The Rational Male – Religion

After 3 years the time has finally arrived. I pushed the button on the official publication of The Rational Male – Religion on January 4th, 2021. I know, I know, it’s been a long time, and try as I might I think the blog suffered a bit for it. The good news is I’ll be getting back to my writing here on the regular again, but I will admit this project consumed me more than I had ever anticipated. The process of writing a book of this caliber taught me a lot of valuable lessons, not just as a writer, but as a researcher and a thinker (if you’ll grant me that). I bit off way too much for me to chew in a lot of ways when I embarked on this project. I’m proud to say I had the commitment to chew it all eventually, but writing a book more or less from whole cloth was something I was less prepared for than my previous 3 books. So, for this Return to the Blog post I’m going to tell you about the book itself, my approach to it, the process of researching and developing it, and what I learned along the way.

The Rational Male – Religion has been available on Amazon (print) and Kindle for a little over 2 weeks now. It’s been the #1 New Release in the Science and Religion category since I published it, and it’s been #1 through #6 in some of the Religious subcategories as well. This is a big compliment to me since my intent from the beginning was to open the Red Pill up to an audience that wasn’t likely to be savvy of the Manosphere. Thus far the dozen or so reviews have all been 5 star, but moreover the comments have been overwhelmingly positive – to the point that some are calling it my best work since the first book. Flattering as that is, it’s the result of a degree of planning, research, discussion and attention to detail that I’ve learned is needed to have anyone outside the ‘sphere take Red Pill praxeology seriously. It’s one thing to discuss the often unflattering truths about women’s nature and the latent purposes of mating strategies; it’s quite another to assert that our personal beliefs and religious faiths are intertwined with them. I knew from the start that I’d be navigating a minefield of readers’ preconceptions, and ego-investments in them. This was my challenge: convey the Red Pill praxeology of intersexual dynamics in the context of personal beliefs while being mindful that the past four generations have had Blue Pill conditioning inform a lot of these beliefs. I also had to bear in mind that the convictions, values and faiths being informed by Blue Pill conditioning aren’t just limited to those with a belief in God.

This was my prime directive in writing Religion. I wasn’t about to sugarcoat or dance around the tough, ego-investment challenging aspects of the Red Pill. I have an obligation to objective truth, but I also didn’t want the book to become a “Rollo bashes religion in this one” effort. The most common hesitation I get from people curious about this 400 page book is “Hey man, I’m an Atheist, religion is just a bullshit cope, should I just skip this one?” Likewise, I have Believers ask me, “Is this book just about bashing Christianity and traditional values?” The answer to both is ‘No’. In fact from the Introduction I anticipated this response. It’s why I wrote the book actually. The Rational Male – Religion is an exploration of human intersexual dynamics and their influence on spiritual belief, religion and social values. Empiricists and Believers alike will get a lot from this book. It is a Red Pill look under the hood at the roots of men and women’s “need to believe” in love, God and the metaphysical to solve our mating imperatives. I don’t try to convert anyone to religion, nor do I try to convince you to abandon your beliefs. As always, it’s about connecting dots and seeing correlations.

Religion is structured differently than any of my previous books. The Rational Male was originally a collection of what I believe are the most imperative Red Pill truths for men to understand in this new era of information. These were drawn from my past essays on this blog, which were prompted by long discussion threads on the SoSuave and other forum posts from as far back as 2002. I then reworked and curated these essays into what is now the Bible of the Red Pill. For Religion I had to take a new approach. Although I drew upon some prior essays, the majority of this book I wrote from scratch. Dalrock of course was a major influence throughout the book, but even for the older ideas it was necessary to rewrite the concepts both to modernize them for the coming decade and to make them accessible to a reader who may not be familiar with the Red Pill we take for granted now. This meant that I had to start from a point of explaining Red Pill root concepts in the beginning chapters and build chapter by chapter to the greater concepts. The overarching theme of the book is the need to recognize that we are now 20 years into a New Age of Enlightenment brought about by the internet, social media and an accessibility to information unprecedented in human history. I make a distinction between old order thinking versus a new order understanding that challenges (and confirms) those old order belief sets. This is the first hurdle most unfamiliar readers will have to consider. Most old order thinking is what constitutes our beliefs, convictions and values, but the data age (for better or worse) access to information (accurate or not) is challenging these ego-investments. Whether or not you think these challenges confirm your beliefs isn’t the point; the point is that this new order information is forcing the past 4 generations – and future generations – to reassess how we’ll progress as a globalized society by accepting new truths or clinging to old order thinking.

