Fempowerment

fempowerment

I’m often asked by ‘fempowered’ women critics whether I ‘believe‘ in some of the more socially acceptable tenets of feminism in some sort defense to the affront of my Red Pill lens being cast their way. It’s usually something to do with, “Do you or do you not think women ought to have the right to vote?” or the ever-reliable “Shouldn’t women have the right to do with their bodies what they choose?” These questions are always binary (“yes or no will do”) and usually couched in a context that implies that if you even slightly disagree or have a marginal caveat to answering ‘appropriately’ you’ll be dismissed with a name tag that has “misogynist” printed on it. Say no and you’re a despicable misogynist. Say yes and you’re tar-pitted in “yes, but” caveats – mansplaining – that are disqualified because you’re a man.

Say no and you’re a despicable misogynist. Say yes and you’re tar-pitted in “yes, but” caveats – mansplaining – that are disqualified because you’re a man. Up until recently, it’s been a very effective means of silencing uncomfortable truths about the Feminine Imperative.

I’ve always found it ironic that a movement (feminism) that predicates itself on the ostensibly egalitarian notion that rational, reasonable considerations of issues should lead us to ideals of equality is the first to reduce itself to unquestioned, blind faith binaries at the first sign of rational reasonable truth being unflattering to women. If you want to know who holds power over you, look at whom you aren’t allowed to criticise – or even hint at criticism.

My position on these and many other questions of the sort is usually met with simple observational analysis (as you’d probably expect). I don’t necessarily have a problem with women voting or even having access to legal (relatively safe) abortions. What I have a problem with is the latent purpose behind the reasons that led to women’s decisions to vote a particular way or the latent purposes that brought them to having that abortion. For the greater part, any dubious ‘right’ women feel they were somehow denied in the past usually comes at the expense of men being liable for decisions they had nothing to do with.

What I have a problem with is an expectation of lowering the standards of the game, thus fundamentally altering the game, to better accommodate the variable strengths and weaknesses of women – up to, and including, changing the very nature of women’s environmental realities that would endanger the wellbeing of both sexes. What I take issue with is the expectation of making men liable for the decisions and consequences of the rights and freedom of choices we’ve reserved for only women to make (almost unilaterally Hypergamic choices) that are not in men’s best interests.

I mentioned in Our Sister’s Keeper that men today find themselves in a very precarious position with regard to entertaining women’s perceived wrongs of the past. Men are expected,by default, to be held accountable, for no other reason than they were born men, for past injuries to the ever-changing Feminine Imperative. Your existence as a man today, your failed understanding to accommodate women’s social primacy, your lack of catering to the ambiguous nature of what conveniently passes for masculinity, is a constant stinking affront and obstacle to the “advancement” of women. The Feminine Imperative has known how to manipulate men’s Burden of Performance for millennia, and at not other time in history has it had the unfettered leisure to do so than now.

So, we get socially acceptable default presumptions of ‘male privilege’ without qualifying what it even means, or we get catchy jingoisms like ‘mansplaining’ to give a name to women’s need for silencing men’s inconvenient observations of women’s ‘correct’ perceptions, decisions and the reasons they came to them. We get default presumptions of male guilt for sexual assault and sexual consent as fluidly defined in as convenient a way that serves women’s imperatives. As I’ve mentioned before, the true intent of feminism has never been about establishing a mutually agreed ‘equality’, rather it’s always been about retribution and restitution for perceived past wrongs to the sisterhood.

There has always been a subtext, a cover story, of equality mentioned in the same breath as feminism. Only the most antagonistic asshole, only the most anti-social prick, would be against “equality between the sexes”. Thus, to be against feminism is to be against a simplistic concept of baseline equality. However, taken out of the propagandizing efforts to shame and ‘correct’ men’s imperatives, it’s easy to demonstrate that the true intent of feminism is female ‘fempowerment’ in the dressing of an equality that no man (or woman) wants to appear to be against.

Yellowed Pearls

I found an interesting example of this  Catch 22 in the Economist recently. Pick and choose: Why women’s rights in China are regressing.

In 2007 China’s official Xinhua news agency published a commentary about women who were still unmarried at the age of 27 under the title, “Eight Simple Moves to Escape the Leftover Woman Trap”. The Communist Party had concluded that young Chinese women were becoming too picky and were over-focused on attaining the “three highs”: high education, professional status and income. Newspapers have since reprinted similar editorials. In 2011 one said: “The tragedy is they don’t realise that as women age they are worth less and less, so by the time they get their MA or PhD, they are already old, like yellowed pearls.”

In the last Red Pill Monthly discussion, I mentioned the expansion that the Feminine Imperative has taken on a global scale. One of the old missives of the manosphere has always been about how American women are too far gone to be worth ever entertaining beyond a pump-and-dump consideration. They are too damaged and self-absorbed beyond all redemption, and men ought to expatriate to another country where women are more feminine or at least necessitous enough to appreciate a conventionally masculine man.

I get that. I understand the want for a Poosy Paradise or some promised land where women are still raised to respect and love men by being conventionally feminine. I also get that there exist certain cultures where this is still true, but for all of that, I think it’s important to recognize the social undercurrent that the Feminine Imperative exercises in these cultures. A popular meme on Twitter is ‘Feminism is Cancer’, but there’s a kernel of truth to the humor of this. The spread of the westernizing social primacy of the Feminine Imperative is spreading, not unlike cancer, into what we would otherwise believe were societies and cultures still oppressed by the mythical Patriarchy – a belief necessary to perpetuate the narrative of default female victimhood.

