The 21 Convention – Patriarch’s Edition

If you’re a father can you still be ‘Red Pilled’? Does being married automatically define you as a Beta, because what Red Pill aware male would willingly signup for the raw deal that marriage represents to men? Especially when he should know better by glean of that Red Pill awareness, right?

A lot of critics think this is some new question, but we’ve been discussing this and other classic debate topics among my blog’s commentariat for a long time now. And even before my blog existed these same debates were hashed out on the SoSuave forums as far back as 2002. Every so often I’ll have a noob criticize me for something he believes I haven’t thought of, but I’ve been writing what I do since 2001-02.

There are many issues that resurface in cycles in what’s now the Red Pill / Manosphere. I constantly see the same snarky questions pop up in Tweets or forums from guys new to the ‘sphere. I can’t really pick on any one faction of the ‘sphere for this cycle of criticism. The hardcore MGTOWs have a global hatred of all things PUA to the point that anything that smells like deference to women makes you a “pussy beggar“. And, of course, it must be because someone is making a buck off of the naiveté of hapless Blue Pill chumps whenever someone dares to suggest a guy might actually want to involve himself with women.

On the other side is the all-or-nothing PUA camp (a scene that’s been contracting more than most critics want to admit) for which Game-Is-All, but likewise getting married makes little sense. Marriage and family only ever become an issue once the ‘player‘ progresses to the point that his ability to ‘swoop hot girls’ is superseded by his want to make his unresolved Blue Pill ideals come true. Still, marriage is an end to the novelty of new women. Besides, marriage is a fool’s decision today. This is an odd point of agreement among the two camps.

Furthermore, this is only the criticism of marriage and family in the modern era. There’re always the predictable, cyclic, waves of ignorance about many Red Pill tenets. Some are so predictable Roissy wrote a post about them in 2010 – The Unbearable Triteness of Hating. Have a look at how many of these resurface periodically in the Manosphere.

A lot of this ignorance is founded in the process of unplugging. A guy new to Red Pill awareness often struggles with the conflict of his Red Pill understanding and reconciling it with his old Blue Pill ego-investments. They’re not stupid. On the contrary, it’s their intelligence that makes them doubt things, but they are simply ignorant of the work that’s come before them in the Manosphere. They understand just enough about what aligns with their own belief set and reject anything that challenges them to drop an internalized ego-investment about women, intersexual dynamics, and what they believe men’s role should be in it.

The 21 Convention – Patriarch’s Edition

On May 3-5, 2019 I will be speaking at the 21 Convention – Patriarch’s Edition conference in Orlando, Florida.

This will be a unique event in the Manosphere; one that focuses on applying Red Pill awareness to issues of marriage and family. I wrote Positive Masculinity to address the questions I was getting from Red Pill fathers asking me for advice on how to go about being a Red Pill parent. This continues to be one of my most asked for advice topics. This convention’s purpose is intended to serve men in marriages, divorced men, fathers who want to ensure their sons (and daughters) are prepared to resist a Blue Pill world intent on his servitude.

This event is designed for the Red Pill father, the husband, the man coping with being Zeroed Out and young men who plan to be future fathers. This conference is for the man “awakened while married“, the man trying to turn the ship around in his marriage.

It’s not only for the married man though. It’s also for the divorced man whose unplugging occurred as a result of his divorce. It’s for the guy who wants to pass on his Red Pill wisdom to his kids in spite of the World Village aligned against him. It’s for the middle age man trying to figure it all out when he’s thrust into the modern sexual marketplace.

It’s for men with questions. What ended his marriage? How did he come to it? Was any of it worth it? How does he go on with his life after his wife detonated the marriage and he’s become Red Pill aware?

And it is for the man who sees a need to return conventional masculinity to its evolved, natural place in society and his own life. There are far too many Purple Pill ‘men’s organizations’ ostensibly promoting a  positive masculinity that only amounts to apologetics for toxic masculinity and a “we promise to do better” message that carries water for a gynocentric social order. We don’t apologize for being men. We wont beg permission to express the aspects of a conventional masculinity; even the aspects that conflict with the Feminine Imperative.

A Convention for Men

This is the Patriarch’s Edition of the 21 Convention. There’s a reason it was named this – it’s intentionally triggering to the mindset that despises anything masculine. It’s meant as an affront to organizations and individuals who think masculinity is ridiculous or evil, or something to be apologized for. It’s intended to be offensive to the Village.

