How women and a feminine-primary social order control men by reserving the title of “manhood” for men who comply with female primacy.
In the Manosphere we often discuss the dynamic of men holding the burden of 100% responsibility yet are conferred 0% authority when it comes to intersexual relationships. This didn’t used to be the case. There was a kind of default authority imbued in men that was part of simply being a male under the old social contract. A lot of western societies still presumes this is the case in fact. It’s one reason popular culture presumes such a thing as ‘male privilege‘ exists today. They may even have a case with respect to the Old Set of Books; being a “man” inferred that a male had some degree of power, authority and decision making capacity over the course his life would take, as well as the lives of any women or children or extended family members who were dependent upon him being a “man”.
Responsibility is what defines men to this day, but the utility in this being hammered home into the psyches of men has become something the Feminine Imperative has found very useful in consolidating power in the hands of women. We’re ceaselessly told that responsibility is something men need to assume, but under the old set of books the incentive for a man assuming that responsibility came with a commensurate portion of authority (power). That was what used to earn a man the title of “manhood”; men were expected to possess the competency to produce surplus resources, enough to ensure the security and survival of his immediate and extended family, and then his tribe, his clan, his nation, etc. We still call this “being a productive member of society”, but now the incentives of a default authority that made assuming that responsibility a reasonable exchange have been stripped away along with all the grounding that a family name or tribal identity used to mean to men. In their place is all the same expectation of responsibility, but not even the pretense of male authority that stems from it.
In prior posts I’ve defined power thusly:
Real Power is the degree to which a person has control over their own circumstances. Real Power is the degree to which we control the directions of our lives.
How many men today have real power; power to direct the course of their own lives? As we commit to various aspects of life, family, business, the military, a woman, we incrementally exchange power for responsibility. Wealth often enforces will, but unless we can be one of the moneyed outliers in life there is no true authority granted to men now in exchange for that responsibility. A man who would even presume to use an authority that might still be implied in these exchanges is labeled a tyrant; a vestige of a Patriarchy that’s now painted as a net negative to society. And that’s just the societal level. In a legal sense that man has no authority with respect to his power over virtually every aspect of his interactions with women or a wife. A gynocentric social order’s prime directive has been to remove all vested male authority and by extension almost all power the man has to dierct the course of his own life.
There are numerous ways a feminine-primary social order removes the teeth from male authority today. First and foremost is the social pretense of blank-slate equalism. A default presumption that men and women are coequal agents in every aspect – physical, emotional, psychological, intellectual – is the cover story necessary to remove an authority that was based on the conventional differences between the sexes. To the blank-slate equalist gender is a social construct, but gender is only the starting point for a social constructionist belief set. Social constructionism is a necessary foundation upon which blank-slate equalism is built, but ultimately it’s a means of control. By denying each sex its innate differences social constructionism denies men their innate advantages and strengths. Once this became the normalized social convention it was a simple step to remove male authority.
In order to destroy that authority it was necessary to destroy men’s grounding in the identity of their own gender. The first step was to deliberately confuse men about the evolved nature of conventional masculinity. Thus, masculinity became subjective. Never has the idea of being a ‘man’ more reviled, obfuscated, blurred, ridiculed, demonized and loathed by men themselves. Wait for the “masculinity is toxic” articles to follow the next mass shooting incident. The worst shame, the worst clichéd vitriol, will come from male authors stepping up to apologize to women on behalf of all men for the violent ignorance of what they think is a learned toxic masculinity. It’s these Vichy men who’ve been taught that gender is a social construct, so there’s really no definitive answer to what makes a man a Man. These ‘men’ who’ve been conditioned in their feminine-primary upbringing who are so confused or gender-loathing with respect to masculinity that they feel compelled to believe they speak for all of ‘mankind’ when they apologize for all of us.
Blank-Slate Equals
But none of this works unless men and women are blank-slate equals. One reason a guy like James Damore is hammered down and erased with such zealotry for suggesting men and women are inherently different is because so much of gynocentrism rides on the social belief in the blank-slate. What’s offensive about it isn’t the idea that men and women might be prone to innately different strengths or weaknesses so much as it’s about the entire system scaffolded by the falsity of equalism.
You see, the confusion, the subjectification of masculinity has a design underneath it. This confusion is a means of control; a means of not just denying men authority, but to systematically remove anything inherently male from the whole system. I’ve detailed this removing the man in prior essays so I wont dig into it here, but it’s a means of control in an age when men are expected to know their utility and their role in women’s sexual and life strategies.
As we progress towards a social order based on a consolidated gynocracy it becomes more important that men not only be confused about masculinity, but also that men be dispersed and isolated. Men who would challenge this social order must be made into suspects and the suspicious of an “outdated masculinity” – a masculinity that pretends to be about innate authority based on evolved gender differences. Male Spaces must be outlawed, ostensibly for the misogyny they will surely lead to, but actually because men gathered together as men is a threat to a gynocentric power base. This is why the Manosphere and events like the 21 Conventions are so egregious to the feminine-primary social order; they connect men and their experiences about women. So men must be taught to be suspicious of each other. While masculinity might be loathed or confused, men gathered together can only mean homosexuality – because what other purpose could men exclusively gather for other than to fuck one another?