It may not be now, but at some stage, the Feminine Imperative will exercise its presumptive control over even the societies we think ought to be immune from that cancer. As I mention on The Red Pill Monthly, even in underdeveloped countries where we would expect to find the horrible oppression of girls and women, we make a triumphant example of the incidents of where girls (not boys) are taught to read and “think for themselves”. Westernized culture, founded on the Feminine Imperative, celebrates every time a woman in Saudi Arabia is allowed to drive a car, much less run a business on her own as if it were some blow against the tyranny of men.

Little by little, or in leaps and bounds, your second or third world Poosy Paradise will eventually be assimilated by the Feminine Imperative.

I bring this up because, as you’ll read in the linked article, China is also experiencing the long-term results of having adopted feminine social primacy in its own culture. From women’s popular consciousness, we’re still, to this day, told of how horrible “communist” China has been in mandating its one-child policy and how its draconian ‘sons live, daughters die’ social structure has been the result. However, once we reasonably investigate it, we find that China now has a problem with “Yellowed Pearls” as a result of a cultural shift that placed women’s interests as preeminent in that culture. And it should be noted that this shift came about as the direct result of the men who adopted and accommodated the Feminine Imperative as their own.

Now the problem for women in China is not unlike the plight of American women bemoaning the lack of men with “equal” marriageability as themselves. And likewise, the self-same social authorities responsible for institutionalizing the fempowerment of women are now the horrible misogynist villains for suggesting that women ought to lower their unrealistic standards.

The tone of these articles is surprising, given the Communist Party’s past support for women’s advancement. Mao Zedong destroyed China, but he succeeded in raising the status of women. Almost the first legislation enacted by the Communist Party in 1950 was the Marriage Law under which women were given many new rights, including the right to divorce and the right to own property.

Sounds a far cry different from the pictures women, even women in this century, have painted of China’s institutionalized, one-child sexism doesn’t it? Remember, this advancement in women’s rights took place before the Cultural Revolution in China.

Though collectivisation made the latter largely irrelevant, women played an active role in Mao’s China, and still do today. By 2010 26% of urban women had university degrees, double the proportion ten years earlier. Women now regularly outperform men at Chinese universities, which has led to gender-based quotas favouring men in some entrance exams. However, many of the earlier advances have been eroded in recent years by the gradual re-emergence of traditional patriarchal attitudes.

Consider this part in contrast to other industrialized nations and how women have increased their socio-political standing as the result of having the Feminine Imperative adopted as the primary social order of those cultures. Even in cultures that are still popularly deemed “repressive” to women we see educational and socioeconomic parallels to western(ized) cultures. We also see the same resulting consequences and the shifting of blame for them to men. The downside of Yellowed Pearls is placed at the feet of men for not living up to the convenient, feminine-primary definition of what their Burden of Performance ought to mean in promoting and forgiving women’s decisions.

The party has joined an alliance of property companies and dating websites to confront the issue. Government surveys on marriage and property are often sponsored by matchmaking agencies, and perpetuate the perception that being “leftover” is the worst thing that can happen to a woman. They also promote other myths, such as the idea that a man must have a house before he can marry.

As you may expect, the tone of the article is written to emphasize an egalitarian perspective that conflicts with a reality that the Feminine Imperative would have men change or be responsible for not having changed. It’s men’s fault that women might feel bad for not having married by a post-wall age. It’s men’s fault for promoting myths that women would expect that a man must be successfully established in his life and career before any considerations of marriage occur to him. It’s also a man’s fault for clinging to the “myth” that women don’t want him to be established.

The law is reflecting the shift away from women’s empowerment too. An interpretation by the Supreme Court in 2011 of the 1950 Marriage Law stated that, when a couple divorces, property should not be shared equally, but each side should keep what is in his or her own name. This ruling, says Ms Fincher, has serious implications. In the big cities a third of marriages now end in divorce but, based on hundreds of interviews, she finds that only about 30% of married women have their name on the deeds of the marital flat. Women believe the party hype about becoming a “leftover” woman so strongly, she says, that many rush into unhappy marriages with unsuitable men, made on condition that the brides agree not to put their name on the property deeds.

Feminism Would be a Success if Men Would Only Cooperate More

Several years ago Dalrock had a post detailing the sentiment of feminists that feminism would be a success if only men would cooperate with the ideology by abandoning their own interests and sublimating their own biological impulses. The fact remains that feminism and egalitarianism are failed ideologies because at the root level those ideologies ask men to participate in their own extinction. Not only this, but they ask men to raise successive generations to accommodate and participate in their own degradation.

The narrative expects Yellowed Pearls to be prized by men, or respected as Spinsters, or pandered to as ‘Cougars’ while still maintaining men sublimate their own imperatives by willfully ignoring the fact that their own sexual strategy is what is being asked of them to abandon. As I stated in the Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies, for one sex’s strategy to succeed the other must either be compromised or abandoned – what better way is there to assure this for women than to socially mandate through shame, persecution or financial liabilities that men abandon their own strategy in favor of women?

For some time now, I’ve detailed how for the past 4 or 5 generations, there has been a popular social re-engineering effort to raise and condition boys to become the ‘better betas‘ – boys designed to become the supportive male-reinforcers of empowering women’s interests and imperatives.

