Good Humans

As was expected this week, there’s been an extensive and eager effort on the part our feminine-primary social order to once again further shifting the narrative of “toxic” masculinity to ‘masculinity is toxic. I addressed this in Male Control. Directly after the Las Vegas mass shooting we began to see articles from the femosphere decrying the evils of masculinity as being the cause of the violence.

It is no longer enough to foster the falsehood of varieties of masculinity as being “toxic” or “hyper”– now, any masculinity is a disease to society. The Feminine Imperative is all too ready to conflate any semblance of conventional masculinity with mass murder, rape, violence, harassment and any other social malaise that might viably be wiped off on men ‘being’ men. And in the wake of every new tragic act of violence this narrative shift will be more adamantly promoted by misandrist authors.

I covered a lot of this in Positive Masculinity and the Red Pill Parent series of essays, but even when I wrote these the cultural narrative was still promoting a distinction between what was acceptable masculinity and what was ‘toxic’ masculinity. This is what the Village has been instilling in our boys for some time now. Before the loss of Hillary Clinton and the Future is Female militancy took root there was some concession as to what might be considered an acceptable form of masculinity.

Naturally that ‘good’ masculinity was always defined as something uniquely benefitting the feminine. Before this cultural shift the Feminine Imperative still recognized the need it had for a masculinity that could be exploited for its purposes. There was still a need for men to Man Up and Shut Up. To be sure, boys were (and are) still taught by the Village as if they were defective girls. Boys had to be conditioned to hate their own gender in order to grow up into compliant and feminine-identifying men, but there was still a utility in masculinity that the Village recognized. Thus, there was a need to foster some kind of hopeful appreciation in men ‘being of service’ to women’s needs. There still needed to be a carrot for the mule to follow if men were to accept the old books social contract and that was the hope that their usefulness might ever be appreciated and rewarded.

The ‘Broken Boys’

Selling men on the old social contract while playing by the new set of rules worked for the Feminine Imperative throughout the late 80s, 90s and the early 2000s. However, what this narrative shift represents is a turning point in women acknowledging men as no longer (as) useful to their imperative. By 2012 it was the beginning of the End of Men, and there was little doubt, even back then, that we’d have the First Female President in office right after Obama’s exit. In the wake of that obsolescence the idea that masculinity was in any way beneficial to the Feminine Imperative, and maintaining the facade that masculinity in men might have some redeeming aspects, is no longer necessary. The feminine meta-frame has no reason to prompt men into believing their gender has anything ‘good’ to contribute to society. And thus we see the shift from qualified forms of ‘bad’ masculinity – toxic, hyper, Patriarchy, “culture of ____” – to the intended, non-qualified form of all masculinity being bad.

For the moment gyonocentrism must content itself to capitalize on human tragedies to emphasize its new masculinity = bad narrative. The Las Vegas shooting was the first paradigm shift in this respect. Once the obligatory, and now entirely boring, gun control sermons are published as a reason for the carnage, then the demonization of masculinity can be served up.

However, in the case of the most recent Nikolas Cruz shooting the Feminine Imperative gets a double bonus. The message is not only are men and masculinity the reason for all violence ever, but our boys are being taught to be these violent psychopaths because some outdated (and entirely mythical now) macho masculinity is making them so. Our boys, they say, are “broken”.

“Comedian” Michael Ian Black had a rash of post-shooting tweets that sum this narrative up:

Black is a perfect example of a Blue Pill conditioned ‘ally’ of the Feminine Imperative, but his sentiments here sum up exactly the tact that the femosphere has been using for a while now. There will always be a utility in appealing to the old male social contract as a horrible, chauvinistic, misogynistic, insensitive facade of what masculinity should be. It serves the imperative well if the Village can convince the larger populace that boys are still being taught by horrible masculine men and a society that hasn’t existed for 50 years which bully them into being potential Nikolas Cruzs.

They say boys are broken because it’s the only easy explanation that vaguely sounds right in the face of the Village systematically feminizing boys for the past four generation. Boys are “broken” because of an “outdated masculinity” that was replaced with a feminine-primary educational system decades ago. They’ll blame men for perpetuating that lie, and in the next breath blame men for not being “men” enough to engage with these young men so as to deter them from tragedies like this. The Village has been so effective in blurring conventional masculinity that its adherents themselves have no idea what masculinity entails.

When the 2018 Women’s March took place I, and a lot of other men in the sphere, noticed a common theme in the protest placards that mothers were creating for their sons. The message for girls was the standard “girls can do anything” pablum, but for boys the message was all the same:


The message of today’s Village is that Boys are never to be boys, never to be male, never to be masculine in any positive aspect,…boys are born as not ‘good humans’. At least, boys are not good human beings until they acquiesce to the Village that is teaching them and to the authority of The Future is Female paradigm. In order to create the genderless, masculine-less, gelded men of the future they must get to boys earlier and earlier in their development.

In the interests of full disclosure I’ve had a handful of women defending this ubiquitous messaging tell me that it’s meant to teach boys not to blame their “shitty behavior on just their being male” – boys will be boys – but what even its defenders don’t recognize is the deeper message that boys of this age register; and particularly in an acculturation process that considers them defective girls.

But this is where we’re at in the intersexual environment today. To the imperative men are no longer men today, they are “allies”. This is the next logical step in Removing the Man from our social context. Boys are no longer ‘boys’, and they can only ever be ‘good humans’ so long as they continue their Blue Pill conditioning to become ‘allies’ later.


The following is a reblog of Josh Ishiro Finney’s A Letter to Boys & Young Men of America. Josh had this post and his blog attacked in the wake of the school shooting in Florida this week and I felt it was impactful enough to warrant a reblog here. Having written many a post on the war on conventional masculinity – and really the better part of my book Positive Masculinity – I wanted to extend my support for his commentary.

A response to mass shooting in Florida.

The bodies aren’t even cold yet and already you are being blamed.

Yes you.

All of you.

The boys and young men who will grow up to become one half of America’s future.
Once again, due to society’s failure to raise you, to teach you, to properly guide you on your path to manhood, your mere existence is being held responsible for seventeen more deaths—this time in Florida, and once again, at a school. The headlines of the last few days say it all:

  “Guns don’t kill people; men and boys kill people, experts say”

  “Michael Ian Black reacts to Florida shooting: Boys are broken”
  -New York Daily News

  “How Gun Violence And Toxic Masculinity Are Linked, In 8 Tweets”
  -The Huffington Post

  “Toxic white masculinity: The killer that haunts American life”

  “Toxic Masculinity Is Killing Us”
  -The Boston Globe

  “Toxic Masculinity Is Killing Us”
  -Harpers Bazaar

  “Don’t Blame Mental Illness for Mass Shootings; Blame Men”

In the handful of decades I’ve been alive, I’ve seen America shift from a culture of responsibility to one of blame. We don’t solve problems anymore. We cry, we pray for, we seek to find closure, and then finally, slaughter a sacrificial lamb for our sins. When I was young and Columbine happened, that lamb was Marilyn Manson and video games. Before that, it was D&D and Twisted Sister. These days, though, as body counts continue to rise and excuses continue to vanish, the lamb America has chosen to sacrifice is you. Rather than take responsibility for the seeds we’ve sown, the culture we built, and the disaster you’ve been left to inherit, we as a nation have chosen to lie to ourselves. To listen and believe those who claim that the answer is simple: “Boys are simply born bad.”

