Little Big Head

One of the dichotomies I consistently see in the manosphere is the differences in how men approach the importance (or feigned unimportance) of sex. I got a bit sidetracked in last week’s essay. I was planing on writing about this phenomenon when I saw the need to explore how it impacted a larger social narrative. So, let’s consider this essay an addendum to The New Polyandry.

How men publicly and privately prioritize sex is always something that leads to a judgement call about that particular man, how he lives his life, and what it says about his integrity. If you openly make sex a “big deal” in your life, or you acknowledge its importance in intersexual relationships, you open yourself up to men’s Beta Game virtue signaling. The presumption is that if you were a real Alpha sex is just something you should have mastery over. If sex is at all important to a man, and he expresses this, that guy runs the risk of being seen as “obsessed with sex“, a “pussy beggar” or in someway less of a man for allowing sex to control his decisions.

Why is this the perception?

Two weeks ago I had a lively debate with the producer of Pat Campbell’s morning show. While we did have other topics to hit on that morning, she and I dug in and talked about how “sex is the glue that holds relationships together.” You can listen to the full segment here if you like.

As I mentioned last week, the notion that men need sex is nothing I haven’t covered in the past. In You Need Sex I made a case for the importance of sex and how it was, until recently, something that constituted part of a man’s life experience. Now it seems that being a sexless virgin at age 40 should be considered an accomplishment by certain factions in the manosphere: 

One very common dismissal of Red Pill awareness I read from Blue Pill men is this feigned, blasé indifference to sex.

For the most part this false-indifference is really a conditioned, response couched in Beta Game. The idea is for the Blue Pill guy to promote the public perception that he’s above his sexual impulses in the hopes that any girl within earshot (or reading his comments online) will recognize his uniqueness in not letting his cock do his thinking for him. From a male deductive logic standpoint it makes sense to the feminized male – women have all told him how off-put they are with guys who only think about sex, so he’ll identify with the women he’d like to get with and “not be like other guys.”

“All that Red Pill, PUA shit is for guy’s who obsess over sex. They only go to the lengths they do to get laid and never see the bigger picture. You don’t need sex you know? You wont die from not getting laid.”

[…]Thats the Beta Game behind the “you don’t need sex” Buffer, but there’s more to this rationale than that. Technically the Beta reasoning is correct; physically, you’re not going to die if you don’t get laid. You could probably masturbate to relieve yourself or live a sexless existence due to a physical disability and live a productive life as satisfying as you can manage it. If you don’t know what you’re missing or if a sexual substitute does the job, what’s the difference, right? The line of reasoning is that if it isn’t food, water or oxygen it isn’t really a necessity for existence.

You’re All Obsessed!

Self-righteous Blue Pill men always look to make their necessities into virtues. It also helps the men who fall on the 80% side of the Hypergamous Pareto curve to convince themselves and others that their sexual strategy – one that follows enforced monogamy – is the moral one; or the logical, common sense one absent the moral context. If you cannot get laid yourself, at least you can make getting laid into an ‘obsession‘ for the 20% of men who can. By doing so you encourage the 20% of men, who women desire to fuck, to police themselves and women by adopting your own, self-superior, one-woman-per-man sexual strategy.

Pretty much every MRA I’ve listened to, most Traditional Conservatives and a few MGTOWs, like to qualify men who can get laid as being in some way obsessed with getting laid. We’re told how morally superior they themselves are for essentially thinking with the big head instead of the little one, thus confirming their own part in a monogamous sexual strategy. As I mentioned in the last essay, a majority of men tend to fall on one side of the Strategic Pluralism Theory with respect to their sexual strategy.

Low SMV (sexual market value) men are basically forced to invest in one woman at a time if they are to successfully reproduce. This is the basis of a socio-sexual order founded on enforced monogamy. The larger pool of men benefit reproductively if the majority of men can be relied upon to follow the dictates of socially accepted, socially enforced, form of monogamy.

In the past this emphasis also had a culling effect on the worst aspects of women’s Hypergamous tendencies. If all men – including the 20% who could enjoy many women – agreed to play by the old social contract and adopted monogamy as their sexual strategy (in spite of being able to reproduce outside it) then more men would have the opportunity to reproduce. Furthermore, women’s Hypergamy would also be forced to accept lower SMV men’s monogamous strategy as a buffer to worst aspects of their own.

In the past, religious and social mores used to act as a buffer against Hypergamy, but the compromise for women was that they could expect to have the Beta Bucks provisioning aspects of their Hypergamy more or less provided for by the majority of men who adopted this strategy. In an evolutionary sense, protection and provisioning are already an integral part of the male mental firmware. But all of that went out the window after the Sexual Revolution, unilaterally female-controlled hormonal birth control and the socio-sexual/socioeconomic landscape that sprang from the Fempowerment narrative.

