I’m a psychotherapist working with couples, especially men who get left by their wives. I’ve studied your material for over a year now and the hypergamy stuff is dead on. I just wanted to share and maybe talk with you about the red pill rage that results — women love opportunistically yes, but many men who comment on your material are missing a component I believe. And it’s not one I’ve heard you allude to much either.. When a man isn’t pursuing his dreams and highest self, the woman oftentimes interprets that as a lack of love for her, as though continuing to stay competitive and strong in the world shows her that he is invested in the relationship. When men get lazy women actually feel discarded. The pain and the love is real – it isn’t so simple as jaded men think.. that women are blood thirsty gold digging monsters. The female design feels unloved and devalued when her man is not on fire for his own life..
I had this sent to me recently. It’s actually a pretty standard trope for Trad-Con women who want to justify their leaving a husband or having left an old lover/baby-daddy. They like to pretend they’re ‘red pill’ and so the only men who might qualify for their expired sexual market value will be Red Pill men who meet their new qualifications. One thing I’m seeing more and more of in this sub-section of the manosphere (really femosphere) is aged-out divorcé women who want to rebrand the ‘red pill’ to justify their unmarried, unpaired, state in the new sexual marketplace. As you might imagine, their solipsism gets combined with what they convert into a convenient rationale about what Red Pill men ought to be like. The lack of ‘real men’, real ‘red pill’ men is ostensibly why they’re still single – no man is actually ‘red pill’ enough to satisfy their hamstering and thus, it’s not they who have the problem, but rather the men who lack the balls to live up to those expectations.
If this sounds familiar – like maybe a feminist spouted off a version of it – you’re right. I wrote about this rationalization back in The Bitter Taste of the Red Pill:
Game-aware women – the ones who have been forcibly exhausted of all pretense of maintaing the illusion that Game is a lie – feel as though it’s owed to them, in their concession of Game’s reality, that Men should use Game to women’s benefit. Even to the last effort women still cling to the tools of a feminized acculturation;
“Yeah, OK, you got us, Game is really what women want, Hypergamy is the law of womankind, but now it’s your responsibility that you use it for the better benefit of society by molding a new breed of improved Betas to accommodate fem-centric monogamy. You owe us our security for having admitted to the grand illusion that’s kept you in thrall for so long.”
It’s an indictment of Game-aware women, and sympathizing men, that they should feel a need to delineate some aspects of Game into good camps (pro woman, pro feminized monogamy) and bad camps (manipulative, polygynous, male-centered). Even in the admission of the truth that Game has enlightened Men of, the feminine imperative still seeks to categorize the application of Game to its own end. That Men might have some means of access to their own sexual strategy is too terrible a Threat; Game must be colored good or bad as it concerns the imperatives of women and a fem-centric societal norm.
As the default, socially correct and virtuous concern, women have an easier time of this. As Game becomes increasingly more difficult to deny or misdirect for the feminine, the natural next step in accepting it becomes qualifying its acceptable uses. While hypergamy is an ugly truth, the characterization of it becomes “just how women are” – an unfortunate legacy of their evolution. However for Men, the characterizations of the harsher aspects of Game in its rawest form (contingencies for hypergamy) are dubbed “the dark arts”.
Red Pill Women – A Convenient Rationale
I wrote this back in 2012. Some of my earliest posts were about predicting exactly this phenomenon in the future. The more Red Pill aware a woman is – or I should say, the more she consciously acknowledges it – the greater the need will be to find fault in men for not living up to what they redefine as ‘red pill’ canon. The more widespread Red Pill awareness of intersexual dynamics becomes, and the more accepted it is, the more it will serve as an alibi for women trying to rebuild a life they destroyed themselves. It becomes a Red Pill man’s ‘duty’ to forgive their indiscretions and help them recover too.
Over the years Dalrock has gone into how women detonate their marriages as a result of divorce porn fantasies. I’m not sure he really dissects the aftermath of their divorces. And this is only one way in which women may find themselves single around middle age. In Preventive Medicine I detail how women go through at least to periods of crisis level Hypergamous doubt during a marriage. Women’s prerequisites for attraction (not arousal) shifts radically once she reaches the Epiphany Phase (29-31). She becomes far more compromising in terms of physicality in exchange for aspects of a man she finds desirable for long-term prospects of security. Whereas she may have only dated banged guys 1-2 inches taller than herself in her Party Years, now she’s willing to entertain the idea of banging dating a guy slightly shorter than herself so long as he has a capacity for success and provisioning for her.
