The Rational Male – Religion

After 3 years the time has finally arrived. I pushed the button on the official publication of The Rational Male – Religion on January 4th, 2021. I know, I know, it’s been a long time, and try as I might I think the blog suffered a bit for it. The good news is I’ll be getting back to my writing here on the regular again, but I will admit this project consumed me more than I had ever anticipated. The process of writing a book of this caliber taught me a lot of valuable lessons, not just as a writer, but as a researcher and a thinker (if you’ll grant me that). I bit off way too much for me to chew in a lot of ways when I embarked on this project. I’m proud to say I had the commitment to chew it all eventually, but writing a book more or less from whole cloth was something I was less prepared for than my previous 3 books. So, for this Return to the Blog post I’m going to tell you about the book itself, my approach to it, the process of researching and developing it, and what I learned along the way.

The Rational Male – Religion has been available on Amazon (print) and Kindle for a little over 2 weeks now. It’s been the #1 New Release in the Science and Religion category since I published it, and it’s been #1 through #6 in some of the Religious subcategories as well. This is a big compliment to me since my intent from the beginning was to open the Red Pill up to an audience that wasn’t likely to be savvy of the Manosphere. Thus far the dozen or so reviews have all been 5 star, but moreover the comments have been overwhelmingly positive – to the point that some are calling it my best work since the first book. Flattering as that is, it’s the result of a degree of planning, research, discussion and attention to detail that I’ve learned is needed to have anyone outside the ‘sphere take Red Pill praxeology seriously. It’s one thing to discuss the often unflattering truths about women’s nature and the latent purposes of mating strategies; it’s quite another to assert that our personal beliefs and religious faiths are intertwined with them. I knew from the start that I’d be navigating a minefield of readers’ preconceptions, and ego-investments in them. This was my challenge: convey the Red Pill praxeology of intersexual dynamics in the context of personal beliefs while being mindful that the past four generations have had Blue Pill conditioning inform a lot of these beliefs. I also had to bear in mind that the convictions, values and faiths being informed by Blue Pill conditioning aren’t just limited to those with a belief in God.

This was my prime directive in writing Religion. I wasn’t about to sugarcoat or dance around the tough, ego-investment challenging aspects of the Red Pill. I have an obligation to objective truth, but I also didn’t want the book to become a “Rollo bashes religion in this one” effort. The most common hesitation I get from people curious about this 400 page book is “Hey man, I’m an Atheist, religion is just a bullshit cope, should I just skip this one?” Likewise, I have Believers ask me, “Is this book just about bashing Christianity and traditional values?” The answer to both is ‘No’. In fact from the Introduction I anticipated this response. It’s why I wrote the book actually. The Rational Male – Religion is an exploration of human intersexual dynamics and their influence on spiritual belief, religion and social values. Empiricists and Believers alike will get a lot from this book. It is a Red Pill look under the hood at the roots of men and women’s “need to believe” in love, God and the metaphysical to solve our mating imperatives. I don’t try to convert anyone to religion, nor do I try to convince you to abandon your beliefs. As always, it’s about connecting dots and seeing correlations.

Religion is structured differently than any of my previous books. The Rational Male was originally a collection of what I believe are the most imperative Red Pill truths for men to understand in this new era of information. These were drawn from my past essays on this blog, which were prompted by long discussion threads on the SoSuave and other forum posts from as far back as 2002. I then reworked and curated these essays into what is now the Bible of the Red Pill. For Religion I had to take a new approach. Although I drew upon some prior essays, the majority of this book I wrote from scratch. Dalrock of course was a major influence throughout the book, but even for the older ideas it was necessary to rewrite the concepts both to modernize them for the coming decade and to make them accessible to a reader who may not be familiar with the Red Pill we take for granted now. This meant that I had to start from a point of explaining Red Pill root concepts in the beginning chapters and build chapter by chapter to the greater concepts. The overarching theme of the book is the need to recognize that we are now 20 years into a New Age of Enlightenment brought about by the internet, social media and an accessibility to information unprecedented in human history. I make a distinction between old order thinking versus a new order understanding that challenges (and confirms) those old order belief sets. This is the first hurdle most unfamiliar readers will have to consider. Most old order thinking is what constitutes our beliefs, convictions and values, but the data age (for better or worse) access to information (accurate or not) is challenging these ego-investments. Whether or not you think these challenges confirm your beliefs isn’t the point; the point is that this new order information is forcing the past 4 generations – and future generations – to reassess how we’ll progress as a globalized society by accepting new truths or clinging to old order thinking.

The book builds chapter by chapter up to the most salient parts in the final chapters. This is by design. I needed old and new readers to digest the way I come to the bigger concepts of the book before I get to them. This book is by far the most meticulously researched and sources-cited book I’ve ever written. In my prior books and on this blog I’m accused of not having peer-reviewed, har data to back up my assertions. Most of this is just disingenuous filibustering by lazy critics who don’t have the time to click on the links I put in my essays. However, I wasn’t going to have that in this book. I footnote every source I used in the research of this book. If you’re wondering why a book like this took 3 years to produce, a good portion of that time was spent reading and archiving the research. I should add that this aspect of the book is something I don’t see any writers in this sphere doing to such a degree. This process taught me to be very detail conscious about what I was writing. Most people don’t really care about the sources you cite, they just want to know you did look something up. In the TL;DR generation no one will take the time to read through the 20 page, peer-reviewed, meta-analysis they require from you to prove your assertion. They just find one study that reinforces their beliefs, link it, and dismiss you. So, my intent in citing sources in this book was more in the interests of thoroughness and less about trying to change anyones mind about their beliefs.

