Fempowerment

fempowerment

I’m often asked by ‘fempowered’ women critics whether I ‘believe‘ in some of the more socially acceptable tenets of feminism in some sort defense to the affront of my Red Pill lens being cast their way. It’s usually something to do with, “Do you or do you not think women ought to have the right to vote?” or the ever-reliable “Shouldn’t women have the right to do with their bodies what they choose?” These questions are always binary (“yes or no will do”) and usually couched in a context that implies that if you even slightly disagree or have a marginal caveat to answering ‘appropriately’ you’ll be dismissed with a name tag that has “misogynist” printed on it. Say no and you’re a despicable misogynist. Say yes and you’re tar-pitted in “yes, but” caveats – mansplaining – that are disqualified because you’re a man.

Say no and you’re a despicable misogynist. Say yes and you’re tar-pitted in “yes, but” caveats – mansplaining – that are disqualified because you’re a man. Up until recently, it’s been a very effective means of silencing uncomfortable truths about the Feminine Imperative.

I’ve always found it ironic that a movement (feminism) that predicates itself on the ostensibly egalitarian notion that rational, reasonable considerations of issues should lead us to ideals of equality is the first to reduce itself to unquestioned, blind faith binaries at the first sign of rational reasonable truth being unflattering to women. If you want to know who holds power over you, look at whom you aren’t allowed to criticise – or even hint at criticism.

My position on these and many other questions of the sort is usually met with simple observational analysis (as you’d probably expect). I don’t necessarily have a problem with women voting or even having access to legal (relatively safe) abortions. What I have a problem with is the latent purpose behind the reasons that led to women’s decisions to vote a particular way or the latent purposes that brought them to having that abortion. For the greater part, any dubious ‘right’ women feel they were somehow denied in the past usually comes at the expense of men being liable for decisions they had nothing to do with.

What I have a problem with is an expectation of lowering the standards of the game, thus fundamentally altering the game, to better accommodate the variable strengths and weaknesses of women – up to, and including, changing the very nature of women’s environmental realities that would endanger the wellbeing of both sexes. What I take issue with is the expectation of making men liable for the decisions and consequences of the rights and freedom of choices we’ve reserved for only women to make (almost unilaterally Hypergamic choices) that are not in men’s best interests.

I mentioned in Our Sister’s Keeper that men today find themselves in a very precarious position with regard to entertaining women’s perceived wrongs of the past. Men are expected,by default, to be held accountable, for no other reason than they were born men, for past injuries to the ever-changing Feminine Imperative. Your existence as a man today, your failed understanding to accommodate women’s social primacy, your lack of catering to the ambiguous nature of what conveniently passes for masculinity, is a constant stinking affront and obstacle to the “advancement” of women. The Feminine Imperative has known how to manipulate men’s Burden of Performance for millennia, and at not other time in history has it had the unfettered leisure to do so than now.

So, we get socially acceptable default presumptions of ‘male privilege’ without qualifying what it even means, or we get catchy jingoisms like ‘mansplaining’ to give a name to women’s need for silencing men’s inconvenient observations of women’s ‘correct’ perceptions, decisions and the reasons they came to them. We get default presumptions of male guilt for sexual assault and sexual consent as fluidly defined in as convenient a way that serves women’s imperatives. As I’ve mentioned before, the true intent of feminism has never been about establishing a mutually agreed ‘equality’, rather it’s always been about retribution and restitution for perceived past wrongs to the sisterhood.

There has always been a subtext, a cover story, of equality mentioned in the same breath as feminism. Only the most antagonistic asshole, only the most anti-social prick, would be against “equality between the sexes”. Thus, to be against feminism is to be against a simplistic concept of baseline equality. However, taken out of the propagandizing efforts to shame and ‘correct’ men’s imperatives, it’s easy to demonstrate that the true intent of feminism is female ‘fempowerment’ in the dressing of an equality that no man (or woman) wants to appear to be against.

Yellowed Pearls

I found an interesting example of this  Catch 22 in the Economist recently. Pick and choose: Why women’s rights in China are regressing.

In 2007 China’s official Xinhua news agency published a commentary about women who were still unmarried at the age of 27 under the title, “Eight Simple Moves to Escape the Leftover Woman Trap”. The Communist Party had concluded that young Chinese women were becoming too picky and were over-focused on attaining the “three highs”: high education, professional status and income. Newspapers have since reprinted similar editorials. In 2011 one said: “The tragedy is they don’t realise that as women age they are worth less and less, so by the time they get their MA or PhD, they are already old, like yellowed pearls.”

In the last Red Pill Monthly discussion, I mentioned the expansion that the Feminine Imperative has taken on a global scale. One of the old missives of the manosphere has always been about how American women are too far gone to be worth ever entertaining beyond a pump-and-dump consideration. They are too damaged and self-absorbed beyond all redemption, and men ought to expatriate to another country where women are more feminine or at least necessitous enough to appreciate a conventionally masculine man.

I get that. I understand the want for a Poosy Paradise or some promised land where women are still raised to respect and love men by being conventionally feminine. I also get that there exist certain cultures where this is still true, but for all of that, I think it’s important to recognize the social undercurrent that the Feminine Imperative exercises in these cultures. A popular meme on Twitter is ‘Feminism is Cancer’, but there’s a kernel of truth to the humor of this. The spread of the westernizing social primacy of the Feminine Imperative is spreading, not unlike cancer, into what we would otherwise believe were societies and cultures still oppressed by the mythical Patriarchy – a belief necessary to perpetuate the narrative of default female victimhood.