This is an interesting phase to pick apart because it’s likely the first time in a woman’s life that she’s considering a relationship with a guy based on transactional sex as opposed to the prime directive of validational sex she’s been pursuing for most of her Party Years (18-26). For the first time her long-term attraction is based on different aspects of a man’s Burden of Performance.
During the Epiphany Phase a woman plays a complex game of internalized mental gymnastics. Her hindbrain understands that her sexual market value has been decaying for at least a couple of years prior to this conscious recognition of it. The enjoyment of the Party Years has to be weighed against the fact that she’s progressively losing the attention of the men she would like to have ‘enthusiastic’ validational sex with, and the necessity of a long-term security with a long-term partner. Thus, the rationalization engine kicks into overdrive. She must convince herself that the less exciting (arousing) but better provisioning guy who’s happy to have her at 30 represents the type of guy she ‘should‘ have been with all along.
This is a self-bullshitting contrivance of course, but in her mind the guy who she’s marrying or pairing long term with must be an example of a ‘good prospect’. This is when she does the self-conditioning of turning her necessity into a virtue. She was “so crazy in college, but now she’s matured and not like that anymore.” Or she’s “Getting right with God” or she’s “Learned her lesson in dating banging those Bad Boys” who’ve characterized her intimate life up until this point.
Those are the easy self-contrivances; what’s more difficult is convincing her hindbrain (that desperately wants the exciting validational sex with the Bad Boy) that the unexciting ‘Good Guy’ is really what’s best for her. This is where women like to rearrange what’s really important to them in a man.
This is the internal conflict that takes place in the Epiphany Phase, but what happens to the woman who never gets to consolidate on the ‘Good Guy’? For a variety of reasons (mostly overvalued evaluation of their SMV) more and more women find themselves ‘never marrieds’ and/or they follow the timeline in Preventive Medicine and find themselves divorced of their own doing. In either case, women still work through a similar series of self-rationalizations with respect to what they’re looking for, and what they feel they are entitled to, in a man around 38 to 45, sometimes as late as 50.
And this is where the Red Pill feeds that female entitlement schema. The logic goes like this:
If I’m a Red Pill woman and I agree with all of these Red Pill men who, despite all my misgivings, align with my (self-defined and sanitized) definition of what it means to be “red pill”, then these men owe it to me to unplug from their Blue Pill delusions and see me for the jewel in the rough that I really am.
I think the time a woman is most likely to discover she’s a “Red Pill Woman” is conveniently at the point in her life when she’s at her most necessitous. You will almost never find a girl of 22 who’d want to identify as a Trad-Con “Red Pill” woman – the incentives to do so simply don’t exist at this age. The fact that it is predominantly Traditional Conservative women who are either just pre-Wall or post-Wall, single-mothers, never married spinsters, divorcés or married-to-lesser-Betas who wish to redefine ‘Red Pill’ to use as a litmus test for the type of men they believe they’re entitled to is no coincidence.
Message to the ladies: Men don’t owe you shit. If you happen upon a man who shares your entitlement belief-set, a man willing to forgive your past indiscretions and marry you despite a ruthless marriage/divorce industrial complex arrayed against him, then thank whatever God you pray to and fuck that guy’s brains out to keep him happy, but don’t pretend it’s because either you or he is “Red Pill”. The fact that he would entertain the idea of a relationship with you disqualifies him from being “Red Pill”.
If you find yourself single, never-married at 38 and it “just never worked out for you” it’s time you look past your solipsism and find some real introspect. The problem begins and ends with you.
Love and Opportunism
Now, all that said, the ‘psychotherapist‘ who sent me this does have some legitimate points.
When a man isn’t pursuing his dreams and highest self, the woman oftentimes interprets that as a lack of love for her, as though continuing to stay competitive and strong in the world shows her that he is invested in the relationship.
First of all this is flat out false; I’ve written several posts that illustrate exactly this perspective. From Setting the Rules:
Once a woman understands the gravity and legitimacy of your purpose / passion, only then can she come to appreciate the significance of you foregoing or postponing the dictates of that purpose for her. She will never feel more important to you than when you (occasionally) lift her above that legitimate, verified purpose.
Women will never appreciate a relationship that is a Man’s greatest ambition.
