The Best of The Rational Male – Year Six

Last weekend (August 19th) this blog entered into its seventh year, and once more it’s time to do the blog retrospective.

The Books

First and foremost last month I released the third installment in the books’ series, The Rational Male – Positive Masculinity. It’s about a month since its release now and I’ll admit it’s already exceeded my hopes and expectations. I know, everyone says that, but as I’ve learned, most authors struggle to match their earlier successes.

While this is still true of the first book (it still stands as the best seller and most popular) Positive Masculinity seems to resonate quite well with readers. I’ll admit I had some hesitation about focusing a quarter of the book on Red Pill Parenting, but this, it turns out, is exactly what’s catapulted it to a best seller in the Fatherhood and Parenting Boys sections on Amazon. For the initial four and a half weeks the book has held the number one best seller rank in Fatherhood and the number two and number five spot in  Parenting Boys. And for the first week and a half it held the number one best seller spot in Self Help.

At the risk of sounding like I’m glossing myself here, this is an incredible response when you consider the impact this book, written from a Red Pill perspective, might have in a mainstream reading world. It’s a great honor, but also a bit scary considering the social backlash of recent events. All the books continue to make inroads with men (and women) unfamiliar with Red Pill awareness, but the response to Positive Masculinity has been very promising so far. That said, the book is about much more than just parenting – which also adds to its overall appeal – so I’m hoping it will open some new eyes with regards to Red Pill awareness.

As things stand today, Sam Botta is finishing up the reading and mixing of the second book, Preventive Medicine. Sam is still struggling with medical complications due to his hit and run injuries (I’ll let him explain them in the comments), but the hope is still to have the Audible version of book two available in time for the 21 Convention at the end of September. For the audio of Positive Masculinity I’m still deciding as to whether I’ll do the read myself for this one, but my goal is to have it available in Q1 of 2018.

I should also add that the first book has seen its second retranslation. Beginning in Q4 The Rational Male will be available in Polish as well as the previous Korean version. I get a lot of readers asking for translations into Spanish and German (possibly Dutch too). This will be a priority for me in the coming year, so if you are a translator or know one who would like to partner with me to publish these translations please leave me a message on my About page.

Finally, I do have plans in the works to do a re-edit of the first book to address syntax, grammar and spelling issues. Contextually nothing will change, but once this revision is done I’ll be publishing a hardback version of The Rational Male through Barnes & Noble’s self-publishing format.

Blog Traffic

The blog continues to grow with regard to audience. 2016 had a slight decline from the previous year, and 2017 is on track to eclipse it, but the reach of The Rational Male still continues to grow.

I know Alexa.com isn’t the best metric, but it’s largely what most bloggers in the Manosphere use. These are the stats as of August 22, 2017 and I daresay these rankings are respectable for a Red Pill blog that’s never been monetized or advertised in six years. These numbers put me in good company amongst the most notable writers in the ‘sphere (as well as a few Purple Pill ‘life coaches’) and the blog continues to average just under half a million views per month. My general focus for the blog has always been as a delivery device for the message of Red Pill awareness, Game fundamentals and the unmoderated debate of intersexual dynamics. I’m pleased to see that in six years this discussion has proceeded in the same vein for all of them. Furthermore, I find it very encouraging when I’m told by Manosphere outsiders that The Rational Male is the best (sometimes their only) source for rational debate about Red Pill awareness and intersexual dynamics. I am not now, nor will I ever be interested in a Red Pill echo chamber/hug box and for six years the comment section has proven to be a ‘hot kitchen’ in which both critics and advocates can (largely) hash out the Red Pill details.

A lot has been made of free speech advocacy in the ‘sphere for a few years now. My stand has always been one about the free exchange of ideas. The only way an idea’s strength and merit can be tested is in the crucible of open debate. There are a great many Manosphere celebrities banging the gong about free speech who nonetheless block, edit and censor opinions they disagree with on their own forums. One purpose that this blog has is a free and open debate and (with the exception of spam and blatant trolling) will always be open to counterarguments.

The 21 Convention

As most of my regular readers are aware, I’ll be making my only in-person appearance at this year’s 21 Convention in Orlando, Florida, September 28 through October 1st. For more information on this event have a look at my rundown of it here. Furthermore, I’ve done a couple of interviews with 21 Convention founder Anthony Johnson about my participation and the talks I’ll be giving here and here.

