On last Saturday’s Red Man Group we took a call from a woman who has apparently just discovered the “red pill school of thought” and looked up what ever convoluted definitions she could find from the ‘normie web’ to better understand it. For context, the whole exchange began around the 2:04:00 mark here, but the bit I want to dissect I’ve cued up to 2:09 in the above video. The Red Pill as a praxeology is often something most uninitiated people don’t have the patience to really want to understand. So when they’re confronted with a Red Pill truth that conflicts with some ego-invested belief they often just resort to what I call “point and sputter” – they spit out some school yard taunt, tell you how unbelievable it is anyone could ever believe such a thing in this day and then move along to whatever ideological site they’re comforted by.
Credit where it’s due, this woman (and I apologize for not getting her name) at the very least was prompted to ask some questions about how we come to whatever misattributed ideas she read were what it is we think. Listen to the whole exchange for context. In the beginning I was asked the standard “what do you tel your daughter about all of this?” as if this is going to somehow shame me back down to earth, but the part she was most distraught over was the idea that “women are only valuable for what they look like”.
My response to her was based on an essay I wrote 4 years ago titled Separating Values. In that piece I tried to outline how women today have trouble separating their sexual market value from their self-perceived personal worth:
Conflating Values
One of the major problems women have, and more than even some red pill men have, is the conflation of sexual market value with their intrinsic personal value as a human being.
It needs to be emphasized that while personal value is influential in sexual market value, SMV is distinct from your value as a human being. I’m stressing this because, in the age Disney Princess empowerment, this conflation of the two has become a go-to social convention; and not just for women.
What [Robin] Korth suffers from is presuming her personal value is her sexual market value.
It’s disruptive to her self-perceptions and ego-investments when that presumption is challenged by a man who doesn’t want to fuck her for reasons based on the intrinsic value she believes she’s entitled to by virtue of maturity and imaginings of self-sufficiency. Just as women aren’t aroused by men’s own self-concepts of virtuousness and aspirations of higher purpose, men aren’t aroused by whatever ephemeral self-perceptions a woman may have.
Listening to this woman’s concerns, it’s a fairly common refutation and one we come to expect from a mindset that presumes men callously objectify women out of hand, or due to their being taught to be so by a chauvinistic toxic masculinity. Women cling to this because it sounds right and reinforces the victimhood narrative that defines the collective identity of the Sisterhood. So when they read it or see it openly embraced, or spoken about men in a positive context it’s confirmation of an offense they want to believe is endemic in men. Thus, we get the “literally shaking”, sound of a quavering voice.
However, all of this gets in the way of women really understanding that they’ve been conditioned to conflate their personal worth with their sexual market value. As I mentioned in my response, a woman can be a wonderful humanitarian, a great mother, the CEO of a Fortune 500 company or someone who adds value to the depth and breadth of humankind, but it won’t make her look any better in a bikini. And that is where sexual market value starts for women when it comes to men’s arousal and attraction. For as long as I’ve been writing this blog I’ve tried to explain this in as simple a way as possible; men and women are different. Part of our differences is that what constitutes sexual market value for one sex is not an equal evaluation for the other. For as much as the equalist mindset pervades our social consciousness, the reality is men and women are different in many fundamental ways.
One reason Red Pill awareness in men gets vilified by women is because it nakedly exposes, discusses and develops sexual and life strategies around some very Darwinistic and unflattering realities of intersexual dynamics based on those differences. But exposing these differences is only offensive to this social order because there is a presumption of a blank-slate equalism that’s been embedded into every aspect of our gender understanding for almost 70 years now. This offensiveness is less about the actual nuts and bolts of evolution, biology and psychological differences between men and women, but more so it’s about the ego-invested idea that men and women should be blank-slate, functional equals in all respects. Even this presumption is a horse-shit cover story for the latent purpose of feminism floating the lie of “equality” – fundamentally disempowering men so women can aspire to be their masters in various ways.
The woman from our discussion expressed this barely containable angst that men only value her as a sexual object, and it’s important to suss out the reasoning for this confusion and rage. As I mentioned, the problem women have is an inability to separate their sexual market value from their personal value a ‘basic human being‘. A quote I’m known for is “virtue is anti-seductive.” No guy ‘virtues’ a woman into bed, and while I get push back for devaluing the importance of virtue occasionally, what I don’t get is any disagreement from men or women on that point. Virtue, intelligence, honor, duty, wisdom and any number of other esoteric features that would make a man a terrific human being do nothing (or sometimes work against him) for his raw visceral sexuality that women are aroused by. For men, however, these traits and many more will definitely add to his attractiveness as a long term prospect for women.
In men, affluence, status, intelligence, improvisation, creativity, ambition, drive, perseverance, humor, positive-conventional masculinity, and many more aspects make this man an attractive choice for a long term relationship with women. These are attributes that contribute to a man’s sexual market value, but they are incomplete without a raw, visceral physical component. Hypergamy serves two masters, Alpha seed and Beta need – and as such it hates the one and loves the other depending on what a woman’s most pressing necessity happens to be at that point in her life. Women have an innate, limbic understanding of what makes a man a complete package – a great catch.
