Body Language

I have a feeling I’m going to get myself in trouble with this post. One thing I’ve learned from sixteen years of writing in the manosphere is that people take the issue of Looks are very personally. I think there’s something engrained in how our minds evolved to make us aware of where we fit in as far as image is concerned. I think maybe that’s the root of where we get the idea of leagues with respect to sexual market value. I’ve mentioned before that it’s my belief that everyone is keenly aware of their personal conditions on some level of consciousness and how we look to others is part of that awareness.

My friend Tanner Guzy wrote a great book this year titled The Appearance of Power and I learned quite a bit from it with respect to the, often derided, subconscious choices we make in how we present ourselves to others. A lot goes into what we think is the very simple task of dressing ourselves each day and the message we’re conveying to other men, women, our families, our coworkers, our church, etc. We all have at least a peripheral awareness of what we’re communicating with our clothes, our behaviors and our speech.

Another great book I’m presently reading is the new title from Joe Navarro, The Dictionary of Body Language. Joe was one of the speakers at last year’s 21 Convention and I had the pleasure of talking with him for a bit there. For 25 years he worked as an FBI special agent in the area of counterintelligence and behavioral assessment. Today he is one of the world’s leading experts on nonverbal communications and this book is a very good resource for a lot of reasons. I’m not sure Joe likes being affiliated with the manosphere, but there’s no doubt that what he’s studied and written about for so long can be an invaluable tool for reading the sub-communications of women in Game applications. 

Way back in 2011 I wrote a brief essay called Learn to Read. At that time my focus was on emphasizing the need to be aware of the information a guy could glean from his surroundings, understanding the social environment and also the sub-communications a woman might be relaying to him in that moment. We tend to take it for granted, but there is a lot of information our brains need to process in social settings. For the most part our subconscious minds push out the background noise and less important information to our peripheral awareness so our conscious minds can focus on what we think is most important. Sometimes the part we take for granted, the information that our subconscious processes can be at least as important as what our consciousness is sorting out.

I’m calling attention to this process (as well as Joe’s work) because I want to stress the importance our Instinctual Process plays in interpreting what we see with respect to social interactions, but more importantly for our purposes, when we see men and women interact with one another. For the past 12 years my career in the liquor and gaming industries has put me in the unique position of being able to people-watch and study the unspoken communications that goes on between men and women in settings where they’re primed to apply their interpersonal skills (or lack of). However, it wasn’t until I started contrasting what I was seeing with what I understood about behavioral psychology, evo-psych and the sexual strategies men and women evolved for.

And this, this is the part where I get myself in trouble. In that time I think I’ve developed a pretty good ability to read what men and women are communicating with their clothing, expressions, posture, physical positioning, etc. and interpreting it with a Red Pill Lens. I get in trouble with this because, like I said, people tend to take my reading into things very personally. Even if I’m reading the photograph of a couple they know nothing about they associate something in the image that with how they perceive themselves.

Most of us were taught from an early age never to “judge a book by its cover.” We were taught it’s wrong to be judgmental and it’s what’s on the inside that counts. This has never really sat well with me, but you run the risk of sounding catty when you judge a person by their looks or whatever it is they’re doing in a picture. They say you sound like a gossipy woman, or else it’s supposedly some indication that you’re projecting your own insecurities onto whoever it is you might be critical of. This is unfortunate because our Instinctual interpretive process makes judgment calls all the time in our peripheral awareness. We all make comparisons in our hindbrains, it’s just impolite to give voice to them. This does nothing to help us objectively assess what sub-communications are taking place.

So, fair warning, I’m going to make some reads on some pictures here and if what I interpret seems a little self-serving or judgmental just know that I’m doing my best to stay objective.

For the past 3 months I’ve gotten into the habit of reading the images of various couples that guys on Twitter have been sending me. If you want a brief primer for this I talked about it with Tim Wenger last August here. For the most part these guys wanted me to determine what they were seeing were Alpha Tells or Beta Tells in the body language between the couple. In the majority of these shots, the Beta male body language was fairly evident even to the untrained eye. What was less evident was what the woman’s sub-communications were conveying.

Leaning In

Of the more than a hundred shots I read, the number one most common position for men was the lean in. This posture is something Roissy once called attention to as the hallmark of a Beta subconsciously manifesting his mindset in his body language:

The lean-in is easily identifiable, and while I don’t think it is alwaysBeta Tell (depends on context) it’s certainly the starting point for other manifestations of men with a necessitous subconscious. What I mean by that is that the lean-in is a physical display that illustrates how a man’s subconscious has decided that his woman’s Frame is the dominant one in the relationship. He feels the compulsion to put himself into her space as his natural impulse.