On Authorship

The biggest change you’ll note in this book is my writing style. I’ve learned to kill my darlings and only rarely pepper in a $10 word when I thought it served. This came from my reading Writing without Bullshit by Josh Bernoff. This book made me realize the importance of presenting my ideas with clarity. The cardinal rule of writing is this; never waste the reader’s time. In the past I’ve used some complex terms and, lets just say long-form, sentence structures to get an idea across. Too many people thought that I was trying to sound intelligent by using words they had to look up afterwards, but I’ve always thought that the English language was too rich to be limited to basic ‘caveman’ words. I don’t write for the 8th grade reading level most journalists are taught to do, however, I realized my ideas were too important not to be accessible to everyone. This book is 400 pages of tight, concise, cohesive writing in a way I really had to retrain myself for. Gone are the superlatives, qualifiers and needless reinforcer adjectives I used to think were useful. I had ample material to use and I knew where I wanted to go with the book from the start, so content wasn’t going to be a problem. The challenge was making it intelligible to all readers, not just the ones who already knew the Red Pill lingo. My purpose then became making the read engaging enough to give readers an Ah-ha! moment about the prior chapter when they got into the following chapter. It became an effort in knowing what to throw out, what to keep and how to simplify saying the same thing in fewer words. As a result, my outlines and my drafts are littered with dead darlings that I wouldn’t have thought twice about keeping in my prior books.

I feel like I’m a better writer for it now. Most of my essays average between 1,800 and 2,800 words. My process usually starts with a hand written outline of concepts I want to hit on and I go from there. Some of these outlines can get really complex as I move from point to point, which create further concepts sometimes. I’ve learned that I don’t necessarily need to cram all of the outline into one essay or one chapter. While I’ve always crafted each post on this blog, I recognize the need for brevity now. The Red Pill praxeology and intersexual dynamics span many subfields, and while I try to be comprehensive in relating the data that makes up Red Pill concepts, at some point I have to trust my readers to get it. Either that, or I have to link what I can and let the bigger ideas carry the concepts into future posts. My challenge now is balancing being thorough with being concise – and all while considering what counterarguments will arise.

I finally feel like an author now. To be an author requires a certain amount of conceit. You read that right; in order to be an author you’ve got to be at least somewhat conceited. Not necessarily in a bad way, but you’ve got to make some presumptions about yourself before you can get past the sticking point of actually typing out ideas on a blank page. The first presumption is the hardest. You have to ask yourself, “Do I actually think I’m so important, worldly or wise that anyone should take me seriously enough to care about what I have to say?” Even if you’re just blogging about something you know well enough, or you just like the topic enough, you have to get past the the hesitation in thinking other people who know better, or are bigger fans than yourself about something you love might be considered better authorities or authors than you.

I don’t really believe in fear being the biggest stumbling block for would-be writers. Most people aren’t fearful of failure or ridicule when it comes to becoming an author. Fear is a stupidly common theme for motivational speakers. Fear is the easiest rationale to target for the ‘go getters’ trying to build a brand on positivity. Fear just sounds like something people would deal with. Athletes, artists writers, everyone’s fearful of failure, right? Wrong. It’s about hesitation in thinking anyone should take you seriously. Then hesitation turns into procrastination and would-be authors turn into pundits or critics, or else they endlessly pontificate about how wrong other authors are and how they’ll correct them in the book they’ll eventually write,…eventually. If you think would-be authors are fearful of failure just look at how easily people blather on for multi-Tweet threads on Twitter, 280 characters at a time. The truth is, damn near anyone can write, but few people are actually authors.

Getting past that hesitation is becoming much easier in the internet age. First it was user groups, then discussion forums, then blogging was the thing that got us past the hesitation. We had to presume that someone, somewhere, might actually read our thoughts and care about them. While social media and Twitter destroyed our critical thinking and insight about what we were writing, it did help to kill any hesitation about presuming someone might think we were unqualified to have an opinion on anything. Fan fiction was one of the first genres of writing to evolve along with the internet. 50 Shades of Grey was literally the work of an amateur fan fiction writer who took the time to become an actual author. Her book was roundly criticized as fan pablum by critics, but you couldn’t argue with the numbers. At some stage a writer has to say screw it and just go for broke. Readers and critics be damned, when we become and author we write a book we want to read.

Once you get past the hesitation, and trot your ideas out in the open it comes down to honing your craft.  The craft of writing is the next stumbling block to becoming an author. Anyone can write Tweet or a blog post and be entertaining. It takes an author to hold a reader’s attention for 300 pages. Most writers today are little more than word processors. The self-published “authors” of today were the cubicle jockeys of yesterday writing fan fiction or political screeds from their workstations on company time when they got bored. Just the self-appointed title of author has a romance to it. Few writers today actually know the craft of writing or storytelling, much less a comprehensive knowledge of what they’re relating most of the time. Even learned professors with lots of letters in their degree’s titles who find a new popularity in the Hustle Economy really have a grasp of how to write well.

