Body Language

I have a feeling I’m going to get myself in trouble with this post. One thing I’ve learned from sixteen years of writing in the manosphere is that people take the issue of Looks are very personally. I think there’s something engrained in how our minds evolved to make us aware of where we fit in as far as image is concerned. I think maybe that’s the root of where we get the idea of leagues with respect to sexual market value. I’ve mentioned before that it’s my belief that everyone is keenly aware of their personal conditions on some level of consciousness and how we look to others is part of that awareness.

My friend Tanner Guzy wrote a great book this year titled The Appearance of Power and I learned quite a bit from it with respect to the, often derided, subconscious choices we make in how we present ourselves to others. A lot goes into what we think is the very simple task of dressing ourselves each day and the message we’re conveying to other men, women, our families, our coworkers, our church, etc. We all have at least a peripheral awareness of what we’re communicating with our clothes, our behaviors and our speech.

Another great book I’m presently reading is the new title from Joe Navarro, The Dictionary of Body Language. Joe was one of the speakers at last year’s 21 Convention and I had the pleasure of talking with him for a bit there. For 25 years he worked as an FBI special agent in the area of counterintelligence and behavioral assessment. Today he is one of the world’s leading experts on nonverbal communications and this book is a very good resource for a lot of reasons. I’m not sure Joe likes being affiliated with the manosphere, but there’s no doubt that what he’s studied and written about for so long can be an invaluable tool for reading the sub-communications of women in Game applications. 

Way back in 2011 I wrote a brief essay called Learn to Read. At that time my focus was on emphasizing the need to be aware of the information a guy could glean from his surroundings, understanding the social environment and also the sub-communications a woman might be relaying to him in that moment. We tend to take it for granted, but there is a lot of information our brains need to process in social settings. For the most part our subconscious minds push out the background noise and less important information to our peripheral awareness so our conscious minds can focus on what we think is most important. Sometimes the part we take for granted, the information that our subconscious processes can be at least as important as what our consciousness is sorting out.

I’m calling attention to this process (as well as Joe’s work) because I want to stress the importance our Instinctual Process plays in interpreting what we see with respect to social interactions, but more importantly for our purposes, when we see men and women interact with one another. For the past 12 years my career in the liquor and gaming industries has put me in the unique position of being able to people-watch and study the unspoken communications that goes on between men and women in settings where they’re primed to apply their interpersonal skills (or lack of). However, it wasn’t until I started contrasting what I was seeing with what I understood about behavioral psychology, evo-psych and the sexual strategies men and women evolved for.

And this, this is the part where I get myself in trouble. In that time I think I’ve developed a pretty good ability to read what men and women are communicating with their clothing, expressions, posture, physical positioning, etc. and interpreting it with a Red Pill Lens. I get in trouble with this because, like I said, people tend to take my reading into things very personally. Even if I’m reading the photograph of a couple they know nothing about they associate something in the image that with how they perceive themselves.

Most of us were taught from an early age never to “judge a book by its cover.” We were taught it’s wrong to be judgmental and it’s what’s on the inside that counts. This has never really sat well with me, but you run the risk of sounding catty when you judge a person by their looks or whatever it is they’re doing in a picture. They say you sound like a gossipy woman, or else it’s supposedly some indication that you’re projecting your own insecurities onto whoever it is you might be critical of. This is unfortunate because our Instinctual interpretive process makes judgment calls all the time in our peripheral awareness. We all make comparisons in our hindbrains, it’s just impolite to give voice to them. This does nothing to help us objectively assess what sub-communications are taking place.

So, fair warning, I’m going to make some reads on some pictures here and if what I interpret seems a little self-serving or judgmental just know that I’m doing my best to stay objective.

For the past 3 months I’ve gotten into the habit of reading the images of various couples that guys on Twitter have been sending me. If you want a brief primer for this I talked about it with Tim Wenger last August here. For the most part these guys wanted me to determine what they were seeing were Alpha Tells or Beta Tells in the body language between the couple. In the majority of these shots, the Beta male body language was fairly evident even to the untrained eye. What was less evident was what the woman’s sub-communications were conveying.

Leaning In

Of the more than a hundred shots I read, the number one most common position for men was the lean in. This posture is something Roissy once called attention to as the hallmark of a Beta subconsciously manifesting his mindset in his body language:

The lean-in is easily identifiable, and while I don’t think it is alwaysBeta Tell (depends on context) it’s certainly the starting point for other manifestations of men with a necessitous subconscious. What I mean by that is that the lean-in is a physical display that illustrates how a man’s subconscious has decided that his woman’s Frame is the dominant one in the relationship. He feels the compulsion to put himself into her space as his natural impulse.