Patriarch is a title that doesn’t just imply responsibility, but also a deserved respect and authority in being a man. And that masculine authority is sometimes rightly disrespectful to a feminine-primary sensibility. We reject the idea that masculinity is some nebulous, subjective definition of what makes a man a Man. We reject the idea that conventional masculinity is something obscure, ridiculous, “toxic” or inherently evil. And we reject the effeminate redefining of masculinity, often by oblivious men themselves, to better serve a Feminine Imperative.

That said, the reason I prefaced this announcement with the above discussion is because I’m getting some mixed response about whether or not “Red Pill” ought to extend beyond the context of Game (from the PUA side) or simply abstaining from marriage and potentially family altogether (the MGTOW side). Both of these perspectives need to understand that this convention is not intended to promote marriage as some idealistic goal for men. On the contrary, it’s about informing men of the very real dangers marriage poses to men. It’s also designed to promote conventional masculinity as a much needed solution to the endemic social ills created by an unquestioned female-supremacism that resulted from 50+ years of Fempowerment.

If you’re one of the men I’ve described above this is your conference. When this convention was first announced I had a lot of confused men asking me what it’s all about. Is this a good convention for me and my son? Is this for fathers, divorced men, men awakened while married? This convention is for all of these men and more.

I will be one of many invited speakers, including Elliott Hulse, at this event. Rather than give you an extensive list of the speakers (which often gets added to after I post announcements like this) I’ll just encourage you to check out the official 21 Convention site. Please use my links in this announcement if you plan to attend this in May. These are my affiliate links and the only way I get credit for the registration you purchase.

The topic of my speech will center on the importance of Red Pill mentorship among men, among families and among parents/mentors in a coming decade that will be defined by the Gender War we’re finding ourselves in. Furthermore, I’ll be doing some workshop groups with men who have specific questions about their own situations and give you some one on one Red Pill counseling. I’m not the only speaker who’ll be doing this, so please have a look at the official schedule on the 21 Convention site.

Finally, I want to also announce that I’ll be speaking at the upcoming 21 Convention in Poland this July as well as the main convention in Orlando, Florida in October again. No dates are set for these as yet, but the wheels are in motion and the announcements will be forthcoming as they get confirmed.

So, is this something you’d be interested in? The Red Man Group has also launched a Patriarch’s Edition of the panel discussion show this January. It’s a bi-weekly show that centers on many of the topics we’ll be covering at this event. This show is headed up by 21 Convention speaker Hunter Drew and it goes live every other Thursday evening at 8:30pm EST.

It’s always been my belief that Red Pill awareness, a rational, critical, sometimes harsh understanding of intersexual dynamics is not just something limited to picking up chicks or avoiding marriage. It’s an understanding of much broader ideas and how they related to varied aspects of our lives as single men, married men, fathers, mentors, influencers and leaders in our own way.

This event is something of an experiment to see how deep the rabbit hole goes with respect to what the Red Pill entails. What is most important to me is that events like this – and especially the shows I involve myself in – stay on Red Pill message. If you watched my State of the Manosphere Address video this was my primary concern going forward. It’s far too easy to dilute the message when so many voices want to be added to it. The Red Pill as a loose brand has already been appropriated by organizations that have no real understanding of it, but they recognize the reach it has for their own ‘brand of me’.

I want to avoid this dilution with everything I do.

So, if this convention is what you’ve finally been waiting for, understand that as far as I’m concerned you will only get the unvarnished, Red Pill ass kicking most men are in need of. I’m my own worst critic. There will never be an event I attend where I’ll sugarcoat the truth for men. There will never be a pep rally or a woo woo metaphysical appeal to what I offer. There will only ever be a nuts & bolts practical assessment of intersexual dynamics. That is the substance I promise you’ll get.

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Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Question for the RM Commentariat. Is a concerted Neo-Patriarchism actually feasible in this day and age? Or have we passed a point-of-no-return? If we have, what is to be done?

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“We don’t apologize for being men. We wont beg permission to express the aspects of a conventional masculinity; even the aspects that conflict with the Feminine Imperative.”

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I particularly liked the following phrase:

So, if this convention is what you’ve finally been waiting for, understand that as far as I’m concerned you will only get the unvarnished, Red Pill ass kicking most men are in need of.

If you’re taking marital vows, you’re entering the shark tank, so you had better be prepared. Also, it’s better for men to abstain from vows of exclusivity when marrying. Write your own vows. I wish that I had known this when I married.

