Fempowerment

fempowerment

I’m often asked by ‘fempowered’ women critics whether I ‘believe‘ in some of the more socially acceptable tenets of feminism in some sort defense to the affront of my Red Pill lens being cast their way. It’s usually something to do with, “Do you or do you not think women ought to have the right to vote?” or the ever-reliable “Shouldn’t women have the right to do with their bodies what they choose?” These questions are always binary (“yes or no will do”) and usually couched in a context that implies that if you even slightly disagree or have a marginal caveat to answering ‘appropriately’ you’ll be dismissed with a name tag that has “misogynist” printed on it. Say no and you’re a despicable misogynist. Say yes and you’re tar-pitted in “yes, but” caveats – mansplaining – that are disqualified because you’re a man.

Say no and you’re a despicable misogynist. Say yes and you’re tar-pitted in “yes, but” caveats – mansplaining – that are disqualified because you’re a man. Up until recently, it’s been a very effective means of silencing uncomfortable truths about the Feminine Imperative.

I’ve always found it ironic that a movement (feminism) that predicates itself on the ostensibly egalitarian notion that rational, reasonable considerations of issues should lead us to ideals of equality is the first to reduce itself to unquestioned, blind faith binaries at the first sign of rational reasonable truth being unflattering to women. If you want to know who holds power over you, look at whom you aren’t allowed to criticise – or even hint at criticism.

My position on these and many other questions of the sort is usually met with simple observational analysis (as you’d probably expect). I don’t necessarily have a problem with women voting or even having access to legal (relatively safe) abortions. What I have a problem with is the latent purpose behind the reasons that led to women’s decisions to vote a particular way or the latent purposes that brought them to having that abortion. For the greater part, any dubious ‘right’ women feel they were somehow denied in the past usually comes at the expense of men being liable for decisions they had nothing to do with.

What I have a problem with is an expectation of lowering the standards of the game, thus fundamentally altering the game, to better accommodate the variable strengths and weaknesses of women – up to, and including, changing the very nature of women’s environmental realities that would endanger the wellbeing of both sexes. What I take issue with is the expectation of making men liable for the decisions and consequences of the rights and freedom of choices we’ve reserved for only women to make (almost unilaterally Hypergamic choices) that are not in men’s best interests.

I mentioned in Our Sister’s Keeper that men today find themselves in a very precarious position with regard to entertaining women’s perceived wrongs of the past. Men are expected,by default, to be held accountable, for no other reason than they were born men, for past injuries to the ever-changing Feminine Imperative. Your existence as a man today, your failed understanding to accommodate women’s social primacy, your lack of catering to the ambiguous nature of what conveniently passes for masculinity, is a constant stinking affront and obstacle to the “advancement” of women. The Feminine Imperative has known how to manipulate men’s Burden of Performance for millennia, and at not other time in history has it had the unfettered leisure to do so than now.

So, we get socially acceptable default presumptions of ‘male privilege’ without qualifying what it even means, or we get catchy jingoisms like ‘mansplaining’ to give a name to women’s need for silencing men’s inconvenient observations of women’s ‘correct’ perceptions, decisions and the reasons they came to them. We get default presumptions of male guilt for sexual assault and sexual consent as fluidly defined in as convenient a way that serves women’s imperatives. As I’ve mentioned before, the true intent of feminism has never been about establishing a mutually agreed ‘equality’, rather it’s always been about retribution and restitution for perceived past wrongs to the sisterhood.

There has always been a subtext, a cover story, of equality mentioned in the same breath as feminism. Only the most antagonistic asshole, only the most anti-social prick, would be against “equality between the sexes”. Thus, to be against feminism is to be against a simplistic concept of baseline equality. However, taken out of the propagandizing efforts to shame and ‘correct’ men’s imperatives, it’s easy to demonstrate that the true intent of feminism is female ‘fempowerment’ in the dressing of an equality that no man (or woman) wants to appear to be against.

Yellowed Pearls

I found an interesting example of this  Catch 22 in the Economist recently. Pick and choose: Why women’s rights in China are regressing.