It may not be now, but at some stage, the Feminine Imperative will exercise its presumptive control over even the societies we think ought to be immune from that cancer. As I mention on The Red Pill Monthly, even in underdeveloped countries where we would expect to find the horrible oppression of girls and women, we make a triumphant example of the incidents of where girls (not boys) are taught to read and “think for themselves”. Westernized culture, founded on the Feminine Imperative, celebrates every time a woman in Saudi Arabia is allowed to drive a car, much less run a business on her own as if it were some blow against the tyranny of men.

Little by little, or in leaps and bounds, your second or third world Poosy Paradise will eventually be assimilated by the Feminine Imperative.

I bring this up because, as you’ll read in the linked article, China is also experiencing the long-term results of having adopted feminine social primacy in its own culture. From women’s popular consciousness, we’re still, to this day, told of how horrible “communist” China has been in mandating its one-child policy and how its draconian ‘sons live, daughters die’ social structure has been the result. However, once we reasonably investigate it, we find that China now has a problem with “Yellowed Pearls” as a result of a cultural shift that placed women’s interests as preeminent in that culture. And it should be noted that this shift came about as the direct result of the men who adopted and accommodated the Feminine Imperative as their own.

Now the problem for women in China is not unlike the plight of American women bemoaning the lack of men with “equal” marriageability as themselves. And likewise, the self-same social authorities responsible for institutionalizing the fempowerment of women are now the horrible misogynist villains for suggesting that women ought to lower their unrealistic standards.

The tone of these articles is surprising, given the Communist Party’s past support for women’s advancement. Mao Zedong destroyed China, but he succeeded in raising the status of women. Almost the first legislation enacted by the Communist Party in 1950 was the Marriage Law under which women were given many new rights, including the right to divorce and the right to own property.

Sounds a far cry different from the pictures women, even women in this century, have painted of China’s institutionalized, one-child sexism doesn’t it? Remember, this advancement in women’s rights took place before the Cultural Revolution in China.

Though collectivisation made the latter largely irrelevant, women played an active role in Mao’s China, and still do today. By 2010 26% of urban women had university degrees, double the proportion ten years earlier. Women now regularly outperform men at Chinese universities, which has led to gender-based quotas favouring men in some entrance exams. However, many of the earlier advances have been eroded in recent years by the gradual re-emergence of traditional patriarchal attitudes.

Consider this part in contrast to other industrialized nations and how women have increased their socio-political standing as the result of having the Feminine Imperative adopted as the primary social order of those cultures. Even in cultures that are still popularly deemed “repressive” to women we see educational and socioeconomic parallels to western(ized) cultures. We also see the same resulting consequences and the shifting of blame for them to men. The downside of Yellowed Pearls is placed at the feet of men for not living up to the convenient, feminine-primary definition of what their Burden of Performance ought to mean in promoting and forgiving women’s decisions.

The party has joined an alliance of property companies and dating websites to confront the issue. Government surveys on marriage and property are often sponsored by matchmaking agencies, and perpetuate the perception that being “leftover” is the worst thing that can happen to a woman. They also promote other myths, such as the idea that a man must have a house before he can marry.

As you may expect, the tone of the article is written to emphasize an egalitarian perspective that conflicts with a reality that the Feminine Imperative would have men change or be responsible for not having changed. It’s men’s fault that women might feel bad for not having married by a post-wall age. It’s men’s fault for promoting myths that women would expect that a man must be successfully established in his life and career before any considerations of marriage occur to him. It’s also a man’s fault for clinging to the “myth” that women don’t want him to be established.

The law is reflecting the shift away from women’s empowerment too. An interpretation by the Supreme Court in 2011 of the 1950 Marriage Law stated that, when a couple divorces, property should not be shared equally, but each side should keep what is in his or her own name. This ruling, says Ms Fincher, has serious implications. In the big cities a third of marriages now end in divorce but, based on hundreds of interviews, she finds that only about 30% of married women have their name on the deeds of the marital flat. Women believe the party hype about becoming a “leftover” woman so strongly, she says, that many rush into unhappy marriages with unsuitable men, made on condition that the brides agree not to put their name on the property deeds.

Feminism Would be a Success if Men Would Only Cooperate More

Several years ago Dalrock had a post detailing the sentiment of feminists that feminism would be a success if only men would cooperate with the ideology by abandoning their own interests and sublimating their own biological impulses. The fact remains that feminism and egalitarianism are failed ideologies because at the root level those ideologies ask men to participate in their own extinction. Not only this, but they ask men to raise successive generations to accommodate and participate in their own degradation.

The narrative expects Yellowed Pearls to be prized by men, or respected as Spinsters, or pandered to as ‘Cougars’ while still maintaining men sublimate their own imperatives by willfully ignoring the fact that their own sexual strategy is what is being asked of them to abandon. As I stated in the Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies, for one sex’s strategy to succeed the other must either be compromised or abandoned – what better way is there to assure this for women than to socially mandate through shame, persecution or financial liabilities that men abandon their own strategy in favor of women?

For some time now, I’ve detailed how for the past 4 or 5 generations, there has been a popular social re-engineering effort to raise and condition boys to become the ‘better betas‘ – boys designed to become the supportive male-reinforcers of empowering women’s interests and imperatives.

For a greater part this effort has been primarily focused on boys and men in western society, and while it’s still open for debate, I’d say that westernizing cultures are really the only cultural environments that can afford to entertain this ‘fempowerment’. This is changing radically now if it was ever really the case to begin with.