As an aging Gen Xer watching this tragedy unfold, I can’t help but look back at my youth and realize we were the dry run for this “crisis of masculinity” as the media likes to call it.

In my time I’ve watched as fathers were pushed out of the home, separated from their children, and their role in society debased and devalued. Like you, I was taught male behavior was bad behavior. That I was broken and needed to be fixed. Drugs, therapy, mass socialization were required to save me from my most innate instincts—

—the need compete.

—the drive to create.

—the urge to protect.

—the desire for female affection.

Like you, I was told these instincts were not only wrong, but dangerous. That due to my Original Sin of being born a boy, I was destined to mature into a lustful monster and an oppressor of women. All this was burned into me before I even reached college, where campus policy actually assumed all men to be rapists waiting to happen.

It isn’t hard to see how we got here, to an age when America is more than willing to sacrifice its boys. To quote Fight Club, “We’re a generation of men raised by women.” And the women who raised my generation had a saying: All men are pigs. But there’s another saying those same women were enamored with and that is: The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.

So here we are, coming close to fifty years of single mothers raising their boys as if they were animals. Two generations of young men raised to believe they’re broken, immoral, and dangerous. That their natural state, if left unchecked and unmedicated, is a sexual ticking time bomb of rape and abuse. Half a century of academia peddling a grim version of history that holds your gender personally responsible for all the wrongs ever to have happened in the world. And a press, that at this very moment, is blaming YOU for every school shooting to have ever occurred.

After all this, how could there not be a crisis of masculinity?

So to the boys and young men of America, believe me when I say it isn’t you who should be apologizing for the state of our world today. This mess was set in motion long before you were born.

You are not bad.

You are not broken.

You are not inherently evil or a sexual abuser in waiting.

You are boys who were robbed of your right to be men.

All your life you’ve been told to act, think, and behave like women. To suppress your passions, your pride, your need to compete and drive to achieve.

Now society is crumbling around us.

Feminizing boys didn’t make better men. It’s resulted in broken homes and shattered families and record suicide rates. It’s destroying any notion of a healthy partnership between men and women, and is pushing us ever closer to total collapse of gender relations.

Boys, we don’t need you to be like women, the world has plenty of women, already.

What the world needs now more than ever is for you to be men.

For you to grow-up, to grow strong, and do what men do.

For it is men’s strength and determination that tamed the wilderness, built civilization, and has kept the world fed despite all predictions we’d all die starving before the year 2000. It’s men’s curiosity that lead us to explore the oceans, to conquer space, and peer into the tiniest of microcosms of the human body. It was men who built the cities we inhabit, the luxuries we enjoy, the medicines that keep us alive. Men built the road, the plumbing, the electrical grid, the phone in your hand, the internet it’s connected to.

Men have always been innovators, explores, defenders, and leaders.

But most importantly, men have always been fathers.

So to the boys and young men of America, please read this and take every word to heart.

The world needs you.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

446 comments on “Good Humans

  1. @ AD

    Yes, I too have noted throughout the manosphere the amazing circumstances that now grip our society. That white men are now finding themselves viciously attacked by the monster they set loose to cripple and destroy other men is a truly remarkable irony.

    But I would not say that the white men of today “deserve” what is happening to them anymore than my black ancestors “deserved” what was done to them. It’s wrong to hold people accountable for actions of others. And now isn’t really the time to engage in schadenfreude—we really are all in this together as men. Time to start acting like it.


    Of Course they’re going to blame us for everything. They have no choice.

    Brothers: we must stop expecting women to reason or be consistent. They simply evolutionarily biologically cannot. These are, truly, children. They cannot help how they are.

    Providing reason and guidance is our lot.

    We must, where ever we are, stand firmly, unapologetically, and hold the line.

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  3. I’ve noticed also recently is not just an attack on men in general anymore, but now increasingly a specific focus on “white men”. Divide and conquer?

  4. There is no concept of fairness in power plays. Men need to get that in their head first. Then the bullshit in the media becomes amply clear and then irrelevant.

  5. “I’ve noticed also recently is not just an attack on men in general anymore, but now increasingly a specific focus on “white men”. Divide and conquer?” (ETile)

    There is no reason to it.

    Our greatest asset – and greatest liability – is the capacity to reason.
    Asset because it is a powerful tool.
    Liability because we try and make sense of women – expecting them to have the capacity for reason and logical consistency. They simply do not.

    And it ties us in knots trying to reason it out.
    We assume they are reasonable; and so reason that somehow, it all going wrong must be a failing on our part.

    It isn’t.

  6. Far be it from any all men to read Rollo’s Twitter feed and digest this lengthy and good speech. I’d put this in the category as prototypical red pill, many of the ideas have been more than fleshed out in the manosphere, esp. by Rollo in the last ten years in the manosphere:

  7. Yes. We don’t have solutions anymore we just cry or post how hard life is on social media.

    When I was in my teens and too hung over to get up for church my father would yank me out of bed. “Your head hurts? You ass will hurt!”

    I resented it at the time. But on some level it did toughen me up. He hated whinging. He mocked any sort of heartbreak.

    Imagine that approach now?

    Now it’s all about the feelz.

    I have very few friends who are guys. Nearly all the guys I know at work or socially are Blue Pill betas with helium voices.

  8. @Walawala

    You’ve said that many times over.

    Even though I live in Unicorndialand, where the guys are alpha male all the time, the inverse of the pareto distribution, the males in my neighborhood and country club are 80%, the 20% top performers. Really and don’t try this at home, because it doesn’t work. I still find time to only associate with Red Pill landia guys. They are out there. They are real. And they are spectacular.

    I swear I have patented a style of going about getting a tribe of non douches. Shrugging off the unhappy and the unlucky and latching one to bona fide tribal associations that will kick ass.

    It’s the bomb. How can you do that? What questions do you have in how that is not do-able?

    Go out and get red pill tribal guys to hang out with. Even though they may be few and far between ?5% they are there.

    The best most efficient method I have found is to emulate online dating. No homo. hook up with guys online and meet offline. Meetup. Sportman’s forums. Manosphere forums. Something in line with interests seeking towards a goal and then gunning towards that goal.

    Move towards joining up with guys that share the same interest. Form a tribe and define goals and define limits on the group. Reap the rewards of that.