It’s also important to bear in mind that when we are photographed with others, in this case women, we are, or would like to be intimate with, there is a subconscious recognition that anyone viewing the image will infer a relationship context. More on this later, but for now keep in mind that some of these inferences will be related to mate guarding behaviors.

The reflexive critique of this lean-in is usually “Well, that’s just that one shot” or “The photographer told him to lean in” to which I can only say that the predominance of couples shots, candid and staged alike, most consistently pose a man as the leaner.

Lean out

The counter to this leaning-in is a woman leaning out or away from the man. It’s almost as if there is an unspoken conflict of hindbrains going on. A (Beta) man leans in to find inclusion and acceptance in a woman’s Frame while her own hindbrain instinctively reacts and attempts to lessen any inference of intimate acceptance to a larger audience.

Above are some examples of the lean-out. In some of these the latent message the woman’s hindbrain is conveying is almost “Get him offa me!”, but with a smile so as not to be too obvious. Also notice the positioning of the free hand in most of these pictures. We’d like to rationalize this as a gesture of affection after the fact, but in the context of these shots the unspoken message is a defensive one against the man’s lean-in. Again, this is one more manifestation of a war playing out between the couple’s subconscious.

The Eyes Have It

I also want to draw attention to the facial expressions of these women. Notice the commonalities in gaze direction and the message their eyes and expressions are sub-communicating. Women are keenly aware of the permanency of an image and what that image communicates. I’ve pointed out in many a prior essay that women’s brains evolved to give them a much fuller capacity for communication and a sensitivity to nuances than men. Men prioritize the content (information) of communication while women prioritize context (feeling) of communication. This is a truth we have to consider when we analyze the expressions and physical communication of women in photos.

I joked with the guy who sent me the second image here that she looks like she wants to bang me, not the guy doting on her. There’s more than a bit of truth in that assessment. Women today are hyperaware of how an image can be used to facilitate or handicap their sexual strategy. It’s no accident or casual glance when a woman directs her attention towards the viewer. It’s not a person behind the camera that she has in mind when she knows she being photographed, it’s the potential audience – an audience that’s grown exponentially in the age of social media. 

In all these shots the woman’s attention is on how she will be perceived by any viewer of the shot. In some other images I was sent the woman’s focus was on anything other than the men whose only focus was her. In advertising there’s a presumption that when two or more people appear in an ad the one with the presumed dominance is always the one looking away or out at the viewer. The submissive party was the one whose attention is directed at the dominant person. The dominant person is the one telling the story in the ad. A common complaint among feminists about magazine ads in the 60s through the 80s was that it was women who were always disempowered as a result of being posed in subservient positions where they focused on a male in the ad image. The only exception to this was in what feminists still refer to as the Male Gaze wherein the dominance a woman was afforded was limited to her sexual viability and her capacity to hold the attention of any men in the ad and men viewing the ad. 

These concepts are an interesting contrast to the millions upon millions of photos girls and women post of themselves on social media every day. Think of the gender power dynamics in all these shots. It may seem like I’m splitting hairs here, but the reflexive impulse a majority of women default to is one of advertising themselves for potentially better options in the sexual marketplace.

Whether or not this is a practiced or unconscious tact, the latent purpose of women’s responses to their men’s Beta Tells is to advertise their sexual availability to the audience. Some guys have said that women default to these expressions as a means of ego aggrandizement and I’m willing to accept that there’s undoubtedly an element of egoism (certainly solipsism) involved. No doubt women often enjoy the envious attentions of other women on Instagram in the right context. However, these ‘ego shots’ almost universally center on the woman in the power dynamic. In each of these images the power belongs to the woman.

Mate Guarding

Another common Beta Tell is the death grip pose many men will opt for in their couple’s photos. This is a position where the man locks an arm around his woman or drapes an interposing forearm barrier between the viewer and the woman who is trying to coyly escape his mate guarding message. 

In a lot of these the woman often has her hand on his hand as if trying to pry him off to release her. It seems like a reciprocation of affection – similar to the hand on the chest pushing him away – but this is afterthought rationalization. Death grip is a clingy positioning, but again the battle between his and her subconscious centers on the guy mate guarding and her own subconscious desire to broadcast her sexual availability in spite of him.

I Love Mommy

In almost all of these images the male is focused intently on the woman. From a Red Pill perspective, I see this as a manifestation of how these men have been Blue Pill conditioned to make their women their Mental Point of Origin.  Even in the images where the man is looking at the camera his sub-communication is one of clear abasement to, or guarding of, his most important priority.

However, the most disturbing trend I’ve seen in couple’s photos is what I’ve dubbed the I Love Mommy pose. Maybe it’s my instinctual interpretation of it or maybe its’ an obvious Freudian connotation, but in these shots the Beta assumes and almost childlike position of kissing on his woman. 