This is where the facade of blank-slate equalism conveniently slips when it suits the purpose of gynocentrism. Men and women can be innately different, but only on the occasions when innate differences would prove that men are violent, abusive, potential rapists, sex addicts or incorrigible homosexuals. On those occasions, the occasions when it serves the Feminine Imperative, women will gladly agree that Boys will be Boys and men are naturally beasts. Through this caveat in the blank-slate society men can be justifiably hated for being men if only because some nebulous male-chauvinist ‘society’ taught them to be so. So the clichés and the old lies get perpetuated because only a belief in the ‘masculinity-is-toxic’ narrative can justify teaching the next generation of boys to hate their own sex and sustain a gynocracy.
Men must be taught to hate themselves for their maleness. Thus, a form of institutionalized gaslighting of men about the nature of masculinity became necessary, and it is primarily men who sustain it. When men are conditioned to be both gender loathing and suspicious of the worst aspects of ‘masculinity’ in other men the result is a self-perpetuating cycle of policing ones thoughts while policing the thoughts of other men. There’s a default belief that this policing is part of identifying with the feminine that will make these Vichy Males more attractive to women of the gynocracy.
But what makes a man a Man in this social order?
As we’ve moved from a blank-slate basis of gender to an ambiguous, subjective definition of what a man is the Feminine Imperative has found a utility in assigning the title of ‘manhood’ to whichever man best exemplifies this utility to the gynocentric social order. In other words, the more a man meets the shifting needs of women the likelier he is to merit the title of being a “man” or a “real man”. In fact we hear this last one all the time in the memes that serve the Feminine Imperative. A “real man” does [insert whatever serves women’s long term sexual strategy] and Betas gleefully retweet it to prove their quality. In our feminine-correct paradigm, the authority that was inherent in masculinity which allowed men to declare what qualities make a ‘man’ has been casually assumed by women to be tossed around as whim and necessity makes convenient.
In Rites of Passage I elaborated on how, to an older conventional masculinity, Manhood was something merited and conferred onto a boy by his adult male peers. There were rites of passage, rituals, tests and qualifiers that transitioned boys into the world of men. This was a part of his grounding in a tribal belonging that used to at least somewhat direct his purpose in life. To be a ‘Man’ was to be a part of a sum whole – E Pluribus Unum, out of many, one. It was the collective of men who conferred manhood onto another. How this actually played out in real life and the integrity of that collective was always particular to the character of the tribe, but prior to the rise of gynocentrism conferring manhood on an individual was something unique to masculinity.
Today, the Feminine Imperative’s efforts to disempower and subdue men means destroying the legitimacy of the tribal aspects of all this. As I mentioned earlier, men gathering together, and pretending to authority is something threatening to a gynocentric power structure. Destroying, shaming, ridiculing, etc. the whole of men, keeping them dispersed and isolated, meant usurping the authority men had in assigning ‘manhood’ to one another.
Aspects of the old masculine social order, including men’s natural inclinations towards duty and honor amongst each other, have always been dynamics that could be turned to the uses of the Feminine Imperative.
From The Honor System:
Man Up or Shut Up – The Male Catch 22
One of the primary way’s Honor is used against men is in the feminized perpetuation of traditionally masculine expectations when it’s convenient, while simultaneously expecting egalitarian gender parity when it’s convenient.
For the past 60 years feminization has built in the perfect Catch 22 social convention for anything masculine; The expectation to assume the responsibilities of being a man (Man Up) while at the same time denigrating asserting masculinity as a positive (Shut Up). What ever aspect of maleness that serves the feminine purpose is a man’s masculine responsibility, yet any aspect that disagrees with feminine primacy is labeled Patriarchy and Misogyny.
Essentially, this convention keeps beta males in a perpetual state of chasing their own tails. Over the course of a lifetime they’re conditioned to believe that they’re cursed with masculinity (Patriarchy) yet are still responsible to ‘Man Up’ when it suits a feminine imperative. So it’s therefore unsurprising to see that half the men in western society believe women dominate the world (male powerlessness) while at the same time women complain of a lingering Patriarchy (female powerlessness) or at least sentiments of it. This is the Catch 22 writ large. The guy who does in fact Man Up is a chauvinist, misogynist, patriarch, but he still needs to man up when it’s convenient to meet the needs of a female imperative.
In a gynocentric social order both the concept of honor and masculine responsibility is set by whatever is ‘correct’ for feminine utility. If that means only ‘real men‘ do something to satisfy women’s imperatives, it implies that men who don’t are ‘false men’. Those men are outside the tribe called ‘men’ as well as being unacceptable for reproduction, intimacy and love.
It also implies that only women have the authority to bestow ‘Manhood’ on men, and then only for performing specific behaviors or believing correct beliefs as set by womankind. It’s as if women uniquely hold the ‘medal of manhood‘ to give exclusively to men who can qualify for her wanton needs. The authority men used to claim innate legitimacy of in the past is now only legitimate when a woman wields it.