That’s an old (obscure?) post I wrote some time ago, but the basic principle is that a man must be fearless in his pursuit of his passions both before and after he’s entered into some kind of committed exclusivity. In Acing the Test I point out that women tend to shit test for different things while single and when in an LTR. In a long term relationship these test are characterized by the need to quell the Hypergamous doubt that she paired with a guy who is, or has the potential for competency. In other words her Hypergamous hindbrain wants to know it made its best ‘bet’ on you.
And while that’s all fine and well, her hindbrain’s insecurity wars with the need for you to retain your ambition and your being emotionally available for her. When these two aspects come into conflict it is up to a man to retain the world, the Frame, he’s established in which she feels comfortable and yet uncomfortable enough to know he’s competent to be powerful in directing his own course in life.
When men get lazy women actually feel discarded. The pain and the love is real – it isn’t so simple as jaded men think.. that women are blood thirsty gold digging monsters. The female design feels unloved and devalued when her man is not on fire for his own life..
Again, this is a perfect illustration of the differences in the concepts men and women each independently hold when it comes to love. Men love Idealistically, women love Opportunistically and this quote spells this out in no uncertain terms – in fact it’s so ironic I’m not sure the woman relating this to me even realizes what she’s doing. Women intimately associate a man’s ambitiousness, his drive for mastery and power, his want for dominance, with her Opportunistic concept of love. She’s correct here, when men get lazy women feel discarded. However, this is because a man contenting himself with how things are and dropping all ambition confirms what her Hypergamous nature fears most – he’s really incompetent.
This is especially salient when a man trades his ambitions (assuming he had them) for a relationship with her. This reverses the Burden of Performance to her and as a result she feels unloved because her concept of love is founded on his capacity for competence. She feels unloved because opportunism defines her concept of love; and he only confirms his worthlessness by abdicating his Burden of Performance.
From Love Story:
Men are expected to perform. To be successful, to get the girl, to live a good life, men must do. Whether it’s riding wheelies down the street on your bicycle to get that cute girl’s attention or to get a doctorate degree to ensure your personal success and your future family’s, Men must perform. Women’s arousal, attraction, desire and love are rooted in that conditional performance. The degree to which that performance meets or exceeds expectations is certainly subjective, and the ease with which you can perform is also an issue, but perform you must.
A lot of this relates to the standard Mental Point of Origin conversation.
Blue Pill men are conditioned to think two things:
III. You shall make your mission, not your woman, your priority
Forget all those romantic cliches of the leading man proclaiming his undying love for the woman who completes him. Despite whatever protestations to the contrary, women do not want to be “The One” or the center of a man’s existence. They in fact want to subordinate themselves to a worthy man’s life purpose, to help him achieve that purpose with their feminine support, and to follow the path he lays out. You must respect a woman’s integrity and not lie to her that she is “your everything”. She is not your everything, and if she is, she will soon not be anymore.
“The movie I scripted upthread has me in the starring role . . .”
And therein lies the problem. A script I write is not going to be biased by your wish fulfillment.
” . . . you are criticizing a future that you are fundamentally re-writing to suit your conclusion.”
I haven’t written anything about it. I have no idea what it is – and neither do you.
I HATE typing on ipads
Bluetooth keyboards are not expensive nor bluepill.
KFG, the quality of your posts is suffering again. You gave me the impression that you would provide constructive criticism of my vision of retirement. Instead, you just criticized randomly and didn’t provide the basis for it. Now you have stated outright that all you care about and are posting about is your future. Good to know.
AR, on Vaca this week reading a book on the iPad and checking TRM. Too lazy to boot up the laptop.
