I didn’t say anything about value vs benefits/prices/risks because I didn’t fully understand what you meant. If you’re trying to say that the value or utility… Read more »

IAS
IAS
5 years ago

@Culum, Sentient, SJF: I am struggling. I wouldn’t say Andy is. Still, I don’t consider myself unhappy. Apart from the wife situation I’m actually very happy with my health, job/career and finances. I credit that to good management of my hedonic treadmill. Also, outlier in both age and (I guess) “happiness” or “not struggling” by Sentient’s standards is KFG – but of the older guys, he is the one who isn’t married I think. It could be that another important dividing factor is “Class” or Finances. I’m middle class at best, and only because I save money instead of spending… Read more »

Andy
Andy
5 years ago

There are a lot of people that would be extremely happy with my life. American dream. I got it. I’m just not settling for ordinary. I don’t know how anyone could know what’s possible in life and be okay dying not having tried for everything.

BTW… Blax, redlight, Sentient, Fleezer, habd, SJF…

4 have pLTRs where they sleep around. Blax had his day and still flirts with hot chicks. I wouldn’t be satisfied with SFJ’s life. I don’t mean that to be offensive, it is what it is.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

No offense taken Andy, in fact I find it rewarding that you are extremely encouraged to not seek a completion in life. I certainly never did and have been rewarded for that. I recognize that my situation is inscrutable, and vastly misunderstood as to why it can be so satisfying to me. My recommendations as always. Continue masculine self improvement, stick to universal masculine principles. Celebrate the feminine in life including women, nature, music, not being locked down to flow with energy as much as possible. Don’t overlook the positive attributes of a good mother to your children, and don’t… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ IAS Good morning sir. If one was to go strictly by salary, I guess I am middle class. But I am by no stretch of the imagination rich. Employment for me has been a long rollercoaster ride. Even at this late stage in life, going forward is uncertain and definitely not stable. I have prepared for future uncertainty. I live in a solid, stable working class community on the edges of a historical district in my city, festooned with multi million dollar homes. So, I can see the rich…lol. ( and most of them aren’t” rich ” outside of… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

The platform of a relationship, the platform for having children if one desires, the legal marriage thing, the no legal contract thing, monogamy or non-monogamy–those things are irrelevant and a red herring in the discussion of personal agency and happiness.

Perfect ending comment. well done SJF

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

” . . . both age and (I guess) “happiness” or “not struggling” by Sentient’s standards is KFG . . .” Which also allows me to be an outlier in that I have done the practicum in both registered and unregistered marriage and divorce. “I don’t know about KFG, beyond him not spending lots of money on pricey bicycles.” That’s a relative thing. The stereotype of the guy with a $3000 dollar bike on top of a $500 dollar car would fit me, if I hadn’t got rid of the car years ago. The savings in insurance alone has paid… Read more »

Andy
Andy
5 years ago

@kfg

You wouldn’t be a real hipster if you openly admitted to yourself that you were a hipster. 😉

YaReally
5 years ago

@Andy “Move through the second stage, LTR 50/50 relationship where she manipulates for the safety of her and the children and you put up barriers to protect yourself.” Putting up barriers to protect yourself IS a good idea. You know what a good barrier for guys to put up is? To not get legally married. I see the last couple pages have turned into a full OMG circle-jerk of back-patting and declaring victory and “well you’re in the legal system anyway having a kid, might as well senselessly go all-in for no actual benefit so you can be considered a… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Anyone reading this in the future go back through practically ever page and read where I’ve said”:do whatever you want to do “. Then check out comments from the past few years where I’ve advised the same.

Then look up the definition for ” Agenda “.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

YaReally
5 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxNRtObt8no&t=1m32s Be sure to read the comments on the video for more fun stories of modern legal marriage. But don’t worry, as long as you’re rich you’ll be immune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DUmqGStNj8 “He covered her mortgage payments, utility bills, credit card debt, auto and health insurance, gym, yoga and massage memberships, cellphone bills, let her drive a 2015 Mercedes Benz G550 and took her along on 11 international vacations, he said in a court affidavit.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X6q5QqQ3VU&t=5m39s Just sign on the dotted line and don’t ask questions, fellas. Definitely don’t ask yourself what benefits there are to getting legally married in 2016+ that… Read more »

YaReally
5 years ago

@Blaximus
“Then look up the definition for ” Agenda “.”