Where this and most other women fail is that their own Fempowerment conditioning teaches them that what makes a man attractive, what makes his SMV appealing to women must necessarily be what makes for her own personal value and sexual market value. The reason this woman is shaking here is because this conditioning has convinced her and generations of women to build a life predicated on a fallacy: What makes her a “good person” should necessarily make her attractive and arousing to men. This is a great falsehood that is the root of many of the gender conflicts and misunderstandings we see around us today.
Gendered Differences in Attraction
The things that make a woman’s sexual market value high are not the same things make her sense of personal worth high. Yet, this is exactly what the Feminine Imperative conditions women to believe and seeks to shame men for not complying with this fallacy. When men opt for younger, hotter, tighter at all ages of their own maturity, the visceral message is clear – it makes no difference what a woman’s personal value is when it comes to sexual valuation. Where women fall short is they presume that men cannot appreciate women for anything but their sexual value.
This is an interesting dynamic since the Imperative teaches women never to implicitly do anything for a man.
The prime directive of feminism for the past 50 years has been founded on women striving to achieve the ideal of the Strong Independent Woman® (SIW). This SIW ideal is the carrot that gets the mules to pull the cart. That ideal is never fully attainable because if it were it would make an end state for feminism a realizable goal rather than the self-perpetuating social mechanism it is. The SIW ideal is intentionally ambiguous, but the concept is based on selling women the idea that they can not only “have it all” but they can be it all too. The ‘independence’ feminism sells predicated on being a self-sustaining, self-satisfying, autonomous ‘thing’ that doesn’t need for anything. A woman is every bit as good a feminine role model as she is a masculine one, ergo, she has no need for men beyond the physical aspect. In fact, an independence from men, from any form of dependency on men, has been part of the feminist charter since Seneca Falls in 1848.
From a Red Pill perspective, and in my opinion, this independence from men has been the single most damaging aspect of feminism in its history. Men and women evolved to be complements to the other and in evolutionary terms are far stronger together than apart. Each compensates for the one’s innate weaknesses with the other’s innate strengths. Feminism preaches two lies in this respect – the first being that a woman can “have it all”, but also she can be an autonomous being with no intrinsic needs beyond what she can provide for or address herself. The lie is that she “don’t need no man” when a hundred thousand years of evolution says different. Men and women need each other, but it’s feminism that’s selling the lie that they don’t.
The ironic part about this socialized lie is that in emancipating women from the ‘dependency’ of men feminism has founded the basis of ‘having it all’ on how closely a woman can emulate a man. The definition of a successful Strong Independent Woman is how closely she can replicate the success of men. This ideal for SIW success is based on a masculine ideal. As feminism has refocused women’s goals on these masculine ideals it has systematically altered the definition of femininity to align with its ideal of ‘success’.
The Myth of the Alpha Female
As part of that new masculine ideal of female success, along came the concept of the Alpha Female. I’ve read dozens of articles about this fantasy creature; how she’s a boss who takes no shit and turns companies around from the brink of bankruptcy by virtue of being female. A woman of the future who emulates and exceeds the successes of any apex-male CEO of those sexist Fortune 500 companies. Even if she’s not a high powered exec, the match (literally) of any man, women still love to imagine themselves in this “alpha” role in their own little worlds.
“I’m an Alpha Female, and maybe I’m not a jet setter, but I’m a Type A personality and as such I’m headstrong, a go-getter woman who knows what she wants.”
This sloganized mental model is part of the new Strong Independent Woman® costume that feminism is selling to women today.
If you’re a woman who’s bought into the Confidence Porn narrative that’s so popular today, allow me to ruin that image for you. There is no such thing as an “alpha” female – at least not in the respect of the idealistic Fempowered fantasy you think applies to you. The Feminine Imperative likes to convince women that they are ‘Alpha’ using that same masculine model definitions I detailed above here. The Strong Independent Woman meme only holds up insofar as it emulates masculine success and a masculine defined concept of ‘Alpha’. By this definition every woman has a potential to be an ‘alpha’ female in her own little way. Like I said, the Confidence Porn women gobble up is so tasty because it’s so achievable – all you have to do is cop the “I’m the boss, I’m a Type A person” attitude, put some foam inserts in the shoulders of your ‘power suit’ and you too can be Alpha because you say so and you walk the same walk as an Alpha Male.
The push for female-primacy has conditioned generations of women to expect an entitled, default respect, and a deference to their authority from men. They’re told at every opportunity from the time they’re 5 years old that they can do anything, have it all, be it all, and they’re the “natural leaders of the future”. By extension this leads women to the Alpha Female trope.
Ironically, the same people who love to ridicule the idea of ‘Alpha Males’ completely accept the concept of an Alpha Female. They’ll make funny videos ridiculing the Red Pill for using ‘alpha’ as a referential term – “These jokers think they’re wolves or Silver Back Gorillas, hur hur!” – but they’ll eagerly embrace the idea of an ‘alpha’ female. That conditioned deference of the feminine makes it believable; and they like the idea that identifying with women’s delusions of empowerment might get them laid.