@KFG “That’s the aspect of it that TRM focuses on.” Being the best man I can be does not come from TRP, it is only informed by it. That’s the aspect of TRP that I focus on, and pretty much all I really focus on or learn about here with TRM. For the many other apects of living well, the world is a treasure trove of insight and information. For example, I scroll right past anything relating to money, politics, style, health, exercise, and any number of other topics being spouted by anyone here, regardless of the actual knowledge or… Read more »
” You gave me the impression that you would provide constructive criticism . . .” What I gave you was an observation. The observation was accurate. You are free to consider or discard it as you wish. I don’t take you for an Orson, so I’m inclined to believe that you will consider it – when you’re ready. “Instead, you just criticized randomly . . .” You criticized the observation, requested that I respond to that, and subsequently stipulated that it was, indeed, a stereotype. “Now you have stated outright that all you care about and are posting about is… Read more »
Ray6777 one woman in particular stopped me in the hall and while looking down at her feet said my change has been amazing. Indication Of Interest from her. There are girls who cannot look a man in the eye when they are really attracted, they look at their shoes…. I was in the gym after work a couple weeks later and she came over to a machine next to me and started exercising. The odd part was she’s still wearing her work clothes (jeans and a sweater.) …and this girl is one of them. Proximity is another Indication of Interest.… Read more »
I would like to meet people outside of work but I’m just trying to get a feel if the different reactions from women are showing interest and I’m not imagining things. I have had several people tell me I look taller because I changed my posture. I used to walk with shoulders slumped and looking down at the ground. Now it’s shoulders back and head up. Here’s one outside of work. There’s a place that has an auction once a week and I would go once a month. I walk in and there’s two woman at the counter. Woman 1… Read more »
Ray6777
Man it’s great to read your improvement
how has your life changed in other ways?
Everyone this has some great stuff an ambition
https://www.generationwealthmovie.com/home/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-b-b1aPF3AIVjVuGCh2fZAU0EAAYASAAEgIqSPD_BwE
Hypergamy and male conquest
Thanks, Marelius.
I’m an introvert so I’ve made an attempt to be more sociable at work. There is a lady who sticks to a healthy diet and we frequently have discussions about healthy foods and exercise. There’s nothing romantic here but it has made me more comfortable about talking to women.
Interesting thread
https://twitter.com/drralphnap/status/1023620940289269760?s=21
Ray6777
That’s a great read man keep it up. I wonder what’s in store for you this week. Do you have any goals or fears that trouble you?
I still have anxiety around attractive women but that’s getting better as I make an effort to talk to women more and feel better abut my appearance. I bought a zoom lens and am working on improving my nature photography on the weekends. In fitness am working to being able to do unassisted pullups (still use 20lbs)
@theasdgamer marelius
“If it broke, the hardest part will likely be figuring out the right size, unless the numbers are still legible on the edge.”
part numbers are usually on a tag in engine compartment or under the seat.
good luck!
“In the big picture of evolution hardcore red pillers/MGTOWs who didn’t reproduce are the losers! Beta blokes who actually “married those sluts” and reproduced are the winners despite being cucked, abandoned or divorce raped.” __________________________ Evolution is an indirect process, not a (formalized) game presided over by some judge & jury. Evolution is an outcome, named by humans. The point can easily be made: “Wow, Peter McAverage in the 16th century was such a great winner! He had a horrible life filled with slave labour, his supposed wife fucked the muscular, funny carnival guys every time they were in town…but… Read more »
Ray6777 – you’re not imagining things.
Trust me on this.
I could give you a long, complicated explanation about the reasons for this etc, but suffice it to say I’ve been where you are and moved on to the next stage – you’re not imagining it.
@Ray6777 – PS, the next step is for you to move the interactions forward (especially with the girls who are not work colleagues, but even with work colleagues).
Just nod and make eye contact and say “hi” or “hello”. Don’t even have to worry about going on a date or asking them out at this stage. Get comfortable doing that, then you can move on to having normal conversations and then dates etc (of course, some of the “hellos” etc will turn into conversations and that’s fine too).
troll alert
Culum, you can have kids and a great life, too. Trust me on this.
SIL is still in a distant city…my plan is, when he and Daughter Gamer move near by, to get him to work with me on a project.
“I have no idea what my future is – and neither do you. On occasion I will drop in bits of what I have done or what I am doing. What is your mission?” My sentiments exactly. X1000. I was going to say something similar a couple days ago in regards to someone who was writing from one of the first four stages in the Five Stages of Unplugging in regards to the potential value in LTR’s with women You can’t call your shots like Babe Ruth, you can’t forcast the way of your relationships, but you can live in… Read more »
Cheating might be legal alienation of affection is.
https://www.cbsnews.com/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab4i
IsntI.
Take two:
Cheating isn’t illegak but alienation of affection is:
https://wlos.com/news/local/north-carolina-man-awarded-88m-from-wifes-boyfriend-after-affair
@MON
It isn’t a zero-sum game. The longer everyone is exposed to each other’s perspective while trying to reconcile their own, the longer people have to adapt to each person’s sense of self-righteous bullshit.
Men are learning to make a different choice with such a thing. That’s all it takes.