Okay, so the last one is a press shot, but you get the idea. You can see the I Love Mommy positioning in a few of the prior photos above as well.  I could probably dedicate an entire essay to all of the psychological implications of this phenomenon. I had one critic on Twitter ask me if I genuinely thought this tendency was due to unresolved issues these men had with their mothers; it wasn’t until later he admitted he had a tendency to do the same and was honestly concerned. 

I’m sure the possibility exists, but more importantly I think this habit is due to men internalizing the myth that vulnerability is endearing to women. There’s this persistent lie that accompanies the vulnerability myth. That’s the lie that men can let their guard down and ‘relax’ around the woman they feel securely paired with. As a result they mentally revert to the boy who didn’t need to qualify himself for his mother’s love and they regress to a subconscious comfort in that vulnerability they believe will endear them to their woman. They sub-communicate all this in the I Love Mommy position.

I’ll have to return to this Mother Issues concept in a future essay, but for now, how do you suppose a woman’s hindbrain imperative for Hypergamy will perceive this habit, particularly in light of how image conscious women are in the Instagram generation? My first impression is that it would be one of revulsion, apprehension and resistance. Nothing turns off a woman more than a man indicating that he’d rather be her child than her lover or husband.

Alpha Tells

So, if all of this reads like the overly-critical projection and nitpicking I told you most critics will accuse me of earlier, maybe I can assuage your own judgment by presenting some Alpha sub-communications examples here. Finding these examples can be a tall order in an age where any man photographed in a position not entirely focused on his woman runs the risk of being called ‘toxically’ masculine. Today, men who are confident enough to default to body language that communicates they are their own mental point of origin get accused of ‘abuse’ or at least being self-centered. But as you’ll see this isn’t such a bad thing.

The best example of Alpha Tells in couples photos focus on the man being the center of importance in the shot. Yes, this is Vincent Cassel (51) and his wife Tina Kunakey (21). I have no doubt some hater will come up with some reason in the comments why Vince doesn’t align with whatever their interpretation of Alpha is, but for our purposes these images illustrate the opposite of a lot of the Beta sub-communications we just went through. So try to look past the celebrity and see what’s being displayed here.

First off, notice how Tina’s focus of attention is always on Vince. Women who hold genuine admiration for their men consistently make them the story in photos. Even in the shot where they look at each other her focus is on him. It’s not difficult to assess the power dynamic in their relationship, but you can also feel a genuine desire emanating from Tina.

Also, women who genuinely admire their men are unconcerned that their actions in a shot might be read as subservient or ego-abasing by women’s audience. I’d go so far as to suggest that the attention a woman receives from a man her Hypergamous hindbrain confirms as Alpha is far more valuable to her ego than any lower quality attention she might temporarily enjoy by appeasing her audience. Much of this observation is rooted in the Desire Dynamic. Hypergamy cannot afford to have a high SMV man be confused about her desire or motives. A woman who is proud of the association with man she’s paired with is less concerned about the perception other women might have of her actions – in fact, she’ll convert any disparaging opinion of them into a point of pride, if that man is above her own sexual market value.

When a little girl thought a little boy on the playground was cute her reflexive response to him was not something she had learned to consciously control at that age. That response is often reflected in the expressions of adult women when when their peripheral awareness of an attractive man connects with their Hypergamous hindbrain. The biting of the lip, the beaming admiration, the laser eye focus and the hopeful smile followed by a coy embarrassment of what she’s doing when she regains her composure are all the physical cues of a woman whose primary concern is the man she’s with.

Now, contrast these images with the earlier ones in which the men are clearly the hangers-on of the women in those photos. I’ve mentioned before that a natural Alpha man is almost never aware of his own Alphaness and that’s what really stands out in these photos – the men aren’t trying to evoke the reflexive responses of the women. They fluidly (almost Zen-like) prompt these reaction in women. There is no pretense or the obvious mugging for the audience that you see in shots where the Frame is clearly being directed by the woman while the hapless Beta tries to prove how in love he is by kissing on her while she finds something more interesting to occupy herself with. When a woman admires her man he is literally all she can think about.

In closing here I want to reiterate that I’m aware that all of this is going to come off as self-serving or catty. It’s impossible to objectively interpret body language without someone resorting to point & sputter insults about how they think you’re just being petty or you’re jealous of some celebrity’s life. Be that as it may the discouraging of anyone attempting to understand sub-communications only serves the the party that has the most to gain from a larger ignorance of them. So I hope this breakdown has provided at least some useful references to consider your own, or your woman’s, default behavior when the cell phone cams come out at a party.

But if you learn nothing else from this post, and you need one take-home message, please, whatever you do, don’t be this guy in your next couples shot.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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One needs to be cautious when interpretating pictures esp those in which the characters are consciously posing for a photo. I would trust video footage from hidden cameras more. The most trustworthy alpha tells you get from your bitch are the ones you get when she is spreading her ass for you. Or when she is asleep next to you. If you wake up to find her askeep with her arms and legs strangling your poor ass to death…then you know.