Today there is a radical imbalance between the old social contract upon which enforced monogamy was a key element and the new social contract dictated by a gynocratic social order that places women’s sexual strategy well above that of men’s. So it’s small wonder that men would revert back to 80% of low SMV men insisting on, and shaming, the 20% of high SMV men comply with a sexual strategy that women readily confirm isn’t in their best interests. 

On the male side of the strategic equation a majority of low SMV men cannot afford to have Alpha men playing by the rules of polygyny.

That polygyny is really a form of female-directed polyandry (see last week’s essay), but to the 20% of men who enjoy the benefits of falling on the enthusiastic consent side of Hypergamy it just makes sense to go with it. As such, low SMV men are compelled to find ways of discouraging these Alphas from following their r selected sexual strategy. They realize women will want, and pursue, Alphas. And in a polyandrous socio-sexual order based on the Alpha Fucks side of Hypergamy low SMV men drew the shortest straw.

Intrasexual Combat

When Beta men shame women for wanting to fuck Alpha men it has the effect of making those Beta men seem more insecure. In a feminine-primary social order one of the highest crimes is to attempt to challenge Hypergamy in any way. Even in a religious context, to challenge Hypergamy is to be guilty of repressing women’s sexuality. Today, just this impression is conflated with ‘toxic’ masculinity.

In truth, it would never occur to most low SMV men to shame women for their sexual strategy because they know that in doing so they reduce their own chances of reproduction. Women simply deem them ‘losers’ in the SMP (sexual marketplace). They become scolds, or worse, they become men who are “insecure in their masculinity” because they confirm their low SMV status in doing so. In today’s socio-sexual environment men policing women’s Hypergamy is a lost cause.

The solution then becomes an effort to disqualify the Alpha men they compete with by changing the rules that “real men” are supposed to play by. If you can’t win the Game, change the rules to better fit your strengths.

The ‘Real Man®‘ becomes the guy who exclusively invests himself in one ‘Quality Woman‘ – just like they do.

The apex of masculinity becomes whatever definition best aligns with what they believe they represent.

The’Real Man®‘ is the guy who best fulfills a woman’s, often duplicitous, sexual/life strategy by adopting the K mating strategy of socially/religiously enforced monogamy – just like they do. Oh, and the Quality Woman becomes whatever woman whose necessity compels her to agree with and adopt that strategy (Epiphany Phase).

The Real Man®‘ is the guy who plays by the old social contract rules of enforced monogamy, so more Betas might have a better shot at reproduction. True ‘Manhood‘ becomes a title Betas now feel qualified to bestow on other men; just as women also do with men who help complete their Hypergamous life-strategies. 

Trads vs. The Playboy Lifestyle

In order for Beta men to effect this reigning in of the Alpha men women want to tame and breed with, the high SMV man must be demonized and disqualified from the SMP for following his sexual/biological imperatives. The most common way to do this is by conflating his strategy with a degenerate hedonism. he must be made to seem as if he’s not in control of his sexual nature. So the effort becomes one of building an archetype around the ‘Playah‘ – A man who would be a bad long term bet for women’s Hypergamy because he lacks self-control. For this straw man character his little head does the thinking for the big head making him unreliable as a prospect for parental investment.

If enforced monogamy defines the accepted SMP, and women are presumed to be coequal, co-rational participants in it the ‘Playah’ needs to be cast as the outsider. The latent message is the same intrasexual combat method women use with ‘slut shaming‘; the ‘Playah‘ is a bad bet for long term security even if he is the guy women want to fuck.

However, that Playboy is a cruel reminder to low SMV men that they’ll never be able to fully exercise their own masculine imperative – unlimited access to unlimited sexuality. The closest the majority of men will ever get to this is online porn; which of course is why it’s so popular. There is a reason why 68% of Christian men watch porn. They understand that it’s the only viable substitute for their sexual imperative that they’re likely to experience in this lifetime.

While MRAs and MGTOW tend to reserve a special hate for ‘Playahs‘, it’s the Trad-Con mindset that is the most vocal against the Playboy lifestyle. There’s an overarching need amongst Trads to confirm their ego-investment in locking themselves into  enforced monogamy. 

There’s two complications to this:

First, Trad men (and women) tend to superimpose their religious and social belief set on their own sexual strategy. It’s a sin if they don’t accept monogamy as the standard. Today, this belief is a vestige of the old buffers that used to guard against either sex getting too far into their primal sexual impulses and strategies. It’s much easier to impose your sexual strategy on other men, effectively policing their strategy, if it’s ‘God’s Will’ that everyone behave according to that old social contract. I should add that this is the primary reason most Trad men suffer the worst from having their belief in the old set of books destroyed by Red Pill truths. It is galling for men who’ve invested their whole lives in the old social contract to have it vividly disproved by ‘Playahs’ (and women’s behaviors that confirm it) who understand the new social contract well enough to make it work for them.

Second, there’s the self-fulfilling idea that a man who opts for the traditional monogamous lifestyle is in some way more progressive or evolved, or life-satisfied than the ‘Playah‘ with the option to enjoy his non-exclusive sexual strategy. These are the guys who play up the ‘sour grapes’ Law of Power:

Law 36 – Disdain the things you cannot have

If there is something you want but cannot have, show contempt for it. The less interest you reveal, the more superior you seem.

