Dangerous Times – Part 2

The fulfillment of your own sexuality is nothing less than your battle for existence. – Pook

If you’ve been wondering what I’ve been doing lately over the past week I took it upon myself to read through the 7,000 word short story “Cat Person” that’s recently gone viral. The author, 36 year old Kristen Roupenian, was also offered a one million dollar book deal to expand the story even further. You too can read the whole thing if you have the stomach, but it reads every bit like the passive-aggressive indirection I’d expected it would coming from a less-than Hypergamously satisfied woman who’s well past the Wall. Rather than craft a concrete article about her own inner conflict (and by association all women’s conflict) of having ‘inconvenient’ casual sex, she thought she wanted, we get an overwritten fiction that sock-puppets herself as the main character.

If this book does publish, trust me, it wont be a new 50 Shades of Grey. Cat Person  resonates with women today because we now live in the #MeToo era of moral panic inspired by the same Future is Female outrage brokers who brought us pink pussy knitted caps and the women’s march in the wake of Hillary Clinton’s defeat. I decided to split this series of essays into two parts because at this moment in history we are beginning to see the culmination of the predictions I alluded to in my essay, The Political is Personal. We are seeing, in real time, just how a feminine-primary social order and a growing female supremacism consolidates its power. But as I outlined in that essay, this power is always predicated on the hope of ensuring the largest pool of women are legally and socially entitled to the unquestioned, and unmerited, optimization of Hypergamy.

Any man with a Red Pill Lens reading through Cat Person will easily pick out the social conventions and rationalizations unique to women’s ‘hamstering’ (“Flirting with her customers was a habit she’d picked up back when she worked as a barista, and it helped with tips.”) that the manosphere has been picking apart for almost two decades now. And, like most women, the female readership find nothing inconsistent or conflicting about any of it. Roupenian breezes through the ins and outs of women’s sexual pluralism and the differences between transactional (Beta) and validational (Alpha) sex without so much as an afterthought – and her readers eat it up with the same solipsism.

However, the overarching concern for women about this story is the issue of the newly coined term “enthusiastic consent”. Our poor Margot (the main character and proxy for the author, and ultimately all women) is torn up by a casual sexual encounter that at first she thought she wanted, but later, even after giving the guy the green light to have sex with her, she loses enthusiasm to bang him. Yet, not to be rude or to create an uncomfortable scene, she goes through with the inconvenient, lack luster, sex because it was easier to say yes than to say no.

There are other names for this kind of sex: gray zone sex, in reference to that murky gray area of consent; begrudgingly consensual sex, because, you know, you don’t really want to do it but it’s probably easier to just get it over with; lukewarm sex, because you’re kind of “meh” about it; and, of course, bad sex, where the “bad” refers not to the perceived pleasure of it, but to the way you feel in the aftermath.

Essentially, this shift from Yes Means Yes consent to Enthusiastic Consent ask the last questions in women’s social consolidation of Hypergamy:

“Must I still have to have transactional sex with Betas if all my provisional needs are more or less met?”

“If I’m an ’empowered’ woman, am I not entitled to the sex I want to have with Alpha men that validate both my hindbrain and my ego?”

“Can transactional sex with Betas be used as leverage to extort resources from them at any future date by redefining that undesired sex as ‘rape’?”

Curb Your “Enthusiasm”

The reason I believe that Roupenian’s future book will fall flat is because the viral conversation her short story elicits is about a new terminology that the Feminine Imperative hopes to insert into the public sphere – that of ‘enthusiastic consent‘ being the only legitimate form of consent a woman can give a man. Anything less than genuine enthusiasm (however this is arbitrarily defined by women) is at best illegitimate consent and at worst rape – even if every indicator a woman gives a man prior to, during and after sex says ‘yes’ she still means ‘no’ and, as we’ll see here, it will be incumbent on that man to be an adequate mindreader and sexual evaluator to determine her real degree of ‘enthusiasm’ both in the moment and into the future.

There’s a lot to unpack here, but I wanted to begin with a comment I received last week:

If you read feminist literature, the intent behind “enthusiastic consent” seems to have good intentions. Its based on the following purported beliefs:

  • That there is a huge incidence of coerced sex and sexual contact, which is mostly inadvertent rather than malicious. The best way to correct this is to teach men the principles of EC. 
  • That the idea of a sharp Alpha/Beta divide in men’s sexual attractiveness is a myth propagated by the misogynistic Right. Furthermore, girls and women have a realistic idea of their own SMV and will be attracted to their male equivalent.