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I’ve studied body language for many years.
And I’ve used its studies on my personal and professional life.
I’d say that 90% of it is spot on.

I see some people here complaining that body language is overrated or can be manipulated. Specially by women.

I think these people are clearly forgetting that most women are dumb as shit and clearly work more based on their feelings and instincts rather than their rational brain. So I’d say most women, when posing for a photo, don’t even think about what they’re doing

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I’ve lurked silently on TRM for a couple of years now. I have watched myself grow into a more mature young with game.  You guys (the Manosphere and TRM in particular)  are the biggest influence in my life these past couple of years. I’ve read books I heard about the first time on here: ‎ ‎ (The Rational Male, TRP Handbook, the Way of Men, A Man In Full, 48 Laws of Power, Mastery, The Art of Seduction,  The Craftsman, The Seduction Blueprint, Models, and The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck by Mark Manson,  and so many more… Read more »

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RE: CFGauss September 26, 2018 at 7:07 pm Vincent Cassel… boss status confirmed This is incorrect. He might be the most accomplished D.P.A. man on the planet–doesn’t matter. Cassel would have to answer the question—for himself and nobody else–how is my life improved by marrying this woman and what are my likely expectations for this improvement to continue. We can speculate, and as a man in a successful long-term marriage, it looks like he made a poor decision. Does he have a prenup? Can it hold up? Is she the best he can do? She’s about an HB7 without cosmetic… Read more »

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Was last pic supposed to be taken seriously as couple? Looks like stripper giving lap dance.

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“Cassel would have to answer the question—for himself and nobody else – how is my life improved by marrying this woman and what are my likely expectations for this improvement to continue.” Agree. My “Boss” assessment is solely based on the fact that, at 51, he has successfully completed a branch swing from a 50 something Monica Bellucci to a 21 year old model who, apparently, is crazy about him and is 100% in his frame. Nothing more. Gotta give the man props for that. Marriage, as you point out, is a different ball game altogether. He definitely puts himself… Read more »

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I looked through my Facebook friends and in most couple photos, there is no leaning in by the man. I even noticed one alpha male pose during the wedding with the bride heavily leaning in. I suspect that the photographer requested this pose. I also noticed that men are more likely to have a couple photo as their profile photo.

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Thanks @newlyaloof How did my marriage fall away? I was never an Alpha. I admit that. But I definitely allowed myself to become subservient to her whims & desires. I simply never put my foot down and said “no”. I went along with whatever she wanted. We’ve lived in several countries as she gets bored after a year or so. I gave up my IT career to start a business in her area, which ended up with me not only doing most of the work (she often has a headache, or has “lost her voice”, etc.) but also I’ve done… Read more »

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Very thoroughly researched + presented, per usual. Any word on the audible release of your third book? Thanks for all your hard work!

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Cant really disagree Palma … there is nothing he can do with her married that he couldnt do as her ‘partner’… just ask Dwayne Johnson. Though probably ‘common law’ marriage laws might snag him anyways… especially if he impregnates her.

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Simbo I was never an Alpha. I admit that. But I definitely allowed myself to become subservient to her whims & desires. I simply never put my foot down and said “no”. I went along with whatever she wanted. First: You were at some time “Alpha enough” for her. That can be recoverable. You have come to the right place for that. Second: “No” is a hugely important word that women need to hear early and often. This can be regained but it will be a fight. You are at the right place for that, too. Third: Being the easy-going,… Read more »

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Not saying anything about DJ being an alpha boss though the context of the thread suggests that I was… Im just using him as an example of a man who does all of the usual ‘married’ things with his woman without marrying her and suggesting that VC could have done the same… probably should have for a better reward:risk scenario.

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Did she say no?

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“How many former Alphas and always-were-Betas will be convicted of “sexual misconduct” for performing 50-Shades like scenes” – Probably very few alphas. Girls don’t come back to alphas for money and revenge unless they were treated very poorly. They come back for tingles, to get fucked good and social proof. The betas who got and will continue to get snared have lousy game and suck in bed. Read all these scenarios where they come off as chumps or just socially inept. Girls will respect the alpha for spiking them with pleasure, feeling the power and lure of seduction and titillation.… Read more »

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“For realzzzz? Smh” Wikipedia “Brown began his first campaign for the Democratic nomination for president on March 16, 1976,[33] late in the primary season and over a year after some candidates had started campaigning. Brown declared: “The country is rich, but not so rich as we have been led to believe. The choice to do one thing may preclude another. In short, we are entering an era of limits.”[34][35] Brown’s name began appearing on primary ballots in May and he won in Maryland, Nevada, and his home state of California.[36] He missed the deadline in Oregon, but he ran as… Read more »

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“Girls don’t come back to alphas for money and revenge unless they were treated very poorly.”