If you haven’t made plans or purchased a weekend ticket I would encourage you to do so soon. The convention is getting close to being sold out, but if you have some issue with cost or you have some kind of hardship consideration and you really want to go, please contact myself or Anthony and we’ll work something out for you.

It bears repeating that I was less than enthusiastic about appearing not just publicly, but at this convention in particular. It’s always been my impression that the 21 Convention was a collection of largely Purple Pill dating coaches and not really in line with what (sometimes ugly) Red Pill awareness reveals to men. However, I’ve come to change my view of this convention in light of Anthony’s much more Red Pill focused line up for this 10th anniversary meet up. I’ll admit I had a hand in helping Anthony get what will amount to a Red Pill summit arranged. I really think this weekend will be a seminal event for Red Pill aware men and it’s my hope it will be something to help men change their lives.

This then is my very brief rundown of the 2016-2017 year for The Rational Male.

So here’s what I thought represents the best posts from year 6.

Let me know what your favorites were in the comments and let me know how TRM has helped you this year.

With humility and gratitude,

Rollo Tomassi

 

THE BEST OF THE RATIONAL MALE 2017

Interviews

Live with Obsidian & Alan Roger Currie

Mark Baxter, Ed Latimore & Rollo Tomassi

Anthony Johnson & Rollo Tomassi

Christian McQueen & Rollo Tomassi

Mark Baxter & Rollo Tomassi

 

Hypergamy

Stalling for Time

For Better or Worse

False Equivalencies

The Epiphany Phase Revisited

 

Series

The Reconstruction – I

The Reconstruction – II

The Reconstruction – III

The Reconstruction – IV

The Utility of Beta Men – I

The Utility of Beta Men – II

 

Social

The First Female President®  (Personal Favorite 2017)

Sexual Zoning

The Something Else

Transitioning

The Unbearable Rightness of Being Female

The Anger Bias

 

Red Pill / Game

Please, Breakup with Me

The Awareness

Submission

Confidence and the Safety Net  (Most Commented 2017)

Misperceptions of the Red Pill

 

Personal Development

Rites of Passage

Positive Masculinity

Teaching Slaves to Read

Family Integrity

Kill Your Idols

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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interesting take from a professor of psychology at NMU in which he suggests laying the foundation for “… a legal strategy to use the ADA to eliminate campus speech codes that discriminate against neurominorities….”

sometimes a bit goofy/naive but it improves towards the end

at the very least, I’m sure it’ll appeal to some of the retards here looking for validation and exoneration

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@Sentient: how is there no benefit in having the wife out working?

Particularly with no kids I don’t see the benefit in having an unemployed wife.
Beyond the issue that the man shouldn’t have married at all taking into account how the legal marriage contract works in effect, with the possible exception of it being better if having kids (according to HABD in the U.S. system, I don’t want to get back to that debate).

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” I actually rooted for Trump to snap out of it and realize what he was supposed to be doing.”

by “doing” you mean sucking TPTBs cock…

Really Blax your Reactionary Progressivism is endearing.

Meanwhile Columbus Circle monument is on the table… AND Grant’s tomb…

Hows that for ya…

Statute of LINCOLN defaced in ChiCongo….

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” Meanwhile Columbus Circle monument is on the table… AND Grant’s tomb…

Hows that for ya…

Statute of LINCOLN defaced in ChiCongo….”

None of that has anything at all to do with me. Nor anyone I know. Or anyone I’ve heard of.

” Really Blax your Reactionary Progressivism is endearing.”

Labels, lol. I’m none of … whatever that is. I’m not a joiner, or a ” believer ” or a supporter… none of that stuff.

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IAS “Particularly with no kids I don’t see the benefit in having an unemployed wife.” First order question – do you see a benefit in having a wife period? What is your wife doing at work? How is that helping you? And how is it harming you? Simple really. A wife who works really stacks the deck against you. Better to have less money (often negligible when you subtract services etc.) and a wife who is attentive to your needs and your mission. Plus lose the alpha boss work wife cucking… The business travel temptations… The why aren’t you like… Read more »

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“None of that has anything at all to do with me.”

It will when you are trying to get to Columbus Circle in 2020… Or your grandchildren tell you America was discovered by an Native American girl. Cause they read about it in school.

Labels are affixed to observations regardless.

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” Labels are affixed to observations regardless.”

