The Reconstruction III

 

I added this video today to illustrate a point, watch it carefully and with a Red Pill Lens. In this post-sexual revolution 2017 there is a strong want for the fulfillment of what I call the Old Books socio-sexual model goals. I’ll be impressed if you can stomach even half of the boilerplate ‘Man Up’ message in this video, but watch it carefully because it illustrates the dichotomy of a social order that’s been founded on feminine-primacy for over six decades now.

On a side note, I think it should be recognized that even ostensibly conservative thought leaders often toe the line for the Feminine Imperative more effectively than the progressives they attempt to disparage. I’m not going to riff on this video as I think most of my readers will understand the subtext being communicated here, but it’s an interesting exposé of the old books expectation of “doing the right thing”. Granted, it’s the same message of shaming men for exactly what I covered in Are You Experienced?  Only this time the shame for men comes from another man (we’re supposed to respect?) while he attempts to sell the same message that Sheryl Sandberg does in Open Hypergamy,… Be like Ward Cleaver (he’s a stud) and in time, nothing’s sexier.

When we consider that western cultures have consolidated on feminine social primacy, and a women’s-needs-first way of interpreting any social dynamic, things get a bit easier when you distill the intent down from a social scale to a personal scale. What’s being related in this video is the desire to socially, culturally, change the definition of what should be considered “sexy” by women in spite of all evolved arousal and attraction cues they’re subject to. The presumption this is based upon is that attraction is a social construct and therefor something that can be changed.

If a man does everything by the book, if he does everything right, if he accepts the responsibilities feminine-primacy expects of him, he can be considered an adult, and he can assume his chances of being considered ‘sexy’ by women and certainly his own wife.  In so accepting this definition of his burden of performance women will appreciate the equity he accrues in the relationship by investing himself in it.

From a Red Pill perspective we see this for what it is, the old books social contract that is still being sold to a generation of men who increasingly are seeing it for the life-changing lie it is. However, I’ll have you note the final summation of the video where men are encouraged to see adulthood as getting married, becoming a father and working hard to buy a home. I could argue that there are no June Cleavers left in the world or that getting married is a high-risk, low yield gamble. I could argue that becoming a father only makes a man fall in line with the ridiculous or hated caricature popular culture has made of them. I won’t even start on the risks of the housing market.

For all of this, the desire is still a return to a social contract wherein men are conditioned to believe that they will be rewarded for doing everything right. That old school notion has become the Beta bait of the past 3 generations.

As I mentioned in the last installment of this series, most men who are ‘awakened while married’ want to apply their Red Pill awareness in such a way that they might achieve this idyllic state that the guy in this video assures us is possible if we’d all just Man Up. Most married Red Pill (MRP) men are looking to save their marriages. They see it as a key to getting a woman to appreciate his investment in her, in their kids, in his marriage, his dedication to ‘doing everything the right way’,

Much in the same way that single Red Pill guys will (initially) focus on Red Pill awareness and Game in order to eventually connect with their Dream Girls, so too does the MRP guy. The difference being that he’s convinced he’s already married to his dream girl and the only thing between him and that ideal life with her is finding the formula to achieve the life-plan this video elaborates.

As I said before, most married men’s first intent when they unplug isn’t to divorce their wives, hit the clubs and spin plates. His first thought is “how do I get her to come around to appreciating me?” or “How do I get back to the kind of sex we had (or I think we could)?” I think it’s important for men, both Red Pill singles and MRP to disabuse themselves of the Blue Pill goals they think might ever be achievable with Red Pill awareness. I say this because it put that awareness into the perception of it being a cure to their problems. While it may seem noble to a newly unplugged guy to want to use his new superpower of Red Pill awareness for good (not for evil) and valiantly use it to do the right thing for his wife, his desire to do so is still founded in a Blue Pill conditioning that’s taught him he’ll be appreciated for it.

It may be that his new Alpha impression on his wife isn’t something she will ever recognize or accept as ‘the real him’. And while this frustration plays out in his marriage, he also sees the positive responses from women outside his marriage – women unfamiliar with his Beta past – who readily respond to the Game he applies. That new positive reinforcement with outside women contends with his wife’s negative reinforcement inside his marriage.

The following quote was part of a comment from ollieoxenfree in last week’s thread:

Who sees you as a viable long term option and is eager to please (in fact has pleased on many occasions) but is aware you may never reciprocate in kind. Will he waste his best years coveting something he may never have? Wouldn’t it be better to entertain a slightly lesser, suitor and be their top priority?

If a wife can no longer give of herself, does she still see fit to demand the level of investment as when she did? Can a man still appreciate the tacit approval his wife offers him, in not questioning his whereabouts when he’s engaged in an extramarital affair. Does she show affection and support in other ways?
The truth is most women under the influence of the Feminine Imperative don’t support their partners, nor cultivate an understanding with them in regards to the limits of their sexual capacity.

Men, for their part, like to think sexual intercourse with their partners, will always be available, given time and circumstance. The reality is, it isn’t.
Our biologies weren’t meant to tolerate these conditions. Especially with a woman who will constantly shit test you and emasculate you, in every conceivable way she can divine.