    It’s not a Mystery. Just look at some of the manosphere greats: Rollo, Goldmund Unleashed, and that guy I can’t remember (the cad club guy).

  9. Rollo Tomassi
    February 19, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    If you go down into the comments of the ZeroHedge link you will get more on the anti-depressant angle.

    Evidently there is a move in Congress to restrict semi-automatic weapons. i.e. just about all of them. No mention of anti-depressant drugs anywhere except in a few places on the ‘net.

  10. rugby11
    February 19, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    Fr. Boyle, “We have forgotten that we belong to each other.”

    I’d rather not be owned. Thank you very much.

    BTW we had quite a gang problem in the 1920s and we know what caused it.

    And note: the single mother problem is in part due to mass incarceration.

    Guess what causes mass incarceration? The same thing responsible for financing gangs.

    This stuff is so hard to figure out. It is like we have never come up against these problems before.

  11. Rollo Tomassi
    February 19, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    “This is what happens when a boy is raised in this paradigm and there’s no Red Pill father/mentor to direct him.”

    Thanks Rollo for pointing this out.

    Nobody, I mean absolutely nobody in the mainstream media will dare to acknowledge this.

    But why just blame the mainstream media, try telling this to your wife, girlfriend, mother or sister and watch their response. The average women today, tradcon or not, will refute the claim that a father is needed to raise children. And the main reason for this is too much prosperity. The stores are filled with food, ATM machines are stuffed with unlimited cash, Government is the biggest Alpha male on the block (on very block) who will pander to their needs and attend to their false allegations, and celebrity feminists are slaying it without any man. So why would an average women feel that she needs a man to raise a child?

  12. Listening to NPR–The tactic being pushed by the author of an article in The New Yorker to bring down Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas is to get him on perjury. He allegedly grabbed multiple woman’s asses and she believes that it could be proven that he lied under oath because multiple women say that he did.

  13. Etile

    You trolling or just naive ?

    “I’ve noticed also recently is not just an attack on men in general anymore, but now increasingly a specific focus on “white men”. ”

    As a group white men (single and married) and married white women defeated Hillary.

    This is the last roadblock.

    Meanwhile Black Panther screenings are used for voter registration drives.

    It’s all about the conquer.

  14. M Simon

    Actually none of what’s happening is hard to figure out at all. What’s puzzling everyone is the ” target “. The methods are the same as they have been for close to 300 years, but the target has shifted.

    The Lynch letter concerning how to control your slaves is specific regarding the targeting of the children. Fathers have to be minimized, and mothers will carry out a Master’s wishes/instruction in a misguided attempt to teach her children how to remain ” safe “. It becomes perpetual.

    The reasons for gangs is also not complicated. Isolation from larger culture. Plain and simple. Where I live there’s a long and documented history – Irish gangs, Italian gangs, Jewish gangs, Latino gangs, Black gangs. When larger society tries to single you out as inherently bad, just by birth/genetics, history has shown us what the results are Wrt males. All males. No difference.

    It just takes the right circumstances.

    Now the FI is ramping up the rhetoric and attacks on white males as ” the problem “, and they are using the established Lynch prescription of targeting the male children. This will result always in anger, violence and eventually just dropping out of society and rebellion against established norms. Seen it up close and personal all of my life.

    What is harder though, is getting young men and boys to understand that there are ” forces ” actively working against them. It sounds a little too conspiratorial.

    I’ve worked with a gang outreach group for over 15 years, and it’s been a hell of an eye opening experience. What I have learned unquestionably, is that single motherhood and isolation from wider society fuels all gang activity in large swaths. Even when fathers are ” present “, if they don’t have the tools to teach these kids how to recognise what’s actually happening to them, well…they aren’t going to be very helpful. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    Think blue pill dad vs red pill dad.

    I know how to help young men of any background. The problem is having enough men of like mind to assist. It takes an army of men with knowledge and perseverance to counter society’s messages and cues. That will be the real test, as most men have been conditioned in such a way as to go along to get along, and follow prescribed plans and ” traditional ” ways, not being able to recognise when the traditions are being changed and corrupted.

  15. Divide and conquer is American males recipe for disaster, as it is designed. Other men, as a whole, ” the other ” is obfuscation on the highest order and a useless knee jerk reaction that successfully turns men against men.

    According to plan.

    But we can try it out. Lol. Divide up into little groups and target other men.

    More fuckery will ensue.

    But the end result will be chaos that’s totally avoidable and unnecessary. Misguided anger won’t stop guided targeting.

    I’ve never, ever been defeated by an angry opponent in the ring. I loved when they got in the ring angry and mad, because it dulled their ability to rationally think.

  16. …. Btw, anyone know what’s happening to ” traditional ” marriage/family?




  17. Lol nah. It’s an inconsequential fairy tale, but it has lessons.

    My great grandfather took my to see dilapidated ” slave quarters ” when i was very young, but for all I know they were fake. Like a Disney theme park ride.


    A geisha boy?

    From the article, right off the bat, the insidious propagandist intent to poison nature is blatantly self-evident….

    “Johnny Weir and Tara Lipinski are changing the face — or rather, the voice — of figure skating commentary.”

    ….and the entire culture…extending globally…no doubt. It’s what the puppet masters want.

    There is a very specific reason we are seeing this. Also from the article…

    “After a successful run in Sochi as commentators for NBC Sports Network, the pair were bumped up to primetime in Pyeongchang, serving as the lead commentators for NBC’s men’s singles, ladies’ singles and pairs skating”

    Make no mistake about understanding this. The puppet masters carefully vet and filter who gets to perform their hetrophobic misandrist sales pitch and who does not. And their intent is to impose geisha boy sexuality upon ALL human sexuality as they appoint Johnny Weird to preside over what you are “supposed” to think about “men’s singles”, “ladies singles” and “pairs”.

    THIS puppet… Geisha Boy, Johnny Weir or, most correctly, JOHNNY WEIRD did not end up in center stage in the global circus by accident. IT was placed there intentionally along with everything IT is wearing. IT’S script was premeditated, and ITS body language was proactively rechoreographed. IT’S actions and the reinforcement of IT’S agenda is very well supported not necessarily by conspiracy but certainly by collusion.

    Real boys, unlike Johnny Weird, other geisha boys and all liars of this ilk….Pinocchios,… real boys are not “broken” they are thoroughly pissed off and for a damn good reason!

    “No place for hate” is a dare as the puppet masters dare you to express hatred against what they already know you hate. IT is a chip they place on the shoulder of heterophobia to bully you. This insanity is driving some men “mad” enough to take up arms.

  19. @ Rollo, nice post !

    This is a complicated situation with the boys, I am the dad of a young boy and yeah they are being 100% indoctrinated with an agenda as far as school goes, any school: charter/public/private/religious. He attends a public school which is 90% female in terms of staff, and honestly most of the staff I can see have their heart in the right place and believe they are doing the right thing.

