The 21 Convention – Patriarch’s Edition

If you’re a father can you still be ‘Red Pilled’? Does being married automatically define you as a Beta, because what Red Pill aware male would willingly signup for the raw deal that marriage represents to men? Especially when he should know better by glean of that Red Pill awareness, right?

A lot of critics think this is some new question, but we’ve been discussing this and other classic debate topics among my blog’s commentariat for a long time now. And even before my blog existed these same debates were hashed out on the SoSuave forums as far back as 2002. Every so often I’ll have a noob criticize me for something he believes I haven’t thought of, but I’ve been writing what I do since 2001-02.

There are many issues that resurface in cycles in what’s now the Red Pill / Manosphere. I constantly see the same snarky questions pop up in Tweets or forums from guys new to the ‘sphere. I can’t really pick on any one faction of the ‘sphere for this cycle of criticism. The hardcore MGTOWs have a global hatred of all things PUA to the point that anything that smells like deference to women makes you a “pussy beggar“. And, of course, it must be because someone is making a buck off of the naiveté of hapless Blue Pill chumps whenever someone dares to suggest a guy might actually want to involve himself with women.

On the other side is the all-or-nothing PUA camp (a scene that’s been contracting more than most critics want to admit) for which Game-Is-All, but likewise getting married makes little sense. Marriage and family only ever become an issue once the ‘player‘ progresses to the point that his ability to ‘swoop hot girls’ is superseded by his want to make his unresolved Blue Pill ideals come true. Still, marriage is an end to the novelty of new women. Besides, marriage is a fool’s decision today. This is an odd point of agreement among the two camps.

Furthermore, this is only the criticism of marriage and family in the modern era. There’re always the predictable, cyclic, waves of ignorance about many Red Pill tenets. Some are so predictable Roissy wrote a post about them in 2010 – The Unbearable Triteness of Hating. Have a look at how many of these resurface periodically in the Manosphere.

A lot of this ignorance is founded in the process of unplugging. A guy new to Red Pill awareness often struggles with the conflict of his Red Pill understanding and reconciling it with his old Blue Pill ego-investments. They’re not stupid. On the contrary, it’s their intelligence that makes them doubt things, but they are simply ignorant of the work that’s come before them in the Manosphere. They understand just enough about what aligns with their own belief set and reject anything that challenges them to drop an internalized ego-investment about women, intersexual dynamics, and what they believe men’s role should be in it.

The 21 Convention – Patriarch’s Edition

On May 3-5, 2019 I will be speaking at the 21 Convention – Patriarch’s Edition conference in Orlando, Florida.

This will be a unique event in the Manosphere; one that focuses on applying Red Pill awareness to issues of marriage and family. I wrote Positive Masculinity to address the questions I was getting from Red Pill fathers asking me for advice on how to go about being a Red Pill parent. This continues to be one of my most asked for advice topics. This convention’s purpose is intended to serve men in marriages, divorced men, fathers who want to ensure their sons (and daughters) are prepared to resist a Blue Pill world intent on his servitude.

This event is designed for the Red Pill father, the husband, the man coping with being Zeroed Out and young men who plan to be future fathers. This conference is for the man “awakened while married“, the man trying to turn the ship around in his marriage.

It’s not only for the married man though. It’s also for the divorced man whose unplugging occurred as a result of his divorce. It’s for the guy who wants to pass on his Red Pill wisdom to his kids in spite of the World Village aligned against him. It’s for the middle age man trying to figure it all out when he’s thrust into the modern sexual marketplace.

It’s for men with questions. What ended his marriage? How did he come to it? Was any of it worth it? How does he go on with his life after his wife detonated the marriage and he’s become Red Pill aware?

And it is for the man who sees a need to return conventional masculinity to its evolved, natural place in society and his own life. There are far too many Purple Pill ‘men’s organizations’ ostensibly promoting a  positive masculinity that only amounts to apologetics for toxic masculinity and a “we promise to do better” message that carries water for a gynocentric social order. We don’t apologize for being men. We wont beg permission to express the aspects of a conventional masculinity; even the aspects that conflict with the Feminine Imperative.

A Convention for Men

This is the Patriarch’s Edition of the 21 Convention. There’s a reason it was named this – it’s intentionally triggering to the mindset that despises anything masculine. It’s meant as an affront to organizations and individuals who think masculinity is ridiculous or evil, or something to be apologized for. It’s intended to be offensive to the Village.

Patriarch is a title that doesn’t just imply responsibility, but also a deserved respect and authority in being a man. And that masculine authority is sometimes rightly disrespectful to a feminine-primary sensibility. We reject the idea that masculinity is some nebulous, subjective definition of what makes a man a Man. We reject the idea that conventional masculinity is something obscure, ridiculous, “toxic” or inherently evil. And we reject the effeminate redefining of masculinity, often by oblivious men themselves, to better serve a Feminine Imperative.

That said, the reason I prefaced this announcement with the above discussion is because I’m getting some mixed response about whether or not “Red Pill” ought to extend beyond the context of Game (from the PUA side) or simply abstaining from marriage and potentially family altogether (the MGTOW side). Both of these perspectives need to understand that this convention is not intended to promote marriage as some idealistic goal for men. On the contrary, it’s about informing men of the very real dangers marriage poses to men. It’s also designed to promote conventional masculinity as a much needed solution to the endemic social ills created by an unquestioned female-supremacism that resulted from 50+ years of Fempowerment.

If you’re one of the men I’ve described above this is your conference. When this convention was first announced I had a lot of confused men asking me what it’s all about. Is this a good convention for me and my son? Is this for fathers, divorced men, men awakened while married? This convention is for all of these men and more.

I will be one of many invited speakers, including Elliott Hulse, at this event. Rather than give you an extensive list of the speakers (which often gets added to after I post announcements like this) I’ll just encourage you to check out the official 21 Convention site. Please use my links in this announcement if you plan to attend this in May. These are my affiliate links and the only way I get credit for the registration you purchase.

The topic of my speech will center on the importance of Red Pill mentorship among men, among families and among parents/mentors in a coming decade that will be defined by the Gender War we’re finding ourselves in. Furthermore, I’ll be doing some workshop groups with men who have specific questions about their own situations and give you some one on one Red Pill counseling. I’m not the only speaker who’ll be doing this, so please have a look at the official schedule on the 21 Convention site.

Finally, I want to also announce that I’ll be speaking at the upcoming 21 Convention in Poland this July as well as the main convention in Orlando, Florida in October again. No dates are set for these as yet, but the wheels are in motion and the announcements will be forthcoming as they get confirmed.