MRAs and Trads alike don’t like being reminded that sex has always been an integral part of a healthy life experience for the majority of men who’ve ever lived on this planet. However, to them, sex is almost always a reward for desired behavior that they believe women expect of them. For most of them sex is always transactional so they never live out any frame of reference of having sex with a woman in a validational sense. It’s likely that they will never experience sex in any other context than the transactional. This is simply one of the visceral realities of a Darwinian sexual marketplace. As such, this pretext colors all of their understanding about what is, or should be accepted as, a legitimate sexual strategy – which unsurprisingly is his enforced monogamy strategy.

“Meaningful” Sex

The low SMV majority have many contrivances to corral uncooperative Alphas to adopt their sexual strategy. However, there’s also an involved necessity to convince themselves that their Blue Pill conditioning is the best sexual strategy that would benefit everyone if we’d all just see the validity of it as they do. To effect this they apply a subjective “meaningfulness” to their enforced monogamy (K selection) and “meaninglessness” to pursuing men’s biological imperatives (r selection) or the Alpha sexual strategy.

As a result, low SMV men tend to deemphasize the importance of sex in life. I asked this in the introduction; why is there a perception that a man who enjoys many women is somehow having sex that is less ‘meaningful’ than a man whose sex live is dependent on his relationship with one woman – or, a man who is ostensibly celibate?

The tactic involved here is the control over what constitutes meaning in sex. Low SMV men need this control to direct a meta-Frame that foments their sexual strategy; sex is only valid if it’s ‘meaningful’ in a way that aligns with an enforced monogamy sexual strategy. Thus, they can disqualify high-SMV men by delegitimizing his sexual experience. The higher the notch count, the less meaningful the sexual experience – and the likelier he can be seeen as “obsessed‘ with (meaningless) sex.

“Meaning” is deliberately ambiguous to better salve the egos of low SMV men, but meaning only aligns with what better promotes the enforced monogamy strategy. This strategy conflict actually serves Hypergamy in the long run as well. Women will endorse the importance of meaningful sex since it helps to convince the r selected Alphas that they should (eventually) shift to K selected commitment and parental investment with them. To the Beta moralist, any sex that doesn’t implicitly lead to marriage, children and the formation of families it’s always ‘meaningless’.

For the less moralistic low SMV man the idea that sex is something easily had, something inherently cheap, serves in devaluing Alpha men’s sexual experience. A popular idea among MRAs is that meaningless sex is something any guy can realistically achieve in a random club on a Friday night. This also serves to debase the value of learning Game; something MRAs never seem to have any facility with. By unrealistically cheapening the process of Game the same ‘meaninglessness’ imperative is created.

If any guy can find a worthless club slut with minimal effort then the low SMV man can raise his value by appearing to have higher standards than to lower himself to doing so. See how that works? This is a variation of the ‘sour grapes’ strategy I mentioned earlier. The Alpha who can easily get women becomes common. And by enjoying what Beta men believe should be a common sexual experience that man is reducing himself to his baser instincts. They say he’s “obsessed with pussy” or a “pussy beggar” because he’s applied himself to learning, in the most marginal way, how to have sex on his terms. And if he plays by a rule set that doesn’t align with the “correct” rules all his efforts become “meaningless”.

I should add here that MRAs and some Trad-Con men also like to foment the idea that because they eschew all that easily-had “meaningless” sex that Alpha men and Low Quality women are engaging it frees him up to pursue more esoteric, philosophical and creatively productive pursuits. Again, this helps to boost their esteem while presenting the appearance of uniqueness in spite of the fact that few of them ever have anything concrete to show for it. Along these lines they also love to imply that famous celibate men of antiquity were somehow more accomplished because they had the forbearance of mind to understand sex was a hindrance. When no one believes you aren’t making your necessity a virtue it’s sometimes necessary to paint men more famous than you with the same false-virtues.

The common refrain is that they’ve reached some Nirvana state of higher purpose or that they’ve evolved above the common need for sex. They shame the Alpha’s intelligence by claiming they allow their sexual nature to dictate to their rational nature. This too is a sexual quality signaling (or they believe it should be). They hope that their coequal, co-rational, Quality women will respond to it because they presume they’re using the same enforced monogamy rule book. Most Beta moralists are egalitarian blank-slate equalists. If they are evolved above their sexuality, then evolved, rational women should be too – but only if they are quality.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Sentient
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Can we speed up the True Scotsman stuff and fast forward to the Killing In The Name Of?

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@Sentient

“Can we speed up the True Scotsman stuff and fast forward to the Killing In The Name Of?”

Evidently not. First you must learn when the fallacy applies. I didn’t say that no Christians masturbate so excluding protestants etc doesn’t protect a universal generalisation.