    However, the key word is believe, unfortunately, misguided at best. When I contrast how I grew up to that of my son, it’s a world of difference in just 20 years. Growing up in rural America in the 90s, I was out pretty much every weekend with my father out in the fields he irrigated/worked on , worked around/fed horses/animals , watched my dad tame the water in the ditches with his shovel/pipes/tarps to water Alfafa fields in the day and night, hard work, never remember him complaining. We would spend a lot of time together, much of it in silence, even then my dad could see I was not the same as him and that school had somehow had a taming impact on me, he didn’t actively fight it though, he simply showed there was another way. I have never forgot the lesson learned: Hard work is always necessary in any endeavor, and there is no use trying to avoid it. It’s his biggest gift to me ever, to see him accept the hard work without complaint, he was showing not telling.

    I contrast this to my son and my life now, no longer living in rural America but rather in the metros/suburbs. I spend a lot of time with my son exercising, there are no fields to irrigate and I can’t take him to an office, but I do spend a lot of time with him practicing sports. It takes time and dedication but it’s important. I don’t see many dad’s spending time with their kids helping them learn to catch or such, we take one of my sons friends in the neighborhood to practice sometimes, he enjoys it. My boy hiked 21 miles over a two week period with me, 3-4 mile hikes every other day or so to get to the 21. All of this takes time, sometimes a lot of time, other things/activities are sacrificed but it’s necessary. Raising a boy today is not easy you are indirectly fighting all the messages they are getting from the culture/society but it’s completely necessary, they get it, they are watching, they understand if you show them.

  20. Fromt the post:

    “In the handful of decades I’ve been alive, I’ve seen America shift from a culture of responsibility to one of blame. We don’t solve problems anymore. We cry, we pray for, we seek to find closure, and then finally, slaughter a sacrificial lamb for our sins. ”

    This is key, to assign real responsibility would require a real examination of the actors and their actions in the situation and that’s just not going to happen because it would require truth.

  21. @NBTM:

    From the article – “In the past, commentary has been mostly forgettable, a basic summary of what’s going on the ice peppered with compliments. Lipinski and Weir take a different approach. They’re blunt and don’t mince words. If something goes poorly — and of course, it often does — they will tell it like it is.”

    That means they are just being “basic bitches”.

    “That’s the worst short program I’ve ever seen from Nathan Chen,” Weir remarked after Team USA superstar skater Chen fell in his short program during the team competition. “Disastrous.” His remarks about the rest of the men in the short program (who, by all accounts, had a rough night, with several falls in the mix) were equally honest: “This men’s final group was an all-star list, but nobody skated up to their names.”

    So a Geisha Boy will now ridicule men who have spent years perfecting their craft, for having a bad night. Wow, just wow!!

    It’s wardrobe, It’s script, It’s body language, It’s actions and It’s agenda were scientifically tested …. and created in a lab.

    “It goes without saying that Weir and Lipinski, who recently told GQ they cemented their friendship after a weeklong stint for Universal Sports in 2010 that ended in foot rubs, are different from other figure skating commentators.”

    Foot rubs? Really? …. BARF

    Its the fucking women who encourage this kind of degeneracy. Women like being around these emasculated men because they can “feel manly” for once.

  22. NBTM,

    I don’t have TV or cable or anything so I’ve missed most of the Oly’s, but I did, unfortunately, catch some skating and saw that thing and actually LOL’d to the point where I drew some suspicious glares from a couple of girls at the bar once they realized what got me going.

    The rest of what I’ve seen of the Olys has been almost entirely go-girl propaganda. The silver lining being that those cunty USA skiers who are incessantly featured in the little promo packages celebrating their fempower are coming up short in the end.

    So I’m all about some pretty girl from Slovakia or Czech taking home the hardware. The media et. al. have sucked the fun out of everything – including rooting for my own Nation.

    Like Finney, I’m an X’er who experienced the beta-testing of all this too. As an athlete, it was Title IX and the equality/diversity obsession that infected everything. It was evident even back then that the “future” was in pimping women’s sports at the expense of men.

    When they weren’t propping up mediocre (at best) women’s programs they were hunting the Sasquatch of the gay-black-latino (anything but whitemale) athlete who obviously had to overcome all the hate which was naturally a part of the toxic masculinity of male competition.

    Diversity. Women winning a bunch of medals. In-your-face genderbender puffer gaying-up the already gay skating. Those birds at the bar know this stuff is ridiculous but it is all part of their religion and they all all-in (even if they can’t seem to connect the anti-masculinity etc. to their own selfish desire to be attached to a masculine man.)

    I’ve taken to just treating it all as a massive shit-test. Unapologetic masculinity. Unsolicited opinion. Dismissive to the white noise of their constant propaganda. ZFG truthspeak. Granted, I don’t have to deal with HR, but more men need to push back at least a little. Some women are hoping for this, though admittedly they are tough to prod out of the tall grass.

    Part of the challenge is that there are so many sacred cows at this point that self-censorship is neutering any kind of real conversation before it can even start.

    I’ve been wondering if the acceleration of their efforts is due to the fact that the finish line is getting close or if it is due to the growing fear that the various narratives are cracking under their own weight.

    A lot of RP men are pointing at Gen Z too, thinking they will cast off the chains. While I have seen some of this in action, there is a lot more working against these young boys than my generation had and most of my Xer friends are of the elite variety, the “good schools” and invisible fence$ approach.

  23. @FoxGuy,

    “He attends a public school which is 90% female in terms of staff, and honestly most of the staff I can see have their heart in the right place and believe they are doing the right thing.”

    True, but even worse for those boys without fathers. I have a 5y/o nephew who has literally NO men in his life. Single mom. Single grandmother. His mom’s friends are: lesbian couple and other single mom. School is 90% female like most. His “therapist” is female. His special Ed teachers/handlers are female. Why special Ed? See: single mom and no men in his life.

    The good intentions are there but the system stunts them because the system answers to the higher call of the ideology. My nephew needs a stable environment, discipline, structure, free-play, healthy diet, and a DAD. Instead he gets farmed-out to half-a-dozen female handlers, drive-thru dinners, and RITALIN.

    Its criminal child abuse at the systemic level. Masculinity is pathologized before these boys even know what they Y chromosome is up to.

    Anyhow, you are spot on Re: hard work and being outside. The urban enviro and suburban lock-down these kids grow up in these days is especially hard on boys. Being outside and free play is essential. As are hard work and the early-formed understanding of how building-creating lends to competency, confidence, self-reliance, resiliency, and responsibility.

    Simply being outside is increasingly being associated with all kinds of health metrics relating to the endocrine system, cognitive and memory, mood, stress, anxiety, depression, etc. Meanwhile, the single mom solution is: where’s your ipad? I’d reckon that a great deal of the depression in boys is the one-two punch of being inside too much and lack of father in the home. Yeah, one of these geniuses counseling my nephew diagnosed him with depression. at 5y/o. WTF.