I’ve often wonder when I could start thinking of myself as a real author. One book? Three books? How many pages do those ‘books’ need to have for me to be considered legitimate? Hemingway’s, Old Man and the Sea is 128 pages long. Hmm,…so, not pages. What about word count? 27,000 for that book. Nope, not word count. Damn, what makes a book a book and a writer an author? Inspiration? Sincerity? Drive, moxie, perseverance? Probably all of those and a few more adjectives I can muster, but when should a guy start calling himself an author? The best answer I can come to is when he’s honest with himself. When you’re honest with yourself about the reasons why you write, why you feel you need to write, when you have mental conversations with yourself about what you’re going to write, all without the pretense of how anyone will misinterpret your words or any thought to what your grandchildren will think about you in the future – that’s when you’re an author. When you’ve filled your 7th little notebook to remember ideas in because your sick of forgetting the brilliant things that came to you at 2am when you woke up to take a piss in the middle of the night, that’s when you’re an author. When you write to yourself and not for your readers, that’s when you’re an author. When you sit down at your iMac with no inspiration and write for 4 hours anyway, then you proof read the brilliant, inspired, words that came to you during the last 30 minutes, that’s when you’re an author.

That’s all very prosaic, but being an author needs to be defined now more than ever. It’s easy to write — it’s a calling to be an author. Lord knows, I never planned to be an author. The Rational Male wasn’t published until I was 45 years old. It took a lifetime to come to the knowledge and craft necessary to write it. Few people actually read books today. They’d rather listen to them, or they skim through them, watch the movie or just read the outline to form an opinion of the ideas or material. I’ve called this the TL;DR GenerationToo Long; Didn’t Read. Feed me the salient points so I can see if you’re full of shit, call you on it or give you praise, and then move on to the next post. Actually writing something that stops a reader in their tracks is the hallmark of an author. Writing something that inspires genuine conversation, debate or writing a story that a reader can lose themselves in is the craft of an author. Writing something a reader actually internalizes, especially in this generation, is a rare, practiced, gift of an author. Being an author is difficult today. The distractions are endless. It’s not enough to just write ideas and relate them with skill, you have to be engaging and accessible to your readers in ways that authors from past eras never imagined. This is why most writers never become authors. Writers lose themselves in the distractions. They get lost in building identities, brands and images of themselves they believe their fans expect of them. Authors write in spite of themselves. Authors are so enveloped in their ideas and craft that they don’t care if they come off as assholes for ignoring distractions. Writers get off on the image of being writers, authors are too busy exploring and relating ideas.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

81 comments on “The Rational Male – Religion

  1. Already finished Religion, good book Mr. Rollo! As you say, it’s unlike the past 3 books, which were ‘Best of’ compilations of your past blog essays. Great material all of it, but No. 4 is certainly the most structured of the bunch. I caught a few typos in it but only small stuff.

    You’ve already said you’ll do a 2nd edition touch-up of book 1 – looking forward to it! If you ever revise book 2, add in that ‘Forever 21’ joke in the Epiphany phase section lol :p
    Also, best of luck in your endeavors this year and in the future, I’m sure Religion won’t be the last time your name is on a cover. Too much great material in this site not yet in print haha 😉

  2. Rollo, why are the reviews for the Kindle edition bunched together with reviews for your other Kindle books?

  3. Found an interesting article that ties exactly to Roosh’s downfall as the God pill guru

    Notice how the author states that the red pill “movements” and of course , the god pill “movements” are not much different.

    I think she is right, there are far too many poseurs and grifters in the manosphere proposing god to be the final answer for all human miseries, which in my opinion is clearly not true.

    1. Disagree. God is the answer to all human miseries. Because it addresses the problem of the corruption of human nature and of the corruption of the nature of this earth.

      You see poseurs and grifters. But wait and see. What would be their actions? This will show who they really are.

      1. I prefer the movie Alejandro Jodorowsky movie “The Holy Mountain” to answer this question.
        Awesome surreal movie experience with a clever ending and loads of boobies. It’s the ultimate movie trip.

        The TLDR meaning of that film (yes, I found one!), is that the highest level of spiritual enlightenment is found in rejecting all BS and dogma and facing and accepting reality! In other words, enlightenment is found in accepting, living, and walking in truth and not being sucked into accepting bullshit.

        Christianity sort of gets there. Jesus is a metaphor for objective truth (the way the truth and the life).
        Jesus – like any truth when faced with any corruption that seeks to distort it – is murdered and buried.
        Only problem is that you can’t kill the truth. Reality, science and fact cannot be overturned – and even if you bury it – just like Jesus, it will get out from it’s tomb and rise from the dead.
        Then it will come back to bite you in the arse at a later date.

        That’s the Bible message!
        Interestingly though, is that if the pursuit of truth (finding Jesus) is the goal of Christianity – surely the end goal is science and possibly atheism!