Men need to retake this authority and own it as is their birthright once again. I realize that sounds kind of LARPy but it’s the best way I can put it. One thing the Red Pill has made men aware of is the social machinations of the Feminine Imperative. Amongst Traditional Conservative ‘thought leaders’ a popular idea is that we find ourselves in the intersexual conditions we do today because men have dropped the ball. Men have shirked their manly responsibilities and women are the way they are because not enough men care to correct women’s behaviors. This argument fails on two counts. The first is that it presumes women bear no moral or behavioral agency and as such cannot be blamed for their own participation in our social condition. This presumption, I should add, is actually indicative of exactly the manipulation of honor I mentioned above.
And secondly, more importantly, it presumes men hold an authority they simply don’t have. Even claiming masculine authority would smack of misogyny today. Churchy, moralists pretend that men have a headship / authority that our gynocentric social order empirically contradicts. To paraphrase the MGTOWs, your headship counts for shit when all a woman has to do is call 911 and police will physically remove what you think is your authority from the family home, no questions asked. This is a result of the Duluth Model of Feminism which I’ll be covering in an upcoming part of this series on Male Authority, but the short version is feminism’s design is to remove men, maleness, masculinity from our social consciousness and this begins and ends with which gender has an enforceable authority.
There are guys who’ll challenge this idea of female authority. Red Pill thought emphasizes men disconnecting their sense of identity from a female-correct paradigm. In my own work I’ve stressed that the most important aspect of Red Pill awareness is men making themselves their Mental Point of Origin and this necessitates a realigning of oneself as his first priority. It’s easy to make declarations about how your self-worth begins and ends with you and that no woman can influence that image, and in a way that seems liberating. Like you’re taking at least that much authority back for yourself. But it’s another thing entirely to wrestle with a social order that’s now founded on a consolidated female-primary authority.
In the coming series I’ll get more into this question as well as what men can do to take back the authority of assigning manhood. Thanks for reading, more to come.
“Do you think Blax is in my head, or that I’m in his? I know the answer to that question, and I don’t need to present it in some overly arch, convoluted way in a desperate attempt to show that I’m smart”.. That’s not the right question. That’s just Frame battling other men who are voices on the internet. The real question is who are you, what are you, how do you see you in your head? I consider Chaos exists in Scribb’s brain. Chaos is a feminine thing. But even though he is a masculine man, the women caused… Read more »
Orson
from Advocatus Diaboli blog
what do ya all think?
“Poolside” is a legit point of view. It’s short term thinking, though, a lot like a 25 year old girl on the cock carousel.
“Yer doin’ it all wrong, do it MY WAY” is a boring point of view that men get pushed with from all sides.
Black pill thinking often leads to despair, and despair kills men.
So I won’t be expending time at that blog.
That’s what I think.
In-group malice and out-group altruism is what Scribbler is railing against with the historical and Marxist and anti-leftist rants. It is proper to rail against that because the natural progression of that is Dis-Order.
If the in-group is Americans, you are correct. By the same token, then, Blax is promoting Dis-Order. But if Blax’s group is black men, not Americans, then Blax is promoting Order. Of course, if you are a member of Blax’s out-group, then you should read his shit accordingly.
Right. Choose sides. Lmao.
We evidently will never learn.
Men are men are men are men……etc.
Btw, I was born in Virginia. Stop ” othering ” me. And ancestraly, I’m more ‘ American ‘ than you, you newcomer.😁
“what do ya all think?”
Who wants to be an average guy? Or use conventional sources?
‘Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people.’
Attributed to Socrates
“I was born in Virginia.”
North of Fauquier County doesn’t count. 😉
Male authority and being the Romantic
@kfg “@scribblerg in my opinion is accurate on the theory aspect of the current time . . .” I disagree with him. I think it quite likely that the US will divide into 6 countries. Peacefully. why 6?… and what are the characteristics of those countries?… how do they form up their teams?… i’m not as hopeful as you are on the ‘peaceful’… that would actually be somewhat of a unique one-off in the history of the world… but you would probably know of any of those exceptions…lol… sooo, have there been?… That’s when the slaughter will start, as each… Read more »
@Fox – Blax’s views and mine are orthogonal. He in no way is about implementing what I observe and analyze about history or our politics. Fyi, here’s an open challenge to any one of you fucks here – we can go on my anonymous YouTube channel and debate say the Marxist and Socialist roots of our demise, starting with say Fourier in the early 19th century and move forward from there. Any takers? Just be prepared, like the only guy I wouldn’t debate in the public intellectual sphere is Greg Johnson from CounterCurrents. And even then, I’m developing as deep… Read more »
how are you getting to those odds?… serious question… bc all i’m seeing is the system melting down… like a slow motion train wreck I think that the right will get slaughtered, no matter their pro-gun mouthings. Unless you are willing to use guns to end tyranny, their effectiveness as a hedge against tyranny is zero. The left is well-organized for violence, but the right is only organized for running their mouths. If we see some instances of tens of thousands on the right taking to the streets with guns, then maybe they won’t get slaughtered. I’m working on my… Read more »
Hint: The “canary in the mine” is the lack of reproduction. That makes two of us who see this as a major problem. He’s not capable of it, he doesn’t have the intellectual depth to conceive of what must be done and where we need to get to. Trump’s an old fart with good instincts. However, his good instincts have been suborned by his women. He needs to make them non-advisors. His weakness is perceptible and cost his people votes. Trump should have doubled down on being firm and resolved and instead caved on some immigration issues. He also failed… Read more »
“North Korea is working with hard core Leftist forces in South Korea (like the President of South Korea who is a North Korean and China leaning radical leftist freakshow) to eliminate us from the peninsula, with the NK regime still in place. A massive victory for China…” Our forces have been there for decades ostensibly to prevent a DPRK invasion. The DPRK will not invade. South Korea is a regime-ending trap to a North Korean invasion. Trump understands this… and is the first president to encourage the honeypot and call the North Korean bluff. Disarmament of the JSA is a… Read more »
Probably SK will unite with NK in a somewhat weak form of socialism.