I fully cop to having an agenda of watching less men walk to the slaughterhouse for no benefit they couldn’t get not entering the slaughterhouse instead of sending them down the FI path taking unfathomable risk for no actual benefit that any of you has been able to name in 11 pages.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

On yeah” future ” dudes. Learn not to needlessly repeat you argument while misstating others views.

It’s weak as hell.

And as always, as it has been from the start, do not get married if

A) there’s no observablel legal benefit for you.

B) you see marriage as unacceptable, unessecary, dangerous, hard, foolish, or any other derogatory thing you can think of.

Is that CLEAR enough future dudes??

scray
scray
5 years ago

@culum So yes, choosing monogamy CAN be beta (in fact it probably is 95% of the time). But it can also be a genuine choice from your own MPO – Blax who had so much pussy he chose not to have any more or whatever. so yes, choosing cutting your balls off CAN be beta (in fact it probably is 95% of the time). But it can also be a genuine choice from your own MPO… just sub in that and see how silly it sort of sounds. let’s assume that’s true….> 95% it is beta. okay, well, if that’s… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Lol. YouTube is priceless.

I’d rather watch video on wood finishing though….

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Oh yeah, I forgot.

Look both ways when crossing the street, and do not go off to slaughter.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Oh, and all OMG’s, it’s not a personal attack or anything. We just need to take care not to sprain a wrist while furiously patting each other on our collective backs.

….you know, because old.

No attack.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Yareally

taking unfathomable risk for no actual benefit that any of you has been able to name in 11 pages.

Did you answer the difference between price/cost, risk, benefit and value question? In these 11 pages?

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

@Andy: “You wouldn’t be a real hipster if you openly admitted to yourself that you were a hipster.” Yeah, yeah, I know, and there might even be some truth in that, but even back in the 60s I was never a hippie. I was a freak. One of those 3 AM at the diner people who only “fit in” with the other people who didn’t fit in anywhere, because we were all actually different. Like Zappa. @Ya Really: “I see the last couple pages have turned into a full OMG circle-jerk of back-patting and declaring victory and “well you’re in… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago
Platinum Patriarch
Platinum Patriarch
5 years ago

How bout this:
1.) practice game forever
2.) have kids if you can afford them
3.) tell all dem bitches u believe in tru luvvv. and are searching for your “one”
4.) meet a rich bitch and wife her up (no pre-nup… if she really loves you you dont need it)
5.) when she epl’s take half her shit
6.) game dem bitchez til you die

seems legit

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

Or, you could be smart, give up surfing, get a steady . . .

. . . and then die because you were so dragged out at the end of the day that you nodded off for just a split second while driving home.

Chump No More
Chump No More
5 years ago

@Sentient “You can add (youngish?) Fleazer to the happy married list… sadly he has been away. Would have welcomed his comments on this.” Raises hand. Another content RP customer. @SJF “The platform of a relationship, the platform for having children if one desires, the legal marriage thing, the no legal contract thing, monogamy or non-monogamy–those things are irrelevant and a red herring in the discussion of personal agency and happiness.” Exactly. I’ve come to call this the “There is No Spoon Moment” when you realize that the overwhelming message of TRP is personal agency and self-actualization. Everything else becomes a… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ kfg

YaReally will ONLY pay attention to your last sentence.

Imagine that, a PUA that’s impervious to certain verbal nuance and descriptors.

Whatever.

Now I want a tangerine…. there’s no legal benefit to it though.

Andy
Andy
5 years ago

@Blaximus

Gotta throw that PUA label in there… smh. Tipped your hand there.

I bet you actually think that you aren’t chasing ghosts…

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

@Chump No More: ” . . . the overwhelming message of TRP is personal agency and self-actualization. Everything else becomes a distant second.”

And to the extent that I have an agenda here, that is it.

@Blaximus: “YaReally will ONLY pay attention to your last sentence.”

He has a laser tight focus on his agenda. Within that focus he is top notch.
Outside of it he goes all “Here thar be Dragons.”