The book builds chapter by chapter up to the most salient parts in the final chapters. This is by design. I needed old and new readers to digest the way I come to the bigger concepts of the book before I get to them. This book is by far the most meticulously researched and sources-cited book I’ve ever written. In my prior books and on this blog I’m accused of not having peer-reviewed, har data to back up my assertions. Most of this is just disingenuous filibustering by lazy critics who don’t have the time to click on the links I put in my essays. However, I wasn’t going to have that in this book. I footnote every source I used in the research of this book. If you’re wondering why a book like this took 3 years to produce, a good portion of that time was spent reading and archiving the research. I should add that this aspect of the book is something I don’t see any writers in this sphere doing to such a degree. This process taught me to be very detail conscious about what I was writing. Most people don’t really care about the sources you cite, they just want to know you did look something up. In the TL;DR generation no one will take the time to read through the 20 page, peer-reviewed, meta-analysis they require from you to prove your assertion. They just find one study that reinforces their beliefs, link it, and dismiss you. So, my intent in citing sources in this book was more in the interests of thoroughness and less about trying to change anyones mind about their beliefs.

On Authorship

The biggest change you’ll note in this book is my writing style. I’ve learned to kill my darlings and only rarely pepper in a $10 word when I thought it served. This came from my reading Writing without Bullshit by Josh Bernoff. This book made me realize the importance of presenting my ideas with clarity. The cardinal rule of writing is this; never waste the reader’s time. In the past I’ve used some complex terms and, lets just say long-form, sentence structures to get an idea across. Too many people thought that I was trying to sound intelligent by using words they had to look up afterwards, but I’ve always thought that the English language was too rich to be limited to basic ‘caveman’ words. I don’t write for the 8th grade reading level most journalists are taught to do, however, I realized my ideas were too important not to be accessible to everyone. This book is 400 pages of tight, concise, cohesive writing in a way I really had to retrain myself for. Gone are the superlatives, qualifiers and needless reinforcer adjectives I used to think were useful. I had ample material to use and I knew where I wanted to go with the book from the start, so content wasn’t going to be a problem. The challenge was making it intelligible to all readers, not just the ones who already knew the Red Pill lingo. My purpose then became making the read engaging enough to give readers an Ah-ha! moment about the prior chapter when they got into the following chapter. It became an effort in knowing what to throw out, what to keep and how to simplify saying the same thing in fewer words. As a result, my outlines and my drafts are littered with dead darlings that I wouldn’t have thought twice about keeping in my prior books.

I feel like I’m a better writer for it now. Most of my essays average between 1,800 and 2,800 words. My process usually starts with a hand written outline of concepts I want to hit on and I go from there. Some of these outlines can get really complex as I move from point to point, which create further concepts sometimes. I’ve learned that I don’t necessarily need to cram all of the outline into one essay or one chapter. While I’ve always crafted each post on this blog, I recognize the need for brevity now. The Red Pill praxeology and intersexual dynamics span many subfields, and while I try to be comprehensive in relating the data that makes up Red Pill concepts, at some point I have to trust my readers to get it. Either that, or I have to link what I can and let the bigger ideas carry the concepts into future posts. My challenge now is balancing being thorough with being concise – and all while considering what counterarguments will arise.

I finally feel like an author now. To be an author requires a certain amount of conceit. You read that right; in order to be an author you’ve got to be at least somewhat conceited. Not necessarily in a bad way, but you’ve got to make some presumptions about yourself before you can get past the sticking point of actually typing out ideas on a blank page. The first presumption is the hardest. You have to ask yourself, “Do I actually think I’m so important, worldly or wise that anyone should take me seriously enough to care about what I have to say?” Even if you’re just blogging about something you know well enough, or you just like the topic enough, you have to get past the the hesitation in thinking other people who know better, or are bigger fans than yourself about something you love might be considered better authorities or authors than you.