In 2007 China’s official Xinhua news agency published a commentary about women who were still unmarried at the age of 27 under the title, “Eight Simple Moves to Escape the Leftover Woman Trap”. The Communist Party had concluded that young Chinese women were becoming too picky and were over-focused on attaining the “three highs”: high education, professional status and income. Newspapers have since reprinted similar editorials. In 2011 one said: “The tragedy is they don’t realise that as women age they are worth less and less, so by the time they get their MA or PhD, they are already old, like yellowed pearls.”

In the last Red Pill Monthly discussion, I mentioned the expansion that the Feminine Imperative has taken on a global scale. One of the old missives of the manosphere has always been about how American women are too far gone to be worth ever entertaining beyond a pump-and-dump consideration. They are too damaged and self-absorbed beyond all redemption, and men ought to expatriate to another country where women are more feminine or at least necessitous enough to appreciate a conventionally masculine man.

I get that. I understand the want for a Poosy Paradise or some promised land where women are still raised to respect and love men by being conventionally feminine. I also get that there exist certain cultures where this is still true, but for all of that, I think it’s important to recognize the social undercurrent that the Feminine Imperative exercises in these cultures. A popular meme on Twitter is ‘Feminism is Cancer’, but there’s a kernel of truth to the humor of this. The spread of the westernizing social primacy of the Feminine Imperative is spreading, not unlike cancer, into what we would otherwise believe were societies and cultures still oppressed by the mythical Patriarchy – a belief necessary to perpetuate the narrative of default female victimhood.

It may not be now, but at some stage, the Feminine Imperative will exercise its presumptive control over even the societies we think ought to be immune from that cancer. As I mention on The Red Pill Monthly, even in underdeveloped countries where we would expect to find the horrible oppression of girls and women, we make a triumphant example of the incidents of where girls (not boys) are taught to read and “think for themselves”. Westernized culture, founded on the Feminine Imperative, celebrates every time a woman in Saudi Arabia is allowed to drive a car, much less run a business on her own as if it were some blow against the tyranny of men.

Little by little, or in leaps and bounds, your second or third world Poosy Paradise will eventually be assimilated by the Feminine Imperative.

I bring this up because, as you’ll read in the linked article, China is also experiencing the long-term results of having adopted feminine social primacy in its own culture. From women’s popular consciousness, we’re still, to this day, told of how horrible “communist” China has been in mandating its one-child policy and how its draconian ‘sons live, daughters die’ social structure has been the result. However, once we reasonably investigate it, we find that China now has a problem with “Yellowed Pearls” as a result of a cultural shift that placed women’s interests as preeminent in that culture. And it should be noted that this shift came about as the direct result of the men who adopted and accommodated the Feminine Imperative as their own.

Now the problem for women in China is not unlike the plight of American women bemoaning the lack of men with “equal” marriageability as themselves. And likewise, the self-same social authorities responsible for institutionalizing the fempowerment of women are now the horrible misogynist villains for suggesting that women ought to lower their unrealistic standards.

The tone of these articles is surprising, given the Communist Party’s past support for women’s advancement. Mao Zedong destroyed China, but he succeeded in raising the status of women. Almost the first legislation enacted by the Communist Party in 1950 was the Marriage Law under which women were given many new rights, including the right to divorce and the right to own property.

Sounds a far cry different from the pictures women, even women in this century, have painted of China’s institutionalized, one-child sexism doesn’t it? Remember, this advancement in women’s rights took place before the Cultural Revolution in China.

Though collectivisation made the latter largely irrelevant, women played an active role in Mao’s China, and still do today. By 2010 26% of urban women had university degrees, double the proportion ten years earlier. Women now regularly outperform men at Chinese universities, which has led to gender-based quotas favouring men in some entrance exams. However, many of the earlier advances have been eroded in recent years by the gradual re-emergence of traditional patriarchal attitudes.

Consider this part in contrast to other industrialized nations and how women have increased their socio-political standing as the result of having the Feminine Imperative adopted as the primary social order of those cultures. Even in cultures that are still popularly deemed “repressive” to women we see educational and socioeconomic parallels to western(ized) cultures. We also see the same resulting consequences and the shifting of blame for them to men. The downside of Yellowed Pearls is placed at the feet of men for not living up to the convenient, feminine-primary definition of what their Burden of Performance ought to mean in promoting and forgiving women’s decisions.