The DPRK is like a biological weapon. South Korea can’t open the floodgates to that….nor can China. It would devastate both economies. Most of the decades of DPRK appeasement weren’t a reaction to fear of military invasion as much as human invasion.
“why 6?…” Ultimately happenstance. “… and what are the characteristics of those countries?… how do they form up their teams?… ” Relative cultural cohesion and natural power bases and along those lines. Yankeeland, Dixie, Texas, Nuevo Mexico/California, Northwest, Chicagoland. The Dakotas are a no man’s land, landlocked and without a natural place in the Northwest, Chicagoland or Texas and will be pretty well fucked. “sooo, have there been?…” It is not uncommon for empires to fall before they even realize they are falling, simply by not being able to exert power over their dominions. Going as far back as united… Read more »
Too bad hank ain’t here😁
Lower Egypt actually took over upper Egypt for a time. They ruled then left.
I took every history class available in high school, even ap/college classes, and never heard one word about this. Rome is.fascinating, but the truth of it isn’t taught.
At the end of the day, the U.S.is the new Roman empire. The only this missing is the full integration of a religious cult into the government. And it’s been happening a very, very long time ( even before feminism). Yes it is a slow motion melt down, but that’s why it’s effective. China, Venezuela, India, Russia looking to kill our take money’s reserve currency status.😂 res Our biggest debtor thinking about selling all of the U.S.debt they hold. Cheers to tax cuts for the wealthy as deficits said to new heights – and we can’t pay our debt. Armies… Read more »
Interesting discussion on the future. The current cultural battle is between the founders’ vision that created limits on power causing the people to solve their own damn problems, and progressivism that is attempting to use top down decision making without any negative feedback when bad decisions are made. The outcome of each vision can be directly observed on the American Indian Reservations and in the Amish communities. I’ve lived in close proximity to both. Their cultures are about as opposite as you can get. Wilsonian democracy is progressivism. It is top down management by self interested bureaucrats that created a… Read more »
“It is better to have nothing except your victim card.”
They have already begun fighting to take even victim cards away.
All normal people draw upon the media what “reality” (including honor, dignity, morality) is. When Hollywood, and all the miniaturw hollywoods of all the West, and all the Western social media and every webzine (targeting every rank of intellect) most grotesquely defame men as a category and spur women to offend and abuse men — there you will get what we have today. They only barely pretend to want equality. A way or another, the behaviour of.the 90% of them on social media as well as dating sites is: men must lick my boots to begin with, then maybe I’ll… Read more »
Beelz
Remember, women.don’t have power. What they have is men exercising power on their behalf.
Them crazy broads – that will always be inaccurate. Kne.cannot point to one action taken an masse by large d groups of women violently overthrowing men. Not one.
It ain’t about them.
As long as I am on the subject of the Left, Lennon’s rise to power is a lesson we should all know. Solzhenitsyn asked the question on whether Joe Stalin could have been a great enough genius to have created such a diabolical system that broke social order through fear and mistrust. By asking this question Solzhenitsyn seems to be saying the system appears organic rather than planned. This, if I am understanding Solzhenitsyn correctly, is the only time I don’t agree with his conclusion. There is a diabolical simplicity in what Lennon / Trotsky created and Joe Stalin wielded… Read more »
Here, augment yerselfs.
https://www.cnet.com/news/meet-the-grinders-hacking-their-bodies-for-better-sex/
Blax – I seem to have lost the second part of my rant. Maybe it was flagged and will show up later.
Of course women don’t have power. The second part of my rant goes into more detail if it ever shows up.
As long as I am on the subject of the Left, Lennon’s rise to power is a lesson we should all know
I agree. George is no longer with us, but Ringo and Paul still have a lot to answer for.
“I agree. George is no longer with us, but Ringo and Paul still have a lot to answer for.” I believe we are all accountable only to ourselves. Speaking of the younger Lennon, this is a man who became one of the 0.01% by singing about a world without possessions. This is absolutely brilliant. If John was still among the living, I wonder how agreeable he would be if I stopped by to play his guitar, drink his beers, and sleep in his bed. The really crazy thing is no one called him on his bullshit while he was still… Read more »
The really crazy thing is no one called him on his bullshit while he was still kicking.
Mark David Chapman disagrees.
I seem to have lost the second part of my rant. Maybe it was flagged and will show up later.