Nah, guys that have to label everything don’t have real understanding. They go for easy and usually arte wrong…. but they don’t care ( which means you can’t take them seriously ).

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” It will when you are trying to get to Columbus Circle in 2020… Or your grandchildren tell you America was discovered by an Native American girl. Cause they read about it in school.” I’ve probably looked at that statue a dozen times over my lifetime. Mostly I don’t even see it anymore because it’s a statue and I don’t put feelz and stuff on things that don’t impact me or what I have to do. I’ve done a good enough job teaching my kids the importance or teaching your children, and never leave it up to ” The System… Read more »

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@sentient – a working wife makes $ and gets insurance coverage as well. My wife carries part of my burden of performance, so that makes my life less stressful and easier. I have time to do hobbies and lift instead of working 80 hours a week.

A working wife also mitigates against alimony if divorce comes.

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The only options to Uber I’m aware of are rentals and/or taxis.
Boycott would harm my bank account a lot more than theirs so…no thanks.
If would take more than an email.
But then, I don’t go on vacations or have nights out I can’t afford either.

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@ Sentient Vacation and Bills – I’m solvent, but I won’t be out of debt in a year. The wife owns a home-based business and the benefit is that it accelerates debt repayment. The funny thing is that before achieving a better redpill understanding, I allowed my wife to push me/us into refinancing the house to a 15-year mortgage. After experiencing the tighter budgets, she wanted to re-re-finance back to a 30-year, to which I said no. @ Blaximus I agreed with your statement that statue removal was only considered to be a good idea by people under the age… Read more »

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Rollo hits his usual home run with this comment on Dalrock:

https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2017/08/24/cheapening-seduction/#comment-243625

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Yet “man” is a label.

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“My wife carries part of my burden of performance”

And that is a good thing?

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“A working wife also mitigates against alimony if divorce comes.”

lol. Threadwinner…

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“There are a great many Manosphere celebrities banging the gong about free speech who nonetheless block, edit and censor opinions they disagree with on their own forums…”

A particularly egregious example comes to mind and it drives me nuts every time I read him lamenting about the restrictions on free speech that the “other side” is pushing through with increasing frequency these days. He even has a book about free speech!

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@Roused What on Earth are you talking about? I think I mean what you said here: “many male newsrooom employees are very liberal, feminized and highly beta.” I extrapolated the feminist editors from the prevalence of the guys you’re talking about and the fact it’s 2017. Figured there would be plenty of feminist editors by now, at many publications. That’s why I wrote – “submit their material to female and/or feminist editors for approval.” But – I wasn’t there and you were, so I concede your knowledge base. I’ve worked in the business my entire career at media operations far… Read more »

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The Importance of the Work of Rollo Tomassi – One Example I watched an extremely nauseating youtube TED Talk called “How Movies Teach Manhood” by Colin Stokes (watch?v=ueOqYebVhtc). It was a total white-knighting lecture advocating for his daughter, and condemning his son. It was so bad, I felt compelled to transcribe the money quote below: “…I think we really have to show them, and model for them, how a real man is someone who trusts his sisters and respects them, and wants to be on their team, and stands up against the real bad guys, who are the men who… Read more »

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LOL you don’t owe me shit SJF. That stuff clearly works for you and that’s enough
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Guess how many black dudes in the South even mean my battle flag? Yup 0.

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I’ve always thought wanting to be famous for pretending to be something like they do on tv is just faggy. Actors, news readers etc etc

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@SJF

I don’t take any of Ton’s high-IQ/higher education/whatever insults seriously…when he does that shit, he’s probably drunk and I laugh…Ton is an expert at playing dumb as was me dear old mither…

I’d come back at Ton with hillbilly insults, but I’m a redneck myself.

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Ps
Any shit test you don’t fail is a win of some sort for a lot of men. Don’t worry about being perfect at this shit. Just keep on working it

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…. asd, I’m more of a redneck than you are.

lmao.