Thus, feminists believe a free sexual market will see assortive mating with both men and women being able to get a similar amount of sex. This is why when men complain of the difficulty of getting sex, many women will retort that it must be because they are only chasing “supermodels”.

Look at Charlie Rose, is this a man with any Red Pill at all? Giving shoulder rubs to office girls, showing porn to a couple, this is all high school Beta stuff. But he had a TV show that lots of famous people wanted to get on. Clearly Beta-ized, but a situational Alpha. In my not so humble opinion most of the #MeToo girls are going after former situational Alphas because they turned out to be Blue Pill Beta after all…they feel cheated, and are just so sure that all the other girls got to ride a real Alpha pony on the carousel, so the fury comes out.

The ‘enthusiastic’ consent social push we are just on the cusp of today is the next progression in the larger goal of feminism – removing all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality. ‘Enthusiastic consent’ will be the raison d’etat for the legislation leading to the outlawing of any form of male sexual expression.

From The Political is Personal:

The inherent insecurity that optimizing Hypergamy poses to women is so imperative, so all-consuming, to their psychological wellbeing that establishing complex social orders to facilitate that optimization were the first things women collectively constructed when they were (nominally) emancipated from men’s provisioning around the time of the sexual revolution.

Ensuring the optimization of women’s biologically prompted Hypergamy is literally the basis of our current social order. On a socio-political scale what we’re experiencing is legislation and cultural mandates that better facilitate Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks.

[…]As Open Hypergamy becomes more institutionalized and made a societal norm by the Feminine Imperative, and as more men become Red Pill aware (by effort or consequences) because of it, the more necessary it will become for a feminine-primary social order to legislate and mandate men comply with it.

As much as I’d like to believe that normalizing ‘enthusiastic consent’ may lead to women overplaying their hand, I have to consider how the specificity of defining consent will also redefine past sexual norms and intersexual dynamics; not just among single individuals having loosely defined “consensual” sex, but also married couples and how sex (or lack thereof) defines their relationships. As if the men of today needed one more reason to be wary of marriage and how it will eventually affect their sex lives, now we can add the potential for ‘marital rape’ accusations based on EC (enthusiastic consent) to that list; and all in light of women’s less than enthusiastic response to any of her husband’s advances. God forbid a mewling Beta pouts his way into this grey zone ‘duty sex’ with his unenthusiastic wife.

What were witnessing here is the insertion of college campus consent laws into Marriage 2.0, and as designed its intent is to further disrupt marriage and family. Even in the old books presumptions about marriage a man could expect his commitment to a wife and family meant a plenary exchange of sexual access. But when enthusiastic consent is a prerequisite for legitimizing sexual encounters, anything resembling a woman’s putting out duty sex for her husband, even starfish lack luster obligatory sex is defined as rape.

I got the following comment from last week’s Red Pill Reddit forum repost:

The fundamental driver is removal of female responsibility for her actions, pushing all responsibility onto men. Whatever happens between a man and a woman, women universally agree that the man is to blame for any and all results, including her subsequent regret.

Responsibility used to be on women to say “no” if she wanted to claim rape. This responsibility has been removed. No longer does she have to verbalise lack of consent. No longer does she even have to verbalise actual consent. She can decide after the fact…. years after the fact…. whether her consent was in fact enthusiastic enough, and she can base that on her future feelings. “But did you enthusiastically scream yes?” her friends will ask, which is more than the police or the public will subsequently ask of her.

Women side with women. Whiteknights, weak Betas and naive Blue Pill fools side with women. Everyone agrees women are right and men are wrong.

And this is the intended result: women are not to be held responsible for their actions. They are not to be held responsible at any cost – including the destruction of male lives.

I presented this point in Men and Suicide, but just to recap, on a subconscious level women will always seek to absolve themselves of complicity in men’s personal destruction. This extends from destroying mens lives due to regrets over not optimizing Hypergamy, to any concern over men committing suicide. At present, women are attempting to reconcile ‘bad sex’ with ‘inconvenient sex’ they have in spite of themselves. However, the same absolution of any inherent complicity in this ‘transactional’ sex ends with blaming men for women’s lack of agency or self-moderation:

Bad sex isn’t even necessarily coercive. I’m talking about having a sexual encounter you don’t want to have because in the moment it seems easier to get it over with than it would be to extricate yourself.

Young women say yes to sex they don’t actually want to have all of the time. Why? Because we condition young women to feel guilty if they change their mind. After all, you’ve already made it back to his place, or you’re already on the bed, or you’ve already taken off your clothes, or you’ve already said yes. Do you really want to have an awkward conversation about why you want to stop? What if it hurts his feelings? What if it ruins the relationship? What if you seem like a bitch?