The party has joined an alliance of property companies and dating websites to confront the issue. Government surveys on marriage and property are often sponsored by matchmaking agencies, and perpetuate the perception that being “leftover” is the worst thing that can happen to a woman. They also promote other myths, such as the idea that a man must have a house before he can marry.

As you may expect, the tone of the article is written to emphasize an egalitarian perspective that conflicts with a reality that the Feminine Imperative would have men change or be responsible for not having changed. It’s men’s fault that women might feel bad for not having married by a post-wall age. It’s men’s fault for promoting myths that women would expect that a man must be successfully established in his life and career before any considerations of marriage occur to him. It’s also a man’s fault for clinging to the “myth” that women don’t want him to be established.

The law is reflecting the shift away from women’s empowerment too. An interpretation by the Supreme Court in 2011 of the 1950 Marriage Law stated that, when a couple divorces, property should not be shared equally, but each side should keep what is in his or her own name. This ruling, says Ms Fincher, has serious implications. In the big cities a third of marriages now end in divorce but, based on hundreds of interviews, she finds that only about 30% of married women have their name on the deeds of the marital flat. Women believe the party hype about becoming a “leftover” woman so strongly, she says, that many rush into unhappy marriages with unsuitable men, made on condition that the brides agree not to put their name on the property deeds.

Feminism Would be a Success if Men Would Only Cooperate More

Several years ago Dalrock had a post detailing the sentiment of feminists that feminism would be a success if only men would cooperate with the ideology by abandoning their own interests and sublimating their own biological impulses. The fact remains that feminism and egalitarianism are failed ideologies because at the root level those ideologies ask men to participate in their own extinction. Not only this, but they ask men to raise successive generations to accommodate and participate in their own degradation.

The narrative expects Yellowed Pearls to be prized by men, or respected as Spinsters, or pandered to as ‘Cougars’ while still maintaining men sublimate their own imperatives by willfully ignoring the fact that their own sexual strategy is what is being asked of them to abandon. As I stated in the Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies, for one sex’s strategy to succeed the other must either be compromised or abandoned – what better way is there to assure this for women than to socially mandate through shame, persecution or financial liabilities that men abandon their own strategy in favor of women?

For some time now, I’ve detailed how for the past 4 or 5 generations, there has been a popular social re-engineering effort to raise and condition boys to become the ‘better betas‘ – boys designed to become the supportive male-reinforcers of empowering women’s interests and imperatives.

For a greater part this effort has been primarily focused on boys and men in western society, and while it’s still open for debate, I’d say that westernizing cultures are really the only cultural environments that can afford to entertain this ‘fempowerment’. This is changing radically now if it was ever really the case to begin with.

In the manosphere we like to highlight the ‘pussification’ of modern men through various efforts on the part of a nebulous ‘socitey’ aligned against masculinity. However, the flip side to this is the fempowerment agenda; an feminine-primary social structure that disallows any criticism of inherently female nature while promoting the empowerment of women on every level of social strata.

We coddle and cater to the feminine in every aspect of social interaction, every aspect of academic achievement, every socioeconomic advantage inventable, every story we tell in every form of media and we do so under the threat of not being supportive or misogynistic for suggesting anything marginally pro-masculine. This is the other side of the demasculinization imperative of boys & men – the total consolidation of handicaping men and empowering women into unrealistic effigies of feminine triumphalism.

How do you counter this?

I’m always lauded for describing these social dynamics, but I’m run up the flagpole for not offering concrete ways of dealing with and pushing back on these imperatives. Many a MGTOW will simply suggest men no longer play the Game, that isolationism is the way to go, but this only serves to eventually concede power to the Feminine Imperative. You don’t get to check out of the Game even if you refuse to play it. For all the guys who left for parts unknown to find their demi-utopia of feminine women in a foreign country, even they will explain that the tide of feminism is changing those seemingly idlyic places. And for every guy to voluntarilly go celebate and “refuse to deal with women” I’ll show you a man whose tax dollars go to fund the consequences of women’s legislated rights to Hypergamous choice.