I don’t really believe in fear being the biggest stumbling block for would-be writers. Most people aren’t fearful of failure or ridicule when it comes to becoming an author. Fear is a stupidly common theme for motivational speakers. Fear is the easiest rationale to target for the ‘go getters’ trying to build a brand on positivity. Fear just sounds like something people would deal with. Athletes, artists writers, everyone’s fearful of failure, right? Wrong. It’s about hesitation in thinking anyone should take you seriously. Then hesitation turns into procrastination and would-be authors turn into pundits or critics, or else they endlessly pontificate about how wrong other authors are and how they’ll correct them in the book they’ll eventually write,…eventually. If you think would-be authors are fearful of failure just look at how easily people blather on for multi-Tweet threads on Twitter, 280 characters at a time. The truth is, damn near anyone can write, but few people are actually authors.

Getting past that hesitation is becoming much easier in the internet age. First it was user groups, then discussion forums, then blogging was the thing that got us past the hesitation. We had to presume that someone, somewhere, might actually read our thoughts and care about them. While social media and Twitter destroyed our critical thinking and insight about what we were writing, it did help to kill any hesitation about presuming someone might think we were unqualified to have an opinion on anything. Fan fiction was one of the first genres of writing to evolve along with the internet. 50 Shades of Grey was literally the work of an amateur fan fiction writer who took the time to become an actual author. Her book was roundly criticized as fan pablum by critics, but you couldn’t argue with the numbers. At some stage a writer has to say screw it and just go for broke. Readers and critics be damned, when we become and author we write a book we want to read.

Once you get past the hesitation, and trot your ideas out in the open it comes down to honing your craft.  The craft of writing is the next stumbling block to becoming an author. Anyone can write Tweet or a blog post and be entertaining. It takes an author to hold a reader’s attention for 300 pages. Most writers today are little more than word processors. The self-published “authors” of today were the cubicle jockeys of yesterday writing fan fiction or political screeds from their workstations on company time when they got bored. Just the self-appointed title of author has a romance to it. Few writers today actually know the craft of writing or storytelling, much less a comprehensive knowledge of what they’re relating most of the time. Even learned professors with lots of letters in their degree’s titles who find a new popularity in the Hustle Economy really have a grasp of how to write well.

I’ve often wonder when I could start thinking of myself as a real author. One book? Three books? How many pages do those ‘books’ need to have for me to be considered legitimate? Hemingway’s, Old Man and the Sea is 128 pages long. Hmm,…so, not pages. What about word count? 27,000 for that book. Nope, not word count. Damn, what makes a book a book and a writer an author? Inspiration? Sincerity? Drive, moxie, perseverance? Probably all of those and a few more adjectives I can muster, but when should a guy start calling himself an author? The best answer I can come to is when he’s honest with himself. When you’re honest with yourself about the reasons why you write, why you feel you need to write, when you have mental conversations with yourself about what you’re going to write, all without the pretense of how anyone will misinterpret your words or any thought to what your grandchildren will think about you in the future – that’s when you’re an author. When you’ve filled your 7th little notebook to remember ideas in because your sick of forgetting the brilliant things that came to you at 2am when you woke up to take a piss in the middle of the night, that’s when you’re an author. When you write to yourself and not for your readers, that’s when you’re an author. When you sit down at your iMac with no inspiration and write for 4 hours anyway, then you proof read the brilliant, inspired, words that came to you during the last 30 minutes, that’s when you’re an author.

That’s all very prosaic, but being an author needs to be defined now more than ever. It’s easy to write — it’s a calling to be an author. Lord knows, I never planned to be an author. The Rational Male wasn’t published until I was 45 years old. It took a lifetime to come to the knowledge and craft necessary to write it. Few people actually read books today. They’d rather listen to them, or they skim through them, watch the movie or just read the outline to form an opinion of the ideas or material. I’ve called this the TL;DR GenerationToo Long; Didn’t Read. Feed me the salient points so I can see if you’re full of shit, call you on it or give you praise, and then move on to the next post. Actually writing something that stops a reader in their tracks is the hallmark of an author. Writing something that inspires genuine conversation, debate or writing a story that a reader can lose themselves in is the craft of an author. Writing something a reader actually internalizes, especially in this generation, is a rare, practiced, gift of an author. Being an author is difficult today. The distractions are endless. It’s not enough to just write ideas and relate them with skill, you have to be engaging and accessible to your readers in ways that authors from past eras never imagined. This is why most writers never become authors. Writers lose themselves in the distractions. They get lost in building identities, brands and images of themselves they believe their fans expect of them. Authors write in spite of themselves. Authors are so enveloped in their ideas and craft that they don’t care if they come off as assholes for ignoring distractions. Writers get off on the image of being writers, authors are too busy exploring and relating ideas.