It’s also important to bear in mind that when we are photographed with others, in this case women, we are, or would like to be intimate with, there is a subconscious recognition that anyone viewing the image will infer a relationship context. More on this later, but for now keep in mind that some of these inferences will be related to mate guarding behaviors.

The reflexive critique of this lean-in is usually “Well, that’s just that one shot” or “The photographer told him to lean in” to which I can only say that the predominance of couples shots, candid and staged alike, most consistently pose a man as the leaner.

Lean out

The counter to this leaning-in is a woman leaning out or away from the man. It’s almost as if there is an unspoken conflict of hindbrains going on. A (Beta) man leans in to find inclusion and acceptance in a woman’s Frame while her own hindbrain instinctively reacts and attempts to lessen any inference of intimate acceptance to a larger audience.

Above are some examples of the lean-out. In some of these the latent message the woman’s hindbrain is conveying is almost “Get him offa me!”, but with a smile so as not to be too obvious. Also notice the positioning of the free hand in most of these pictures. We’d like to rationalize this as a gesture of affection after the fact, but in the context of these shots the unspoken message is a defensive one against the man’s lean-in. Again, this is one more manifestation of a war playing out between the couple’s subconscious.

The Eyes Have It

I also want to draw attention to the facial expressions of these women. Notice the commonalities in gaze direction and the message their eyes and expressions are sub-communicating. Women are keenly aware of the permanency of an image and what that image communicates. I’ve pointed out in many a prior essay that women’s brains evolved to give them a much fuller capacity for communication and a sensitivity to nuances than men. Men prioritize the content (information) of communication while women prioritize context (feeling) of communication. This is a truth we have to consider when we analyze the expressions and physical communication of women in photos.

I joked with the guy who sent me the second image here that she looks like she wants to bang me, not the guy doting on her. There’s more than a bit of truth in that assessment. Women today are hyperaware of how an image can be used to facilitate or handicap their sexual strategy. It’s no accident or casual glance when a woman directs her attention towards the viewer. It’s not a person behind the camera that she has in mind when she knows she being photographed, it’s the potential audience – an audience that’s grown exponentially in the age of social media. 

In all these shots the woman’s attention is on how she will be perceived by any viewer of the shot. In some other images I was sent the woman’s focus was on anything other than the men whose only focus was her. In advertising there’s a presumption that when two or more people appear in an ad the one with the presumed dominance is always the one looking away or out at the viewer. The submissive party was the one whose attention is directed at the dominant person. The dominant person is the one telling the story in the ad. A common complaint among feminists about magazine ads in the 60s through the 80s was that it was women who were always disempowered as a result of being posed in subservient positions where they focused on a male in the ad image. The only exception to this was in what feminists still refer to as the Male Gaze wherein the dominance a woman was afforded was limited to her sexual viability and her capacity to hold the attention of any men in the ad and men viewing the ad. 

These concepts are an interesting contrast to the millions upon millions of photos girls and women post of themselves on social media every day. Think of the gender power dynamics in all these shots. It may seem like I’m splitting hairs here, but the reflexive impulse a majority of women default to is one of advertising themselves for potentially better options in the sexual marketplace.

Whether or not this is a practiced or unconscious tact, the latent purpose of women’s responses to their men’s Beta Tells is to advertise their sexual availability to the audience. Some guys have said that women default to these expressions as a means of ego aggrandizement and I’m willing to accept that there’s undoubtedly an element of egoism (certainly solipsism) involved. No doubt women often enjoy the envious attentions of other women on Instagram in the right context. However, these ‘ego shots’ almost universally center on the woman in the power dynamic. In each of these images the power belongs to the woman.

Mate Guarding

Another common Beta Tell is the death grip pose many men will opt for in their couple’s photos. This is a position where the man locks an arm around his woman or drapes an interposing forearm barrier between the viewer and the woman who is trying to coyly escape his mate guarding message. 

In a lot of these the woman often has her hand on his hand as if trying to pry him off to release her. It seems like a reciprocation of affection – similar to the hand on the chest pushing him away – but this is afterthought rationalization. Death grip is a clingy positioning, but again the battle between his and her subconscious centers on the guy mate guarding and her own subconscious desire to broadcast her sexual availability in spite of him.