In the manosphere we like to highlight the ‘pussification’ of modern men through various efforts on the part of a nebulous ‘socitey’ aligned against masculinity. However, the flip side to this is the fempowerment agenda; an feminine-primary social structure that disallows any criticism of inherently female nature while promoting the empowerment of women on every level of social strata.

We coddle and cater to the feminine in every aspect of social interaction, every aspect of academic achievement, every socioeconomic advantage inventable, every story we tell in every form of media and we do so under the threat of not being supportive or misogynistic for suggesting anything marginally pro-masculine. This is the other side of the demasculinization imperative of boys & men – the total consolidation of handicaping men and empowering women into unrealistic effigies of feminine triumphalism.

How do you counter this?

I’m always lauded for describing these social dynamics, but I’m run up the flagpole for not offering concrete ways of dealing with and pushing back on these imperatives. Many a MGTOW will simply suggest men no longer play the Game, that isolationism is the way to go, but this only serves to eventually concede power to the Feminine Imperative. You don’t get to check out of the Game even if you refuse to play it. For all the guys who left for parts unknown to find their demi-utopia of feminine women in a foreign country, even they will explain that the tide of feminism is changing those seemingly idlyic places. And for every guy to voluntarilly go celebate and “refuse to deal with women” I’ll show you a man whose tax dollars go to fund the consequences of women’s legislated rights to Hypergamous choice.

Sooner or later Men will have to confront and push back against both men and women who are convinced of their purpose in idealizing the dictates of the Feminine Imperative. A lot of men in the ‘sphere believe their being clever when they refer to people with this worldview as ‘SJWs’, but for every hair dyed, gender-confused man-woman you see on Twitter there are hundreds of ‘normal’ people who all share similar perspectives – some simply subconscious generalization they’re oblivious to – sitting next to you at church, or working in the cubicle next to you.

As I’ve mentioned countless times, the change needs to take place by appealing to the hearts and minds of Men by making them Red Pill aware from the bottom up, but moreover, we need to live out that awareness in our own lives and lead by Red Pill example. Our decisions in life, our aspiration in parenting, family and career, in our business dealings, in the women we Game and the people we hire, all of these aspects need to take on the perspective of how they fit into pushing back against a feminine-primary world that demands we surrender any thought of individuated male power.

As Men, we need to unapologetically exercise what little power we’re left with to inform this and successive generation of Red Pill truths tactfully, but with strength of conviction in the face of a feminine-primary society bent on our surrender. Life finds a way. Feminism and the consolidation of the Feminine Imperative have failed because Men were not evolved to acquiesce their dominant spirit. On the same evolutionary level women also evolved into requiring that convnetionally masculine dominance. This is why feminism and egalitarianism will ultimately fail – nature simply will not cooperate with it’s own stagnation. As men, we can use this truth to our Red Pill aware advantage.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Hehe,..I guess I should feel honored you’d start a Twitter account just to tell me all of that X. From what I remember though, you’ve been ‘buying’ young ass in SEA for some time now. I’m not sure how that constitutes ‘seducing’ young ass, but hey, if you feel that what I write should be disregarded as ‘bad teaching’ because I’ve been married for 20 years, you can always look to Roosh for inspiration on how to live a rewarding life. I still love you X. Yours has always been one of my earliest blog reads and I still pop… Read more »

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wtf is going on here?

xsplat, who pissed in your cheerios this morning?

I will expand on some thoughts later, but for now I have a question for you: Do any of your posts get 30 comments? Especially over the past 6 months?

I read you a few years ago, but you bored the ever loving fuck out of me.

Life is indeed pretty cyclical, evidently.

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lol…” fuck young ass “. Step 1) place penis in ” young ass “. preferably female ass.

Seems simple.

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Blaximus “So fuck mean, unhappy hoes”

Trying man… Trying…

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Blaximus writes:

Ok fine. Take that babbling nutjob out of mod. Lmao. I have become a master of the scroll wheel thanks to her.
>>>>>

I don’t have any anger or animosity towards you or any of the other board members; I’ve never met you. It is the internet; so maybe I’m a little more provocative than I would be at work or at a luncheon. Sometimes when I do little variations on your screen names…it is just for fun and maybe to get a laugh…but there is no actual malice behind it.

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That’s sound logic, Blasfimus. Zeig! Heil! Zeig! Heil!

“How dare you offend our most treasured and popular leader!”

By the way, as proof of you logic skills, where is your popular blog?

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X Lol. I’m not defending anyone. I’m calling bullshit on your comment(s). And yeah, you got me. I don’t have a blog. But TRUST me X, neither do you, really. You have ” ramblings “. You have content that folks do not want to read and get involved in. Your ” style ” doesn’t fire the mind. Your comments betray you. They betray you. You are as cellophane. I could blog about you, and get more than 30 comments. I could TEACH you how to improve, but you dislike teachers and all. Maybe you need to go do some more… Read more »

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Xsplat
You are different just like everyone else is

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‘You HAVE to believe that.
Because YOU are not fucking young ass, it means I am paying for it.
That is exactly my point. You do not have a clue how to fuck young ass. And therefore you have no choice but to assume that I’m paying for it.”

or he actually read your blog …where you said its better to pay for it .Also that females don’t like your appearence etc. etc.