Sooner or later Men will have to confront and push back against both men and women who are convinced of their purpose in idealizing the dictates of the Feminine Imperative. A lot of men in the ‘sphere believe their being clever when they refer to people with this worldview as ‘SJWs’, but for every hair dyed, gender-confused man-woman you see on Twitter there are hundreds of ‘normal’ people who all share similar perspectives – some simply subconscious generalization they’re oblivious to – sitting next to you at church, or working in the cubicle next to you.

As I’ve mentioned countless times, the change needs to take place by appealing to the hearts and minds of Men by making them Red Pill aware from the bottom up, but moreover, we need to live out that awareness in our own lives and lead by Red Pill example. Our decisions in life, our aspiration in parenting, family and career, in our business dealings, in the women we Game and the people we hire, all of these aspects need to take on the perspective of how they fit into pushing back against a feminine-primary world that demands we surrender any thought of individuated male power.

As Men, we need to unapologetically exercise what little power we’re left with to inform this and successive generation of Red Pill truths tactfully, but with strength of conviction in the face of a feminine-primary society bent on our surrender. Life finds a way. Feminism and the consolidation of the Feminine Imperative have failed because Men were not evolved to acquiesce their dominant spirit. On the same evolutionary level women also evolved into requiring that convnetionally masculine dominance. This is why feminism and egalitarianism will ultimately fail – nature simply will not cooperate with it’s own stagnation. As men, we can use this truth to our Red Pill aware advantage.

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Bachelorcles
Bachelorcles
5 years ago

@kfg “I identify exactly one, true natural right. A right that is so profoundly rooted in natural law that even plants assert it:” There is no such thing as natural rights. It is a noble lie that derives from a hope or prayer. Natural law is the laws of physics. All other laws are artificial. @Radium “The rise of equalitarianism is an interesting topic. I’ve been wondering if it has something to do with our expanding in-group size.” I look at it historically. It was a working class, middle class, and mercantile movement of families who wanted to be equal… Read more »

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

“Natural law is the laws of physics.”

Try generating life without following the laws of physics. Try maintaining life without defending it. Try defending life without following the laws of physics.

Biological law is an expression of the laws of physics.

The lie is that it is not, told by those who wish you to abrogate your own defense.

Footnote: There is no right to succeed in your defense.

Disclaimer of Bias: My academic background is in physics.

Bachelorcles
Bachelorcles
5 years ago

I accept your correction. Biology is natural. But all legislation is artificial. There is no such thing as natural rights. The term “natural rights” is simply a rhetorical device designed convince others to respect claims.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

“But all legislation is artificial.” But not all rights have their genesis in legislation. The Federalists argued against the adoption of the Bill of Rights, because it implied that the genesis of any rights so enumerated was legislative and would thus be interpreted and modified as if they were the product of legislation. Which is not to say that everything they held to be a natural right actually was, but that they understood the principles. And so in my youth I set about the investigating what things that were held as natural rights were not, in fact, the product of… Read more »

Bachelorcles
Bachelorcles
5 years ago

The federalist argument was a BOR was not necessary because there was no need to tell the government not to do what it lacks the power to do. That doesn’t imply rights are natural. A right is simply a claim one makes against another, against a group, or against the government. There is no need to mystify it into a religon.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Culum

Play back how the date with the actually crazy girl would have gone if you bounced her 30 minutes in instead of 2 HOURS in… Even if she was crazy…

Two words for the latina… AFTER PARTY. Thats it just say that and move her… More tomorrow.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

“And I noted that the oak did not produce tannins to keep the birches and pines out of its claimed territory by act of any legislative body.” I find the maples are the real bitches on my farm. And the bigtooth aspens are very feminine. And the cottonwoods are real AMOGs. Conifers have dignity when the are not dying from disease, esp. the spruces. Red pines are lazy and fade early ~15 to 20 years. White pine are elegant. And I find myself gaming the system by planting hybrid willows, speckled alder, warm season grasses including Miscanthus Giganteus and switchgrass.… Read more »