I Love Mommy

In almost all of these images the male is focused intently on the woman. From a Red Pill perspective, I see this as a manifestation of how these men have been Blue Pill conditioned to make their women their Mental Point of Origin.  Even in the images where the man is looking at the camera his sub-communication is one of clear abasement to, or guarding of, his most important priority.

However, the most disturbing trend I’ve seen in couple’s photos is what I’ve dubbed the I Love Mommy pose. Maybe it’s my instinctual interpretation of it or maybe its’ an obvious Freudian connotation, but in these shots the Beta assumes and almost childlike position of kissing on his woman. 

Okay, so the last one is a press shot, but you get the idea. You can see the I Love Mommy positioning in a few of the prior photos above as well.  I could probably dedicate an entire essay to all of the psychological implications of this phenomenon. I had one critic on Twitter ask me if I genuinely thought this tendency was due to unresolved issues these men had with their mothers; it wasn’t until later he admitted he had a tendency to do the same and was honestly concerned. 

I’m sure the possibility exists, but more importantly I think this habit is due to men internalizing the myth that vulnerability is endearing to women. There’s this persistent lie that accompanies the vulnerability myth. That’s the lie that men can let their guard down and ‘relax’ around the woman they feel securely paired with. As a result they mentally revert to the boy who didn’t need to qualify himself for his mother’s love and they regress to a subconscious comfort in that vulnerability they believe will endear them to their woman. They sub-communicate all this in the I Love Mommy position.

I’ll have to return to this Mother Issues concept in a future essay, but for now, how do you suppose a woman’s hindbrain imperative for Hypergamy will perceive this habit, particularly in light of how image conscious women are in the Instagram generation? My first impression is that it would be one of revulsion, apprehension and resistance. Nothing turns off a woman more than a man indicating that he’d rather be her child than her lover or husband.

Alpha Tells

So, if all of this reads like the overly-critical projection and nitpicking I told you most critics will accuse me of earlier, maybe I can assuage your own judgment by presenting some Alpha sub-communications examples here. Finding these examples can be a tall order in an age where any man photographed in a position not entirely focused on his woman runs the risk of being called ‘toxically’ masculine. Today, men who are confident enough to default to body language that communicates they are their own mental point of origin get accused of ‘abuse’ or at least being self-centered. But as you’ll see this isn’t such a bad thing.

The best example of Alpha Tells in couples photos focus on the man being the center of importance in the shot. Yes, this is Vincent Cassel (51) and his wife Tina Kunakey (21). I have no doubt some hater will come up with some reason in the comments why Vince doesn’t align with whatever their interpretation of Alpha is, but for our purposes these images illustrate the opposite of a lot of the Beta sub-communications we just went through. So try to look past the celebrity and see what’s being displayed here.

First off, notice how Tina’s focus of attention is always on Vince. Women who hold genuine admiration for their men consistently make them the story in photos. Even in the shot where they look at each other her focus is on him. It’s not difficult to assess the power dynamic in their relationship, but you can also feel a genuine desire emanating from Tina.

Also, women who genuinely admire their men are unconcerned that their actions in a shot might be read as subservient or ego-abasing by women’s audience. I’d go so far as to suggest that the attention a woman receives from a man her Hypergamous hindbrain confirms as Alpha is far more valuable to her ego than any lower quality attention she might temporarily enjoy by appeasing her audience. Much of this observation is rooted in the Desire Dynamic. Hypergamy cannot afford to have a high SMV man be confused about her desire or motives. A woman who is proud of the association with man she’s paired with is less concerned about the perception other women might have of her actions – in fact, she’ll convert any disparaging opinion of them into a point of pride, if that man is above her own sexual market value.

When a little girl thought a little boy on the playground was cute her reflexive response to him was not something she had learned to consciously control at that age. That response is often reflected in the expressions of adult women when when their peripheral awareness of an attractive man connects with their Hypergamous hindbrain. The biting of the lip, the beaming admiration, the laser eye focus and the hopeful smile followed by a coy embarrassment of what she’s doing when she regains her composure are all the physical cues of a woman whose primary concern is the man she’s with.