Pinelero
Pinelero
5 years ago

Trying to keep a simple list of this:

1) don’t get married,
2) don’t get named the father
3) have live-in unregistered “wife”.
4) Marry rich
5) No SAHM

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ Andy

Bro! Tipped my hand?

Looking for any reason, huh?

Just scroll on by man. YaReally is the guy you understand and agree with. Jump aboard already and finish closing off your mind. It will surely benefit ( not legally ) you in your future pursuits.

I was gonna say stfu, but fuck it. Time reveals all.

othergrain
othergrain
5 years ago

Nothing in life is guaranteed, even waking up tomorrow morning. Let’s not make it easier for life to kill us. A combination of maximizing strengths (RP, game, self improvement) and minimizing weaknesses (state/legal involvement) is a good start. Nobody was saying forego the former and only focus on the latter. I thought it would’ve been assumed at the outset that here, at TRM, we all agree on those things. God forbid we spend one (OK two) threads discussing alternatives to bad contract.

Looking to do so is not equivalent to living as a bubble boy.

Roused
Roused
5 years ago

“You have felt the futility of letting your life be dictated by others as well as by your own endless thoughts, and then you move on to being open to to living by another force, the force of truth, the force that has always lived within him and is living in him now.” THAT! Men can get caught up in the hampster wheel shit too. Stop the endless thoughts of poor me and legal marriage. For crying out loud just live your life and determine your own path. I’m getting a whiff of victim role playing here. Maybe my sniffer… Read more »

Andy
Andy
5 years ago

“It will surely benefit ( not legally ) you in your future pursuits.”

Oh gee. Thanks. I still love you. 😘

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ Andy

Lol.

The only way I’d ever forsake your crazy ass is if you tried to burn down my house.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

“Nothing in life is guaranteed, even waking up tomorrow morning. Let’s not make it easier for life to kill us.” Most people never come to the realization that everything is a matter of playing the odds. They simply assume that the way they see other people doing things is the way things should be done. Most people who do realize that everything is a matter of playing the odds never come to the realization of what the odds actually are. They live their lives by the right theoretical model, but they feed it the wrong data. Most people who come… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ othergrain

Serious question. Why can you just not sign crazy contracts and be done with it?

I don’t smoke crack, but I also don’t demand that people explain to me The Benefits Of crack Smoking.

No benefit to me. I avoid indulging. Works perfectly fine.

Heroine might be a viable alternative.

Scotch may work for some.

Some may not need anything at all, including the permission and acceptance or others re: their choice.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

Or, to put it in fortune cookie form:

You can remove a man’s shackles, but you cannot make him free.

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
5 years ago
Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ Roused

Cosign.

I didn’t get to read all of your comment because I am bound by shitty legal contracts.damn house…and car….and land….and job…..and cell phones….and cable….. and… lol.

Via Vitae
Via Vitae
5 years ago

Its funny to see the skydivers ask the mountainclimbers “why would you do that, what could be worth the risk?”. The OMG crew, you guys are my examples, and not strictly because of your marital status. Its because you get some things that are hard to quantify. I think there’s a set of people that are chasing one thing too hard, nothing can stop them, nor should it, they are acting out what it means to be a man. But chasing one thing too hard is likely to fuck you in the end. Old guys all know this by the… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

http://a3.files.maxim.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,q_80,w_620/MTM4MjkyODU0OTc5MDQ0Njc3.jpg

“Who you calling an old fossil rocker?” – Steve Lyon (age 55)

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/942124/280full.jpg

PS – Photog (ex actor model) Lyon’s GF – 27YO Edita Vilkeviciute

How old are you Via? I am 48.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

comment image

Last one. Hand (self portrait) – mixed media c. 2014

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

OK one more… Just for inspiration…

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJYciexBXwU

Behold the supra game state IRL – dynamic, passionate and authentic…

Via Vitae
Via Vitae
5 years ago

@sentient How old are you Via? I am 48. Same, but with the maturity of a 19 yo, and the outlook of a 65 yo. The consummate outsider. I want and work towards flipping the two numbers under my control by reading what is written here and working to incorporate into my life as best I can. I intended COFR as tongue and cheek to try to A&A and maybe make a point to those who don’t always see the value of experience, but your pictures just knocked me on the head and I realized I might be unintentionally talking… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@Sentient THANK YOU. Thanks for posting those photos. I can’t explain exactly why ( or explain the BENEFIT of them…), but for some reason they registered deeply. Maybe you knew the potential impact for some before posting them. In any case, appreciated greatly. Chord struck. 2 weeks ago I stepped on a scale and saw 15 pounds had vanished over about 45 days. I did not diet really, but my protein consumption went up about 5 fold. Been beating the absolute hell out of the heavy bag. I wasn’t overweight, but I was carrying too much ” size “. Just… Read more »