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@ASDgamer Here is an example (pay attention Dr. Zipper…) of what I am talking about in paying attention to normal male tribal behavior when one is not a Natural. The tribe is more important at times than your own personal needs to gain status in that tribe. What I have to say about that is that I admire and respect SFC Ton for who he is and what he writes about. I’m not in competition with him for merit in a hierarchy of men. If I was in a room with him, I would defer to him and his masculine… Read more »

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Re: Wives working. It’s up to each individual man according to his particular abilities. I’ve seen having a wife work, and everything was good long term, and I’ve also seen it become an unmitigated disaster. Depends on the dude and his level of understanding and frame. I’ve also seen SAHM’s fucking like crazy while hubby was out getting that cash. The whole ” bored housewife ” thing. Again, depends on the skills that the man possesses. Going forward it will become harder and harder for a man to get a job that pays enough to have a wife stay at… Read more »

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@Sentient So Blax’s line is that BLM is feminist… Well, I actually went to their website and found these turds, er, nuggets… the tragedy of the murder of Trayvon Martin. Black Lives Matter affirms the lives of Black queer and trans folks It is an acknowledgement Black poverty and genocide is state violence.  It is an acknowledgment that 1 million Black people are locked in cages in this country–one half of all people in prisons or jails–is an act of state violence. Black queer and trans folks bearing a unique burden in a hetero-patriarchal society that disposes of us like… Read more »

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Not Born This Morning August 24, 2017 at 7:15 am Did you just wake up from a deep coma or what? That was the oddest red pill comment ever. Mainstream media is the venue for the Matrix to disseminate the lies in the code and tries to write the code to shape, direct and narrate it’s Blue Pill imperative. It depends on Blue Pill ideology. Because it’s audience is Blue Pill and the Media produce a product to be consumed by the masses. There are plenty of men that are masculine in the Media, but they need to be Blue… Read more »

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Has anyone ever pointed out how many other places exist to discuss politics, and how few places there are to discuss Rollo’s writings?

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And not to get too faggy… but – ” What I have to say about that is that I admire and respect SFC Ton for who he is and what he writes about. I’m not in competition with him for merit in a hierarchy of men. If I was in a room with him, I would defer to him and his masculine Alpha bred status. He’s good at being a man and has super virtues of strength (physical, spiritual, social dominance), courage, mastery over what he wants to do and I presume honor among his men. ” I see Ton… Read more »

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asd, you crack me up. ” So, despite the fact that Zimmerman was acquitted despite tremendous pressure to convict him, these “ladies” call him a murderer…they need the lie because it’s convenient for their narrative ” Apples and Oranges. What BLM thinks about Zimmerman is immaterial, as there are actual millions of ” people ” that don’t want George locked up…anymore. They want him to catch a few rounds. I’m good with that. So you picked a subject from their website that’s a non-starter. No shits are given to what they ramble on about as they don’t represent too much… Read more »

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Blaximus
What BLM thinks about Zimmerman is immaterial, as there are actual millions of ” people ” that don’t want George locked up…anymore. They want him to catch a few rounds.

I’m good with that.

Sigh.

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@ AR

Yeah, sorry. Fuck George Zimmerman. He’s a celebrity for committing murder and getting off on the charge. Now he runs around bragging about it and posing for portraits with his gun. Like OJ, he can’t just go away after getting off.

So I’m a believer in bad asses interacting with other bad asses, and whatever the outcome is… oh well. Live by the gun, etc, etc. etc.

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Floyd Mayweather prepares for his fight. Should be interesting to see how it works out.

https://sports.yahoo.com/floyd-mayweathers-fight-week-prep-hanging-strip-club-wee-hours-142412102.html

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@all I appreciate those of you who gave affirmations regarding a recent dust up. @SJF I appreciate you trying to explain and all, but, really, none of what you say is new to me. I am competitive as hell and have always been that way…I avoid fights like they’re the plague…don’t want to get kicked out of my favorite bar…but once I get in one I have to win…three legal fights and I won all three (only needed lawyers for one and I did most of the up front work on the legal issues…they did the precedents and were the… Read more »

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I think if you knew Ton, really knew him, you’d not have to mate guard like you think. Now, your wife can’t strip naked in front of him and dare him to fuck… that could be dangerous, but I think we read Ton much differently on that count. Besides, he has plenty of pickings. Blaximus, I wasn’t impugning Ton. I was glossing him on his Masculine Style. My wife is attractive to other men big time and she has high self esteem and is feminine. So my comment was contextual. And it was joking. Because Separately, I had some mate… Read more »

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” There was also the thing yesterday when Redlight brought up a mate guarding thing on Ask MRP where a guy was asking last minute questions on how to hurry up and get his wife not to go on a potential kayaking trip with her girl friend and two other guys. ”

Oh Jesus.