Now, contrast these images with the earlier ones in which the men are clearly the hangers-on of the women in those photos. I’ve mentioned before that a natural Alpha man is almost never aware of his own Alphaness and that’s what really stands out in these photos – the men aren’t trying to evoke the reflexive responses of the women. They fluidly (almost Zen-like) prompt these reaction in women. There is no pretense or the obvious mugging for the audience that you see in shots where the Frame is clearly being directed by the woman while the hapless Beta tries to prove how in love he is by kissing on her while she finds something more interesting to occupy herself with. When a woman admires her man he is literally all she can think about.

In closing here I want to reiterate that I’m aware that all of this is going to come off as self-serving or catty. It’s impossible to objectively interpret body language without someone resorting to point & sputter insults about how they think you’re just being petty or you’re jealous of some celebrity’s life. Be that as it may the discouraging of anyone attempting to understand sub-communications only serves the the party that has the most to gain from a larger ignorance of them. So I hope this breakdown has provided at least some useful references to consider your own, or your woman’s, default behavior when the cell phone cams come out at a party.

But if you learn nothing else from this post, and you need one take-home message, please, whatever you do, don’t be this guy in your next couples shot.

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Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

” Don’t you wish you could introduce Mr. Smart Real Estate to scribbs face to face, then move away to a safe distance in order to watch the fireworks?”

… oh shit, coffee spray. Damnit AR.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

Of course you should carry your SAS guide with you when the shit hits the fan, even if you’ve think you’ve memorized it. The guide itself recommends having prepared tinder.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

AR

” So you’re just as much of a glutton for punishment in real life as on line? Dang. ”

Lol, I guess I am just a sucker sometimes. I don’t know how to just leave a conversation gracefully at the right point. When a guy that calls himself a business man and entrepreneur doesn’t understand fiat currency at a minimum, I make the stupid mistake of thinking ” Well, let me see if I can explain it to him. It might change his life “.

Sucker’s bet 90% of the time.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

As an aside, since it has essentially come up, ya ever wonder what real soldiers and “operators” carry in those “cargo” pockets on their pants?

Their pocket practice guides, that’s why the pockets are the size they are, pocket book size, so that they can spend the hours of boredom studying them, so that when the moments of sheer terror pop up they don’t need to try to look up what to do.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Blaximus Knowledge demonstration: Lol – my point was that cartels don’t routinely smuggle average central americans across the border for shits and giggles, and nobody does it for free. Previously you claimed the cartels don’t smuggle people. Now you move your goalposts. This is disappointing. Question: What is a caterpillar, where can you see one? Either you know or you don’t. But it directly has to do with “do cartels smuggle humans or not?”. If you recall, I said my military friends say it’s a national security risk ( not Guatemalans coming to pick watermelons ). You made no such… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

I have no clue what you’re getting at wrt my previous statements. Cartels aren’t a person smuggling organization in total. They still don’t randomly bring people in and get them jobs and shit. That point stands. Terrorist or potential terrorsit or possible terrorists with funds can do good business with cartels. A revenue source. 200 Bangladeshis ( of all things ) coming across the border isn’t the work of a coyote bring Jose over for 8 grand. I have no idea how many agents it takes to process 200 illegals in a timely manner, as that wasn’t the original discussion.… Read more »

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

AR ” So you’re just as much of a glutton for punishment in real life as on line? Dang. ” Lol, I guess I am just a sucker sometimes. I was thinking the same thing. Blax, you are trying to save the young boys. I’m impressed and have admiration and respect for that. But. I think that is the genesis of where your pressure of speech comes from. I have had horrible pressure of speech in the past. It’s usually a pathology, or a pathologic trait. But I came to realize it is not pathologic in guys like you, or… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

” Your talk of the problems with prosecutors is a tricky proposition to advise your young men on.”

Gotta be done. Which is why I talk to the young men and the prosecutors, together and separately.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

“Scientists Have Connected The Brains of 3 People, Enabling Them to Share Thoughts” Uh oh. “For now it’s very slow and not fully reliable, and this work has yet to be peer-reviewed by the neuroscience community, but it’s a glimpse at some fanciful ways we could be getting our thoughts across to each other in the future – ” So, NOW you tell me, at the very end of the “article.” I suppose I should be grateful that you mentioned it at all. “Wikipedia Rejected an Entry on This Physicist Because She Wasn’t Famous Enough. Well, She Just Got The… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

“Believe women” because of something or other. Here’s some pushback, no idea how it will turn out or what it will cost:

https://triblive.com/local/regional/14142176-74/lawsuit-accuses-seneca-valley-mean-girls-of-targeting-teen-boy-with-false

However if a few parents of special snowflake princesses had to take out a big mortgage on their house to pay off someone else’s legal fees, perhaps some of this would fade.

