Six years ago I wrote a post outlining what the PUA community referred to then as “Chick Crack“. It was a pretty straight forward post that I delved into just to explain why playing to women’s propensity to believe in the spiritual – or what women would consider spiritual – is an effective technique in Game. I always thought it was funny how accurate this presumption about women was when I came across it.
Of all the strippers I’d ‘dated’ in the past every one subscribed to some form of non-mainstream spiritualism. This girl Angie I used to bang kept Tarot cards in her pink lady’s devotional Bible, another professed to be a psychic; in fact the only people I’ve ever known who self-seriously wanted me to believe they were in fact psychic were all women.
[…] For the stripper set this seems to be par for the course, but I wish I could say this chick-crack phenomenon was limited to just women who had some vacuous spiritual/emotional hole in their lives to fill. No, all women (yes I said all) are predisposed to the intrigue that metaphysical imaginings sparks in them. If it smacks of secret, covert knowledge, privy only to a chosen few, then you’ve got an attentive listener in a woman. UFOs, palm reading (always a classic), psychic premonition, ‘gifts of prophecy’, really anything that hints at knowledge beyond the ordinary is fair game. Chick Crack is not just limited to off-brand spiritualisms either, you’ll find that far more women than men will develop (conveniently) an affinity for, and are more invested in, religion than men.
In the wake of the Anthony Bourdain “suicide“, and the scramble to absolve Asia Argento of any complicity in his decision to hang himself, I came across this post about Asia’s penchant for Witchcraft. Apparently Wicca is somewhat more than a hobby for her. As you look at these pictures it’s important to remember that this is a 42 year old woman (and her friends) who sincerely believes in this stuff.
In Chick Crack I also made reference as to why I believe women’s being predisposed to beliefs in the supernatural is a desire for secret power from an innate position of female powerlessness.
Feminine Mythology
Women’s natural pull towards the mysterious and metaphysical has its roots in the sex’s historical characterizations. In keeping with the very useful associations of women’s unknowability and feminine mystique, it’s perhaps unsurprising that we find most mythologized representations of women and femininity cast as brooding, fickle, rapacious and often as a temptress, possessing secret knowledge that foolish men (the mere mortals) are neither capable of, nor encouraged to understand. Sometimes childlike, often conveniently eroticized, women are literally cast as forces of nature – whether sexualized nymphs or tempestuous witches, each characterization relies on women possessing some form of secret or forbidden connection to the metaphysical. Even the commanding presence of Joan of Arc, while leading the armies of France, had a connection to something otherworldly. By their very nature, feminine mythology, by default, presumes women are more in tune with the nature of reality, while surpassing the ignorance of brutish men.
Women revel in their mythology. Since covert forms of communication are the preferred language of women, their affinity for secret information is a natural fit. Ever wonder why gossip seems to be uniquely endemic to women? Look no further than women’s innate impulse to acquire secret knowledge. Take away the Vampires and Werewolves – the metaphysical component – from the Twilight series and what you’re left with is a relatively bland romance novel. Add the otherworldly and you have a runaway hit popular with every female age demographic, from tweens to octogenarians.
In women’s evolutionary past, concealment meant everything. Confusing a man as to the true genetic heritage of his children was often a matter of life or death. Pursuing pluralistic sexual strategies depends upon creating a characterization of women as legitimately unknowable, thus the feminine mystique is instituted. Ergo, the sociological PR campaign over the course of millennia has been to perpetuate the mystery of woman.
From an evolutionary perspective it makes sense that physically weaker tribal women would seek some sort of mastery over the men in their lives who could punish or kill them and their offspring at will. As I’ve covered in many essays, women are biologically and psychologically more attuned to deeper communication and the emotive states of other people. Women have a far greater capacity to understand subcommunications and subcommunicate themselves among their own sex. This is borne out by multiple brain scan studies and research on the architecture of men and women’s brains.
To the blunt, overt, relatively nuance-less interpretive processes of men this subcommunication can be both frustrating and mysterious. It’s the mysterious part that women learned to reinforce and exploit in their dealings with men long ago. This is where we get the idea of the seductress or the ‘keeper of mysterious secrets’ archetype (witch, midwife, nature goddess) for women. It’s less important that women would actually be more in tune with the supernatural, but rather it’s more important that they believe it’s a general truth about all women. Men might be skeptical, or they may buy into that mystique, revere it and encourage other men to believe something similar. Usually how a man adopts or rejects that archetype is determined by his own self-understanding and his Game according to it and his sexual market value.