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

“The federalist argument was a BOR was not necessary because there was no need to tell the government not to do what it lacks the power to do.” That was the other prong of the fork. Something unnecessary may be neutral in effect, so they also argued that it was inherently undesirable. “That doesn’t imply rights are natural.” And they didn’t infer it from that. They inferred the limitations of governmental power from an acceptance of natural rights, which had already been argued. And prosecuted from the barrel of a gun. ” A right is simply a claim one makes… Read more »

Bachelorcles
Bachelorcles
5 years ago

Is there a natural right to a trial by jury? A natural right to counsel? A natural right against unreasonable searches and seizures? There is nothing natural about them.

“They inferred the limitations of governmental power from an acceptance of natural rights, which had already been argued.”

That’s very mystic. Almost religious. Some powers were granted to the federal government via the constitution. Nothing was inferred. It was the product of human artifice.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

:

The last time I visited my old home in Vermont the maples had breeched the perimeter of the white pines and it was no longer possible to stroll through the grove.

I wonder if the small herd of children, of which I was a member, now entirely absent from the environment, had not constituted an essential part of the pine’s defense system.

stuffinbox
5 years ago

@ Culum Crazies,Nutjobs,Kookoos I have this friend,forty five years now,just like me raised by single mom and man of the house since seven years old.His mom remarried first when he was about twelve,he rebelled,rich stepdad sent him to shrink,they put him on meds and started his cycle of in and out patient therapy.Jump forward to seventeen yearolds out chasing shakypuddin,I had a car and sam had this list of names and numbers of chicks he met in the looney bin.I got to hand it to sam he had good taste,all HB7+.He would set up these dates,always doubles,then we were of… Read more »

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

“That’s very mystic. Almost religious.”

I have already argued that the source was religion, and as I recall you took exception to that. Now you assert it.

“Some powers were granted to the federal government via the constitution.”

Some powers were not granted to the federal government expressly because of the mysticism. The powers denied being inferred from the mystical tenets. Some of your argument seems to be attempting to reverse engineer things we know the forward history of.

And at this point I’m wondering if you remember my premise.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

@ Kfg

The white pines need to lead and shade the canopy to eliminate the maple competion. Maples are shade tolerant, but not to a fault.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/Derm95/DSC_2019.jpg

They respond well to a chainsaw to destroy their claustrophobic canopy.

These are bigtooth aspen in my east, but they emulate the maples in the west.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/Derm95/DSC_2092.jpg

SJF
SJF
5 years ago
SJF
SJF
5 years ago

But sometimes hickories that germinate when Andrew Jackson was president need to go. Because they hog the sunlight.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/Derm95/IMG_20140517_120251_982.jpg

YaReally
YaReally
5 years ago

@Softek “Like there are people doing this, having sex right now, lol.” That’s why I sent you specifically to that site. I’m not trying to help you jack off lol, it’s about opening your eyes to what’s going on around you 24/7 and understanding how normal a lot of your urges and desires that you’re ashamed of are. “Also how a few guys on there have some threesomes going and there isn’t all this tension and drama and stress. And some dude just talking about the show or answering questions and shit while getting blown by one of the chicks… Read more »

stuffinbox
5 years ago

@ SJF
Can you get that hickory to the mill?
I be needin some new tool handles.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago
SJF
SJF
5 years ago

“Can you get that hickory to the mill?” No. It was an adventure on my red pill buddies farm. No facilities to get it to the mill. Hard to haul it out from the 300 acre farm, logistically. It was the only picture from his property. The others were from mine. Natural fertilizer. Adding potassium to the ground while destroying shade. Ir may take a while to rot, but it will decay. See these things are abundant–trees– and whitetail deer habitat management revolves around cover from a man’s shoulder height down, with a lot of canopies needing destroying. I believe/recall… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
5 years ago