I’m sure everyone is looking forward to that…
“I agree. George is no longer with us, but Ringo and Paul still have a lot to answer for.”
It was actually John, but I missed that too above. Can you imagine singing about a world without possessions and NOT having everyone you know stop by to drink your beer? How does it happen with celebrities that they are never called on their bullshit? And how does anyone not only get away with this shit, but also make a fortune with it?
Why am I thinking about “A Fish Called Wanda?” lol
Beelz
It’s not teh left. Nor right. It’s men, and it’s both.
Both sides pointing and accusing while both carry out the agendas for women.
But the fightt is too good to stop now. Fever pitch approaching. Super nova shiny objects.
The levers of power in both sides are at fault. The 1800’s are an unimportant distraction regarding where we are NOW.
Heh Heh hee
Blax discussing politics with @beelz and not with @scribs is akin to only talking to one personality of the skitz at the bus station.
https://media.edweb.net/edWebinar/?view=20181115edweb28
Service in Marines authority of Self
Men must be taught to hate themselves for their maleness. Thus, a form of institutionalized gaslighting of men about the nature of masculinity became necessary, and it is primarily men who sustain it.
This seems to me to be using the same mechanisms that occur in abused children who, being unable to conceive of their parent being a monster, intuit that it must be they who is the the monster.
@kfg
“The partition of India was done peacefully. The transition was not. There will be blood.”
The coin of exchange for the purchase of freedom is not gold & silver, but rather steel and blood.
Boulder 😁 I look at the discussion you allude to like this here: Me: someone is throwing people off the top of 1 world trade. He: pffttt. You are to dumb to understand how gravity works. Me: wait, but what does that have to do with a murderer throwing people off the tip of the building? He: get this, you don’t know anything about Newton. Most guys here will never get the force that attracts a body toward the center of the earth, or toward any other physical body having mass. It took me a long time but I’m finally… Read more »
LOL
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Well Lennon purged Best… So there is that.
Be aware
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/11/14/comcast-fires-proud-boys-employee/
We are not far from the day where your coworker seeing TRM on your screen over your shoulder results in a similar outcome.
#MeToo becoming #HimToo
I look at the discussion you allude to like this here:
[Discussion is about our civilization getting fucked over]
Me: someone is throwing people off the top of 1 world trade.
Everyone else ignores Blax’s distraction. Blax keeps on dancing, hoping to derail the discussion.]
Don’t go to work and don’t stand to close to tall buildings.
@Blaximus, ok that was funny and made me chuckle, as I said his stuff is more historical/theory based, it’s representative of anger and as SJF put it chaos, needed no doubt but not suited for implementation. With regards to co-workers , corporate life , yeah it’s become a minefield. If you give off an Alpha vibe you get plenty of IOIs but even if Alpha it can blow up in your face. I was chuckling because the HR lady was giving me IOIs at one point, I can’t go behind enemy lines if what I told my buddy. Women pretty… Read more »
“Well Lennon purged Best… So there is that.”
He must’ve done a great job.
I’ve never even heard of comrade Best!
Asd You don’t easily grasp humor huh? And fwiw, I could say roses smell good and ” he ” will show up and attack . That’s my larger point. I get it. I know you are another one that could talk shit about Marxist and socialism and minorities and all of that standard shit some older vanilla Isis dudes live for. And y’all hate anyone correcting the falseness, or making fun of your ” 100 years ago ” constant bullshit. Fear, anger, weakness, mental disorder. See the pattern? no? Because nobody calls you or ” him ” out on that… Read more »
@Anon – You simply do not have the insights on the negotiations and politics of NK and SK that I have. You are operating at a political headline level, I’m sharing facts from people close to the admin in natsec and diplomatic roles currently or formerly who know what’s actually going on (hint, they aren’t right wing dingbats with Youtube channels…). At this instant, SK and NK are negotiating a reunification that removes U.S. forces from the Korean peninsula. Try and fit this into your simplistic model. What happens when SK tells us to go and reunification starts with Kim… Read more »
@Blax
There are people that take this shit seriously as if they have something to lose. Almost like all this shit was theirs in the first place instead of on loan from a bank and worn out or broken before it is paid for. Then elect a bankers kid president and bitch because bankruptcy reform. Then elect another lawyer and bitch because medical prices and pill prices.
😂😂
1 trick.
Show of hands, how many agree with the assessment above?
( I already I is that no one will answer honestly, and that’s why we are consistently treated to paragraphs of driving and driving about similar concepts and ‘ history ‘ head after year.)
He insults and tells everybody to have a nice day or conquer the world. 😂😂
…. I don’t know about yall.
….love the crazy.