Therefore no fallacy

boulderhead
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@Estudio

“I was referring to the protestants and other such disqualifications”

They never watch porn not even on friday so you can take them out of the equation,unless of course they don’t and say they did just to fit in like in rome do as the romans do.

Catholics admit to everything but only in booths, but don’t fuck with the KKK they are the buryin baptists.

Student
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@boulderhead

Well I do find them more intellectually plausible than these psychological studies.

Do you know how many of these have been conducted. All with different results.

Apparently all men watch porn without exception not just christians:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/6709646/All-men-watch-porn-scientists-find.html

kfg
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kfg

“The study found that men watched pornography that matched their own image of sexuality, and quickly discarded material they found offensive or distasteful.”

Your tax dollars at work.

boulderhead
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@Estudio

“I was referring to the protestants and other such disqualifications”

Thou dost protestant to muchly!

Student
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Student

@kfg

Perhaps you prefer to experiment

Student
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Student

@boulderhead

christus imperat

No protesting

kfg
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kfg

“No protesting”

Become fishers of men. Christus imperat.

theasdgamer
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Don’t Mennonites reject military service?

I guess. He comes from a Mennonite family even though he is Baptist. He worked for a civilian company that operated charters for the military, so he wasn’t in the military. I haven’t heard him say anything pacifist.

theasdgamer
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As for myself brother I’m Christian and have never told a lie or masturbated.

Lol

Incubus_Rising
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Incubus_Rising

@ex cartoonist: Just read Rollo’s essays here. The comments section has become a cesspool.

Sooner or later you will figure out what to do with this information.

The pareto principle applies to Rollo’s readership too. 20 percent will go PUA and 80 percent will go MGTOW.

Blaximus
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Blaximus

Cesspool?

80% mgtow?

20% pua?

Egads!!!!!!!!!!!

😂😂😂😂

Blaximus
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Blaximus

I figured out 40 years ago that Jesus himself would recognize what ” Christians ” do in his name, while professing to accept/see him as their savior. Religion is pretty fucked up, but folks need ….things. And they need to assemble in buildings….with suits….And come together….And judge. People tend to ruin shit when everybody latches on and makes a routine out of it. I’ve met very few people that match up with What I’ve read in the new testament. Maybe it’s reading comprehension, or maybe it’s the messengers in the church. But imo, there’s a giant canyon between religion and… Read more »

theasdgamer
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The boys have been seriously damaged, Blax.

theasdgamer
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That’s some serious virtue signaling there, Blax.

Blaximus
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Blaximus

I don’t know about this ” virtue signalling ” shit.😂 I’m strictly stating my point of view as I like to do whenever confronted with the ” I’m a Christian ” bullshit.

So.what?

I’m a Leo.

Fred Flange, GBFC (Great Books For Cucks)
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Fred Flange, GBFC (Great Books For Cucks)

“Women want to stop having to fuck Betas”. And bit by bit the evidence accumulates to support this proposition: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/young-women-are-talking-about-consent-social-venues-are-following-n950186 Alphas – and those who profess and call themselves Alphas (in training at the very least) – will be able to learn to work around this. The other poor saps, those locked into the #yesyoutoo paradigm, meaning your collegiate and workplace sons — won’t be allowed to. For our newbie Students hung up on debating the morality that ought to govern men’s behavior in the SMP I will again Gregorian Chant the mantra you should love cherish and obey, courtesy… Read more »

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@ex cartoonist
Wouldn’t drawing be a handy way to meet people, start a conversation, make yourself intriguing and approachable?

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@Fred I don’t think this will do women any good on the long run. We’re already at a stage where most women younger than 30 will have to work all their lives. It’s an obligation now and not an option. They didn’t bank on that. The focus here is always the younger women with all the options, but a lot of yoga studios are full of frustrated women who can’t get a man. More and more shaming and deriding of all men just pisses all men off including the ones that do have options with women. I’m away skiing with… Read more »

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“I haven’t held doors for most of them For a long time now.” I have this move I like to do every so often, where whenever were walking together, approaching a door, I let them walk a few steps in front of me. And as they’re about to get the door, I rush up “wait!” to get in front of her and open the door myself. Then motion like I’m about to hold the door for them to go in, by bowing my head and saying “after…” Then quickly, before they have a chance to go in, I say “me”,… Read more »

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A while ago I was talking to a colleague at work and we got to discussing politics. He is originally from Eritrea. We spoke at length about the situation in his homeland and infrequently touched upon UK politics. He’s interested in both, but obviously has more to say about Eritrea. Eritrea’s president Isaias Afwerki was a military commander who fought a thirty year war with Ethiopia for independence. Eritrea has a population of roughly 5 million. Whereas Ethiopia has a population in excess of 80 million. Afwerki had to overcome overwhelming odds to secure victory. Which he did in the… Read more »