Robert What?
Robert What?
5 years ago

Very captivating article. Did anyone else notice that three of the four “Alpha Tell” photos are of a White man and a Black woman? What is the significance of that, if any?

rugby11
rugby11
5 years ago

Vincent in the picture
https://bit.ly/2IGumn8
Body language

mersonia
5 years ago

Rugby go away dude… U have problems that stem from you being on the internet 24/7 and you try to solve them by reading the internet 24/7 gtfo

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Blaximus I have no clue what you’re getting at wrt my previous statements. Read more carefully. Cartels aren’t a person smuggling organization in total. Goalpost moved again. Previously you wrote this: For reasonable people reading along, the drug cartels don’t bring a significant number of people across the border. I guess you can try weaseling around with “significant”, though. In the real world men whom I have reason to trust have told me of encountering groups of 20, 50 or more illegals in the Sonoran desert moving single file, with a lot of them carrying brand new backpacks. They are… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

@AR

So Tyson Foods is implicated in a drug smuggling conspiracy? And maybe some farm bureau types?

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Damn AR…. you still going? Lol. My initial response was to asd’s assertions. That’s where the ” working at Walmart ” thing comes from. Now… I had to call my buddy who is more familiar with the things you say are happening, for better real time clarification. He’s not BP, but ..um…” U.S. Military…affiliated( ex-special forces, but he says there’s really no ” ex ” ) who now officially works for the ” Treasury ” dept *wink*. ” I guess you can try weaseling around with “significant”, though. In the real world men whom I have reason to trust have… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

https://www.state.gov/j/inl/tocrewards/

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/pages/tco.aspx

Lol. I learn something new all the time. I had no idea the crime organization was so wide spread and cooperative.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

https://www.state.gov/j/inl/tocrewards/c78255.htm

4 million if you help catch this guy. Fuuccckkk….I need to contact the cartel to see if they can get me into Uzbekistan.

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Border crossing have been declining mostly for the last 8-10 years

Experience. You must be busy as hell, what with watching all the border towns and working your day job.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

” You must be busy as hell, what with watching all the border towns and working your day job.”

Lol. Nah, that’s why I ask somebody who’s job it is to stay up on this stuff. That’s his day job.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago
Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

I thought this was common knowledge. I guess it depends on where you get information from. Lol.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Tyson chickens is in a world of hurt.

*snicker*

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

…. chicken breast @ 75 dollars a pound soon.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

One set of political pundits will say ” only 2 people crossed the southern border illegally last year ”

Another political pundit will say ” over 2 million illegals crossed the border last year “.

Don’t listen to political pundits for facts sake.

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Blax, Obama stopped the Border Patrol from arresting people without a record, so that explains the drop under his administration. Trump had the Border Patrol return to arresting first time offenders (it’s only a misdemeanor), so that explains the uptick during Trump’s administration.

Of course, the arrestees frequently get bail and don’t show up for the immigration hearing.

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
5 years ago

It’s totally surreal out there now. I went to a fancy dress ball tonite where i didn’t know many people, looking good and trying to rock some mojo, but just couldn’t get into it. I know i’m struggling for mojo at the mo, but western women are just not much fun anymore. Got a few nice smiles, but didn’t have it in me to follow it up. Just don’t have much to say anymore. It all seems too hard now in middle age. Glad i rocked it when i was younger, but some female company wouldn’t go astray…

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Fox

It all seems too hard now in middle age.

The fuck is this?

https://therationalmale.com/field-reports-comment-page-2-comments/comment-page-103/#comment-263528

Go open your mouth big guy. If you want to eat, you have to.

Moping around… jeeesh

COTW winner is AspergersKills, who relates a night when the vibe seemed formidable and he had to dig deep and remember that it’s a man’s evolutionary assigned job to make the first move.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/05/31/comment-of-the-week-you-gotta-bust-a-move-to-get-into-her-groove/

