Alpha Widows

As today’s Purple Pill Manosphere tries to sort out what it wants to pick and pull from ideas the Red Pill has been debating for decades now it requires a lot of deliberate misdirection of the old concepts they struggle with. This is actually nothing new. If you look at any of the exchanges I had with Aunt Giggles (Susan Walsh ret.) or various notables from the golden years of this blog you’ll recognize the pattern – Distort the premises of the concepts that conflict with your ego-investments, straw man them, then offer some redefinition of what they ‘really’ mean.

One of these maligned concepts is the phenomenon of the Alpha Widow. I’ve written extensively on this idea for well over a decade now. I’m fairly certain I even coined the term back in my SoSuave days. Back then Alpha Widow was a designation we used to describe a woman’s tendency to become fixated on an Alpha lover she had in her Party Years and still pined for him into her 30s or 40s after marriage. We didn’t just pull the idea out of our asses back then. We came to it because of the overwhelming number of married or LTR men who reported that their wife or girlfriend were pining for old lovers they thought were “the one that got away” or they left them to pursue a new relationship with an old flame.

Back then it was just a useful reference, but it quickly became such a predictable and confirmable phenomenon I thought it deserved more investigation. I mentioned Alpha Widows in The Slut Paradox but it was around this time that Roissy (Heartise) had proposed a simple maxim: 5 Minutes of Alpha Trumps 5 years of Beta. That’s when I decided to look deeper in my own short essay Five Minutes of Alpha. With a Red Pill Lens I began to see this Alpha Widow narrative played out in popular culture. Katy Perry had a song out then called The One That Got Away and it accurately described everything that goes into making an Alpha Widow.

What is an Alpha Widow?

To understand the phenomenon of the Alpha Widow we must look at women’s evolved mating strategy – Hypergamy, a woman’s intrinsic desire to balance the best quality sexual/reproductive male with the best provisioning/parentally invested male. Since a woman’s mating strategy centers on quality in a long term partner(s) women tend to focus on ideals in men. The imperative drive for mate quality extends to both sides of women’s Hypergamous equation; the best genetic, sexual experience and the best long term security potential. Only women are Hypergamous, and Hypergamy never seeks its own level – it is always seeking a better-than-merited exchange in SMV compared to her own. For more information on this concept read False Equivalencies.

When a woman misses the opportunity to consolidate on a confirmed, high SMV (sexual market value) male that man becomes the new standard for what she believes she can attract as a potential mate.

“I’ve had an SMV 8 guy before so in the future no man below an 8 will be my optimal choice.”

Even if a woman’s perception of her own SMV isn’t realistic her Id wants what it believes it can get.

The setting of a mating strategy metric in men is largely a subconscious process for women, but, more often now, high-ego women do consciously acknowledge that one man does (or doesn’t) meet the SMV benchmark of a previous lover. As women have become more comfortable in embracing Open Hypergamy, amongst their girlfriends, on social media, they will readily debate this SMV metric of past boyfriends. The Alpha Widow dynamic is no secret among women. Usually this involves women bemoaning the lack of “eligible” men in their lives when their prime SMV years are behind them. Please note that eligible implies an entitlement to a man who would be an ideal.

This qualification process is a constant for women, and it’s a complement to mens’ Burden of Performance. Women’s Hypergamous filtering process evolved from an Existential Fear of pairing with any man beneath her own (self-perceived) SMV and risking her life on a bad reproductive bet.  The worst existential prospect for a woman is to have her mating strategy superseded and controlled by that of a suboptimal man. 

The flip side to this dynamic is that, evolutionarily speaking, a woman’s subconscious cannot afford to miss out on an optimal Hypergamous pairing. If a woman’s Existential Fear is to be forced to reproduce with a lesser man, the next fear is to lose or miss out out on the opportunity to consolidate on monogamy with a high SMV man. When I talk about how a woman will make rules for Betas, but break rules for Alphas this is the root of that principle. 

As such, a man who exceeds a woman’s SMV, and creates a benchmark of her ‘personal best’ ideal male to breed with and parentally invest with, makes a significant impact on her psyche; sometimes in the long term. When a woman has had this man – one for whom she has genuine, organic desire for – but she cannot consolidate on him (i.e. lock down in monogamy), this represents a critical loss of the ideal Hypergamous/Reproductive/Life strategy option. Mentally this is what a woman will strive in some way to recreate with subsequent men in her life – a return to that ideal state.

This then is the basis of the Alpha Widow:
A mental fixation on the man who made the most significant impact upon a woman as her Hypergamous ideal.