A woman will invariably condemn you for your weakness, but expect understanding for hers.

Common Experiences

There is a school of thought about being Red Pill and married that believes that getting a wife (or LTR girlfriend) to accept the ‘new you’ as being impossible. Things may nominally improve due to Dread working, but your new Red Pill marriage will never be what you want it to be because you have improved, she hasn’t and she never wanted you this way in the first place.

I don’t accept this assessment in its entirety, however I do see where this sentiment comes from. Most men who are awakened while married are men who followed the same script as the men I illustrate in Betas in Waiting. These are the men who have ‘done everything right’ for the better part of their lives. They cultivated themselves to be the perfect providers that Sheryl Sandberg would have women believe will be waiting for them when their looks begin to fade and it’s time to cash out of the SMP. These are the men who believe their hard work and perseverance is finally paying off with a women who now find him irresistible because he represents their salvation in long term security and parental investment.

Most women entering their Epiphany Phase are expressly looking for a Beta to take care of them now that the Party Years are coming to an end for her. They’re (ostensibly) done with the Bad Boys (something they had to ‘grow out of’) and now want to do things ‘the right way’. This, of course, suits a Beta in Waiting just fine because his Blue Pill conditioning has prepared him by expecting him to ‘do things the right way’ and to believe any woman wanting to do the same must be a Quality Woman.

These men believe their ship has finally come in, but because of this these men are often the most difficult to unplug. They have the hardest time with Red Pill awareness because in accepting it they must also accept that what led up to their marriage to that Quality Woman was also a result of their Blue Pill conditioning. A lot of their ego is invested in Beta Game and Blue Pill convictions, but also a forced-convincing of themselves that they did everything right and were rewarded for it.

This is why it’s a bitter pill to swallow when that guy’s wife drip-feeds him sex, or he discovers her sexual best was reserved for another man in her past, or she tells him she loves him, but she’s not in love with him. Even in the face of outright disrespect or his Beta confirmations of failed shit tests, he’ll still refuse to acknowledge his state. Often it’s only prolonged sexlessness (and even this is rationalized for a long time) that motivates him to seek the answers of Red Pill awareness.

The Beta in Waiting never had Frame before or during his marriage. In fact, it was just that lack of Frame that made him marriage material for his wife. He was never “Alpha” for her, and in his equalist mindset he believed this was what set him apart and attractive then.

So going from this very strong Beta initial impression to an Alpha position of dominance can be all but impossible – particularly if his self-confirmed status was that of being a proud Beta.

There are other men who’ll report having had an Alpha status prior to their marriage, but they lost it somewhere along the way. They were the Alpha backsliders who possibly entered into the marriage with a dominant Frame, but this dissolved as his wife’s Frame or insecurities about him came to dominate their relationship. I think this is likely the scenario that provides the most believability when a man becomes awakened while married, because it is a return to a prior impression (or one his wife had hoped he’d find) and therefor more believable when he does.

The ‘tamed’ Alphas are also the guys with wives who’ll try to actively minimize his Red Pill transformation. Their wives are simultaneously aroused by this rekindling of his Alpha dominance and fearful that he will come to see her as the failed investment she likely is for him. That may or may not be the actual case for him, but for her it will prompt possessiveness, surveillance and a control over how he’s allowed to ‘appropriately’ express this dominance – which in turn disqualifies it.

In the last installment of this series I will outline some ways in which a Red Pill man might go about internalizing this transformation, how that might manifest itself in an authentic way, and also the pitfalls to be aware of that can stifle it.

556 comments

  1. Ollie
    Here’s an example of a strong minded, independent woman talking about women, taking responsibility for themselves.

    Here’s an example of a confused woman who doesn’t know what attracts men.

    I respect the fact a woman may not want a relationship, for whatever reason.

    They all want a man, with the exception of lesbians (most of the time). The problem is they self-rank higher SMV than they really have all too often, until the Epiphany phase.

    Just as I respect the fact a man shouldn’t feel pressured to commit to a woman who clearly isn’t right for him.

    Sure, because men and women are exactly the same, except women can have babies, right Ollie?

    Comments like ‘cat lady’ etc display a rank hypocrisy that does nothing for this sphere of ideas and erudition.

    kfg already covered this.

  2. “Damn, I’m good. I gotta find a way to bottle this kind of influence.”

    Tomassi, I keep trying to tell you, stop short of nothing but world domination.

    Here’s the cincher though, you can’t fence sit on your values and morals. You must embrace your so called biases, you must stop acting as if your red pill is just amoral, not prescriptive, so not your spiritual problem. Why? Because I hear a quiver in your voice when you speak, and when you write, an attempt to cover all your bases.

    Of course you have influence. Unfortunately some of that influence is pretty damn ugly and it doesn’t need to be.

  3. @insanity

    The reason he “covers his bases”, or rather takes a step to chew some of this food for you and others, if because he’s worldlier than you.