There are a lot of derivative character archetypes that stem from the basic ‘mysterious woman’ root. That might be anything from a healer, nurturer, mother type rooted in what used to be the mystery of women’s life-giving capacity, to the force of nature sorceress, to the eroticized sexual seductress (nymph, siren) or even the high-priestess of the holy temple of prostitution (an ancient brothel madame). Over the course of history, since our hunter-gatherer beginnings, this means to influence and power for women has coalesced into what we popularly imagine about women’s mysterious nature. Only today we call it a ‘woman’s intuition’ and we make appeals to fortune and fate when a guy get’s “lucky” and a woman favors him with her sexuality. It’s all socialized solutions to evolutionary problems, but if we add an element of ‘magic’ to the equation it makes explaining failures and appreciating successes that much easier.
Today, the belief in this nature is still very much reinforced in society. Thus, we get women subscribing to what amounts to a collective pathology – they are encouraged to believe in their ‘magical’ sensitivities to spirits and forces beyond the sensitivities of (ostensibly) “powerful” men. To fight the mythological Patriarchy women rely on a mythological tool. In Chick Crack I made mention of a stripper I used to have as a friend-with-benefits who was very attuned to the “spirit world”. As such the whole gamut of the supernatural was free game for her to use. She’d read my Tarot cards, my palm, throw in some eastern mysticism and wash it all down with a read through her pink ladies’ devotional Bible. Granted, ‘Angie‘ was an extreme case, but all women are in someway, or say they are in someway, privy to metaphysical understandings which men are not. And today we read and listen to male leaders in mainstream religions adopt and parrot back this “women are closer to God than men” mantra which is directly linked to the ‘spiritual women’ mystique.
The old trope of a Woman’s Intuition is an example of this belief in something beyond the ken of men. And this is also an important aspect of boys’ Blue Pill conditioning – girls/women possess some unearthly connection to God or something supernatural which further cements the idea that they should to defer authority to girls and women if they want to “please God the Goddess”. You might think this hard to believe in our age of technology, but only the context of the supernatural has shifted. Even the most objectively rational boys and men strongly believe in the ‘soul mate myth‘ despite atheism or agnosticism. This belief of the faithless is directly related to the unknowability of the female. Even modern atheists have a tendency to fall prey to the “someone for everyone” religion when it comes to connecting with the opposite sex.
It’s my belief that this presumption of a greater sensitivity to the supernatural is an aspect of women’s evolved mental firmware. Regardless of how false it may be, a woman with the disposition to encourage men to believe that she has some otherworldly connection despite the world or circumstances around them, one that would lead men to venerate her in the long term, would’ve been a powerful social adaptation in ensuring her and her children’s security. No doubt women readers will trot out the reflexive “Well men have been shamans and soothsayers and the patriarchal leaders of churches too”, and this is true, but those men lacked the female elemental advantage in their believability. Even their own belief sets encompassed the ‘spiritual woman’ tropes for better or worse. The wise old wizard is definitely an archetype, but that wizard lacks the feminine mystique and the sexual components only women possess in exercising that power.
Modern Witchcraft
Today we see a distinct falling away from the old order of acknowledging the supernatural. Less and less people subscribe to religion in its conventional sense. The Millennial generation wants nothing to do with “organized religion”, yet they still seek the structure to life it used to provide. So instead we hear the compromise about being “spiritual, but not religious” as if accepting the possibility of the metaphysical is something expected, but the taint of the “religious” is left for older generations. Even in what passes for contemporary religion the influence of the Feminine Imperative is ever-present. The spiritual, the metaphysical, the religious, all are still useful tools for women to consolidate power with. As men abdicate more authority to the feminine, as they themselves are the products of a continuous social feminization, we see a wholesale handover of the spiritual to the direction of women. The male leadership of mainstream religions is itself compromised with the imperatives and priorities of women who are already presumed to be “more in tune with God or the supernatural”. As such they exercise the Feminine Imperative and assimilate women’s stake on the spiritual by being proxy agents for women’s authority.
Today I was linked a story about how Episcopalians have begun to Remove the Man from their religion. Apparently this marks the beginning of rewriting the doctrine of this religion by erasing all masculine pronouns for God. Of course I expect the predictable retorts that Episcopalians aren’t real Christians, but theirs is just one of the more glaring examples of how the feminization of religion progresses. The latent purpose is a wholesale removal of anything conventionally masculine from religion, and/or placing the feminine as the primary connection with the supernatural. Whether it’s mainstream religion or psychic reading, a woman is at the center of that mysticism. If you want a perspective into the things to come for a female-led mega-religion look no further than the teaching of Rev. Shannon Johnson Kershner (dual surname noted). God is not male is the clarion call of the priestesses (and their male ‘ally’ priests) of this new religion.