For a greater part this effort has been primarily focused on boys and men in western society, and while it’s still open for debate, I’d say that westernizing cultures are really the only cultural environments that can afford to entertain this ‘fempowerment’. This is changing radically now if it was ever really the case to begin with.

In the manosphere we like to highlight the ‘pussification’ of modern men through various efforts on the part of a nebulous ‘socitey’ aligned against masculinity. However, the flip side to this is the fempowerment agenda; an feminine-primary social structure that disallows any criticism of inherently female nature while promoting the empowerment of women on every level of social strata.

We coddle and cater to the feminine in every aspect of social interaction, every aspect of academic achievement, every socioeconomic advantage inventable, every story we tell in every form of media and we do so under the threat of not being supportive or misogynistic for suggesting anything marginally pro-masculine. This is the other side of the demasculinization imperative of boys & men – the total consolidation of handicaping men and empowering women into unrealistic effigies of feminine triumphalism.

How do you counter this?

I’m always lauded for describing these social dynamics, but I’m run up the flagpole for not offering concrete ways of dealing with and pushing back on these imperatives. Many a MGTOW will simply suggest men no longer play the Game, that isolationism is the way to go, but this only serves to eventually concede power to the Feminine Imperative. You don’t get to check out of the Game even if you refuse to play it. For all the guys who left for parts unknown to find their demi-utopia of feminine women in a foreign country, even they will explain that the tide of feminism is changing those seemingly idlyic places. And for every guy to voluntarilly go celebate and “refuse to deal with women” I’ll show you a man whose tax dollars go to fund the consequences of women’s legislated rights to Hypergamous choice.

Sooner or later Men will have to confront and push back against both men and women who are convinced of their purpose in idealizing the dictates of the Feminine Imperative. A lot of men in the ‘sphere believe their being clever when they refer to people with this worldview as ‘SJWs’, but for every hair dyed, gender-confused man-woman you see on Twitter there are hundreds of ‘normal’ people who all share similar perspectives – some simply subconscious generalization they’re oblivious to – sitting next to you at church, or working in the cubicle next to you.

As I’ve mentioned countless times, the change needs to take place by appealing to the hearts and minds of Men by making them Red Pill aware from the bottom up, but moreover, we need to live out that awareness in our own lives and lead by Red Pill example. Our decisions in life, our aspiration in parenting, family and career, in our business dealings, in the women we Game and the people we hire, all of these aspects need to take on the perspective of how they fit into pushing back against a feminine-primary world that demands we surrender any thought of individuated male power.

As Men, we need to unapologetically exercise what little power we’re left with to inform this and successive generation of Red Pill truths tactfully, but with strength of conviction in the face of a feminine-primary society bent on our surrender. Life finds a way. Feminism and the consolidation of the Feminine Imperative have failed because Men were not evolved to acquiesce their dominant spirit. On the same evolutionary level women also evolved into requiring that convnetionally masculine dominance. This is why feminism and egalitarianism will ultimately fail – nature simply will not cooperate with it’s own stagnation. As men, we can use this truth to our Red Pill aware advantage.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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“Hell, in the the Feminine Mystique, Betty Friedan actually argued that spoiled, pampered, stay-at-home housewives were oppressed!”

War is peace, Sister.

What they were actually, of course, was bored. Their lives were so easy, and thus without apparent meaning, that they fell into existential angst.

But being women they had to claim special victim status, and so the malady they suffered from, which had been named before their great grandparents were born, had “no name.” Like a sixteen year old girl who believes that no one can understand them because no one has ever been jilted by a boyfriend before.

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KFG writes: >“Hell, in the the Feminine Mystique, Betty Friedan actually argued that spoiled, pampered, stay-at-home housewives were oppressed!” > Genuine happiness *for anyone & everyone* is as elusive as a butterfly…a foray into the O.T. should prove illustrative… How many times do we see Jehovah “angry”, “jealous”, “displeased”, “saddened”, and countless other negative emotions? So here we have the principle Reigning God for most of the last few thousand years showing signs of severe psychological distress. How can that be? He has Everything and He is Everything…and yet his manifestations of melancholy are frequent…leading to some *really* bat shit… Read more »

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@Karen >After vanquishing a particular civilization or culture, the conquerors invariably take on many of the customs and traditions of their victims. Not invariably, but almost always. The reasons why are interesting, but won’t elaborate here. I noticed you alluded to the fate of Ragnar up above. The HC series is also covering the betaization of the Vikings who invaded France in the dark ages- a classic example. They started out as badass Norsemen and those Frenchwomen within 1 generation had turned them into … Frenchmen! Kinda parallels the process I’ve seen happen to badass young bucks who buy into… Read more »

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RT says:

>@Karen, if all you continue to do is offer (typically female) snark, insults and non sequiturs based on your uneducated guesses about TRM I’ll be happy to put you back on the ‘bad girls’ list.

Thus far you’ve proved your worthlessness to any discussion, even the off topic ones.
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I thought we were friends…I always speak so well of you…

*Sighs*

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On anoher note, relevant to the Fempowerment meme, this story illustrates how insane playing with technology to push out The Wall can be when it collides with Hypergamy and a gal trying to keep control of the fruits her biohacking …

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/sofia-vergara-reveals-fianc-joe-5727217

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@Tom

It is refreshing to find someone acquainted with world history.