    Do you watch much T.V.? Or movies?

    I just saw LA LA Land. And in it the whole story is RICH people having lives, taking risks, “making it.” Why do they bother to make such a distinction?

    My brother tells me how in the Super Girl tv show as of late they’re trying hard to make the girl less of a Mary Sue. Coincidence?

    Rollo and his work are getting attention now. More men like him are sending the cooks back to the kitchen to rethink their recipes.

    You women don’t want equality if it means men will begin to challenge you and hit you in the face and ruin you like we do each other in the arena of life.

    Get ready to get your hand squeezed like you never had it squeezed before.

    Your daughters wont be able to run far enough.

  4. @ Novaseeker

    Re: The “Alpha female” discussion

    “The marriages and LTRs I have known who are the happiest seem to be ones where there is good polarity between the two, but also not where the wife is the de facto day to day lead. It may not be an express captain/first-officer relationship, but this is what it is de facto, even if the couple says outwardly that they are egalitarian. The wording doesn’t matter — what matters is what the couple actually *does* and how the relationship actually *works*. That format seems to be the one that works, de facto, the best, and not egalitarian/complementarian in a de facto sense.”

    You have accurately described my long-term marriage except for the “wife not day to day lead” part. Men who can accommodate this relationship model, might vet possible partners looking for clues as to compatibility.

    My wife has always deferred to me in a captain/first-officer relationship on the small basket of stuff I care about, and she has never wanted headship in the marriage. She also manages many of the large basket details and most often seeks my approval after the fact.

    For example, when we had just begun dating, impulsively, we went to the beach without securing a motel reservation. I didn’t have much money and the unspoken plan was that we would either find a place or return the same day. I unsuccessfully tried walk-in reservations in a few places. We spent the day and it was time to either get a room or drive her home.

    She said, “Let me try one more time.” I gave her my credit card, and waited in the car as she walked into the reservation office. She came out bursting with excitement. Not only had she scored a room, but the clerk offered her the honeymoon suite at the price of a regular room. Then, pricelessly, she asked if it was OK since she had not cleared it with me before accepting. The room was a second floor ocean-view balcony suite with a double spa tub. Yes, it was OK!

    I was very decidaphobic, and unwittingly extreme vetted her—dating 4 years, live-in girlfriend 2 years. (Defying red pill conventions.) She loves to tell people that she gave me a marriage ultimatum.

  5. @If-I-Fell

    You did it right by accident. When you gave her a chance to find you two a room and she pulled through she did it for YOU more than anything. And from the look of it you didn’t make her regret trying. Her making choices is her performing for you and relieving her stress by proving to herself that she’s useful to you. No defiance of Red Pill there.

  6. “The reason he “covers his bases”, or rather takes a step to chew some of this food for you and others, if because he’s worldlier than you. Do you watch much T.V.? Or movies?”

    I’m really going to have to get a bigger face palm.

  7. “I’m really going to have to get a bigger face palm.”

    And that’s your version of Frame control here? Good luck with that.

    All I’m hearing are your rusty breezes
    Pushing around your weather vane Jesus.
    In a background, at the start, is the sound of a loon.

    I’d prefer a man’s faith in himself. A mother’s faith in her son’s innocence. (A model that can’t be replicated by a woman other than a mother, so be it.) About any country and it’s faith in a man’s fallibility. And about women, just lying there, all her faith bleeding out into the latest snowbank. No one’s interested in something you didn’t do (esp. for your man).

    No one here is actually going to sit around waiting around for you to do something. We got a better plan.

    And it is called enlightened self interest. You’re welcome to follow along for the ride.

    Illimitable Man MAXIM #3: “Women’s love is admiration built upon respect. Women are drawn to men of experience and power. Man’s love is respect built upon desire. Men are drawn to women of innocence and vulnerability. When a woman no longer admires, and a man no longer sacrifices, love is lost. It is a delicate balance, for respect is lost when either fails in their capacity. Man sacrifices, woman admires, that is love.”

    IM MAXIM #20: “Your mother is the only woman who will love you for you, rather than your power. Corollary: if your mother was a heartless narcissist, you have never known and shall never know a woman’s least conditional love.”

    IM MAXIM #21: “If you compare a potential love interest to your mother, your love interest will disappoint you. Corollary: unless your mother was a narcissist, in which case you will get exactly what you expect.”

    IM MAXIM #25: “The optimized female sexual strategy compartmentalizes the roles of men. We call this female sexual plurality. Women have a dual nature to control and be controlled, for their fluidity permits great perversity. With the dominant, she can satiate her masochism. With the submissive, she can satiate her sadism. In this way she indulges her lust for power with the submissive man, and her lust to feel feminine with the dominant.”

    IM MAXIM #26: “If she is with a submissive man, she prioritizes her happiness. If she is with a dominant man, she prioritizes his. With the dominant man, making him happy makes her happy. The submissive man’s happiness has no such effect, so she deems it irrelevant.”

