Dangerous Times – Part 2

The fulfillment of your own sexuality is nothing less than your battle for existence. – Pook

If you’ve been wondering what I’ve been doing lately over the past week I took it upon myself to read through the 7,000 word short story “Cat Person” that’s recently gone viral. The author, 36 year old Kristen Roupenian, was also offered a one million dollar book deal to expand the story even further. You too can read the whole thing if you have the stomach, but it reads every bit like the passive-aggressive indirection I’d expected it would coming from a less-than Hypergamously satisfied woman who’s well past the Wall. Rather than craft a concrete article about her own inner conflict (and by association all women’s conflict) of having ‘inconvenient’ casual sex, she thought she wanted, we get an overwritten fiction that sock-puppets herself as the main character.

If this book does publish, trust me, it wont be a new 50 Shades of Grey. Cat Person  resonates with women today because we now live in the #MeToo era of moral panic inspired by the same Future is Female outrage brokers who brought us pink pussy knitted caps and the women’s march in the wake of Hillary Clinton’s defeat. I decided to split this series of essays into two parts because at this moment in history we are beginning to see the culmination of the predictions I alluded to in my essay, The Political is Personal. We are seeing, in real time, just how a feminine-primary social order and a growing female supremacism consolidates its power. But as I outlined in that essay, this power is always predicated on the hope of ensuring the largest pool of women are legally and socially entitled to the unquestioned, and unmerited, optimization of Hypergamy.

Any man with a Red Pill Lens reading through Cat Person will easily pick out the social conventions and rationalizations unique to women’s ‘hamstering’ (“Flirting with her customers was a habit she’d picked up back when she worked as a barista, and it helped with tips.”) that the manosphere has been picking apart for almost two decades now. And, like most women, the female readership find nothing inconsistent or conflicting about any of it. Roupenian breezes through the ins and outs of women’s sexual pluralism and the differences between transactional (Beta) and validational (Alpha) sex without so much as an afterthought – and her readers eat it up with the same solipsism.

However, the overarching concern for women about this story is the issue of the newly coined term “enthusiastic consent”. Our poor Margot (the main character and proxy for the author, and ultimately all women) is torn up by a casual sexual encounter that at first she thought she wanted, but later, even after giving the guy the green light to have sex with her, she loses enthusiasm to bang him. Yet, not to be rude or to create an uncomfortable scene, she goes through with the inconvenient, lack luster, sex because it was easier to say yes than to say no.

There are other names for this kind of sex: gray zone sex, in reference to that murky gray area of consent; begrudgingly consensual sex, because, you know, you don’t really want to do it but it’s probably easier to just get it over with; lukewarm sex, because you’re kind of “meh” about it; and, of course, bad sex, where the “bad” refers not to the perceived pleasure of it, but to the way you feel in the aftermath.

Essentially, this shift from Yes Means Yes consent to Enthusiastic Consent ask the last questions in women’s social consolidation of Hypergamy:

“Must I still have to have transactional sex with Betas if all my provisional needs are more or less met?”

“If I’m an ’empowered’ woman, am I not entitled to the sex I want to have with Alpha men that validate both my hindbrain and my ego?”

“Can transactional sex with Betas be used as leverage to extort resources from them at any future date by redefining that undesired sex as ‘rape’?”

Curb Your “Enthusiasm”

The reason I believe that Roupenian’s future book will fall flat is because the viral conversation her short story elicits is about a new terminology that the Feminine Imperative hopes to insert into the public sphere – that of ‘enthusiastic consent‘ being the only legitimate form of consent a woman can give a man. Anything less than genuine enthusiasm (however this is arbitrarily defined by women) is at best illegitimate consent and at worst rape – even if every indicator a woman gives a man prior to, during and after sex says ‘yes’ she still means ‘no’ and, as we’ll see here, it will be incumbent on that man to be an adequate mindreader and sexual evaluator to determine her real degree of ‘enthusiasm’ both in the moment and into the future.

There’s a lot to unpack here, but I wanted to begin with a comment I received last week:

If you read feminist literature, the intent behind “enthusiastic consent” seems to have good intentions. Its based on the following purported beliefs:

  • That there is a huge incidence of coerced sex and sexual contact, which is mostly inadvertent rather than malicious. The best way to correct this is to teach men the principles of EC. 
  • That the idea of a sharp Alpha/Beta divide in men’s sexual attractiveness is a myth propagated by the misogynistic Right. Furthermore, girls and women have a realistic idea of their own SMV and will be attracted to their male equivalent.

Thus, feminists believe a free sexual market will see assortive mating with both men and women being able to get a similar amount of sex. This is why when men complain of the difficulty of getting sex, many women will retort that it must be because they are only chasing “supermodels”.