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“Is a concerted Neo-Patriarchism actually feasible in this day and age?” There was a 400 year Dark Age between the “Women’s Lib” archaic Athens and the “Iron Fist” patriarchy of classical Athens. And the patriarchs of the classical world are generally held to be a different people from the archaic “libbers.” More or less rinse and repeat for Rome. It’s not a repetition, but it does rhyme. My own guestimation based on the history of previous cultures and having a look around this one is that we are not past the point of no return of the possible, but past… Read more »

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Check out this comment by Nick Krauser on his blog about your association with the 21 convention and Red Man Group. Both Krauser and his readers agree that you produce good content on inter gender dynamics but the men you promote and associate with are frauds and scamming bullshitters who give terrible advice. His comments section is open to you if you want to defend yourself. https://krauserpua.com/2019/02/15/players-path-london-seminar-on-march-2nd/#comment-121880 [From what? Krauser and me have always been good. He just doubts the guy’s I’ve associated with. That’s his prerogative, and in some instances he’s right to do so. The thing about the… Read more »

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@DraculaPUA “Check out this comment by Nick Krauser on his blog about your association with the 21 convention and Red Man Group. Both Krauser and his readers agree that you produce good content on inter gender dynamics but the men you promote and associate with are frauds and scamming bullshitters who give terrible advice.” @DraculaPUA There will always be snake oil salesmen out there, in every industry. Only listening and discussing with Rollo may be worth the investment for many men who are thinking seriously to start a marriage or who have been zeroed out. Anybody who has read Rollo… Read more »

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@OldYoonis “Is a concerted Neo-Patriarchism actually feasible in this day and age?” Yes, nature is in our side. “Or have we passed a point-of-no-return?” That point of no return is in your head. What men can create, men can destroy. “If we have, what is to be done” Concern with your own situation and apply patriarchy in your surroundings. Women are thirsty of men who can put them in their place. All this is just a giant shit test to separate the weaklings from the cremé de la cremé, it is just nature working. If you are the strongest personality… Read more »

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One of the things I notice about reading Rollo’s blog posts is how much I enjoy exploring the subject of women and Hypergamy and the Gender War. I love reading about it, writing about it and talking about it. It’s a fascinating subject. Way more fascinating, it seems, than actually spending time with women. It’s been two years since I broke up with my last girlfriend and I don’t miss being in a relationship one bit. I look at couples holding hands and feel no envy whatsoever. This is a huge change—I used to feel habitually lonely and miserable. But… Read more »

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” . . . what is to be done?” Like anything, you want options, but you have to figure out which options will be important and which will be critical and which will be rare. Form a tribe that will cover skillset options that you lack and need. Build a library that will be useful in the future. There may still be high tech, but not a lot of food, so basic gardening books might be important. Machinists will probably be very important. Everybody and his brother will probably have a still, so being able to make stills and the… Read more »

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I have the books and the discussion’s on this site are great, but these events just seem like a cash grab lol.

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” . . . basic gardening books might be important.”

Bearing in mind that if you need the information in gardening books and survival manuals to survive, it is far too late to start reading books.

Also bearing in mind that a garden will give you survival advantage, but will not support you. You’ll need a proper small and diversified farm for that, with animals.

And also bearing in mind that you will have to plan for surviving the extremes, not the average. Drought in the summer, freezing in the winter, etc.

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” I suppose I could ‘go clubbing’ or ‘sarging’ like I did in my younger days, but honestly … it feels like a chore.

Assuming sex is taken care of, what am I missing?”

Are you getting a steady stream of sex, however you define steady?

You need sex. Just asking.

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@ EhIntellect

The lack of sex bothers me, yes. Part of me is considering paying for it.

But another part says this is defeatist—that women have more to offer a man than sex. But I’m struggling with the question: What exactly?

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that women have more to offer a man than sex. But I’m struggling with the question: What exactly?

What they have, at least the younger ones [could be chronological or outlook], is feminine energy. You need that to fully appreciate your masculine energy. This isn’t some eastern thing… It’s just like a cock needs a pussy. It fits.

Always fun to be with some silly younger thing. Appreciate them for what they are, not what you aren’t.

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feminine energy

Masculine energy

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bir8lrugxO8/

Complimentary

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXYR4USgPOC/

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I might go to that Krauser PUA thing in London and report back.

Please do that thing.

Might be a fun afternoon and for £30 you just know it’s gonna be class!

Might even be some girls outside protesting, if so they should be entertaining to game.