So, is this something you’d be interested in? The Red Man Group has also launched a Patriarch’s Edition of the panel discussion show this January. It’s a bi-weekly show that centers on many of the topics we’ll be covering at this event. This show is headed up by 21 Convention speaker Hunter Drew and it goes live every other Thursday evening at 8:30pm EST.

It’s always been my belief that Red Pill awareness, a rational, critical, sometimes harsh understanding of intersexual dynamics is not just something limited to picking up chicks or avoiding marriage. It’s an understanding of much broader ideas and how they related to varied aspects of our lives as single men, married men, fathers, mentors, influencers and leaders in our own way.

This event is something of an experiment to see how deep the rabbit hole goes with respect to what the Red Pill entails. What is most important to me is that events like this – and especially the shows I involve myself in – stay on Red Pill message. If you watched my State of the Manosphere Address video this was my primary concern going forward. It’s far too easy to dilute the message when so many voices want to be added to it. The Red Pill as a loose brand has already been appropriated by organizations that have no real understanding of it, but they recognize the reach it has for their own ‘brand of me’.

I want to avoid this dilution with everything I do.

So, if this convention is what you’ve finally been waiting for, understand that as far as I’m concerned you will only get the unvarnished, Red Pill ass kicking most men are in need of. I’m my own worst critic. There will never be an event I attend where I’ll sugarcoat the truth for men. There will never be a pep rally or a woo woo metaphysical appeal to what I offer. There will only ever be a nuts & bolts practical assessment of intersexual dynamics. That is the substance I promise you’ll get.

Click the banner for info and registration.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

107 comments on “The 21 Convention – Patriarch’s Edition

  1. Question for the RM Commentariat. Is a concerted Neo-Patriarchism actually feasible in this day and age? Or have we passed a point-of-no-return? If we have, what is to be done?

  2. “We don’t apologize for being men. We wont beg permission to express the aspects of a conventional masculinity; even the aspects that conflict with the Feminine Imperative.”

  3. I particularly liked the following phrase:

    So, if this convention is what you’ve finally been waiting for, understand that as far as I’m concerned you will only get the unvarnished, Red Pill ass kicking most men are in need of.

    If you’re taking marital vows, you’re entering the shark tank, so you had better be prepared. Also, it’s better for men to abstain from vows of exclusivity when marrying. Write your own vows. I wish that I had known this when I married.

  4. “Is a concerted Neo-Patriarchism actually feasible in this day and age?”

    There was a 400 year Dark Age between the “Women’s Lib” archaic Athens and the “Iron Fist” patriarchy of classical Athens. And the patriarchs of the classical world are generally held to be a different people from the archaic “libbers.”

    More or less rinse and repeat for Rome. It’s not a repetition, but it does rhyme.

    My own guestimation based on the history of previous cultures and having a look around this one is that we are not past the point of no return of the possible, but past the point of no return of the feasible, because what must be done will not be. We will need to become (or be replaced by) a much harder people first.

    ” . . . what is to be done?”

    Keep your ass covered and your powder dry.

  5. Check out this comment by Nick Krauser on his blog about your association with the 21 convention and Red Man Group. Both Krauser and his readers agree that you produce good content on inter gender dynamics but the men you promote and associate with are frauds and scamming bullshitters who give terrible advice.

    His comments section is open to you if you want to defend yourself.

    https://krauserpua.com/2019/02/15/players-path-london-seminar-on-march-2nd/#comment-121880

    [From what? Krauser and me have always been good. He just doubts the guy’s I’ve associated with. That’s his prerogative, and in some instances he’s right to do so. The thing about the PUA-sphere is that it’s always cutthroat. It’s a lot like MGTOW in that respect. Nick and Tom Torerro used to be really tight, now they call each other ‘fakes’. I dunno why. I’ve been on Tom’s podcast in the past, even spoke with him privately on the phone, now I’m a fraud to him for some reason. Again, I dunno. The PUA-sphere is very competitive.]

  6. @DraculaPUA
    “Check out this comment by Nick Krauser on his blog about your association with the 21 convention and Red Man Group. Both Krauser and his readers agree that you produce good content on inter gender dynamics but the men you promote and associate with are frauds and scamming bullshitters who give terrible advice.”

    @DraculaPUA

    There will always be snake oil salesmen out there, in every industry. Only listening and discussing with Rollo may be worth the investment for many men who are thinking seriously to start a marriage or who have been zeroed out. Anybody who has read Rollo and applied his knowledge knows that his material is not snake oil.

    Anyway, you have to focus on what return on investment are you getting out of the fee that you pay for any seminar, if it’s positive, go on, if it’s not, continue your journey.

  7. @OldYoonis

    “Is a concerted Neo-Patriarchism actually feasible in this day and age?”

    Yes, nature is in our side.

    “Or have we passed a point-of-no-return?”

    That point of no return is in your head. What men can create, men can destroy.

    “If we have, what is to be done”

    Concern with your own situation and apply patriarchy in your surroundings. Women are thirsty of men who can put them in their place. All this is just a giant shit test to separate the weaklings from the cremé de la cremé, it is just nature working. If you are the strongest personality around your women and children, they will follow you. If you are not, well…..

  8. One of the things I notice about reading Rollo’s blog posts is how much I enjoy exploring the subject of women and Hypergamy and the Gender War. I love reading about it, writing about it and talking about it. It’s a fascinating subject. Way more fascinating, it seems, than actually spending time with women.

    It’s been two years since I broke up with my last girlfriend and I don’t miss being in a relationship one bit. I look at couples holding hands and feel no envy whatsoever. This is a huge change—I used to feel habitually lonely and miserable. But this last couple of years, I’ve worked on my freelance business, written two novels, taking a course in stand-up comedy and performed live, taken private tango lessons. I suppose I could ‘go clubbing’ or ‘sarging’ like I did in my younger days, but honestly … it feels like a chore.

    Assuming sex is taken care of, what am I missing?

  9. ” . . . what is to be done?”

    Like anything, you want options, but you have to figure out which options will be important and which will be critical and which will be rare. Form a tribe that will cover skillset options that you lack and need. Build a library that will be useful in the future. There may still be high tech, but not a lot of food, so basic gardening books might be important. Machinists will probably be very important. Everybody and his brother will probably have a still, so being able to make stills and the materials to build stills will likely be important. Ditto with blacksmithing. Farming with animals might have a resurgence.

  10. ” . . . basic gardening books might be important.”

    Bearing in mind that if you need the information in gardening books and survival manuals to survive, it is far too late to start reading books.

    Also bearing in mind that a garden will give you survival advantage, but will not support you. You’ll need a proper small and diversified farm for that, with animals.