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There was also the thing yesterday when Redlight brought up a mate guarding thing on Ask MRP where a guy was asking last minute questions on how to hurry up and get his wife not to go on a potential kayaking trip with her girl friend and two other guys.

lol…it’s sad, but funny at the same time

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@ASDgamer I know what you are saying about fighting. I had to set one of my buddies strait a couple weeks ago. And I think I commented about it recently. Yeah, that one where KFG said that even though I claimed that he took one for the Tribe, the Tribe wasn’t OK because of my buddies lingering resentment would poison the tribal dynamic. My buddy was up against a guy with high merit in the tribe (not good could come of him starting a brawl and it wouldn’t have elevated my buddies status among the elites, only the lower status… Read more »

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August 24, 2017 at 5:21 pm

It wasn’t really an Oh Jesus moment. The guy just thought it was. It was a normal course of life. The original poster could be thought of of Oh Jesus you dumbfuck. I think the guy was just having either a clueless, weak or vulnerable three months.

But all this stuff is figure-able and has a wide basis in over a decade of manosphere thought and prescribed action.

The regular commentariat at MRP reddit really has some great stuff.

https://www.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/6vbjov/just_found_you_devouring_the_links_on_the_right/?ref=share&ref_source=link

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I’m drunk(er then usual) but the job was just a job. Plenty of hard as mother fuckers in the world who dnt get the same level of PR

When o say I want men to be like me I ain’t saying the same job, hobbies Ton clone etc but living at the highest possible level, wild, free and occasionally sober

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And here we go with the education of Dr. Zipper on what is going on below the surface with sub-communication within a male space. Tribal sub-communication. Take this comment by theasdgamer August 24, 2017 at 5:06 pm What he is doing here is DEERing as in the Robert Glover book No More Mr. Nice Guy a staple of the side bar of MRP. He is defending, explaining, excusing and rationalizing his former comments. See how that works? (no offense ASDgamer. I’m just observing what you do. Not what you say. I give you high merit. You know that. You are… Read more »

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Blax stay strong and don’t be a lurker your input is much appreciated. Most of these guys think al sharpton and rev jessy Jackson is the voice of the American black man. They don’t know a joke when they see one. They only know what they see on a tv box.

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@Ton I’m drunk(er then usual) but the job was just a job. Plenty of hard as mother fuckers in the world who dnt get the same level of PR Cue Frank Sinatra and his I Did It My Way This shit is spelled out. For us non-Naturals. Some of us did it our way and it turned out well because we did it in masculine fashion. I know I did and it turned out well. Whatever Ton just said incomprehensibly, he held to his purpose and he did things better than the next male beside him, because of masculine tactical… Read more »

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There are few TRP blogs mentioned here in comments. What’s baffling to me is how many of these TRP, anti-SJW, redpill blogs (namely IllimitableMen, Black Label Logic, Roissy, etc) are published on WordPress.com platform owned by that very establishment they are against. Some are even on paid accounts. Baffling…

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thanks sjf, I knew you’d come through for me

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@SJF What he is doing here is DEERing Nope…just explaining…sometimes you have to do that for people who don’t “just get it”. If you check the language, there’s no supplication or excusing in it. (I’m really being quite kind to you here. I figure you mean well, but you aren’t reading me well.) Accept me or don’t–it’s up to you and my feewings won’t be hurt if you don’t. I try not to bore people by talking about my current obsession. If you haven’t figured it out yet, I’d talk the same way to Blax or Ton in person as… Read more »

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@ Keith Lol, thank you. In the sphere, I usually don’t know what most guys are angrily talking about and the references they use to bolster their arguments. I do apologize to the rest of the commenters, and Rollo, because this isn’t the forum for the discussions I’ve been engaging in of late, and I’m sure most readers are like ” wtf is his problem?”… lol. But here I can speak back to some of the inaccuracies where most other sites that engage in rampant political fuckery love to ban my ass, and everyone else that doesn’t fit inside the… Read more »

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In genetic terms, Ghengis Khan was extremely successful. No way that one man could sire 500 children nowadays, right?

Well….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/24/dutch-sperm-donor-fathered-102-children/

The big reveal: a group of single mothers tipped off Dutch authorities.