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Maybe I am confused. Since when did this site author, who goes by the moniker Rollo Tomassi, ever position TRM as a site where men can find information on how to “fuck young ass?” The primary reason I read TRM is, in fact, (outside of his uncanny ability to connect dots) because the author does not rely exclusively on its success to support himself financially. He appears to have a life mission that extends well beyond success with women and tapping scads of young, middle aged or old ass. I’m talking Joseph Campbell type shit here. If he did (like… Read more »

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LFAO!!! This fucking guy made a post about his comments here on TRM. Rollo Tomasi thinks all old men must pay for young ass Posted by xsplat on April 30, 2016 In response to my re-posting this post on Rollos blog, and tweeting a link to it on my years old twitter account, Rollo replied: [TL;DR Rollo is full of shit because he’s married. YaReally is too because he isn’t married yet. Read me instead because You aren’t full of shit. And the shit you are full of is not because you are married. Read for comprehension. You confuse some… Read more »

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@Blaximus. Eye rolling is not an argument.

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@Wild Man: “so you understand the egalitarian but nevertheless you reject it . . .” I only reject things I understand well enough to do so. ” . . . as inconsequential? – foolhardy line or reasoning – you admit the egalitarian has much cultural influence (vis-a-vis Christianity) and as such, does it not then naturally follow that it is very much consequential . . .” Rejecting the concept as valid is not the same thing as rejecting the concept as existing. How could I reject it as valid if it didn’t exist? Should I join the Thugs because the… Read more »

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X-

I laugh up your sleeve.

I don’t care to argue with you. I was going to respond to your initial comment, but on 2nd thought, I’d rather respond to Karen for the rest of the damn day ( I ain’t doing that shit either..).

Oh man, that was a classic Bitch move.

Now run and post that shit on your blog.

B-I-T-C-H M-O-V-E

cellophane.

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… Today I was attacked by commenter on Rollo’s blog. He doesn’t know how to fuck young ass. No one knows how to fuck young ass but me. And I don’t pay for it. I swear I don’t. And I changed my appearance, and I’m trying to get rich because these are the things that matter. My therapist said so.

And married guys and PUA’s don’t get young ass. They don’t understand young ass.

And I’m not obsessed with the phrase ” young ass ” either.

http://www.sabinabecker.com/media/dat-ass.jpg

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xsplat – Hey I’m not familiar with your site (maybe I will have a look see). But your long comment above, got me to thinking again about a subject I have tried to broach here a couple of times – the utterly weird concept of guru-game, which is a real thing, and a guy like me could maybe perhaps still do that if I tried to develop it (cause I did get that kinda obsessive attraction from certain girls when I was a young man, and I really got no idea why exactly) but in the past I couldn’t get… Read more »

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@Wild Man Guru game can intersect with Daddy game and with MLTR game. I embody a Daddy archetype, which heavily overlaps with a Guru archetype. And yes, a subset of women of all ages are SEXUALLY (yes, Rollo SEXUALLY) attracted to that. There is a minority of women who have a conscious and articulate attraction for both of those archetypes, and a larger subset who have an unconscious SEXUAL attraction, and then there are some who can learn that attraction. I prefer MLTR and LTR. So Rollo’s comment about Roosh is pure dissimulation. He is likely aware that I have… Read more »

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xsplat – this Daddy archetype as heavily overlapping with Guru archetype – doesn’t the gushing of the women so-predisposed towards attraction to that, freak you out?

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@Wildman, when I said that I embody the Daddy archetype, I meant it. It’s not mere role play in order to trigger a desired response. I am sexually attracted to and genuinely love the women that love me, and I feel that they love me for who I really am. I’m 50 years old, and I deserve to be loved and respected as a Daddy, because I have paternal feelings of deep and genuine love, while at the same time having a raging hard on. It works all around. I don’t complain about the weather, and the weather doesn’t freak… Read more »

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@Stuffinbox. Have you ever been loved? Did you ever feel that you were worthy of love?

If you have never felt worthy of love while at the same time having been loved by another person, would you like to start to begin to put yourself into the position of being at the starting point of being able to imagine that?

There is such a “thing” as two people deserving each others affection. It’s more of a choice and a mindset than a thing. But it happens.

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@Xplat

LOL.

Last time I checked, men have different preferences in how they choose to live their life.

http://classes.kumc.edu/sah/resources/sensory_processing/images/bell_curve.gif

And, also, last time I checked a few men have acquired Rollo Tomassi’s version of real power.

I tapped my wife’s ass pussy 27 years ago. It still feels the same today. Really. I like it. But I’ll admit to my solipsism and she’s less messy than a harem.

So thanks for the spam.

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@ xsplat
Yes,yes,do you mean fixin to get ready to get started or start to begin to put myself in the position of being at the starting point of being able to imagine that?.WTF are you from Canada?

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There is a Mariana Trench deep pervasive undercurrent in most of the Manosphere. It is this: “I am not worth of love and sexual lust”. And it gets projected out onto this: “Women are hypergamous and can’t love and lust after me for who I am”. This attitude is a choice. There is tremendous sexual fluidity in yourself, and in the sexual marketplace as a whole. A great many assumptions about other peoples sex lives are mirror reflections, because they are PROJECTIONS. Ugly and old men CAN’T have young women sexually lusting after and orgasming on them? That is PROJECTION… Read more »

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Unconditional love. Question: Do people ” deserve ” unconditional love? Are the majority of humans capable of unconditional love? Is everyone worthy of love? Is that the way things work, or a feel good fairy tale? For the Record, I have unconditional love for a select few, and they ” earned ” it. I have had unconditional love for my newborn children because they depend on my and they are my offspring. I am 55 and at this age, I know better. Unconditional love is rare. Most people are incapable of it, no matter how much one may feel that… Read more »