Worth a View

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Culum A little more for you to consider… On the crazy girl… Nice work on the extraction… but why why why wait so long? You felt the attraction waning… pull when the attraction is high. This is the right moment to lead. Overall the first half hour to an hour..till I got the kiss (peck on lips) I think sexual tension was decent Recall Kant’s first meetup date routine… one drink and up to room… he had like 100 lays online with this. He is still active on Sedfast btw. But it is the same thing cold approach. Extract when… Read more »

stuffinbox
5 years ago

@ KFG Great scene although miss named,should be pick handle scene. @SJF Out west here,we can’t leave slash and trees lay,the fire hazard is to great. Seeing that on the ground reminds me of the Peshtigo fire of 1871,back when your country was full of white pine.It doesn’t appear to be a hazard from the pics. Those white pine appear to be planted in a row maybe 20 to 30 yrs ago. I have seen ponderosa like this,these seedlings were purchased from the forest service 60 yrs ago and were all clones and all sterile.No seed trees in the bunch.… Read more »

walawala
walawala
5 years ago

@Culum…great Field Reports…the most important is you’re going out. But from what you’ve reported…I detect a hesitancy. You’re still very much in your own head over-thinking this. My suggestion: get a few simple routines as a kind of baseline. When you feel like the situation is waning simply say: “You seem interesting, if you promise to behave, let’s go for drinks, what’s your number?” Girls will get it if you’ve sparked attraction. From there you have to just keep it simple by text for the meet up. What worked for me was getting a simple structure together. There are some… Read more »

stuffinbox
5 years ago

@Blaximus In the information age,old guys like me are known as Neandertals.Like you I really don’t care.At a 911 incident cell phones and picture taking are discouraged.I have literally spent hours holding up a blanket at traffic accidents to keep these pictures off of social media.Most fire departments now have to employ a PR person to start tweeting and face-booking positive news about the departments handling of the incident even while still in progress just to get ahead of the negative influence of some inconvenience to an entitled idiot on their tweets. Engaging in arguments by the pr man on… Read more »

stuffinbox
5 years ago

Shit test pass…

xsplat
5 years ago

Yes, Blackdragon is a master of MLTRs. He’s got a great blog – highly recommended.

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xsplat
5 years ago

EC – As a woman, what do you hope to gain by posting against non-monogamy and against big age differences here?

That’s a bit of a rhetorical question. Women hate competition from younger, more attractive girls, and hate the idea that an owned man isn’t owned after all.

Strangely enough, a lot of men actually give a shit what women like EC think.

Cowed and trapped, and ignorant of their own personal potential and the working of women, most men assume that MLTRs are not an option for them.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

“Cowed and trapped, and ignorant of their own personal potential and the working of women, most men assume that MLTRs are not an option for them.”

Lol. Last time I effected game, I was not ignorant of my own personal potential and the working of women. And I assumed the the option, which was personal, for monogamous LTR. It may end tomorrow, but it works for me. Living on my edge for the last 27 years.

MLTR’s are not my preference. Your projection of this premise is not a working one. MLTR is a non pref.

xsplat
5 years ago

. I might be incorrect to assume that MLTRs would be every man’s preference, if he had that as a real viable option.

But as for what you quoted:

“Cowed and trapped, and ignorant of their own personal potential and the working of women, most men assume that MLTRs are not an option for them.”

I don’t see anything contentious.

xsplat
5 years ago

@EC, a blanket statement against all PUAs was facile and overly harsh. I have seen that some PUAs are schizoid; they are not mentally able to enjoy pair bonding. Some in the mental health profession see that as being rooted in poor parenting, and of having the effect of decreased life satisfaction. I was defining PUAs as all guys who only go after pump and dump. If there are PUAs who also enjoy pair bonding, kudos and credit, and job well done. As for why I look down on guys in monogamous marriages. I get a huge thrill out of… Read more »

xsplat
5 years ago

Oh, SJF, I see it now. My assumption is that most men are not only ignorant of their potential for MLTRs, but they are cowed and trapped. Well, yes, that is contentious. It is the job of women to cow and trap their man. And men mate guard also. Women work very hard to make sure “their” man does not “cheat”. And yes, I’m sure most men internalize this. I do believe most men are cowed and trapped, and either realize and accept that as a good enough bargain for what they are getting, or simply deny that their cage… Read more »