  4. “Authors write in spite of themselves. Authors are so enveloped in their ideas and craft that they don’t care if they come off as assholes for ignoring distractions. ”

    Rolling and David bowie and lou reed

    Fame and fortune and truths

  5. Nice one Rollo, I will be purchasing your book

    I’m reading Gabor Mate (hold on to your kids) – I recommend this thoroughly too

  6. Received my hard copy on the 13th, I know I said I would buy 10 copies , gonna read mine first.

    This caught my eye in the forward ” And being judgmental of any woman is the most grievous of sins a man can commit in the new order church.”
    Noted , yet they can and do jab at one another revealing each others true nature.

    I will take my time reading this book. With 3 preachers in the immediate family 1 of them a woman , The light you shine on the behavioral dynamics can be momentarily blinding , this becomes an internal distraction. Again I will take my time.

    As to your writing , I am not worthy to comment but to say it’s a much easier read.

    Shine it on Rollo!

  7. @Rollo

    “It’s about hesitation in thinking anyone should take you seriously. Then hesitation turns into procrastination…”

    Writing’s been a passion of mine my entire life, and what you wrote about being an author here rings very, very true. I’ve had draft after draft for book after book, and the hesitation is what really kills it. Second guessing your ideas, your thesis, the purpose behind what you’re saying…that leads to indefinite procrastination, and even giving up completely for long periods of time.

    Which is okay. It’s all part of the process. You can’t force good, purposeful writing like you can force yourself to fix a car or build something out of physical materials. The pressure to write ends up becoming more about image and the fantasy of social recognition/reward than what you’re actually writing about. And meaningful writing will never come from a place like that. Ever.

    “Even if you’re just blogging about something you know well enough, or you just like the topic enough, you have to get past the the hesitation in thinking other people who know better, or are bigger fans than yourself about something you love might be considered better authorities or authors than you.”

    100%. I’d add that having a mind geared towards perfection and precision only adds to this hesitation. You can get so concerned with everything being “correct” that you end up paralyzed. Always worrying that someone else might know more than you, or that you’re missing something that would qualify you to be an authority on the subject.

    Ironically, hesitation to claim authority on a subject may very well be a direct result of having the exact qualifications that make someone an authority: high attention to detail, quality, and accuracy.

    “Writers get off on the image of being writers, authors are too busy exploring and relating ideas.”

    Yes, yes, and yes again. The good thing is being humbled is extremely easy in today’s world of short attention spans. Everyone’s always attracted to the shiny new object. It’s easy to produce extremely high quality content and get little or no recognition for it. This lack of social validation can actually be a treasure to “content creators” of any nature.

    When the reward is withheld, and you’re living in a world where it’s almost guaranteed that even with extremely high quality, unique and refreshing writing (or content of any other sort), you’re not going to get any recognition, let alone any money or social status, well….

    …it becomes much easier to focus on what’s really important: the content. The expression. Making something you’re proud to put your name behind. “Clout chasing” is the name of the game today, and it’s all an illusion.

    Lately I’ve been having a great time focusing on making the best content I can. Writing is on the backburner, but this post really inspired me to move that higher up on the roster. This is really an excellent article, Rollo, and it’s great to have a look inside your mind as far as your actual thought and writing process goes. You’re a fair amount older than I am, and it’s also reassuring to me to think I might simply need more time and experience to collect my ideas enough to be an authority on them myself.

    Again, great post. Lots to think about. Very refreshing change of pace to get a look inside your mind and your experience with becoming an author gradually over time.

    To come full circle: this is what “true love” is, the Disney ideal we were all programmed to fantasize about and hope for. Passion and drive. Having a purpose. Creating. It’s almost as if idealization of romantic relationships is a substitute for a lack of independent passion and drive. The fire inside of a person going out, so they try to find it in someone else, thinking that will save them. Bad decisions and disasters ensue.

    I’ve been having a great time cultivating my energy alone, dedicating every single day to working on my own craft and passions. Without getting specific, I’ve been building up my skills slowly and deliberately every day. It’s invigorating in a subtle, steady way.

    Really appreciate you writing about this. Just an idea: would love to see a book from you about being/becoming an author, the writing process, your experiences with it, everything. Your ideas expressed in this post are very valuable and I think a dedicated book really expanding on this subject could be extremely helpful to aspiring authors. You also have been through the ringer, having real world experience publishing and everything that comes with that. Just a thought.

  8. “She left,” Braunwyn continued. “He flew out. When he was there we had a very amazing talk. I was like, ‘I want to be with women. I would love to try to have an open marriage with you. I think we should try this because you’re still my best friend, like, I love you. And he agreed to it.”

    The couple, who share seven children, are still figuring out their new relationship — with Sean also starting to date. Braunwyn said she found out when they got back from the trip that another woman had been in their home.

    No more head shakes left…

    1. @Sentient


      @Rollo really did deconstruct that whole algo… just like f*kin’ clockwork…lol

      hmmm… mid-40’s… married to uber-beta, who’s failed every prior sh*t test… and she just keeps ramping the tests down… trying to find his ‘bottom level of finally pushing back’… plus needs more MALE attention (bc of the mid-40’s thing…lol)…

      = sh*t test…

      a very public sh*t test…

      and right on schedule too…lol

      “I’ve never been attracted to men physically,” she added.

      says the girl with 7 kids…lol

      “You’ve never been attracted to Sean physically?” Cohen asked her in regards to her husband of over two decades. She came out as a lesbian in December.