The Fantasy Ideal

Usually this male ideal is an actual man from her past with whom she had some sort of relationship with, but not always. Sometimes the fantasy of that ideal will make a mental impression and sometimes a brief, seemingly insignificant, encounter with an ideal man may be enough to imprint on her psyche. 

Five Minutes of Alpha Trumps Five Years of Beta.

Sometimes the smallest brush with an ‘alpha’ male is enough to trigger the ‘what if?’ possibilities of consolidating on a guy like that. This might be one-night sex, the one guy in the foam cannon party on spring break in her wilder college years, or even just a missed opportunity to fully develop a hoped-for connection at a social gathering. The ‘Missed Connections’ forum on Craig’s Lists are filled with these regrets. All that matters is that the guy, knowingly or not, instilled a sense of Hypergamous urgency that she just knew represented a prospect for consolidating on that ideal.

An Alpha Widow can also be ‘widowed’ from the fantasy of her ideal male. This is fairly common among women who marry early in their Party Years. Most feel like they missed out on having made a good Hypergamous choice (or had it made for them by circumstance or social pressures). That missed opportunity leads some women to be widowed from the fantasy of an Alpha who would have been a better choice. Thus, an ideal Alpha mental model is what she pines for. An interest in romance literature is usually exaggerated in this type of widow. The formulaic stories are a form of vicarious fulfillment of an unrealized Hypergamous ideal. I should also add, this this widow, when married, is a prime demographic audience for divorce porn fantasies.

In any of these instances what’s at issue is the fact that women’s mating strategy always moves them towards a “better-than-merited” SMV exchange and a psychological fixation on the man, or the type of man who best embodies it. It’s as if a woman’s Id is imprinted with the model of the optimal Hypergamous pairing (evolution-wise a life or death proposition) and believes that only in recreating it will that male again save her life. This is the source of that unconscious pining.

Social Enabling of the Alpha Ideal

In 2019 it has never been easier for a woman to explore her reproductive options with an ever-increasing pool of potential Alphas from which to be widowed from. Since the Sexual Revolution western cultures have done little else than facilitate women’s mating strategies. In terms of “sexual liberation” the goal has always been to ensure provisioning and support – the Beta Bucks side of Hypergamy – in order to give women the impression that they have an indefinite window of time in which to find their optimal Alpha man. We see this reflected in the age of first marriages getting older and older. And in the age of social media women take for granted that they can remain sexually viable if not indefinitely, then at least as long as a man would. This facility exacerbates the Alpha Widow effect.

Women will fixate on the “one that got away”, but today we have social conventions in place to pander to that predictable insecurity in women. In fact, there are numerous industries that now thrive on exactly this.

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I should add here that the very concept of a soulmate began with women pining for their bygone ideal man. That ‘One’ is much easier to justify cheating with, or agonizing over, if you mix in the metaphysical to aid in rationalizing it. The popularity of Fifty Shades of Grey and Eat, Pray, Love also find their root in the Alpha Widow dynamic. Popular culture tells women they are entitled to that ideal soulmate; and the only way they can remain true to themselves, the only way to live their best lives (even the life they believe God meant for them), is to pursue the ‘ONE that got away.’

The Plan B mating strategy is another social convention that forgives women of the consequences of pursuing that Alpha ideal while concurrently holding on to her next best male option. And lastly, the ongoing normalization of a female-initiated Polyandry is also a social convention predicated on allowing women to hedge their Hypergamous bets with respect to finding that Hypergamous ideal mate.

Misconceptions

The following are a couple of the more common misconceptions critics like to presume is meant by “Alpha Widow”. For the most part these are attempts to straw man the phenomenon with no real interest in how anyone came to understanding the dynamic. 

Alpha Widows are the result of “players” who fiendishly used these poor impressionable women before they left them high & dry

Blue Pill conditioned White Knights in particular use this to build their own heroic narrative around women. Of course, not all women are victims of the Alpha they were widowed by. The first part of this misconception is the presumption that no woman would volunteer for her own widowing; the second is that an Alpha “Player” was implicit in his motives to thoroughly imprint himself upon her. The truth is that any seduction requires a willing participant (Art of Seduction, Greene) and in accordance with women’s mating strategy women will eagerly participate in their own seduction. These are Alpha Widows, not rape survivors. 

The misconception is that the woman being widowed was somehow traumatized by her former lover. The truth is that the more positive the experience was for her the more impactful the widowing is likely to be. If women didn’t think fondly of the “one that got away” she wouldn’t be an Alpha Widow in the first place. The emotional despair some women feel over that Alpha is usually the result of having missed pairing in the long term with a better prospective man than the lesser man she settled on by necessity. 