xsplat
5 years ago

I mean, just listen to some of the dissimulations and rationalizations of some of the commentors on this very blog. Some married men have so internalized their own cage, that even imagining being in a non-fenced relationship conjures up all sorts of crazy fantasies about how fucked up and horrible that would be. We’ve heard so far that in order to remain interested in dating several young women, and older man would need to be: 1) hormonally imbalanced 2) experiencing an identity crisis 3) have fucked up life priorities 4) have impractical hopes and expectations 5) be into that for… Read more »

xsplat
5 years ago

Yes, EC, it’s far easier to date younger women in Eastern and South American countries. You are right that a man’s value is a weighted average, and in there was a large scientific study done in China that showed that women orgasm more for wealthy men. Apparently in China, at least, overall value is weighted by wealth. Rollo discounts that study, as he has consciously and publicly chosen confirmation bias towards his rigid black and white pet personal theory that “alpha fucks and beta bucks”. He’s taken a truth and turned up the contrast to twenty, and is defending it… Read more »

Andy
Andy
5 years ago

“As an aside re: libido. Speaking for myself, my sex drive has consistently been an issue in life. It is ridiculous ulouly high and always has been. Even now.” @blax I have a feeling this is probably a common affliction around here. lol. Loved that Pakistani girl FR. You just come up with that shit off the top of your head? That’s awesome. @xsplat “I get a huge thrill out of being in love, and that only lasts a few years. It’s the highlight of a lifetime. Nothing can ever feel better sustainably; no drug or other experience can compare.… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
5 years ago

@Softek – I’m still catching up on comments in this thread and I saw your mega-post on porn addiction and your experience. Thanks for that dude – that had some fantastic insights and I absolutely agree with you. Porn CAN be addictive (but it depends hugely on the individual and their life circumstances) and at the same time the FI can shame men for porn use for all the reasons in Rollo’s new post – the two things are different. It reflects my experience too – fairly frequent user (several times a week, but for relatively brief periods and I… Read more »

Culum Struan
Culum Struan
5 years ago

YaReally Sentient Wala Stuffinbox et al – thanks for the FR thoughts. Think you’re all spot on: 1. Very interesting point about speeding up the pull – I have this “image” in my head that the pull happens after two hours, but I guess if the vibe is there, I can move a lot sooner. Worst comes to worst, we can actually GO for ice cream if nothing happens at my place and I can try again on the way back from ice cream to her car (and once she’s “escaped” (lol) successfully from my place once she should be… Read more »

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

EC

And unless you make seven figures, or are famous then I can pretty much guarantee it’s gonna be hard. And imo, it’s not good to be obsessed with something that just keeps getting out of your reach.

What the fuck is this bs? It is no harder than for the many millions of 20 year old guys who aren’t getting laid… guys who aren’t getting laid aren’t getting laid. The problem is how they are going about things, not their age.

How are you so sure it is harder? What is the basis for your comment?

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

@xsplat: “You don’t hear most men say . . . ”

. . . the items on your list. You have mostly heard them from our current born again virgin poster child for shaming men.

having a bad day
having a bad day
5 years ago

@Culum Outside another bar..didn’t get in as nearly closing time..2 girls mid-20s (HB7/7.5 Latina/brunette respectively or flip the rating round for guys who like Latinas – basically two really cute girls) Within about one minute of chatting (as a four-some), the Latina had already told us that the white girl was married… [= sexual intent] the Latina immediately grabbed my arm and held on to it, like we were on a date walking somewhere… I just have this impression of her deep brown eyes and our eyes just locked on to each other and talking utter nonsense… it’s like the… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
5 years ago

@Culum I agree with you on your read of her LMR. There’s a difference between not interested or turned on and turned on but putting up token resistance because she’s trying to be good or whatever. Freezing out a girl who’s not actually interested in fucking you isn’t generally going to trigger anything…what she needs is for you to have more value to her in her personal view of what high-value is (ie – a girl who doesn’t care about poetry isn’t going to view you as high-value for reading her some, but there’s a better chance that a girl… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
5 years ago