      After a long pause, she answered, “No. And it breaks my heart to say that.”

      not being ‘attracted’ to a uber-beta?… Noooo!… Really??!!!???…


      “Oh, Shari is a lesbian?” Kirschenheiter asked.

      “No,” Braunwyn answered. “No. Just we had a thing.”

      Braunwyn then noted that they had never done anything physically, but they had an emotional connection.

      lol… that’s not a ‘lesbian’…lol… that’s just a girlfriend…lol…

      and not even in the good ‘i was just experimenting… it was just a phase’ type of way…lol

      also, the ratings must have taken a hit, so she needed some controversy…lol

      and that photo says it all…lol

      No more head shakes left…

      right there with you…lol

      and say… just curious… how many tributes does your district have to send to the games this year?…

      and may the odds ever be in your favor!…

      good luck!

  9. This isn’t from The Babylon Bee… or is it?

    Last month a post by Chandler Walker, a 22-year-old social media intern, condemning this behaviour went viral.

    “I’m frustrated that I even have to write this post, but I feel like many women are experiencing the same thing,” Walker wrote in a post that has since received more than 25,000 likes. “LinkedIn is not a dating app — please do not connect or message me on LinkedIn — unless you want to network. I have worked my whole life to be taken seriously as a professional woman. An unwarranted personal message that has nothing to do with work — on a website that is specifically for professional networking — is unacceptable.”

    22 YO intern… lol

    Type PR or Outside Sales into linkedIn and compare the women’s photos… lol And watch the algo go to work if you click on a hot blonde…

    and every 40+ career gal’s pic is at least 10 years old.

    1. @Sentient


      Flat heads inbound!!!

      lol… yikes!…

      i wonder how much hunter is gonna get kicked back (with 10% for the big guy…lol) when he gets signed up next week…lol… slo joe and the ho gotta gets PAID!!!…lol

      maybe the ccp can push him as a new action hero over there…lol


      he wears JUST a cape… lol

      and his ‘superpower’ is being creepy…


      good luck!

  10. @Sentient
    Type PR or Outside Sales into linkedIn and compare the women’s photos… lol And watch the algo go to work if you click on a hot blonde…

    and every 40+ career gal’s pic is at least 10 years old.

    I assume you haven’t seen BeLinked yet?

    BeLinked is a dating app of ambitious singles based on the LinkedIn network.
    Date Like a Professional.



    You can’t tell how tall a person is from a LinkedIn profile, but (am I right, guys?) ladies need to shut up about their high-heeled height requirements already. There are more important things to care about, such as likelihood of home ownership.

    Some chick discovers the SSH…

    Lily? Well… “Non-Binary TransFemme”

  11. Hi Rollo,
    Just some house keeping – a lot of the blog roll on the right side of the page are either gone or stopped. Maybe its not a top priority just letting you know

  12. There’s a one reason that people don’t really want to read non-fiction books these days, in their entirety. The reason that people only want to know the basic gist of it, the main points.
    That’s especially true for self-help books.

    The problem with them is that these books usually consist of 2-3 solid points/ideas that can be reduced to several tweet posts on Twitter. And then to get those points across, the writers need to add so much filler, beat around the bush, and dance around these ideas, to actually reach a character count for this effort to be counted as a book.

    That’s why I’d rather listen to a 30-40 minutes book summary, than to read 300-400 pages of rambling around couple of good ideas.

    PS Congratulations on the book!

    1. It’s true that most self-help books are heavily padded. I used to see it all the time at chain bookstores.

      However, Rollo’s essays are generally not padded, because he’s got more than one thing to say, and sometimes comes at a topic from multiple perspectives.

      Some books are not all that popular because they are challenging to read. People don’t want to do the work.

  13. Are feminists incapable of forming emotional bonds?

    Or are they all greedy cock gobblers with penis breath?

  14. Two thoughts out of many that come out of Rollo’s post:

    “The secret to success in any endeavor (especially writing) is knowing what to leave undone.”
    Based on a quote attributed to Oswald Chambers, a Scottish Theologian

    “Man ultimately decides for himself. And in the end, education must be education toward the ability to decide.” (Viktor Frankl)

  15. Yearly American religious experience called “super bowl” is now done. Adverts not particularly clever. Halftime reminded me of some bad SF movie from the 70’s, or a NPC gif.

    Brady took the younger men to school.
    Gronk looks like hall of fame material for sure.

  16. I have not yet read Rollo’s books so I don’t know whether Rollo has dealt with the the rigid mentality present in some rural parts of India like below

    The guy here shows how some MEN in particular have problems with inter-caste marriages and inter-religious marriages. Is there any way to justify this behavior in a red-pill lens using knowledge from evolutionary psychology and more importantly, should we be able to justify that?
    Should we be sympathetic to this view from Trad-con people or nah?
    Looking forward to your comments, gentlemen.

  17. Rollo, typo error:

    Even learned professors with lots of letters in their degree’s titles who find a new popularity in the Hustle Economy really have a grasp of how to write well.

    Something’s missing, like “to” or “have to” as in “really have to have a grasp of how to write…”
    Trivial but there it is.