Attribution Bias Error
The error that women and feminism make in the ‘Alpha Female’ respect is an attribution bias error. Women are conditioned to believe that if they value the aspects of what makes men attractive, what makes them a good pairing, that men must also value those traits in women. If status, power, social proof, affluence, careerism, drive, etc. is what gets them hot for men (in the long term) then possessing those traits themselves must also be attractive in the reverse. Unfortunately for women, they’re painfully (but slowly) learning that men and women are in fact different and the lie of egalitarian equalism has essentially cost them a future with a husband, children and family living.
In order to counter this harsh reality an industry in biotech egg-freezing has sprung up around the very real female insecurity that these confident Alpha Women wont find a suitable man to start a family with now that they are well past the Wall. Feminine-primary society is capitalizing on this fear.
But the reverse is true; men’s sexual selection criteria is far more simplistic than women’s. From an evolved, naturalist perspective men select women based on looks and sexual availability – and on a subconscious level women know this, yet they rationalize that men should be interested in their coequal professionalism, status and any number of intrinsic qualities they believe they possess. The root of this misunderstanding is once again the socialized lie of egalitarian, blank-slate equalism. Only now women expect that if they invest themselves in the same pursuits as Alpha men that this should compensate for their lack of physical appeal. If men and women are functional equals what defines male dominance should also define female dominance. Evolution says differently.
The woman on the left (Reneé Sommerfield) is the true Alpha female by the standards of evolutionary realities. The woman on the right (Sheryl Sandberg) is what our gynocentric social order would have men believe should be considered an ‘alpha’ female. This is the conflict that’s at the heart of so many manufactured crises of attraction for women and the failure of their long-term plans to have a family.
The Alpha Female is really the woman who best embodies what men’s evolved, biological imperatives determine what makes her an attractive breeding and long-term mate choice. Men’s criteria is very simple; fitness, youth, assertive sexuality, playfulness, conventional femininity and genuine desire to please him. Beyond this, submission, respect, nurturing (potential mothering qualities), a natural deference to male authority, humility, admiration and an unobligated desire to recognize that man as her complementary partner are just some of the long-term attributes that make a woman someone a man might want to invest himself in a family with.
Unfortunately all of this criteria is counter to the message ‘alpha‘ Females are taught are valuable today. They are taught that anything a woman might do for the expressed pleasure of a man is anathema to the Strong Independent Woman® meme. The presumption is that a desire to meet any of this criteria is a failure on the part of a woman who demands to be the ‘equal’ of a man. Even acknowledging the innate, complementary natures of men and women is an affront to the equalist narrative. Furthermore, any man who would base (much less express) his own decision making criteria as such is shamed via social conventions. The narrative is that he must be needy, or threatened by a “strong woman” or he must want this woman to be his Mommy substitute. All of this is a social mechanic meant to force fit that natural complementary criteria into the box of egalitarian equalism.
I don’t write for a female readership per se. In fact, I don’t really direct my writing towards any audience, but in this instance I want to end here with a message for my female readers. Take this message to the bank: the sexes evolved to be complementary to each other, not adversarial. But that adversarial feeling you get when you read me describing some unflattering aspect of female nature is the product of your own Blue Pill conditioning that’s taught you the lie of egalitarianism-as-female-empowerment. If you truly want to ‘empower‘ yourselves set aside your self-importance, look inside yourselves and ask this question –
What is it about me that a man would find attractive from a naturalistic perspective?
What do I possess that a man would truly believe is Value Added?
That may feel a bit counterintuitive to you, but understand that the reason this introspection is alien or offensive to you is because you’ve been conditioned to believe that your masculine qualities are what men should find attractive about you. You turn this offense back on men and make it their fault for not finding your ‘alpha femaleness’ the root of their attraction to you. Is the idea of changing yourself, to add value to your package, for the pleasure of a man a source of anger for you? Why is that?
I see far too many otherwise beautiful women who destroy themselves on the lie of the ‘alpha’ female and a never ending struggle to perfect an equalist archetype in themselves. They rail on about infantile men, or bemoan that men are afraid to ask them out, or ask “Where are all the good guys nowadays?” Understand that these efforts to shame men into finding something attractive about you based on your masculine criteria for attraction will always fail; leaving you a lonely childless middle aged wreck all because you refused to accept that you need to be someone worth marrying.
Men and women are better together than they are apart. We evolved to be complements to the other. But, feminism, the Feminine Imperative and an endemic Fempowerment culture have taught you to believe “you are enough”, you are complete, you don’t need a man because you can satisfy all of your own needs. This is the most damning lie ever perpetrated on womankind – that you can be it all – and only when it’s too late do women realize that they’ve been had.