This is an easy misconception for most Blue Pill men to follow along with because often enough women will refer to their ‘asshole ex boyfriend(s)’ as the man (men) who was responsible for her being damaged. Women in their Epiphany Phase will usually incorporate into it some narrative of their having been used by the Bad Boy Jerk who came before the Nice Guy Beta they found it necessary to settle on. This damaged narrative then locks in with a woman wanting to “do things the right way this time”. Women will often use this narrative as a failsafe to excuse their hesitancy to be as sexually available to the Beta as she was with the Alpha she was widowed from. So, you get a Saving the Best situation for the Nice Guy in the relationship and he’s apt to believe her claims of being damaged by the asshole who had her before he did.

Self-righteous Beta men love this damaged by the Player narrative because it allows them constant opportunities to prove to his woman how positively different he is compared to the asshole Alpha she’s still covertly pining for.

• “Alpha Widows” are just men making shit up and thinking the worst of women because they’re bitter and burned.

Yes, it is entirely possible that despondent Incels may exaggerate the phenomenon of the Alpha Widow to rationalize their giving up on women. This still doesn’t invalidate phenomenon. This misconceptions is generally dropped by critics of the Red Pill who’d rather attack the source than have to address a concept that rattles their comfortable Blue Pill understanding of women. That said, I understand how it might be convenient to disqualify the concept based on the bitterness of the individual piecing together why his wife or girlfriend still seems to be having a relationship with her ex even if just in her head. Self-loathing Incels will then use this as an excuse to give up for the same reason they believe Hypergamy is this insurmountable obstacle to their connecting with juice they don’t want to bother squeezing for.

For the record, no, not all women turn into Alpha Widows. All women are Hypergamous, but buffers and learned self-control have historically been the checks and balances needed to protect against this Alpha Widow dynamic. The problem is that these buffers are popularly considered sexual repression of women today. Women simply wont police the worst aspects of their mating strategy and any interference, personal, political or social, that would prevent a woman from exercising her Hypergamous sexuality is viewed as misogynist, sexist repression.

Statistically women with more sexual partners have a higher incidence of divorce and find it more difficult to form healthy attachments in LTRs based on their partner count. Men do not appear to follow these stats or dynamics, why?

Because men and women have different evolved mating strategies and priorities. Men, it appears, have a much easier time compartmentalizing the sex act and separating it from the emotional aspect women apply to sex. Men’s obsession with pornography is a good illustration of this, but it is reflective of the differences in our evolved mating strategies developed in our ancestral past. Men found it necessary to breed quickly and then move out – ejaculate and evacuate.

However, in a social order where Hypergamy is unbuffered women have more access to more men and have more opportunities to be imprinted by Alpha men while in their peak fertility years than in any other era before. This abundance of reproductive opportunities, and a lack of any social stigma or moral reservations are putting women into a position where their Blue Pill husbands turn their denial into hate for the ‘Players’ who violated and ruined their ‘soulmate’ before he came into her life. They refuse to acknowledge that in most cases his girl eagerly chose to give herself to the man she told her husband was a ‘Player’ from her past.

Blue Pill married men have the hardest time accepting the idea that their wives may be Alpha Widows for a man that came before them. They struggle with the possibility their wives gave a part of themselves to a guy that they’ll never experience, so denial and anger becomes their ego’s protection.

They throw shade at the men who have the Game to seduce women (who enjoy the seduction as well) because they “ruin women for great guys like him”. Thus, they turn it into a moral issue for those men or a personality flaw because it absolves their wives of their modern mating choices.

– Illustration, Stefan Schmidtz

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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IAS ” About the 2nd wife now, I’m a bit confused with the particulars. If you don’t think this is too much info, enlighten me. I think the missing piece is you have the “rest” of the money stashed in retirement plans or something not very liquid (IIRC you have an extra house somewhere else for example), you don’t strike me as the kind of guy that regularly spends all he earns. Cars in the U.S. are relatively cheap and from previous posts your income level was mid to high. It shouldn’t take you 2 years to “set money aside”.… Read more »

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Addendum:

Disney has also announced that they will be “reimagining” Home Alone. We can imagine how that might be done in light of what they’ve been doing lately.

Pretty soon, given how much imaginative ability they’ve been showing lately, they’ll be reimagining their reimaginations:

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I wonder which of the burglars in the reworked Home Alone will be trans?

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Luv ya Blax (no homo).