The problem in this rationale isn’t about women changing their mind or feeling guilty – those are excuses for male-initiated victimhood for women and absolve women’s complicity – rather, the focus should be on the fact that women going through with this type of sex presently have the option to ruin a man’s life at any future date by defining it as ‘unwanted sex’. Ella Dawson may not want to conflate transactional, Beta sex as rape, but that’s where this conversation is leading us to.

Is it OK for Alpha Males?

I apologize for forgetting who it was that sent me this link, but the present day #MeToo moral panic combined with notions of “enthusiastic consent” and a resulting atmosphere of fear in intersexual dynamics was predicted as far back as 2004, and by a woman no less:

Sexual harassment is a crime committed by beta-males who think they can get away with alpha behavior. But that is a distinction too delicate for the blunt instrument of the law. How do you explain to a judge why one man’s comedy is another man’s bone-chilling lechery? And can we really expect the beta-males themselves to understand the difference?

I found this article very prescient about our present moral panic. In the last two posts I’ve made the case that what were finally seeing on a social scale is the consolidation of women’s entitlement to an almost socialistic guarantee of optimized Hypergamy. Through any number of direct and indirect institutions we’ve now virtually guaranteed women a right to Beta men’s resources, protection and provisioning as well as a dominant social status above them both at home and in the workplace. Whether overtly or covertly, women dominate Beta men; the last piece of consolidating Hypergamy is then the (at least partial) control of Alpha Fucks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7kpmwa/dangerous_times_part_1/drhirym/

As we move into 2018 – an era to be defined even more thoroughly by the Future is Female, #MeToo and Enthusiastic Consent – I believe we’ll see a push for the following:

  • Sexual harassment will indeed be a crime committed by Beta males who fail at a convincing ‘Alpha’ behavior. As such the push will be to get Beta men to self-police their behavior via fear. There will be a doubling down on the part of Blue Pill White Knights and ‘Feminist Allies’ in the wake of the social and legal options women will have to be believed of men’s sexual misconduct allegations by default. Feminized men will “try harder” and rat out their rivals for any hint of misconduct in an Orwellian effort to be more appealing and identifying with women.
  • Only confident Alpha men, or men well versed in Game, will be allowed to approach women from a perspective of social acceptability. However, even then it will be a woman’s prerogative to later define that approach or subsequent interaction as harassment if that Alpha doesn’t comply with a woman’s long term security needs, provisioning and parental investment ‘entitlements’. The latent purpose of a suspension of the statutes of limitation for sexual harassment will center on locking down (perceptually) Alpha men in a long term relationship.
  • This new feminine-primary sexual paradigm will further limit Beta men’s sexual access and increase reproduction stress in the few Beta men who don’t pragmatically drop out of the sexual marketplace altogether. This will also reinforce boys/men’s conditioning of loathing their own gender. They will be taught to accept this feminine-primary sexual strategy, as well as the legal restrictions  on his power of choice and his life’s direction as the societal norm.
  • Legal mandates and societal mores will directly and indirectly ensure Beta men’s compliance in all aspects of parental investment in children he was not biologically responsible for, as well as women’s long term security.

Now, more than ever it is imperative that men become Red Pill awakened and see the writing on the wall with a Red Pill Lens. All of this may seem horribly unavoidable, but let me emphasize, it’s not for men who are aware of, and have internalized intersexual dynamics and can plan accordingly.

In the last installment of this series I’ll be delving into some of the larger socio-sexual implications of where we find ourselves today and where I see present day intersexual relations leading us in a larger scale as well as what Red Pill men can do to win at whats becoming a very dangerous game.

 

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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“Yellling “Just open your eyes!” at someone who has been blindfolded might not work out all that well.” I understand fully, but sometimes you have to get their attention first. I don’t care for it, but there are a lot of things I don’t care for that aren’t going to go away. Speaking of which, our Eagle is basing a good deal of his “argument” on the Fallacy of Undesirable Consequences, without even properly defining the consequences. As I have a great grandfather who emigrated to the US from Romania, the Eagle and I are relatively close relatives. Go back… Read more »

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“compared to how the world is going to treat these young men if I can’t get them to open their eyes.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dELhVMET3E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaXFFmCyPw8

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“Unfortunately I dont have the necessary time to continue this conversation”

@AR

And that’s my point. He wasn’t interested in change, resisted real help. Remember who disagreed with my tie her up comment? It was Mitch. Some paragon of good faith…

Anyone coming in good faith, receives good faith. Vulturul wasn’t interested in change. I was and am and shun no one who does that.