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xsplat – OK – I am assuming these young women “gush” for you (you know psychologically submit) – but maybe I am misunderstanding the dynamic you are experiencing – gush – yes or no? Assuming gush – yes – then, for me the thing is, I am losing respect for this woman, because she is psychologically submitting. I don’t want her to submit (except by way of exploring sexual fantasies of sexual submission, in bed, which is fine, if that’s what the woman wants – I be somewhat kinky so I like all sorts of sexual stuff). Instead I want… Read more »

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@SJF. It was not my intention to diss your marriage, or your lust after your wife. But are you telling me that you have no eyes for any other women? Are you telling me that you believe that Playboy and Penthouse and most of all images sold to the marketplace of men looking for arousal are not actually of young women? Are you trying to tell me that you are not more sexually aroused by the sight of a young woman (who is not your wife) than of an old woman? Nobody ever implied that you were not aroused by… Read more »

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Well, I am well know for being inscrutable.

Like a bell curve I am not like other men. I have lived my life to be two standard deviations beyond the mean. (the good end)

You ask very good questions. And interesting ones.

I don’t need to be more sexually aroused by other women.

But I am just one man and I would be an idiot to project my situ or frustrations lack of frustrations on others.

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@Wild Man: I long ago lost hope and even interest in a perfect and ideal love. I have a hard time even remembering the ideals that were once so important to me. You are asking questions that to me don’t mean anything anymore. One by one: 1) Women are deficient in aptitude for personal agency and so are incapable of returning the hope for mutual respect (I think I have refuted this stance as hogwash – I could share my argument for that if you like) Personal agency is a rabbit hole. How deep you do you want to go… Read more »

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Rollo, you have a good blog here. I especially like your post on the Lonely Old Man Myth from 2011 (I found that while Googling The Myth of Loneliness).

However, after I read another post of yours, you seem to be too into this “looks matter a lot” philosophy.

Social Kenny, a guy that you are friends with, had some good entries about this on his blog:

Link 1: https://kennyspuathoughts.com/2015/06/16/do-looks-matter-the-final-say-on-looks/

In this link, Kenny says this:

Quote”Guys who believe that looks matter, are usually the ones who can’t get laid to save their life!”Quote

Link 2: https://kennyspuathoughts.com/2014/02/01/do-looks-matter-the-truth/

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“I long ago lost hope and even interest in a perfect and ideal love. I have a hard time even remembering the ideals that were once so important to me. Personal agency is a rabbit hole. How deep you do you want to go down that? No philosopher has ever gone down that hole and come back up sane. There is no answer to that question. Personal agency is an illusion, or to put it more kindly, a construct of our language and brain wiring. It is meaningless. For both men and women. And I’m picking up a scent of… Read more »

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@ SJF Most times what you describe is beyond the understanding of many men. But that’s cool. No problem. I left home today and my wife was there. Before I left, I was busily checking her out. She is still attractive, even sexy. I will bang tonight. I want to. I chatted up a much younger woman on my way to work. She was, maybe…21 or so. She was gorgeous in that she had all that I find attractive in a woman. It was very nice talking to her. It was a lot of fun. It was kinda sexual mostly.… Read more »

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@SJF

I don’t want to speak for Rollo, but that sounds like something he wrote once as red pill theory.

Yes, Rollo is a brilliant writer who has many rediscovered timeless insights. Some would say original insights, but I have a hard time believing that there are that many original insights left in regards to the human condition.

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Some people deserve life without parole,doesn’t mean they are going to get it.
Some people deserve easy street , doesn’t mean they are going to get it.

Most should be thankfull that deserves got nothing to do with it.

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“There are no principles; there are only events. There is no good and bad, there are only circumstances. The superior man espouses events and circumstances in order to guide them. If there were principles and fixed laws, nations would not change them as we change our shirts and a man can not be expected to be wiser than an entire nation.”

HONORÉ DE BALZAC, 1799-1850

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“Yes, Rollo is a brilliant writer who has many rediscovered timeless insights. Some would say original insights, but I have a hard time believing that there are that many original insights left in regards to the human condition.”

(What follows is not referencing Rollo….)

Most skilled artists reinterpret, with wisdom, themes they have assimilated from other artists. It is often legit to trace rather that draw free-hand. Who gives a shit if it was original when masculine agency and power (and sexual strategy) are concerned?

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@SJF, I am often guilty of taking credit for insights. And yet sometimes I notice the incredible power of subconscious processing. Have you ever glanced at a page of a book, only to have parts of the page jump out at you that you were not paying attention to and did not know (or believe possible) that you were seeing? I have this happen to me often. It’s common with the capitol letter X, for instance, but sometimes it’s more complicated phrases. We really have no ability to be conscious of what we are not conscious of, and so the… Read more »

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xsplat – OK – I like what you said in the last paragraph of your last comment directed my way. Men and women have different focus and different motivations is how I like to say it. For me …… I think these differences are partly meant to actually serve as inspiration – men for women, and women for men. And I think we all could profit from being more aware of what is inspiring about the other – and I think the redpill discussion should now head that way. Now xsplat, wrt your other comments – I define personal agency… Read more »

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@xplat Imagine you are a few years older,you have a very high n count from your youth and have been married to the same woman for say 30+ years.You have some healthy loving children with this woman,you have been through some serious hard times together and now share a sense of humor.You have been unfaithfull and suspect so has she but that is all in the past with lessons learned. Now imagine that you have no bills and assets worth over 500k + more potential left to run on.Would you really at this juncture risk throwing this away for one… Read more »