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@Disgruntledearthling “I, for one, am getting pretty sick and tired of this female-dominated shit on Netfucks and elsewhere” This stuff takes time to filter through. Look at P&G – just written down $8BN.. and everyone’s carrying on like it’s nothing under the blithe assumption “it’s a big beast so it’ll be ok”. Ok razors “were” only about 15% of P&G business, but you also need the overhead recovery and that could be enough to bury the profits of the entire group (I’m guessing). They could end up selling Gillette for $1 just to get it off the books. I wonder… Read more »

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Fascinating stuff Blax. And you didn’t even have to follow some motivational coach on “how to create a side hustle” or pay $500 for a special course. Basically you’re monetizing the hobbies you do for fun anyway so your time is zero cost, so the whole thing is profitable. I’ve been trading crypto for the last year which is shaping up to be an interesting side hustle. First few months I lost a ton of money because I had no idea what I was doing, then I got a bit of a grip and made money consistently for a few… Read more »

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“how do you market yourself and charge? Just word of mouth family and friends etc?”

You kids…

Just post signs like this in coffee shops filled with boomers and girls…
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Put computer, printer, wireless networks on it.

Make it crude for extra bonus points. People are tired of workimg with Corps…
Charge by the hour.

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@Anonymous Reader

I wonder which of the burglars in the reworked Home Alone will be trans?

as a bumbling ‘bad guy’?…lol… surely you jest…

more likely to have the ‘kid’ be transitioning into a ‘strong independent ‘woman’… ‘

with the bumbling burglars as trad-con white christian men…

and i wish i was kidding…

good luck!

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“the bumbling burglars as trad-con white christian men…”

. . . wearing red trucker hats.

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Hahaha, thanks Sentient.

I have seen those things before but it never occurred to me!

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Red trucker hats is a mark for execution.

The script for The Hunt features the red-state characters wearing trucker hats and cowboy shirts, with one bragging about owning seven guns because it’s his constitutional right. The blue-state characters — some equally adept with firearms — explain that they picked their targets because they expressed anti-choice positions or used the N-word on Twitter. “War is war,” says one character after shoving a stiletto heel through the eye of a denim-clad hillbilly.

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It’s been 20+ years since Hollywood sanctioned a satirical depiction of SJW murdering innocents.

Nothing new.

https://youtu.be/jNPSHydODoI

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Culum ” How do you monetize your IT support work though? Disinfecting laptops and all that? I’m out of practice now but I was basically the IT help desk for everyone on my street as a teen, and I worked in (and later ran) the college computer lab so I have the tech chops, but how do you market yourself and charge? Just word of mouth family and friends etc?” Sometimes I try to limit the IT stuff because it reminds me of being at work, but the references come from friends and family, and friends and family of friends.… Read more »

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@ Rollo Thanks for making me even more suspicious of female nature… Before becoming a Rational Male reader, I was thinking that, counting the months, mom was caught. OK, without hormonal birth control, that’s how lots of marriages were founded. No big deal, stuff just happens. After being a Rational Male reader for a while, I was thinking maybe mom caught dad on-purpose. Hmmm, ready to leave the carousel and he had the makings of an Apex Beta (I have never heard anyone use this term–but it makes sense to me.) Plus, mom’s SMV would have taken a hit, if… Read more »

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Strange that no one mentioned The Moody Blues’ Your Wildest Dream. Imagine a man doing that. The media would go in frenzy.

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@Sentient [Bruno on marriage…
https://twitter.com/GeorgeBruno/status/1158190277196156929
“It’s ok to have had a good marriage but have a bad divorce.
Some understand this.”]

How can these clowns not understand Briffault’s Law: The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

It’s like they are oblivious, good marriage-bad divorce, really, no, you twits, she no longer had any use for you, take that in your pipe and smoke it……

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Sentient [Bruno on marriage…
https://twitter.com/GeorgeBruno/status/1158190277196156929
“It’s ok to have had a good marriage but have a bad divorce.
Some understand this.”]

How can these clowns not understand Briffault’s Law: The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

It’s like they are oblivious, good marriage-bad divorce, really, no, you twits, she no longer had any use for you, take that in your pipe and smoke it……

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@if-I-fell

You might have gone too far, or not far enough:

What if mum went back to the Alpha for more after the first sibling?

😳

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“Those clowns” are in a lot more psychological trouble than it seems.

If they get off lightly they’ll end up like this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-jDPJysAeBA

They could end up very much worse.

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Off topic but relevant to Rollo: https://www.elitedaily.com/p/college-men-are-finally-asking-for-consent-but-only-because-theyre-afraid-of-being-metood-18366000 A loooooong time ago, when “yes means yes” came up, Rollo Tomassi (and I, to a lesser extent) predicted that it would come to mean consistent and constant verbal communication, that consent would have to be explicitly verbally given, and that nonverbal forms of communication would not suffice. Rollo was right. From the article (Emphasis mine): “Consent is a constant dialogue between partners that fosters comfort and care during sex,” Jennifer Wiggins, M.A., assistant director of sexual assault response and prevention at Georgetown University, staff clinician and sexual assault specialist, and rape crisis… Read more »

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You just have to add that consent can also be retroactively withdrawn… And there we are.