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@ O.B.I.T. “Wouldn’t drawing be a handy way to meet people, start a conversation, make yourself intriguing and approachable?” Funny you should say that. I used to draw caricatures for a living and that’s how I met the woman I married and had a child with. Though she wasn’t attracted by my artistic skill; in my experience, artistic talent impresses but doesn’t arouse. No, she was attracted to the way I handled myself. When you draw someone’s caricature with a crowd watching, the burden of performance is intense and very public. I used a thick black pen on white paper,… Read more »

victorpinag
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victorpinag

Let everything burns…

Sentient
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Cartoonist “When you draw someone’s caricature with a crowd watching, the burden of performance is intense and very public. I used a thick black pen on white paper, so there’s no room for mistakes. You draw a huge nose, you hear the crowd laugh and the person being drawn gets uncomfortable. You have to manage this, keep the subject sitting still, work fast, maintain the frame, yet still give people the feeling that you’re friendly and approachable. You deal with people interrupting you, trying to barter you down, letting their kids mess with your stuff. Under these conditions, you develop… Read more »

palmasailor
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“wanting to buy me a drink (and usually more!).”

Pfffftttt

Eye roll

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@Rollo – Hmmm. I have a comment in mod I think, due to two links. But I think you’ve blocked some posts from me in the past few months, not sure as I flit in and out as I do. If there is some rule I’m breaking, I’d like to know what it is. If I’m in error somehow, maybe there was a glitch or something? Any-who, knowing what the rules are if I’m breaking them would be helpful. Not a complaint, mind you. Unlike many of my supposed fellow lovers of liberty, I’m clear this is your site and… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

“If I’m in error somehow, maybe there was a glitch or something?”

It’s been happening to everybody as Rollo changes the layout and wars with the bots. If you’re going to write something long use ye olde write it in a text editor, cut and paste trick.

ex-cartoonist
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@ palmasailor

Yeah, you’re right. Re-reading that sentence, it does come over like bad romantic fiction. I get now why commenters use phrases like ‘she was giving me IOIs.’ Will remember it for next time.

palmasailor
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@cartooninst

It comes over like you’re swimming in opportunity that your dropping hand over fist because your head is in the wrong place

boulderhead
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@Cartoon existence

Sounds as if now you are ready to accept responsibility for your predicament and join the world of the living. My best thinking got me here.

Welcome back.

Figure out what’s causing that and quit doing it.

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@Wheelie – Wow, you are making rapid progress, just on this thread. I am a musician and writer and performing is such an interesting act, it can teach you so much about who you are and how others are, and how behavior works in social settings… You admit what I call “the now so good news” in your last comment. You don’t give a shit about other people, in the real sense, in that you are would actually listen to them for a while. This lack of interest may just be a pose, though, perhaps a defensive buffer to protect… Read more »

Rad
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Rad

I wish you hadn’t done that podcast man. It was all futile trying to convince a blue pill guy and a totally clueless woman on the radio. Fuck that shit.

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@ex-cartoonist

“Artistic talent impresses but doesn’t arouse. No, she was attracted to the way I handled myself.”

Pree-cisely. Glad to be of service. I love assignments where people practically write their own story without my having to lift a finger.

“I wonder sometimes why I can’t apply the same methodology to my dating.”
So Sentient says “You can. Have you read Mystery Method?”

Sentient, could you supply in your own words a quick teaser on this? Like those great old 1-minute 5-0 trailers where Jack Lord urges us to “Be There …. Aloha”

kfg
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kfg

“Under these conditions, you develop ‘amused mastery’ pretty much automatically.”

What O.B.I.T. said. Read what you wrote. You developed. Which not only means you have to develop, but that you have already proven that you can.

Adrian
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Adrian

No. Thinking with your big head just means that you act based on your best interest regardless of the female and/or male imperatives. Easier said than done but this is what it means. It’s not about getting laid or improving your SMV in shady ways.

Glaister Prince
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Glaister Prince

Great post. I am a 57 year married male who just found your information and I find your writing inspiring. You write what I have been thinking for the last 30 years.
Thanks, looking forward to continue reading your blogs and going through the old ones.

Jellyrancha

rugby11
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theasdgamer
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Cartoon, you are an artistic performer and entertainer, not merely an artist.

Rudd
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Rudd

Im curious what percentage of posters here are Alpha and what percentage is Beta ? Probably 80% Beta, as per the Pareto principle.

Your guess ?

rugby11
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Fred Flange, GBFC (Great Books For Cucks)
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Fred Flange, GBFC (Great Books For Cucks)

So the Chinese party leaders now want their people to generate lots more sprogs after thirty years telling them they shouldn’t.

Seems this policy switch will work out as well as Denmark’s “please fuck and give us more babies please please” advert campaign. (Hint: not so good).

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/beijing-eyes-two-child-policy-u-turn-lonely-generation-has-n949291

Second Thoughts of Xi.

Good joke.

Everybody laugh.

Curtain.