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@Xplat I don’t have that feeling. Pretty much never. My consciousness over-rides my unconscious pretty much always. I know where my thoughts come from and they don’t just happen. I create them. “I’m not denying re-organizing of information in novel ways. I’m just saying that even the novel ways have often been organized freshly in the past, in regards to timeless themes, such as relations between men and women.” Modern day “noise” and the Feminine Imperative seem to over-ride the the masculine agency signals in the last 50 years. Old time men knew this shit, they just didn’t write it… Read more »

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I was being a bit facile about dismissing agency. To be more nuanced I should say I doubt it’s possible to reconcile our gut feeling about agency with an objective logical truth about agency. Much of our agency is chosen for us before we are born – the choices were are free to make are constrained by choices we did not make. Our firmware is not a choice. Our enculturation is not a choice. It’s not possible to untangle the knots and point to something that is agency. But on a practical level, I’m all about agency, and that is… Read more »

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@Stuffinbox. I was not aware that most men commenting and reading this blog are roughly 60 years old and have been married for about thirty years. Are you aware of that? I think you are just making that up. And for those men that are in that position, you are trapped, and enjoying your cage. More power to you. It’s still a cage. And it means you don’t know how to not be trapped. It means you did not create a life where you were not trapped. That’s fine by me. But living that life means that you do not… Read more »

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” I believe that Rollo is ignorant of his own and other men’s sexual potential.”

What blog have you been reading?

I don’t get that same vibe here. Not even close.

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@Blaximus, I’ve been reading the blog where after I talk about my personal experience with young virgins who were deeply infatuated with me, Rollo keeps talking about how women are afraid of me and that I pay for them.

Just last night a women who has never slept with any other man other than me was in my bed. She earns more money than do most readers of this blog, and I’ve never given her a dime.

I’m reading the blog where this fact can not and will never be heard.

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@xplat
I eat what I like,sleep when I like,pick and choose my work and spend my time when and where and how i like.In essence I have a total freedom of mind and agency.Even if I were behind bars I would be free.

Blax,SJF,Rollo,Myself and many others have far more experience than you,to bad most of your target audience is out chasing poon on a saturday night,getting the experience we have.

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@Xplat “Men have free agency to increase their sexual marketplace value. I believe that Rollo’s writings are fundamentally about accepting the sexual marketplace as it is.” False premise and straw man argument. That is how you see it. I don’t. Rollo can be faulted for never having walked in an AFC’s shoes (except for his four years of BPD hell when he didn’t know any better), but he doesn’t need to give a prescription to AFC’s because he understands that that is a fools game. I.e most men would screw up even if he gave them a pre-script. So it… Read more »

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Scratch that,to bad,fortunately is more like it.

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” I was not aware that most men commenting and reading this blog are roughly 60 years old and have been married for about thirty years. Are you aware of that? I think you are just making that up. And for those men that are in that position, you are trapped, and enjoying your cage. More power to you. It’s still a cage. And it means you don’t know how to not be trapped. It means you did not create a life where you were not trapped.” http://d65852kwq1u8u.cloudfront.net/uploads/7513_smokincrack.jpg I don’t think we mature gentlemen make up a majority here. No… Read more »

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@stuffinbox

Blax,SJF,Rollo,Myself and many others have far more experience than you,to bad most of your target audience is out chasing poon on a saturday night,getting the experience we have.

Rollo is younger than me.

I’m not a PUA and don’t have a PUA target audience.

I’ve been married before.

You assume much. You listen little.

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” Just last night a women who has never slept with any other man other than me was in my bed. She earns more money than do most readers of this blog, and I’ve never given her a dime.” Lol. I’ve worked hard and long and I didn’t do it for the hell of it. I’d match this chick financial worth for financial worth and she’d get her financial feelings hurt. Lol, but it’s not about that really ( I just hate money comparison yapping… U don’t know shit about muh situation or what Teachers have TAUGHT me ) Pussy,… Read more »

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Rollo may be younger but he has spent more time paying attention to what matters.I have been listening to you,the things that you feel are important,have proven for me to be the trap.
Am I to believe,that” daddy game and guru game” are not PUA in some way? Why do you try to sell,banging virgins,threesomes,orgys Etc. as freedom and happiness?

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@Blaximus, you mentioned that you don’t want to argue with me. And yet you keep trying to engage me. But I don’t feel that you are engaging what I am actually writing. It seems you are engaging lots of presumptions. Perhaps if you quoted what I actually say, and refute what I actually say, it would be more engaging. I have never said that I have anything against men being married, or living that lifestyle. Do you think that I ever said that? If so, why do you think that? What I have said, is that if a man is… Read more »

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@ stuff-

” Rollo may be younger but he has spent more time paying attention to what matters.I have been listening to you,the things that you feel are important,have proven for me to be the trap.
Am I to believe,that” daddy game and guru game” are not PUA in some way? Why do you try to sell,banging virgins,threesomes,orgys Etc. as freedom and happiness?”

http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/522550/thumb_jesus-says-meme-generator-jesus-says-you-re-a-winner-a49f4d.jpg

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@xplat wrote: “I believe that Rollo is ignorant of his own and other men’s sexual potential. I believe that this can be harmful to the man who could otherwise learn and cultivate ambition.” This seems rather myopic and one-dimensional. What ambition? Raising one’s SMV to attain pussy nirvana? Or is a man better served understanding how SMV operates as a minor, but necessary auxiliary agent within his own life’s greater (married, single, pLTR) ecosystem? NASA Project Team Lead: “WTF just happened to our Jupiter probe?” NASA engineer to project team lead: “I reprogrammed it to land on Europa. I figured… Read more »

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” Blaximus, you mentioned that you don’t want to argue with me. And yet you keep trying to engage me”

Good point.