Why should we view God as female? Well, it’s so that little girls can become pastors, with Kershner saying, ““I wanted to make sure that little girls knew that God could call them to be pastors, too.”
For the MeToo / Time’s Up generation God is female, the supernatural is more aligned with the feminine. I’ve made this observation before (before the #MeToo moral panic arrived) but there’s been a growing push on the part of men to relinquish any spiritual authority from a masculine perspective for decades now. The largely secular impetus of the MeToo movement is now finding its way into a religious environment that has been primed and ready for it (largely due to its acquiescing, complicit, and thoroughly Blue Pill male leadership) for a long time. MeToo was a natural fit for a feminine-primary church that needed its push to consolidate power even in the most patriarchal of religions. MeToo has given women license to finally be overt in their design on religion and spirituality – not unlike Open Hypergamy has been embraced in the mainstream.
In celebration of this conversion of religion to feminine-primacy we get the feminist Beyoncé “worship” services in formerly traditional cathedrals. Millennials may be falling away from the old church, but they fill the new church to overflow-capacity when ‘god’ is female.
The take home message for this essay is this; womankind has been intimately aware of the complicity of men in granting them a default connection to the supernatural. While we may not profess a formal belief in such, men are eager to accommodate female power in this arena – especially if in doing so it endears women to the men who play along with it. Professing a belief in the supernatural is simply good Game. The early PUAs picked up on this and used it to their advantage. However, this abdication of moral authority – an authority founded in masculine pretenses – goes far beyond getting your palm read by an earthy stripper you want to bang. This compromising of moral authority to the feminine by men is just the next phase in conceding all social and political authority to the Feminine Imperative. If God or a ‘higher power’ is the foundation of moral authority, and women are universally presumed to be more in touch with that higher power, the next step is to cede that authority to the sex that has a more direct line to that power.
What prompted me to consider writing this essay was a link I was sent in response to the story about Asia Argento’s involvement in modern day Wicca. I listened to a bit of a podcast by Vox Day recently in which he was asked his thoughts about modern paganism. He said, and I paraphrase, “Paganism today is just kids LARPing to the idea of old world religions. They’re role playing something akin to Dungeons and Dragons with no real belief.” I thought this was interesting in light of the article I was sent on Neo-Paganism and the Feminist Spirituality Movement:
However, some women were not willing to identify themselves as “witches”, and there arose a form of Goddess worship without any of the trappings of witchcraft. As Nevill Drury explains, “Although some Goddess-worshippers continued to refer to themselves as witches, others abandoned the term altogether, preferring to regard their neopagan practice as a universal feminist religion, drawing on mythologies from many different ancient cultures.” This has been called “Goddess worship” and the “Goddess movement”. These terms are frequently used interchangeably with, but should be distinguished from, “feminist spirituality”, which includes the Goddess movement, but also feminist Christianity, feminist Judaism, etc.
[…]
The principal beliefs of the Goddess movement are that the Goddess is a radically immanent deity and she can be experienced directly. The Earth is seen as the body of the Goddess and women are understood to connect to the Goddess through their experience of their own bodies, as well as the “body” of the earth. Goddess feminists also believe that the Goddess is constantly changing, manifest in the changing of the seasons and the human life-cycle, and perpetually self-renewed.
The Goddess movement offers women a new self-image and facilitates women finding their own innate goodness and natural divinity. It enables women to redeem and revalue the “feminine principle” and offers them positive images and symbols of female empowerment.
It may seem easy to dismiss the influence of the feminine on what is re-evolving into a new feminine-world order of spirituality, but I think it would be foolish dismiss the influences of the Feminine Imperative – the Goddess Movement – that is manifesting itself incrementally in the power vacuum left by the abdication of masculine moral authority to the feminine. We read that Millennials may not be “as religious” as previous generations, but that doesn’t mean they don’t seek out ‘spiritual, but not religious’ metaphysical connections. They seek direction, and connection in religion, but they seek it in the secular, gynocentric terms they’ve been conditioned to believe they should define themselves by. A similar parallel exists on the masculine side too. One of the reasons for Jordan Peterson’s popularity is his ‘ministering’ to a generation of “lost boys” seeking direction in life. He is every bit one of the Lords of the New Church in the same way that the Goddess Movement speaks to another demographic of lost souls who seek absolution in the “divine feminine” – also a term Peterson is fond of.
Do about it? All I can do is recognize what’s going on and where it’s gonna lead. People, in general, only actually react when they are in actual pain and suffering but by then it’s pretty much too late. Most Americans aren’t aware of the history of the Roman empire, so they chant ‘merica is #1 no matter how far south things are going. We’re losing the ability to course correct. Leadership acts more like Isis than a republic. We’re at 17 trillion in debt ( a bulk held by China btw ) and were projected to reach a new… Read more »
…. Or go to Mexico.😁 I speak enough Spanish and have no ” ethnic hatred “, so that’s an option.