When Fox first when on the air I tuned in to see what they were all about. My assessment was, “Ah, I see. Instead of hiring talking heads they’re hiring talking boobs.” I don’t object to the boobs, they generally find some pretty decent ones, but it does mean I am always aware of a level of manipulation involved. When CNN first went on the cable I tuned in to see what they were all about and I thought it was pretty hot shit, but as the years went on I started thinking, “Where are they getting all these talking… Read more »
Supposedly Sandberg’s BB died on a treadmill.
Asd
I’ll let you in on a secret.
When I reply to you in certain subjects, I’m not really speaking to you as much as I’m speaking to the younger readers lurking in the comments. They need to hear that they don’t have to pick extreme sides and played allegiance to others and their agendas. It’s perfectly fine not to, and imo, you’ll live a longer, happier and less stressful life.
He in society and not of society.
Here’s my Rugby moment:
John Oliver talks About Vilnius G-Spot campaign:
https://youtu.be/WsqeNdFzvlQ
Yollo Comanche
Supposedly Sandberg’s BB died on a treadmill.
Accidents will happen…
A R The problem of the messaging to young women ( and young people in general ) predates sandberg. Sure, she pushes the messaging along with many others by many mechanisms. The message is part feminist and part runaway capitalist. I draw distinction between ” runaway vampire capitalism ” and regular, run of the mill capitalism. We’ve been in the age of the former for a couple of decades now, so it’s been thoroughly normalized. Everybody is sold the ” you can have it all because OPPORTUNITY in the land ” message, but young people, make and female, are finding… Read more »
Blax, I think that the German pastors in Germany under the Nazis preached that exact same message.
Sandberg has been a pretty good role model for young women. Her “I demand that you stop calling me bossy” proved that women can be funny.
Blax, if you oppose extremists, you will be called an extremist, no matter how moderate your political philosophy. I’m not captive to any group and I keep my eyes open. My political judgment improved with age and experience. I’m registered as a repub because I live in a red state and the dems are irrelevant for the most part; they are mostly leftists anyway. I’m generally pleased with Trump, including the hate that he focuses on himself from the left. I’m a fan of small business and consider Big Business a major threat. My capitalism tends towards anarchism. I also… Read more »
I was an the metro today and ran into this girl named Molly from Kansas turns out I biked through her hometown. What I find interesting is that she was married but I was engaging with her and she kept touching my face with a sense of ease and flirtation. She is married and her husband is learning how to run a car dealership. She had a breath of alcohol and I wasn’t sure what to do. But their was this feminine energy of grace that made me appreciate the beauty of what a women has. Something I’m not sure… Read more »
Blaimus The problem of the messaging to young women ( and young people in general ) predates sandberg. True but irrelevant. Sandberg is the “face” of the standard message. Sandberg is the girl that plenty of 30-something women are holding up as the “alpha woman” that men should be attracted to. That is probably why Rollo chose her as an example in the Original Posting in contrast with that other girl. Again, it’s not “hate”, it’s pointing to something of social significance. The OP matters more than any random rabbit trail. There are no “alpha women”. Women who get sold… Read more »
@kfg
https://infogalactic.com/info/Ban_Bossy
Unintentional humor is often the best humor.
Rugby
Stop wallowing in grief stages.
It’s not attractive.
@Anonymous Reader Re: TWotSM “Please do comment after reading it. Your review would be interesting to other men, I am sure.” YGBFSM if you haven’t read it. If you have, what’s your take? BTW, the chapters only average three pages long, barely the length of one of my average C & P posts. And there is only like 51 of them. It’s not like a bible to me. I thought is was bullshit 10 years ago, now it is insightful, very much so for how to differentiate the differences between men and women. It explains a lot of Red Pill… Read more »
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2018/07/09/who-cares-that-misty-has-a-bigger-dick-than-colleen/
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2018/07/31/what-happened-to-our-men-that-our-women-are-forced-to-have-such-big-dicks/
Multiple times in the last few years I’ve had 20-something and 30-something women start qualifying themselves to me, almost every time they roll out a verbal version of a resume with wide eyes locked on mine. “Ima blah-blah-blah with certification blehblee!”. College girls, 30-something girls with careers, 20-something interns – if it has happened to me more than once, it cannot be that unusual or uncommon. One girl rolled that out in a dance club, with her boyfriend a few feet away but distracted. Catch-and-release fishing is one thing, a tasty fish trying to jump into my waders is another…… Read more »
@AB
Good point. That’s the churchgoing version of the same thing.
Rugby 🏉
“Has anyone here ever flirted with a married women and escalated without knowing their where someone else’s wife?”
Yes. And the other way round. It’s all good. Enjoy that energy where you find it.
People, male or female, in the final analysis, only have the ” power ” that you give them,, or that they can physically take from you.
Concessions are made to keep the illusions/Disney world going. When making concessions, and shit goes sideways, who’s culpable?
If thiss were not true and real, there’d be nothing for the red pill to reveal.
Arenas. They matter.
I may be done with the truth bu the truth may not be done with me.
Blaximus
“If thiss were not true and real, there’d be nothing for the red pill to reveal.