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@ Excartoonist Thanks for your reply. Your honesty is refreshing. “But another part says this is defeatist—that women have more to offer a man than sex. But I’m struggling with the question: What exactly?” Simply put, women have a proper use. Men are to use them in certain ways to fulfill actual creative consequential needs. There’s really rno way around it. When women are not used correctly or neglected problems arise for men and women. Think of a woman as a socketwrench. You could, but shouldn’t pound nails with it. Not using the wrench at all gets nothing done. Sex,… Read more »

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Seeing as I was mentioned above, I want to make it clear I am not critical of Rollo. I still hold the man and his work in very high regard.

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It’s trite to ask, but do you even lift? Your writing looks very low energy, and that means low T.

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I didn’t realize that Rucker is black. I like this song. Nice voice–tone, dynamics, and control.

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I like the video. It’s almost got me feeling all nostalgic and shit, although his capo is anachronistic. A little detail only old guitar players would notice, but there it is.

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“I didn’t realize that Rucker is black”

Me neither.

Who’d a thunk black people are musical?

Weird.

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What I find as I pay more attention is that game never really left the public sphere, but its existence or even acknowledgement of its existence has been labelled (misogynist/sexist/take-your-pick). This labelling and the subsequent affect it has on young men to me constitutes the bulk of the weapons in “gender war” that is being waged. As a for instance, I’ve been tagging along with one of the true old-timer legends in my industry for the last year or so, trying to absorb as much as I can before he retires. Thankfully he loves travelling so it’s definitely been interesting.… Read more »

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“He charms women almost constantly in his day-to-day life, not because he’s trying to bang, but because he’s learned this behavior back when it wasn’t labelled as verboten knowledge . . .”

That ain’t burden. That’s the way to do it.

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Understanding gender dynamics makes you smarter about marriage and to acknowledge the risks of marriage. Men always take risks and with knowledge excess risk can be mitigated.

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[Nick and Tom Torerro used to be really tight, now they call each other ‘fakes’. I dunno why. I’ve been on Tom’s podcast in the past, even spoke with him privately on the phone, now I’m a fraud to him for some reason. Again, I dunno. The PUA-sphere is very competitive.] 1) Nick and Tom do not call each other frauds. They both say to this day that the other has legit skills. To this day Nick says Tom has real pickup skills it’s just that Nick despises Tom for how he treated Nick during their business partnership. Tom also… Read more »

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Blaximus

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Dexter: “To this day Nick says Tom has real pickup skills it’s just that Nick despises Tom for how he treated Nick during their business partnership”

Its more than that, but Dexter is close enough here to a TL:DR of my position.

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“The PUA-sphere is very competitive.”

The PUA-sphere has no skin in the game of outcomes, only playing to the weaknesses of its customers for their own profit.

The PUA-sphere competes against how fast a certain churning demographic will wise up and move on from an overworked, saturated, snake-oil industry.

The PUA-sphere teaches something akin to “Learn 40 guitar song with these simple 4 cords!” Anyone with an ear knows busking that shit just doesn’t sound right.

Dexter Daygame. A name as unoriginal as his comment, his argument, his work ethic.

Anytime you feel man enough you come on back with some friends, Poindexter.

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Hey @J,

They going in on your boy.

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“The hardcore MGTOWs have a global hatred of all things PUA to the point that anything that smells like deference to women makes you a “pussy beggar“” ? I’m an hardcore MGTOW and I think that the typical path of an hardcore MGTOW is either: PUA at 20 Married at 30 Separating at 40 MGTOW since the day after the separation OR PUA at 20, 30 then, when he become tired of women…and GYOW A man can’t be a real hardcore MGTOW without having tried enough women, and without knowing how women works. “The global hatred of all things PUA”… Read more »

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@Blax

lol I ain’t defending anybody.

I agree with everything in the comments section of krausers blog post. From the attacks on Rollo’s associates (not the first time someone has written a post about them https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/a0ph2s/the_monetization_of_the_manosphere/), to going after Blackdragon for rationalizing paying for sex, even going after @Sentient’s boy, James Marshall’s company, The Natural Lifestyles:

“Their real business model is to scam chodes into covering their hooker bill. They don’t use game to get laid. They use the pretence of teaching game (which they don’t have) to generate revenue to pay for the girls they hire for sex”

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The thing I have always found funny about ” organized ” pua stuff, is the level of judgementalism and back-biting behaviors. This is as an outsider looking in, and as a man that hasn’t felt any need to gather in groups of males to talk about how to meet, know, and have sex with women. So I’ve just hung back and observed how men react in groups over time – pua material aside – and how they tend to try and attack one another from time to time, and the subjects they tend to use in said attacks. Shit’s fascinating… Read more »

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Thanks, Blax, I needed something to make me fall asleep. wink

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Amen, brothers! Rollo is on fire. I recently YouTube’d “The Red Pill Lens – Politics” with many of the same speakers mentioned for the Patriarch convention. INCREDIBLE! Very profound talk (really, really liked Elliott Hulse). Three thoughts: 1) Fatherhood is the future of Red Pill (everything else is academic unless your genes live on); 2) Patriarchy is synonymous with recorded history because matriarchies were simply obliterated by patriarchal societies; and 3) yes, there are lots of thirty betas, but there are also LOTS women thirsty for positively masculine men. P.S. – Perhaps the 21 convention should consider Hungary as well?… Read more »

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Nightmare Feul as your band name, huh?