Do you know enough spanish to start over in the american construction industry?
If you had no money, would it be easier to advance in mexico or the US?
If you become a canadian citizen,then come work illegally in the us you can pay no taxes and go home for the free (paid for by 50% income tax) medical.
The mexican vowels; E I O U A.
The Migra shows up on a jobsite and everyone runs away,still they manage to catch three men.
The officer says if you can make a sentence using the words green,pink,or yellow I will let you be.
The first man says, “Hello Pinche Gringo!” to the bus.
The second says,”Pinche Gringo’s es yellow” to the bus.
The third one says, “The telephone goes green green green,I pink it up and say yellow.”
We’re at 17 trillion in debt ( a bulk held by China btw )
No. China sold off a lot of our debt obligations.
https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124
GNP is at 17.5 trillion. Taxes bring in 6.2 trillion. (That’s more than a third of GNP collected in taxes, so it’s very appropriate to cut taxes.)
The U.S. doesn’t have a finance issue. We have cultural problems which are more serious.
Blax, the biggest risk to the U.S. is what happened to the Byzantines. Internal fractures and hatred and oppression of domestic groups led to treason and the oppressed groups inviting foreign powers to attack Byzantium.
Until we get another game post, fellas go to uTube and search for
“Q The Plan to Save the World” and watch the video. Rollo’s site won’t let me link to it.
Let the sparks fly. lol!
I thought it was 21 trillion
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ueiBYxI6Eqg
Complimentary creations Man first MPO
Women second vessel of creation
You’re right rugby. 21 and climbing.
I thought it was 125 trillion.
Lol. We’ll be gone as a nation before that happens.
Total global debt is unpayable, ergo it will not be paid, ergo there will be a “writeoff” on a scale never before seen. Absolutely nothing can prevent this. The line of inevitability has been crossed. Buckle your seatbelt. It’s going to be a shit show for everyone, but there is one winning (if you call that sort of thing “winning”) strategy: Drown last. Your economy will still be a shit show, but you’ll at least control most of what’s left of real assets. “If you had no money, would it be easier to advance in mexico or the US?” I… Read more »
Facts. Stubborn things.
It’s why when I’m told ” blax, you’re ignorant about finance/politics/economics.. “, I just refer back to the undeniable and forgo the hopeful and wishful thinking.
All of the technical machinations, the political machinations, Will not matter at all when the 2nd show drops. This is what will cause a lot of men to eat lead.
And all of the 80 year old knowledge will be rendered mute.
We’re in uncharted ( for America) and deadly territory.
But the worst thing is, there wi l be zero social media.😂😂
I have friends whose lifelong goal was to acquire a few million dollars worth of assets. They laugh at me if I say ” in a collapse, you assets won’t have worth. You millions will evaporate overnight “.
Better to hone your skills outside of the fiat currency amusement park just in case.
Interesting take on this from an entirely different focus. “In Chinese philosophy, yin and yang (/jɪn/ and /jɑːŋ, jæŋ/; Chinese: 陰陽 yīnyáng, lit. “dark-bright”, “negative-positive”) describes how seemingly opposite or contrary forces may actually be complementary, interconnected, and interdependent in the natural world, and how they may give rise to each other as they interrelate to one another. Many tangible dualities (such as light and dark, fire and water, expanding and contracting) are thought of as physical manifestations of the duality symbolized by yin and yang. This duality lies at the origins of many branches of classical Chinese science and… Read more »
Nature abhors a vacuum. This is basically a meta expression of the gynocentric push globally of “feminine mystique” which is basically chaos taking over. The hive mind is now realising a a forward momentum that it has never had before because men & the societies they managed, patriarchs, had things in check. The last 50 yrs has seen increased abdication in most spheres – scouts, private clubs, male only professions… It is what it is….and as much as JBP is needed, I see what you’re saying with regards to him being one of the famed pastors for the new “sacred… Read more »
Manosphere alike*
Why, Blax, you almost sound like someone who has invested in Bitcoin! 😉 Seriously though, I read some great advice once about how if/when civilization collapses (it doesn’t even have to be full Mad Max territory), having assets and tangible possessions won’t help you. Fiat currency may well become worthless, but even if you have gold or other hard assets like the prepper types (fuel, ammo, canned food, whatever), that just makes you a *target* for theft. But what *will* help you is if you have a *skill* that other people value even in hard times – that can’t be… Read more »
Give me vegetation and I can make fuel.😁
Skillz.lol.