    And also bearing in mind that you will have to plan for surviving the extremes, not the average. Drought in the summer, freezing in the winter, etc.

  11. ExCartoonist

    ” I suppose I could ‘go clubbing’ or ‘sarging’ like I did in my younger days, but honestly … it feels like a chore.

    Assuming sex is taken care of, what am I missing?”

    Are you getting a steady stream of sex, however you define steady?

    You need sex. Just asking.

  12. @ EhIntellect

    The lack of sex bothers me, yes. Part of me is considering paying for it.

    But another part says this is defeatist—that women have more to offer a man than sex. But I’m struggling with the question: What exactly?

  13. Cartoonist

    that women have more to offer a man than sex. But I’m struggling with the question: What exactly?

    What they have, at least the younger ones [could be chronological or outlook], is feminine energy. You need that to fully appreciate your masculine energy. This isn’t some eastern thing… It’s just like a cock needs a pussy. It fits.

    Always fun to be with some silly younger thing. Appreciate them for what they are, not what you aren’t.

  14. Palmasailor
    I might go to that Krauser PUA thing in London and report back.

    Please do that thing.

    Might be a fun afternoon and for £30 you just know it’s gonna be class!

    Might even be some girls outside protesting, if so they should be entertaining to game.

  15. @ Excartoonist

    Thanks for your reply. Your honesty is refreshing.

    “But another part says this is defeatist—that women have more to offer a man than sex. But I’m struggling with the question: What exactly?”

    Simply put, women have a proper use. Men are to use them in certain ways to fulfill actual creative consequential needs. There’s really rno way around it.

    When women are not used correctly or neglected problems arise for men and women.

    Think of a woman as a socketwrench. You could, but shouldn’t pound nails with it. Not using the wrench at all gets nothing done.

    Sex, food, stuff, money, status, intellect, beauty, fame and glory all have their use. Use them incorrectly in overuse, underuse or misuse, by definition, is abuse and doesn’t serve the user well.

    Don’t use them at all and you perish from slothful neglect of your surroundings.

    Using women solely for a warm, moist
    place to orgasm is neglecting onesself at root. It satisfies the short term natural drive though sex alone won’t carry a man’s ego perpetually, though dudes sure as shit try. It’ll take continual buffering to maintain the fiction that a guy matters based on n count.

    Not using women at all for whatever reason is neglecting yourself. Again it’ll take buffers to justify your neglect by overvaluing your accomplishments elsewhere calling it good…but something’s missing.

    This isn’t about sex, btw. Sex is a condition of something more critical in your life. It’s about being your best self and women serve a purpose in that.

    A little secret too: Women really do like you and are lonely, miss that best version of you, and wait for you to get back in the game.

    As they wait, they feel neglected, underused and then they too fill their lives with overvalued distractions calling it good…but something’s missing.

    And round and round and round.

    Nice talking to you. Thank you again.

  16. @Cartoonist

    It’s trite to ask, but do you even lift? Your writing looks very low energy, and that means low T.

  17. I like the video. It’s almost got me feeling all nostalgic and shit, although his capo is anachronistic. A little detail only old guitar players would notice, but there it is.

  18. What I find as I pay more attention is that game never really left the public sphere, but its existence or even acknowledgement of its existence has been labelled (misogynist/sexist/take-your-pick). This labelling and the subsequent affect it has on young men to me constitutes the bulk of the weapons in “gender war” that is being waged.

    As a for instance, I’ve been tagging along with one of the true old-timer legends in my industry for the last year or so, trying to absorb as much as I can before he retires. Thankfully he loves travelling so it’s definitely been interesting. The man has a PhD, he’s been around quite a bit, and he’s got a great general appreciation for everything life can offer. He’s also on the liberal side of things, not that it really matters much in this sphere of things. We disagree, but we talk. He’s not insane and dogmatically cultish on these topics like so many seem to be these days. What is most striking to me, is that even at his age (mid to late 60s), he still ‘practices’ on women. He charms women almost constantly in his day-to-day life, not because he’s trying to bang, but because he’s learned this behavior back when it wasn’t labelled as verboten knowledge and it had significant advantages so he keeps using it. He’s actually pretty good and I’m certain that in his younger days he was as good as anyone here. I could never have a conversation with him on these topics like people have it here, because he’s somewhat blue-pill subscribed (he’s quite strictly pro-choice, for instance)… but nonetheless he practices game as a matter of his day-to-day existence. I’m essentially convinced at this point that these behaviors never actually left, and possibly never really were in danger of going extinct, but that even the labelling of them and the teaching to young boys that practicing this is “evil” in any fashion is the true social evil that is being targeted at men.

    I think it’s the societal denigrating/labelling what is normal male behavior that is the nuke going off in the culture. And, like a real nuke, it has all kinds of horrendous after-effects and complications as the radioactive fallout/shrapnel hits areas never intended to be hit.

  19. “He charms women almost constantly in his day-to-day life, not because he’s trying to bang, but because he’s learned this behavior back when it wasn’t labelled as verboten knowledge . . .”

    That ain’t burden. That’s the way to do it.

  20. Understanding gender dynamics makes you smarter about marriage and to acknowledge the risks of marriage. Men always take risks and with knowledge excess risk can be mitigated.

  21. [Nick and Tom Torerro used to be really tight, now they call each other ‘fakes’. I dunno why. I’ve been on Tom’s podcast in the past, even spoke with him privately on the phone, now I’m a fraud to him for some reason. Again, I dunno. The PUA-sphere is very competitive.]

    1) Nick and Tom do not call each other frauds. They both say to this day that the other has legit skills. To this day Nick says Tom has real pickup skills it’s just that Nick despises Tom for how he treated Nick during their business partnership. Tom also to this day publicly says Nick Krauser is a good source for pickup knowledge (check his evolution of daygame post) Tom just disassociated with Nick because of Nick’s extreme political views.

    2) Tom has listed The Rational Male as recommended reading in his own Street Hustle textbook. If I had to take a guess as to why Tom does not want to do the Red Man Group it’s because he says the manosphere’s advice has political and religious agendas and is whiny/negative. He says it’s not practical and actionable like PUA content is. And I agree.

    See these two posts of his for context.

    1) Standing up for Pickup
    https://tomtorero.com/2018/11/15/standing-up-for-pickup/.

    2) Pickup is Punk.
    https://tomtorero.com/2017/12/26/pickup-is-punk/

  22. Dexter: “To this day Nick says Tom has real pickup skills it’s just that Nick despises Tom for how he treated Nick during their business partnership”

    Its more than that, but Dexter is close enough here to a TL:DR of my position.

  23. “The PUA-sphere is very competitive.”