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“What they were actually, of course, was bored. Their lives were so easy, and thus without apparent meaning, that they fell into existential angst.”

@kfg

Totally agree. It’s only taking them 50 years plus to figure out that work isn’t the answer… Too bad TRM didn’t exist back then (Giving bored house wives something to do by stalking the comments section)

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@kfg “What they were actually, of course, was bored. Their lives were so easy, and thus without apparent meaning, that they fell into existential angst.” Boredom has always been the chief complaint of the privileged class!! “But being women they had to claim special victim status, and so the malady they suffered from, which had been named before their great grandparents were born, had “no name.” Like a sixteen year old girl who believes that no one can understand them because no one has ever been jilted by a boyfriend before.” Women are masters in the black art of victimhood… Read more »

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“These princesses have the most successful scam going. They get to live lives of leisure while being rewarded for victim status.” For whatever it’s worth my wife is one of these princesses, and I’d get a fairly regular dose of “WAH, my life is so HARD…” It’s difficult to hold back because of how utterly absurd it is… Well, it’s been good month since I’ve gotten any complaining… I just stopped responding to it. Like, I wouldn’t even acknowledge that she was speaking at all. Worked like a charm! haha. Who knew it could be so easy. Loading...

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Fuck. I’ve just realized how much of a herb I’ve become. I’ve been with a girl I truly love for 2.5 years and I’m thinking about getting married (I know..). She’s generally sweet, and feminine, but I’m beginning to see the threads at the edges of our relationship begin to unravel. 1) She starts talking about marriage, then tells me she doesn’t want to change her last name – we’re both doctors and her rationale is that she does not want to go through the process of changing all the professional/legal documents. It’s too much to ask. Notably, her best… Read more »

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>For whatever it’s worth my wife is one of these princesses, and I’d get a fairly regular dose of “WAH, my life is so HARD…” It’s difficult to hold back because of how utterly absurd it is… Well, it’s been good month since I’ve gotten any complaining… I just stopped responding to it. Like, I wouldn’t even acknowledge that she was speaking at all. Worked like a charm! haha. Who knew it could be so easy.
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That you subsidize such indolence invalidates any claim you might make to being a “red-pill” male…lol.

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@Andy lol. If she worked, she would whine about that. It’s how they manipulate us. The thing is: stay at home mommying is not difficult. There’s no rush-hour drive, no taxes, no boss to please, no customers, zero risk of occupational injury, no deadlines, no cut-throat competitive work place politics. Can’t be fired for cause. And if she is fired, she gets a severance package of half of your income. After two years, children become easily managed. After five, it turns into a party time kush job. Last September at 9 AM., the stay at home moms across the street… Read more »

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Milo Fan,

Keep this in mind. She is far past her prime. You are not yet at the height of your SMV. If you stay in shape, develop decent game, and once you become established in your profession, you will be able to score like you won’t believe.

If she wants to marry you, you set the terms. She needs you more than you need her.

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@Karen

I acquaint myself with all the world history the History Channel and Starz, and Netflix, have to offer … wait a minute …

Stop buttering me up! I refuse to be pegged …

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“I don’t really want to but I love her.”

And so we author our own tragedy to star in.

” I’ve invested a lot of myself into this relationship . . .”

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/how-the-sunk-cost-fallacy-makes-you-act-stupid.html

“Is there any way for me to reclaim hand in the relationship?”

First, reclaim your self.

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Dionysus says: >lol. If she worked, she would whine about that. It’s how they manipulate us. That is hilarious. Here is an Essential Truth I will dispense free of charge… In a marital contract, the individual in the lesser financial position has everything to gain…while the well-to-do partner has everything to lose. What thinking person willfully assumes liability? I sort of observe humanity at a distance…and I cannot help but be confounded by the extraordinarily pervasive masochism endemic to your species. But this is not rare. If one thinks it odd that someone would willfully sign their life savings over… Read more »

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“These princesses have the most successful scam going. They get to live lives of leisure while being rewarded for victim status.”

How self aware are these types of women? I’ve never met an accomplished woman with this attitude except when it comes to a divorce. I suspect this attitude prevents accomplishment. This might be why the percentage of women in the STEM fields only approaches that of men in developing countries. There are just not enough resources in developing countries to pull off this scam.

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“Like, I wouldn’t even acknowledge that she was speaking at all. Worked like a charm!”

Not that it matters, but I suppose I should mention that I have been happily rewarding her with attention when she is pleasant. Also, no real negative attention when she complains… just… uninterested.

Training her you might say. Like a dog.

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The Duchess writes:

>What thinking person willfully assumes liability?

I sort of observe humanity at a distance…and I cannot help but be confounded by the extraordinarily pervasive masochism endemic to your species.
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But pondering this dynamic further…I realize that a person will never see what they are not predisposed to see…and I derive sustenance from this bit of epiphany.

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@Karen

It’s not masochism. Here’s what happens: the sex and love cause the male brain to flood with certain chemicals which get them high. The men become addicted. Males, especially beta males with few options, are easily manipulated in this state. And women are experts at manipulation.

Existence of these contracts is proof of the expertise of female manipulation. Females are so manipulative, they have actually convinced everyone women are victims of these contracts. It’s ingenious!!