But they may interpret “treated very poorly” as “not getting fucked.”

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What if the Sun get’s her wet?
https://bit.ly/2y1siRW

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Well, God damn…..I just finished reviewing “couples” pictures from my second marriage stored on my external hard drive with an eye towards “lean in and lean out” behaviors, and it was textbook. She was lean-in, eyes-on, and all touchy, the first 6 years. Year seven up the end, that defensive hand was up and I was the one leaning in. It all changed when we took a trip to Europe and continued to the week she blew it all up. Like most guys, I was absolutely clueless for a couple of years post-divorce until a “friend” told me about her… Read more »

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The only “lean in” you’ll catch me doing in a photo these days…

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So the submissive person is gazing at the dominant person, who is looking outward. But one more point… To appear truly dominant, don’t look at the camera, look off in some other random direction. Don’t look at the cameraman for validation, look out toward some inner MPO that only you can see. (My family tree is heavy on fashion advertising, and you’ll see this is a classic pose) Notice in Rollo’s photos where the male is pathetic and the female is dominant — she’s usually staring straight into the lens for an intoxicating hit of social validation, from the photog… Read more »

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“The Kavanaugh-Ford ‘face off’ is at once a symbol, metaphor and concrete manifestation of a war on the planet, one of whose core features is precisely an epidemic of sexual violence against women. Because sexual violence is a literal embodiment of the paradigm of endless extraction that is destroying not just the lives of women around the world, but potentially the world itself.” Full article: https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-deep-state-made-commander-kavanaugh-an-intersectional-analysis-6cd09ebf8737 This is more than “equalism.” It’s also the beginning of a new phase of our culture where the hyper media, identity politics and victimization mindset is taking over reason and common sense. Totalitarian movements… Read more »

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As we vapid windbag journalists love to intone, “it remains to be seen” if the FI/MeToo hysteria is reaching full Cat 5 force here or in this case is actually jumping the shark and heading toward public ridicule and rejection. There are so many male enablers that I’m taking the dim view. But one thing to keep straight is that Kavanaugh is a beta — maybe a good guy or maybe a weasel, depending on your outlook. I saw some people saying he had an alpha moment when defiantly defending his reputation Thursday. But an alpha would not be in… Read more »

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The only “lean in” you’ll catch me doing in a photo these days…

Heh, true dat.
Trading in my cbr300r for a HD Sportser 1200. Got to be careful about the leaning on that one.

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Leaning in – I’ve been monitoring myself in real time on this.

Being a bit shorter than my current girl I tended to lean in. Now, for example, in the shower or in the kitchen kissing I’ll stay upright or even lean back a bit. There’s a half-second pause and she realizes I’m not leaning in for the kiss but rather I’m waiting for it to come to me. She chuckles as if she knows what’s going on and comes in.

It’s as if she’s much more aware of body dynamics than I am.

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Yeah I had a fun weekend checking out the box of old 35 mm prints. To my relief I found nothing truly pathetic on my part, and plenty of pix where she has a firmly possessive armlock around me. So I’m ready to face grilling from the Senate Subcommittee on Intersexual Snapshots.

In a lot of shots the dog is actually getting more attention than either me or she — and looking dominantly outward — so that may be something for Rollo to look into…

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But an alpha would not be in this situation to begin with.

An alpha who is accused just laughs it off with a mildly disparaging comment about the accuser.

“Lol, doesn’t she have something better to do than go around throwing darts at men?”

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Is there anyone who doubts that a book deal was lined up for Ford when the attorneys approached her to “come out?” Is there any doubt that the attys. got a cut of the book deal? This is hypothetical, but plausible. Day 6 of the Ford attys. trying to coach Ford Atty: So, can you say with any certainty that Kavanaugh was the guy who assaulted you at the party? Ford: I dunno, I was pretty drunk myself. Atty: Well, I guess we can’t go forward with this. Ford: Does that mean no book deal? Atty: Of course there’s no… Read more »

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… And then from “pretty sure” it became “100 percent certain.”

Book deals are a handy way to bundle and launder political contributions, or for a publishing house — usually part of a big media empire — to buy political favor in DC. Of course now there are avenues such as GoFundMe to give it all a more grassroots facade.

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O.B.I.T.
https://bit.ly/2DKhiy9

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Supposedly 4 in 10 people believe Ford…if true, this shows how clueless most people are…zero corroboration is required to convince them…

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Ford is just a foot-soldier of the deep-state willing to jump on the hand-grenade to save abortion. This is not about Kav. it’s just the fear that if an abortion case comes up that he may vote with others to role back abortion access. It’s a proxy war to save abortion. I personally don’t care about abortion one-way or another, but I’m not distracted from what’s really going on. Do these folks really believe Ford or do they just want to believe her in order to save abortion.