That’s what TRM does. Iron sharpens iron.

You do you, AR. But if I did you, I’d still be dithering.

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Palma

Can you imaging the THOUSANDS of matches she must get..

I can’t imagine one. For real.

WNB

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Thanks rugby, I’ll listen on my ride home.

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“I never wanted to start a fight or to argue with anybody here, I was simply trying to make my point understood. I dont know if I succeded.”

You succeeded the first time,getting your point across very well.
This doesn’t make your point valid,only understood.

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Palma, these pix of your Tinder “babe” could easily be Photoshop. I’m pretty adept at using the program, it’s not hard.

Try doing a Google reverse image search and see if you find her/it on the Interwebs for images that are more normal. Those mountain peak tits would give your hands and fingers frostbite.

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Also, nothing says “I’m a catfish” like a sign that says “I’m not a catfish”

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@AR: “How many high school aged young men have you spent time with lately? ” A supermajority of the people I socialize with are high school or college kids. I find most people my age boring as fuck. I have tried to explain what their kids are going through to some of them, but most of them refuse to open their eyes and see it. But it’s the primary school kids you should really be looking at now. They’re getting it with both barrels starting from kindergarten (or before if they watch Steven Universe). Like the kids born into the… Read more »

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@Boulderhead:

People with an idée fixe are prone to believe that if you don’t validate their idea you didn’t understand it.

Why does Albert suddenly come to mind?

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[…] Rollo observes in Dangerous Times Part 2, the new standard of enthusiastic consent will not just be applied to casual sex, but to sex within […]

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“Why does Albert suddenly come to mind?” I see Albert as on a fishing expedition, Stating untruths intentionally worded to appear innocent and naive. The one thing they have in common is arrogant intellectual superiority syndrome AISS, similar to intellectually superior judgmental. Hence Alberts need to throw his study in every ones face, as if he pulled his own covers when he was suspect the whole time. The main reason Vulturul hitched on to AR was his agreeable confirmation of societal collapse. AR confirmed one aspect of his theory thereby confirming his theoretical identity( self esteem) giving him a participation… Read more »

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All I know is that the beach ball titted chick palma posted made my T levels drop by 100 ng/dl.

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You can tell they are heavy by the way she holds her arms back, also the strain appears to pull one eye into a seeming lazy position necessitating a photo angle from the left side only.

Palma don’t look at the wrong eye, or the scars in her tit pits whatever you do. If you GET THE DATE invest in a pair of dark glasses and a white cane.

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invest in a pair of dark glasses and a white cane.

LOL. West Indian Archie has a blog entry about this… Blind Game.

http://www.westindianarchie.com/blind-game/

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@AR I get exactly what your saying re: Young dudes, but I still feel that it’s all very relative, in that if they’ve been exposed to all of the negativity practically since birth, it would only be natural for them to actively seek out alternatives and TEST them for voracity. The previous generation of men prior to mine, those cats came up under horrendous socially mandated conditions where their masculinity was practically outlawed, sometimes under penalty of death or imprisonment, and they managed to maintain and hold onto their core selves and teach future generations. That’s why I’m a bit… Read more »

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@Blaximus,

I’m not following. How was masculinity practically outlawed in previous generations? My estimation is that it has never been worse than it is right now.

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@ITTO:

The song John Henry is about a man defending his masculinity, because his masculinity was the ONLY thing society allowed him to have. He won, but it killed him.

That was in the late 19th century and it was a long time before one of them won again. The Black Swallow of Death had to join the French forces to become an “American” fighter pilot.

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“My estimation is that it has never been worse than it is right now.”

https://www.artofmanliness.com/2010/01/07/the-civilian-conservation-corps-training-a-generation-in-manliness/

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” I’m not following. How was masculinity practically outlawed in previous generations? My estimation is that it has never been worse than it is right now.”

Without going into a long and drawn out explanation about ” the past ” , I’ll just say that things are bad now, but there are examples of things being much, much worse.

I was born just as shit was simmering down ( because ” communists ” … lol ), but actual laws and penalties were live on the books that for all intents and purposes outlawed masculinity in any manner or display.

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Enter ASD, stage right.

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If you are talking about laws that kept men on the plantation so to speak, I’m aware of those, but they kept men locked in a masculine “provider” paradigm. I think it is in Sweden where parliament is considering rules that require men to sit down when they pee. I don’t think the world has seen anything like that in the past.