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Mile Fan “I’m just not sure where to go from here.” Get thee to the nearest college campus… stroll about. have a look around. Grab a coffee, breath in the air. Do you feel anything? Go past Sorority Row… linger… Go hit the campus bar when the sun goes down. Anything yet? There is your answer… FWIW – Last name is just a huge shit test… she is hoping you will pass it. and yes you CAN regain hand but that will not preclude further routine shit testing… get used to it if you intend to get married. Lastly –… Read more »

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Eric Clapton says:

>Training her you might say. Like a dog.

I think you have the facts reversed…

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@Radium “How self aware are these types of women? I’ve never met an accomplished woman with this attitude except when it comes to a divorce. I suspect this attitude prevents accomplishment. This might be why the percentage of women in the STEM fields only approaches that of men in developing countries. There are just not enough resources in developing countries to pull off this scam.” I think they’re very self aware of the scam they’re pulling. I know educated, professional women who pull the scam. They play at being an adult after college for a few years (and fuck bad… Read more »

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Bachlerocles The men become addicted. Males, especially beta males with few options, are easily manipulated in this state. And women are experts at manipulation. women don’t need to manipulate men into marriage that often… most guys can’t wait it seems, they put the noose around their neck themselves… because they don’t think that she will ever change at all… so perhaps that might be construed at some level as manipulation? But a stretch too far for me, because she doesn’t believe she will change either. The only truth to a woman is emotion… emotion is always in the moment after… Read more »

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>Stop buttering me up! I refuse to be pegged …

You’re soooooooooooo easy!

*giggles*

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/28/congress-moves-require-women-register-draft/

When the equalist narrative meets white knighting… confusion ensues…

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@Sentient

I respectfully disagree. Without sex and the concomitant love high, no man would every marry.

Unless you’re her fuck buddy, she begins her nesting enterprise from day one.

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@KFG, @Andy, @Bachelorcles — FWIW I’m a stay at home mom and it’s both really hard and really easy at the same time. Sometimes people say to me (usually men, married/fathers, with a patronizing smile) that it’s the hardest job there is. That’s INSANE. Insane. Every single actual job I’ve hard before this has been way harder, yes even emotionally. But on the other hand, what’s really hard at least at this point is the loneliness. Loneliness is really hard. And yeah, meaninglessness is really hard. Not that it actually is meaningless but it feels meaningless because you’re doing a… Read more »

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Clarifying, everything II said presumed sex before marriage…

Just think about it… by and large, the man is still the one who makes the ask.

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“Here is an Essential Truth I will dispense free of charge…
In a marital contract, the individual in the lesser financial position has everything to gain…while the well-to-do partner has everything to lose.”

“I think you have the facts reversed…”

“But pondering this dynamic further…I realize that a person will never see what they are not predisposed to see…and I derive sustenance from this bit of epiphany.”

Money isn’t everything. Above a certain point it’s almost nothing. Do your eyes hurt Karen?

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@LeeLee

Stop with the manipulation,

First, it’s not hard. It’s very easy and the deep secret is women love it. My mother cries when she sees pictures of her and I when I was a little boy. My father does not cry and get nostalgic when shown pictures of his old workplace.

Secondly, most ladies of leisure are not lonely. They receive tremendous support from friends, family, neighbors in person, on Facebook, via texting, and phone calls.

Finally, you’re molding a human being. Nothing could be more meaningful and rewarding.

So please top the fucking manipulation.

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It actually is hard not to think of it as him being “lucky” that he gets to leave and do meaningful work that is recognized and appreciated by other people

There you go… a Mother’s selflessness on display… Just in time for Mother’s Day.

Happy Solipsism Day Mom!

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Andy says:

>Money isn’t everything. Above a certain point it’s almost nothing. Do your eyes hurt Karen?
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I will not misrepresent…I have a great deal of sympathy for the writings of Judge Posner on the 7th Circuit…and his splendid defense and expansion in the theoretical realm of the economics of justice…with a specific emphasis on the concept of applying cost / benefit analysis to most activities in daily life.

Money cannot buy happiness; but poverty can buy even less.

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Hey Karen – it seems you have a way with cultural analysis -wouldn’t mind hearing your take on Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut. It was about Sex Magick – yes?

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Ahhh Mother’s Day – two quick ones…

First memory – brother and I were like 8, 10, forgot Mother’s Day. Mom went ballistic!

First Mother’s Day with wife, shortly after first one was born, a year in… She asks if I got her anything for Mother’s Day… Me:[puzzled look] You’re not my mom? Wife goes ballistic!

LOL

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@Sentient

“Just think about it… by and large, the man is still the one who makes the ask.”

I agree. But the question is why they ask.

“Happy Solipsism Day Mom!”

LOL!!!!

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Andy says:

>Training her you might say. Like a dog.

I gravely doubt you believe this on either the sub conscious or even the conscious level…it was likely a manifestation of masculine bravado for the benefit of your male friends here…and grounded in ether.

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“I agree. But the question is why they ask.” I think KFG is going to chime in on agency…

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>Hey Karen – it seems you have a way with cultural analysis -wouldn’t mind hearing your take on Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut. It was about Sex Magick – yes?
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Thank you.

I am well acquainted with Crowley, & Blavatsky, & Parsons…however, I have not seen the movie you mention.

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“sfer, anyone else, think twice about online pharmacies, especially from India. Something like 20% to 30% of the drugs sold in India are nothing, or even harmful (lead isn’t good to eat). Dosage can be wrong, different from what is specified. Quality control is not a strong point for a lot of Indian pharma.”