“Try and fit this into your simplistic model. What happens when SK tells us to go and reunification starts with Kim still at the helm in NK? What do you think Trump can actually do to stop it?” Okay, I give up. What happens exactly? South Korea’s economy is in the toilet already. Moon is enormously unpopular. They can’t absorb the economy of millions of unwashed masses with parasites and raw corn in their gullets. And winter is coming. Say we leave, KJU is and the DPRK invades… lack of defenses, unarmed soldiers, cleared pathways, THAAD offline due to protester… Read more »
“I said his stuff is more historical/theory based.” So what? The point is this: Any combination or level of intelligence, power, ambition without kindness and forgiveness devolves into grisly war, death. Always. We’re not lacking historical intelligence here. Fact: The man is falling from the building. Physicist: I predict the man will fall 32′ in the first second, 64′ in the next. The law of falling bodies tells me so. I will determine his velocity at impact. I help people know falling off building stuff with this knowledge. Psychologist: Why is this man falling from the building? Did his mother-in-law… Read more »
@Beelze – Spitting some serious truth. Wilson may have been one of the most destructive POTUS’s in U.S. history. He was really the first U.S. globalist with a complete vision of a Progressive Utopia. He was a huge fan of Italian and other brands of fascism and was also quite friendly with communists. Progressivism is best seen a formalization of the general idea of “socialism” (not Marx’s scientific socialism), really no different from say how John Rawls visualized it in his ’72 work, “A Theory of Justice”. Side note, Bill Clinton (huge POS who betrayed our nation to Islamic terrorists… Read more »
Here’s a question: If South Korea wants us to go, why wouldn’t we go? We are there at the behest of their government. We’ve been trying to hand over control of ROK forces for years (OPCON transfer), only now have we succeeded (hand over paper work has just been signed…transfer won’t happen until 2020s though). We’ve been pulling forces back for years, closing bases in the ROK.
Last. Re: SJF doing more juvenile, asinine psychological analysis. A few observations… 1. SJF is a cosmetic surgeon I believe. No psychiatric credentials. Hint: Reducing PTSD to “chaos in the brain” is a throwaway line, not an insight. It’s the kind of thing someone who doesn’t know much about it would say. 2. Dismissing my commentary as an artifact of my psycho-pathology is the worst kind of ad hominem attack possible in a discussion. I’ve lost all respect for you, SJF, as a result of you continuing to take the tack with me. Get this. Fuck you. If you spoke… Read more »
You simply do not have the insights on the negotiations and politics of NK and SK that I have. You are operating at a political headline level, I’m sharing facts from people close to the admin in natsec and diplomatic roles currently or formerly who know what’s actually going on (hint, they aren’t right wing dingbats with Youtube channels…). At this instant, SK and NK are negotiating a reunification that removes U.S. forces from the Korean peninsula. To me, this is incredibly obvious just from reading the headlines. But I’m pretty good at calibration as long as I’m not In… Read more »
“If South Korea wants us to go, why wouldn’t we go?”
We need another KIA Rio?
Here’s a question: If South Korea wants us to go, why wouldn’t we go? We are there at the behest of their government.
SK is looking for a peaceful transition. That has to be managed with U.S. cooperation and shit can fuck this up…tariffs, South China Sea bullshit, etc.
1 time – scrib you aren’t smart or well versed enough to know anything about my pov. Your angry mental health issues prevent that. You want to put Sjf in the emergency room?😂😂
Point made.
Ps, I’d love for you to track me down and out me in the emergency room sometime. Lol. Too old to be an internet though guy. You ‘ know ‘ s lot of useless shit, but that knowledge escapes you when your illness surfaces.
In fact, one of the victories of the Left over the past 30 years is shoving 10s of millions of immigrants from savage, uncivilized cultures (more than 50% illegals, refugees, false asylum seekers etc) into Red states. +1 There is no political unity anywhere in the U.S. regionally. The same could be said during the War of Independence. Patriots were only a third. It’s important to remember that and use strategies that will bring success. E.g., Washington was a master at retreating, as were his generals. Stretching British supply lines and demoralizing them until they could be trapped and defeated… Read more »
“SK is looking for a peaceful transition. That has to be managed with U.S. cooperation and shit can fuck this up…tariffs, South China Sea bullshit, etc.” We will help manage things with or without troops in the ROK. No troops required for that. “To me, this is incredibly obvious just from reading the headlines.” It’s incredibly obvious to me too. Also pointless. Obviously the ROK is going to discuss peaceful transition with the DPRK and equally obviously that requires us to leave. What else would they talk about? Wasn’t long ago the ROK funded a big railroad to use DPRK… Read more »
“SK is looking for a peaceful transition. That has to be managed with U.S. cooperation and shit can fuck this up…tariffs, South China Sea bullshit, etc.”
We’re going to be a part of the negotiations either way. The ROK is actually not even a signatory to the armistice agreement….that agreement was made between China, the US, and the DPRK.
No need for troops in the ROK for that.
Crap…thought my first post didn’t make it so I posted another….guess it showed up there after all.