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O.B.I.T. Book deals are a handy way to bundle and launder political contributions, or for a publishing house — usually part of a big media empire — to buy political favor in DC. Of course now there are avenues such as GoFundMe to give it all a more grassroots facade. Eh? C’mon! Book deals are so 20th century. Professor Doctor Ford has over $800,000 pledged to her on GoFundMe and I haven’t looked lately, so it is probably more by now. She’ll be surfing in Tahiti for a long time with that bankroll. Once she gets over that terrible fear… Read more »

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Are there any laws regarding funds raised by crowd funding?

Say Fords legal costs come to 200K but she raises 2M… can she pocket the 1.8M and do whatever she wants with it? Is it just income that she must pay taxes on but then can spend it at her discretion?

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On dear.

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Blaximus
On dear.

Worst haiku ever.

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lol @ Blax

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AR, the CIA tie looks bogus, but there’s other shit… …boasting about boozing and sex in her yearbook, which got scrubbed prior to Ford’s accusation going public… The source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, noted that the annual class books feature a photo of an underage Ford attending at least one party, alongside a caption boasting of girls passing out from binge drinking. Her yearbooks also openly reference sexually promiscuous behavior by the girls, including targeting boys at Kavanaugh’s alma mater, Georgetown Prep, an all-boys school in the affluent Maryland suburbs of Washington, D.C. Ford attended neighboring Holton-Arms… Read more »

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CFGauss
Where their is this.
https://www.crowdpac.com/

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Recently a couple of broads put their hands on my equipment. I need someone to set up a GoFundMe account for my security and other assorted requirements when I make this public.

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That last picture is hilarious

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Great post, Red Pill plus practical examples.

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Re: Blax, giggling at his pretensions. “Remember, in a.consumer driven ecosystem” – perfectly pseudo-intellectual comment, belying poseur status. Blax – What kind of “ecosystem” (i think you mean economy or social order, you are misusing the term but of course do so cuz you think it sounds good, lmfao) do you prefer? One in which buyers (a consumer is not necessarily a buyer, moron) aren’t free to buy what they like? As for “suckers” that would be you, you fucking buffoon. You’ve bought into a bougie black middle class smugness and semi-smartness I see far too often. Simple question: How… Read more »

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HB9 circled back again, he he. She and I both started eating a la Robert Gundry and Dave Asprey about the same time. She looks younger than she did 2 years ago, as I do in some ways due to it. At 31, her tits are firming up, it’s incredible. Anyone not hip to what Gundry and Asprey are doing are missing a huge hack to better overall health. She was already ridiculously hot – and now with the working out and eating even better, wow. Naked she’s like a model woman. I spent the weekend with her. We were… Read more »

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@DisgruntledEarthling Not a huge Harley fan myself, particularly here in the Texas Hill Country. Lots of roads for aggressive leaning and nice scenery. Add in that the picture above was from the current American MotoGP track and the Ducati I’m on there makes a good all-rounder. I do however have a Rocket 3 that makes weekend appearances in places where ass needs to be carried back to my apartment.

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I love the cbr300r and would probably get something similar in the 600cc range but my 59yo body just can’t take it. And the seat on that thing – I like to go for 3 hour rides but my ass-bones just hurt too much (and my wrists, back, shoulders). I did my course on 650 cruisers – the ride is just so much more comfy. An HD has those mid-controls that i like

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re cbr300r:

Had to go have a look at the Honda page. It’s nice to see small displacement standards back in the line up. It’s almost tempting. Maybe even a pair, a standard for cruising and a crotch rocket for country road blasting.

On the other hand, I see that displacement creep is back as well. Another few years and the 250 will displace 350.

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Ha! All very true. Great post. And, hey! Her cell phone camera remains off if she is into you. If she is really into you, she has what she desires or is avidly anticipating it with you and will not be concerned (temporarily at least) with marketing herself in those moments. This Kavanaugh shit is OVER THE TOP! Julie Swetnik claims she attended 10 teenage drunken gang rape parties in the early 80s that no one else knows about. My neighbor fucks his dog in the nude on his front lawn every morning across the street from the elementary school… Read more »

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Her cell phone camera remains off if she is into you.

Not if she’s in her 20’s to early 30’s, that’s the Selfie Nation. Be interesting to see if that continues as they age – I bet it will.

Posture / position is just part of body language, which does reveal at least something about a person’s state of mind. To put it another way: our Frame is always on display, as Rollo’s clever use of images in the OP makes very clear.

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“Anyone not hip to what Gundry and Asprey are doing are missing a huge hack to better overall health.”

Amen, X10 to That!