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barrynishizawa
9 months ago

I’m looking forward to reading this one, Rollo. Congratulations on completing it.

Upgrade
Upgrade
9 months ago

Already finished Religion, good book Mr. Rollo! As you say, it’s unlike the past 3 books, which were ‘Best of’ compilations of your past blog essays. Great material all of it, but No. 4 is certainly the most structured of the bunch. I caught a few typos in it but only small stuff. You’ve already said you’ll do a 2nd edition touch-up of book 1 – looking forward to it! If you ever revise book 2, add in that ‘Forever 21’ joke in the Epiphany phase section lol :p Also, best of luck in your endeavors this year and in… Read more »

Scott
Scott
9 months ago

Rollo, why are the reviews for the Kindle edition bunched together with reviews for your other Kindle books?

Greg
Greg
9 months ago
Reply to  Scott

Yeah, seems like a mistake on Amazon’s part. Hopefully it gets corrected soon.

Pessimist Incel
Pessimist Incel
9 months ago

Found an interesting article that ties exactly to Roosh’s downfall as the God pill guru

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/a-notorious-pickup-artist-found-god-lots-of-angry-white-radicals-do/2019/05/30/8f009d24-8237-11e9-9a67-a687ca99fb3d_story.html

Notice how the author states that the red pill “movements” and of course , the god pill “movements” are not much different.

I think she is right, there are far too many poseurs and grifters in the manosphere proposing god to be the final answer for all human miseries, which in my opinion is clearly not true.

info
info
9 months ago

Disagree. God is the answer to all human miseries. Because it addresses the problem of the corruption of human nature and of the corruption of the nature of this earth.

You see poseurs and grifters. But wait and see. What would be their actions? This will show who they really are.

Rio
Rio
8 months ago
Reply to  info

I prefer the movie Alejandro Jodorowsky movie “The Holy Mountain” to answer this question. Awesome surreal movie experience with a clever ending and loads of boobies. It’s the ultimate movie trip. The TLDR meaning of that film (yes, I found one!), is that the highest level of spiritual enlightenment is found in rejecting all BS and dogma and facing and accepting reality! In other words, enlightenment is found in accepting, living, and walking in truth and not being sucked into accepting bullshit. Christianity sort of gets there. Jesus is a metaphor for objective truth (the way the truth and the… Read more »

Rugby11
Rugby11
9 months ago

Congratulations

Pessimist Incel
Pessimist Incel
9 months ago

Further studies bringing to light the possible fallacies in the ovulatory shift hypothesis proposed by Gangestad et. al.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704920976318

Rollo, what do you think about it?

rugby11
9 months ago

“Authors write in spite of themselves. Authors are so enveloped in their ideas and craft that they don’t care if they come off as assholes for ignoring distractions. ”

Rolling and David bowie and lou reed

Fame and fortune and truths

Sharkly
9 months ago

I will buy the book soon. Any coupon codes for your dearest fans?

Nostnar
Nostnar
9 months ago

Nice one Rollo, I will be purchasing your book

I’m reading Gabor Mate (hold on to your kids) – I recommend this thoroughly too

Notsnar
Notsnar
9 months ago

Religion is a good way of passing down our culture which at the moment is falling apart

stuffinbox
9 months ago

Received my hard copy on the 13th, I know I said I would buy 10 copies , gonna read mine first. This caught my eye in the forward ” And being judgmental of any woman is the most grievous of sins a man can commit in the new order church.” Noted , yet they can and do jab at one another revealing each others true nature. I will take my time reading this book. With 3 preachers in the immediate family 1 of them a woman , The light you shine on the behavioral dynamics can be momentarily blinding ,… Read more »

Erin
Erin
9 months ago

Good Luck! And please return here and post more.

Valter Viglietti
9 months ago

“because your sick of forgetting the brilliant things”
“your” not “you’re”? Not an author 😉

… Just kidding! 😀

IAS
IAS
9 months ago

Congratulations, Rollo.