    The PUA-sphere has no skin in the game of outcomes, only playing to the weaknesses of its customers for their own profit.

    The PUA-sphere competes against how fast a certain churning demographic will wise up and move on from an overworked, saturated, snake-oil industry.

    The PUA-sphere teaches something akin to “Learn 40 guitar song with these simple 4 cords!” Anyone with an ear knows busking that shit just doesn’t sound right.

    Dexter Daygame. A name as unoriginal as his comment, his argument, his work ethic.

    Anytime you feel man enough you come on back with some friends, Poindexter.

  24. “The hardcore MGTOWs have a global hatred of all things PUA to the point that anything that smells like deference to women makes you a “pussy beggar“”

    ?
    I’m an hardcore MGTOW and I think that the typical path of an hardcore MGTOW is either:
    PUA at 20
    Married at 30
    Separating at 40
    MGTOW since the day after the separation
    OR
    PUA at 20, 30 then, when he become tired of women…and GYOW

    A man can’t be a real hardcore MGTOW without having tried enough women, and without knowing how women works.

    “The global hatred of all things PUA” is a mistake, and it’s due MGTOW is infested by many loud incels pretending to be MGTOW: actually incels pretending to be MGTOW cannot be hardcore MGTOW, since they are not even real MGTOW!

  25. @Blax

    lol I ain’t defending anybody.

    I agree with everything in the comments section of krausers blog post. From the attacks on Rollo’s associates (not the first time someone has written a post about them https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/a0ph2s/the_monetization_of_the_manosphere/), to going after Blackdragon for rationalizing paying for sex, even going after @Sentient’s boy, James Marshall’s company, The Natural Lifestyles:

    “Their real business model is to scam chodes into covering their hooker bill. They don’t use game to get laid. They use the pretence of teaching game (which they don’t have) to generate revenue to pay for the girls they hire for sex”

  26. The thing I have always found funny about ” organized ” pua stuff, is the level of judgementalism and back-biting behaviors. This is as an outsider looking in, and as a man that hasn’t felt any need to gather in groups of males to talk about how to meet, know, and have sex with women. So I’ve just hung back and observed how men react in groups over time – pua material aside – and how they tend to try and attack one another from time to time, and the subjects they tend to use in said attacks.

    Shit’s fascinating in a car wreck kind of way.

    Guys that said they had a horrible time talking to women much less having sex with them, go on a quest for the magic spell to speaketh into the ears of random women to potentiate some manner of sexual relations with them of varying duration. When they do get laid, whatever ” guru ” they’d happen to have been reading at the time becomes a Master Worthy of Eternal Following.

    …. until he’s not.

    I’ve read a little krauser, and BD, and a few others, but I don’t read them often ( don’t care for krauser’s ” views ” and shit ) and that’s easy enough to do. Pop into krauser and read ” mudshark “, and pop the fuck back out. Take a look at BD and read about how stupid men have to be to ever consider marriage, and all of this stuff about harems and threesomes and laying down the law and blah blah blah, and then I exit stage right.

    There’s no law stating that I have to stay and read. No mandatory minimum site usage I’m beholden to. I don’t like what they write ( I don’t buy 90% of any of it ), so I bounce. No harm, no foul.

    But the talk about banging hookers or being old or funny hair of being fat…. outside of it’s comedic value, it’s real bitch-like. The manner that it is done is in a hardcore feminine tone. Men give no fucks about who other men are fucking. It’s not a real topic, outside of comedic value sometimes , for discussion.

    I’ve never banged a prostitute. I also don’t judge another man for doing so because 1) it’s none of my fucking business and it has no bearing on me or my life, and 2) I never say ” never ” ( often ) because my life situation might change on day and I might just pay some chick for some sex.

    You never know.

    Plus, these guys need to produce content. They have blogs selling a dream.

    If I’d had the internet when I was knocking down chicks like bowling pins, it’d never have occurred to me to go brag about it online, nor would I be presumptuous enough to believe that I could teach other men to do something that was own personal preference, nor would I pass judgement on other men if they chose to go some other way and bang who they wanted without meeting my standards.

    Packaging ” men get sex ” is an odd proposition imo. Men been getting sex since the first dick hit the planet, so endless parsing over it seems a waste of valuable time. But I get it. Everything must be hashed out and discussed and dissected and autopsied and scaled and diagramed and etc.

    And of course in all that flurry of activity, bitchy behavior just has to raise it’s ugly head.

    Personally ( just my opinion ) PUA has pretty much run it’s course. There’s enough content for free ( as YaReally used to say ) where dudes can read until their eyeballs burst into flames without choosing a Master to follow.

    yet, it’s funny to see some dude on a pua blog’s comment section mentioning Rollo or TRM when this site’s subject matter is much deeper and more intellectual than the constantly rehashed shit on most pua sites.

    …. looks matter y’all. Lol.

    Taking TRP and dissecting it and autopsying it doesn’t really work in the real world. Field testing it? Yeah, that’ll work. But you won’t really learn anything about the red pill by studying/practicing/playing pickup. If you are fortunate, you will manage to bang some chicks. That is what life is all about, right? Then you’ll get bored, and boredom is a pathway to silly fuckery. And the ” Master ” has to keep your attention because he’s invested, so he’ll get down in the boredom gutter too sometimes.

    Masculinity.

    Jesus.

    Aight, enough words from me tonight.

  27. Amen, brothers! Rollo is on fire. I recently YouTube’d “The Red Pill Lens – Politics” with many of the same speakers mentioned for the Patriarch convention. INCREDIBLE! Very profound talk (really, really liked Elliott Hulse). Three thoughts: 1) Fatherhood is the future of Red Pill (everything else is academic unless your genes live on); 2) Patriarchy is synonymous with recorded history because matriarchies were simply obliterated by patriarchal societies; and 3) yes, there are lots of thirty betas, but there are also LOTS women thirsty for positively masculine men.

    P.S. – Perhaps the 21 convention should consider Hungary as well? I hear they are de-funding feminism and “gender studies.” Great moves towards countering the F.I.

  28. My colon proved not to be toxic, with my screening colonoscopy this past week.

    With this latest post by Rollo, what I want to see happen is that a forum is devised with private messaging. I foresee guys connecting de novo in their hometowns with each other in a red pill tribe way.

    I personally don’t need any more friends, as I’ve got enough, but I think others would benefit by collaborative affiliation with other guys.

    I think it would be good to have one of the content providers in The Red Man Group organize a way for boots on the ground. guys to get organized with other Red Pill guys….

    I think it would be a huge advancement.

  29. Surely the best advice for guys in dysfunctional marriages is to just get divorced?

    Unless there are young children involved, why even try and “turn the ship around” at all?