Ray6777 July 29, 2018 at 11:47 am Great introduction. I like you already. Get to a point where you are “unflinching” in the presence of a beautiful woman. There is no woman that is out of your league. So don’t settle. Be “in the moment” and unflinching. That’s seen in non-sociopathic psychopaths. Priests and surgeons are psychopathic, in a good way, for good reasons. They have to be unflinching in order to do their work. Kevin Dutton, The Wisdom of Psychopaths: https://www.scientificamerican.com/store/books/the-wisdom-of-psychopaths/ OVERVIEW In this engrossing journey into the lives of psychopaths and their infamously crafty behaviors, the renowned psychologist… Read more »
@EHIntellect
The husband was said to be “controlling” and “manipulative”, the man from Texas (Hulzer) is appealing the verdict. North Carolina is one of the few states that still has “alienation of affection” laws. I wonder how long before the conservative feminists decide that has to go away?
Kfg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrVyXdwft8E&feature=em-uploademail
https://wp.me/pXWyH-dQv
Brutal display of AF/BB
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-27048-post-1810372.html#pid1810372
@Ray6777
Your positive story is great to hear. I think one thing you’ve done with the women you know is stir up their curiosity. They’re wondering how and why you whipped yourself into shape, and especially are you “seeing someone” — here, there and/or elsewhere.
What’s been the reaction of guys you know? Are they a dreary bunch you want to set yourself apart from, or are there some solid people you can learn from, gain social validation from and so on?
Also what triggered your newfound dedication to self-improvement? Sorry if I missed you mention something already.
The response has been pretty positive from guys at work. There is increased respect because I can stick to a good diet and they can’t or won’t. One guy at work I think is naturally good at what I think would be considered game (teasing, negs) and I’ve picked up some things from observing him. He’s the cad that women say they don’t like but it’s obvious they do like. I’m careful about this stuff at work but I see a guy everyday who handles women pretty well. This started with me recognizing i have to lose weight because i… Read more »
Bravo.
Ray, ultimately, it’s about self-respect. Once you have that, self-confidence follows. Then women, etc.
In a coincidence with Ray’s story I saw a guy on another site just today ask how he can become more socially confident and less anxious, with meeting more women a big part of the goal. It’s a good website but the commentariat is rationalist, libertarian, “effective altruist,” etc. and the responses were weak: alcohol, weed, pharmaceuticals, cognitive therapy, gradual immersion. Improv was not a bad idea, maybe. I tried to briefly help by suggesting that maybe some added physical activity would improve his looks, posture, sleep and confidence. The point is, this guy would benefit from TRM but I… Read more »
I’m not that dumb and I don’t have One-itis, but I had difficulty understanding a concept in a Tweet by Rollo today. And I’m not sure why it matters. It was the thing about Neil Strauss saying: “”Love is basically ONEitis between two people.” https://twitter.com/RationalMale/status/1023977572701364233 Then Rollo answers a question in saying that One-Itis reduces polarity. One-Itis is Beta and unattractive and “the one that has the most Power is the one that needs the other Less”. I don’t get the lack of polarity angle as explained in the Twitter feed. I don’t understand the jump from One-itis is weak… Read more »
One-itis is bad. No place for it in a marriage or LTR.
ONE – itis. One. Not two. It takes two to polarize.
J
Not sure where you see beta bux? This girl – who is in the top 5 in looks of 101 banged by the poster btw – was also being banged by the “BB”… Could be a BP Alpha guy from his response.
Strauss deleted his original post. IMO, *oneitis* between two people is not love, it is emotional codependency. When one partner is ABSOLUTELY sure the other partner will never leave the relationship (due to the soul mate myth), human nature is to take that person for granted and even eventually resent him/her. So if BOTH partners have oneitis for each other (again, emotional codependency), the healthy push-pull tension between partners binds up, polarity is removed and the pressure due to relationship inertia builds to critical mass. Guess which sex is wired to then break this inertia first? (Sometimes in a spectacular… Read more »
Ajax
“Love is the realization that it is uncertain, fragile and, in an instant, can disappear from your life.”
Than where gone
4:43
And I’m alarmed my blood sugar is low.
And my wife is sleeping downstairs from me. I’m upstairs in my castle. She’s down on the couch.
We had a discussion last night regarding my re-writing some rules.
I temporarily won
Sweet Jesus Kfg.