Look at Charlie Rose, is this a man with any Red Pill at all? Giving shoulder rubs to office girls, showing porn to a couple, this is all high school Beta stuff. But he had a TV show that lots of famous people wanted to get on. Clearly Beta-ized, but a situational Alpha. In my not so humble opinion most of the #MeToo girls are going after former situational Alphas because they turned out to be Blue Pill Beta after all…they feel cheated, and are just so sure that all the other girls got to ride a real Alpha pony on the carousel, so the fury comes out.

The ‘enthusiastic’ consent social push we are just on the cusp of today is the next progression in the larger goal of feminism – removing all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality. ‘Enthusiastic consent’ will be the raison d’etat for the legislation leading to the outlawing of any form of male sexual expression.

From The Political is Personal:

The inherent insecurity that optimizing Hypergamy poses to women is so imperative, so all-consuming, to their psychological wellbeing that establishing complex social orders to facilitate that optimization were the first things women collectively constructed when they were (nominally) emancipated from men’s provisioning around the time of the sexual revolution.

Ensuring the optimization of women’s biologically prompted Hypergamy is literally the basis of our current social order. On a socio-political scale what we’re experiencing is legislation and cultural mandates that better facilitate Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks.

[…]As Open Hypergamy becomes more institutionalized and made a societal norm by the Feminine Imperative, and as more men become Red Pill aware (by effort or consequences) because of it, the more necessary it will become for a feminine-primary social order to legislate and mandate men comply with it.

As much as I’d like to believe that normalizing ‘enthusiastic consent’ may lead to women overplaying their hand, I have to consider how the specificity of defining consent will also redefine past sexual norms and intersexual dynamics; not just among single individuals having loosely defined “consensual” sex, but also married couples and how sex (or lack thereof) defines their relationships. As if the men of today needed one more reason to be wary of marriage and how it will eventually affect their sex lives, now we can add the potential for ‘marital rape’ accusations based on EC (enthusiastic consent) to that list; and all in light of women’s less than enthusiastic response to any of her husband’s advances. God forbid a mewling Beta pouts his way into this grey zone ‘duty sex’ with his unenthusiastic wife.

What were witnessing here is the insertion of college campus consent laws into Marriage 2.0, and as designed its intent is to further disrupt marriage and family. Even in the old books presumptions about marriage a man could expect his commitment to a wife and family meant a plenary exchange of sexual access. But when enthusiastic consent is a prerequisite for legitimizing sexual encounters, anything resembling a woman’s putting out duty sex for her husband, even starfish lack luster obligatory sex is defined as rape.

I got the following comment from last week’s Red Pill Reddit forum repost:

The fundamental driver is removal of female responsibility for her actions, pushing all responsibility onto men. Whatever happens between a man and a woman, women universally agree that the man is to blame for any and all results, including her subsequent regret.

Responsibility used to be on women to say “no” if she wanted to claim rape. This responsibility has been removed. No longer does she have to verbalise lack of consent. No longer does she even have to verbalise actual consent. She can decide after the fact…. years after the fact…. whether her consent was in fact enthusiastic enough, and she can base that on her future feelings. “But did you enthusiastically scream yes?” her friends will ask, which is more than the police or the public will subsequently ask of her.

Women side with women. Whiteknights, weak Betas and naive Blue Pill fools side with women. Everyone agrees women are right and men are wrong.

And this is the intended result: women are not to be held responsible for their actions. They are not to be held responsible at any cost – including the destruction of male lives.

I presented this point in Men and Suicide, but just to recap, on a subconscious level women will always seek to absolve themselves of complicity in men’s personal destruction. This extends from destroying mens lives due to regrets over not optimizing Hypergamy, to any concern over men committing suicide. At present, women are attempting to reconcile ‘bad sex’ with ‘inconvenient sex’ they have in spite of themselves. However, the same absolution of any inherent complicity in this ‘transactional’ sex ends with blaming men for women’s lack of agency or self-moderation:

Bad sex isn’t even necessarily coercive. I’m talking about having a sexual encounter you don’t want to have because in the moment it seems easier to get it over with than it would be to extricate yourself.

Young women say yes to sex they don’t actually want to have all of the time. Why? Because we condition young women to feel guilty if they change their mind. After all, you’ve already made it back to his place, or you’re already on the bed, or you’ve already taken off your clothes, or you’ve already said yes. Do you really want to have an awkward conversation about why you want to stop? What if it hurts his feelings? What if it ruins the relationship? What if you seem like a bitch?

The problem in this rationale isn’t about women changing their mind or feeling guilty – those are excuses for male-initiated victimhood for women and absolve women’s complicity – rather, the focus should be on the fact that women going through with this type of sex presently have the option to ruin a man’s life at any future date by defining it as ‘unwanted sex’. Ella Dawson may not want to conflate transactional, Beta sex as rape, but that’s where this conversation is leading us to.

Is it OK for Alpha Males?