Pretty gross image of an entire faculty invested in showing grown humans how to correctly have sex.

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Good stuff @Blax, thanks for sharing.

My son doesn’t read stuff on the internet, but he knows about you. Your example is a great conversation starter with my boy.
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Would be great to take him to one of your ‘community talks’ (you still doing that?).

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“It’s ok to have had a good marriage but have a bad divorce.

Some understand this.”

What is he implying? I have no idea.

Or is he just pandering to his paying audience? (as part of 21Con crowd. Telling guys they are OK. And listen up…, we have a lecture to give to you to make you feel better….)

That’s clinically retarded. It isn’t OK to have a bad divorce. Unless you need something to light a fire underneath your ass.

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Never mind yes means yes, make the women fucking beg for it.

And I mean beg for it.

The balance of power has to change.

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“Pretty gross image of an entire faculty invested in showing grown humans how to correctly have sex.” Sex devolved into negotiation for negotiation’s sake. There is nothing unknown why people have sex within the faculty’s and common legal understanding. Sex is about ego-investment thus can be regulated like any other commodity. Jokes on them. Sex with no mystery has no meaning, has no purpose. It’s like they’re telling us how to wipe our ass correctly, why we do it and how it effects the greater public good. There’s no sensible purpose to sex now and every description omitting purposeful living… Read more »

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Bitch Muscles has been posting pics from the “Con”vention. I see some female silhouettes occupying the seats while the twinks are making hand gestures on the stage as if they have something important to say. I think the attendance was poor and the family members may have been drafted to fill the seats for photo op.

Is there any review / feedback from a genuine source who attended this shit show?

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@ If-I-Fell Any halfway decent DNA testing co. could sort that out. You just need a co-tester in your ostensible father’s lineage. Male is best, the STR/SNP results should be damn near identical, if not identical (go all the way, past a hundred STRs). Any male cousin/nephew/uncle sharing (what will almost certainly turn out to be) your official dad’s DNA. Providing of course that their mothers were in turn entirely virtuous … Even if there’s only females left on that side, the autosomal should show big runs of sameyness (homozygosity in boffin-speak) that don’t occur in your mother’s side, that… Read more »

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IRL

I just wanted to say thank you for the ideas about activities with my son.

I’ve found a weekend Jiu-Jitsu class near us and my son and I will be checking it out together soon with a view to joining up and training together, just like in the Warrior Kid.

I’m thinking of making it a weekend tradition for us to do that – or some other activity – and then go for breakfast and have Man Talks.

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“And I mean beg for it.”

They’ll move on to another man, or “man”. Lol.
It’s been pointed out many times on this blog there’s a huge sex need gap between the sexes. This sets the power balance.

And yes, 1 man out of 20 or maybe 40 can make them beg for it. This won’t change anything else, for anybody else.

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All of that is possible, and even regularly happens (if you take the murder out of the equation).
Consider that the mate-snatching when carousel time’s over is natural to women, most of them don’t do it consciously (= thinking: I am doing X, for purposes Y and Y’). It’s second nature.

There was the “Greater Beta” label coined at an excellent blog (Chateau Heartiste): it’s your Apex Beta.

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Is there any review / feedback from a genuine source who attended this shit show?

Not from Bobby Dino, who after begging for someone to date him in Warsaw, didn’t go…

Neither did jack Murphy or Hunter Drew…

Kind of tells ya everything you need to know, these guys couldn’t make a business case to incur costs.

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“Kind of tells ya everything you need to know, these guys couldn’t make a business case to incur costs.”

It is not just the costs. Most of his “affiliates” will jump ship before the next “Con”vention in October. They have seen ADJ’s worst and will let him down gently by pulling the “it’s not you, it’s me” shtick. They know that any sort of liaison with him detrimental to their reputation. They are holding their nose and waiting it out for him to get his emotions in control.

ADJ’s public outbursts make Shia LeBeouf look sane.

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They can be tied to the bed and made to beg for it, and most men could do that

IF

Those men had the mindset to carry it off.

Men need to adapt to that.

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“And yes, 1 man out of 20 or maybe 40 can make them beg for it. This won’t change anything else, for anybody else.”

Why do you believe that only 1 man out of 20 or 40 can make them beg for it?

I’m not sold on any ” sex need gap ” per se. Lack of understanding and beliefs create most gaps, so mind the gap.

So in your opinion, is it the wimminz that are the cause of the 1 in 20, or is it the men?