    Your time would be better spent investing in new women.

  30. If a man invests in New women with the same mindset and beliefs that he held in marriage, he will more than likely wind up with very similar results.

    Becoming red pill aware and embracing masculinity provides the potential to turn around a failing blue pilled union in many cases ( but not all of course ). Most married men happen to actually love their wives, but cannot continue along the thorn filled blue path.

    It’s not about them, it’s about you. Always. Remaining blue pilled delusional cannot be resolved by incorporating ” new women “.

  31. Assuming you are Red Pill aware, I still think it makes more sense to divorce.

    Why try and win back “the one”? The One doesn’t exist. Your wife isn’t special.

  32. Diesel

    Assuming you are Red Pill aware, I still think it makes more sense to divorce.

    Children are a factor. Divorce generally has bad effects.

    Some religious men do not have the option of divorce except under limited circumstances.

    Why try and win back “the one”? The One doesn’t exist. Your wife isn’t special.

    Strawman fallacy.
    Either argue better or troll harder.

  33. Oh, the kick-off to the Oscars.

    I’m know my place and i’m not going to sell myself short. Red Pill celebritory-wise.

    We are the champions, my friends
    And we’ll keep on fighting ’til the end
    We are the champions
    We are the champions
    No time for losers
    ‘Cause we are the champions of the world

    We are the champions, my friends
    And we’ll keep on fighting ’til the end
    We are the champions
    We are the champions
    No time for losers
    ‘Cause we are the champions…

    Back in the day we used to take Queen as is it came at us in the 70’s.

    It was semi-celebritorious. Rocking it. Celebration of Rock. That was fun. We were so innocent, we had no idea of the queerness. At all.

  34. @AR

    My argument is perfectly sound, it is always better to invest in a new woman than go digging through the garbage

    Interesting points about why you would stay though, I can see how children or religion would be a factor and I can understand that.

    Just have to be careful guys don’t use the kids as an excuse to maintain blue pill ideals with a Quality Woman(tm)

  35. Diesel
    My argument is perfectly sound, it is always better to invest in a new woman than go digging through the garbage

    That was your argument. It was not your fallacy.

    Note that Rollo said the same thing years ago, only more concisely.

    Interesting points about why you would stay though, I can see how children or religion would be a factor and I can understand that.

    Red Pill is praxis. Churchgoing men exist in a sea of feminist junk just like the rest of us, but have chosen self-restrictions. That doesn’t prevent them from seeing clearly though.

    Just have to be careful guys don’t use the kids as an excuse to maintain blue pill ideals with a Quality Woman(tm)

    The first step to wisdom is to call things by their right names. It is one of the virtues of Rollo’s writing.

    “They are all girls” – Blaximus.

  36. My argument is perfectly sound, it is always better to invest in a new woman than go digging through the garbage

    All women are garbage–untrained women, that is. So men need to develop training skills. Parents do some training, but a man needs to train a woman to be the way that he wants her to be. A man who knows how to train a woman will have high value to her. Vetting will only take you so far…

    Lessons from The Taming of the Shrew.

  37. Okay, let’s bottom line this shit for the sake of brevity.

    1) If a man married a ” garbage woman ” in the first place, that’s on him and him alone. That man, for whatever reason, has poor vetting skills. I’d wager that the bulk of marriage don’t end because ” woman garbage “. Buffer in the 1st degree.

    2) A man with ” blue pill ideals ” will have a tough go of it with women. It’s not The Women. So bailing on your blue pill marriage immediately is like junking your cars because you never performed basic maintenance and they continuously broke down. Oh well, just keep buying more cars and never change the oil and put the shittiest gas you can find in the tank, right? Get a flat and drive on the rim until it won’t move anymore, then get rid of it and do the same with the next one….And the next one….

    If you suck at lion training, stay away from lions.

  38. Asd, the idea that all women are garbage untrained women is positively ludicrous on it’s face.

    It’s true that a man just do a measure of training, but he also must be able to realize when he lacks the skillset to train the individual women he has chosen and cut his loses before ever considering waltzing down the aisle .

    It’s not about undertaking some kind of monumental task. Most men won’t ever have that kind of resolve or stamina.

  39. @Diesel,is either a divorce lawyer or a 21 shill. Irresponsible men are always trying to give irresponsible advice to their superiors in the crab barrel. LOL,”you could just change her out for a different one”,is blue pill to the bone.

    For the sake of discussion,IDGAF who sees me rooting through the garbage,there’s stuff to eat in there after all. I have to learn how to deal with this one before I can deal with the next or even add a few more women to the spin. Advice on marriage LOL.

  40. I Like @Blax’s car analogy. Mainly because it is the man maintaining the car,not the car maintaining the man. As in don’t marry your mother,yet stick with a model that you can figure out how to maintain.

  41. If you see somebody with the hood up at the filling station it is no big deal they may be a pro driver. When you see it up on the side of the road with a bunch of monkeys gathered around like they are trying to figure out how to fuck a water buffalo,avoid that cluster fuck till you see the money.

    If a guy tells you to abandon the vehicle he may be your friend or maybe a opportunist, I would rule out opportunist first, before assuming friendship.

  42. It’s true that a man just do a measure of training, but he also must be able to realize when he lacks the skillset

    Early relationships should be used to build the skillset. I knew this back when I was 21 y.o. and was in my first relationship.

    A feral woman is like a feral house (such as a repo). A fixer upper. In both cases you need a skillset to fix it up.

  43. “Early relationships should be used to build the skillset. I knew this back when I was 21 y.o. and was in my first relationship.”

    Old timey man,these days men are getting such a late start they need to go to trade school.

  44. ASD

    “Early relationships should be used to build the skillset. I knew this back when I was 21 y.o. and was in my first relationship.”

    Don’t you have to change some diapers?

    Check yourself before you wreck yourself…

    You’ve had what two relationships? Come on now.

    Check yourself before you wreck yourself…

  45. “Early relationships should be used to build the skillset.”

    Some more pearls…

    Feet should be used to build the walking skillset.

    Food should be used to build the eating skillset.

    C’mon man.

  46. ” garbage woman ”

    I believe that was the same phraseology Jesus used at the stoning.

    No wait. It was the opposite.

    Take a good hard look at yourself, ASD.

    Who made you arbiter of human value anyways?

    Musing about people as garbage reflects more on your lack of relationship “skill set”. Good Lord. How shallow, how vapid.

    Only you could write “skill set” unironically, btw.

    Peel the onion.to think outside the box because at the end of the day living on the bleeding edge offers new paradigms of humans being beyond humans doing.