  8. @Ollie

    You might have missed this:

    https://therationalmale.com/2015/03/13/bachelor-nation/

    The original video was taken down, but it is called “Frustrated: Black American Men in Brazil – Why?” and you can search for background information about it.

    In a feminine-primary social order to be a ‘responsible’ man is to comply with dictates of women’s sexual strategy while accepting her dominant and counter-feminine role and demeanor. To be a ‘real man’ he must accept being relegated to being her dependent while still being expected to be a good father. To be an ‘adult’ he must accept the doctrines of equalism while still being beholden to the responsibilities of conventional complementarianism.

    Good luck with that dude. Thank you for your concern (trolling).

  9. Whilst I may be pre-empting what Rollo will address in his third book, what would people think would be the one, most important factor an RP father could instill into his early teen daughter?

    I’m cognisant that there may be many factors that should be considered, but interested in what people think would be the main one.

  10. If you give it away it ain’t worth nothing

    Or the more partners you have, the less happy you will be in the long run (science not conjecture)

    Don’t be a feminist

    Be feminine, it’s very fulfilling for women (the corollary to being a feminist)

  11. @ SJF

    RE: Deida

    Doesn’t Deida’s polling women about what they want in a spiritual communion invalidate the process because he is listening to what women say and not what they do? He is ignoring the hindbrain dual nature of womens’ sexual strategy. Rollo has written that women will name all the noble traits they want in public; then fuck the hot guy at the foam canon party (someone has to enlighten me about what that is—never went on spring break.) Also, Deida’s stages sounds more like a religion. Doesn’t Scientology have a program where the adherent either advances or maintains a stage of enlightenment?

    You quoted Deida about older women. The one that said that as a woman ages her “psychic weight” increases. Being somewhat of an intellectual lightweight, I got a chuckle when, in my mind, I changed the word “psychic” to “physical”. My honest take was that older women become infertile, look old and get crabby, but their value increases. That sounds like a buffer to me.

    I Love your commentary. I admire that you use this as source material to fuel your transformation. I believe that you are a better Deida than Deida.

  12. @ bloomfy

    Agent P +1

    Satisfaction is found serving her man, children, community with as trusted an Alpha she can find at the helm.

  13. “…you must stop acting as if your red pill is just amoral, not prescriptive, so not your spiritual problem. ”

    RP affords exercise of freewill, unencumbered by feminist distortion, cultural rot.

    IMO RP promotes a stable spiritual development, beyond the confusing din of modern Christianity.

    Scales from the eyes.

  14. @If-I-Fell

    There may or may not be a Hawthorne Effect in polling girls about what virtues and traits they would prefer in an Alpha Seed Male.

    Women say and do things covertly all the time and it helps to open your eyes to them. But if you allow them, esp. these days with open Hypergamy, sometimes they just come out and say shit. (My wife is doing this quite a bit these days, esp. with the Trumpening).

    And you are conflating what women want in a beta bucks male to what they want in an alpha male.

    If you are skeptical, then why do the traits that women were polled on–Presence, Intellegence (among the intelligent social classes), Strength, Passion, Direction, and Humor– so parallel to Dynamic, Passionate, and Authentic irreducible traits that Sentient proposes as attractive Alpha?

    Also, consider not overthinking this red pill and game stuff. You know the saying it’s better to have a firearm and not need it for self defense, rather than the opposite? Well what the hell is so bad about having those masculine traits.

    Now it is true that women play a covert game, but if you draw them out (secret society) style, or observe them closely, what can be observed is sometimes quite remarkably different that what they would have led you to believe.

    I had an epiphany moment last year. I had a discussion (argument) with my wife and I was quite forceful and overt. It had something to do with fight club (fight), without talking about fight club (red pill). And somehow I brought up that list of attributes that men and women want in the other sex. Well my wife stormed off and stewed about it and she came back and had some overt news for me. Something that never would have come to the surface if it had not been provoked.

    Keep in mind that this series by Rollo is labeled The Reconstruction. And I was in a process of Reconstruction. My wife came by with this list. (Yes it’s kind of embarrassingly personal, but I don’t mind sharing if it proves a point or helps the process of opening someones eyes.)
    She wrote this out in some cute feminine handwriting on a notepad and tore the sheet out of the binder and handed it to me:

    What I Want:

    1. My husband to stop yelling when he argues with me. (My ears hurt & the neighbors can hear)

    2. My husband to ask me “how are you feeling”.

    3. Listen to me when I say how I’m feeling–give rubs.

    4. Protect Me

    5. By my partner @ home.

    6. Be Fun!!! and Have good sex.

    Now that was a holy shit moment, because do you really think I haven’t wanted or actually been doing or attempting those things for the last 27 years? And prior to this the sex hadn’t been flowing on demand (but/and after that the dam kind of burst open quite a bit more in the sexual flow of things). It doesn’t matter what I had been doing, it matters how she perceives what the hell I’ve been doing all along. And it matters greatly whether she views me as a Beta or an Alpha. What I actually accomplish doesn’t matter if she perceives me as Beta, it makes a huge difference if she perceives me as More Alpha and Alpha enough. I have become more Alpha and more fearless and it makes all the difference in the world.