I apologize for forgetting who it was that sent me this link, but the present day #MeToo moral panic combined with notions of “enthusiastic consent” and a resulting atmosphere of fear in intersexual dynamics was predicted as far back as 2004, and by a woman no less:

Sexual harassment is a crime committed by beta-males who think they can get away with alpha behavior. But that is a distinction too delicate for the blunt instrument of the law. How do you explain to a judge why one man’s comedy is another man’s bone-chilling lechery? And can we really expect the beta-males themselves to understand the difference?

I found this article very prescient about our present moral panic. In the last two posts I’ve made the case that what were finally seeing on a social scale is the consolidation of women’s entitlement to an almost socialistic guarantee of optimized Hypergamy. Through any number of direct and indirect institutions we’ve now virtually guaranteed women a right to Beta men’s resources, protection and provisioning as well as a dominant social status above them both at home and in the workplace. Whether overtly or covertly, women dominate Beta men; the last piece of consolidating Hypergamy is then the (at least partial) control of Alpha Fucks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7kpmwa/dangerous_times_part_1/drhirym/

As we move into 2018 – an era to be defined even more thoroughly by the Future is Female, #MeToo and Enthusiastic Consent – I believe we’ll see a push for the following:

  • Sexual harassment will indeed be a crime committed by Beta males who fail at a convincing ‘Alpha’ behavior. As such the push will be to get Beta men to self-police their behavior via fear. There will be a doubling down on the part of Blue Pill White Knights and ‘Feminist Allies’ in the wake of the social and legal options women will have to be believed of men’s sexual misconduct allegations by default. Feminized men will “try harder” and rat out their rivals for any hint of misconduct in an Orwellian effort to be more appealing and identifying with women.
  • Only confident Alpha men, or men well versed in Game, will be allowed to approach women from a perspective of social acceptability. However, even then it will be a woman’s prerogative to later define that approach or subsequent interaction as harassment if that Alpha doesn’t comply with a woman’s long term security needs, provisioning and parental investment ‘entitlements’. The latent purpose of a suspension of the statutes of limitation for sexual harassment will center on locking down (perceptually) Alpha men in a long term relationship.
  • This new feminine-primary sexual paradigm will further limit Beta men’s sexual access and increase reproduction stress in the few Beta men who don’t pragmatically drop out of the sexual marketplace altogether. This will also reinforce boys/men’s conditioning of loathing their own gender. They will be taught to accept this feminine-primary sexual strategy, as well as the legal restrictions  on his power of choice and his life’s direction as the societal norm.
  • Legal mandates and societal mores will directly and indirectly ensure Beta men’s compliance in all aspects of parental investment in children he was not biologically responsible for, as well as women’s long term security.

Now, more than ever it is imperative that men become Red Pill awakened and see the writing on the wall with a Red Pill Lens. All of this may seem horribly unavoidable, but let me emphasize, it’s not for men who are aware of, and have internalized intersexual dynamics and can plan accordingly.

In the last installment of this series I’ll be delving into some of the larger socio-sexual implications of where we find ourselves today and where I see present day intersexual relations leading us in a larger scale as well as what Red Pill men can do to win at whats becoming a very dangerous game.

 

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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@EhIntellect – “Questions for you: Why so much more heat than light? What do you gain here, when here?” Nothing. But, I’m able to burn off some “heat”. And why not? Why would “light” be better, or serve better than “heat”? There are times and places appropriate for both, sometimes together. The way I see it is, “things are what they are”, what is happening is happening. We are aware of what is happening and the factors involved because we are ”enlightened”, partly by the “light” shown here. Do you think some “new” “light” or “more enlightenment” will magically change… Read more »

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NBTM,

Easy, man. I ‘m on your side.

“Would you feeeeel safer, more comfortable, more secure in your quest for more “light” if I went away?”

No my comment wasn’t about me. I was taking a legitimate interest in your story and don’t take your defensiveness personally either.

No snark here: Stress kills. I hope you find what you’re looking for.

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Blaximus What’s it like living with/ dating / being married to a woman that would even consider calling the cops on you? I dunno what it’s like to be married to a woman like, that but it stinks badly to date one. That level of entiltled-special-princess-strong-independent-sista-doin-it-for-her-self feminist arrogance can be hidden for about two or three hours tops. Then it’s like week-old raw fish under the table. It stinks. Which is what led to me dumping more than one “bright, college educated” women . Old story, and their are more of those bitches on wheels now than back in previous… Read more »

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@ theasdgamer Enough with this Dancing shit it’s getting old! I don’t think there is anyone on here that doesn’t know that’s your angle. You think you have shit figured out but to me seems like you are just a ” situational alpha” that uses your dancing hobby to instill dread in your wife. Away from your dance “arena” it probably has had the by product of improving your frame as you believe you have abundance due to your interactions at your dance meetings so not all bad, but at the end of the day you are just running a… Read more »

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@Play

Why the fear and insecurity?

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If people have been paying attention, dancing isn’t my main strategy. Dancing hints at what my main strategy is. Anybody care to guess? (Hint: Rollo talks about it in TRM.)