@Culum @having a bad day “good news/bad news – good news = your subcomms are now ‘naturally’ alpha stud… bad news = you are getting in your own way… bc when you were ‘tired’ you just ‘naturally’ pinged as alpha stud… that’s why that hot hb7 was all over you…lol… bc you are not getting those results when you are not ‘tired’, you have something else in play (likely subconsciously…) that is misdirecting that ‘natural’ result…” Generally this is the stage where your subcomms are coming off proper to the girls (in Culum’s specific case when he was sick it… Read more »

KP
KP
5 years ago

Milo Fan, “1) She starts talking about marriage, then tells me she doesn’t want to change her last name – we’re both doctors and her rationale is that she does not want to go through the process of changing all the professional/legal documents” Huge warning sign. I know this great gal MD, when she got married she took her husband’s last name, but kept her maiden name as her professional nom de plume. (At least in my state it was completely OK to do it that way.) Mind you, after giving birth to her 2nd she put her practice on… Read more »

KP
KP
5 years ago

Radium,

People who live in cities have [false] security and [fragile] resources.

FIFY.

See: https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2016/04/28/the-death-of-a-nation/?singlepage=true

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

EC “Either way you sound delusional.”

You sound like the typical guy who no matter what experiences people are telling him about, refuses to believe them.

Enjoy your cloistered fantasy world. I will enjoy my reality….

Well I am that age, so I know what girls my age think and want.

This says so much.. reminds me of the story of the kid who goes away to college for four years and when he comes back is amazed at how much smarter his dad has gotten in the meantime… LOL…

Father
http://www.dispatch.com/content/graphics/2016/04/25/1005568484-oh-col-sp-bosa4.jpg

Son
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Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ Andy ” I have a feeling this is probably a common affliction around here. lol. Loved that Pakistani girl FR. You just come up with that shit off the top of your head? That’s awesome.” Hey man, I walk out of my house every day determined to have a great day. The birds and squirrels, the breeze and sunshine or even clouds, get things started for me. I watch everything. Watching how people conduct themselves, what they are doing, how they are doing it, all that’s fascinating to me. I have amusing ( to me ) thoughts about some… Read more »

Jimmy B
Jimmy B
5 years ago

Another article from histrionic Australian feminist Clementine Ford confirming how feminists try to stifle all debate about the lies they propogate… dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/why-i-didnt-take-part-in-weekend-sunrises-feminist-debate-20160502-gokchq.html

Dylan
Dylan
5 years ago

Fantastic article Rollo.

I wonder if, one day, the Feminine Imperative will try to scientifically alter men’s nature, through genetic engineering or some such device, to make them more compatible with the Feminine Imperative.

It’s a scary thought.

Apriori
Apriori
5 years ago

I was unable to post a comment so I am just double checking if I can.

N1
N1
5 years ago

@Yareally, Scray, Sentient, PUAs I’m interested to know what my next move should be – for learning purposes ofc. Saturday night: At a university party, with a friend, start talking to HB7.5. Start flirting and things are going well, she’s proactive, mentions she’s had three ex-boyfriends, happily single for a year and “sometimes gets angry and treats men bady”, in a sweet way (lol). Tease her a lot on this. Conversation continues is mostly non-sexual (about fakeness of people and hopes, dreams et.c). She’s inquisitive, doesn’t flinch to touch although not reciprocating (much if at all), occaisional extended eye-contact but… Read more »

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Dr. No
Dr. No
1 year ago

Hire a woman
https://amp.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article235675347.html
and nuke your pesky office of the medical examiner

redlight
redlight
1 year ago

@chelsea

Read the top comment on this page

A convention to promote conventional masculinity

this is why they call it con masculinity, not toxic

female-supremacism that is so bad Katie Hill
had to resign from the Hill today

redlight
redlight
1 year ago

@chelsea

When women are freed from oppressive men, they can and will do anything. Chaos theory teaches that some of that will be good. You have to take the good with the bad. Thus women are victims of freedom, and will look for men to solve that. However men will
be preoccupied with oppressing video games and dolls, and so the inevitable catabolic collapse will leave women with only sailboats that function.

Erik
Erik
1 year ago

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