I get it, now.
So, what I just did was go get her. Have her lie with me upstairs. And have me.
Thanks, kfg. High five to you for the correct, simple, pithy answer.
5:23, got my blood sugar to 86 mg/dl.
Sweet.
I feel good. Life is Beautiful on occasion.
It takes two to polarize.
Charge and ground. Ground is non-polar. Maintaining attraction requires AC because charge will trickle off over time for DC systems. Energy must be input to system to maintain attraction. But girls aren’t ground…they have finite ability to maintain neutral charge, so charge can be induced.
Game. Love. Match.
When men get lazy women feel [that the man is basely turning himself into a less efficacious, dependable, “hard-working”, useful tool than he were when the deal was struck: “how unfair”, the female moans] discared, and hurt in their love feelings: it’s true love kids, #trustgoodmothernature.
Gaps filled.
Lol
From. Rollo’s tweeter
https://www.twitter.com/pachkacigaret/status/1024068654378434562
Useful tool?
@Sentient
“Hypergamy doesn’t care, volume MXMXVII”
Guy’s name is Lancelot. Enjoy the double entendre.
Ambition and Love
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sSLb3COkAHg&feature=em-uploademail
Stress and performance and improvement. Learning to play and have fun, while crafting and creating the best of ones self.
Love who for they are not for who you want them to be
https://wp.me/p5TnzE-1g0
As all born teachers, he was primarily a student.
Steven Pressfield,
M O N
You must act like a man. Master your feelings. You’re not the only man who has felt those feelings. Women live in their feelings. We men must not let our feelings hold us back from what is in our best interest.
@ Razorwire “I’ve held my standards firm and so i’ve effectively priced myself out of the market. Which is no doubt a big part of why i’ve found no shortage of “interested” women. But a dearth of women who have held their own value. All of the interested women confirm their post-epoiphany rewrite poste haste. At this point, I can say their lines better then they can. Much disappointment when I don’t buy into it. But also much sexy time and many “rules” being broken on their part. Even the ones who aren’t total shit shows indulge in the carousel… Read more »
“Whenever I think of my lost unproductive years of my life, I want to get it back . . . I’m 19” Dude, get a grip. The average age at which men have their first child is 32. You’re still just starting out. You’ve still got 15 years to go before you even get in the maximum SMV range. You’re acting like a 5 year old who’s upset he can’t go on the same rides that his 10 year older brother can. Settle down, start reading the site from The Best of Year One, ask viable questions when you need… Read more »
Here’s a beginning tip:
Take all that rage that you’re putting into self-destructive behavior and channel it into self-constructive behavior. Think “Oh yeah? Well I’ll show you” while you’re doing it if you have to, like Teddy “Rough Rider” Roosevelt did.
@ MON
Lots of unearned anger there.
Why do you want to have kids immediately? No snark question. What’s the rush?
He opened his eyes and they hurt.
Another thing, as said above, you’re a whirlwind of emotion.
Accurately self-reflect with untrammeled vision.
Aka, ease up.
“Think “Oh yeah? Well I’ll show you” while you’re doing it if you have to, like Teddy “Rough Rider” Roosevelt did.” When Teddy Roosevelt was 8 years old and was cooped up inside in constraining environments in New York City, barely able to breathe. Because of asthma. The only practical remedies for asthma at the time were coffee and cigars. So he smoked cigars and drank coffee. As he got older and started to do masculine activities to get stronger and self improve, in essence, he told himself: I’m never fucking going to let that happen to me again! (be… Read more »
Idk. Men can do without the ruthlessness portion. Most men don’t have ” ruthlessness and will be unable to cultivate it, which is perfectly fine. Growing up I had to deal with some truly ruthless motherfuckers, and has to learn how to put them on their backs. The sphere goes just a little sideways with advice for men to develop certain darker sides. Most guys will never be able to do this without a) failing or b) going overboard and miscalibrating. Guys that have dark ability naturally don’t have to ” the hard ” per se, but only need to… Read more »
All of those things on the list exist on a spectrum. A lion that isn’t at least ruthless enough to kill a gazelle isn’t going much of anywhere.
Even in simple self-defense you have to be at least ruthless enough to be more concerned about protecting your own ass than your attacker’s ass.