Ok…

Mine?

Toxic Megacolon

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My colon proved not to be toxic, with my screening colonoscopy this past week. With this latest post by Rollo, what I want to see happen is that a forum is devised with private messaging. I foresee guys connecting de novo in their hometowns with each other in a red pill tribe way. I personally don’t need any more friends, as I’ve got enough, but I think others would benefit by collaborative affiliation with other guys. I think it would be good to have one of the content providers in The Red Man Group organize a way for boots on… Read more »

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Today’s hypergamous musical selection:

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Best episode yet

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Fair and balanced. A tale of two Times.

Headline – The a pleasure Priciple.

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/fashion/15commune.html

V.

Headline – The Men are the Monsters

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/23/us/robert-kraft-trafficking-florida.html

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Surely the best advice for guys in dysfunctional marriages is to just get divorced?

Unless there are young children involved, why even try and “turn the ship around” at all?

Your time would be better spent investing in new women.

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If a man invests in New women with the same mindset and beliefs that he held in marriage, he will more than likely wind up with very similar results.

Becoming red pill aware and embracing masculinity provides the potential to turn around a failing blue pilled union in many cases ( but not all of course ). Most married men happen to actually love their wives, but cannot continue along the thorn filled blue path.

It’s not about them, it’s about you. Always. Remaining blue pilled delusional cannot be resolved by incorporating ” new women “.

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@Rollo

Can you see if a comment I just made with four links to The Reconstruction series got eaten by moderation?

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Assuming you are Red Pill aware, I still think it makes more sense to divorce.

Why try and win back “the one”? The One doesn’t exist. Your wife isn’t special.

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Assuming you are Red Pill aware, I still think it makes more sense to divorce.

Children are a factor. Divorce generally has bad effects.

Some religious men do not have the option of divorce except under limited circumstances.

Why try and win back “the one”? The One doesn’t exist. Your wife isn’t special.

Strawman fallacy.
Either argue better or troll harder.

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Oh, the kick-off to the Oscars. I’m know my place and i’m not going to sell myself short. Red Pill celebritory-wise. We are the champions, my friends And we’ll keep on fighting ’til the end We are the champions We are the champions No time for losers ‘Cause we are the champions of the world We are the champions, my friends And we’ll keep on fighting ’til the end We are the champions We are the champions No time for losers ‘Cause we are the champions… Back in the day we used to take Queen as is it came at… Read more »

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@AR

My argument is perfectly sound, it is always better to invest in a new woman than go digging through the garbage

Interesting points about why you would stay though, I can see how children or religion would be a factor and I can understand that.

Just have to be careful guys don’t use the kids as an excuse to maintain blue pill ideals with a Quality Woman(tm)

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Diesel My argument is perfectly sound, it is always better to invest in a new woman than go digging through the garbage That was your argument. It was not your fallacy. Note that Rollo said the same thing years ago, only more concisely. Interesting points about why you would stay though, I can see how children or religion would be a factor and I can understand that. Red Pill is praxis. Churchgoing men exist in a sea of feminist junk just like the rest of us, but have chosen self-restrictions. That doesn’t prevent them from seeing clearly though. Just have… Read more »

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My argument is perfectly sound, it is always better to invest in a new woman than go digging through the garbage

All women are garbage–untrained women, that is. So men need to develop training skills. Parents do some training, but a man needs to train a woman to be the way that he wants her to be. A man who knows how to train a woman will have high value to her. Vetting will only take you so far…

Lessons from The Taming of the Shrew.

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Okay, let’s bottom line this shit for the sake of brevity. 1) If a man married a ” garbage woman ” in the first place, that’s on him and him alone. That man, for whatever reason, has poor vetting skills. I’d wager that the bulk of marriage don’t end because ” woman garbage “. Buffer in the 1st degree. 2) A man with ” blue pill ideals ” will have a tough go of it with women. It’s not The Women. So bailing on your blue pill marriage immediately is like junking your cars because you never performed basic maintenance… Read more »

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😁

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Asd, the idea that all women are garbage untrained women is positively ludicrous on it’s face.