    And the feminine primary social conventions sometimes slip out if you provoke them. A couple years ago we were wandering around at a college tail-gater with a cooler and I was attempting to lead her (as a sober designated driver) around the stadium and decide where to end up. She she didn’t want to go along willingly with my decision and she stated something like ” everyone knows that if an outside arbiter would see us, they would side with me the woman, rather that a creepy old man like you”. And just last night after I worked all day and returned home late from an NHL game, (after a disagreement last night) she went to initiate in bed. I told her to come and get it, cause I’m tired. She voiced ” What?, I’m tired too, and everyone knows that girls get to just lay here and have the D come to them”. Feminine primary social conventions are ingrained but manageable via Game.

    As to your comment about older women, it has been said a few times before: The value of a woman after fucking her is self evident if you open your eyes and pay attention. (and it’s not a given.) Youth does give way to strong character in some women and you can always pray that she doesn’t lose her face, form or figure. Or move on.

    Masculine enlightenment and self improvement is not for nothing. It’s fun. And it works. It’s not religion. Religion is Ideology, this is Praxeology. The difference between what should be and what works. And the three Deida stages Dependence, Independence and Interdependence only make sense if your sexual strategy is actually working for you in a positive fashion. It’s depressing and non-believable if that strategy is not working.

  15. IM Maxim 8. – “The battle of the sexes is the only war where crushing the opposition isn’t victory. No, a man must avoid checkmate and stalemate, he must continuously put his woman in check. This and only this is victory for both sides.”

    Beautiful.

  16. “It doesn’t matter what I had been doing, it matters how she perceives what the hell I’ve been doing all along.”

    My inflection point: speaking, doing masculine, understanding its perception by the feminine, while not stifling the feminine.

    SJF, brother, I can’t thank you enough.

  17. Foam cannon? I have two: One for the bedroom and the other for whole-house orgies. Seemed reasonable at the time.

  18. IB is simply dumbfounded that anyone might hold a spiritual belief and still be committed to objective reality. A guy like Dalrock is a consummate statistician with both secular and scriptural information who then applies that fire to the feet of IB’s church. Donalgaeme selects principles I or Dal or Vox discuss and then asks tough questions from the same cohort IB would have us all believe should be untouchable.

    IB you are a christian feminist fish that doesn’t know it’s wet from swimming in the Feminine Imperative’s waters. Every perspective you’ve ever written about has always been you putting female-primary interests above that of what anyone would consider “Christian” doctrine. What you have a problem with isn’t me or anyone else in the ‘sphere being amoral or objective at the cost of conviction in our assessments, but rather how those assessments reflect on a failing church that’s traded its soul for being relevant to secular feminism in an effort to stay financially solvent by appealing to women like you. I’ve stated in many posts that the Red Pill is a far better predictor of human behavior than feminism has ever been, and I’d also say that of the modern church because it’s aligned itself so closely with that influence as to be unrecognizable.

    After this 3rd book I may have plans to write a Red Pill appeal to mainstream Christian men (the ones trapped on the church’s Beta farm) either with or without Dal’s direct input (i’ve reached out to him on 3 occasions now). You won’t agree with a chapter in it because it will strip away the veneer of christian sentimentalism that the Feminine Imperative relies upon to keep those men on the church’s plantation. But it will do exactly what you ask of me, it will be an appeal to men of conviction to open their eyes to seeing how that conviction has been used to make them compliant slaves beholden to old books social and spiritual contracts while making them the perfect Beta chumps ready to accommodate the more ‘perfected’, more closer to God, women in their congregations who insist on the entitlements of a christianized feminism without calling it feminism.

    Yes, that’ll be a book I’ll write soon.

  19. @Rollo Tomassi: “After this 3rd book I may have plans to write a Red Pill appeal to mainstream Christian men (the ones trapped on the church’s Beta farm)”. Such a book will not only help Christian men, but also millions of men trapped in the Hinduism and Buddist beta farms. Feminism has taken root in many main stream religions (except Islam – where women are not exalted at the detriment of masculinity) – and millions of men feel lost with no other option but to continue to “man up” and be a slave on the plantation.

  20. “But it will do exactly what you ask of me, it will be an appeal to men of conviction to open their eyes to seeing how that conviction has been used to make them compliant slaves beholden to old books social and spiritual contracts while making them the perfect Beta chumps ready to accommodate the more ‘perfected’, more closer to God, women in their congregations who insist on the entitlements of a christianized feminism without calling it feminism.”

    Huh. Fascinating Tomassi, I encourage you to do just that. I’m not the least bit concerned about men of faith finding their conviction and rising up. That would be awesome.

    “….the more ‘perfected’, more closer to God, women in their congregations..”

    That one really sticks in your craw doesn’t it? I’m so sorry for the self righteous ones, the so called spiritually superior, the mental abuse some have suffered under that system. That drives more people away from Jesus Christ than anything else I can think of. And yes, woman are the absolute worst when it comes to that self righteous, hypocritical spirit. By far.