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Ton
“Don’t worry about being perfect at this shit. Just keep on working it”
Everyday approach… Journal hit Gym Fail get rejected… Embrace… The journey…

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Much respect rugby because you got tge brass to keep grinding this shit out.

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“First order question – do you see a benefit in having a wife period?” In theory I do, particularly with kids. Which I don’t want. With the legal system as it is, I really don’t, particularly without kids. Keep it at the LTR level. “What is your wife doing at work? How is that helping you? And how is it harming you?” Let’s assume I am in a typical U.S. style jurisdiction with no pre-nup (pre-nups aren’t particularly solid guarantees anyway). Benefits are only financial. She gets her salary. Lets say it is a 30-70 split. Alone I get 70,… Read more »

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@ IAS Both of my wives held jobs. They both were employed when we married. Both continued to work, but at my direction. I inquired what the purpose of them working was all about, and what would they want to be doing ideally. Wife#1 wanted to be an accountant and wife# 2 wanted to be a teacher. I directed both back to college and heavily assisted with their studies. Both worked full time jobs while attending school, and both were degreed in the fields they chose. Current wife has been teaching for 16 years, ex wife has her own little… Read more »

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I’m not sure why anyone who isn’t married and doesn’t plan on ever being married would argue the advantages/disadvantages of the working versus stay at home wife. Nutshell: It completely depends. Any kids? Ages? Job situation in that area? Type of job? Your job (hours, time away from home and so forth…obviously a job that takes one away from home 50 percent of the time or more is going to have a different effect on the family than a nine to five, also stressors…how much do you need the wife a home?), what’s the commute like? and so forth. This… Read more »

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Per Trump,
First and foremost if nothing else I’m just happy NOT to have someone to the left of Gloria Steinem as Secretary of Defense.

Per “con man”, well, that is the brand I bought.
HIs biggest con was the wall. It’s working spectacularly keeping folks out, right now, without spending a dime.
Second biggest con was convincing the media that he is stupid.

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In other news,
In LA a gang member named Devon White shot and killed Oh Hye-soon, 67 years old, when she resisted a robbery attempt.
Do folks want to see him catch a few rounds?

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/world/2017/08/684_235317.html

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Sure. Live by the gun…. Applies across the board.

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Sorry, I just cannot stand it. Anyone comparing the Trayvon shooting to OJ Simpson cannot be familiar with the facts at all. Yes, it was a tragedy. Yes, I feel very badly for the parents. But this is what happened: The media gets wind of the fact that a guy named Zimmerman shot a black teen. If his last name had been Gonzalez it wouldn’t have even made the news…because latino on black crime (as well as black on black crime) happened in that area on a regular basis. Once they decided he was white, the very crime ridden area… Read more »

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Police to Zimmermann: okay, stop following him….

I’m holding true to my attempt to not get involved in pointless discussions in the comments, but Zimmerman is Latino.

False narrative?

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1) Zimmerman is Latino. He even looks Latino. If the media knew that before they ran with the story, they wouldn’t have run with the story. That’s the point. The first meme that came out was “white man shoots child holding bag of skittles” (with photo of Trayvon at age 12). 2) Told him to stop following him? Well, the exact exchange was, “Are you following him?” Z: “Yeah” “Okay, we don’t need you to do that” Up until that point, Zimmerman had been pursuing Trayvon and talking to them. At that point they started explaining cops were on their… Read more »

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If something goes wrong in the marriage, it’s much better if your wife works and makes a good living than if she doesn’t. Most of the “taken to the cleaners” scenarios involve wives who did not work outside the home or, if they did, made a pittance in comparison to the husband. In situations where there is significant income and earning capacity by the W, there is more equity in the divorce. It doesn’t impact child support, which is mostly calculated as a flat tax under the guise of an income share model, but it impacts everything else positively from… Read more »

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Going back to benefits of having a wife. My first marriage was a mess of my own making. I was in a blue pill fog and believed the FI bs, so did not allow myself to live up to my potential as man and family patriarch. The second and current marriage I at least did a lessons learned and implement them to choose better. I still wanted marriage as form of companionship, which at the time was probably just bp conditioning. My vetting at the time was ironically for a strong independent woman (…. i know now..) as my first… Read more »

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Not feel guilty about anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5897dMWJiSM
Self reflection your word is law…

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Nova, et al….. but does the fact that the wife works increase the chance of something going wrong? I think that’s sentient’s secondary point

tough call because the only way to find out is when it’s too late

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If something goes wrong in the marriage, it’s much better if your wife –

has a boyfriend she can monkey branch to and might marry her…

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@Dr Zipper. Woman can go wrong under any scenario. Lot’s of housewifes loss their minds too. My purpose in life if not to be a prison guard over a woman in my house. When my first wife left… I though to myself, If she doesn’t want to be with me then to hell with her.