I never had a problem, but maybe don’t buy a drug you need to stay alive or something.

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I think I am going to have a light lunch.

Please excuse me.

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“Like all I’m doing is keeping people alive and fed and responding to their extremely mundane needs.”

Blow jobs are FAR from mundane Lee Lee!

On a serious note. It is not your husband’s job to make your life meaningful. If you need meaning beyond what you do now then you need to figure out what that is and how to do it on your own. I think you know that it surely isn’t a JOB… There. You’ve got a leg up on 99% of women.

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Fuck, Karen puts out so much bullshit. it would be a full time job correcting it.

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Wild Person, she’s not going to let you in her panties.

Just saying.

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Hey Karen – Eyes Wide Shut – that be one crazy movie. I guess it’s a masterpiece cause people will be still trying to figure that one out 100 years from now. That Kubrick – he was one deep fellow. Worth seeing the movie.

Maybe one can’t really understand what is going on here with this surreal human condition we all experience – without appeals to the topic of topics.

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Karen puts out so much bullshit. it would be a full time job correcting it.

What conclusion do you draw from that?

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sfer on Indian pharma

I never had a problem,

How do you know that? Between the placebo effect and the length of time it takes some bad stuff such as lead to affect a human, how do you know?

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@Bachelorcles I think your mom cries when she sees pictures of you are her together as a little boy because that’s nostalgia about a relationship that has deep roots and history. I can relate to why she would feel that way, but it doesn’t make the “sowing season” any less difficult. It’s definitely not easy to spend all day molding the wild material of a small child’s mind into something approximating emotional / intellectual soundness. Studies show Stay at Home moms have the highest rates of depression, much more than working women. If it’s all just the fixings for old… Read more »

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@Bachelorcles “I think they’re very self aware of the scam they’re pulling. I know educated, professional women who pull the scam. They play at being an adult after college for a few years (and fuck bad boys to boot), and then they snag their beta provider and make babies. Many abandon their professions altogether (what a waste of education and money). Others slink back into easy part-time, rewarding work.” You’re mention of “rewarding work” reminds me of a friend’s Iranian husband who is too spiritual to work. While it was unusual for a man to pull off this scam, I… Read more »

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@Andy, I completely agree with you. It’s not his job to give ME meaning. That’s something I have to figure out on my own, and I think it is the thing most stay at home moms are missing that makes them so depressed. Like, in a lot of ways modern life is too easy, but modern parenting is too hard. Moms invest in their children for their own personal meaning in a way that isn’t healthy, especially for the kids, and this leads to crazy helicopter parenting. This generation of parents is putting in more hours in hands-on childcare than… Read more »

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Hey LeeLee – your sentiment about being unfulfilled, in some abstract way, wrt to doing the stay at home Mom thing – I don’t think that is uncommon at all with alot of women. I got a great Mom, in her ’80’s now (she and our father raised 5 of us), but man – was she ever itching to get back to contributing to the family by way of building a career (even though my Dad was doing great career-wise), after my youngest sister was in kindergarten. Back at that time she was getting down right cranky and bitchy. Man… Read more »

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@LeeLee

“So it’s not like at the end of the day most women can look at something they physically made (beyond dinner) or like something they canned or a garden they planted, because everything is centered on the kids. And little kids bring a limited return of meaning.”

Creativity is important. Have you thought about what you can create while at home? Sewing, quilting, gardening, and the like were traditional ways in which women created while tending children. And these are also things that can be done with other women.

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“I think KFG is going to chime in on agency…” It has been asked, what would induce a man to give up half his resources. I ask, what would induce a man to give up nearly all of his agency, the most valuable thing a man possesses and with which he can always acquire more resources. And bearing in mind that the resources he needs to acquire as a single man are considerably less than that he needs to acquire as a married one. Well, I was young and stupid once, maybe even twice, and let her turn me into… Read more »

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@Lee Lee “. . . why would that be?”

Because they live in little boxes on the hillside
Little boxes made of ticky-tacky
Little boxes, little boxes, little boxes
All the same

Or, to put it a bit less obtusely, and surprisingly, what Wild Man said.
The modern stay at home mom, shut up in her little box, has been isolated from community, and women require community as men require agency.

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KFG

Re Eyes Wide Shut, concur…. Good red pill film and for those reasons.

As an aside, great example of a dramatized version of my hotel lounge game and super laser eye at the 9 minute mark. The dance scene.

Can’t find a good clip to post… But worth looking at for this alone.

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@Rollo I can relate to every feeling in that story

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@Rollo LOL!! And that grave does not show the millions of men who sustained permanent psychological and bodily damage resulting in diminished and shortened lives. I jsust saw a recently made WW-II documentary. One segment bemoaned the plight of poor, suffering, struggling American women who were “forced to endure factory work.” lol @LeeLee She cries because she loved her job, it was tremendously rewarding (unlike 99% of all jobs outside the home), and she’s sad it’s over. She’s pleased with the results, she leads a good life now, but she misses it deeply. As I said, the deep, dirty secret… Read more »

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Re EWS – here is a great clip from the Hypergamy Scene, which drives a lot of actions…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnboLhbWLdg

Could be called Beta Eyes Now Open

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“That’s something I have to figure out on my own, and I think it is the thing most stay at home moms are missing that makes them so depressed.”