    “Free Range Kids” and “Last Child in the Woods” are decent books on the matter but there is a lot of cultural work to do against the headwind of the sedentary, urban, feedlot lifestyle.

    I do volunteer work every summer taking city kids (of course “disadvantaged”) up into the mountains for very brief camping excursions. I can see how the sky/space/trees affects them. Granted, they are soft little bitches and complain constantly about the roughness of it all. But by the time we are back home they all are begging to go back the next year.

  24. There are no excuses. Please stop trying to find alternative answers.

    50 years ago, there weren’t mass shootings or school shootings taking place with regularity. I have to say that this is what I find frustrating about American society. Still trying to excuse shitty, homicidal behavior by finding that ” something ” that could be ” the cause ” outside of the culture itself. American culture is the cause. Why aren’t mass shootings happening anywhere else with regularity?

    I think this is the 12th mass shooting incident this year. Is everyone on anti depressants?

    This is a uniquely American phenomenon, that doesn’t even exist in shit hole nations…. There’s a cultural component, or a violent rejection of it. Something is driving some men mad, and has been for a while now.

    So buckle up and wait for the next mass shooting that’s surely coming, just as ” sunrise ” does.

    No solution is forth coming because the problem is being misidentified consistently.

    Or, we can build more prisons, strengthen laws and cross our collective fingers.

    Hmmmmm…. I wonder where ” Men ” might figure into a viable solution?

    Nah. Can’t be.

  25. Popping up from the Last House On The Left to add these:

    1) “Blaming All Men” is the same false flag for the lefties as the SoCon rightie-tighties saying all these shootings are because of “the rap industry” (wha?), “those nasty videogames” (such as? Dungeons and Dragoons?) and that “violent heavy metal music” (from people like, uh, uh, Marilyn Manson or NIN or Twisted Sister – now senior citizen cunts all?).

    2) The PC refinement to blaming “white men” instead of “all men” is a SJW course correct – someone over there figured out that in a real sense they’d set up a trope of helpless white women sticking it to those nasty savage-type black men by forcing them into their #YesAllMen toxic masculinity parade. A bit raciss, yes, ladies?

    3) This whole megatrend of shooting up schools and concerts for the fuck of it is an American thing, not a gun thing. Canadians have as many guns per capita as we do, they don’t do this shit. Neither do Mexicans, Russians, Spaniards, Irish, etc.* That said, M Simon, Razorwire and FoxGuy are on to something here – yes we should be rethinking the bad-parenting shitshow, the don’t-need-no-dad pageant, and all the boy-doping which we keep doing more and more and we keep wondering why it’s not working so let’s keep doing it until it does work which of course it will someday, see the Sunk Cost Fallacy.

    4) Can’t co-sign enough on Free Range Kids and Last Child In the Woods – two very happy discoveries I luckily made years ago which I heartily recommend to the RP parent.

    *I’m not forgetting the terrorists, here and overseas, some WN like Anders Brevyik or ISIS killers, or the old-school IRA, and they do/did lots of shooting – and bombing – and other damage not requiring an AR-15, but they claimed to be doing it for some kind of cause. In the case of ISIS jihadis, they were Omegas who got sold it as their ticket to poosy paradise (literally) since the Sheiks were scarfing up all the wimmins, 4 apiece, so they couldn’t have any in this life.

  26. I see Blax and I have been reading each others’ mail again. Stop copying me while I’m copying you!

  27. .. Damn fred. I was listening to MM ” Killing Strangers ” in the shower, and came back to read your comment.

    I feel so dirty now I might need a 2nd shower.

  28. The link within the Zerohedge link

    pointing to a “missing link”

    When you ingest your next full helping of ABCCBSNBCCNNFOX News, observe the number of commercials for Viagra, SeeAlice, Lipizzaner, FaithandBegorium and a medicine chest full of other strangely named pills and liquids with Warning Disclaimers speed-read by the off-stage announcer. Do you think Pfizer (Prozac, Zoloft, Xanax), Paxil, Wellbutrin (GlaxoSmithKline), Ritalin (Novartis), Lexapro (Forest), Luvox (Abbott Labs) , Ambien (Sanofi) would appreciate having their advertising dollars spent on reporting they may be the manufactures of certain medications occasionally having serious anti-social side-effects on young patients? Similarly, would health care providers and their doctors want similar exposure?

    Consider the following history:

    Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

    Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
    Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
    Chris Fetters, age 13, while taking Prozac, killed his favorite aunt.
    Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
    Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
    Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
    Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
    Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded.
    Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
    TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.
    James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
    Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
    Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
    Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
    Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who, for no apparent motive, killed a woman.
    Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledgehammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
    Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially, it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
    Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
    Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
    Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a ladder at the family’s home in July 2002.
    Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
    Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)
    Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s garage.
    Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt in his closet.
    Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
    Woody __, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death, his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of
    Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
    Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazepine.
    Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax, and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
    Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
    Asa Coon, Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
    Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.
    Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds:

    Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az?
    James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado?
    Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or?
    Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct?

  29. If you look on the Drudge Report the killer Cruz is in court and cnn is recording it. All the prosecution and defense lawyers and the judge are all females.

  30. @M Simon
    “The parents have to give permission.”

    I’ve known a few couples along the way who have similarly refused.

    Part of the issue here is parents, not parent. Most parents defer to the school system, but single moms are the least likely to put up a fuss. They are already burned out by the problems their kid presents at school. The teachers are the same. Most I know can pick out the kids of single parents straight away.

    Everyone is solving for the path of least resistance all around. There is a funnel approach where steering toward meds from the beginning is the norm because there is so little that can (will) be done to remedy the actual problems, which begin and end at home with the parent(s) and are exasperated by the femcentric dynamics of the education industrial complex (cue conspiracies).

    Too many parents these days can’t be bothered to parent. Single mom? Forget it. For every hero mom, there are 100 walmart scooter driving type2 miserable government tit-sucking professional victims who see their kids as an inconvenience that is only worth their weight in government cheese and Facebook likes.

    The single mom issue is a cancer, OOW births, all that fun stuff. But our culture has decided that the “Traditional” nuclear family is racist and sexist and homophobic and oppressive in ways that we haven’t even invented yet. So the national conversation is just rudderless droning about guns and games and badwhites going feral.

    IME, there seems to be a difference between the high energy, attention/focus issues of those few kids who just need a bit of tailored handling and the much more deep-rooted and complex issues of many other kids who have been raised in “non-traditional” homes with the majority of their parenting coming from various transient third-parties, TV/Screens, and intermittent intervention from good-hearted gov’t women who nevertheless are troubled with faulty premises and other HR-like constraints on piercing the sacred narratives. It’s a SYSTEM after all. You fit or get spit.