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When the wife is working it increases her contact with the FI,beta orbiters,you go girlers and victim comforters (users). It doesn’t matter how inteligent she is she will buy into some of this increasing her victim status,why don’t her husband take care of her? hes a loser abuser on and on.

This will bring her home at the end of the day or week with a bad attitude,even if she works just to have something to get her out of the house the man loses status and frame because of this.

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This FI built in default Rollo wrote about it somewhere,between a mans burden of performance default and the womans entitlement program. Leaves the married man having to run game or defense constantly and times three when the wife is working as counter intelligence measures.

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Trending on Amazon “Happily Never After – A Groom’s Guide to the Perfect Divorce”

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#1 reblogged article on The Manley Husband “5 Tips to Improve Your Wife’s Online Dating Profile”… Beats out even “X-Fit to Headship in 90 Days”.

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dr. zipper Nova, et al….. but does the fact that the wife works increase the chance of something going wrong? I think that’s sentient’s secondary point Because working for money usually means an office. Any man with authority over her automatically has some alpha cred just by the situation. He’s the “daytime alpha” in her life, and because she never sees him “off duty”, she doesn’t know he farts at the table or leaves clothes on floor and the toilet seat up. She sees “daytime alpha” at his best, so the man at home will almost always look worse by… Read more »

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AR

Maybe you got something here – what’s the RP case FOR a man’s wife working for someone else (let’s put aside family biz so as not to attract too much sperging)?

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Oh and pimps. Leave them out too.

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Op Ed from “Fitness” (fka Men’s Fitness) – “Why I Support My Wife’s Right Not To Swallow (and you should too)”.

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“But why add to your workload unless you have to do so?”

This precisely why indeed.

In our case with the children gone and empty nest,it gets her out and gives her something to do.
It is more of an added expense than an income,and all of AR’s above mentioned apply.

Looking back when we were younger it was always in my best interest to keep her home with the kids. It was never worth the pain and hassel to have her working.

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“Why I Support My Wife’s Right Not To Swallow (and you should too)”.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2190863/Semen-good-womens-health-helps-fight-depression.html

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@AR: Solid points there. I have seen this multiple times in my previous employments, how married women who worked as secretaries / personal assistants got their panties wet when “Boss” was around. One has a husband who is 6 foot tall, into body building, a biker and a tradesman, but she is banging the scrawny 5 foot 4 “Boss”, who is married as well and is very rich. On an office social night, I saw them going at it behind the restaurant, they said they were going out for a smoke.

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AR & stuff – good summations; I think we all kinda thought that way but it’s good to see it in writing

and the swallowing bit… my ex never had a problem with that and a bj was one of her better qualities… I’d sometimes say to her “….drink it all down baby, it’ll give you a nice shiny coat…”

*sniff* good times

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rugby – the Marcus Aurelius video is really good; this guy defines Stoicisim and it sounds exactly like a good definition of RP as it applies to the whole life, not just sexual dynamics stuff

much appreciated

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Sentient Maybe you got something here – Of course I do. It’s all reality-based. what’s the RP case FOR a man’s wife working for someone else Stuffinbox already started it: In our case with the children gone and empty nest,it gets her out and gives her something to do. Provides woman with some level of drama so she is less likely to manufacture her own. This can also be met by volunteer work of various sorts that doesn’t pay anything but does provide her with a regular supply of social drama. Watching relatives and social circle couples process through her… Read more »

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Well luckily Husband’s Home Journal has some tips for dealing with a working wife… “It’s That Time Again – Welcoming Your Workin’ Girl Back Home Guys time for us to gab for real here. Many of us are not doing enough to show our hard working wives how much we love and appreciate all of their effort to provide a nice home for us. Yeah sure we say it all the time, and put those heart filled notes on her Kale Salad (too cute!), but does she really feel our love? Show her you “just get it” next time she… Read more »

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Sentient, pls stop trolling or I’m gonna reach thru my screen and turn off the internet for you

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Doc – I’m trying to come up with scenarios that seem implausible on first grasp. Still havent!