It’s primarily about avoiding things (foods) that make you unhealthy. The other half is feeling great.

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@kfg The small displacement market definitely got a much-needed shot in the arm recently. The creep is already just about over. 300-400cc is all the rage at the short twisty tracks these days. Unfortunately they’re not a very good fit for CotA’s 200+ back straight. Even my 937cc twin is tapped out at 141.

I’m looking in to a dedicated track bike now. Likely a Daytona 675R or the 765 on that fancy new Moto2 engine if Triumph will just release the damn thing already.

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‘Bout time motorcycles got back into one of these conversations.

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@Lost Patrol

It’s what I’m here for.

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Re: The “Why” Sentient refers to. My why is different than Sentient’s why. As should the guy wondering what to do upthread’s why should be. Text her because you want to. Don’t ask her what she’s doing or about her schedule. Tell her what you want her to do. Meet her again if you want to. Waiting 3 days or 3 seconds or 3 months is irrelevant. Get this – no matter what I say or do, I’m never chasing. ‘Cuz I’m never chasing, got that yet? So if I text her 900 times, it’s never given by chasing. But… Read more »

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“So, ya, overcoming the social conditioning we are steeped in is very hard.”

This is why Kavanaugh looks like a frog in the pot,he isn’t sure what’s happening to him,he thinks it is all political. The poor guy is so steeped in the fem primary social order he doesn’t even know it exists,just “due process” he thinks and says.

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So, ya, overcoming the social conditioning we are steeped in is very hard.

Anything worth doing is hard.

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Imagine people (men women and children) have to empty their pockets and remove all metal or get groped just to come into your courtroom every day all day and better not say anything about it. Then you can issue gag orders and cavity searches ,there are some claustrophobic inmates that want two front doors because of this guy.

And now just because it’s a woman this same action is reason for dismissal. WTF

Putting his hand over a mouth and groping is what his job requires.

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Followup to CFGauss September 29, 2018 at 12:27 pm To each his own as far as HB scale. I thought she has a bit of a “horse-jaw” as shown in the essay picture where she is about to lick Cassel’s cheek. That square jawline is of the type that we are informed excites women in their proliferative phase. For another example, look at Jessica Chastain. It also appears to be a “now you see it, now you don’t” with digital editing changing the size of her chin and the shape of her jawline. Is this an example of intermittent FI… Read more »

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between the 3 minute and 4:30 minute mark diana davidson reveals how the hamster works it’s magic in the rats nest – that is the female brain
https://youtu.be/iR3Ic9kGOBo

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https://youtu.be/PSrTdxipS5A
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hamsters don’t lie – and they certainly don’t fail polygraph tests!

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Showing anger and indignation is no big deal if done in the right manner. Kavanaugh came off pissed off about all the accusations, justifiably so. How he reacted with the tears, body language and demeanor was awful. He would have done well to have watched Inspector Callahan played by Clint Eastwood. The character in this movie shows anger, but does it in a way that comes off more appropriate. I laugh when people, especially women, accuse me of being so “angry.” It’s a shit test.

https://youtu.be/PdysW4Pw_SE

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I laugh when people, especially women, accuse me of being so “angry.” It’s a shit test. Depends. If you are angry while maintaining self-control and are not driven by your emotions, that is fine. If you aren’t in control of your emotions, that is feminine and low-value for a man, so that is a problem for a man and needs fixing. When a woman shit tests in this situation, she is testing whether you have self control or not. Your response needs to make it clear that you are maintaining self-control. Briefly switching from anger to humor is a perfect… Read more »

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Roused, I think that Kav saying that he was a virgin for many years is weak and catering to the FI. I further think that the Repub response to Ford’s accusations is weak because it is so obviously within the Dem frame. The proper response was to 1) ask if there is any corroboration and 2) to laugh it all off as not worthy of serious consideration without corroboration. I think that this all comes back to bite the Repubs in the mid-terms because it makes Trump and the rest of the Repubs look weak. Men won’t show up to… Read more »

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Until the end

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Different opinion, as there’s usually more than one way to view a thing ( and people can look at the exact same thing and each see something vastly different depending on many factors). Also: I’m not looking for any ideological/political debate. ( in b4 ” blax is a leftist/liberal bullshit ). 2 points. Kavanaugh isn’t adept and being challenged and accused. He’s failing that test publically. One would think that to ascend to federal judgeship, a man would have to overcome challenge and difficulty, and would learn to deal with ( unfair) pressures. Kavanaugh isn’t used to dealing with ”… Read more »

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Blax, this is all about protecting the Left’s Cult of Death. But Kav was part of the coverup of Vince Foster’s murder. He’s a criminal himself and covered up an FBI witness report.

No good guys in any of this.