Arenas. They matter.”
All the world’s a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts, His acts being seven ages. At first, the infant, Mewling and puking in the nurse’s arms.
As You Like It, Act II, Scene VII
Thanks Sentient
@rugby
One married woman was massaging my hand…right in front of her husband…I felt very uncomfortable. lol Married women do lots of eye-flirting in front of their husbands. That’s not a big deal. One married guy said, “No penetration.” lol
Rollo swings for the fences… and hits a home run. Awesome.
The “Alpha Female” is mostly an insecure bossy shrew who’s past her prime.
She attracts beta males and orbiters who lack the ability to make their own decisions and think this “partnership” will last.
It rarely does because at her core the alpha female still seeks an Alpha Male because… AWALT
Every self-anointed “Alpha Female” I’ve ever met has simply been a bitchy woman with a major case of Short Guy Syndrome. Their need to prove themselves to everyone around them gets old really fast.
They’re shitty at being women and even shittier at emulating the Alpha men they think they’re the female analog of. Jack of no trades, master of none.
Really liked this. It’s worth pointing out the obvious I think that women have FAR more leeway to do just about whatever and still remain fuckable due to Male sexual thirst. This definitely muddies the water.
The 30s careerist and the adolescent nice guy really do have so much in common. Both too blinded by egalitarian orthodoxy to see the wood for the trees.
What our host is asking women is what the manosphere once asked me;
“Yeah you might be a great bloke. But are you attractive to the opposite sex? Really?”
Here’s a fantastic example of women’s total delusion and their hamsters in light speed, but also of not taking any responsibility at all for their foolish actions, and still blaming men for their own outstanding female stupidity in being “catfished” by men who didn’t even exist (in fact, one was scammed by another woman!). The writer, Kerri Sackville, really needs to be called out on this solipsistic bullshit. The feminine mind is a joke, not ever to be taken seriously by any man worth his salt… “On Sunday, I read an excerpt of Casey Donovan’s (fat Aussie singer) new book,… Read more »
This is an excerpt from Casey Donovan’s story. And even funnier, her book is called, “Big, Beautiful and Sexier”. Yep, so big, beautiful and sexy that her boyfriend for 6 years was purely a figment of her imagination…
The feminine hamsters are going into full on turbo-charged melt-down. Time to reach for the popcorn, gentlemen. A very large tub…
https://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/the-cruel-way-i-found-out-my-six-year-relationship-was-a-hoax-20180809-p4zwfw.html
As I begin to digest the post just a quick one on the woman that called: Tale as old as time. The FI & the female hive mind have told women that they are the same as men, or that men should subsume their nature to fit their priorities. This is why the red pill hurts because red pill sight forces you to live reality whether you accept it or not. It’s like Patrice O’Neal says: To women, what makes you fuckable doesn’t make you loveable/likeable unlike men. And as Rollo has said many times the FI has basically told… Read more »
Me and my husband both are software engineers
“Me and my husband both are software engineers”
So what you are saying is that you have a masculine bent (inclinition)?
Good luck with that.
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kfg Open the box and look inside. https://bit.ly/2vFbgJ0 “In order to counter this harsh reality an industry in biotech egg-freezing has sprung up around the very real female insecurity that these confident Alpha Women wont find a suitable man to start a family with now that they are well past the Wall. Feminine-primary society is capitalizing on this fear.” https://bit.ly/2KQ9RUD “Listening to this woman’s concerns, it’s a fairly common refutation and one we come to expect from a mindset that presumes men callously objectify women out of hand, or due to their being taught to be so by a chauvinistic… Read more »
“Me and my husband both are software engineers”
Because of course you are.
The only thing notable about this thoroughly mediocre, post wall woman who looks like a bad tranny’s blog post is that it’s on CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/09/opinions/please-no-more-beards-thomas/index.html
And then they get all upset that people don’t take them seriously as journalists anymore.
He’s a man ” transitioning😂😂😂” to female.
Cole
Me and my husband both are software engineers
Is English your first language?
kfg and PalmaS
Will you help me with something guys? Why don’t you give me a bottle of scotch and a handgun to blow my fucking head off, that red pill over analysis bullshit,
…. Derp
@AR
No
Palma, I’m sure Cole can dig postholes just like a man and lift concrete bags just like a man.
@SJF I just finished “The Way of The Superior Man”. After taking a bath, I thought I better tell you the truth about it. It is not the first use of truth employed to promote a god awful lie. Did the author piggy back his title off Jack Donavan’s “The Way of Men”? This book is the most extreme putrid sick example of using red pill awareness to make blue pill delusions come true that I have ever known. It goes beyond dream girls and children with dynamite. It is supreme fuck goddesses of the universe and sniveling sissies with… Read more »
@ASD:
She can program that (and never mind who keeps the shit running, perhaps she’ll program that too). She’ll have a harder time programming a solution to this:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/offbeat/coyote-urban-string-of-sightings-in-manhattan-this-year/ar-AAbAVxO
The women’s solution appears to be “Well, it’s the new normal I guess, better just get used to it.” At least until enough babies get mauled and they start screaming at men to do something about it.