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Blaxamus,

You’d be the same guy more or less born into African princehood.

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All I know is that the beach ball titted chick palma posted made my T levels drop by 100 ng/dl.

Naturally, since there’s a good chance that is a Bennie Boy. Seriously, that may be a dude/tranny, and way older than 33.

Palmasailor – don’t go in there without backup.

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rugby,

listened to first Peterson vid.

Favorite line: Listening to those who “offer only a path to martyrdom…”

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Just a quick comment. Last week I got some good news from friends of the family about their ordinary, high school student, son. Back in 2016 their ordinary son was in the parking lot at high school when some bully wannabe tried to start a fight. A couple of the dedicated security guards on Segway scooters rolled up and immediately the Zero Tolerance started. The on-duty city cop was called in. All parties were separated, searched then the car searches began. In the vehicle driven by ordinary son, a toolbox was found. Deep in that toolbox some sort of knife… Read more »

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Maybe all this lockdown and shaming of boy’s sexuality is so that the female teachers can have them all to themselves?

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/notorious-teacher-sex-scandals/01/?ftag=ACQb72972c&vndid=00adb2291287be5b0b48289a0505cb5c29

Every day the Daily Mail seems to have a new one on their site…. Today for example:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5256231/Teacher-37-sued-arrested-sex-school.html

Interesting how many of these women are married, many with children of their own.

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” Your reference experiences are different, it is true. Not due to anything that the young men have done, necessarily, but due to a massive system imposed on them from above. Y’all might bear that in mind. Think back to your own high school years, and ponder what your life under Zero Tolerance would have been like. ” AR, I grew up under Zero Tolerance as far as the cops were concerned. That’s one reason I learned to fight – because carrying any kind of weapon was going to come with as stiff a penalty as possible, later under threat… Read more »

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Rarely pays to be ordinary.

You might turn your reading goggles to Bonfire of the Vanities too… Explains what happens when you get caught up in Teh System. And how to overcome.

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I not only remember knives in school, but squirrel guns, perhaps for Show and Tell, or just so you wouldn’t have to go home for it after school.

More recently, however, under zero tolerance, I have been rousted for being in a school zone open carrying a . . . violin bow. The fully armored cop was very twitchy until I put it on the ground and backed away from it. He did at least seem to accept that I couldn’t use the force to “set it off.”

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In 4th grade, I was accosted by an older bus stop bully. I had a pocket knife on me my grandfather gave me. So i pulled it out and threatened to cut him to pieces. He settled down and we all got on the bus. Took a few hours for this story to circulate round the school. Post lunch the Principal came calling. Had to go to his office. Sit on the transgressors bench for an hour or so till he called me in. We had an interesting if short chat. It ended with him keepimg my knife. Went home… Read more »

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@ EhIntellect Cheers, man. I’m back in the saddle, feeling fit, focused and free. Just listened to the lecture on Marcus Aurelius (i bought Meditations after Christian McQueen recommend when i subscribed briefly to his podcasts) that Rugby posted, then sent it on to a few peeps. Just had a free ticket offer to cool festival in semi-tropical S-E Queensland in northern Oz from a chick who is keen on me, but had to knock her back as too busy to party & can’t really afford to waste the $ at this stage. I only want to do these festivals… Read more »

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“Y’all might bear that in mind.” @AR What do you think just happened to me? Ya hear me lamenting the system, FFS? Jail, police, lawyers and $10K++. Are you that clueless that I’m only in this for snark value? How does turning the mirror away from me help me? Shall I go outside and shake my fists at the heavens too? What’s the use? I’m not being dragged through the system, you know. I do have a choices in and out of court and plan to make the best of both. That experience is mine and how I react and… Read more »

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“In the last installment of this series I’ll be delving into some of the larger socio-sexual implications…”

How can the last installment NOT delve into THIS?

“All of this may seem horribly unavoidable, but let me emphasize, it’s not for men who are aware of, and have internalized intersexual dynamics and can plan accordingly.”

I realize one could make the valid argument that the entire site address this, but if you’re going to paint the danger in 3-4 posts, surely the defense deserves some sort of elaboration beyond a simple statement that it’s possible via RP knowledge.