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Rationally, at some point a man should stop clinging to ideology if he’s interested in truth and resolving wide spread fuckery. It’s more like ” your brand of fuckery is worse than mine ” vibe.

This makes all men who choose to participate in it with acceptance and excuses complicit in their own eventual destruction.

Don’t cry about it. Don’t get angry about it. Eradicate all of it.

Or pay metric tons of lip.service.

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Kav led the coverup in the OIC.

This is the only time in history that

an Independent Counsel was ordered to include

evidence of a cover-up by his own investigators in his own Report

http://www.fbicover-up.com/brett-kavanaugh.html

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The Central Park Five–more evidence that the cops are just another gang–and more dangerous than most.

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Here’s how I learned about Kav’s role in the coverup of Vince Foster’s murder:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/my-battle-brett-kavanaugh-over-truth-ambrose-evans-pritchard/

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And nothing has changed from then till now.

Unfair/unjust isn’t as uncommon as people think, until it happens to them or someone they know, or someone they ” like ” for whatever reason.

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Sorry, previous link didn’t show the complete story:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sinister-battle-brett-kavanaugh-over-202425923.html

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Everyone ought to bear in mind that my rap sheet is boring emptiness and I don’t have grudges against cops.

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Lol. I don’t have a grudge against cops either. Lots of cops/staties in my family. I have grudges against particular cops that behave in a particular manner specifically. I have a problem ( not a grudge) with the systemics. Over the last year I’ve been dialoging with as many prosecutors as will meet with me wrt to the quest for ” conviction ” and plea bargaining vs the quest for truth and justice. I have a cousin that was accused and charged with robbing a fast food restaurant, even though he was nowhere near the place in question and had… Read more »

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The cosmopolitan society is a pipe dream. People don’t cling to ideology to find fairness or truth. They cling to it to administer their own brand of fuckery.

One man’s fuckery is another man’s Red Pill.

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So yeah, I talk to as many judges and prosecutors as I can, armed only with countless examples from forever.

And maybe go watch some actual court cases.

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When Trump first announced his pick and Kav made a little speech, it went on and on and on about what a champion he’s been for women and girls. He re-belabored that point ad nauseum in his big emotional speech at the hearings.

This supplication for FI/PC approval is the one thing that has bothered me about him, even worse than all the crying and sniffling. He may well be a saint in this regard, but see where it got him?

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Are you assuming I haven’t been in court watching cases or ever served on multiple jurys??

I have made it an internalized habit of not speaking strongly about shit I don’t really know about.ever

That’s what’s amusing when a certain commenter here who shall remain nameless , accuse me of being an ill informed blow hard or some such.😂

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O.B.I.T. This supplication for FI/PC approval is the one thing that has bothered me about him, Remember, this is the terrible, horrible, awful agent of Teh Patriarchy who is going to put Handmaid’s Tale into effect right after confirmation. This is the badass Catholic. Other choices for USSC Justice are even more blue-pilled than Kavanaugh. This is what the “elite” looks like, and anyone who wants to get anywhere has to mouth all the right words & slogans. Just like in other places and times, got to toe the line at least in public. Nobody reads “1984” anymore. I’ve asked.… Read more »

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Blax some of my comments are directed to readers.

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You parade and praise Vincent Cassel as an alpha. Would you do the same for a black alpha man married to a younger white woman (or any hsmv white woman)?

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Got it.

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@AR
My LTR doggedly teaches 1984 and 451 but I doubt it does much good. I think To Kill a Mockingbird always gets the biggest response

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Who cares if a “black alpha man” marries a white highway safety motor vehicle woman?

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1984 and 451 were required reading for my daughters in school. In college, no. Even though they both read 1984 a decade apart in time, their reactions were the same.

” this is happening now…”.

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what is hsmv?

I can’t keep up with all the manosphere abbreviations.

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One more since it’s so quiet.

*chuckles*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRJecfRxbr8

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Yawn.

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Palma It’s a very tricky subject. Especially in the manosphere. There’s definitely something going on, and it is against men, but now it’s inclusive of ” white men ” who were pretty much insolated in the past. The war against ” black men ” has never really ceased since the end of slavery/civil war. So it depends on one’s perspective as to whether it’s bigger than color. I mean, I can see and hear very plainly that white males are being targeted and attacked, but the reverse wrt to black men, who’ve gone through attacks forever – that couldn’t be… Read more »

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…. not sure if that’s a consolation or not.

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Palma

It’s a war against white men.

That’s the bulwark. That’s where the battle will be. Hall’s Deep.

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Helm’s

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Yeah, now.

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Helm’s Deep

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You know I love ya. You are a masculine man. Full stop. You are also a forceful advocate for your perspective. “Blaximus” ain’t an accident brother. But I wouldn’t expect anything else. There is no interest like self interest. Don’t hate the playas…

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