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Beta boys beware:

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I have a teenage son WHOM I don’t want to become a herb..

FIFY.

How many men here have given a copy of Rollo’s book or books to a young man?

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Blaximus @447 Thinking of women as ” inferior ” is an awful tactical mistake, and it’s just plain not true. Worse than a mistake, it is a blunder. The White Knights in western countris 100 years ago thought of women as inferior in the sense 447 said, but also virtuous – more virtuous than men, in fact. In the US one slogan that was used to give women the vote? Women would clean up politics, because they were more moral than men. No, I’m not joking. All of the behaviors of women exist as some form of compnsation for their… Read more »

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@Rugby “I also enjoy the company of mostly like minded men which is difficult to find in real life.” The Independent article (written by a woman) was the stupidest thing I’ve read in the last 45 years. Totally written as a Blue Pill, Matrix programming pablum. Good guy friends don’t have bromances as that is a passive social matrix girly thing. Guys respect other guys, get together and hang out to get something done. To be on task. Sometimes they don’t even know that they are hanging out to get something done, but that is always in the background and… Read more »

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“How many men here have given a copy of Rollo’s book or books to a young man?” In the last 4.5 years I didn’t need to give my son a book. I let him have his way with subtle guidance derived from Red Pill. I planted ideas in his head that were red pill and masculine. He’s getting into his own. I allowed him his toxic masculinity. Thanks red pill guidance. It was invaluable. Without correction when it was not appropriate. ‘Cause it actually wasn’t in real time. He turned 23 and near as I can figure he had great… Read more »

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@ Rollo

Great Job on the Davis Aurini interview.

Eva Longoria is fat and dressed in black @the Golden Globes (Golden Globs shit-show with black dresses). Thanks for the different venue.

The answer to Aurini’s question about Frame and your answer bringing The Reconstruction essay into play: Brilliant. Thanks!

Inter-sexual dynamics awareness writing FTW.

Act like a man. For everyone’s sake, my friends, our friends, for everyone’s friends. Your girlfiriend, your wife your buddies. They will all benefit from you being better at being a man. No questions asked.

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There is no consent any longer. If consent can be revoked at any time on any basis was it ever given in the first place?

There are no guarantees in this universe anymore, zero, none, nada. You’re either always mitigating risk, (G)ZF or you find another universe, maybe create your own. Maybe we were all foolish to believe there ever were any to begin with.

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How many men here have given a copy of Rollo’s book or books to a young man?

I have given one so far. And now it’s circulating around a Frat house. Wonder how that will turn out.

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Rollo had an interesting post in his Twitter feed. It was interesting from the standpoint of the fact that in inter-sexual relationships, the one that needs the other less has the most power. But sometimes after children, the power dynamic changes. You don’t want your other to have the power. You don’t want to lord you power over her. You want to be in equilibrium. That’s hard. You don’t want it to be hard. That doesn’t mean that the one up in the power struggle has a good time of not resolving his cognitive dissonance or if he indeed becomes… Read more »

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What do you mean “win”. No, there is no “winning”, at least not for long. Do you think your readers will commit more earnestly to become red-pilled? And to what degree? 3rd fucking degree black belt Red Pill? Then what? Then what? What is the end game? Alpha badasses wife up the top-tier sluts, maintain frame and keep their pussies wet-4-life, thereby avoiding rape charges and prison? What the fuck? Oh and don’t forget you gotta become alpha daddies too! ……. I know that was supposed to be some righteous political outrage but all I could think of is how… Read more »

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Ya. Those tweets. Black dresses indeed for the whores of babylon. Why not just stick to scarlet? Men cannot be victims. It is true. We can see it now. A lie repeated enough times will start to be taken for the truth. A victim starts to feel like he is the culprit and the culprit believes she is the victim. Condoms in a dustbin. A woman will even force a pregnancy they could easilty avoid on a man who has no intention of birthing any kids with her, and the whole world thinks she is the victim. The western woman… Read more »

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Thx for the positive feedback, gentlemen. I’ve made 2 new music traks since my downer (i work fast in the studio) and have hit 2018 running & now my mojo’s back! Just gotta be patient & focused. Pussy will come as it always has, i know that. I think half my problem is that i’ve feasted on a lot of pussy variety over the years, so have been rather spoilt. And yes, palmasailor. my man, prossies aren’t an option for the reasons you outlined. Just had to get it off my chest into my manosphere community, which helped immensely. I… Read more »

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Why are people so worried about the law? If you maintain the proper frame, you won’t get into legal problems, because she won’t be calling 911 on you — that only happens when you don’t maintain frame. Alpha really is the answer, as much as guys like to avoid that truth. Nova, I mostly agree with you here EXCEPT FOR ONE REALLY BIG CAVEAT. This doesn’t apply if the woman you are dealing with is personality disordered, Cluster B, particularly if she is a female psychopath (anti-social personality disorder) or NPD. In these situations, alpha frame is unlikely to have… Read more »

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What’s it like living with/ dating / being married to a woman that would even consider calling the cops on you?