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” They can be tied to the bed and made to beg for it, and most men could do that

IF

Those men had the mindset to carry it off.

Men need to adapt to that.”

^^^^ This right here. +100

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There are no confident greater Betas. Greater beta asserts he knows some Alpha and chooses to be less than he could be. For ego integrity sake that guy must be self-sadistic and happily so. Alpha are.secure in their Alpha. Same for Betas. It’s all or nothing. A Beta knowing how he might be as Alpha and what he’s missing as he presently exists puts him at a crossroads. Remain static and die accepting he failed himself…or…become Alpha. Consider: knowing about the matrix while living in it and happily submitting to it’s limitations literally can not happen with a modicum of… Read more »

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Greater Betas won’t tie women up. He’ll ooze indecision. No woman wants that guy in charge.

Betas will, if ordered to, I guess, and then they’ll want to be tied up and be ok as she empties his wallet and steals his skateboard.

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It appears that Victoria’s Secret has gone and done it; they’ve hired a trans model.

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@Blax

This is just a micro glitch on the Darwinian timeline.

Those men that fail don’t reproduce. You tie her up and make her beg or you fail. Do or pass go, do not collect £200.

The barriers are just rising a bit at a time to weed out the weaker gene donors.

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“It appears that Victoria’s Secret has gone and done it; they’ve hired a trans model.”

Gisele?

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kfg, circa 1995 Hooters attempted it with great success!

https://images.app.goo.gl/aMtgebDKJoEhbsZ66

What could go wrong?

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Brazilian Valentina Sampaio:
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https://youtu.be/BbF2rG8E_-c

The voice always gives it away.

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Yep

Men are better at most things .. including being women it seems

It’s a worry.. especially where I live

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The voice always gives it away. Lots more than that, when you see them around actual women. Telltales abound: height, size of hands and feet, size of head, width of shoulders, prominence of wrist bone, adam’s apple (if they haven’t had it shaved), lack of hips (unless they have had implants there) and so on. It’s really not hard to tell one apart from an actual woman if you see them with actual women. It’s when they are isolated from actual women that guys can get confused. In real life that almost never happens, and trans women are not that… Read more »

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The Dundee test is almost a sure thing.

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Ok. Lets assume that he got his adam’s apple shaved off, got hip implants, short and is isolated from women. My point was that, as soon as you started talking to it, all those things he did to deceive people, become irrelevant, because the voice always gives it away.

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clearly a girl…

Listen to the transexual talk in the clip I shared above.

You just know when you hear it. Well at least I do.

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“The prevalence of suicide attempts among respondents to the National Transgender Discrimination Survey (NTDS), conducted by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and National Center for Transgender Equality, is 41 percent, which vastly exceeds the 4.6 percent of the overall U.S. population who report a lifetime suicide attempt, and is also higher than the 10-20 percent of lesbian, gay and bisexual adults who report ever attempting suicide” Don’t be fooled that trannies are bullied into killing themselves. That excuse is a poor-me cop-out and more externalization of a self-inflicted purposelessness by trannies and the mental health industry that doesn’t… Read more »

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IRL Wow, thanks man. As far as the gatherings go, yeah I’m still participating when time permits, but my initial plan was to groom some younger guys to take over and keep it going. It’s grown beyond my capabilities and available time, and it seems like going forward, it will require funds. That’s why I watched the whole 21 convention thing with such interest, because Rollo was my inspiration to try and tackle something like this in the first place. We have speakers, cops, lawyers, District attorneys, mayors, judges, business people, professors – and it’s getting ever more difficult to… Read more »

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Telling a transwoman from a real woman: Number 1 telltale sign: Hands. Always ask to look at and see her/his/its hands. Check for a 2/4 digit ratio. When the fingers are placed immediately next to each other and laid flat on a flat surface, the index finger on a biological male is almost always markedly shorter than the ring finger. Do the same with a biological woman, the index finger is either the same length as the ring finger, or index is longer than ring. Second telltale sign is height. Third is lack of hip flare. Fourth is width/breadth of… Read more »

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Ok, how could you know if your wife, fiancee or girlfriend is an alpha widow?
Is there a set of actions related to this case or what?

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I think the number one come is her level of desire for you. If you’ve dated a bunch of women and have had desire sex, and you run into a woman that has sex with you ( as a wife or gf ) and there’s a lack of urgency or a notable building of desire, there’s probably a distraction, or she’s not mentally capable of ” bonding ” for some reason. That reason could be the guy she can’t forget and is.holding a level of desire for still. I’d guess the easiest clue would be her mentioning ” him ”… Read more »

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When did this become a trans blog?