Softek
Softek
9 months ago

@Rollo “It’s about hesitation in thinking anyone should take you seriously. Then hesitation turns into procrastination…” Writing’s been a passion of mine my entire life, and what you wrote about being an author here rings very, very true. I’ve had draft after draft for book after book, and the hesitation is what really kills it. Second guessing your ideas, your thesis, the purpose behind what you’re saying…that leads to indefinite procrastination, and even giving up completely for long periods of time. Which is okay. It’s all part of the process. You can’t force good, purposeful writing like you can force… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 months ago

“She left,” Braunwyn continued. “He flew out. When he was there we had a very amazing talk. I was like, ‘I want to be with women. I would love to try to have an open marriage with you. I think we should try this because you’re still my best friend, like, I love you. And he agreed to it.” The couple, who share seven children, are still figuring out their new relationship — with Sean also starting to date. Braunwyn said she found out when they got back from the trip that another woman had been in their home. https://pagesix.com/2021/01/27/braunwyn-windham-burke-husband-sean-on-their-controversial-marriage/… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
8 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

@Sentient lol… @Rollo really did deconstruct that whole algo… just like f*kin’ clockwork…lol hmmm… mid-40’s… married to uber-beta, who’s failed every prior sh*t test… and she just keeps ramping the tests down… trying to find his ‘bottom level of finally pushing back’… plus needs more MALE attention (bc of the mid-40’s thing…lol)… = sh*t test… a very public sh*t test… and right on schedule too…lol “I’ve never been attracted to men physically,” she added. says the girl with 7 kids…lol “You’ve never been attracted to Sean physically?” Cohen asked her in regards to her husband of over two decades. She… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
8 months ago

This isn’t from The Babylon Bee… or is it? https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/linkedin-dating-app-social-media-harassment-120041750.html Last month a post by Chandler Walker, a 22-year-old social media intern, condemning this behaviour went viral. “I’m frustrated that I even have to write this post, but I feel like many women are experiencing the same thing,” Walker wrote in a post that has since received more than 25,000 likes. “LinkedIn is not a dating app — please do not connect or message me on LinkedIn — unless you want to network. I have worked my whole life to be taken seriously as a professional woman. An unwarranted personal… Read more »

having a bad day
having a bad day
8 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

@Sentient

HABD….

Flat heads inbound!!!

lol… yikes!…

i wonder how much hunter is gonna get kicked back (with 10% for the big guy…lol) when he gets signed up next week…lol… slo joe and the ho gotta gets PAID!!!…lol

maybe the ccp can push him as a new action hero over there…lol

Pedoman!!!…

he wears JUST a cape… lol

and his ‘superpower’ is being creepy…

lol…

good luck!

IRL
IRL
8 months ago

@Sentient Type PR or Outside Sales into linkedIn and compare the women’s photos… lol And watch the algo go to work if you click on a hot blonde… and every 40+ career gal’s pic is at least 10 years old. I assume you haven’t seen BeLinked yet? BeLinked is a dating app of ambitious singles based on the LinkedIn network. Date Like a Professional. lol BTW: https://thebolditalic.com/what-happens-if-you-use-linkedin-as-a-dating-site-7d005b3b1b1f You can’t tell how tall a person is from a LinkedIn profile, but (am I right, guys?) ladies need to shut up about their high-heeled height requirements already. There are more important things… Read more »

JIm
JIm
8 months ago

Hi Rollo,
Just some house keeping – a lot of the blog roll on the right side of the page are either gone or stopped. Maybe its not a top priority just letting you know

Oleg Berezhnoy
Oleg Berezhnoy
8 months ago

There’s a one reason that people don’t really want to read non-fiction books these days, in their entirety. The reason that people only want to know the basic gist of it, the main points. That’s especially true for self-help books. The problem with them is that these books usually consist of 2-3 solid points/ideas that can be reduced to several tweet posts on Twitter. And then to get those points across, the writers need to add so much filler, beat around the bush, and dance around these ideas, to actually reach a character count for this effort to be counted… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
8 months ago
Reply to  Oleg Berezhnoy

It’s true that most self-help books are heavily padded. I used to see it all the time at chain bookstores.

However, Rollo’s essays are generally not padded, because he’s got more than one thing to say, and sometimes comes at a topic from multiple perspectives.

Some books are not all that popular because they are challenging to read. People don’t want to do the work.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
8 months ago

@AR

The main challenge is looking at yourself.

urodenitram
8 months ago

Rollo, you really did it with book 4. I’ll confess however, I miss the $10 words. Great work Rollo.