Centuries
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Centuries

hmmm…state mandated birth policies, birth control pills, legal abortions, etc. etc., what could possibly go wrong…

The unanticipated consequences of social action, of latent functions vs. manifest functions, and, as previously mentioned, of dysfunctions. Merton
https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/UnintendedConsequences.html

Of course the propositions to make social security benefits to be dependent on whether one produces a child certainly won’t have any unintended consequences…..
https://reason.com/blog/2018/12/21/us-baby-bust-fears

guri396
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guri396

In ancient times alpha males (kings ,emperors) had more than 10 wives almost 8 out of 10 times , while at the same time lower class beta males works as slaves for nothing , and poor alpha males steal women from other men or tribes .

This is true in present world as well where rich men are called as alpha (except some occasions) ,and who preferred monogamy over short term relationship are called as beta , whereas poor alpha males are called as players .

Am i right ? Just my basic idea of men hierarchy.

Palmasailor
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Field report which is sort of on topic with men needing sex Because I don’t like the mental point of origin that I ‘need’ anything they’ve got I’ve re programmed myself that I don’t, nevertheless life is better if you’re getting laid. It makes an instant difference in a mans outlook and I’ve never seen it so clearly as I have in the past few days. I’m away skiing over Xmas with my old friend (we’re both divorced and both of us refuse exclusive relationships. He is red pill but doesn’t know it). his 16 (nearly 17) year old son… Read more »

Student
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@guri396 “In ancient times alpha males (kings ,emperors) had more than 10 wives almost 8 out of 10 times , while at the same time lower class beta males works as slaves for nothing , and poor alpha males steal women from other men or tribes . This is true in present world as well where rich men are called as alpha (except some occasions) ,and who preferred monogamy over short term relationship are called as beta , whereas poor alpha males are called as players . Am i right ? Just my basic idea of men hierarchy“ People here… Read more »

ollieoxenfree1
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@Palmasailor

You can be proud of yourself. You did right by that young man.

I hope you enjoy the rest of the festive holiday and the coming new year.

guri396
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guri396

First of all I did not said anything about allies and stuff like that . I made that point from women’s (polygamy vs monogamy) prespective only. To cover your point the king will definetly use those beta males to eliminate competition but after sometime one of them (beta males) will reach to top level of hierarchy (For example head of army etc. ) . At that stage he will challenge the king and may be kill the king ,and became the new aplha(king).That also happened many times in history. My point is that it does not matter The king allies… Read more »

palmasailor
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palmasailor

@ollieoxenfree1

Thank you

You too

Student
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Student

@guri396

“while at the same time lower class beta males works as slaves for nothing”

Alpha – 1st place – king

Beta – 2nd place – aristocracy – not slave

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@ Rudd – What pct of alphas give a shit about the distribution of alpha vs betas among the crowd here? What pct of betas care? Be the guy who doesn’t give a shit, there’s a hint… Re: “Alpha” – I’ve laid this out from time to time but it never really seems to take here. What does the term “alpha” even mean? Simple, it’s a term from the study of dominance hierarchies and it’s the basically the name for one who gets submitted to and leads in social groupings. It’s a term taken from the study of social behavior… Read more »

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@scribblerg

It is implicit in your comment. High value people add value to the group. A large part of moving up in the higherarchy is cultivating the things that you have which add value to the group. This is the healthy method of progression.

It gets complex when applying this to sexual dynamics though.

JohnD
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JohnD

Betas will shame alphas by saying the sex with some girl from the bar on a Saturday night is “meaningless” and not like the “meaningful” sex that they have in their monogamous relationship. The irony, however, is that it turns out to be transactional sex for them – that or they have to hard sell themselves to get any. What is more meaningful? Mutual desire to fuck someone from a bar or a transactional fuck in a marriage? I rest my case. Just for the record, if a monogamous man shames men for sleeping around you can almost guarantee he… Read more »

Fred Flange, GBFC (Great Books For Cucks)
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Fred Flange, GBFC (Great Books For Cucks)

And now an article backed up by {SCIENCE}. Further amplifying what Alpha really entails, as just set forth in the honorable gentleman’s reply some moments ago.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201812/feminists-think-sexist-men-are-sexier-woke-men

IOW “chicks dig jerks – feminist chicks too.”

Nothing new here, of course, for our seasoned VFW (veterans of former wives) members. Just gussied up with psycho-speak.

j
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j

Aight someones gotta explain this shit to me cause I’m out here scratching my head.

How does this skinny beta ching chong end up with this HB7.5:
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from her youtube page, it suggests they been together for 4 years. And don’t tell me this nigga’s game is just extremely tight.

You call this type of girl, wife material?

boulderhead
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@Palma

I’d like to introduce you to my Dad,he’s been through a couple divorces and we both like to ski.
Did I forget to mention my bad attitude?

boulderhead
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@All the whiney betas,get out there and steal some alphas pussy,he ain’t guarding it after all he’s a natural.

j
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j

“What is more meaningful? Mutual desire to fuck someone from a bar or a transactional fuck in a marriage? I rest my case”.

p o w e r f u l

Student
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Student

@JohnD

Betas will shame alphas by saying the sex with some girl from the bar on a Saturday night is “meaningless”

But do Betas shame men because it is meaningless. Everytime I’ve heard someone against casual sex it is because they say that it inherently meaningful. This is why they say that it shouldn’t be casual.