    I may give you a hard time Tomassi, but that is not coming from a place of perceived spiritual superiority or this belief that my soul is somehow purer than yours. Fallen woman here, totally. I’ve never had any illusions about that. It’s Christ’s purity that reigns, His perfection that’s seated in victory, not mine.

  21. Yes, that’ll be a book I’ll write soon.

    Hai dozo, and whenever it arrives will not be a moment too soon. Even now, a small cadre is working behind the lines to extract men from the impenetrable fog and lead them to daylight. They could make good use of a targeted exposition.

  22. “men of faith”

    Your definiion suits your purpose.

    “Fallen woman here, totally. I’ve never had any illusions about that.”

    Virtue-signaling humblebrag.

    ” And yes, woman are the absolute worst when it comes to that self righteous, hypocritical spirit. By far.”

    Obvious feint.

  23. Look IB. Generally we have little effect on a lot of people, but have enormous effect on a few.

    Don’t you have a grandkid or close social circle to evangelize? Flailing proselytizing here isn’t valor, convincing, glorious, whatever.

    You’re not helping your cause even. I’m assuming no one listens to you there either. Honestly, no joke.

    I grew up with 70’s feminist-religion sisters. Heard all this 40 years ago. Stupid then, stupid now. Both them divorced. Congrats aligning yourself again with failure.

  24. Tolerance isn’t acceptance. Like herpes, I accept your (FI) existence. To hell if I ain’t gonna put rhetorical Abreva on it.

  25. Much in the same way that single Red Pill guys will (initially) focus on Red Pill awareness and Game in order to eventually connect with their Dream Girls, so too does the MRP guy. The difference being that he’s convinced he’s already married to his dream girl

    This certainly doesn’t fit me because I don’t see Mrs. Gamer as my “dream girl”. Maybe I did once, many moons ago, but no longer. I don’t think of “dream girl” as a useful concept.

  26. @SJF

    “In a feminine-primary social order to be a ‘responsible’ man is to comply with dictates of women’s sexual strategy while accepting her dominant and counter-feminine role and demeanor. To be a ‘real man’ he must accept being relegated to being her dependent while still being expected to be a good father. To be an ‘adult’ he must accept the doctrines of equalism while still being beholden to the responsibilities of conventional complementarianism.”

    This is the absolute truth. Which is why I posted the ‘being single over 30’ video.
    The women, Dawn talks about in this video, are the women depicted here. They want to be the dominant party in the relationship. They also want their partner’s mind-set to be in sync with the concept of equality among the sexes, while conversely holding the tenets of the old school social order, of a man providing for a woman.
    Dawn is aware of this, hence the use of the term ‘negative’ energy. It’s a catch-all phrase meant, to include the contemptuous attitude women have towards men in a feminine-primary social order. Dawn is saying her peers need to dial it in. Whether the women are consciously aware of it or not, they’re sub-communicating, male, gender loathing and a generation of men brought up by single mothers are attuned to it.

    PUAs subscribe to the idea, you attract what you are. When Dawn talks about the demands these women have, for a potential mate, she realises none of these women are worthy of what they seek. Which leads her to appeal to these women to provide for themselves in order to fulfill themselves (empowerment) and attract the status spouse they desire (hypergamy).
    This last sentence, will fall on deaf ears.
    This is where, what feminism espouses and reality, violently, clash.
    Most women don’t want the burden of doing for themselves. Not when there are these things called men, who will do it for them. The trouble isn’t just the unappealing demeanour of these women, but the fact the feminine imperative has created men (if indeed you can call them that) who wholly, identify with a woman’s role.
    Men who reinforce the strong, independent woman schema for their own ends and become stay at home dads (for instance).
    Allowing their wives to provide for them.
    This arrangement is anaemic to any, but a small number of successful, career minded women.
    Women’s own nature finds this abhorrent. Yet this is an unintended consequence of feminism.

    Women who voted for President Trump did so in part, so men had an example of what he should be. What he should aspire to. I’m not saying women condone the more unsavoury aspects of his personality, but everything about him screams winner. Women love nothing more.

  27. “My husband does not like younger women.”

    Hell, I don’t *like* em but they make me feel funny in my penis so…

    I do prefer them over older, midlife women for sure though…I’ll take “vain, shallow, self absorbed, completely unaware” over “vain, shallow, self-absorbed, completely unaware, AND OLD” any day of the week.

  28. Mini FR: I lapsed and asked a girl where she’d prefer to go the other night. Her response was: “I’d be happier if you just *told* me where we’re going and when.”

    Leading, fellas, straight from the horse’s mouth.

  29. It is so sad to watch the way these churchian women treat their men.So much disrespect for the men that provide their very sustenance of life.
    It is funny to hear these churchian women bragg and boast on their husbands then turn right around and treat them like dirt in public,as if all that boasting is just a shit test for the guy they really want just to see if he has any balls still as her husbands have been removed by a constant barrage of bitchy guilt an fake shame.