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Time to catch up. Vulturul de Veghe Of course that studies conducted in recent years show that imbalance in sexual marketplace. After all they were conducted in an environment with low quality men due to T levels dropping, blue pilled views of life, no game, feminist brainwashing and white-knight. But again, thats not the natural order of things. Without those external interventions we would have a completely different sexual marketplace. An easy assumption to make, but just wrong. The 80 / 20 attraction ratio grows out of female hypergamy. Search this very site for the word hypergamy. Real anthropology -not… Read more »

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Blaximus If I was in an awful car accident and was rushed to the hospital all mangled and bloody and near death, I don’t want a trauma surgeon to just look at me and agree that I’m all fucked up and will probably die, I want him to roll up his sleeves and get dirty to try and save me, and I won’t feel too badly when he has to tell me that he couldn’t save my leg(s) or that I’ll have a droopy eye for the rest of my life. Sure, but what if that surgeon looks at you… Read more »

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Unfortunately I dont have the necessary time to continue this conversation
I never wanted to start a fight or to argue with anybody here, I was simply trying to make my point understood. I dont know if I succeded.

Wander back some time. Rollo gets linked to from various countries, add Romania to the list.

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EhIntellect And that’s my point. He wasn’t interested in change, resisted real help. Maybe. Hard to say, given the cultural and linquistic gap. I’ve only known a couple of Romanians so … no opinion. Remember who disagreed with my tie her up comment? It was Mitch. Some paragon of good faith… C’mon, it was better than that. Mitch told you to dial back on the porn! Clueless…that was comedy gold. I don’t put this driveby in the same category, because unlike Mitch we didn’t get the stubborn denial. Unlike “Albert” there was / is no bot-like quality. We’ll see. I… Read more »

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Nothing says “I’m a catfish” like a sign that says “I’m not a catfish”

Second place to Dr. Zipper.

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Blaximus AR, I grew up under Zero Tolerance as far as the cops were concerned. That’s one reason I learned to fight – because carrying any kind of weapon was going to come with as stiff a penalty as possible, later under threat to be bargained down to a ” lesser offense “. That’s been the S.O.P for over 20-25 years now, the plea bargain for No real crime . Understood. But…did you have to sit still through endless brainwashing from people just like you, on top of all that? It really is like something out of Mao’s China. On… Read more »

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Like the kids born into the Cultural Revolution, an awful lot of them are going to come out with brains fucked beyond unfucking.

Yes.

And their parents are, for the most part, clueless.

Completely. Boomers and X’rs can’t understand why the younger Millennials & Gen Z’s despise them, either.

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…violin bow. The fully armored cop was very twitchy until I put it on the ground and backed away from it.

I have no problem believing this. Unfortunately.

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In 4th grade, I was accosted by an older bus stop bully.

Cool story, bro. What part of “It’s not the 1970’s, it’s 2018” did you fail to understand?

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I’m also getting into the routine of a focused daily physical work-out which has its obvious benefits.

That’s good. No mattter the age, that’s good. Even sedentary men in their 60’s benefit in measurable ways from serious exercise (HIT in particular); specifically the heart is improved. Link later.

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What do you think just happened to me? Ya hear me lamenting the system, FFS? Jail, police, lawyers and $10K++.

Are you that clueless that I’m only in this for snark value?

You are not a 17 year old who has been told all his life “The police are your friends”, either.

Just suggesting a little self restraint before jumping all over some 20-something blue-pilled average man who has been brainwashed for most of his life with feminist cowshit, who literally doesn’t know anything else.

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I started a small farm a few years back. The older Boomer generation farmers take a great deal of pride in watching new guys fail. They love to stroll over after something has gone wrong and say “If you would have asked, I would have told you not to do that.” Gen-X and younger farmers love to share information. They give you a heads up if they think you might be screwing up, or they will sit and talk with you a while about things they have tried that didn’t work. Mind you, they don’t do your work for you,… Read more »

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ITTO,

“They love to stroll over after something has gone wrong and say “If you would have asked, I would have told you not to do that.”

I get that. As a young guy you’re a threat to a lifetime of ego investments. They want you to fail for their own emotional succor.

Guaranteed you didn’t go about “Hey old man! What do you know about farming? I’ve got a better way and now I demand you listen to me, recognize me!

Not so here. It’s rough and we gave that guy comity aplenty until he choose to amplify the rhetoric.

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@ AR At times I struggle with the thought that most people were taught that the police are your friends when the majority of my experiences with cops have been so negative. It almost angers me. Even currently, no matter how much evidence to the contrary has been presented over decades, and even more so since cams and cell phones, people still say that no matter what, law enforcement must be respected, and basically that they do no wrong. So to my way of thinking, I have no true sympathy for people that run afoul of police and get fucked… Read more »

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Felonies are being handed out like lollipops.