It’s true that a man just do a measure of training, but he also must be able to realize when he lacks the skillset to train the individual women he has chosen and cut his loses before ever considering waltzing down the aisle .

It’s not about undertaking some kind of monumental task. Most men won’t ever have that kind of resolve or stamina.

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@Diesel,is either a divorce lawyer or a 21 shill. Irresponsible men are always trying to give irresponsible advice to their superiors in the crab barrel. LOL,”you could just change her out for a different one”,is blue pill to the bone.

For the sake of discussion,IDGAF who sees me rooting through the garbage,there’s stuff to eat in there after all. I have to learn how to deal with this one before I can deal with the next or even add a few more women to the spin. Advice on marriage LOL.

wahoo Mcdaniels
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I Like @Blax’s car analogy. Mainly because it is the man maintaining the car,not the car maintaining the man. As in don’t marry your mother,yet stick with a model that you can figure out how to maintain.

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If you see somebody with the hood up at the filling station it is no big deal they may be a pro driver. When you see it up on the side of the road with a bunch of monkeys gathered around like they are trying to figure out how to fuck a water buffalo,avoid that cluster fuck till you see the money.

If a guy tells you to abandon the vehicle he may be your friend or maybe a opportunist, I would rule out opportunist first, before assuming friendship.

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It’s true that a man just do a measure of training, but he also must be able to realize when he lacks the skillset

Early relationships should be used to build the skillset. I knew this back when I was 21 y.o. and was in my first relationship.

A feral woman is like a feral house (such as a repo). A fixer upper. In both cases you need a skillset to fix it up.

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“Early relationships should be used to build the skillset. I knew this back when I was 21 y.o. and was in my first relationship.”

Old timey man,these days men are getting such a late start they need to go to trade school.

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“Early relationships should be used to build the skillset. I knew this back when I was 21 y.o. and was in my first relationship.”

Don’t you have to change some diapers?

Check yourself before you wreck yourself…

You’ve had what two relationships? Come on now.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself…

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“Early relationships should be used to build the skillset.”

Some more pearls…

Feet should be used to build the walking skillset.

Food should be used to build the eating skillset.

C’mon man.

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Lol.

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” garbage woman ”

I believe that was the same phraseology Jesus used at the stoning.

No wait. It was the opposite.

Take a good hard look at yourself, ASD.

Who made you arbiter of human value anyways?

Musing about people as garbage reflects more on your lack of relationship “skill set”. Good Lord. How shallow, how vapid.

Only you could write “skill set” unironically, btw.

Peel the onion.to think outside the box because at the end of the day living on the bleeding edge offers new paradigms of humans being beyond humans doing.

Other trite life coach phrases available on request.

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I believe that was the same phraseology Jesus used at the stoning.

No wait. It was the opposite.

Take a good hard look at yourself, ASD.

Lol, EI, you need to look at the big picture. As in, click on “Read more.” I was quoting someone else.

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ASD

“All women are garbage–untrained women, that is.”

What else is there to read?

I disagree with the basis of your premise, believe it countrrprocounter and will let it rise or fall on it’s own merits.

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@Sentient You’ve had what two relationships? Yep. I don’t consider my fling a relationship since it lasted five days. Nor do I count dates as relationships. My first gf and I made out for an hour every day for eight months. Lots of romance and feewings. She paid my way on dates, generally. My gf had a car and gas money, so she usually drove. My first gf was my set of training wheels. But I didn’t build my total skillset based on my relationship with her. I did learn a bit about women’s sexual psychology and I learned a… Read more »

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ASD

And I still don’t see much in your writings that shows that you understand the necessity of training women or how to train women.

I see no evidence of your training any women… In the way that you think of it anyway.

Tell us about what you did with the baby today, for example…

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@EI

I was using Diesel’s term “garbage” in my reply to him.

In the beginning of The Taming of the Shrew, was Katerina suitable for a relationship? If not, then she was worthless as is in terms of being relationship material–we call worthless things “garbage.”

You’re a smart guy–this should be obvious to you.

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@Sentient

Mrs. Gamer has admitted that she needs to stop badmouthing SIL. And she cut herself off from doing so and hasn’t done it since.

I can’t remember the last time that Mrs. Gamer hit me with an emotional ambush.

Training.

I will contact SIL to see about getting together. Maybe we’ll do a class at Home Depot. Maybe take a course on plumbing at a trade school together.

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My first gf and I made out for an hour every day for eight months….”