  18. @Rollo

    You may be missing out on some good Sex Week sessionzzzz lolzzzz:

    Dating 101: Finding the Perfect Partner
    That’s Toxic: A Talk on Healthy vs Toxic Masculinity
    Kiss Me Thru The Phone: Cybersex during COVID-19
    Beyond the Gender Binary with Alok
    The Policy on Our Bodies: A Panel on Current Legislation
    They Work Hard For the Money: Sex Work with Dr. Teela Sanders
    Holy Sexuality: Envisioning Inclusive Sex Ed in Faith Settings
    So You’re Thinking of Law School? = social justice-oriented lawyering work
    Abortions Explained Plainly: A Panel of Professionals
    Life’s a Drag: A Conversation with the Drag Community
    Decolonizing Porn: Why We Need Ethical Production with Sally Fenaux for Erika Lust Films
    Go Crazy for Gonads: A Reproductive Anatomy Presentation
    A Conversation with Dr. Hatzenbuhler = minority stresses and outcomes in the LGBT community
    Misconceptions about Contraception and Other Forms of Protection
    Smashing the Stigma on Sex
    Not Your High School Sex Ed
    Plan B(ingo)
    Kink 101
    Performative Allyship with OffTheLake Productions
    Vanilla Sex, But With Toppings: A Conversation on Alternative Pleasure
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  19. Fuck me this blog is dead 😬 great body of work from the past but sadly killed by the authors preoccupation with religion a topic that most alpha males couldn’t give a fuck about because they believe that they control their own destiny and don’t need an imaginary friend for adults

      1. Rollo this article has been up over a month and has 42 comments including yours telling me to read the book.
        Not so long ago 600 plus comments within days of a new essay was the norm.

        I’m forever in your debt for the RP knowledge I’ve gained from this site over the years it’s changed my mindset and outlook enormously and my life is so much better than it otherwise may have been because of that. Thanks

        However I have no interest in reading the latest book because I don’t have to “square away” my red pill knowledge and actions with my God or religion because I don’t have either! and I’m obviously not alone as can be seen by the dwindling interest here.

        Still a great reference blog for men finding the RP for the first time though the early work was fantastic.

  20. Rollo, thank you – your work is important. Two years ago I discovered your first book exactly when I needed it; I internalized every word and my life became incredible ever since. Today my friend killed himself after another girlfriend left him. He knew Game and RSD, but was still blue-pill and hadn’t heard of The Rational Male when I brought it up. Maybe reading your books could have made a difference for him. I hope more guys can unplug before its too late.

    1. There is “game” and then there is Game.

      “game” is when you can manipulate girls to get sex.

      Game is when you can read people so that you understand everyone’s tactics and strategy. With Game, you understand girls’ sexual wiring and can predict their tactics and strategy, among many other things.

      Think “The 48 Laws of Power” by Greene to understand Game.

      There’s more than Game to wisdom, including an understanding of biology and the need that you have to reproduce and why that’s a good thing.

      I fakked up and only have one grandchild and now all my eggs are in that one basket. Don’t make my mistake. Have several children and make sure that they understand wisdom.

      There are several cons going on that you should be aware of, including the overpopulation con and the global warming con. (And, of course, the rigged covid numbers con.)

      1. Since I have a child I feel somewhat qualified to comment – but the idea that you “own” your own children (or at least the dream or idea of being able to do this) is a fallacy.
        It’s bandied about a bit in PUA circles that the reason for patriarchal society is so that men can know who their children are – to make sure that they are theirs. However, this is just mental masturbation IMHO.

        My child, just like the children of my friends – have turned out to be nothing like their parents. They might resemble them a little bit, but essentially they are not a clone of you. They are a mix of your genes and their mother’s genes plus a little bit of whatever random dice roll nature gives them. They don’t turn out like you at all. You are essentially raising “children of God” (using that term loosely), and by being a parent you are simply in charge of looking after them. It would honestly feel no different if I were raising an adopted child to be honest.

        That is why if you want to have lots of kids, the best way is to never tie yourself down to one woman. She wanted the kids, so it’s not your job to raise them unless you want it. So there’s no need to stick around. There are a lot of women who would just be happy with a child more than having a husband float around. To be honest, aside from bringing in money, you are fairly useless in raising a child as a man. Once the kid hits 7 years old, the seven year itch kicks in and then you really aren’t required!

        I don’t disagree with you. Leaders of the world are con-artists who do everything they can to reduce the population – by consent where they can. See “Everything is a Rich Man’s trick” by Richard Connolly on youtube for example. Another good documentary is “A Century of Self” which talks about the psychological underpinnings of propaganda in “guiding” democracy – and manufacturing consent.

        The western media giants (run by a particular group of people it is illegal to insult) beat us daily on the heads with what they want us to think, but don’t bother telling us how the financial markets are rigged so we can exploit them ourselves just like they do. They just want us to think that $20,000 is a lot of money which we could win on a TV gameshow… IF we are lucky.
        (By the way the currency markets are massively rigged, and the person who taught me how was a little worried he might end up with a laser pointer floating over his head one day.)

        1. The idea that you are simply an individual is a fallacy. Life is not a “thing,” it’s a process. You are just an instantiation of that process, the current end point on a creeping line. That line is the life, not you. You are just the current trustee of that life. You don’t “own” your children, they are you. That is to say part of the same life that you are a part of, cells of the true organism.