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

@Blaximus: There is something about punching the shit out of something that picking something up, no matter how heavy it is, does not do. I’ve never used a heavy bag for training, but I’ve advised a few men here that if they would just go wail on one until they drop, they’d feel a shit ton better about things while they’re lying on the floor trying not to vomit. I love me some heavy bag. Here’s a study that’s both informative and amusing at the same time: http://www.webmd.com/men/news/20060728/guns-up-testosterone-male-aggression The bit about the “automatic” Desert Eagle got a good chuckle out… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

“Sentient”
Amazing that guys are advocating to be de facto cucked… have their resources spent on raising other men’s kids (resources that will be extracted at gunpoint via state if not volunteered), and other men raising their kids.

Good thing that never happens to married men, eh?

Maybe you need to choose a different handle. This one doesn’t fit well.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Anonymous “reader”

Maybe you should. Reader? While married guys may end up being cucked, it is not with their foreknowledge, explicit consent and financial approval going in.

Silly boy…

But tell us AR – what is your deal? How old, married, single, virgin incel? Elaborate… help us understand how you came to be you?

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Blax – awesome! Placeholder post to circle back to you on this…

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

and Via…

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

kfg BUT, by my experience, there is no difference in the “registered wife experience” and the “unregistered wife experience.” I know men who likely would say the same thing. Relative who lived with a woman for some years, then married, once told me there was no diff in living with her until she became A Mother. Aging hippie friend who lived with multiple women (in serial, I’m pretty sure), who has a child with a woman he did not live with (and some kind of informal support arrangement), who I think is married to his current and probably last woman… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Blaximus In the end, no one gives a fuck about any individual’s problems. People pay attention to unity. People react when people demand change and are willing to do the hard shit. The major news organs of the 60’s were favorable to the Civli Rights movement. Those same organs are hostile to men now. Remember the Million Man March? Nobody else does. What did it accomplish? Remember when Father’s For Justice protested in DC and got a SWAT team on them in short order? Men’s Rights groups have demanded change and showed they are willing to do hard shit. All… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

kfg The bit about the “automatic” Desert Eagle got a good chuckle out of me. Makes it sound like it’s an Uzi or something. T is odd stuff, it is more complicated than we thought / think. Years ago I noticed that whenever I picked up a firearms my heart rate declined slightly. Never thought about it beyond the observation. Remember well the Desert Eagle shooters I met at a pin match. Funny gun. I’ve encouraged a few people over the years to get a Desert Eagle. Because I did not like them. Total tangent: I’m now convinced that too… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

“Sentient”
Maybe you should. Reader? While married guys may end up being cucked, it is not with their foreknowledge, explicit consent and financial approval going in.

And that’s not what YaReally has been asking about. So once again you drag out the same, tired strawman and bash on it.

Bonus: your pLTR is rather similar to one of YaReally’s options. Of course, the “married man who cheats on the road” is an old model, not like you’ve invented a new spare wheel or anything, but do carry on.

Is George Armstrong Custer another one of your motivational heroes?

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

@Blaximus:

If you have trained enough, your heart skips a beat when you pull the trigger, so the vibration won’t throw your aim off. Even the deepest bits of the autonomic system are more complicated than we thought.

And the brain more powerful than we imagined.

R.I.P. Popeye.

@AR:

Think I’ll go with Crazy Horse this round.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ AR

Deal quick, super busy.

I remember the million man March because I was there.

Maybe most people YOU know don’t remember it….

I recall a general hostility in the media,nthey didn’t get it.

After then ,zfg now.

There were benefits ( not legaL benefits …)

But I don’t have any interest in going into them here.

Lol. I’m learning in the comments that my entire life experience is a conundrum.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Yeah. That Whole Civil Right thing. The media LOVED it. Lmao.