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@kfg
Thanks, that’s one of the best Peanuts ever.
With Vulturul on board I was also thinking about the ones where Snoopy’s atop the doghouse pretending to be a vulture

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“Just suggesting a little self restraint before jumping all over some 20-something blue-pilled average man who has been brainwashed for most of his life with feminist cowshit, who literally doesn’t know anything else.” @AR This isn’t about him, it’s about you and your cloistered, atop my perch, owlish attitude raining down sanctimonious RP tautology that Rollo stated well enough already. You aligned with that fella just a little and….read for yourself how he described you, AR. The most reasonable one here. Really? Do you really want to be yoked with that left-handed blessing from that guy? Have some self-respect. If… Read more »

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AR oh boy… The kind of overthinkers who “journal”, sitting in a coffee joint oblivious to the cute college girls one table over. Pot to kettle… Go bust a move. Rarely pays to be ordinary. So? Did you miss the point? You had a point, other than the usual from you secondhand retelling of how hard everything is in Teh Current Year? Cool story, bro. What part of “It’s not the 1970’s, it’s 2018” did you fail to understand? You have trouble with abstract thinking… You are not a 17 year old who has been told all his life “The… Read more »

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K.

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I assume your kids got a pretty good lesson over your misfortune with Johnny Law, no?

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Oh yeah.

They’re not afraid but know the score. Cops are there to protect cops interests. But that night provided and subsequent legal matters the provided huge lessons on how to deal with missteps, how NOT TO PANIC, not projecting blame, keeping perspective and why an ounce of prevention is worth the time….oh and confirming their Dad is occasionally unhinged.

My son, just after me entering the house post jail: “Well, Dad. You can check that off your bucket list.”

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I’m just not capable of babying and/or coddling anyone with a penis and testicles beyond the age of 12. This drive to ” protect ” young men is hurting them more than it’s helping. One of the tasks included in the journey to adulthood for males, is finding out the truth as it relates to their lives. The tendency to treat guys the same way girls are treated in society/culture? That’s some wrongheaded equalist bullshit right there. Men/boys are different from girls/women, and they need some toughness and attitude in life because they don’t have pussies. No matter what a… Read more »

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kfg upping the abstraction stakes… I mean, those squirrels aren’t even eating pine cones…!

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Gen-X and younger farmers love to share information. They are know it alls, just like all skulls fulla mush. Probably try to teach the old farmers, too. The judgment centers of the male brain don’t mature until age 24…then it takes about 4-6 years to break them in and get enough data so that they are actually a little useful around age 30. Why don’t young guys get much respect? Blax, not everyone has traveled down your road, just like not everyone has traveled down mine. I heard that a city mayor, city attorney, and city chief of police had… Read more »

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” . . . those squirrels aren’t even eating pine cones…! ”

That’s in the prequels and novelizations. Buy more merch, Scrb.

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Scrb=Scrub. AFK troubles.

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“Sentient” You had a point, other than the usual from you secondhand retelling of how hard everything is in Teh Current Year? Yes, but it went over your head because you are a little short for some rides. I’ll spell it out a little bit: “Ordinary son” was just a label. I could label him “special son” or “extraordinary son” and his situation would have remained the same. One more time: boys and young men in the K – 12 system are being ground down by the feminist system, and Zero Tolerance is part of that system. Therefore, teaching them… Read more »

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EhIntellect This isn’t about him, it’s about you and your cloistered, atop my perch, owlish attitude raining down sanctimonious RP tautology that Rollo stated well enough already. Which “him”? I’m trying to explain why 18 year old men now have grown up in a different world than Blaximus , you, Sentient, etc. did but that message just isn’t getting throught. You aligned with that fella just a little and….read for yourself how he described you, AR. The most reasonable one here. Really? Do you really want to be yoked with that left-handed blessing from that guy? Explaining something to a… Read more »

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I’ve had two police confrontations, with my kids present…

Good job on retaining frame and mindset. Good lesson for the young people around you as well.

My point: need to teach as many young men as possible various truths, can’t necessarily use the same methods as back in the last century.

Thanks for agreeing with me.

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Blaximus I’m just not capable of babying and/or coddling anyone with a penis and testicles beyond the age of 12. Why are so many men fond of false dichotomies, I wonder? Maybe it’s easier than actually thinking? No matter what a young man is going through, at some point if you’re trying to actually help him, your message must include a direct command for him to ” nut up ” in some fashion. Scammers, cons and bullshit artists have always been around, and today they have a ten million watt megaphone. The principle remains the same. True. So what? Things… Read more »

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@”Sentient” @kfg

Thanks for agreeing with me via pretty pictures.

kfg’s pics makes me want to go squirrel hunting…

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““Ordinary son” was just a label.”