“The problem with a lot of people is that what they think is a virtue is actually a vice in disguise. It’s much easier to convince yourself that you’re reasonable and civilized than soft and weak, isn’t it?” “Good men sleep peacefully in their beds at night,” George Orwell once pointed out, “because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” –regarding ruthlessness in The Wisdom of Psychopaths Regarding the relationship between psychopathic and spiritual states: You don’t have to have narcissism, Impulsivity, lack of conscience, manipulativeness, pathological lying and coldheartedness (psychopathic traits). You don’t have to have… Read more »
Agreed. But in most instances while reading in the sphere, I’ve seen a few guys that have pledged to be more ruthless and zfg in life and in dealing with women more specifically, and it’s apparent that they are clueless concerning what it actually means to develop ruthlessness outside of a cartoonish portrayal. We have a couple of guys here ( no names….but y’all should all know if you’re regular readers ) that believe that becoming a raging asshole is the way to go, but what they write sounds mostly like the rambling of a man going mad. When I… Read more »
“I’ve seen a few guys that have pledged to be more ruthless and zfg in life and in dealing with women more specifically . . .”
The fact that they misunderstand the concept of dominance doesn’t denigrate the concept of dominance. It isn’t dominance that needs to be done away with, it’s their misconception.
Lotta, not ” gotta “.😡
“Most guys will never be able to do this without a) failing or b) going overboard and miscalibrating. Guys that have dark ability naturally don’t have to ” the hard ” per se, but only need to harness it properly.
Faulty generalization and nadir fallacy.
Of course one needs to harness properly.
Kfg😁 my ability to argue with reason and logic is severly compromised due to a lack of adequate fat intake this morning.
“Lotta men given to extremes. More than I can ever recall.”
I’ve noticed more chaos in inter-sexual dynamics lately. Less security. More forced, less organic adventure. Anyone else notice that? (rhetorical question, don’t answer). What do you think other men should do about that?
“What do you think other men should do about that?”
Find a hill. Plant your flag on it. Accept the fact that there are going to be casualties and that you might well be one of them.
Ok. Plant the flag. What happens when someone want to knock you off? How willing are you to hold on to your shit? Blax doesn’t recommend being ruthless. Ahem, Blax beat a man into the hospital with a crowbar. Blax self addmitted to having little guilt accrued in his life. Oh sure, the guy attacked him first. Blsx, why not find a ruthless -1 method to deal with it? Talk him down from the errors of his ways? Because with you, Blax, ruthless begets ruthless. Though your advising others to take the high road is getting in the way of… Read more »
Btw,
The woman’s name “Ruth” means “compassion”.
Palma / Fox
“How you getting on with the music?”
How you getting on with the moving???
Guys, I really think ASD was correct about the MON Troll. Sounds like a bot to boot. Certainly not to be taken seriously, at any rate.
I myself live on a farm about 30 minutes out of town. Now that the last kid has flown the coop I’m selling the damn thing and moving to the city, preferable close to a university.
MON
https://youtu.be/Hz0-_C-4vgY?list=PLXlcdsHfA4Aas1-KTPfEdqW2Lu-eQIzVS
Working with goals and getting to the top self version of oneself.
I Found this really informative
Ambition and Culture
Hey there Palma & Sentient Cheers for checking in with me & the compliment Palma. I have had them falling at my feet for a long time. Just not at the moment, for some reason, but they will be again soon enough… I’ve been pretty focused on my goal of getting out of here by next down under winter (June 2019). So i’ve come up with a plan to get some $ together (including selling some of my land), shifting into my Loft (for when i’m here) & renting the main house out, so i need to keep my nose… Read more »
The fact that he would entertain the idea of a relationship with you disqualifies him from being “Red Pill”. Exactly! Men can not “win” in todays world of “sexually liberated” and “emancipated” woman. Everything is stacked against him – gynocentrism, hypergamy, family courts and frustrated white knights. In times when “Old Book” rules were in force, men was able to secure his need for sexual release when he needed it most in his twenties and thirties at cost of surrendering his options to one female (marrying) and taking care of her add offspring. He needed not to be worried about… Read more »
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So I have been married for 19 years now. There have been 2 times where I have fought to keep the marriage going when my wife was looking for the door. Knowing that the divorce and family court system and attached agencies are gynocentric and designed to destroy the male and strip all financial assets from him. I dug in my heels and fought to keep the marriage together. I have been reading this red pill information and now at 48. I look to pass on the knowledge of red pill, Hypergamy, monkey branching to younger men before they end… Read more »
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