Done.

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This seems rather myopic and one-dimensional. What ambition? Raising one’s SMV to attain pussy nirvana? How on earth can anyone come to the conclusion that raising ones sexual marketplace value is myopic and one dimensional? Does the quality of the women you can attract mean so little to you? Has it such little bearing on your life satisfaction? I’ve said it before, and it may be arrogant of me, but I’ll say it again. I have a very difficult time believing that if the world changed overnight and suddenly everyone’s wives were down with it, and suddenly the very hottest… Read more »

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“What I have said, is that if a man is not fucking young ass, he does not understand how to fuck young ass, and therefore has limited understanding of himself and of women.”

Some of us, including Blaximus, heard you loud and clear the first time.

And that is a simple straw man fallacy. And it seems to be the story you are sticking to. And that is also what is called virtue signalling.

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“Life is improved by intimacy with attractive young women. To me, that is an undeniable fact.”

Life is messy. I’m plenty messy but I don’t have time for more of being messier than I already am.

In other words, I don’t want to use all my entropy on strange pussy. (Entropy= lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.)
But that is me and I don’t plan to evangelize–convert or seek to convert (someone) .

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764 comments and counting….

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“How on earth can anyone come to the conclusion that raising ones sexual marketplace value is myopic and one dimensional?”

Last time I checked, red pill awareness and game is 90% raising ones sexual marketplace value and the other half of it has never been one-dimensional. And that is 100% what this blog is about. Come along for the ride.

Once again, you start with false premises.

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@EC – Who are you talking to? You seem to think that you are paraphrasing me. And yet I’ve explicitly stated opinions exactly contrary to the words you try to put in my mouth.

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@ Blaximus

If in an alternate universe,LOL,a high value attractive experienced married 55 yo male that has had bus loads of foxey young poon.
Suddenly for some reason started chasing this stuff again as if his identity existed on it.Would you think he had an identity crisis?

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@Stuffinthebox. You really have no interest in engaging what I actually say, have you? You’d really prefer to have a conversation with some figment in your head? Identity crisis? Is that the only motivation that you can come up with for being naked with a young woman? You are only five years older than me. And yet you assume. ASSUME. ASSUME!!!! That MY motivation must be due to a crisis of identity. Jesus. Can you even remember how great if feels to be with a young woman? It’s just biological man. That doesn’t go away with age. If it does,… Read more »

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Fempowerment Yes, women have too much power and must/will lose power. “Many a MGTOW will simply suggest men no longer play the Game, that isolationism is the way to go, but this only serves to eventually concede power to the Feminine Imperative. You don’t get to check out of the Game even if you refuse to play it.” What? MGTOW don’t give a shit about the FI. Association with women = spending lots of money. Don’t associate = problem solved. “As I’ve mentioned countless times, the change needs to take place by appealing to the hearts and minds of Men… Read more »

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@xplat wrote: “Does the quality of the women you can attract mean so little to you? Has it such little bearing on your life satisfaction?” The assumption, of course, being that I have not/do not currently attract “quality” (highly subjective and situational term, BTW) women. I have and do. Pussy and the company of women do give me a specific form of satisfaction; but I do not let them run or impact the other 80 percent of my life. In fact, do you know what gives me even greater satisfaction than sinking PinV in a 22-YO DTFer (true btw)? Noticing… Read more »

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To be totally honest I lost 25 cents in the park once in this shell game,this ones honey this ones funny and this ones money,and ever since I have been wary of any inconsistencies.

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EC – you know nothing about what percentage of my thoughts and energy go towards women.

And I’m convinced that you don’t want to know. You will never ask me. And if I show you evidence that you are incorrect, you will not be able to process it.

You are talking to a figment of your own imagination.

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@Ajax, I assumed nothing about your current sexual status and who you can attract, other than that it could be improved, and who you could attract could be improved.

I think that’s a fairly safe assumption. I’d wager money on that and come out ahead more times than not.

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@ jbsptfn ” However, after I read another post of yours, you seem to be too into this “looks matter a lot” philosophy. Social Kenny, a guy that you are friends with, had some good entries about this on his blog: Link 1: https://kennyspuathoughts.com/2015/06/16/do-looks-matter-the-final-say-on-looks/ In this link, Kenny says this: Quote”Guys who believe that looks matter, are usually the ones who can’t get laid to save their life!”Quote Link 2: https://kennyspuathoughts.com/2014/02/01/do-looks-matter-the-truth/” This is an old argument. I don’t weigh in usually, but quoting Social Kenny makes me want to opine. Looks are an individual thing at the core. Anecdotal example:… Read more »

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@ stuff

” @ Blaximus

If in an alternate universe,LOL,a high value attractive experienced married 55 yo male that has had bus loads of foxey young poon.
Suddenly for some reason started chasing this stuff again as if his identity existed on it.Would you think he had an identity crisis?”

Without a doubt.

He should have his thyroid levels checked asap.

Lol…

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@ EC

A man can ” get ” them at college age, but they can smell desperation and thirst.

They are already leary of your intentions.

they may fuck you if you don’t make a huge deal about them being young and hawt. Many see older males as ” experienced ” and want to try it out.

Just don’t be ” that old guy chasing young tail..”.