Good thing they were on board.

stuffinbox
5 years ago

There seems to be some misconception about where us old guys got our work ethics and monogamous mindset.In reality the FI primacy gets no credit at all.That feminine primacy was the thing we were retrained by men to ignore.Men old men taught us work ethics,skills,mastery,systems,networking,sales ethics and about key people.They also gave us their perspectives on women,what to say and what not to say,how to act. This is a excerpt from a ww2 author. “There was probably not a man present who had not at one time panhandled the streets.They were a rough,free-handed lot,men who gave willingly when they had… Read more »

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

Well, I’m getting rained out deer hunting. One thing missing out from this discussion in the survival and replication men and women (otherwise known as having children) is that testing of men never ends by the woman. Fitness testing by a woman you have children with. Shit testing when she is screening for sex. We all know women always screen for lover and provider. Only low self esteem and adventurous women that are self destructive don’t screen for a provider. High self esteem women that will actually take good care of children despite her sexual needs or wants will screen… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ stuff

This is why I get totally stumped when I might say a certain thing, of use a particular phrase, and get accusations of a) towing some kind of feminists line , or b) purposely pushing a FI agenda.

I mean wtf?

stuffinbox
5 years ago

SJF

OUT west we are sitting in the middle of that high pressure that is lifting your humidity causing the rain,it is a strong one and I am guessing it will blow over by this evening.

A woman that doesn’t care for her children isn’t worth much in my book.
This is something to vete for,when looking for a LTR.Also strong domestic skills are a must,or she should at least show an interest in sharing and learning domestic skills from other women.

stuffinbox
5 years ago

Blax

Yes I am getting the same reactions from some.Who’s ass is the blackest?

Mom sent me out to help the men when I was about five,at some point the moms stopped doing this as men can be a bad influence.wtf

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

@Blaximus:

Read the Chinweizu book linked to above.

If nothing else, Chinweizu is a Nigerian, African orientalist, educated at MIT and SUNY Buffalo (Rocky built SUNY Buffalo into a premier college hiding under SU clothing – and then he died; but it was hot shit, albeit progressive, for a while). He brings his own “tone” to the matter, as well as a non-Anglosphere perspective.

It might help you get where the younger guys are coming from.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

Ah, the link isn’t obvious, here it is again:

http://therawness.com/AFP.pdf

stuffinbox
5 years ago

The stove or the kettle!

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ kfg

Will do.

Got a housewarming and a wedding to attend today ( with no legal benefit of course).

3rd wedding this year.

Fucking up my free time, but what the hell.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ kfg

Wait!!!! I have this book!!…. somewhere.

Will locate and check out.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Via “Ultimate outsider” me as well… I’d say birds of a feather flock together but doesn’t seem to work for sigmas. Maybe online. Glad you are inspired and i’ve enjoyed your input here as well. So many guys have good stories that can inform a careful reader. You would think all could rise above the Gamma King snark but i guess online rewards that. Doesnt happen in meatworld that’s for sure. On FRs not ending how you want. That’s the thing… I have reached the point of desirelessnes, of just enjoying whatever and interaction may be about in the moment… Read more »

IAS
IAS
5 years ago

@Rollo but mostly @Sentient Going back to the possible dividers being age or happiness or whatever… I was thinking and I’d say Rollo is on the YaReally, Andy, IAS side of the (legal) marriage debate and not on the Blax, Sentient, SJF side. Rollo is married and it is working out well for him, but he 1) advises absolutely everyone that marriage is absolutely not worth it for a Man in the current environment (exactly like YaReally) 2) says he wouldn’t marry again (not sure if that is in case of divorce / wife dying, or more absolute in the… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Ias well those seem to be questions for Rollo. 1. I note he tends not to give individual advice (Big Al, Southern Dude etc.) 2. No idea his reasons, but having been there done that for 25 years myself, I could see a number of reasons for not doing so again if circumstances changed, none of which are based on fear or threats of divorce rape. 3. You can not know what you are doing (or why it is working) but still be doing it right – ex. every discussion of naturals on PUA topics… But 3 b. is just… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

kfg Think I’ll go with Crazy Horse this round. Well, his war band did stop George Crook on the Rosebud. On the other hand, that day Crook’s infantry protected his cavalry, his cavalry engaged the Indians, and at the end of the day Crook’s command was still standing and able to fight even after his Crow and other Indian allies went home. So I’d call that a draw in the short run, and a loss for Crazy Horse in the longer run because Crook’s force remained intact and would be ready to advance again in time. Unlike prancing precious pony… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

“It’s altogether different when he takes other people along for the ride.”