FWIW, there is only one right answer once a woman plays this card, or hints that it is even a remote possibility. End the relationship immediately.

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“What do you mean “win”.

Having freedom from constraint. Something to move towards, even if you can never get it 100%. Same as it ever was.

“Black dresses indeed for the whores of babylon. Why not just stick to scarlet?”

Wearing scarlet would be antithetical to the Times Up movement. It would signal sexual receptivity like ripe fruit red. Especially with a smile and looking into the camera. Rather than black as death color (one presenter/performer woman was even wearing a dress with black pants below), not smiling and looking at Ryan Seacrest. Just a scream for :”I’m shutting you down.”

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Didn’t see any pix or footage, but…
Black clothing is considered to be “slimming,” black is generally flattering and black is an appropriate color for this kind of event — so what do they think they were proving? White would at least be hilariously virginal, or get out the Pantone color wheel and pick some distinctively off-the-wall shade to make a “statement”

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@The Solitary Silver FoX

“They will soon be enthusiastically begging for us to come back to the party, on all fours. Interesting times, indeed…”

I wouldn’t bet on this thinking, sure the more feminine women wouldn’t do the dirty jobs but I could see some Dyke bitches taking pride in doing a man’s job just to smite men and make then obsolete their are bitches like that and it wouldn’t surprise me if they made a movement to not shame women for doing dirty jobs or some shit like that.

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the answers is social media game – instagram, etc. it’s how girls hookup now. nightgame is dead, daygame is limping. better get to work on your photos if you want a chance

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Black is slimming?

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Huh…

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Meanwhile last February Saudi women celebrated the First Women’s Day… When will Hollyweird adopt the burka? Oscar night?

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Easy for these post wall slags to black out…

But ladies you know you got bigger problems…

Younger hotter tighter will not go easy into that dark night…

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Feminazism has some recursive logic problems don’t it. Let the slut who has not used her pretty card throw the first stone… Shaming commences to laughter.

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https://twitter.com/blancablanco?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-31091897811136406209.ampproject.net%2F1513979839742%2Fframe.html

“And where the hell is this Weinstein everone is talking about! I have a script I am perfect for. Let’s “talk” 👌. DM me.?”

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Levijynx and matt

Don’t be dumb. Women aren’t changing as much as men are. We’re backing out of our wheelhouse and women are mad about it.

There’s meat and potatoes opportunity galore out there. Stop reflecting dog talk “bitches” and gay-ass FB and instagram ideas and you might have real sexual success.

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Wow! I spoke too soon. There goes scarlet!

Well, well…

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The black dress code at the Golden Globs is just another display of #MeeToo hypocritical feminist cowshit.Because they all knew. All of them knew, for years. They just have to strike a heroine-pose now that people outside of Hollywood know for sure, that’s all.

I mean, all those girlies are actresses, they are supposed to be good at acting. Duh.

Younger/hotter/tighter girls wearing colors? That’s just Rollo’s SMV curve at work. It is all obvious and should be easy for a man with The Glasses to predict.

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ah yes, where else better to find a vichy male leading the charge?

https://www.fastcompany.com/40514424/after-iceland-and-germany-now-france-declares-war-on-the-gender-wage-gap

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@Morpheus

In these situations, alpha frame is unlikely to have much impact on her decision to use the legal system as a tool against you.

Cluster B-I-N-G-O

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@ SJF

Much gratitude to you brother for the Jordan Peterson links. Great stuff which i’ve already started sharing through my networks…

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@levijynx 1) LRN2ENGLISH. Punctuation and sentence structure is good. Run on sentences are bad. Your shit’s barely readable. 2) “I could see some Dyke bitches taking pride in doing a man’s job just to smite men and make then obsolete” Hahahahah, no. Take a good long look at the change in the number of women in garbage collection, construction, and oil rig work vs. the change in marketing or psychology. Women don’t want equal rights to dirty work. They want equal rights to cushy office jobs and easy paychecks. Who can blame them though? I wouldn’t want to work construction… Read more »

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@sun
Long time no see. Iceland has now a law requiring men be paid the same as women for the same job, or something like that. Norway mandated 50 / 50 split in all boards of directors a year or three back. No idea how that is working out, the sensible thing for any company headquarted in Norway would be to get out. In fact, men in general should get out of Norway and Sweden, given how feminist both countries have become.

Feminism: because meritocracy is clearly patriarchal oppression.

Yep.

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https://twitter.com/RationalMale/status/950508838649610240?s=17

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Alpha Farm of 2035. Morning roll call…

Fall in!

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I am still having trouble taking these women seriously.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/roseanne-barr-better-president-oprah-trump-article-1.3745679

Neither could be president.