          Dying as an individual doesn’t mean anything. Dying without reproducing, keeping the line moving as is your responsibility as trustee of the life, is the true death: extinction.

          It is said that the species homo erectus is extinct, but that is the product of the individual fallacy of life. It’s children are all over the bloody place. It didn’t “fail,” it succeeded magnificently.

          They talk about Survival of the Species, but that too is an extension of the fallacy. Species are not “things.” They are static snapshots of a dynamic process. To see the “thing” you must assemble all the individual frames into a movie.

          Species do not fight for survival. Species are an illusion. It is the process, the creeping line, life itself that fights for survival. The process wears the clothes of many species along the way, adapting those clothes to the climate of it’s moment in time, discarding those clothes that no longer serve.

          Nice clothes you got there, Mister. Be a shame if anything should happen to them.

  21. This comment got me banned on askmrp. But I stand by it.

    RP is a “How to Become What Women Want” program based on the counterintuitive premise that what women want is for men to not care about what woman want.

    To become what women want you have to stop caring about what women SAY they want and start being what they REALLY want.

    RP claims to posses the knowledge of what women REALLY want. It promises to reveal how men can become that.

    Hence, RP is about becoming a man that is more pleasing to women.

    RP is not sexist or misogynistic because at it’s core, RP wants nothing more than to please women.

    Further thoughts…
    RP is a methodology aimed at altering oneself to be more pleasing to women. The practitioner of RP says to himself, “If I master RP, then I will get chicks”. If that is not a cover contract, I don’t know what is. I argue that this is a quality of RP and making this covert contract with yourself is positive. It’s positive because RP is a theory that has proven itself effective. It’s only covert contracts that are based on theories that do not produce the desired outcome that should be avoided and viewed as negative. If I do what my wife says, If I provide for her, If I cater to her needs… Then she will love and respect me and I’ll get more of what I want. These are examples of ineffective covert contracts. RP exposes them and offers itself in their place. But it is no less a covert contract. If you do X, you will get Y.

    Yet, time and time again, RP advocates state that it is about being alpha, and alpha is about acting out self interest. Yet the motive to be alpha is to be more attractive to women. Be alpha because women prefer alpha men. It’s a paradox. What women want is for you to care less about what they want and more about what you want. So you focus on what you want because that’s what woman want.

  22. ” . . . the motive to be alpha is to be more attractive to women.”

    Women will say they put on makeup to be attractive. If a man tells them that they are more attractive without the makeup, they will say that they aren’t doing it for him.

    Of course “attraction” is all about attracting the opposite sex.

    But if you point this out the women will scream, “The Patriarchy makes me do it!”


  23. @NATE

    “Yet the motive to be alpha is to be more attractive to women.”


    You couldn’t be much more wrong on just about every point.

  24. alpha is about acting out self interest.

    There you go. You can dispense with the rest. The motive for acting out of self interest is self interest, freedom.

    An effect of Alpha is attraction from women (and men lol)…

    The red pill is merely seeing the world as it is, not how you want it to be or wish it was or so.eone else tells you it is.

    TLDR – everything you are thinking is wrong.

    1. Everyone is Alpha!

      Every action every person has ever taken and will ever take is bound to their own self-interest. No one can act against themselves willfully. Sure we make choices that turn out to yield undesirable outcomes.

      When we act, it’s a tangible revelation of an inward decision to forgo all other possibilities for acting. So what we actually do is based on an internal choice. We choose the option that we believe will serve our interest. It’s important to note that forgoing to act is just as much an action in a binary (yes/no) sense. A choice is made, therefore action occurs. Sitting is choosing not to stand. Choosing not to stand reveals that you perceive it to be in your best interest to sit. Killing yourself is choosing not to live any longer based on the perception that not living is preferable to living. Everyone acts in self interest all the time, without fail. It’s impossible not to. This is true whether you call yourself beta or alpha.

      So define alpha as a state of acting out of self interest is to say that alpha is beta…It’s nothing special. It’s what every single person does naturally.

      Self interest is not an end or goal in and of itself. We act out of it towards desired ends.

      Alpha is a means to achieve something; to get a desired “effect” as you put it. It’s the desired effect to appeal to woman (among other things perhaps) that drives men to be more alpha. It is decidedly not enough to say alpha is to act in ones own self-interest since we as humans can do nothing but act in our own self-interest.

        1. Men who want to have more sex will act in a way they believe will yield more sex. They will act in their own self interest. Betas and alphas are alike in that regard. The difference is not that one group of men acts on self interest and the other does not. A beta who believes that acting passive and catering to women will get him laid is doing so out of self interest just as much as an alpha who implements red pill strategies.

          The study of human action, aka praxeology, is an interesting study. In fact, in its own way red pill is a praxeological approach to understanding intersexual dynamics. A core tenant of praxeology is that all humans act on what they perceive is in their best interest. It is in no way a unique trait of alpha males.

          Obviously, this is futile conversation, so I’m not going to put any more of my time and effort into it. I’m going to act out of self interest and move on.

          1. Just remember at your next stop to note that here it was you who got bent out of shape and self banned.

            We have no problem engaging with you and I look forward to your return.