Gota disagree with the author on this one…

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@Student

“Betas shame men because”

…they wish they could.

Exactly, how girls slut shame girls who act on their desires.

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@J

“What is more meaningful? Mutual desire to fuck someone from a bar or a transactional fuck in a marriage? I rest my case”.”

Bar or marriage, If her face doesn’t blush bright pink when she looks in your direction, if her legs don’t tremble when she stands near you, if she can look you in the eye and speak to you like your her equal – then it’s transactional.

Student
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Student

@J

If she isn’t literally having a panic attack because your actually spending time with her then it’s meaningless. Sorry

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@Student

She’s not my equal.

And all that ‘blushing bright pink’, ‘legs trembling’ in my presence? yeah I get that. Do you?

Student
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@J

Do think that because a woman will do a lot of things that it’s not transactional. Because, many women will do a lot of things for a good transaction.

Your money, your time, your dignity.

You know a lot of women just want to run away to the circus.

If you want to be a transaction I’m not here to shame you.

Embrace it

Sentient
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J

First off that girl is a 6.x. Do not lower the scale hoss!!!

Second beta guys get tons of sex… Who do you think she is fucling all week?

Just because you didn’t… Doesn’t mean most od the others aren’t. Go out at 7pm and Wednesday.

Beta date night in full effect. And tgese girls are fucling these guys… 1 hundo.

Just that they keep looking for sometging else all the while.

That is the difference.

theasdgamer
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“What is more meaningful? Mutual desire to fuck someone from a bar or a transactional fuck in a marriage?</i.

I choose Miss Sex Bot, lol. Do you, Miss Sex Bot, take Gamer to be your biological cum provider?

tl;dr only two options? lol

What is more meaningful? To exchange STDs with some stranger from a bar or to spend your life wanking in the wankatorium? Gee, hmm, makes me scratch my head. No, not my little head, ewe anchor!

theasdgamer
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If she isn’t literally having a panic attack because your actually spending time with her then it’s meaningless. That only happens when you open a girl, and only if her SMV is 3+ lower than yours (at least in her mind). In which case, why are you opening her? And if you haven’t had a chance to DHV before you open, then you have to open and then DHV, in which case she will NEVER NEVER NEVER have a panic attack, although she may end up chasing you with desperation. So, you don’t know your ass from a hole in… Read more »

Student
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Student

The man doesn’t move to the woman. The woman moves to the man.

The man does not order himself to the woman. The woman orders herself to the man.

The woman tries make the man think like the woman. But the man thinks like the man.

The woman tries to make the man move like the woman. But the man is not moved.

theasdgamer
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The man doesn’t move to the woman. The woman moves to the man.

You don’t know shit from shinola. Mating is a dance. Both man and woman move towards and away from each other.

Student
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Student

Said my niggaz don’t dance,
We just pull up our pants and,
Do da Roc-away.
Now lean back, lean back, lean back, lean back.

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@J – If that’s an HB7.5, well, my HB9 is an HB11. She’s dumpy, chubby has a bad face and isn’t interesting to look at. In fact, she looks way too “try hard” in that outfit. She’s barely a 6, and that’s being charitable. Naked, she’s probably a 5.

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@scribblerg

Brutal lol.

Ya her face is pretty average.

And she’s definitely got a chubby girl personality. My guess is, she’s a former fat girl (hence her choice of boyfriend). Cause she lacks that hot girl attitude.

But I mean a 5??? come on now:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlTGI4UBeTd/

Blaximus
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Blaximus

” How does this skinny beta ching chong end up with this HB7.5:

What the Actual Fuck?????

That girl is a 5 easy, and I didn’t even watch the video yet. Damn, I said my wife was a 7-7.5, but I better adjust her up to a 10.

Blaximus
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Blaximus

…. chin(s)

Blaximus
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Blaximus

…. she’s pushing maximum density. Last stop before Fat Assville.

j
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Dang. Guess I must have missed that memo where we rank HBs on face alone from now on….

Blaximus
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Blaximus

Chubby chick.

I keep telling you not to get tricked by makeup and shit.

She’s 2 cheesburgers away…..

theasdgamer
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It’s the day after Christmas, designated henceforth as “Fucking with J” Day.

For us spergs, the girl is obviously a 6 and Sentient and Blax are just messing with J for upgrading the girl.

palmasailor
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@boulderhead

Yeah I knew your attitude sucks, I’m an asshole too.

That’s the only reason I’ve survived this long.

Living in the gayfagsoydoublelattequeer capital of the planet it’s difficult to meet like minded men so woukd love to meet you and your dad but I expect you’re some way away from the U.K. / Europe?