“Me and my husband both are software engineers”
Sounds like my ex and I.
Doesn’t work.
NBTM
Did the author piggy back his title off Jack Donavan’s “The Way of Men”?
“Way of the superior man” published in 1997.
https://infogalactic.com/info/David_Deida
Jack Donovan’s book came out in 2012.
This book is the most extreme putrid sick example of using red pill awareness to make blue pill delusions come true that I have ever known. It goes beyond dream girls and children with dynamite. It is supreme fuck goddesses of the universe and sniveling sissies with atom bombs.
Good review.
Coyotes don’t pack the same way wolves do, so alpha female coyotes aren’t likely to be a factor.
But they could make a dent in the rat population of uptown Manhattan. Most people won’t catch more than a glimpse of coyotes in Central Park. Well, except in a case of rabies…
Helpful Household Hint: In case of a bite from an animal that may be rabid, rinse/irrigate the wound out with alcohol first, as that kills some of the virus. Then get to a hospital ASAP.
@Palmasailor
I don’t play computer games / console games much anymore, but the new Doom looks pretty interesting.
Can Cole tell burglars to wait while she programs a bot to defend her at 2 a.m.?
For sure, tractors are programmed to follow courses and they can travel right to the property line, but they still need someone inside in case something goes wrong. Someone with muscles and maintenance know-how.
What percent of patents derive from development by women?
If Cole wants to learn how to be good at being a woman, she needs to learn how to follow a man.
By trying to be a man, she will be a 2nd rate woman and a 3rd rate man.
@Anonymous Reader
Thanks for clarifying the publishing dates. I didn’t bother.
“Can Cole tell burglars to wait while she programs a bot to defend her at 2 a.m.?”
Sure, although getting them to comply is a knottier problem.
@NBTM, You sure you weren’t just born this morning? The ideas in TWSM are just tools. How a person uses a tool is up to him. It’s proto-red pill. Meaning that it is not developed red pill. It can be used for Blue, Purple or Red Pill purposes. Operator dependent. And it’s certainly about relationship game. Endorsed by Married Red Pill reddit in the sidebar. Endorsed as one of the best books Goldmund Unleashed has read: https://goldmundunleashed.com/25-of-the-best-books-i-read/#more-5041 Another book that has been a major influence. If you are looking to mature as a man, this book is a must read.… Read more »
“But my street was being dug up today to install a new gas main and there weren’t any women on the team.”
I see women on construction sites all the time – at both ends of the site holding a stop/slow sign.
I’ve never been blue pill, I fully endorse and like red pill. I was fully beta-tized at one point.
I’ve never understood this. There can be BP alphas, but I don’t see how you can be RP and become a beta.
Sure, although getting them to comply is a knottier problem.
I’m sure she can program a solution for that, too.
“The ideas in TWSM are just tools. How a person uses a tool is up to him.” As are robots, even those that are “self directed.” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XFQ24QC/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=jeffjohn03-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06XFQ24QC&linkId=8776ae6783c53f7eebca65018eed2f97 TWSM is a knotty question. I’ve never able to decide whether it’s a crunchy red pill in a chewy New Age bullshit shell or the other way around. “I’ve never been blue pill . . .” This may have been a factor in your being able to extract the crunchy red bits from it. Quite frankly I think a young blue pill boy is more likely to end up kneeling down to worship… Read more »
@SJF
What you are doing with yourself is blatant. You make it blatant with what you write here.
Stop peeking out the tiny crack of your ass. Pull your head OUT of your ass.
“I’m sure she can program a solution for that, too.”
As a first line of defense some programming would be involved in the process. Of course the physical plant would also have to be designed, installed and maintained, which would require some practical knowledge of predator hunting.
SAC does a decent job.
As a first line of defense some programming would be involved in the process.
I was thinking along the lines of a persuader-bot.
@SJF
Oh no!!
Have I stepped out of line by being disgusted with something “Goldman” and “Married Red Pill” endorse?
Have I made a mistake? Should I cower in shame while I cowtow to those authorities?
Or should I think for myself?
Who should I allow to make the decision for me?
“I was thinking along the lines of a persuader-bot.” Same as the coyote problem. It’s difficult, but not insoluble. And it will fail, perhaps in surprising ways. There will always need to be a man with a brain and a gun behind it. Our little code monkey’s idea that 70% of jobs no longer require men isn’t what’s off, it’s her lack of knowledge of what the 30% is, and how critical it is. And the corollary, how worthless (at best) the jobs of most “software engineers” are. We’d be better off if we put 99 44/100 percent of them… Read more »
“I’ve never understood this. There can be BP alphas, but I don’t see how you can be RP and become a beta.” ASD, I was betatized 10 years ago. I took the red pill 5 years ago. @KFG Quite frankly I think a young blue pill boy is more likely to end up kneeling down to worship the pussy of Inanna-Ishtar after reading it. I’m glad you said that. Because that was solipsistically in a blind spot for me. Yes in a blue pill frame, or even a purple pill frame it is indeed dymamite to blow up in your… Read more »
kfg TWSM is a knotty question. I’ve never able to decide whether it’s a crunchy red pill in a chewy New Age bullshit shell or the other way around. Greenberg was born in the late 1950’s, at the trailing end of the Baby Boom. His reference experiences would have been early in the 2nd stage of feminism (60’s through 80’s) when a man could be pretty blue pill yet still get laid, even married. We see this all the time via TradCons who got married back when Reagan was President, who are convinced that “it worked for me, it’ll work… Read more »
“The PragerU nonsense that can’t accept 1980 is way in the past.”