    Most boys should have issues with the way their lives and their schools are run. Its actually a testament of human resiliency that boys actually get through this shit and go on to take their place among the commute to cubefarm tax cattle.

    As for pills. The school district is a State power. The coercive power of the State no joke. They can make it really difficult for the parent of a problem kid. Most people are only going to resist to a point.

    Somewhere along the program of: punish-isolate, then indiv. education plan, then full time special ed handler, then removal to special classroom, then bus to special school, then….most parents give in. The school handlers push the pills at every turn. What are you, a bad parent – denying your child the proper care (as determined by the State)?

    The disruptive and increasingly demanding (of parents and the system) funnel creates all kinds of incentives for a parent to buy-into the pills as a means to shore up the freefall – as well as the increased demands on them to administer the at-home aspects of the IEP, the increased logistical demands of special this or that, and the additional parenting required in terms of the out-of-school psychological and/or behavioral care are too much for most. Especially single parents. They just don’t have the time or money or desire to navigate this.

    And this in a culture where drugs are directly marketed to consumers (only the USA and New Zealand allow this by law), where psychotropic drugs are deemed “safe” for kids without even understanding most of the actual individualistic neurochemical mechanics, and where the basic nutritional/dietary needs and other aspects of home-life are almost entirely overlooked in the calculus of prescribing pharma intervention.

    It used to be one or two of these kids every so often. Part of the problem now is that it is 1/3 of the class at any one time. But women are winning most of the medals at the olympics this year, so go USA. Plus: the Russians!

  31. Antiviruses are toxic to toxic viruses. They cancel each other out. Dont fall into the frame, amplify (minus the agree part)

  32. Don’t take too much comfort in “the parents have to give permission.” If you deny your kids medication deemed necessary, you will have a social worker show up at your door and tell you that you are required to give your permission. If you refuse the social worker, the next day you will have a police show with a subpoena requiring you to appear in court, and the judge will tell you that your permission is required. Guess what happens if you don’t follow what the court orders you to do?

    The weird shit is that they won’t just give the medicine to your kids. They force you to give your consent under threat of violence against your person.

  33. @Sentient, maybe this is conjecture but perhaps our social insistence on medicating boys for “disruptive” behavior (boys are defective girls) is a reason for the rise in SSRI prescriptions?

  34. @Sentient.
    Yep. Big Pharma lobby is one of (if not THE) biggest. NRA? $5MM. vs. Pharma $3.5B. Or somesuch. TV/Media ad revenue? Pharma.

    The culture is toxic indeed. The other side of the drugged-up coin is health and nutrition. The first-world version of nutritional famine is real. The chronic disease rate among children is astronomical. Look up some stats. If you live in a bubble like me you will have no idea how shitty the epidemiology looks.

    Obese and diabetic parents make their kids the same. Who will take these kids to the park, hiking, hunting, fishing? I read a “study” somewhere that kids in London spend less time outside than convicts. Probably a shit study, but I can believe the gist of it.

    The corn-soy-wheat-fat-sugar diet and the corresponding inflammation-insulin effects are just beginning to be understood; the implications are huge. The gut-brain connection in terms of hormones and neurochemistry is compelling. The gut contains more neurotransmitters than the spinal cord. Research is increasingly linking inflammation with mood and cognition. Some even hinting that depression may be an inflammatory issue and a gut-biome issue which is predominantly a dietary issue.

    None of this is even discussed, let alone investigated prior to pilling-up these kids. Blood work for micronutrients? Dietary modification plan? Health coaching? NFW. Modern medicine is largely a sales pipeline for pharma and most people are fully on board. This is even more so at medicaid/public hospital systems where they are just billing uncle sam full retail.

    And how likely is a parent (who is also likely taking her own pills) going to expose any territory that might make her actually responsible for the kid’s behavior and well being? “Ask your doctor” indeed. Take your sick cat to the vet, the first thing they ask is “what are you feeding it?” But a kid living on pop tarts, chicken nuggets, and mac n cheese obviously just needs some Eli Lilly brain candy.

    I grew up eating what my parents ate. Which wasn’t always optimal, but it was food and not feed. Meat, vegetables, fruit. Plenty of sandwiches and cereal, but packaged goods were fairly rare. Now its a mac-and-cheese world. Most kids I know are corn-wheat-sugar (redundant) fueled. They “won’t” eat regular food. Nobody wants to force them. And frankly, the parents are no better. Then the kids go wild. Won’t listen. Can’t concentrate. Misbehave. Sleep poorly. Etc.

    I don’t mean to rant, but this all hits close to home. I’m debating whether or not to uproot my life move 1,000 miles to be closer to my nephew who is being “raised” by his obese, diabetic, makework state-employed, bitter man-hating single mom. Plus I’m snowed in and all work and no play….

  35. Sigma
    February 20, 2018 at 11:19 am

    I suppose I was lucky. I wrote for an alternative newspaper at the time (Libertarian Perspective in a communist rag – we agreed on the Drug War) and they knew if they pulled anything I would cause a shit storm.

    If i mentioned my name to an officer – they ALL knew me. I was interfering with their cash cow.

    The editor actually asked me to stop writing because they were getting so much flack from local establishment.

  36. Rollo

    Sentient, maybe this is conjecture but perhaps our social insistence on medicating boys for “disruptive” behavior (boys are defective girls) is a reason for the rise in SSRI prescriptions?

    Could be. Whether it is cause or effect, drugging is an issue. And the money. All serve the end goals of Equalist owners. Now where the apparent rise in female teacher / male student sex figures in is a question? Perhaps they can’t help themselves to the only Alpha they see? Keep a few defect free…

  37. So the FI social engineers suck at their job?! We should remind them that wishful thinking is not thinking.

  38. @Razorwire

    I hear you man, I actually use that same expression that it’s straight up child abuse especially on the nutrition piece at public schools. Breakfast will be stuff like muffins or cakes(not joking), no eggs or beans at all like when I was in school. They say they care about the kids, but that right there is sending them on a straight diabetic train, I let my son eat once a week from the cafeteria, usually when it’s pizza ,is the day he chooses and breakfast once a week also other than that it’s lunch from home, proper nutrition is key.

    On your nephew, it’s a tough draw for him, the deck is stacked , it looks bad now but when you map out his life in the future it gets even bleaker, hang in there man, have as much influence as possible. When the boys meet a real positive masculine figure they are drawn to said men, even when older , they will respond it’s in the genes/biological so hope is never truly lost.

    The school system/state is a business with a profit incentive for the players and I have always regarded it as so, even as a teenager I had a sense it was so. Once you realize they are not there to help you and are just another business you can then treat it appropriately and view it through that profit lens and make your decisions appropriately.

    To truly positively impact the lives of young boys requires hard work, and the deck is 100% stacked against that, so you will be swimming upstream and battling a hell of a current but the end goal is worth it.