My wife says the same stuff. I think it just boils down to getting validation from other people about doing things a bit more intellectually stimulating than laundry. Thing is, putting your kids second to get a job or something is only going to make you more anxious. In most cases… So, like what can you do to add value to people’s lives working around your responsibilities at home?

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Hey kfg – Sex Magick wasn’t the MacGuffin, it was the proposition of Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut, informing about Redpill, informing about “everything that Rollo writes about here”, informing about the manipulations of the elites as they too are so manipulated.

In other words the deep topic of Sex Magick is actually about how all of the human condition is about the operations of operant conditioning within appeals to personal agency.

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@ YaReally – ” My point is just that like, like some 45yo guy who’s been divorced raped and is working 2 jobs to pay alimony and venting about his frustrations tend to not be reading Shoe’s Twitter feed and understanding how Tinder has actually changed things in terms of the whole sexual “battlefield” or how webcam culture has grown or following reddit/GamerGate/etc Like ya you work in tech, but do you know the young kids’ culture around it? Do you know what GamerGate was about or who, say, Candace Owens is and what her relevance this week is, or… Read more »

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@Radium “ exploitation when choosing between two differently colored products in the same isle at the same store.” Lol “The whole feminist ideology is centered around the divine nature of the feminine and the toxic nature of the masculine.” Yes!! Female sexuality is wholesome while male sexuality is deviant and lowly. As I wrote in a recent post here: “Women present themselves as deities of a religion. The deities are pure and infallible. The religion has its dogma: thou shalt respect women, thou shalt believe women, thou shalt have the correct beliefs about women, thou shalt not question the dogma.… Read more »

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@ AR

I always have a finger on my scroll wheel.

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LeeLee This generation of parents is putting in more hours in hands-on childcare than ever before. Ok, why? Who orders you to do this? So it’s not like at the end of the day most women can look at something they physically made (beyond dinner) or like something they canned or a garden they planted, because everything is centered on the kids. And little kids bring a limited return of meaning. Little kids of 3 or older can meander around a back yard while an adult is working in the vegetable garden. At least, I am pretty sure, since I… Read more »

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@ AR ” They don’t take the cushions off of the couch and build a fort or a house? Or get a box of wooden blocks out and build a little down, then drive trucks or tanks through it? If I had care of anyone under 18 I’d take away electronics and put out a whole lot of objects that they couldn’t break and that wouldn’t hurt them too much. Then spark up some imagination. ” I lol’d. When I was very young, there was an area rug in the livingroom that had a grid pattern. I remember it even… Read more »

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God forbid he should see a wasp or some ants

He’s a little young, but one way boys of 8 or 10 like to look at ants is through a magnifying glass. Preferably on a sunny day. Or so I’ve been told…

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Lmao… I can recall that smell

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It’s not that little kids need attention. It’s that so much can go wrong while they imprint your mannerisms. People get annoyed when their kid needs, basically emotional feedback. Without that feedback you become an insecure shmuck that needs to learn game and can’t just coast through the regularly scheduled program…not that the program is GOOD, but there are those that just never get to feel shafted by it.

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Hey Blax – the pipe mask brings back memories – when we were teens, me and my buddies rigged a very similar device (an old military issue gas mask) and would use that the odd time, to smoke ganja, in an old cabin behind my buddy`s parents house, – the idea was to get as blitzed as humanly possible – usually after a blast like that – it would be fall down on the floor time for a few minutes. For some reason there was always some Boston tunes playing, cranked to brain-churn intensity (my buddy had a kick-ass sound… Read more »

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Dionysus says: >>>Women are masters in the black art of victimhood debt creation. I know spoiled, pampered, stay at home moms who claim victim status: they say they “sacrificed their careers,” or they’re “stuck at home.” Through this manipulate their husbands. If they get divorced, they will actually feel entitled to alimony as a reward for not working. I like to do bike rides in my neighborhood and surrounding suburbs in early afternoon. I observe hordes of these pampered princesses walking, jogging, lounging, doing yoga, having leisurely coffee at the coffee house, eating lunch with their fellow princesses, shopping, hanging… Read more »

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Kids learn how to deal with stress from their parents. So alcoholics will have kids that constantly attempt to escape reality and their own feelings through substance abuse or entertainment.

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@Karen

“But when an individual is consciously aware in both mind & spirit that they are embarking on a hazardous journey through troubled waters w/o any legitimate prospect of survival…and they *still* insist on taking it; how can such foolishness elicit sympathy?”

The marriage rates have gone DOWN, not up.

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@ Wild Man The Gas mask thing was around even when I was in college. Thing is, there’s no photographic proof anywhere, of what transpired. Not to out myself too much more, but I had a good friend that used to acquire recreational substances of all manner. For a while, we would go get a suite in a nice hotel, and obtain a couple of female cohorts of Chinese descent for 2 day ” parties “. But that got old eventually, and it hindered the ability to conduct necessary functions required to live ( like showing up to work on… Read more »

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The Tiger writes: Fuck, Karen puts out so much bullshit. it would be a full time job correcting it. >>>>> A group of males did come before me one day; and the leader amongst them exclaimed, “Good Mistress, would you please share with us the secret of acquiring great wealth and riches?” I looked upon them pensively…and then replied, “To anyone amongst you who gives me the sum of $100…I will divulge the secret.” Within moments, I was flooded with cash…tens…twenties…fifties…even C-Notes themselves. It was readily apparent that every male in the group was desperately anxious to discover the secret… Read more »