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Well not a strong case. Not too RP either, more financial. Sure she needs stuff to do… Plenty with kids and grandkids and stuff you want her to do.

Very little compelling that requires guys to reflexively think “of course my wife should work” other than the FI.

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Question: In the last couple of months I have encountered multiple women who claim to be married in the casual “My husband works at …” sense who don’t have any ring. Further conversation with them and/or social circle confirms either a multi year LTR or actual married status. But no ring. My first thought is hypergamy keeping options open by no visible signs of status. Anyone else seeing this?

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Sentient Well not a strong case. Shrug. Ok. You didn’t ask for one, so once again it’s goalpost moving on your part. Not too RP either, more financial. Your solipsism is showing. The artist being supported by his cute 32 year old nurse probably doesn’t care what you or anyone else thinks: they don’t have kids and he gets to paint all day. Sentient, hate to break the bad news, but you don’t get to define the Platinum rule for other men. Sure she needs stuff to do… Plenty with kids and grandkids and stuff you want her to do.… Read more »

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to rugby’s video above… “Marcus Aurelius…is a standing reproach to our weakness, to our self-indulgence, to our willingness to give in to what we want, to our inclination to make excuses about things that were entirely up to us and to try to act as if we are not responsible for our behavior” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5897dMWJiSM&t=36m48s it is acknowledged that Stoicism might not be a comprehensive philosophy, but one for “…serious, ruthless self-introspective people that want real answers and are willing to take no nonsense…” it’s good, practical stuff that disdains elitist puffery; it’s accessible and applicable to everyone from slaves to… Read more »

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Husbands home journal? You gotta be fn sh123ytin.

RP reasons for the wife to work.

1. You are an alpha super stud with super solid game(unusual) causing a deep conversion in a 9.5 woman that is untouchable at work and makes 7figs anual.

2. Gives you more time to scoot hunt fish and fuck strange women.

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Such a cranky pants…

Goal posts? Same. RP case for wife working. Let’s simplify… Since RP is squishy. Evo bio psych case for her working on one side and the FI Marxist cade on the other?

Now on the personal… IDK we have those saying that every woman older than 32 is post wall saggy baggy menopausal…. Lol.

My youngest is 14. Plenty to do wo grandkids. Though I expect them within 5 years.

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“Now on the personal… IDK we have those saying that every woman older than 32 is post wall saggy baggy menopausal…. Lol.” Wife is 60 started “the big change” around 49, hot flashes night sweats,even more delusional thinking than usual,more insecurity,much more manipulative,constant rewrite of the story just generaly in everyone elses business. no saggy tits or celulite gone wild,a few more lines on the face leather neck and cleavage. hit a dry vag spot for about a year thats over now. I kept her convinced that sex would cure the symptoms of meopause. Probably is a good thing she… Read more »

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constant rewrite of the story just generaly in everyone elses business.

Roger that. “I’m just trying to help”.

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@AR

Nice wrap up of the work environment for most women.

She sees “daytime alpha” at his best, so the man at home will almost always look worse by comparison.

This is spot on. I’ve even been daytime alpha without understanding what was going on because, blue pill. I had to give orders to stop bringing me presents. They will gravitate to whoever seems to be in charge.

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dr zipper Your welcome it grinds the fact and reality than Man can choose to complain on any of the stages of unplugging or we can bruise the wounds more with what’s fair or unfair. Being a man is a lot of work its more enjoyable with the red pill but that is no excuse for the performance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUAki80wRY Our pain is all meaningless in the face of death which is why its important to see it as an experience with are nature. Nothing outside yourself fuels your creativity and expression. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciJen87sZF4 Where here to move to share the best… Read more »

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“daytime alpha” aka work husband

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“…wonder why even when women attempt to destroy men at becoming self aware they in their hindbrains crave something primal in dominance and leadership….”

they’re not trying to destroy men, thru constant testing, they’re trying to find those men with dominance and leadership

not every man make the cut

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“they’re not trying to destroy men, thru constant testing, they’re trying to find those men with dominance and leadership

not every man make the cut”

Once you know than you train with leadership and dominance (Faking dominance is virtually impossible in nature)

Testing is her nature no choice is it comes up and the more you master the test and pass the more options life present itself.

What happens the men who don;t make the cut?

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