    Other trite life coach phrases available on request.

  47. I believe that was the same phraseology Jesus used at the stoning.

    No wait. It was the opposite.

    Take a good hard look at yourself, ASD.

    Lol, EI, you need to look at the big picture. As in, click on “Read more.” I was quoting someone else.

  48. ASD

    “All women are garbage–untrained women, that is.”

    What else is there to read?

    I disagree with the basis of your premise, believe it countrrprocounter and will let it rise or fall on it’s own merits.

  49. @Sentient

    You’ve had what two relationships?

    Yep. I don’t consider my fling a relationship since it lasted five days. Nor do I count dates as relationships.

    My first gf and I made out for an hour every day for eight months. Lots of romance and feewings. She paid my way on dates, generally. My gf had a car and gas money, so she usually drove. My first gf was my set of training wheels. But I didn’t build my total skillset based on my relationship with her. I did learn a bit about women’s sexual psychology and I learned a bit about calibration of their emotions. I built most of my skillset in the last couple of years and I’m at the level of unconscious competence. Somehow I managed to muddle through about four decades of marriage.

    How long have you been at the level of unconscious competence with training women? And I still don’t see much in your writings that shows that you understand the necessity of training women or how to train women. I learned from HABD and it works well. HABD is on board with The Taming of the Shrew…as am I…maybe Blax a little…maybe Rollo wrote about it too, idk–I haven’t read all of his posts, just the last six years.

    @all

    I’m on board the “looks don’t matter” bus in terms of facial structure and height, but I’m definitely also on board the “looks matter” bus in terms of body language and other forms of nonverbal communication–how you stand, walk, facial expressions, vocal tones, etc.

    I was reminded of this today when I was walking at a mall. I have a white mustache and chin beard and was wearing a sweatshirt and a backpack and jeans and a black cap. I am overweight. Standing straight as usual, head high, chin up, and walking with energy and pushing off with my toes…thinking about stuff that amuses me…probably smiling. A pretty 30sih girl saw me and looked away (an IOD), but her eyes blinked and her expression was a bit shocked with parted lips (a strong IOI).

    There was no verbal game on my part, so it had to be looks. She probably prefers weathered skin, lol. Seriously, it was about my nonverbal communication. I looked at her as we passed and she noticed my body language, etc. Your body language and nonverbal behavior can convey dominance or lack thereof.

    tl;dr Dominant nonverbal behavior in men is attractive. The kind of looks that women crave.

  50. ASD

    And I still don’t see much in your writings that shows that you understand the necessity of training women or how to train women.

    I see no evidence of your training any women… In the way that you think of it anyway.

    Tell us about what you did with the baby today, for example…

  51. @EI

    I was using Diesel’s term “garbage” in my reply to him.

    In the beginning of The Taming of the Shrew, was Katerina suitable for a relationship? If not, then she was worthless as is in terms of being relationship material–we call worthless things “garbage.”

    You’re a smart guy–this should be obvious to you.

  52. @Sentient

    Mrs. Gamer has admitted that she needs to stop badmouthing SIL. And she cut herself off from doing so and hasn’t done it since.

    I can’t remember the last time that Mrs. Gamer hit me with an emotional ambush.

    Training.

    I will contact SIL to see about getting together. Maybe we’ll do a class at Home Depot. Maybe take a course on plumbing at a trade school together.

  53. My first gf and I made out for an hour every day for eight months….”

    If I made out with any chick more than 20-30 minutes, we fuckin’.

    8 months?

  54. ” If not, then she was worthless as is in terms of being relationship material–we call worthless things “garbage.”

    This is sophistry and deviod of spirit.

  55. Yeah, I was pretty silly–was in my boy scout mode…FI was pushing hard…she wanted to fuck, lol…

    @EI

    Go pick a beef with Diesel who used the term and quit picking a fight with me, douchebag.

  56. Blax, most of the time I was making out in the hallway of the girl’s dorm at a church college–no coed rooms and men weren’t allowed in girls’ rooms and vice versa. Vice Squad gets a call if you fuck there. One time we were hot and heavy on my family’s sofa and my mom announced her presence from the stairs as a warning. The car was a possibility, of course. There were logistical issues most of the time. I could have worked around them and the girl wanted me to. Empty classrooms at night, etc. Of course, getting busted was always a possibility. We could have gone camping on a weekend without telling our parents or friends. I didn’t think of some of these options because I was in boy scout mode, lol.

  57. Yeah, I was pretty silly–was in my boy scout mode…FI was pushing hard…she wanted to fuck, lol…

    When I was around chicks I didn’t particularly want to fuck, I never considered making out with them for an hour for 8 months. I’m having a real hard time understanding this. I was once a cub scout for a minute, but never a Boy Scout, so maybe they teach guys to make out or something.

    Was there a badge for that?

    Tell me more asd. I’m willing to learn something new every day. Why would you bother to make out with a woman ( because both of y’all weren’t ” kids ” or adolescence ) for such a long time and not have sex?

    Where’s that discussion about libido when you need it? Lol.

    How was this scenario FI related? You’re older than me, so why didn’t I see this FI pushing stuff?

    You know, looking waayyyy back, when I was a teenager, if a girl wanted to make out for a very long time and my balls started to ache, I cut her off if she was firm on the ” no sex ” thing. I mean, what the actual fuck? What’s the point? I’m really trying to get this. I get when you’re very young, and you play spin the bottle or doctor or show me yours and I’ll show you mine, but once you are past….. Say…. I’ll give you 17-18 years old, I’m not playing anymore with anyone.

    So it’s you and her alone in a room. Where’s the FI?

    Even though I was way too young to be having sex the very first time, it was just a natural progression. I wasn’t even thinking “: I’m gonna bang this chick “. I wasn’t even sure what ” banging ” really was. But that making out and feeling up led to sex. Afterwards we both were a bit surprised, lol. So how and why would a male stop himself once the ball was already rolling?

  58. logistics do matter for somebody you just met and don’t really know. But chicks I saw almost every day for years? I’d find someplace to bang them. Lol. It’s a big world out there. I can’t count how many chicks I’ve banged in all kinds of parks, beaches, hell – even parking structures.

    I couldn’t wait until I got my own place, or at least was old enough to get hotel rooms.

    The first time a banged my 1st wife was inside a car. Then outside the car. Then on the hood of the car….etc. Even after we were married for years and years and years, with a child, she still got banged on the deck and on the balcony outside of our bedroom. We were caught in a downpour from hell in Florida once, and wound up having some serious sex.

    So, logistics? meh.