Give me food and I can make wind.
The Gnoll Credo:
4. If you can’t eat it, wear it, wield it, or carry it, leave it behind.
7. Expect trust outside the pack to be betrayed.
10. Stay alive. Hopeless battles are hopeless. Dead is dead.
@ Rollo
You can tell men the truth. You can’t make them accept it.
First two books got me through some harsh stuff
https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/author/ref=mw_dp_a_ap?_encoding=UTF8&author=Cody%20Lundin&searchAlias=books&asin=B001JRXOEW
Just a Rational Male blog PSA: I’ve “upgraded” to the business plan on WordPress recently and as you’ve probably notice shit kinda went sideways in the comments, linking pics, video and the spam filter went fucking nuts. I did this because I wanted to get some better features going here as I have plans to once again freshen up the look and layout. I’ve always been about the content here so I like to have a look that facilitates that without the garbage of email list pop ups and adsense ads fucking up my writing. I’m still working on adding… Read more »
Tragic whats happening inside established mainline protesant churches, its not just the episcopal church. They’ve all taken left turn since 1960s. Female priests led to queer priests, which led to same sex marriage, which opened the door to gay parents adopting kids, which led to raising kids to be queer. Sad.
Protestant, Episcopalian, Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran….
Lol.
All consist of what?
C’mon….
” People “. All consist of people.
people do some great things. People do some really shitty things.
Fuck labels. Fuck what someone labels themselves as. Don’t be a sucker forever.
Judge people by what they do, not what they say. Don’t elevate anyone because of a label or title.
That’s all.
“However, this abdication of moral authority – an authority founded in masculine pretenses – goes far beyond getting your palm read by an earthy stripper you want to bang. This compromising of moral authority to the feminine by men is just the next phase in conceding all social and political authority to the Feminine Imperative.” Masculine moral authority was rejected in the wake of the Catholic church scandals. I would argue the basis of men’s self loathing is derived from these and other instances of this type of behaviour. To many the feminine imperative is seen as the lesser evil… Read more »
Rollo, Peterson is full of shit. The dragon of chaos sometimes has a vagina. Thanks for the Halberd lessons. You’re a very nice man.
“It’s really so rich that Trump supposedly is in with the Russians to interfere in elections….the Russians have been doing that thru US media for decades” Anybody can read Carl Bernstein’s (and others) work that exposed Operation Mockingbird. It’s not just the CIA that is continuously manipulating the media. It’s a massive effort by many, and they mostly go unseen. If you’ve worked in the biz long enough and aren’t wearing blinders you will know. I would expect OBIT to know a bit about this. Don’t expect the large majority of “journalists” to acknowledge this, they will scoff or make… Read more »
The indictment wasn’t about media. It was about evidence.
Let’s not play ” whatabout??”.
Red Pill, remember?
You can have discord in your house, but you wouldn’t accept a neighbor inserting himself into it.
…. and then have your wife tell you ” The neighbor’s fine. He’s a good guy “.
Lmao.
Fellas, if the shite hits the fan, you want to know what’s on this page well before it hits the fan:
https://www.youtube.com/user/EatTheWeeds/videos?flow=grid&view=0&sort=da
You can have discord in your house, but you wouldn’t accept a neighbor inserting himself into it. Alien and Sedition Acts…the problem has been going on since before 1798 The indictment wasn’t about media. It was about evidence. This is laughable. Indictments are not evidence. Mueller has been using indictments for PR which he never expected to have to take to trial because he never expected the Russian defendants to appear in court. They appeared and Mueller looked like a boob. Get your head out of your ass. Seriously. So far the “Russian investigation” has been about baseless accusations against… Read more »
” This is laughable. Indictments are not evidence. Mueller has been using indictments for PR which he never expected to have to take to trial because he never expected the Russian defendants to appear in court. They appeared and Mueller looked like a boob. Get your head out of your ass. Seriously. So far the “Russian investigation” has been about baseless accusations against Trump. RP says that if there’s no evidence, it’s a con. Ask yourself, “Is it in Russia’s interests to have a strong or weak American president?” Has the media been supporting Trump or undermining and attacking him?”… Read more »
And for the last time, READ the indictment.
Yawn….
” “When we confront foreign interference in American elections, it’s important for us to avoid thinking politically, as Republicans or Democrats, and instead to think patriotically as Americans,” Deputy Atty. Gen. Rod Rosenstein said when revealing the new charges. “Our response must not depend on which side is victimized.”
Is this guy a Obama appointee or something??
He he heee….
Gee. He sounds crazy as fuck, right?
Done. G’night.