And the 1980’s were built on a fantasy-mythical version of the 1950’s that never was.
” . . . ‘women never lie”
They’re just “differently factually abled.”
Civilization literally collapsing:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/08/14/bridge-collapses-in-italy-during-heavy-storm-crushing-cars.html
“. . . authorities suspected that a structural weakness caused the collapse . . .”
Ya think?
It’s just a bridge collapsing. Reminds me of Thornton Wilder’s The Bridge of San Luis Rey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_of_San_Luis_Rey “Brother Juniper’s fate thus offers an insight into the second great theme of the book, the theme recognized and acclaimed by many readers and critics: the theme of love. What is love, and why does it matter to human life? These are the unspoken questions that drive the bulk of Wilder’s narrative. Some of the characters learn new lessons about love. The Marquesa, for instance, discovers that love demands courage. Esteban discovers that love is never reciprocated perfectly in this world, as well… Read more »
“Alpha” female feminist at NYU?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/13/nyregion/sexual-harassment-nyu-female-professor.html
“A friar who has witnessed the accident then goes about inquiring into the lives of the victims, seeking some sort of cosmic answer to the question of why each had to die.”
Because they were crossing a bridge built and maintained by a fallen civilization.
” . . . ‘women never lie” “They’re just “differently factually abled.” “Keeping your word” is a masculine trait, in men or women. A person with a feminine essence may not keep her word, yet it is not exactly “lying.” In the feminine reality, words and facts take a second place to emotions and the shifting moods of relationship. When she says, “I hate you,” or “I’ll never move to Texas,” or “I don’t want to go to the movies,” it is often more a reflection of a transient feeling-wave than a well considered stance with respect to events and… Read more »
And the corollary, how worthless (at best) the jobs of most “software engineers” are. We’d be better off if we put 99 44/100 percent of them on the space ship with the phone sanitizers.
Hey them’s fightn’ words… I’m sure the marketers would object
“… I’m sure the marketers would object”
We’ve got the Bill Hicks Plan for them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0
We’ll find something else that Rollo can make a living from.
“Mr. Reitman is gay and is now married to a man; Professor Ronell is a lesbian.
…
Professor Ronell, 66, denied any harassment. “Our communications — which Reitman now claims constituted sexual harassment — were between two adults, a gay man and a queer woman, who share an Israeli heritage, as well as a penchant for florid and campy communications arising from our common academic backgrounds and sensibilities,” ”
Sooooo many lols…
?quality=90&auto=webp
Of course for her bio she has a picture that is 40 years old… Not what she looks like now.
https://as.nyu.edu/content/nyu-as/as/faculty/avital-ronell.html
Hahaha hahaha… The truth finds a way out.
PS – I’d say 50% of professional women have a pic at least 10 years old in their bio…
@cole why would you care?
Hey folks, been away awhile, assembling EDM mixtapes from the Situation Room for my BFF Alex Torchin (pro tip: music beds by that guy Avicii blend in well, plus he can’t sue, he topped himself). Woulda made more of ’em, too, but this old bint came bangin’ on my door cryin’ her power was off and could she stay the night… Thanks to AR for posting the NYU story when #MeToo Eats Its Own… The first delicious irony is the yada yada defenses by Ronell’s supporters: why’d Reitman wait so long to complain? He’s just looking to drag her down!… Read more »
” . . . Judith Butler who complains: #MeToo is a feminist tool – invented and modeled by feminism! It is NOT to be turned around and used against feminists!”
Rule #4: good and hard.
Why conceal? Evidence for concealed sex by dominant Arabian babblers
https://bit.ly/2MvuREO
The effect of manager mobbing behaviour on female employees’ quality of life
https://bit.ly/2MNSfKW
Angels and demons: The effect of ethical leadership on Machiavellian employees’ work behaviors.
https://bit.ly/2KRJzRW
“The effect of manager mobbing behaviour on female employees’ quality of life”
Abstract:
Bad jobs suck. Women implicitly presumed to be most effected.