    “After this 3rd book I may have plans to write a Red Pill appeal to mainstream Christian men (the ones trapped on the church’s Beta farm) either with or without Dal’s direct input (i’ve reached out to him on 3 occasions now). You won’t agree with a chapter in it because it will strip away the veneer of christian sentimentalism that the Feminine Imperative relies upon to keep those men on the church’s plantation. But it will do exactly what you ask of me, it will be an appeal to men of conviction to open their eyes to seeing how that conviction has been used to make them compliant slaves beholden to old books social and spiritual contracts while making them the perfect Beta chumps ready to accommodate the more ‘perfected’, more closer to God, women in their congregations who insist on the entitlements of a christianized feminism without calling it feminism.”

    I will buy ten copies,forget about the price.

  30. Now Jesus,there was a cool dude never got married,went fishing whenever he felt like it,made the best home brew.
    The most famous and powerful man to ever walk the face of the earth.
    It would appear as if he just loved to go to church and discuss things with the feminist sympathisers of his day.probably would run em all out for having a bake sale.

  31. It’s funny, but is it purple, red or blue?

    It’s a TV show that is intended to get eyeballs and therefore ratings and therefore advertising.
    Better that Girls… but what isn’t?

  32. @ EhIntellect

    Thanks for the foam cannon visual!

    I take RM commentary with me in mp3 format. Coincidentally, I was taking a mid-day walk today on a busy sidewalk when your comment, “Thanks for calling EhIntellect’s Submission Hotline” played. I burst into laughter, startling the people around me.

  33. @ ollieoxenfree1

    I enjoyed your computer OS analogy. While coming to an identical conclusion, I would propose that the firmware is a confusing mix of basic routines; many routines favoring blue pill. The OS is a mix of blue pill and red pill. The system has installed an anti-malware program to remove the blue code. The blue code is insidious, and the anti-malware must be constantly upgraded to remove as much of the blue as possible and prevent more blue from returning. Oh, hell, like you said, Over to you Rollo.

  34. @ If-I-Fell

    You’re welcome.

    Speaking of submission, was out past my bedtime last night, suit and tie as usual. 20-ish 190 pound drunkard demands I fight…I look to side step, he clacks my jaw with his elbow. O.K. here goes. After seeing no real option to walk away he, fists up, hulks my direction. I step-push his thigh away x 2, imbalance him. He’s really drunk, I figure out, from the wobble. At that point he goes for a two-leg take down, I sprawl, he’s facedown, I’m in back mount, throw a rear naked choke and ride his energy down.

    He finally after 60 seconds he taps, and it was over. h/t SJF I was DD, and sober enough.

    Weird, I was rather calm, honestly. I’m no fighter, I just didn’t feel it was out of the ordinary. IDK if this happened 6 months ago? Yeah, it’d been a rush and I’d of brooded about it too.

  35. “I don’t know why Brad would still want Angelina. She is no longer a woman”, I said.

    Wait for it… Wait for it…

    “That’s an awful thing to say; she has cancer in her family, and she had no choice,” she said.

    This argument occurred after Angelina underwent her “de-womanizing” surgery, and before the “Brad is a drunken child abuser” incident.

    This left the question—why did she have the surgery and why does calling a woman a eunuch raise such an emotional response from a woman, concerning a woman that she doesn’t know or really care about?

    I am going to assert (without proof or study) that the reason is sexual retirement from a beta (or even an Alpha).

    I assert that women in hormonal decline (perimenopause) have a subconscious or conscious desire to retire from sex while holding onto their position and status. I believe this is a different dynamic from the operational cycling woman—dead bedroom. In this case, she doesn’t want sex from anyone, as opposed to she wants sex with someone, just not you. The feminine imperative is pushing sexual retirement as a women’s rights issue.

    For a better explanation of the sexual retirement dynamic and if you want to get angry, read Lori Ann Lothian’s article “When He Wants Sex and You Don’t.” Basically, Lori has had her bad boy sex and now instead of using HRT and making the effort, she wants to retire. She says that she is more creative when hormonally depleted and her cuck husband is understanding and supportive.

    Getting back to Angie—she opted for surgery to decouple her nipple from the rest of her breast and had all the breast tissue scooped out. It sounds kind of like hollowing out a pumpkin. Then, in place of the womanly tissue had a saline bag inserted. Then, she had her vagina decoupled and all the parts north removed. She has only one more female specific body part, the modified “V”, than Bruce/Caitlyn. (She also has the XX setup.)

    Medically, the surgery is supported as a way of reducing the cancer risk. But, apparently, there is still a risk from cells not removed and cells in other parts of the body.

    Now, I have an argument with the wife every time she says she wants to go off HRT.

    At this point, many guys blue and red will think I’m an asshole. After all, the FI is telling women to stay on HRT short-term to relieve symptoms and the risk of blood clots and woman-related cancers is increased. To the contrary, it is my understanding the increased cancer risk touted as doubled can be as small as a change of 1:100,000 to 2:100,000.