If I made out with any chick more than 20-30 minutes, we fuckin’.

8 months?

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“8 months?”
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” If not, then she was worthless as is in terms of being relationship material–we call worthless things “garbage.”

This is sophistry and deviod of spirit.

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……and that comment has zero to do with religion.

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Follow been rapping about the gender war more than usual.

Women intuitively understand they are one shit test away from this:
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Yeah, I was pretty silly–was in my boy scout mode…FI was pushing hard…she wanted to fuck, lol…

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Go pick a beef with Diesel who used the term and quit picking a fight with me, douchebag.

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“8 months”

Yeah, we hold the World’s Record for The Longest Makeout Ever.

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Blax, most of the time I was making out in the hallway of the girl’s dorm at a church college–no coed rooms and men weren’t allowed in girls’ rooms and vice versa. Vice Squad gets a call if you fuck there. One time we were hot and heavy on my family’s sofa and my mom announced her presence from the stairs as a warning. The car was a possibility, of course. There were logistical issues most of the time. I could have worked around them and the girl wanted me to. Empty classrooms at night, etc. Of course, getting busted… Read more »

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” Yeah, I was pretty silly–was in my boy scout mode…FI was pushing hard…she wanted to fuck, lol…” When I was around chicks I didn’t particularly want to fuck, I never considered making out with them for an hour for 8 months. I’m having a real hard time understanding this. I was once a cub scout for a minute, but never a Boy Scout, so maybe they teach guys to make out or something. Was there a badge for that? Tell me more asd. I’m willing to learn something new every day. Why would you bother to make out with… Read more »

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logistics do matter for somebody you just met and don’t really know. But chicks I saw almost every day for years? I’d find someplace to bang them. Lol. It’s a big world out there. I can’t count how many chicks I’ve banged in all kinds of parks, beaches, hell – even parking structures. I couldn’t wait until I got my own place, or at least was old enough to get hotel rooms. The first time a banged my 1st wife was inside a car. Then outside the car. Then on the hood of the car….etc. Even after we were married… Read more »

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“There is no evidence that Congress actually gauged whether women would be disproportionately unable to serve in combat, as compared with men, when excluding them from the draft. ” Oh really? Well they say so…nothin to see here….now back to my 64 oz. slurpee. More seriously, this is how it works: Speech evolution: Grammar yields logic yields rhetoric. Grammar cannot describe accurate logic or rhetoric but accurate rhetoric and logic require accurately descriptive grammar. Men and women are forcibly gendered first and desexualized of their personhood. Gender is arbitrary, sex is not. Now men can be feminine almost-women and women… Read more »

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Douchebag? You getting sweet on me?

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” . . . we get reports claiming zero evidence of women being less capable….”

Now they can even write their names in the snow:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/21/transgenderism-a-mans-penis-can-be-a-female-penis/

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Cardinal Pell Guilty!

Yet another in a long line of Christian / Catholic Monsters…from the Flood to the Inquisition to Today…all Sons of the Greatest Monster of them All…The God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob!

Nearing its end
Christianity lurches
Unable to maintain
The lies of the churches

As I reveal
The unholy con
I lift up My Cup
And adore Babylon!

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Tiger says: All women are garbage–untrained women, that is. So men need to develop training skills. Parents do some training, but a man needs to train a woman to be the way that he wants her to be. > What have you; slept through the last 50 years? As a male; you should take great solace in the fact that you are still permitted some free physical movement and fully codified mancipium has not yet taken hold for the de facto Slave Gender. Enjoy what little liberty you still have; it is far later in the game than your breed… Read more »

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Blax

There is nothing to learn in ASD’s retelling. It’s end of life post hoc retellings of what might have been.

Move along… Shaking the head all the way.

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It’s end of life post hoc retellings of what might have been.

Lol. @ Sentient, and that’s precisely what I never wanted for myself in the later years. I never planned on being the age I am now, and I can see that was a good thing in many respects.

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Christianity…The Greatest Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing that ever existed…a “religion” so corrupt…so malevolent..so overtly evil…DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR SO MUCH HORROR FOR SO MANY CENTURIES…that it makes Adolph or the Mafia look like a bunch of subway pickpockets. The greatest religion of hate that ever existed…murderous, malignant, avaricious beyond all human comprehension, power-mad…insane with bloodlust….responsible for the death of millions…genocidal mania incarnate. And yet, ask the average American about this unspeakably evil “faith”; and they will tell you it is one of the “Great Religions”. Why? Because you are all under an Unbelievably Powerful Mindwipe that makes you excuse, ignore or… Read more »

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25 Feb 2019: “Florida man arrested for allegedly throwing cookie at girlfriend” ///

Yes; you males have free reign to “train” women into whatever you wish to mold us into…lol.