Fact
Fact
8 months ago

Are feminists incapable of forming emotional bonds?

Or are they all greedy cock gobblers with penis breath?

RichardP
RichardP
8 months ago

Two thoughts out of many that come out of Rollo’s post:

“The secret to success in any endeavor (especially writing) is knowing what to leave undone.”
Based on a quote attributed to Oswald Chambers, a Scottish Theologian

“Man ultimately decides for himself. And in the end, education must be education toward the ability to decide.” (Viktor Frankl)

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
8 months ago

Yearly American religious experience called “super bowl” is now done. Adverts not particularly clever. Halftime reminded me of some bad SF movie from the 70’s, or a NPC gif.

Brady took the younger men to school.
Gronk looks like hall of fame material for sure.

Pessimist Incel
Pessimist Incel
8 months ago

I have not yet read Rollo’s books so I don’t know whether Rollo has dealt with the the rigid mentality present in some rural parts of India like below

The guy here shows how some MEN in particular have problems with inter-caste marriages and inter-religious marriages. Is there any way to justify this behavior in a red-pill lens using knowledge from evolutionary psychology and more importantly, should we be able to justify that?
Should we be sympathetic to this view from Trad-con people or nah?
Looking forward to your comments, gentlemen.

Sentient
Sentient
8 months ago

Read the books.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
8 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

🙄

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
8 months ago

Rollo, typo error:

Even learned professors with lots of letters in their degree’s titles who find a new popularity in the Hustle Economy really have a grasp of how to write well.

Something’s missing, like “to” or “have to” as in “really have to have a grasp of how to write…”
Trivial but there it is.

Apollo
Apollo
7 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Holy hypergamy

IRL
IRL
8 months ago

@Rollo You may be missing out on some good Sex Week sessionzzzz lolzzzz: https://www.sexweekatosu.org/2021-sex-week-events Dating 101: Finding the Perfect Partner That’s Toxic: A Talk on Healthy vs Toxic Masculinity Kiss Me Thru The Phone: Cybersex during COVID-19 Beyond the Gender Binary with Alok The Policy on Our Bodies: A Panel on Current Legislation They Work Hard For the Money: Sex Work with Dr. Teela Sanders Holy Sexuality: Envisioning Inclusive Sex Ed in Faith Settings So You’re Thinking of Law School? = social justice-oriented lawyering work Abortions Explained Plainly: A Panel of Professionals Life’s a Drag: A Conversation with the Drag… Read more »

Playdontpay
Playdontpay
8 months ago

Fuck me this blog is dead 😬 great body of work from the past but sadly killed by the authors preoccupation with religion a topic that most alpha males couldn’t give a fuck about because they believe that they control their own destiny and don’t need an imaginary friend for adults

Playdontpay
Playdontpay
8 months ago
Reply to  Rollo Tomassi

Rollo this article has been up over a month and has 42 comments including yours telling me to read the book. Not so long ago 600 plus comments within days of a new essay was the norm. I’m forever in your debt for the RP knowledge I’ve gained from this site over the years it’s changed my mindset and outlook enormously and my life is so much better than it otherwise may have been because of that. Thanks However I have no interest in reading the latest book because I don’t have to “square away” my red pill knowledge and… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
8 months ago

OT
Alexa 3rd party skills can be rather trojan-like.

https://thehackernews.com/2021/02/alert-malicious-amazon-alexa-skills-can.html

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
8 months ago

More on topic: 35 year old Georgia life-coach was supposed to get married on Halloween 2020 but her fiancee’ backed out.

So..what to do? Marry herself!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9290565/Woman-35-goes-ahead-dream-wedding-marrying-symbol-self-love.html

jussieu7
jussieu7
8 months ago

Rollo, thank you – your work is important. Two years ago I discovered your first book exactly when I needed it; I internalized every word and my life became incredible ever since. Today my friend killed himself after another girlfriend left him. He knew Game and RSD, but was still blue-pill and hadn’t heard of The Rational Male when I brought it up. Maybe reading your books could have made a difference for him. I hope more guys can unplug before its too late.