    Suzanne Sommers has written multiple books in support of bioidentical hormone replacement that cover HRT in detail. This may be a good resource for men whose women have begun hormonally misfiring.

    So, here’s the point of my long comment and how it relates to the topic of Reconstruction.

    I don’t think many men who comment on this site would proactively remove their testicles even facing an increased risk of male-related cancers topping 5:10.

    I perceive Angie’s action as a super-mega-nuclear-scorched-earth shit test. I think Brad’s play was, “OK, surgery, yep, I’m out of here. Enjoy your sexual retirement.” Instead, he was understanding beta Brad, staying with his wife through her traumatic and brave surgery. We all know how his supportiveness was rewarded.

    BEFORE ATTEMPTING THE RECONSTRUCTION OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH A WOMAN IN OR CLOSE TO PERIMENOPAUSE, FACTOR IN HER STAND ON HRT.

    Someone made the comment about OMGs dealing with the wife’s drop in SMV. The SMV drop is expected and not a terribly big factor for OMGs committed to their wives/LTRs.

    Here is the real issue—have you ever seen a woman after a long absence and it looks like she went 12 rounds with Mike Tyson? The answer is she either is going through or has gone through menopause and has decided to go natural “hormone free”.

    One of the most chilling statements on the subject (and I can’t find the source) was from a surgeon who performs hysterectomies. He said that if a woman undergoes the surgery and opts not to have HRT, she can expect to visually age about 10 years in 10 months.

    I have been wanting to get this out of my head and on paper! Whew…

    On a separate note, I plan to return to listen-only mode, as I need to focus on ringing the cash register. My backstory: In my 50s I had my “career horse” (not just job, but entire field) shot out from under me. I received no help from those for whom I had performed miracles. I got a new “horse”, but now it is time to put on the red glasses, take up the sword and level-up.

    Writing has never been a quick, natural process for me. I hope I have added some value, and plan to return once I have made financial progress. A continued thank you to everyone; you are all an inspiration to me.

    @ Rollo, A continued thank you for your tremendous gift to the internet. Reading and listening to your essays increases my brain function. I vow to monetize, buy 2 copies of RM, and initiate my Son.

    If-I-Fell, Out

  36. @insanity

    Oh yeah, I’m so riding that train. Who wrote this stuff, SJF? It’s fabulous. Hook me up and I’m out of here. Tomassi will probably thank you.

    Recently, Mrs. Gamer and I were at various airports. Mrs. Gamer typically is very nervous about making flights and all kinds of shit related to airports and she confuses things a lot. She will run up to ask someone a question about flights/baggage/whatever and that question is often the wrong question and she sometimes interrupts a convo, where I am asking someone a question, by asking her question. When Mrs. Gamer does this, it only confuses things. I finally tired of her doing this and told her to just follow me and we had no more problems.

    We had once gone to the wrong gate because of my mistake when flights were only listed for the particular terminal we were at and our flight was at another terminal. Mrs. Gamer questioned whether the gate was correct and I found the info desk to check and found out where we were to go. We got to the correct gate in plenty of time. There was no drama from me about any of this, but Mrs. Gamer DID try to take control by running in front of me and asking questions of other people.

    Mrs. Gamer several times questioned my decisions when my decisions were later proved correct.

    tl;dr Men make mistakes. Men excel at solving problems. Women are sometimes useful for finding problems and sometimes report problems when there aren’t any. “Submission” allows women to ask questions of their man.

  37. ” . . . the surgery is supported as a way of reducing the cancer risk.”

    And let us not mention the risk of the elective surgery itself.

    ” . . . it is my understanding the increased cancer risk touted as doubled can be as small as a change of 1:100,000 to 2:100,000.”

    Once upon a time there was a guy who took out a mortgage on his house, because he figured that increasing his odds in the state lottery 40,000 times meant he couldn’t lose. Of course he lost.

    Always check the absolute odds. 40,000 times nil is still nil.

    I recommend you check those odds against things you do every day without considering them so risky as to be avoided. Climb a staircase, take a shower, drive to work, etc.

    I would also suggest that there is real value in coming to terms with the odds of your long term survival. I am currently without health insurance. This has generated a certain amount of consternation among family and friends, who not infrequently ask, “What are you going to do if you have a major illness?”*

    When I answer, “Die, of course,” they are prone to react with horror, as if the idea of actually having to die had never crossed their mind as a possibility. I suppose, in sense, it hasn’t, and they don’t appreciate my pulling back the curtain. There’s a shit ton of cognitive dissonance around the subject.

    *On the flip side, I have had “health care providers” ask, “How are you going to pay for this?,” and when I answer, “With money,” have them also react as if the idea had never occurred to them.

  38. “” . . . it is my understanding the increased cancer risk touted as doubled can be as small as a change of 1:100,000 to 2:100,000.”

    The risk is much more than doubled.
    Statistically, 55 to 65 percent of women with the BRCA1 mutation will get breast cancer and around 45 percent of women who inherit the BRCA2 mutation will develop breast cancer. Those are better than average odds. Mastectomy reduces that risk by 95 percent.

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