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One thing I’ve been wondering is how much of this is an over exaggeration and fear mongering from the red pill’s part. The biggest examples of going after men for sexual misconduct are occurring in Hollywood where stories of pedophilia also abound, it stands to reason, considering human nature, for men in these positions of power to abuse it and women keeping quiet for multiple reasons until now when there’s risk of having their reputations destroyed by powerful people in Hollywood. It’s a different world. The question is how common is this among everyday people and it isn’t just a… Read more »

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@palmasailor

So what exactly are you trying to say here? How does this have to do with the possibility that we may be over exaggerating things here? As I said before, all these big cases we hear in the news is happening in Hollywood where fame and reputation is a bigger deal than in other workplaces. Just because you give me a random percent still doesn’t disprove that powerful people would abuse their position to get something they want.

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Won’t deny that, but I’m still wondering if we are giving the women in Hollywood too much credit and the men truly abused their power. Think of all the big names in Hollywood and it’s predominately men. It had to take a social moment to bring all of this in the surface yet there is still no word on all the alleged pedophilia in Hollywood.

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@ palmasailor

“Is it just me or does anyone else find these women totally unfuckable despite being hot on the surface?”

I’ve gone out with a couple of hot women like this; one Danish, the other Serbian. Both were attractive yet a bit masculine; one good in bed, the other mind-blowing, but they were often painful and argumentative out of it. It just becomes a drag after a while. Give me a submissive, feminine babe anytime who looks up to me as the man. But in this day and age they’re very thin on the ground it seems…

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You say victim status but I’m trying to see things more objectively. You are using examples that have nothing to do with why I think we may getting too paranoid when all these examples are coming from Hollywood, degeneracy is something you hear of a lot from there, and there’s the risk that we are creating an echo chamber here.

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@palma

I’ve just finished with Xmas plate because she was just too high drama.

Did you create a mini-drama to avoid big dramatic scenes? All girls need drama and it’s up to the man to provide it when needed.

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“Is it just me or does anyone else find these women totally unfuckable despite being hot on the surface?” One widow, big land owner, swede connected sat next to me at holiday dinner. She was pretty enough and ready but far to bossy. I spent most of my time chin up chest out ignoring her. At the end she wanted a hug from me, it is as if because of her many orbiters she no longer has a clue how to seduce the men she desires. Couple this with the fact that I wouldn’t pull even if she wasn’t mouthy… Read more »

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@Palma

4 to 1 odds and the 1 being 90% beta not good odds, an Alpha could get trampled to death by a herd of hikers like that.

I was at a meet last week,9 women – 7 men, 5 beta 2 alpha. Reminds me of J Giles band love stinks.

It is as if the #meetoo is causative of a beta orbiter withdrawal,where the women are experiencing withdrawals as a byproduct. Lol.

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The ratios are skewed away from men, the women are bold while the men seek anonymity. Survival instincts in hyperdrive on both accounts.

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There is a lot of exaggeration taking place, but that’s why all of this #metoo stuff is gonna jump the shark very soon. The issue is the impact it will all have on policy and laws going forward. Sexual harassment and assault on women is very, very real. It’s not overwhelming society as the FI would have everyone believe, but occasionally even I’ve witnessed extreme examples. Imo we have more than enough existing laws on the books to deal with all manner of true assault and what’s dangerous for men is the redefining that’s taking place. It’s an odd situation… Read more »

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“a bit of a wide boy”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9gQU4OsEVhc

heh…

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Palma, “For one thing there seems to be a carbon copy desperation script across most online dating profiles that just seems to have changed over the past year or so.” You’re old enough to remember the Berlin Wall fall. Germans themselves were taken aback and unprepared for world communism collapse. We are living the autocannibalism of feminism but aren’t recognizing it. Let’s assume these: 20% of men are varying Alphas shades. 80% of men are varying Beta shades. Betas follow women, women follow Alphas. Women will negotiation fuck Betas and the Betas agree to those terms. Women will willingly fuck… Read more »

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Blax nails it again:
When women try to “fix” a problem, all you get is drama, emotion and lots of talk.
So true in business, politics, education and culture as well as personal life.
Hence the constant need for handsomely paid male consultants.

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Some studies on typical pain meds find they can affect boys in utero, as well as young men, in hormonall significant ways.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/08/health/ibuprofen-male-fertility-study/index.html

The dosages given to young men were 600 mg twice per day – that’s the max per day.
T is down world wide…

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“Alphas are being hunted to extinction.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3H_xsdr-Vs

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“Can’t live with someone I can’t trust, and betrayal ain’t even on the menu.” – Blaximus I can’t overstate the importance of this concept. I’ve been ruthless about dumping women who throw tantrums, and I don’t accept any excuses like being drunk, overtired, PMS, whatever. There are no second chances when it comes to this. I knew to do this even at my most Blue Pilled. You have to trust that no matter how upset your woman gets, making up a story, instigating a physical altercation, and/or calling the police is just not a possibility in her mind. I’ve never… Read more »