  39. goddamn, razor is sharp as fuck today

    nearly cut my eyeballs on that shit, I hope you get snowed in more often

  40. re: Dennis Dutton links upthread (Is There Anything Good About Men? by Roy F. Baumeister)…. great read and articulation of many RP points

    plus, it’s not a difficult read and shorter than most of sjf’s posts

  41. On SSRIs, a young guy at work is on them (late 20s), he is up and down on them, sometimes really happy , sometimes down, and rapid cycling within the same day it seems. Not a good idea to mess with brain processes/chemicals externally , you are asking for trouble but it doesn’t take some genius to figure that out. I was at the doctors last year and could overhear the conversation in the next room and it was young guy afraid to go on SSRIs or some type of mental medication, and he was concerned about it altering his personality, the medical person told him he would be basically be fine.

    Never trusted them and I myself battled through some pretty tough stuff a few years ago. Once again I had to put in the work mentally and work on myself and my thought patterns and rewire a new stable base/foundation to encounter the new situations and build up from there, wasn’t fun, but again hard work always pays off.

  42. Thanks MSimon, I will check it out. I’ve done a lot of rudimentary study of cannabinoids as part of an abandoned start-up in CBD, but haven’t dug into it in a while. That kind of signaling and mobility of inflammation is part of the depression/mood disorder link too; inflammation flowing into the brain directly and wreaking havoc. Fascinating stuff.

    I’m near-convinced that systemic inflammation is a huge (of course interrelated) area of study that has potential to crack open some longstanding mysteries and misunderstandings.

    One more area where the internet and some self-directed gumption is leading individuals out of their own personal hells. A long way to go before things get built into the system though. There is still a 20 year lag on basic nutrition, e.g. the fat/cholesterol folly. Like the RP, word is spreading but the discipline and hard work is still squarely on the individual – and a lot of headwind.

  43. “The world needs you.”

    I suspect the vast majority of men who realize the lies they’ve been sold will take the Rorschach of Watchmen line of thinking in reaction to that plea:

    “…all the whores and politicians will look up and shout ‘Save us!’… and I’ll look down and whisper ‘No.'”

    If you expect men to save the world, you damn well better give them incentive to save it.

  44. “If you expect men to save the world, you damn well better give them incentive to save it.”

    sheesh sun, not gonna preach to you but I’d hope that it’s not all that gloom and doom

    the beauty is that a man need only save himself and that’s incentive enough; and by doing this, he will be doing his part to save the world

    I don’t expect every man to make it but that’s his choice, and that’s no different that for anything else, just like it’s always been for men

  45. Sun Wukong
    February 20, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    If you expect men to save the world, you damn well better give them incentive to save it.

    Just to prove we can do it? Because it is Tuesday?

  46. @dr zipper

    I didn’t say they should put it that way, but from what I’ve seen that’s the general reaction to a mere taste of The Red Pill. Most guys don’t get through to the other side to find hope, hence the reason the most visible Red Pill demographic I’ve seen has been the very angry side of MGTOW. Even in my own personal experience the trip has not been easy by any stretch.

    It’s unfortunate, but I suspect the story does not positively in general.

  47. Razorwire, Sentient, FoxGuy:

    Adding to all your unassailable data, here’s a reminder from the Capt. Obvious Dept.:

    All this dosing of children with SSRI’s, amphetamines (Ritalin) and diazepams (anti-depressants) were complete baldface fucked in the head EXPERIMENTS. None of these compounds was indicated for pediatric use when they were approved. No diagnostic studies were done on children with them. Nor could they have been. (Want parent would agree to subjecting a kid to a long terms drug test protocol with no guarantee how it would fuck them up down the road?). So all of this was done “off-label”, as the saying goes. Better Living Through Chemistry.

    But let’s do that there goofy shit anyway. Does it shut them up and make them docile? Great. On with the standardized testing. Fuck what happens 10 -20 years from now after ingesting daily dosages over that time.

    Which is also why I go Bonkers in Yonkers over the new “trendy” medicinal voodoo: medical transgender reassignments also via Better Living Through Chemistry. Puberty-arresting hormones, estrogen to boys to grow boobies and atrophy dickswinging, testosterone injections and mastectomies to make this side of her woman be a man. Where the existing literature tells us a lot of these “identity issues” actually sort themselves out by the ages of 19 -20. Oh noes we can’t wait that long, we’ll just be the Buzzfeed model parents who take another flyer, spend $50K – $100K, sprogloid still won’t be happy, maybe xe wants to go back to the old you but now you can’t, oh shit, could be even more fucked up by the time they’re 30.

    Makes more sense to spend those shekels to freeze your eggs or sperm, worst case you can sprinkle them on your sundae.

    (PS: I am aware of the screwy court case where parents lost custody so the grandparents could fulfill the child’s “transition” with their own dough. Yeah it’s screwy alright, but there has to be more to that story the article doesn’t say: what kind of family food fight would ensue where that daft concept would seem like a good idea, let alone go to court over?)

    Not that I am on a rant or anything…

  48. It’s amazing how the modern young’uns are so resistant to a simple paleo-like diet, exercise, sunshine, and analogue hobbies. We are truly getting disconnected from the younger generation.

  49. @FoxGuy
    Thanks. Part of the motivation to move close to my nephew is that I have been working with versions of him for several years and have seen his future in their evolution. Its tragic.

    When I work with these boys it is hard NOT to see so much beauty and potential in them. But you’d also have to be blind to not see that they are starving. Their bellies are not distended and there are no flies pestering their eyes, but they are in a famine.

    The isolation, disenfranchisement, self-loathing, anger, resentment, frustration, and the medicated no-mans-land into which we regularly farm-out these kids starts young and never lets up. As with most lies-turned-policy, at each phase the only option is to double-down. The vice, it keeps on turning and the question is only: how many turns?

    The vast majority are good-hearted and so eager to please someone, particularly a man, that it really takes very little effort on my part to create situations where they can just be boys and feel good about it for a few minutes a week.

    Sure, there are many who are troubled. But considering the context of their lives, what they see, live, eat, breathe on any given day, it is a small wonder that more don’t go off the rails down the road. Boys are fucking amazing. The vast majority grow up into good humans in spite of all of this hate.

    It is really a small thing: to just be present. It really is mostly about just showing up. The rest is innate. They are so incredibly drawn to me and the few others like me, for not much other than the fact that we are men just being men in their presence who actually engage with them as GOOD HUMANS. Most have literally zero men in their lives to even show up.

    That’s part of the sick irony. These women who regularly pimp out their boys to aggrandize themselves within their death cult of progress are being abusive and de-humanizing. Their cult is all about the blank slate unless it is about masculinity.

    Meanwhile, our culture refuses to let women live with the consequences of their choices, but we will let (encourage) them create other lives through which they can continue to exercise their pathologies and their misguided attempts at catharsis over the inevitable suffering that spews from living the lie of having it all.