Orson
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@j

Lol
There is this guy Hell By The Dashboard Light with the “oofy doofy” theory. He claims asian men and weak men in general are getting most of the pussy. He claims women are masculinised to the point that they are overwriting their natural inclination for Alpha seed. I laughed and thought he was trolling but after watching the video you posted with the asian guy, maybe he is into something.

https://youtu.be/bvqQe0R6sH8

theasdgamer
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I have to admit, the first girl I fucked didn’t have a panic attack when she talked to me and it sure as shootin’ was transactional sex. She gave me food and a place to stay and I gave her sex. lol

kfg
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kfg

“How does this skinny beta ching chong end up with this HB7.5”

Is she hiding behind the fat, ugly chic?

theasdgamer
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I see girls with weak boyfriends all the time at the bars I frequent. The girls dominate them and flirt with players. Probably fucking players more than they fuck their bfs.

Sentient
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Sentient

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpZxzwcnvQt/

J… Lmao. Come on… Check your prescription.

You are banned from HB ranking…

[PS – yeah she’s probably a good bang. She aint hot though. That’s OK too. Put down the Eeeego…. (Stephen A. Voice)]

boulderhead
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@Palma
“away from the U.K. / Europe?”

That Gravatar pic of Mt Princeton is my back yard. No doublequeerpeepeekisserfagsoylatteshebossesbeatdowns around here just more stoners by the day.

@j she isn’t even with that good looking celestial stud-pussy beggar. Check her body language,he is just her cuck. Trust me he’s better off without that scuzz.

scribblerg
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scribblerg

Blax doing my light work, nice. Kassey, wow, i wouldn’t even hit on her. Maybe if there was nobody else to fuck and the logistics were easy and was horny and feeling like degrading an average bitch, I’d give her a go. But fair warning, I’m fucking merciless to girls like her. For some reason I just am able to abuse them without a second thought, and they love it.

Kassey knows she’s not really that hot. In fact, one could say her entire life is built around compensating for that single fact.

j
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kfg
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kfg

“That’s not a pig. Look, I’ll prove it, I found a photo with lipstick on.”

j
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j

@Scribbs “Kassey knows she’s not really that hot. In fact, one could say her entire life is built around compensating for that single fact”. Agreed. She knows she’s not a 8+ no matter how much male attention she gets. Check out her instagram page, and just see how often she covers her face in her pics. But I know what you’re “9” is. You like them skinny boney chicks. And that’s cool. Just not 9s to me. How I personally rank HBs is by starting with the face. Then I add and subtract points based on her assets (tits, waist-hip-ratio,… Read more »

Blaximus
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Blaximus

Lol. Why did J post a pic of a pregnant Kylie and say it’s an ” unflattering ” pic?

She’s pregnant.

See, when a man like a girl, and they have sexual relations……

j
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@blax

sorry that pic is from 2016:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3662705/Kylie-Jenner-wears-big-cat-T-shirt-rapper-claws-way-life.html

“The loose-fitting sweatshirt, which featured multiple large photos of the big cat, covered up the star’s taut figure, and she coupled it with a pair of leggings”.

ya kinda just proved my point 😉

Blaximus
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Blaximus

this is very instructive. Now I’m seeing a bigger picture. J, the second chick, she looks the same in both pictures. She’s dressed down in one, and dressed up (?) in the second. That’s a nicer 6-7. Son, you are fooled by make-up and angles. Too much Instagram/internet picture watching. It’s fucking with your perception. Re: The chubby bitch you posted ( the 5 ), I’m not saying she’s unfuckable. I have fucked plenty of 5’s and soft, fluffy bodied chicks. I’ve never gone after them purposely. Lol, I’ve left bars with chicks like that in them, and decided there… Read more »

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@J – I know what beautiful is and isn’t. and doing the pic game here signals you have know idea you are dealing with…Up your game, this is boring.

Here’s a hard 8, has some angles that could be 9ish…
https://www.instagram.com/p/BoAeRHWljo9/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

j
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@Scribbs
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Just messing

my wing’s balls would explode if he saw this chick while he was out

rugby11
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Sex and performance

Blaximus
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Blaximus

That’s because no matter how much media and the manosphere try to say there’s only ” 1 ” universal standard of beauty, It isn’t true and never will be. Men have different tastes overall. men can be ” trained ” by media to find particular women attractive, or conned into believing they are the height of beauty. But when you dig down into the details, it becomes more selective. It’s whatever you like and whatever you find attractive at the end of it all. I’d bang Angela Saryfan not because she’s a stunning knockout, but mainly because she’s got a… Read more »

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walawala

@J you miss the point. Hypergamy is always in force and relationships like this are always in flux it may just not be you she tree-branches to but she is always ready to swing. I met an HB 7 at a networking event, ran standard game, number closed and got her out for drinks. When we met up, she was dressed hot, looked great then suddenly asked: “Is this a date?”–shit test. Me: What? This is 2018, no one goes on Dates… After some banter she says she’s got a bf. It’s clear she’s keen to explore something else but… Read more »

mersonia
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You could do alot with that neck

Blaximus
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Blaximus

lol. Who you tellin’??

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