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This is why feminazism can’t win… 1. The crab basket. Behold… https://www.afp.com/en/news/206/french-star-deneuve-defends-mens-right-chat-women-doc-w392z1 “”They claimed that the “witch-hunt” that has followed threatens sexual freedom. “Rape is a crime, but trying to seduce someone, even persistently or cack-handedly, is not — nor is men being gentlemanly a macho attack,” said the letter published in the daily Le Monde. “Men have been punished summarily, forced out of their jobs when all they did was touch someone’s knee or try to steal a kiss,” said the letter, which was also signed by Catherine Millet, author of the hugely explicit 2002 bestseller “The Sexual Life… Read more »

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And if you know anything about the Crab Basket, you know ALL points of view will be heard from…

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Ever been in a meeting that should be 10 minutes, but after 5 women in the group get through each of their ” well I’m not sure but I think”‘s and hour and 20 is blown. And nothing resolved unless a guy says “ok right. Here is what we will do”…

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“Can’t live with someone I can’t trust, and betrayal ain’t even on the menu.” – Blaximus

Not sure why but I thought of this classic moment, the verbage could be reworked to relationships with women

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWuUGG_Ujf8

“Can’t do it”

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“I’ve never had a physical altercation with a woman, and never will.”
Well same here but I’ve grown up with women who were violent with me without responding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gi1eT7HvtM
On my part…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45V6db9CKcc

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the answers is social media game – instagram, etc. it’s how girls hookup now. nightgame is dead, daygame is limping. better get to work on your photos if you want a chance Has ANY guy on this site used online social media or dating apps with actually decently productive results. I’m very skeptical. I’m out of a 11 year relationship, and been on POF since August and Bumble since around October I think. I’ve yet to get an offer to meet from a HB6 or above. Only Pigs and Goblin looking creatures have messaged wanting to meet. On Bumble, I’ve… Read more »

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“well I’m not sure but I think”

Indecisiveness is a endearing feminine trait. Hence Alphas never ask a woman’s opinion on anything, i.e. dinner plans.

Airline pilot critical decision testing produced this: Men decisively make the less optimal choice, women make the more optimal choice but too late…making it irrelevant.

Hey, I’ve been ordering dinner, drink selection for my wife, over a few years now. Anyone else?

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Great choice of pix.

In general, women reject responsibility; are unhappy; and blame men.
From these three all else may be triangulated. St. Rollo sharpens one’s skepticism through elaboration. For that, Thanks.

Freeing and exhilarating to (finally) dump a well-schooled woman who did not know she is actually a feminist. No guilt.

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“Total beta death zone.”

Great commentary and advice for lurkers. Don’t waste your time online. You’d be closer to the bang and immeasurably improve skills when face to face.

Online dating incentivizes women not choosing, enjoying the thirsty flattery and has the opposite effect for men.

Was out at a popular dating bar later in evening and the Beta behavior, goofy clown antics abound. I could tell which couples were online daters, esp. with a few drinks. The women were politely uncomfortable with it.

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“Can’t live with someone I can’t trust, and betrayal ain’t even on the menu.”

Betrayal is a dog concept and trust is a BP fiction. Women can and will do all kinds of shit, even to alphas. Some of them have more self control and much of the time it depends on whether a man can set the proper frame. But any woman potentially will betray you if given the right emotions. Calibrate early, calibrate often.

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“inner circle”

Interesting. Around here preselection through family ties, neighborhoods, and large group dating are the prevalent game for the younger set.

It’s easy to get isolated if not related somehow.

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I was thinking about something, it doesnt have very much to do with the current article but I want to say it anyway. If we think about 80/20 rule or even 90/10 (we are heading to) we also must addmit that it means societal suicide. Because you dont have to be a math genius or some kind of scientist to realise that a 80/20 rule will lead to INBREEDING, And that will result in genetic disorders and all kind of unwanted consequences. And that means that society will collapse. I dont necessary advocate for a traditionalist perspective for human breeding,… Read more »

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@ Vulturul

Who hurt you?

There’s inaccuracy shot through your comments.

I’ll address this glaring one:

“Because you dont have to be a math genius or some kind of scientist to realise that a 80/20 rule will lead to INBREEDING…”

80% of men more or less negotiate with provisioning for sex, and resultant kids. Beta game.

The other 20% more or less don’t and the woman is satisfied. Alpha game.

There’s a lot more to this but explaining it all isn’t time efficient. Read more TRM.