    Go ahead, freeze those eggs. You can be a mom later. Dad part optional, of course.

    Part of my challenge with my nephew is getting past my anger toward my sister for selfishly creating a life (turkey baster) to make up for her own shortcomings. Then demanding (as they always do) that the world conform according to her personal choices – no, even more – celebrate her for her great sacrifice of creating some “thing” to love her unconditionally regardless of how incompetent or evil she might be.

    Of course I’m just a selfish dick because I’ve never had kids lol. So what do I know.

  50. @Incubus-rising

    “From the article – “In the past, commentary has been mostly forgettable, a basic summary of what’s going on the ice peppered with compliments. Lipinski and Weir take a different approach. They’re blunt and don’t mince words. If something goes poorly — and of course, it often does — they will tell it like it is.”

    That means they are just being “basic bitches”.”

    Yes. But, mostly it is written to frame these clowns as being honest…..both are walking lies.

  51. @Blaximus
    February 20, 2018 at 9:31 am
    There are no excuses. Please stop trying to find alternative answers.

    50 years ago, there weren’t mass shootings or school shootings taking place with regularity. I have to say that this is what I find frustrating about American society. Still trying to excuse shitty, homicidal behavior by finding that ” something ” that could be ” the cause ” outside of the culture itself. American culture is the cause. Why aren’t mass shootings happening anywhere else with regularity?

    I think this is the 12th mass shooting incident this year. Is everyone on anti depressants?””

    Equal,representation includes the representation of imbeciles, thieves, and leeches. It was just a matter of time. Everyone wants their piece of the power pie no matter how incapable they are of earning it or wielding it. There is just no other way to put this. This country’s constitution was drafted on the ideology that all are created “equal”. None of us are “equal”. The fact is we are each unique and different. Many say “well what they mean is equal opportunity”. But this is a diversion, the construct of another lie. Because, you see, the fact is, opportunity is defined by personal ability and initiative at least as much as by circumstance. What we are experiencing is the capitalization of opportunity by some who are favored by current circumstance.

  52. Rollo: “For the moment gyonocentrism must content itself to capitalize on human tragedies to emphasize its new masculinity = bad narrative. The Las Vegas shooting was the first paradigm shift in this respect.”

    Don’t forget Newtown CT, a much closer fit for your point. Vegas fell off the radar screen quickly and oddly.

  53. “I said the same thing. Nobody even mentions Vegas until recently. It’s like it never happened.”

    Just throw out Harvey and change the narrative and its water under the bridge ( Since vegas was pretty bad and even “average people noticed” (Nothing adds up lol))……. Not hard to distract people from things that actually matter.

    Then after every shooting push for gun control and if it goes back switch the narrative and rinse/repeat

  54. Which goes back to the point I was attempting to make earlier. There’s something really, really wrong with the culture, and it only goes in one direction: down.

    This , I believe, is what happens when men are basically zeroed out as a whole in society. It goes off the rails in slow motion, with barely a whimper in the process.

    Lol, maybe Mexico should build a wall ( and pay for it ) to keep us in.

  55. “This , I believe, is what happens when men are basically zeroed out as a whole in society. It goes off the rails in slow motion, with barely a whimper in the process.

    Lol, maybe Mexico should build a wall ( and pay for it ) to keep us in.

    Holy shit. I have this Mexican really attractive (in an organic way, masculine although cute) Internal Resident working with me on a rotation to learn Dermatology this month. (His life and his wife revolves around how his Visas operate. He Ubers to my office. He hopes he can get a car as he soon starts a Cardiology fellowship. A car lease is only at good as his one year renewable Visa.)

    I probe him for stuff. He gave me a rundown on the fucked up narrative of Mexican politics over the last century. Powerfully rundown stuff. Holy shit.

    The culture there including the fucked up medical culture in the U.S.A. He can count on one hand the times he prescribed opioids, anxiolytics and anti depressants down there compared to here. The going pain pill down there is acetominophen after surgery and for pain. I took it as they are all Stoics down there, while here there are all pussies. With the luxury of buffers to the world. A weak, weak non-masculine world.

    My medical assistant mentioned to him that her cousin is a Governor in a state in mexico. She showed him pictures online. He said, holy shit, his son is married to my cousin. She’s a HB8.

    And so it goes. On and on.

  56. In Mexico, you don’t need prescriptions to get practically anything. You can walk into practically any ” drug store ” and purchase whatever you want, fairly cheaply.

  57. As men, we are fighting a very strong current, fighting up a hill and the losses are very very steep at the moment. When you get up to the top of the hill there is another bigger hill that must be conquered and so on, it’s grueling, anyone telling you it isn’t so is bullshitting you.

    Make no mistake, the path forward will be very very tough for everyone involved, these shootings are just a shadowing of what is to surely come, when society and culture devolves down to it’s lowest common denominator. However, there is hope, a lot of males are starting to wake up to fact that the system is not working out for them, this is good. They are not going red pill necessarily but they notice something is not right, that right there is hope, they are open to JBP types.

  58. Razorwire
    Me and you are both in the same boat everything you wrote on this post is a co sign from me. My nephew had a nightmare 2 days ago about me dying. My folks just confronted me about it. Patrick died by suicide 2 yrs ago. At times i know how much he and me mean to each other. Hes mother is a single mom who’s teacher’s came to are house today to come meet with him. Stayed until they both came over, both female…
    His dad isn’t around but just got done with speaking to my mom about the the reason’s i am depressed. Thank you for sharing everything you wrote hit’s home 100%

  59. Blaximus
    February 20, 2018 at 7:32 pm

    It is very obvious that the guy giving the interview is not paying attention. He is probably part of the “woke” crowd. LOL.

  60. > As men, we are fighting a very strong current, fighting up a hill and the losses are very very steep at the moment. When you get up to the top of the hill there is another bigger hill that must be conquered and so on, it’s grueling, anyone telling you it isn’t so is bullshitting you.

    Men have always had to fight ‘mother nature’ to get where they are. The nature of their challenges has changed somewhat, but do remember we came from much more difficult circumstances than the comforts of today.

    Also the whole thing that a father is not needed to raise a child — it just shows how many women thought of husbands and fathers as betas. There wasn’t that much respect anyway.

  61. In defense of recess

    One teacher chimed in to defend the practice—”We work with kids who are coming to [us] from all sorts of situations. I think a lot of times, these kids need to be held accountable for poor decisions”—but most of the people who responded were parents with horror stories. Christine Davis, an organizer with Arizonans for Recess, forwarded me a front-page story from Phoenix’s North Central News showing a gaggle of second graders sitting against posts. A parent snapped the photo “because district leadership was denying that recess was being withheld,” she says.

    Davis’ group tried to get individual school systems to drop the practice, which the state Department of Education had already condemned. But it struggled to achieve buy-in, so the group decided to lobby the state legislature. That body will vote on a recess mandate this spring.

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