    Lol, here at my place of employment, we have 125 or so conference rooms. A growing problem now is people banging in empty conference rooms. They are extremely nice conference rooms, but nobody wants to see panties on the floor when they have a meeting. Nobody has been caught recently, but the new cameras will eventually tell the tale.

  59. “There is no evidence that Congress actually gauged whether women would be disproportionately unable to serve in combat, as compared with men, when excluding them from the draft. ”

    Oh really? Well they say so…nothin to see here….now back to my 64 oz. slurpee.

    More seriously, this is how it works:

    Speech evolution: Grammar yields logic yields rhetoric.

    Grammar cannot describe accurate logic or rhetoric but accurate rhetoric and logic require accurately descriptive grammar.

    Men and women are forcibly gendered first and desexualized of their personhood. Gender is arbitrary, sex is not. Now men can be feminine almost-women and women masculine almost-men.

    As now grammar is distorted, i.e. measuring things verbally with the wrong metric, higher order logic and rhetoric are distorted.

    Torture the grammar first and the logic and rhetoric will tell you anything.

    Thus we get reports claiming zero evidence of women being less capable….based on tortured fluid gender concepts and not boots-on-the-ground unbending sexual realities. The zero “evidence” is based on whole-cloth fiction but presented as logic and argued rhetorically as the basis of the idea of human life is on its ear.

    ASD, you did this today and a lot to square your circles. You torture the grammar, using metrics for person description that aren’t appropriate. The rest of your argument is void to your readers but to you it makes total sense, as long as you’re fully committed to the mismeasuring description. You do that passive aggressively too. I’m not sure why you feel compelled to do so.

    Anyways…..

    We must accept the NewSpeak grammar to accept the suicide by proxy lives we are convinced to live.

    The grammar must be corrupted first to fully corrupt logic then rhetoric and then the masses autoreinforce the lies in their own in daily conversations.

    https://youtu.be/fe5IUXnUsFU

  60. Cardinal Pell Guilty!

    Yet another in a long line of Christian / Catholic Monsters…from the Flood to the Inquisition to Today…all Sons of the Greatest Monster of them All…The God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob!

    Nearing its end
    Christianity lurches
    Unable to maintain
    The lies of the churches

    As I reveal
    The unholy con
    I lift up My Cup
    And adore Babylon!

  61. Tiger says:
    All women are garbage–untrained women, that is. So men need to develop training skills. Parents do some training, but a man needs to train a woman to be the way that he wants her to be.

    >

    What have you; slept through the last 50 years?

    As a male; you should take great solace in the fact that you are still permitted some free physical movement and fully codified mancipium has not yet taken hold for the de facto Slave Gender.

    Enjoy what little liberty you still have; it is far later in the game than your breed would ever imagine.

  62. Blax

    There is nothing to learn in ASD’s retelling. It’s end of life post hoc retellings of what might have been.

    Move along… Shaking the head all the way.

  63. It’s end of life post hoc retellings of what might have been.

    Lol. @ Sentient, and that’s precisely what I never wanted for myself in the later years. I never planned on being the age I am now, and I can see that was a good thing in many respects.

  64. Christianity…The Greatest Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing that ever existed…a “religion” so corrupt…so malevolent..so overtly evil…DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR SO MUCH HORROR FOR SO MANY CENTURIES…that it makes Adolph or the Mafia look like a bunch of subway pickpockets.

    The greatest religion of hate that ever existed…murderous, malignant, avaricious beyond all human comprehension, power-mad…insane with bloodlust….responsible for the death of millions…genocidal mania incarnate.

    And yet, ask the average American about this unspeakably evil “faith”; and they will tell you it is one of the “Great Religions”.

    Why? Because you are all under an Unbelievably Powerful Mindwipe that makes you excuse, ignore or justify atrocities beyond all comprehension; all because they were done in the “Name of Jesus”…probably the filthiest cock-sucker that ever lived.

    Wake up you idiot sheep!

    Though it probably will not happen; deprogramming the brainwashed takes time.

  65. 25 Feb 2019: “Florida man arrested for allegedly throwing cookie at girlfriend” ///

    Yes; you males have free reign to “train” women into whatever you wish to mold us into…lol.

    Remember; you are one phone call away from a prison cell WHENEVER WE WANT TO RE-LOCATE YOU TO ONE.

    REMEMBER THAT BOYS!

  66. Lol, @Blax.

    I always planned on being the age I am now, and I can see that was a good thing in many respects.

    EhIntellect and I have had a lot of back and forth debate about living life by being bold and making mistakes first, making up for it and then dusting off and moving on with more experience (him) vs. not fucking up first and foremost, moving forward and pushing for more and more (me).

    https://media.giphy.com/media/l41lJGJEyjYTKMxag/giphy.gif

    It turns out, being brought more towards the functional median on a bell curve is a good thing. Being able to have other guys tell you to push and pull the other way is healthy.

    “Oh now feel it, comin’ back again
    Like a rollin’, thunder chasing the wind
    Forces pullin’ from
    The center of the earth again
    I can feel it.–Live, Lightening Crashes lyrics

    “About once a week, you should sit down with your closest men friends and discuss what you are doing in your life and what you are afraid of doing. The conversation should be short and simple. You should state where you are at. Then, your friends should give you a behavioral experiment, something you can do that will reveal something to you, or grant more freedom in your life.

    Your close men friends should be willing to challenge your mediocrity by suggesting a concrete action you can perform that will pop you out of your rut, one way or the other. And you must be willing to offer them your brutal honesty, in the same way, if you are all to grow. Good friends should not tolerate mediocrity in one another. If you are at your edge, your men friends should respect that, but not let you off the hook. They should honor your fears, and, in love, continue to goad you beyond them, without pushing you.

    If you merely want support from your men friends without challenge, it bespeaks an unresolved issue you may have with your father, whether he is alive or dead. The father force is the force of loving challenge and guidance. Without this masculine force in your life, your direction becomes unchecked, and you are liable to meander in the mush of your own ambiguity and indecision. Your close men friends can provide the stark light of love—uncompromised by a fearful Mr. Nice act—by which you can see the direction you really want to go.

    Choose men friends who themselves are living at their edge, facing their fears and living just beyond them. Men of this kind can love you without protecting you from the necessary confrontation with reality that your life involves. You should be able to trust that these friends will tell you about your life as they see it, offer you a specific action which will shed light on your own position, and give you the support necessary to live in the freedom just beyond your edge, which is not always, or even usually, comfortable.” –Deida

    I’m not sure of the “not push you” lovey dovey thing, or the protecting from reality shit. Pushing is fine. It all starts with a Field Report. And not a self aggrandizing one…

    I feel totally comfortable telling a Field Report to my buddies at my worst. ‘Cause I trust them. Over time there are no worsts as you get better…And life is beautiful as you face your age. No harm done.