Elsewhere, “Rollo Derangement Syndrome” is spreading in full force. Just mentioning his name causes beard bros to turn into Triggly Puffs.

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WTF??

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Pat Campbell works with Rollo, but also promotes Bitch Muscles on Twitter.

Donovan Sharpe is part of the watered down RMG, but still calls Rollo “The Godfather”.

Sean T Smith does not agree with Rollo, but gets along with Rich Cooper and his ideas.

Is loyalty even a thing now a days?

I could never trust somone who is also in bed with my enemy.

Rollo and Bitch Muscles are now on opposite ends and have these snakes in the middle pandering to both sides.

This is very disturbing and will not end well for anybody. It is a clusterfuck.

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I do’t think it’s a cluster-fuck. It’s a cluster of fucks.

Back when everyone used to think they could work a shitjob for 30 years, get married and die, guys did things a certain way.

Now people running business are trimming fat based on their biases. They have the right to do that. Their mileage will vary.

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” running a business ” is very very different than it was in the past. Lots of people like ADJ littering the landscape.

College and business schools were hijacked 30 years ago, and dumb things like loyalty and integrity were scrubbed from the curriculum.

Corporations are people my friend.😁

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Rollo is in a precarious position… Almost.

I say almost because in the end the truth always outs. However that does not mean money.

Rollo’s had to go through a lot with these fuckers and now suffer the ignominy of watching his creation be ripped of by hyenas. It’s going to be a tough battle.

(One Mystery failed at with his creation btw. And the other R’s as well…)

Best wishes to RT.

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We’re all in your corner, and this is your shop but honestly – don’t descend into this by commenting.

You’ve played it well so far, but seriously, don’t descend into it. You need to STFU.

In the vacuum they will eat each other.

Serve whatever dish you want to serve back in your own time and cold. You haven’t let your enemy exhaust themselves yet, and that’s what you need to let happen.

Best wishes.

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@Incubus Yes it appears a cluster fuck but it’s playing out in an entirely predictable way. One thing that no one has here (including Rollo) is a “business”. Rollo isn’t trying to run it as a business but the rest are. None of those clowns have a repeatable, scalable, predictable model to get a customer, provide them with a product or service and then extract a profit from that. They’re just standing around in a circle wanking themselves off looking at each other, wanting what they think the others have got (which isn’t actually very much). It’s like watching the… Read more »

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@Blax I wish more guys would hold desire sex up as a metric for success instead of “N Count.” Desire sex is the ultimate barometer, and can happen regardless of “N Count” being 1 or 100. Really, almost all of TRP can be boiled down to desire sex. Once a man experiences it even once, the standard is set. If desire sex starts dwindling, up the Game, up the Dread. Try to get it back with this particular woman (only if you want to), and if that fails, who cares? Let it go and find it with someone else. Anything… Read more »

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@Rollo: I have seen that episode two times to date and I am amazed at the accuracy with which you predicted how things will play out. And the snakes were plotting against you right at that table as you were speaking. I posted the above comment to check if you and others here are aware of the games these “neutral parties” are playing. I am not worried about AJAC, Bitch Muscles or George “Twink” Bruno. At least they have openly laid out their stupid and vile intention that they want a share of that luractive JBP lost Boys and Mattew… Read more »

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@TheMarquis I just wanted to say thank you for the ideas about activities with my son. I’ve found a weekend Jiu-Jitsu class near us and my son and I will be checking it out together soon with a view to joining up and training together, just like in the Warrior Kid. I’m thinking of making it a weekend tradition for us to do that – or some other activity – and then go for breakfast and have Man Talks. That’s awesome, man. Props for getting yourself and him into something like that. Lead by example. Make it important and make… Read more »

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Hey here is a surprise… Jeff Epstein “killed himself”…

who saw that coming?

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Just in “Jeffery Epstein has died by suicide”.

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@Sentient:

SURPRISED?? No, not at all. I have lost count of how many of Clintons’ “associates” and “friends” have committed “suicide” or died in an “accident”.

I think Hillary can now come out and announce that she is running again.

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Yeah. Guy on “suicide watch” since 7/23 hangs himself in jail.

OK then… Suicide watch means throwing a rope in the cage and observing?

Well at least he didn’t shoot himself in the back of the head six times…

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Super shady character. I wished he’d have gone to trial, but dead is dead.

He had thousands of pictures and cds. Seems like an open and shut case. Maybe they’ll prosecute his gf now.

I.wonder should his headstone read ” when worshipping young girls goes wrong “.

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@Sentient: There are reports saying that Epstein claimed he was assauted on 7/23, yet he was put on suicide watch.

Everybody knew this was coming. A lot of high profile people have made trips to his infamous sex paradise island.