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…oh yeah, young pussy hasn’t changed since I was young. A 20 year old that can’t fuck ( we magically assume that they can ) is the same now as they were then.

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@xsplat I concede,That was a cold shot and yes I can remember all those lays,i am starting to forget most of their names. My life is so full of women that depend on me for income,food,shelter,guidance,fixing broken things,and their identities and status are attached to mine.From an aging mother,a tight and well trained wife,three daughters and a granddaughter. This ” burden of performance” ads much value to my life,all the birthdays aneversaries,growing pains and shared experiences are things I wouldn’t trade for 1 shot at the young chicks that check me out every day. I know i’m a lucky bastard,that… Read more »

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@xplat wrote: “@Ajax, I assumed nothing about your current sexual status and who you can attract, other than that it could be improved, and who you could attract could be improved.” Absolutely. I have no argument with this. Just as my physique can be improved. I’m in pretty good shape now but if I were to decide to sit in my office knocking out pushups and looking at myself with my shirt off for extended periods of the day — my employer might have a problem with that. The end result of which would negatively impact the larger part of… Read more »

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It’s surprising to me how much resistance many guys have even to the very idea of being with much younger women. It must be about an identity crisis! It must be about hormonal imbalance! It must be about way out of whack priorities! It must be this or that or that or this – but not about how great and life improving it is to be naked with young women. People absolutely can’t stand having ambitions that seem out of reach, and will go so far as to deny other people the possibility that others have and are reaching good… Read more »

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I forgot this one – it must be all about bragging! Any dissumulation available will be grabbed at. Never mind that it could actually be about the fact that men are biologically hard wired to get pleasure from being with attractive women, and that it’s been scientifically well studied (as explained on the OK cupid blog) that men of all ages rate women between the ages of 19 and 24 as the peak of attractiveness. Never mind the FACT that men are throughout their lives most attracted to young women. Dissimulate as if your very ego’s depended on it guys.… Read more »

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“It is not that I can’t have it truly is that I no longer need it.”

I wish I would have said that.

Oh, wait, what? I did.

Xplat is simply explain bragging.

Good luck with that. No one truly comes here to comment if they are actually complete in life. Except, perhaps, Blaximus and Rollo.

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Men are hard wired to perform. Easy pussy is a by-product of that.

Good egos can be at peace with the dissimulation (pretend, deceive, feign, act, dissemble, masquerade, pose, posture, sham, fake, bluff). Good performance doesn’t need to dissimulate, unless it does.

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@xsplat
Don’t get your shorts in a bunch now sonny,I believe you.Keep doing what you are doing and you will keep getting what you are getting when it stops working for you do something else.
That is your agency.
This is mine.

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xsplat – interesting points you make. I guess I somewhat disagree with your paraphrase of Rollo’s redpill sentiment, yet I too am perplexed by some of his sentiment but for slightly different reasons that what you have alluded to. I don’t think Rollo has really counseled anything wrt to ignorance of his own and other men’s sexual potential, except if you mean that by way of Rollo presenting his ideas as the man’s sexual potential being contingent on his “burden of performance” as dictated by the expedites of the sexual marketplace. If you meant it that way – then yes… Read more »

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@xsplat:

What blog have you been reading?

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@Kfg; I already answered this exact question. Should I copy and paste for you?

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@SJF
good point,good night.

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@KFG, I’m reading the blog where my real lived personal experience is repeatedly called a lie in the comments by the blog Author, Rollo. If that happened to you, would you not come to the conclusion that the author had a mental map that was not capable of understanding how it is that you manage to truly live the life the way you do? I don’t think I can be more clear. People have a very, very strong resistance to hearing a word that I am saying. Let alone believing it. That’s because of an ignorant mental map. No two… Read more »

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@xsplat: ” I already answered this exact question.” I know, I’ve read the entire thread. That’s why I asked. “If that happened to you, would you not come to the conclusion that the author had a mental map that was not capable of understanding how it is that you manage to truly live the life the way you do?” Indeed. Yet I am older than you, have been forthright about consorting with women who are as young, and younger, than those you claim for yourself, and have not had that experience. Indeed, on those few occasions when he has commented… Read more »

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@xsplat:

“once they are in their 30s, they are probably more attractive than the young 4s and 5s that would be desperate enough to have sex with a guy in his 50s.” –EC

Of course there are the exceptions.

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So lemme get this straight….Xplat has a bug up his ass from Rollo bagging on his exploits on some unnamed blog. And he wants to tell Rollo’s commentariat what they already know and dis them for what they don’t need?

You got a rant that is kind of personal. While a blog tries to be universal.

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* singing * People are strange…when your a stranger….

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G’night fellas.

My old old , over 20 wife is smiling and tossing that magnificent mane. Time to put her to her favorite test.

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@Blaxximus

Dude, I don’t know if you’re aware of this but you just tee-d someone up for the next line — which goes brilliantly with Rollo’s MGTOW comment.
May I?

“Women seem wicked … when you’re unwanted….”

lol

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Rollo – the thing is – you really never wanted to engage in any exchange with me. At the beginning of my commenting here it was just you answering my questions by linking to some older articles of yours in which I was apparently supposed to find the answer to my precise query. But your writing (like alot of authors) is a self-referential set of concepts, and so often don’t address queries outside of the edifice of such narration (and you never did fully addressed my questions, but made out, tone-wise, like you did). So I asked further questions that… Read more »

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@ Rollo T.

You never thought I was A.I. to begin with…but by calling me that; banning me…and then quickly unbanning me…you managed to elicit a confession.
Very nicely played!

Props!

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