    I haven’t told a Field Report here in ages. I don’t need to. Because I have my IRL buddies for that. Lightning Crashes. You get better. If your buddies kick your ass, poke you with a sharp stick. Let them. And Learn. Get Better, fucker.

  67. When you are a younger man, I believe it’s imperative to live life with a sense of urgency. Get as much shit accomplished as possible and keep adding to your personal list.

    Slow comfort in life is way overrated.

    Last weekend, another old acquaintance took that long dirt nap. his daughter is one of my gang of granddaughters. I stepped in for him in his absence over 18 years ago. My wife was notified that he died in a hail of gunfire downtown in a known drug area. My response seemed cruel, but it was heartfelt and succinct – ” he was on borrowed time for 30 years and never realized it. He had a good run and it reached it’s undeniable conclusion “.

    Knowing enough people that did suddenly over a lifetime gives you a clearer perspective. Don’t coast.

    Watching my uncles on both parents sides die of varying reasons before the age of 50 was something that stayed with me until this day. It’s cliche, but tomorrow really isn’t guaranteed to anyone. I can think of an even dozen kids I grew up with that never saw adulthood for a variety of reasons. Suicide, killed/accidents, violence, illness…. Makes you realize some important things and strengthens your resolve.

    So no, I didn’t live life like I’d be around today. Lol, both my dad and I are both shocked that we are still around.

    Young cats, get busy living. Don’t procrastinate. Don’t wallow in comfort and satisfaction. Save that for when you’re an old fart like me.

    …. But even I ain’t ready for the rocking chair just yet.😂

  68. A couple ideas:

    Rollo has been pointing out what gender war looks like.

    How to win a war:

    1) Recognize you are in a war.

    2) Recognize the enemy.

    3) Recognize your strengths and weaknesses.

    4) Recognize the enemy strengths and weaknesses.

    5) Act upon those above realities as best as possible.

    A gender war is not a battle of the sexes.

    The sexes are two camps begging covertly for an alliance. But something is getting in the way.

    We an’t get past step two.

    We’ve adopted the gender war ROE set by neither in the fight.

    Rollo uses the terminology preferred by those best served by confusion. He’s playing their game.

    “It turns out, being brought more towards the functional median on a bell curve is a good thing.”

    Not true. This is playing not to lose. The above is a black swan recipe.

    Play to win.

  69. I was thinking more along the lines of not being at the Black Swan functional tails on a spectrum, either far right or far left of the median. Of course no one should shoot for being medium, rather than exceptional. Having robustness against being zeroed out.

    Nassim Taleb’s Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable treatise:

    A central idea in Taleb’s book is not to attempt to predict Black Swan events, but to build robustness to negative events and an ability to exploit positive events. Taleb contends that banks and trading firms are vulnerable to hazardous Black Swan events and are exposed to losses beyond those predicted by their defective financial models.

    The book asserts that a “Black Swan” event depends on the observer, e.g., what may be a Black Swan surprise for a turkey is not a Black Swan surprise for its butcher. Hence the objective should be to “avoid being the turkey”, by identifying areas of vulnerability in order to “turn the Black Swans white”.

    And Kevin Dutton’s Wisdom of Psychopaths functionality, also robustness:

    https://www.theemotionmachine.com/wp-content/uploads/optimum-psychopath-level.jpg

    https://www.theemotionmachine.com/what-can-psychopaths-teach-us-about-success/

    At extreme levels, psychopathy can lead to a lot of antisocial and destructive behaviors; but in moderate levels, it can actually come with interesting advantages.

    For example, psychopaths tend to be very focused, ambitious, and confident when it comes to achieving their goals. A person who has very low levels of psychopathy probably isn’t very good at standing up for themselves and what they believe in.

    According to psychiatrist Kevin Dutton, one key difference between “clinical psychopaths” and “functional psychopaths” is that the functional ones know the right context to exhibit their psychopathic characteristics.

  70. 😂😂😂

    No shade intended, but a lot of these authors writing shit about behaviors and the like sound crazy as fuck sometimes.

    ” people shiver more in the cold than they do when ambient temperatures are closed to body temperatures… ”

    😂 stfu.

    Wanna know human nature? Proclivities?

    Watch and interact with humans.

    Brilliant!!!!!!

    You cannot read your way into any kind of true understanding. You’ll just fine yourself consistently misreading people and circumstances.

    /rant over and out.

  71. Blax,

    Recall your personal laundry list accomplishments re: j provocation that he’s as good as you for his age.

    Those accomplishments you value. You wrote them to justify your past.

    Those accomplishments aren’t nothing but they aren’t you unless you make them so.

    When you do, and write such, it’s a pedestalization of stuff. Your MPoO is elsewhere.

    Interacting with others is good only insofar as y’all are dealing with accuracy.

    Gaming the system often entails finding the exploiting glitch weaknesses/buffers/fears/inaccuracies in others.

    It goes both ways.

    Reinforcing others weaknesses for one’s gain is playing not to lose.

    Blax, you are good at the game and the
    amassed list is a reflection of your acceptance of playing the game, and holding high, for example, a full 401k, as your value.

    Who defines you as such? You? Maybe you’re complicit in all this too and now prefer to relate to others on standards defined by them. You’ve been doing it so long that their standards are now yours and you’ll fight to the death, well, at least rant and rub J’s nose in it, to maintain that reality.

    You’re fooling yourself that it’s so.

    Just interacting with others isn’t informed.

  72. Reading the observations of others can be a jump start to your own observations. The trick is to not trust until verified, but knowing what you are looking for can save a lot of time, trial and error, some of which might prove unnecessarily fatal.

    The paradox of this though is that reading is of the most benefit to those who need it the least, those most capable of discerning observation.

  73. Blaximus wrote:

    “Get as much shit accomplished as possible and keep adding to your personal list.
    Slow comfort in life is way overrated.”

    AND

    “No shade intended, but a lot of these authors writing shit about behaviors and the like sound crazy as fuck sometimes.
    ” people shiver more in the cold than they do when ambient temperatures are closed to body temperatures… ”
    stfu.
    Wanna know human nature? Proclivities?
    Watch and interact with humans.
    Brilliant!!!!!!
    You cannot read your way into any kind of true understanding. You’ll just fine yourself consistently misreading people and circumstances.”

    >

    Hell has clearly frozen over as you have penned two intelligent posts…

  74. “there’s probably a video of them doing it in the car later somewhere on the interwebs…lol”

    He didn’t even need to observe the intermediate ritual of tripping her up. Just advance directly to Go

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