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@EhIntellect Thats funny. Somehow. Because you said : ”80% of men more or less negotiate with provisioning for sex, and resultant kids. Beta game. The other 20% more or less don’t and the woman is satisfied. Alpha game.” And I dont see how is your argument contradicting what I said above. You are looking from a wrong perspective. Do you really think that those 80% would reproduce? Even if they do get married, their wives would probably cheat on them with some ”alpha”. And they get cucked. And after that, the man that got cucked have to raise a child… Read more »

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I’ll take a stab at sharing about online dating. I tried it about a year ago and had immediate success. Got laid three times with three different women the first two weeks I was online. There is room to debate the pros and cons of online dating. First, is it the most optimal? No. Is it a horrible experience? Nope. Are you a beta for trying it? I don’t think so. IF its your only option because you are fearful of cold approach you probably won’t do well with online dating either. I used it as a quick option to… Read more »

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@vulture de eghehgehge “I dont necessary advocate for a traditionalist perspective for human breeding, but traditional marriage would be better than 80/20. Because anybody would have a chance of reproducing and that equals a HUUUGE gene pool.” No one cares about a huge gene pool. “Becuase you see, its not men who changed over time, its women.” Nah homie society changed so women don’t really need big strong I protect u u give me sex relationship. …… and even then they’d still want the guy who can give them the best stuff in that aspect also. “So, no, its not… Read more »

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@Vulturul de Veghe

Ignore my comment.. Just read your response to ehintellect and realized you were autistic.

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“Do you really think that those 80% would reproduce?”

Yes.

Though those women might cheat…they’d have to find an available alpha willing to deal with her declining SMV and baggage. Good luck with that.

A woman in a Beta relationship stays true as long as provisioning serves its purpose, keeping her near. They’re detonate risk of straying and losing her provisioning and that’s a motivator for her.

People don’t live in vacuums though it’s easier to argue as if they do.

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there’s definate risk…

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What kind of 12 yo kid are you?
And you say I am autistic?

I said a theory, a theory that is backed up by logic and facts, objective facts, not your stupid ”feelingzzzz”… What are you, a feminist?

All you could say were insults and ”lol”.
But you didnt bring any counter-argument.

Bye kiddo. Now Go read your jezebel and other stupid feministic piece of propaganda.

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beep boop beep….autism alert autism alert

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“But you didnt bring any counter-argument.”

Didn’t want to give you the opportunity to write long paragraphs of loser text about how you’re right and things aren’t how they’re suppose to be

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@EhIntellect ”Yes. Though those women might cheat…they’d have to find an available alpha willing to deal with her declining SMV and baggage. Good luck with that.” Well, you know, she doesnt realise that her SMV is declinig until is too late for her to get an ”alpha” anymore. Anyway, she will still cheat on her current husband/lover if she ”thinks” that she has an better offer. Anyways, I was talking about a trend here,The trend is to go to 80/20 rule. Thats also what the ellites want. Thats why they are promoting through every possible means, through law, feminist state… Read more »

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@mersonia

”beep boop beep….autism alert autism alert”
”Didn’t want to give you the opportunity to write long paragraphs of loser text about how you’re right and things aren’t how they’re suppose to be”

No, actually you are in denial phase, kid.
Or you are a troll.

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Vulturul,

I do but don’t pick fights about it.

There’s such things as happy Beta relationships…but that discussion has been done to death. Ya know?

You write energeticly. Give us some background…age, sexual hx, city size you live in. Most guys don’t come here to bombasticly argue. Don’t tell me you’re a one-man fire bell for us rubes here at TRM either.

There’s more to you than that.

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@Vulturul:

Here is a primal, intersexual exchange:

Prima: Give me . . .
Secundus: No.

Which side of this conversation is the one that has changed?

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Vult — Uh — they 80/20 rule is about desire sex. 20% of the men get the desire sex, 80% of the men get negotiated sex (which can lead to little sex depending on their circumstances). Betas still get married and have kids (you’re blind if you you don’t see that going on), but they do have (1) little to no desire sex (which means lower quality sex), (2) often less sex (often a lot less) overall, even if married, and (3) a higher risk of her blowing up the marriage than a woman who is with a 20% man.… Read more »

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Roused
“Widow” is a woman whose husband has died.

“Widower” is a man whose wife has died.

They are not the same thing. You should avoid dating widowers unless you are gay.

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Vulture “Do you really think that those 80% would reproduce?” EhIntellect Yes. True for the past 40 years. Your crystal ball really that good with the future? Though those women might cheat…they’d have to find an available alpha willing to deal with her declining SMV and baggage. Nah. You know better than that. We are moving from AF-BB to AF-Beta Cucks, aka Open Hypergamy. It’s already happening at a low key level – the married woman with 2 kids who decides to “get some help” with the 3rd one. Just to pick one example. The woman who settles at age… Read more »

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Vultur you sound like sour grapes, Hypergamy is and has been the best retardation prevention. Also it is the main reason that humans rule the planet.

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“In the under-30 world women more and more out earn men; they are their own Beta.”

What Alpha in his right mind would fuck, let alone initiate matrimony and reproduce with an over 30 woman?

The point is that prewall women have default access to the Alphas. The women post wall aren’t really an Alpha’s bag and as such she won’t find a desire fuck, just more Beta negotiation.

It’s a numbers thing. Even if she wanted an Alpha, she won’t find one to willing to entertain her. All’s left is varying Beta shades for children and family life, generally.

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