So, Blax, it’s Ok for Russians to run the U.S. media, using them to propagandize us, but it’s not Ok for Russians to interfere in elections by putting propaganda on Facebook? You call accusations “evidence”. Lots of details in the accusations, but it’s not evidence without witnesses testifying in court. And for the last time, READ the indictment. And, for a second time, I DID read the indictment. Putting it as nicely as possible, go fuck yourself. lol But I have a question…doesn’t it bother you just a little bit that Obama created a voter database using Facebook data on… Read more »
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqlqlvKNfEM&w=560&h=315%5D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1DTyOmaydA
Movements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0p5T9Py89g
JBP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LLqWGn7e_k
“@Foxguy (and @Blaximus who +1 it): financial and security collapse… What do you plan to actually do about it?” Watch for a worsening of the financial collapse first, this has already started, eventually this will lead to essentials shortages this itself may take decades(it will not be one single event), then the real fun will start with the security collapse, most likely a swing towards a police state/dictatorship which will also in end be unsuccessful. As for what you can do that is completely in your hands, it begins with realizing that you are responsible for your own safety and… Read more »
Well in my unplugging days in my twenties, im facing problems, my parents dont like my new self, like an afc being pulled down from the barrel, im being psycho, in a very bad situation, any help
“Well in my unplugging days in my twenties,” A little vague,any time is a good time to wake up and smell the coffee. Twelve or thirteen is even better. ” im facing problems,” Problems are opportunities in disguise,good on you for facing them head on. ” my parents dont like my new self,” Twenties is a little late to be dependent on parents enough to worry about their views of your belief sysstem or values,at some point in our maturation we need to adapt to the changing times and exercise our own strengths. ” like an afc being pulled down… Read more »
Interesting read
https://melmagazine.com/why-the-alt-right-thinks-porn-is-a-jewish-conspiracy-2f9d05530604
“Interesting read”
Basically Bill believes the problem is free porn and men need to pay for it.
Follow the money.
Tweeter
It looks as if our fire season is over here.We made it through after mandatory evacuation for 5 days. No loss.
https://www.nifc.gov/PUBLICATIONS/communicators_guide/9%20Fire%20Mitigation.PDF
See page 9.19
“I have enemies now”
Congratulations on your social promotion.
They’re a blessing, in a way, as they are vested in buffered thinking and make your arguments for you by shoddy sophistry.
@roused I’m sure the major powers all have large staffs busily monitoring the online media and injecting their own spin, or outright misinformation. If you have a large bureaucracy, it has to stay busy. But the sad thing is that the traditional media needs no CIA or any other secret force to manipulate it. Our current high schools and colleges do the job ably. And nearly the entire media ;profession suffers from a mass social and political groupthink. Newsrooms are a bubble; the reader, the customer, is an abstraction or even a downright nuisance. Most of what journalists do is… Read more »
How are you defining, “election interference”? Stopping someone from voting via poll tax or intimidation is election interference. Stuffing a ballot box, deliberately miscounting votes, or destroying votes is election interference. Paying for advertisement is political propaganda and suspicious from foreign powers. Did Russian ads have that much of an influence on USA elections?
“Russian ads” seems like just the tiniest drop in a huge bucket of crap that is the internet. To really manipulate an election via the media you still need to find the candidate in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. “Finding” or “losing” huge stacks of ballots is the more common modus operandi, and we don’t need the Russians to do that for us.
Hacking. Stealing and physically manipulating information, including social security/identity theft. A very large part of my daily job is to thwart/stop stealing and hacking via the internet. Maybe that’s why I see the extreme danger of not taking action when the red lights are flashing and the alarms are ringing ( see : 9/11 ). I’ve seen my company’s entire telecoms hijacked and mirrored in a matter of hours ( from somewhere in the Ukraine ) and it was a Herculean effort to regain control of our system. It’s a never ending battle. We’re spoofed, phished and probed constantly daily.… Read more »
….. People eat it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVzwqqdbocU
https://www.scoop.it/t/psyche-soul-culture-and-civilization/p/4083935939/2017/08/30/psychologist-erich-neumann-designated-heir-to-the-great-carl-jung
http://e-jungian.com/jung-film-interview-c-g-jung-dr-richard-evans/
OBIT,
The left gained control of the teachers’ colleges long ago, which means that they have been indoctrinating teachers for decades with leftist groupthink.
“Did Russian ads have that much of an influence on USA elections?”
Very little. The amount spent was a drop in the bucket. I’ve sat in on conferences with Facebook and Google and it’s almost a joke the amount of hype given to this when you analyze the ad spend compared to the gross spend for all media on the entire election.