scribblerg
scribblerg
5 years ago

@Sentient – Fox is getting exactly what he wants based on who he believes he is, due to the value and priority he assigns to himself. Newsflash: While many older men will feel sorry for themselves this weekend, thrashing their dicks raw to porn, some of us are out here banging young hotties. Some of us have a hottie staying with us while we game other hotties, hehe. If you guys saw the quality ass i’m playing these games with you’d shit yourselves. Get this – I MUST be high value to them if they are going to fuck me.… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Scribbs Good reminder about Game and Work… Best part? They signal their interest. So be prepared! Was out at the grocery earlier. My local place where I always run into half a dozen people easy. Up front getting a cart, next a a 5’9′ long legged stunner in short shorts. Gawd. I’m not thinking of gaming in my backyard. One of my rules I try and stick to. I get a cart, she is getting a cart next to me, she says “you can squeeze by” and there was just a nanosecond of something in her manner, imperceptible yet riveting… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
5 years ago

https://bit.ly/2QCeeWE
A interesting Take The eyes…

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Blaximus
My initial response was to asd’s assertions

Replying to spergatron again? Your problem, not mine.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Blaximus
We talked a lot more, but that’s the gist of it.

Seems reasonably accurate. Perhaps you could stick to that sort of text?

I love the desert but I can’t fathom walking across the Sonora in 115-120 degree scorching heat.

Abstractly it is the same as snowshoeing in Alaska at -40: Mindset, equipment, technique.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Fox
I went to a fancy dress ball tonite where i didn’t know many people, looking good and trying to rock some mojo, but just couldn’t get into it.

That would be a mindset problem, yes?

I know i’m struggling for mojo at the mo, but western women are just not much fun anymore.

One mindset says: “Who brought the fun?”

Another mindset says: “I bring the fun!”.

Still another mindset: “I AM the fun!”.

You have some mental habits that are working against you.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

Dang right Anonymous Reader. The thing to do is figure out your mindset in Game. It is not an option. Get your mind straight. We all have to do that. I did that. There are infinite parallels in single guy game and LTR Game. It’s all the same despite the nay-sayers. Get your ducks in order. Eliminate your worst destructive “going to a party tendencies”. Celebrate your best going to a party tendencies. You have to be attractive, don’t be unattractive. Deconstruct your weaknesses. Enhance your strengths. Adhere to covering your bases. Wikipedia The Anna Karenina Principle. Just move forward… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
5 years ago
bluepillprofessor
5 years ago

This is a really fabulous set of pics and explanations. The body language merely highlights the underlying dynamic in marriages and LTR’s. Women ‘lean out’ while demonstrating their contempt for the man and with sultry glances convey their sexual availability for other men to fill their ever increasing hypergamous desires. Women pulling away from men rather than gazing at them adoringly is not just a behavior, it is an attitude- and that attitude has been conditioned out of empowered Western women. Of course they grab the hand that holds them as if to force a release of the man’s grip… Read more »

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Tom
Tom
5 years ago

I think it’s correct nowadays when i put my arm around a woman i try to avoid ”death grip” by asserting too much strength onto her body, same with leading her waist going somewhere else

Correct me if im wrong.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

Only enough pressure to let her know what you want her to do and she should simply do it because she knows it’s what you want. That has always been correct, not just “nowadays.”

Guest
Guest
5 years ago

funny how all the pics you post with the ‘alpha’ are of low low smv half black or black girls…wonderwoman don’t count cuse she not grinding all over him…point is simply that its rare youre going to see a white girl faun over her guy the saem way a black girl will

Jeff Z
Jeff Z
4 years ago

You might want to include Tom Brady and Roger Federer as references. Giselle is always seen in Tom’s frame even though she could most likely get any man. Also watch Mirka around Roger Federer. She knows she landed the motherload, an alpha who also provides security as he is an excellent father.

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ET
ET
4 years ago

Subcommunications and non-verbals are fascinating, and the simple fact is if you want to know what is going on with women or the one your are with, you need to spot them and get a sense for them. It is their primary form of communication.

I have certainly gone back through a couple of my relationships and you can see where things were starting to go south from her non-verbals. More distance, more selfies, more pictures of her by herself…….. You can easily see which couples can’t last from their Instagram accounts.

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Vic
Vic
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Here is an example:comment image

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nachshonlenet
3 years ago

wholly shit I never realized any of this.
I am such a beginner in the whole TRP movement, I’ve finally realized that I need to accept my own masculinity INSTEAD of trying to become more feminine. It’s about being more rational and stable then women – that’s what makes you so attractive as a man!!!! I wrote a post called https://datingarmory.com/how-to-be-more-masculine/ BUT NOW I NEED TO REWRITE THAT BIG TIME.
I got it allll wrong!
my eyes are slowly, but painfully opening up.

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