Self Motives and leadership
https://bit.ly/2OD3HJH
Is human brain masculinization estrogen receptor-mediated?
https://bit.ly/2MfL41J
Why Does It Feel So Good to Care for Others and for Myself?: Neuroendocrinology and Prosocial Behavior
https://bit.ly/2Bb8uAc (leadership and compliments) Lead/follow
Primate social attention: Species differences and effects of individual experience in humans, great apes, and macaques
https://bit.ly/2P9jYHf
Can fiction make us kinder to other species? The impact of fiction on pro-animal attitudes and behavior
https://bit.ly/2MrybAM
Biological Clocks and Rhythms of Anger and Aggression
https://bit.ly/2vGdKGQ
off to shoot a picture
@ Cole: regarding your comment about women in the military; just because they are there (in the military) does not mean they are making things better. As a 20+ year veteran of the military, and based on my own experiences, women’s impact has been minimal. They have not improved force readiness or the ability to win wars. Well, why are they there you ask? Benefits of course like most. Beyond that, when you ask deeper questions, you get blank stares. I saw some of this in the run up to the first Gulf War. All those ‘hard chargin'” feminist were… Read more »
“Equality/equalism is for idiots. ”
I think Rollo should write more about the Equalist aspect of feminism. This is the Mother of Lies.
Re Alpha women, ain’t nuttin’ gonna make a 2 a 10… We know it and they know it. So they push the false narrative of achievement or inclusion…
I remember Gertrude Ederle and Beryl Burton, not just because they were women, but because they won, on a fair field and on their day were simply the best (they didn’t simply win an event against some men, they broke the overall record). Even if I throw in Danica Patrick and give honorable mentions to Janet Guthrie, Shauna Hogan and Chrissie Wellington it’s a short list. If a woman wants to earn as much as the men at Wimbledon, I say fine, let her step up and take her shot at it. But I bet there will be shortage of… Read more »
@ women who troll male spaces in the pursuit of “attention please!” a.k.a. Cole
Your existential indignation of online comments that you and your ilk define vile are exactly why the female intellect is unfit for military setvice let alone here.
You’re oblivious to your mental and physical frailty.
That’s o.k. as the western world is using you and the sisterhood as cheap labor. Tool.
” . . . the western world is using you and the sisterhood as cheap labor . . .”
. . . and taking your children.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4389760/USA-women-s-team-suffer-5-2-loss-FC-Dallas-U-15-boys.html
This has happend numerous times… Not a one off.
Sentient
This has happend numerous times… Not a one off.
Coach must not be an Alpha female…or not alpha enough.
SJF has proven in this thread how any and all forms of commitment to a woman are intrinsically linked with weak ass self-abdicating appeals to authority (goldman? holy shit what a fraud. guy constantly says he’s rich but when drunk once admitted he only makes 2K a month on twitter.) In the last blog comment section,Handmade told ya’ll all there is to know about the zero value proposition that is the monogamous LTR. And he laid bare the mental contortions blue/purple pill guys go through to justify their volitional commitment to an organism who is literally attacking them with every… Read more »
Jesus. Rollo ya gotta fix the image posting thing.
Grow up Joe. Learn. Women ain’t much like men. When it comes to an LTR with you no woman will bring much value, because you don’t have much value to bring yourself.
A shit test is No Big Deal for a man. For a boy, it’s HUUUUUGE!!!
Grow up.
Joe K
Rollo you’ve been falling all over yourself to maintain an ideological distance from MGTOWs
MGTOW is an ideology?
No one is “proposing” monogamous LTR.
No one is “proposing” marriage is a way to go prospectively.
Some of us favor staying married and being red pill.
https://therationalmale.com/2016/07/18/are-you-experienced/comment-page-9/#comment-164864
C’mon guys. Y’all know deep down that girls are meanie-meanies, not to mention the whole ” Kooties ” thing.
Don’t y’all remember anything from adolescence?
Off Topic kind of – I have a friend that decided to read the Bible, as I challenged him as a ” Christian man ” to Read the book his religion is based on, and not take the Man in the Pulpit’s word for anything in particular. It took him forever. It bored him to tears. He only made it through most of The Old Testament. ( Never read ” the words ” of Christ…lol ). His take? It’s all about land, birthright ( inheritance ) and building wealth and fighting to take others wealth and land. I shit you… Read more »
I’m not sure anyone in the first world under sixty can really understand how separate the lives of men and women really used to be:
Blax, thinking back about it, I’m feeling really pleased because I didn’t feel awkward the last time a broad started bumping me. Feeling awkward about a girl showing me affection has been par for the course for me for a long time. Autism thing. Finally, I accepted the PDA as normal behavior. It’s a step in the right direction for me.
As long as I have Camille on the line:
Equality cannot mean that men and women are the same. This is because men and women simply are not the same. Yet some want to believe that men and women correspond so closely as to be indistinguishable. They disrespect the real differences between men and women. When you point this truth out, they immediately resort to the argument that they are not pretending that men and women are the same (immediately after blatantly pretending that they essentially are). They then claim that they have always supported equal “opportunity” and equal “respect”, instead of promoting the idea that women and men… Read more »
Third time is the charm?:
“It’s all about land, birthright ( inheritance ) and building wealth and fighting to take others wealth and land.”
That is precisely what it is about. And so is the con job in the second half!
I shit you not.