OBIT:
You’re spot on. I didn’t have time earlier to elaborate like you did so I’ll just give you a +1.
The internet, as Blax says, is highly vulnerable and people are asking for trouble in many aspects of life. But one thing that has saved our elections is that the election system — the actual voting and the voter rolls — is very decentralized and not really internet based. I work for my county’s board of elections both at the polling place and at headquarters so I see how fragmented and low-tech things are. There are databases but they’re not tied into anything. Fraud is low-tech and would have to be mostly at the local level or county at the… Read more »
Curiosity question: Can any commenter here besides asd define what ” leftist groupthink ” is irl? Sorry, I know this stuff turns people off, but I’m commuted to calling it out as I’ve challenged large numbers of people to do so as well. So what is leftist groupthink and where is it concentrated? Who, specifically, are these ” leftist “? Just a question. This type of thing is floated randomly and it just stands always unquestioned. Is that because it’s not worth challenging, or is it better ignored? For the record, I see a lot of ” wrongness ” out… Read more »
Red pill, right?😂😂😂
@Blax
Trying to explain leftist groupthink to a leftist is like trying to explain water to a fish.
Here’s the no. 1 site for leftist groupthink…
https://www.thenation.com/
If you use your eyes, you can draw correlations between articles on this site and events in the news.
Quiet. I’m not asking you anything. Your response is predictable. Always.😂
I’m asking to hear from more rational and reasonably realistic readers for their opinions.
I can’t learn shit from you, but maybe someone else can help me see what I’m missing ( or not missing ).
Also, good thing I don’t live life by reading shit.
Maybe that’s why the belief of the all powerful leftists is so strong. Too much reading of propaganda and less life experiences.
Anyone?
The crux of blue pill subjegative mindset.
@foxguy – I’d be interested in hearing more. It’s a minor side interest of mine but I do some reading in the area and have begun building some skills that will be useful in the long term…I think complete collapse is pretty unlikely in our lifetimes, but always good to have something to teach future kids.. Have you read some of the decline writings by a guy called John Michael Greer? Some general thoughts which are in line with what you said: Obviously we can’t know the future for certain since history never repeats exactly but it is a useful… Read more »
Blax, there’s nothing magical about “leftist groupthink”. “Groupthink” is a well-understood and common phenomenon (the classic example is McNamara/Defense and the mess they made of the Vietnam war but there are many more). It’s important – but takes a lot of effort and few people try – to try and combat the tendency to groupthink (we all have it) by seeking out opinions and perspectives different from your own and trying to apply their ideas and trying to falsify your own ideas and convictions by testing them against reality and other ideas (like you went out and talked to girls… Read more »
Culum
Yup. History, real history, is a wonderful thing full of essential lessons. America is following the Roman path, so it’s hard to imagine a different outcome eventually.
‘It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.’ — Yogi Berra
There was a time back in the ’20s when communism was cool. Then the Cold War and Korean War happened and news came out about Stalin’s murder of millions of Russians, so communism was no longer cool. So the roaches scurried out from the communist rock and under the liberal rock. Then Reagan came along and pilloried liberals with humor and it was no longer cool to be a liberal. So the roaches scurried from under the liberal rock to the progressive rock. But it’s kind of funny. All these rocks look pretty much the same. Leftists are a conglomeration/coalition… Read more »
Culum
That’s a major portion of my point.
If groupthink hampers development and understanding, the a man needs to step outside the ” group “.
You might be proven wrong, or you might be proven right, but he r you just blindly accept what ” my group ” espouses, you’ll miss the big picture and the opportunity to learn.
And that removes all *magic*. Propaganda becomes solely a collection of words with little proven meaning.
Kkk…..😑
“Can any commenter here besides asd define what ” leftist groupthink ” is irl?” Defining “leftist” starts becoming a problem by the mid 1800s. In the 1920s, the Golden Age of Socialism, it became entirely divorced from its original meaning and it’s only gotten worse since then. And, as I have noted before, in the context of American politics it never had any meaning, as the US was innately leftist from its founding principles. “Left” means pro-secular republicanism. I do, however, know totalitarianism when I see it, and I see both the “right” (which means pro Church and King) and… Read more »
Blax, if you ask me where the sun rises, I’ll predictably tell you “East”. But I’m sure that more rational readers will come up better answers. GFY, lol “Leftist groupthink” isn’t some magical special kind of groupthink that no one else is subject to. Go read “1984.” Blax is denying that there’s anything Orwellian going on at the same time that he says that the elites run everything. He has the incredible ability to believe 16 opposite things before breakfast! Basically as there’s less wealth and resources to spread around, things will start to get cut Fuck, there are more… Read more »
Totalitarianism.