I guess you are right, the best way to treat a person on suicide watch is to leave rope in his jail cell.

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And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went to Arkansas and put a bullet through his head.

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Epstein had more his fill of illegally young ones. The powers that be needed him gone, due to spillover impact on people who indulged with him, but less piggishly, so he’s gone. I don’t mourn his passing, but I also am not so naive as to see it in isolation from the web of very powerful and influential people who needed him to be gone long before he could sing.

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The life insurance policy rates for the guards who watched him must be pretty high.

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What’s the Clinton murder count up to now?

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“I’m a forgiving man, but I don’t forget a slight.”

I have a daughter who is big on spite and bitterness. She lives with trash in the yard and tall weeds around her house–she raises rats and mosquitos. (Lots of cats and barn swallows in the area.) Her awesome family went to check on her and make sure she was Ok and she ran them off despite her family being warm and friendly. She’s such an awesome success!

Better to answer a slight with gentle mocking and let it go. Being able to forget is a blessing.

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What’s the Clinton murder count up to now?

A bazillion jillion. lol

I have a conspiracy theory on the conspiracy theory.
I suspect the real number is under 20, but they’ve purposely added 200+ more so those become lost in the confusion and they can easily discredit reasonable inquiries.

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Nothing to see here. Bad man who hurt women is gone. Move along people.

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Ever notice how difficult it is to find an old television interview where Hillary called Clinton’s accusers bimbos and such? I’ve seen it a couple of times, but it’s never up more than a half day as far as I can tell.

Move along people.
Okeedokee. lol

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Meanwhile

George Bruno

https://www.instagram.com/p/B03uEP3Hewl/

explains to Ivan Throne’s wife that “he’s the bottom” because “reasons”.

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The news anchors at Clinton News Network coveted the Jeffery suicide by casually mentioning that he has died and called an “expert” to talk about the open cases. The “expert” said crimanal cases will close and civil cases will continue against his estate. And not a word was spoken about the buzarre circumstances he died under.

Yes, it was literally “move along, nothing to see here … look there … Orange man bad”.

Even staunch Democrats see the bias in reporting and i am sure many will walk away from the party and abstain from voting.

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‘impactful’ is not a word. It is in no printed dictionary.

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@Rollo “This abundance of reproductive opportunities, and a lack of any social stigma or moral reservations are putting women into a position where their Blue Pill husbands turn their denial into hate for the ‘Players’ who violated and ruined their ‘soulmate’ before he came into her life.” Yeah, the ‘soulmate’ doesn’t stimulate desire like high SMV males do. But low SMV males are rationalizing their lack of attractiveness with this kind of nonsense. However, in a sense, alphas ‘ruin’ women. Women with N counts > 1 have a more difficult time bonding with men (because they are alpha widows and… Read more »

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Lol.

Been a while since you mentioned std’s.

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“Yes, impactful is a word, but it’s likely to annoy at least some of your readers.” https://www.grammarly.com/blog/impactful/ It is in the printed Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, 6th edition. Personally I don’t care for it, but at least it’s not as offensive as “irregardless.” I also note that about 25% of the standard English language didn’t exist before Shakespeare, Marlowe and that lot pulled it out of their lexigraphical arses so that the words could be included in the greatest works of English literature. By the logic I will also note that before 1755 there were no English words, but Johnson… Read more »

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@Grammar Angel

If words needed be in dictionaries to become words, there could be no words at all.

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“This abundance of reproductive opportunities, and a lack of any social stigma or moral reservations…”

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/coxomn/tinder_surprise/

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Oops…just read kfg’s post there.
Yep.

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Hey Rollo there’s a new vodka on the block “Atomik” not sure it will go viral but it could go nuclear

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9678993/chernobyl-vodka-branded-atomik-is-launched-made-from-grain-and-water-from-the-radioactive-exclusion-zone/

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blax, big picture…

What’s the no. 1 problem facing America’s people?

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Hmmmm. So the choice is to be a guy who creates alpha widows or to have some other guy do it. Gosh, I’ll choose being a ‘Widow Maker’. Hehehe. While you guys flail about on your keyboards, i’m out making widows. Made another new one for sure… Ya gotta fuck a woman out. She’ll come back wet the next time. You can see it in their eyes, they actually resent how much they want you after a while. They resent what you’ve done to them. But if my other choice is to be the beta schlubb she mercy fucks once… Read more »

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waitaminute….that’s ….I’ve heard that before. Damn, now I gotta use the Google machine.

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lol, Willie Wonka/ O’Shaunessy .

… clever

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Blax, what’s the no. 1 problem facing a man?

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Why do you keep asking me that?

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