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@Rollo lol no, that doesn’t make me a feminist. Just because I can relate to the emotions described doesn’t mean I agree with Sanger’s solution. At all. The feelings are real, but I think the solution is what everyone here is suggesting. Take that emptiness and turn it back on itself in a burst of creativity, invest in relationships. Not like, Eat Pray Love. The feminist answer is that you can fill your own emptiness. I don’t know what the Red Pill answer is necessarily, but to me it’s something like: feeling the howling winds of emptiness screaming through me… Read more »

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@Karen Dionysus, sui generis [Bachelorocles rolls his eyes]. So you’ve taken philosophy 101. Impressive!! “OMG I get such amaaaaaaaaaazing tingles from reading this…The Birth of the Gynocracy!” Did I fail to please ma lady? [snark] Your tingles are the furthest things from my mind. There are billions of women in this world. Pussy is cheap and easy to get. “I never seek to ridicule or hold in contempt those who err because they were demonstrably unaware and an affirmative effort to research the potential consequences of their risk were undertaken beforehand; mistakes occur and they are part of the growing… Read more »

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He likes Me..I can *always* tell….

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Me, me me, I, I, I, mine, mine, mine.

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Dionysus says:

Me, me me, I, I, I, mine, mine, mine.
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Soprano or alto?

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Her Highness writes:

>Soprano or alto?

This gives me an idea. Perhaps I should dispense with the notion of referring to you with those allusions to Greek mythology…instead, I will refer to you by your Jersey name; Robert “Bobby Bacala” Baccalieri, Jr.

Totally luv it!

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There is a good deal more light there than you might think…

“Frame is everything!!!!!”
___Rollo T.

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I like Tony. I recall when my dad and I were watching the episode where Carmela wanted him to donate $50,000 for Meadow’s college…my dad was so indignant that he replied, “If I were Tony, I would have told her ‘Do you know how many people I have to kill to make $50,000?””

LOL

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Karen thinks she is the first woman to have men give her money… Shit every night of the week women are doing this… Mostly singles though.

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With every passing day I thank god that my father was a butcher and Manley as f&$k. I would watch as her playfully dominated my mother every day. There truly is no better substitute than a red pill dad. He was red pill,but also a very nice family man who put his wife and children’s needs first. He succeeded in his burden of performance while having his expectations met.

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To the insecure…..
To swept away club fan.
You can add this movie to your fav too.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/031cf1cfbd85d7059c2b2d6736c754d1/tumblr_o3fukbTiVX1v4a8wfo1_1280.png

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@Bachelorcles “Women present themselves as deities of a religion. The deities are pure and infallible. The religion has its dogma: thou shalt respect women, thou shalt believe women, thou shalt have the correct beliefs about women, thou shalt not question the dogma.” This is one of the most concise descriptions of the cult of woman that I’ve ever read. This applies to both women and the men who worship them. I’m old enough to have been taught by WWII veterans in school. Several described both the privileges and responsibly of women in society. They described women being placed on a… Read more »

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@Bachelorcles “Women present themselves as deities of a religion. The deities are pure and infallible. The religion has its dogma: thou shalt respect women, thou shalt believe women, thou shalt have the correct beliefs about women, thou shalt not question the dogma.” I had one additional thought. Your description of the cult of woman might be one of the reasons feminists are so at odds with traditional religion. Religious protests seem to be the main objectives of femen and their less radical sisters. Not only does religion attempt to restrict female sexuality, it also competes with the cult of woman… Read more »

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I can remember 1968-69 fairly clearly. I was a tike, but I remember. Lol, so women are still pulling off clothes to…what? Protests? Further feminism? Just for shitz-n-gigglez, I’d love to here them, in English that is, explain wtf they are protesting that requires them to be naked. They’re feminists. Isn’t that objectification? Lmfao… nah, it never was about any of that. These ” hardcore ” younger fems are full of elephant shit, just like the old, ugly fems of yesteryear. I remember the 60’s, women protesting whateverthefuck in NYC. Topless, hairy hippies with cardboard signs with big Peace symbols… Read more »

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Blaximus wrote: “See, I get that there is a new ” culture ” and all that, but it seems to only make young people stupid and narcissistic and trapped in a fake world with fake problems while retarding the fuck out of true mental, spiritual and physical advancement in life. All of the ” look at me, look at me!!!!” nonsense is a bit much. Why in the world would anyone take vid/pics of themselves engaging in illegal activity? What is wrong with people? Everyone is trying to be a star, feel ” special ” and up their relevancy. Lol,… Read more »

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Say what you may of him; he *did* achieve his dream…though a non violent kidnapping of the telethon guy and a short stay as a guest of the state were the costs.

“Better king for a night than schmuck for a lifetime.”
____Rupert Pupkin

Words to live by…

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“Better king for a night than schmuck for a lifetime.” ____Rupert Pupkin Words to live by… If one thinks about it for a moment; the profundity begins to sink in…it ranks up there with “Better to reign in Hell; than serve in Heaven” when it comes to a ranking of one’s own being as the focus of existence…rather than some self centered God who has the amazing temerity to demand that the 14 billion souls or so that have existed sublimate their individuality; their very being…to obey His Impossible Code…lest they Burn in Hell in perpetuity….if Luke is to be… Read more »

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“Never memorize something that you can look up.” -Albert Einstein

So, Karen , save your bullshits. All your adolescent thoughts are in Google search.

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