LOL. The label that fit…

If you want to champion the ordinary, expect to continue to observe ordinary outcomes.

See – Reference Experiences.

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I said I’d let it go and do. You have the floor.

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I think we should refrain from attacking each other like it’s a bitch contest. We must rise above this pettiness. We must move beyond divide & conquer shaming tactics. After all, that’s how the enemy rolls…

Keep your eyes on the ball & the trophy, gentlemen…

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@Rollo Agreed – the level of honest signals required to even entertain commitment (without immediately being cockerelled) is all-time high so I guess meta-alpha is a better concept than a beta/alpha balance. And so therefore telling betas to even think about retaining beta traits is unwise (shadow side time…) Perhaps if we’re gonna ‘control’ women by influencing their hypergamous radars (they seem to need to be controlled so they don’t tear everything down – including the future of little boys – and so that there’s a chance of actually building something rather than ONS) this requires being devious, non-apologetic and… Read more »

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@SSFox and wwkkd, Great contributions. IMO here’s the deal regarding internecine conflict: when a guy, as wwkkd wrote, continues hideing himself, half steps, with all the anonymous protection online, how is a guy to trust him offline? Here he should lay it down as SSFox has and…ta-da…you’re a sympathetic character. This is about character more than sex btw…though you do you of course. Words do mean things. Playing nice isn’t playing smart. No More Mister Nice Guy book addresses all that. As SJF apperently still sleeping I’ll offer these germane identifiers of Mr. Nice Guy… Nice guys- hide their perceived… Read more »

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“Perhaps if we’re gonna ‘control’ women by influencing their hypergamous radars (they seem to need to be controlled so they don’t tear everything down – including the future of little boys – and so that there’s a chance of actually building something rather than ONS) this requires being devious, non-apologetic and openly competitive, so that other men ally and women easily (subconsciously) fall into the frame (think of the openly worn Muslim neck-beard and attire/hijab… these guys don’t hide).”

Control, devious, neck beard…

All this compels her, unwillingly stuffs her into man’s frame. Not really falling don’t you think?

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@EhIntellect Thanks. Okay I like integrated. That’s the right word. A neck beard is like a tattoo – it’s openly masculine (women don’t grow beards) and a statement as it’s a Muslim (relatively patriarchal) grooming style. Talking about tattoos, that’s a devious move that can ‘control’ a woman’s hypergamous radar. Probably control is the wrong word – maybe direct is a better one. I think Entrepreneur’s in Cars is doing a good job of building non-trench warfare, cool open content, as is Molyneux. If you truly study a movie like Frozen (which directs young girls to tap into their arguable… Read more »

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It seems that Steven Crowder, Hodge Twins, Shapiro strong diverse alliances that don’t obsess about resentment is a decent strategy.

It’s like “those guys seem pretty happy and fun – they might have some cool ideas”.

Going Rambo seems like giving up on young men, who btw will have energy and which you can perhaps tap into once you get older.

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“Yet, not to be rude or to create an uncomfortable scene, she goes through with the inconvenient, lack luster, sex because it was easier to say yes than to say no.”

I met one of those very early in my “dating” career. It turned me off. I told her “we better not”. And didn’t. It helped that she was at best a 5 (probably 3 or 2).

I made up my mind then that if “she” was not enthusiastic – I wasn’t interested. Willing was no longer enough. At the time my “n” was 4 or 5.

It has served me well.

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Just listening to an article on climate change. This blog deals with the male female dynamics and relationships. This video on Climate change; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgh3Obf4LeA The presenter had 3 thoughts on managing climate change (Id love to insert a screen shot – not sure how to do that though). “Thought Number 3” (58.00mins into the video) is; “It time to end male dominance” “Population must be controlled” “The best way to do this is to empower woman economically and politically” Some would say this is conspiracy theory. The guy presenting is your typical scientist type – he doesn’t come across as… Read more »

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It is no surprise that all of these politically-driven efforts at control originate on the campuses of Ivy League institutions. They are invariably controlled by the “Hostile Elite” who are viscerally opposed to the culture that led to the creation of this country. Graduates of these institutions have disproportionate access to, and impact on, the political process. This is aimed, primarily, at the White Male. The Duke Lacrosse Case is as illustrative an example as any writer of fiction could create. Every actor in this event is a perfect archetype for the subjects being discussed. You don’t find the sensationalism… Read more »

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