@kfg “why 6?…” Ultimately happenstance. “… and what are the characteristics of those countries?… how do they form up their teams?… ” Relative cultural cohesion and natural power bases and along those lines. Yankeeland, Dixie, Texas, Nuevo Mexico/California, Northwest, Chicagoland. The Dakotas are a no man’s land, landlocked and without a natural place in the Northwest, Chicagoland or Texas and will be pretty well fucked. don’t discount ‘the dakotas’…lol… they have the ability to feed people… and people in history have fought over productive farm land… bc people generally like to eat on the reg…lol… my best guess would be… Read more »
Eh Lol. Almighty anger, ranting, hatingand blaming results in nothing. Simply calling people ” savages ” and the like doesn’t display intelligence. The more people like this are challenged, the angrier and less rational they become, then their true feelz come bubbling to the surface. It’s always somebody else’s fault. The marxist, the savages, the leftist, the minorities, but when you drill down into the argument, there’s nothing of consequence besides fear and anger and recognition of personal weakness and failure. Like angry incels, they have a constant stream of ‘ reasons and excuses ‘. The bright side is that… Read more »
@Anon – Letting the NK regime stand will be seen as an epic victory for communists around the world, and an act of injustice so large that any person with normal morality should be horrified. The depraved acts of savagery routinely carried out by the NK regime put it in the pantheon of people like Saddam Hussein and Joseph Stalin. Letting such a regime stand is a win for the bad guys and a huge loss for us. How this doesn’t occur to you is kind of stunning to me. China is gaming out how to invade Taiwan right now… Read more »
@Blax – Of course it’s not your incessant bullshitting on topics you are ignorant about that’s the cause here. Notice how many comments I make here aren’t about you that are measured and substantive. i just don’t tolerate cunts. Stop acting like a cunt all the time, and you’ll find my “mental health issues” disappear. Keep being a cunt, and I’ll tear you to shreds rhetorically whenever I like. Your choice, but notice you haven’t ever come close to winning an argument with me about politics, history or economics here. You’ve merely demonstrated how stupid you actually are on those… Read more »
Great shaming tactic.
Yes, if the DPRK regime stays in power with all it’s glory this will be a great victory for Communism. Probably good for the deworming medication industry.
Yep, I”m just a vapid idiot. Tell me some more about your “natsec” friends, please. The ones that spill national security policies to you so you can post it online.
the .gov currently running deficits at whatever level they are at is largely irrelevant at this point…lol…
The size of deficits can affect the speed of the meltdown, so it’s not irrelevant. We know that the deficits will bring a lot of pain at some point.
The current situation was gamed out in LOTR. The rings are socialist ideology which corrupts the opponents of socialism and creates converts and large numbers of troops. Kind of like a ring manufacturing plant. The good news is that the ring is an evolutionary filter which breeds resistance to the rings’ influence, but people have to breed in order for that resistance to take hold. Just have kids and raise them up properly and keep things from going to hell too quickly.
@ Blax “The more people like this are challenged, the angrier and less rational they become, then their true feelz come bubbling to the surface.” It’s one of those things that makes a Stoic shrug. Please, no overanalysis about Stoicism as a philosophy and why I’m inaccurate. “The bright side is that human life is finite.” True this. Knowing that I’m heading for a likewise impact stopped me from stupidly chasing my tail. RP helped too. Since we’re talking about this: I’d never knock a person touring life’s pleasures. We’re supposed to enjoy life. I’d question the wisdom of swapping… Read more »
” . . . the regions he identifies are actually quite divided politically.” That is why, despite being an uninterrupted band of “blue” Yankeeland and Chicagoland cannot form a single country. Yankeeland is white collar blue, Chicagoland blue collar blue with very different histories and cultures.They hate each other. And part of why Yankeeland (I actually usually call it New New England) can create an economic union, but Chicagoland will be a city state with territory. “So how does one imagine these regions come together and form some kind of united political front?” A combination of inertia (states are not… Read more »
The master pedestalizer even pedestalizes female trolls.😂
“ANY threat to that normalcy bias is essentially throwing lit matches at an open can of gas…”
It’s not gas, it’s black powder. And it’s getting damper by the day. When it gets damp enough throwing a match in it will just extinguish the match.
When the Feds run out of money and loyalty they will fade away, much as the Romans from Britain. The Poles aren’t going to invade Czechoslovakia for the Russians these days.
When the Feds run out of money and loyalty they will fade away, much as the Romans from Britain.
We see this a little with ICE and sanctuary cities today. The feds couldn’t do anything. I’m not sure if red areas would be able to do this. The socialists get help with disobedience from dems, but I think that the repubs would punish red disobedience.
The blues are united and the reds are divided.
Interesting commentary, not very clear why people continue to focus on outside threats like China and the DPRK when the clear internal fracture threats are here at home. The U.S has no option but to begin to contract much as the British empire did, any direct confrontation without a clear U.S win(nuclear weapons) would only hasten the decline. I agree very much with the statement below by @having a bad day: “ANY threat to that normalcy bias is essentially throwing lit matches at an open can of gas…lol… good luck!” It’s pretty clear the only thing keeping the whole thing… Read more »
Spot on. The Fed .
Since the U.S.appears unstable and vulnerable due to relentless infighting and division, others are beginning to look to ” the next big thing “, and disconnecting from out pseudo currency as The Reserve currency is the next big thing.
Debt. Debt isn’t right or left or socialist or capitalist. Debt is a death sentence.
Asd
Tell me, what do you actually know about ‘ sanctuary cities ‘?
Hint: I actually live in one.