  25. @NATE

    Men who want to have more sex

    What about men who are getting more sex than they can actually handle?

    Is that even conceivable to you?

  26. I haven’t checked Rollo’s Twatter feed for a while. Just did that.

    Rollo “Morningstar” Tomassi.


  27. Rollo i have read all your 4 books theye were eye opening im doing my best to practice the truth. Thank you brother if it was not you it would rally be hard to find the true natures of humans . Thank you from the bottom of my heart really man for putting this work for men youre saving lives thanks alot. One of your prodcust i was watchibg you mensioned that you will do books recomendation can you please do your favorite books so that we can also bemefit from the . Thank you again

  28. Rollo, Sir, I am a nineteen year old guy from south Asia. These matrix things prevalent in western society that you talk about are catching up in east too. I just had been dumped by my first teenage girlfriend of 1 year when I found this blog few months back. I never had a father figure and I would really like some advice on few problems. Please tell me how I can contact with you personally.

  29. Rollo, Sir, I am a nineteen year old guy from south Asia. This matrix prevalent in western society that you talk about are catching up in east as well. I just had been dumped by my first teenage girlfriend of 1 year when I found this blog few months back. I never had a father figure and I would really like some advice on few problems. Please tell me how I can contact with you personally.

    I would really like to talk to anyone who has swallowed this “red pill”. Need some help.

  30. Quick background, I recently got out of prison 7 months and and and I started to hook up/date this girl I met at work.  We were pretty much were progressing into a couple but she chose this other guy. Im an escort and have slept with many beautiful woman; I’m good in bed, not bragging. I have a dominant frame but I’ve never been in this situation before so I hope you guys can shed some perspective and wisdom.

    So I met this girl at work, she came on to me( she’s a 6 at best, 7 with personality).  I didn’t sleep with her right away, but we ended up hooking up after a week.  We talked about our pasts, who we are, what were looking for. I told her I was an escort and she knew I’m promiscuous.  She didn’t seem turned off by it, she was actually into, so she this going in.

    Further along we begin hooking up for about 2 weeks, and I end up learning about a guy she considers her “boyfriend” whom she’s been talking to for 3 years, so she’s emotionally invested in him.  However, they never hooked up and she said it was because she felt that having sex would ruin their relationship. So he was in the picture, but we had been hooking up and things started to become a little bit more serious and progressed into a relationship/couple.

    A month later, we’re still hooking up and we’re pretty much acting like a couple, I’m staying at her place and we did pretty much everything together. The sex was great; I satisfied her every night.

    Then one day, she tells me she’s gonna drop me off at my place because she’s gonna take her kids shopping but her behavior and vibe said different.  I’m not naive and I’ve been in her place many times so I didn’t say anything overtly or act jealous, I just let her go.  I knew she was gonna see someone.

    Then, she doesn’t text me for days and she ends up telling me she spent the weekend out of town with her “boyfriend” and she was gonna spend the week at his house.  Apparently the sex was amazing( she said that everything they had been holding back, they finally showed each other and he even asked her to move in with him).  I understand that when feelings are involved, the sex is always better.  Also, the whole time she was with him, she was texting me and telling me that she misses me, misses hooking up with me, misses the way i fucked her, told me I’m fine af, I did everything perfect, but that she can’t sleep with two guys at the same time and that she honestly loves this guy and she likes where things are going with him and doesn’t want to fuck it up.  She told me she wants to see me again and wants to hook up again but she won’t hang out with me.  She also said she genuinely got attached to me and fell for me, but she just didn’t know where it was going and what to make of it since she was talking to someone(even we were pretty much a couple at that point, I even met her whole family).

    So my questions are: Did she or does she have genuinely feelings for me? Do you think she saw us as a couple? Would she have stayed with me? Also, if she said she didn’t want to hook up with him, why did she? And why did she ghost me or leave me for the other guy? She said that him having more money wasn’t a factor but it definitely helps(I understand). I’ve been reading posts on this site for many years so I’m aware of game, rules, and conventions but it’s been so awhile and i just wanted to get an objective perspective and honest opinion on the situation.

    Of course, I can answer any questions regarding details and I’ll fill in any gaps to get better perspective on the situation. I just want some honest help. Please be brutally honest.  Thank you guys, you’re all the best.


    1. “General Baptists believe that every woman was created in the image of God, and they should be valued for that reason,” the statement said.

    2. I ran that man’s sermon past some of the Christian manosphere, basically “Everything he says is correct, could say it differently, needs to lose his own belly first. But of course manospherians would say that.

      “On leave … professional counseling”.

      Oh, boy. “There are four lights!”, sure, yeah, whatever.

      “General Baptists believe that every woman was created in the image of God, and they should be valued for that reason,” the statement said.

      Yeah, that “image of God” gets into deeper waters. Basically there’s a little Cafeteria pick-and-choose stuff going on.

  31. Speaking of TRM. Rollo should have a button to send TRM anonymously to someone who might need it.

    Enter their email, click the button and a tight two paragraph intro with links is heading downrange

  32. I would be interested in no bullshit critique of rich cooper’s book The Unplugged Alpha.

    What’s the good, bad, and ugly there?

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