Yes.
…. Actually, the sun doesn’t ” rise “.
That’s so 1600’s.
Financial difficulties will come from fiat currency and the attendant debt thereof…
Jesus Christ😁
What color is the sky in your world?
“Financial difficulties will come because of brittle things, like CDOs.”
Exactly. And all the world’s currencies have been converted into CDOs. Only without anywhere near sufficient C to cover the DO.
Deregulation= hold on to your nuts.
And, as I have noted before, in the context of American politics it never had any meaning, as the US was innately leftist from its founding principles. “Left” means pro-secular republicanism. Only if you’ve eaten shrooms. The left has consistently pushed issues that are anti-family, anti-church, and anti-capitalism, like they continually wrote about for centuries. (But keep eating those shrooms.) If you think that you can “step outside” of some group, and somehow ignore them and this will make them go away, then they’ll pass laws like VAWA and fuck you over. They’ll run #metoo campaigns and try to take… Read more »
…. Actually, the sun doesn’t ” rise “.
That’s so 1600’s.
Maybe you should read Einstein. But you’re right, my own eyes tell me that the sun rises and I shouldn’t believe my eyes.
I never said men should ignore anything.ignorance is a huge part of the problem.
kfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mndlk0qbIbE
Man of Actions above observations
SPLC = Southern Poverty Law Center, not “Southern Poverty Leadership Conference”
lol
( insert picture of sun being orbited by planets, you know, the one from kindergarten..)
Groupthink happens when any workplace or profession reaches some tipping point where people who don’t follow the default position either feel it’s wise to keep their mouths shut or just go somewhere else. Even the liberal Politico website admits The Media Bubble is Worse Than You Think. Only 7 percent of journalists identify as Republican, and our sources of news and comment are becoming increasingly concentrated on the East and West Coasts. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/25/media-bubble-real-journalism-jobs-east-coast-215048 But it’s not just political, it’s people being people. As I mentioned, journalists are focused on being popular and respected among their peers, not voicing any view… Read more »
That’s right, Blax, believe what you are taught, not what you see.
Lmao.
Groupthink occurs whenever some narrative is pushed loudly and critical voices are suppressed thru mockery and other forms of coercion.
“The left has consistently pushed issues that are anti-family, anti-church, and anti-capitalism, like they continually wrote about for centuries.” I have read the discourse going back to Hammurabi’s Code. I habitually walk around with much of it, in readable form, contained in my shirt pocket (I have mentioned before that I have shirts with a “Kindle” pocket hidden behind the patch pocket). There was nothing called the political “Left” or “Right” before the late 1700s. The human behaviours that are the foundation for them predate humans and are observable in other animals. The fundamental division is between the collective and… Read more »
Which part of the Goddess movement are y’all discussing, again?
Just asking.
That’s right, Blax, believe what you are taught, not what you see.
The earth is flat then, right?
Self truth and internal meditation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD0od-kEClg
When your alone and you must lead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ds9y3lJGig
Light and Movements
“Groupthink occurs whenever some narrative is pushed loudly and critical voices are suppressed thru mockery and other forms of coercion.”
Thank you for stipulating that point. Now read up on the Thirty Years War.
“Which part of the Goddess movement are y’all discussing, again?”
Collectivism vs. Individualism. The Goddess movement sees itself as “Holistic,” and sees The Patriarchy as “Reductionist.”
There was nothing called the political “Left” or “Right” before the late 1700s. Those terms came into being at the time of the French Revolution, but the ideas were active long before the late 1700s. Robert Owen was among the first British socialists, I believe. The other British (and American, later) socialists built on Owen’s work. I had a real Western Civ course that covered Owen and the revolutions of 1848. A company is a collective, generally; since capitalism requires companies, capitalism is collectivism. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848 Over 50 countries were affected, but with no coordination or cooperation among their respective revolutionaries.… Read more »
@kfg
Would that be collectivist individualism or individualist individualism, and how do these Goddess girls define “holistic”?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xmRWj7gJEU
Can a goddess avoid death?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_goddesses
And the Goddess Movement aka the FI is strengthening its hold on the media. A lot of reporting reflects this orientation and is aimed at getting more females on board.
That’s right, Blax, believe what you are taught, not what you see.
The earth is flat then, right?
Using a spyglass, I can see ships disappearing on the horizon. Presumably, they fall off the edge of the world. How they get back up, I have no idea. hehe
(My perspective is definitely limited as much as anybody’s.)
I’m only defending my claim that I see the sun rise in the east. I’m making no claim about the earth being flat.
There are pics, taken from space, supported by eyewitness testimony, which show the earth to be ellipsoidal.