Remember; you are one phone call away from a prison cell WHENEVER WE WANT TO RE-LOCATE YOU TO ONE.

REMEMBER THAT BOYS!

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Lol, @Blax. I always planned on being the age I am now, and I can see that was a good thing in many respects. EhIntellect and I have had a lot of back and forth debate about living life by being bold and making mistakes first, making up for it and then dusting off and moving on with more experience (him) vs. not fucking up first and foremost, moving forward and pushing for more and more (me). It turns out, being brought more towards the functional median on a bell curve is a good thing. Being able to have other… Read more »

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“Girls, play with them …….. and …. play with them” – Rollo Tomassi

LOL

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When you are a younger man, I believe it’s imperative to live life with a sense of urgency. Get as much shit accomplished as possible and keep adding to your personal list. Slow comfort in life is way overrated. Last weekend, another old acquaintance took that long dirt nap. his daughter is one of my gang of granddaughters. I stepped in for him in his absence over 18 years ago. My wife was notified that he died in a hail of gunfire downtown in a known drug area. My response seemed cruel, but it was heartfelt and succinct – ”… Read more »

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A couple ideas: Rollo has been pointing out what gender war looks like. How to win a war: 1) Recognize you are in a war. 2) Recognize the enemy. 3) Recognize your strengths and weaknesses. 4) Recognize the enemy strengths and weaknesses. 5) Act upon those above realities as best as possible. A gender war is not a battle of the sexes. The sexes are two camps begging covertly for an alliance. But something is getting in the way. We an’t get past step two. We’ve adopted the gender war ROE set by neither in the fight. Rollo uses the… Read more »

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I was thinking more along the lines of not being at the Black Swan functional tails on a spectrum, either far right or far left of the median. Of course no one should shoot for being medium, rather than exceptional. Having robustness against being zeroed out. Nassim Taleb’s Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable treatise: A central idea in Taleb’s book is not to attempt to predict Black Swan events, but to build robustness to negative events and an ability to exploit positive events. Taleb contends that banks and trading firms are vulnerable to hazardous Black Swan events… Read more »

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😂😂😂

No shade intended, but a lot of these authors writing shit about behaviors and the like sound crazy as fuck sometimes.

” people shiver more in the cold than they do when ambient temperatures are closed to body temperatures… ”

😂 stfu.

Wanna know human nature? Proclivities?

Watch and interact with humans.

Brilliant!!!!!!

You cannot read your way into any kind of true understanding. You’ll just fine yourself consistently misreading people and circumstances.

/rant over and out.

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Blax, Recall your personal laundry list accomplishments re: j provocation that he’s as good as you for his age. Those accomplishments you value. You wrote them to justify your past. Those accomplishments aren’t nothing but they aren’t you unless you make them so. When you do, and write such, it’s a pedestalization of stuff. Your MPoO is elsewhere. Interacting with others is good only insofar as y’all are dealing with accuracy. Gaming the system often entails finding the exploiting glitch weaknesses/buffers/fears/inaccuracies in others. It goes both ways. Reinforcing others weaknesses for one’s gain is playing not to lose. Blax, you… Read more »

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Reading the observations of others can be a jump start to your own observations. The trick is to not trust until verified, but knowing what you are looking for can save a lot of time, trial and error, some of which might prove unnecessarily fatal.

The paradox of this though is that reading is of the most benefit to those who need it the least, those most capable of discerning observation.

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@EI

Women intuitively understand they are one shit test away from this:
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shit test… PASSED!!!!

lol…

there’s probably a video of them doing it in the car later somewhere on the interwebs…lol

good luck!

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Blaximus wrote: “Get as much shit accomplished as possible and keep adding to your personal list. Slow comfort in life is way overrated.” AND “No shade intended, but a lot of these authors writing shit about behaviors and the like sound crazy as fuck sometimes. ” people shiver more in the cold than they do when ambient temperatures are closed to body temperatures… ” stfu. Wanna know human nature? Proclivities? Watch and interact with humans. Brilliant!!!!!! You cannot read your way into any kind of true understanding. You’ll just fine yourself consistently misreading people and circumstances.” > Hell has clearly… Read more »

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“there’s probably a video of them doing it in the car later somewhere on the interwebs…lol”

He didn’t even need to observe the intermediate ritual of tripping her up. Just advance directly to Go

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