Above: “Soviet Russia was BIG into state-sponsored gender egalitarianism” “The soviets experimented with GE first, then they weaponized it against the West.” Not sure where you guys get your history. Stalin was actually kinda conservative, culturally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Soviet_man — “[Stalin] began to emphasize the role of mother in a way that differed from more radical notions of the early 1920s.[22] The “withering away” of the family was no longer a goal of economic and political progress. The new party line was that the family, like the state, was to grow stronger with the full realization of socialism. Massive propaganda campaigns linked… Read more »
The hardcore will never, never look at any historical facts that don’t coincide with their immovable ego invested beliefs.
But thanks for trying. It is refreshing.
“https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Soviet_man —”
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In need of editing LOL
“It’s pretty clear the only thing keeping the whole thing together is normalcy bias or inertia . . .”
But the normalcy of San Francisco is not the normalcy of Fort Smith. Calling out FS to restore normalcy in SF requires that FS values the normalcy of DC more than it does its own.
Suppose they gave a civil war and no one came.
“Choi Chatterjee, is Assistant Professor of History at California State University, Los Angeles. She is currently completing a book-length manuscript, ” Celebrating Women: The International Women’s Day in Russia and the Soviet Union, 1910-1939″.
This is the author of the book review,LOL.
“[Stalin] began to emphasize the role of mother in a way that differed from more radical notions of the early 1920s.”
i.e. The Soviets experimented with GE first.
@kfg “ANY threat to that normalcy bias is essentially throwing lit matches at an open can of gas…” It’s not gas, it’s black powder. And it’s getting damper by the day. When it gets damp enough throwing a match in it will just extinguish the match. i would agree with this, except for the concept of economic ‘enoughness’… (and disregarding for the analysis, the idea of cultural cohesion, bc even if that ‘relative’ cohesion will prevail in the end, i don’t think there is enough overt cohesion to be able to form up teams ‘on the fly’ so to speak…… Read more »
Debt. Debt isn’t right or left or socialist or capitalist. Debt is a death sentence.
As long as you get a stay of execution from the FR, doesn’t matter.
Tell me, what do you actually know about ‘ sanctuary cities ‘?
Hint: I actually live in one.
How do you know?
And do the elites pay off local officials to get sanctuary city policies enacted?
And what do you mean by “sanctuary cities?”
bc i don’t think that the ‘locals’ in the current system would see themselves as ‘better off’ if the fed .gov stopped doing ‘roman’
taxes and food…War of Northern Aggression…Sherman’s March…flour riots in NY 1837
1837….
Asd
I know because it’s designated as ” sanctuary city “. I’m not into guessing about stuff.
And ” elites ” have nothing to do with my cities designation. Your looking at stuff from the outside and making bad, uninformed guesses.
If anybody thinks the U.S. Dollar will be the world’s reserve currency forever, they need to see this chart. It’s not if but when.
The civil war and end of the west IMO, is similar to the battle of OMG vs PUA. It has already begun the fall of the west is the fall of everything it represents and everything that pays the bills. “Solzhenitsyn described Stalin’s arrest of children. The children were mixed with the elderly in special gulags, and the entire group was given only enough food for the children to survive. Of course, the point was not to kill the children. It was to have them brutalize the elderly, have them watch the elderly starve to death, and turn the children… Read more »
In my city sanctuary is defined like this:
If you are living in the city and not involved in breaking laws or participating actively in criminal activities, the LOCAL police won’t harass you based upon apparent ethnicity. If you are law abiding and working and paying taxes and contributing to your community, and you run into police for whatever reason, they won’t ask you your status.
The feds still will. The state police still will.
Most illegals don’t live in sanctuary cities in this state though.
@theasdgamer
taxes and food…War of Northern Aggression…Sherman’s March…flour riots in NY 1837
like i said… people get crabby…lol
https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_food_riots
good luck!
Lol, there have been food riots through the 2,000’s.
Hence my dog at the 1837 shi t.
Can’t see ahead, too busy looking backwards.
kfg
The Poles aren’t going to invade Czechoslovakia for the Russians these days.
Countries that don’t exist generally don’t get invaded.
Lol, there have been food riots through the 2,000’s.
Hence my dog at the 1837 shi t.
Can’t see ahead, too busy looking backwards.
This is why you lot keep going in circles…don’t know where you’ve been.
@HABD
Like I’ve said before, I think that the U.S. will follow the pattern of the Byzantine Empire…some disloyalists will make it easy for a foreign power to land…maybe in Cal…when you have a bunch of people living at one address and they aren’t getting along, it’s easy enough for one of them to call 911.
The socialists have control of the narrative and policies and I don’t see them going away any time soon. Their policies will inevitably lead to higher taxes. People may try to escape high taxes, but the socialists will build an Antifascist Wall to keep them in. So, just lots of boredom and misery and attempts to escape govt. taxation. Immigration will slow because of a lack of opportunity. Then the consumer-driven economy will collapse because of the lack of in-country replacement births.
“… ie were people looking at starving if the romans ‘stopped’ doing ‘roman’?…” No. The Romans were looking at starving if the Britons stopped doing Briton. The Britons were the agricultural class. When the pay chests stopped coming from Rome, the Romans couldn’t buy food and left for the continent where they could hook up with pay again. The Romans were dependent on Roman coin. “Government checks.” And so the Britons regained their independence from the Empire without firing a shot. Of course you only have to look at any History of Britain book to see that the British organizing… Read more »