theasdgamer
7 months ago
Reply to  jussieu7

There is “game” and then there is Game. “game” is when you can manipulate girls to get sex. Game is when you can read people so that you understand everyone’s tactics and strategy. With Game, you understand girls’ sexual wiring and can predict their tactics and strategy, among many other things. Think “The 48 Laws of Power” by Greene to understand Game. There’s more than Game to wisdom, including an understanding of biology and the need that you have to reproduce and why that’s a good thing. I fakked up and only have one grandchild and now all my eggs… Read more »

Rio
Rio
7 months ago
Reply to  theasdgamer

Since I have a child I feel somewhat qualified to comment – but the idea that you “own” your own children (or at least the dream or idea of being able to do this) is a fallacy. It’s bandied about a bit in PUA circles that the reason for patriarchal society is so that men can know who their children are – to make sure that they are theirs. However, this is just mental masturbation IMHO. My child, just like the children of my friends – have turned out to be nothing like their parents. They might resemble them a… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 months ago
Reply to  Rio

The idea that you are simply an individual is a fallacy. Life is not a “thing,” it’s a process. You are just an instantiation of that process, the current end point on a creeping line. That line is the life, not you. You are just the current trustee of that life. You don’t “own” your children, they are you. That is to say part of the same life that you are a part of, cells of the true organism. Dying as an individual doesn’t mean anything. Dying without reproducing, keeping the line moving as is your responsibility as trustee of… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
7 months ago
Reply to  theasdgamer

You have two daughters, you may yet have another grandkid.

Nate
Nate
7 months ago

This comment got me banned on askmrp. But I stand by it. RP is a “How to Become What Women Want” program based on the counterintuitive premise that what women want is for men to not care about what woman want. To become what women want you have to stop caring about what women SAY they want and start being what they REALLY want. RP claims to posses the knowledge of what women REALLY want. It promises to reveal how men can become that. Hence, RP is about becoming a man that is more pleasing to women. RP is not… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 months ago

” . . . the motive to be alpha is to be more attractive to women.”

Women will say they put on makeup to be attractive. If a man tells them that they are more attractive without the makeup, they will say that they aren’t doing it for him.

Of course “attraction” is all about attracting the opposite sex.

But if you point this out the women will scream, “The Patriarchy makes me do it!”

Oy.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
7 months ago

@NATE

“Yet the motive to be alpha is to be more attractive to women.”

Nope.

You couldn’t be much more wrong on just about every point.

Sentient
Sentient
7 months ago

alpha is about acting out self interest.

There you go. You can dispense with the rest. The motive for acting out of self interest is self interest, freedom.

An effect of Alpha is attraction from women (and men lol)…

The red pill is merely seeing the world as it is, not how you want it to be or wish it was or so.eone else tells you it is.

TLDR – everything you are thinking is wrong.

Nate
Nate
7 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

Everyone is Alpha! Every action every person has ever taken and will ever take is bound to their own self-interest. No one can act against themselves willfully. Sure we make choices that turn out to yield undesirable outcomes. When we act, it’s a tangible revelation of an inward decision to forgo all other possibilities for acting. So what we actually do is based on an internal choice. We choose the option that we believe will serve our interest. It’s important to note that forgoing to act is just as much an action in a binary (yes/no) sense. A choice is… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 months ago
Reply to  Nate

Are you, by any chance, an engineer or computer programmer?

Nate
Nate
7 months ago
Reply to  kfg

Men who want to have more sex will act in a way they believe will yield more sex. They will act in their own self interest. Betas and alphas are alike in that regard. The difference is not that one group of men acts on self interest and the other does not. A beta who believes that acting passive and catering to women will get him laid is doing so out of self interest just as much as an alpha who implements red pill strategies. The study of human action, aka praxeology, is an interesting study. In fact, in its… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 months ago
Reply to  Nate

Just remember at your next stop to note that here it was you who got bent out of shape and self banned.

We have no problem engaging with you and I look forward to your return.

stuffinbox
7 months ago
Reply to  Nate

Tap it light.

PalmaSailor
PalmaSailor
7 months ago

@NATE

Men who want to have more sex

What about men who are getting more sex than they can actually handle?

Is that even conceivable to you?

theasdgamer
7 months ago

Everyone is an Alpha

True.

theasdgamer
7 months ago
Reply to  theasdgamer

bs

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 months ago

I haven’t checked Rollo’s Twatter feed for a while. Just did that.

Rollo “Morningstar” Tomassi.

Heh.