So kinda like having kids with a baby mama who’s banging other dudes.

Got it.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Yeah. That Whole Civil Right thing. The media LOVED it. Lmao. The fire hoses and police dogs in Selma got world wide attention. A lot of it was sympathetic. It’s in all the history books. Million Man March not so much. Because it had been done before, and done again. Putting people on the Mall isn’t the big news story it once was. The SWAT team taking down Fathers4Justice got almost no attention at all. What little it got was hostile to the Fathers. The whole “mass movement march” thing is very conditional, it requires at least some sympathy in… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

This is something to vete for,when looking for a LTR.Also strong domestic skills are a must,or she should at least show an interest in sharing and learning domestic skills from other women. All skills that are totally learned by girls in their 20’s riding the cock carousel, whether they go to college or not. So the average, hyper entitled, American girly will be a great catch. Outside of religious circles, I’m not real convinced that many 20-something girls have any interest in learning domestic skills at all. But I could be wrong. Who was it that said several times “IF… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

So kinda like having kids with a baby mama who’s banging other dudes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

AR

why you ducking a simple couple of questions?

But tell us AR – what is your deal? How old, married, single, virgin incel? Elaborate… help us understand how you came to be you?

Share where you are standing on this issue…

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

“…It’s in all the history books..”

Lmao. Um, you’re getting out of your depth here.

As for that other thing..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fathers_4_Justice

I hope you can see the ridiculousness in equating this with MMM or Civil Rights.

Swat teams…. Okay. Any assassinations, imprisonments, lynching, bombings, beatings, etc?

Superhero costumes.

I’m almost offended.

But you don’t know, what you don’t know.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

Special thanks to KFG: The way you explained things in this comment thread was life changing for me and has the potential to be life changing for others reading it. Great job. Because I am not interested in talking at men. I am interested in men, at least those who can, thinking and thus coming to understand . And what I have to say has already been said by others. Rollo chief among them. I bring nothing new to the table. But you can make all the declarative statements you want, if men do not hear them they have no… Read more »

John
John
5 years ago

I can’t wait for the next book to come out. I can’t read things on the computer, so I never read your posts Rollo. I hope the book gets released soon! I bought a few copies of the first one and gave it to multiple male friends, who then gave it to others. It is my estimation that with 3 of your books, about 30 people has been reached so far, and most of them agreed with the book.

Rollo Tomassi, changing lifes since XXXX (?)

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

“…and much of the failure of family and marriage is a lack of leadership”

It is axoimatic. As me how I lnow that.

Ask Brad Pitt how the fuck he can’t know that in the fog of war. It’s because he is in a fog of war and blind to that fact.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Blaximus, you are missing the point completely, it’s a “forest vs. trees” thing. All I’m saying is this: no “mass march” approach to the problem will work. Evidence: The last successful “mass march” was done about 50 years ago, since then none have succeeded in their stated goals. Not one, and thery have been plenty. Put a bunch of people on the Mall in DC, you get some press coverage and zero real change. Doesn’t matter what color the people are, either. So a “fathers should march on Washington” suggestion is just a waste of time. If that’s not what… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Sentient

AR

why you ducking a simple couple of questions?

Because.

But tell us AR – what is your deal? How old, married, single, virgin incel? Elaborate… help us understand how you came to be you?
Share where you are standing on this issue…

Why ?

Married_Bloke
Married_Bloke
5 years ago

@YaReally Assume you had learned all that you know after having tied the rope around your neck and having handed her the gun, what would you do while running the balancing act on the chair? What’s the solution when you already have children together? To me it looks like a battle that can’t be won. 1.) Make the best of a bad situation 2.) Pull out right now and start over (can this even be done!?) I wish I could say I found some info on this, and although I searched, I couldn’t find a reasonable answer. Most guys posting… Read more »

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