Sentient
Sentient
7 months ago

Here you go Rollo
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7 months ago

Rollo i have read all your 4 books theye were eye opening im doing my best to practice the truth. Thank you brother if it was not you it would rally be hard to find the true natures of humans . Thank you from the bottom of my heart really man for putting this work for men youre saving lives thanks alot. One of your prodcust i was watchibg you mensioned that you will do books recomendation can you please do your favorite books so that we can also bemefit from the . Thank you again

kfg
kfg
7 months ago

Re Rollo’s Twitter thread:

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Lucifer MorningStar
7 months ago

Rollo, Sir, I am a nineteen year old guy from south Asia. These matrix things prevalent in western society that you talk about are catching up in east too. I just had been dumped by my first teenage girlfriend of 1 year when I found this blog few months back. I never had a father figure and I would really like some advice on few problems. Please tell me how I can contact with you personally.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 months ago

What does a solid frame look like? A really, space-grade solid frame?

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-03-23/apollo-13-hero-glynn-lunney-defined-grace-under-pressure

WALAWALA
WALAWALA
7 months ago

@AR

I know something better.

Sentient
Sentient
7 months ago
Reply to  WALAWALA

Good seeing you around Wala. Just posted you CH post on “…” over at PA’s

Lucifer
Lucifer
7 months ago

Rollo, Sir, I am a nineteen year old guy from south Asia. This matrix prevalent in western society that you talk about are catching up in east as well. I just had been dumped by my first teenage girlfriend of 1 year when I found this blog few months back. I never had a father figure and I would really like some advice on few problems. Please tell me how I can contact with you personally.

I would really like to talk to anyone who has swallowed this “red pill”. Need some help.

Vega
Vega
6 months ago

Quick background, I recently got out of prison 7 months and and and I started to hook up/date this girl I met at work.  We were pretty much were progressing into a couple but she chose this other guy. Im an escort and have slept with many beautiful woman; I’m good in bed, not bragging. I have a dominant frame but I’ve never been in this situation before so I hope you guys can shed some perspective and wisdom. So I met this girl at work, she came on to me( she’s a 6 at best, 7 with personality).  I… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
6 months ago

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Probably not the best spokesman for the message… bless his heart

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pastor-stewart-allen-clark-on-leave-sermon-wives/#app

Take comfort fellow travelers, he is on leave and seeking professional counseling.

Some TRM inbound? Can I get an Amen?

Sentient
Sentient
6 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

“General Baptists believe that every woman was created in the image of God, and they should be valued for that reason,” the statement said.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
6 months ago
Reply to  Sentient

I ran that man’s sermon past some of the Christian manosphere, basically “Everything he says is correct, could say it differently, needs to lose his own belly first. But of course manospherians would say that.

“On leave … professional counseling”.

Oh, boy. “There are four lights!”, sure, yeah, whatever.

“General Baptists believe that every woman was created in the image of God, and they should be valued for that reason,” the statement said.

Yeah, that “image of God” gets into deeper waters. Basically there’s a little Cafeteria pick-and-choose stuff going on.

Sentient
Sentient
6 months ago

Speaking of TRM. Rollo should have a button to send TRM anonymously to someone who might need it.

Enter their email, click the button and a tight two paragraph intro with links is heading downrange

Face
Face
6 months ago

I would be interested in no bullshit critique of rich cooper’s book The Unplugged Alpha.

What’s the good, bad, and ugly there?

Peter Pan
Peter Pan
5 months ago

Lucifer,
You wrote “Please tell me how I can contact with you personally” and “I would really like to talk… Need some help…”
I think nobody here is really available for one-on-one consultations… but if you post some details about your specific problem, you may well get valuable feedback.

Epithet
Epithet
3 months ago

I was raised in a Catholic household, taught “One must be virginal until one man and one woman get married forever and ever. The end.” It was discouraging, because I could sense that I was adrift in today’s sexual marketplace. I don’t blame my parents by the way, my male siblings are all married to beautiful women. However I am not the only (fmr)Catholic man who has been lead astray by the lack of realistic guidance about sexual dynamics. The only relationships I’ve had were with two women who literally threw themselves into my arms. In other words, mostly celibate.… Read more »

Chris Hatcher
Chris Hatcher
3 months ago

As someone who is visually impaired and relies heavily on audio, I’m wondering when the audible version of religion is going to be released. It’s July 1st for crying out loud

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