The Goddess Movement

Six years ago I wrote a post outlining what the PUA community referred to then as “Chick Crack“. It was a pretty straight forward post that I delved into just to explain why playing to women’s propensity to believe in the spiritual – or what women would consider spiritual – is an effective technique in Game. I always thought it was funny how accurate this presumption about women was when I came across it.

Of all the strippers I’d ‘dated’ in the past every one subscribed to some form of non-mainstream spiritualism. This girl Angie I used to bang kept Tarot cards in her pink lady’s devotional Bible, another professed to be a psychic; in fact the only people I’ve ever known who self-seriously wanted me to believe they were in fact psychic were all women.

[…] For the stripper set this seems to be par for the course, but I wish I could say this chick-crack phenomenon was limited to just women who had some vacuous spiritual/emotional hole in their lives to fill. No, all women (yes I said all) are predisposed to the intrigue that metaphysical imaginings sparks in them. If it smacks of secret, covert knowledge, privy only to a chosen few, then you’ve got an attentive listener in a woman. UFOs, palm reading (always a classic), psychic premonition, ‘gifts of prophecy’, really anything that hints at knowledge beyond the ordinary is fair game. Chick Crack is not just limited to off-brand spiritualisms either, you’ll find that far more women than men will develop (conveniently) an affinity for, and are more invested in, religion than men.

In the wake of the Anthony Bourdain “suicide“, and the scramble to absolve Asia Argento of any complicity in his decision to hang himself, I came across this post about Asia’s penchant for Witchcraft. Apparently Wicca is somewhat more than a hobby for her. As you look at these pictures it’s important to remember that this is a 42 year old woman (and her friends) who sincerely believes in this stuff.

In Chick Crack I also made reference as to why I believe women’s being predisposed to beliefs in the supernatural is a desire for secret power from an innate position of female powerlessness.

Feminine Mythology

Women’s natural pull towards the mysterious and metaphysical has its roots in the sex’s historical characterizations. In keeping with the very useful associations of women’s unknowability and feminine mystique, it’s perhaps unsurprising that we find most mythologized representations of women and femininity cast as brooding, fickle, rapacious and often as a temptress, possessing secret knowledge that foolish men (the mere mortals) are neither capable of, nor encouraged to understand. Sometimes childlike, often conveniently eroticized, women are literally cast as forces of nature – whether sexualized nymphs or tempestuous witches, each characterization relies on women possessing some form of secret or forbidden connection to the metaphysical. Even the commanding presence of Joan of Arc, while leading the armies of France, had a connection to something otherworldly. By their very nature, feminine mythology, by default, presumes women are more in tune with the nature of reality, while surpassing the ignorance of brutish men.

Women revel in their mythology. Since covert forms of communication are the preferred language of women, their affinity for secret information is a natural fit. Ever wonder why gossip seems to be uniquely endemic to women? Look no further than women’s innate impulse to acquire secret knowledge. Take away the Vampires and Werewolves – the metaphysical component – from the Twilight series and what you’re left with is a relatively bland romance novel. Add the otherworldly and you have a runaway hit popular with every female age demographic, from tweens to octogenarians.

In women’s evolutionary past, concealment meant everything. Confusing a man as to the true genetic heritage of his children was often a matter of life or death. Pursuing pluralistic sexual strategies depends upon creating a characterization of women as legitimately unknowable, thus the feminine mystique is instituted. Ergo, the sociological PR campaign over the course of millennia has been to perpetuate the mystery of woman.

From an evolutionary perspective it makes sense that physically weaker tribal women would seek some sort of mastery over the men in their lives who could punish or kill them and their offspring at will. As I’ve covered in many essays, women are biologically and psychologically more attuned to deeper communication and the emotive states of other people. Women have a far greater capacity to understand subcommunications and subcommunicate themselves among their own sex. This is borne out by multiple brain scan studies and research on the architecture of men and women’s brains.

To the blunt, overt, relatively nuance-less interpretive processes of men this subcommunication can be both frustrating and mysterious. It’s the mysterious part that women learned to reinforce and exploit in their dealings with men long ago. This is where we get the idea of the seductress or the ‘keeper of mysterious secrets’ archetype (witch, midwife, nature goddess) for women. It’s less important that women would actually be more in tune with the supernatural, but rather it’s more important that they believe it’s a general truth about all women. Men might be skeptical, or they may buy into that mystique, revere it and encourage other men to believe something similar. Usually how a man adopts or rejects that archetype is determined by his own self-understanding and his Game according to it and his sexual market value.

There are a lot of derivative character archetypes that stem from the basic ‘mysterious woman’ root. That might be anything from a healer, nurturer, mother type rooted in what used to be the mystery of women’s life-giving capacity, to the force of nature sorceress, to the eroticized sexual seductress (nymph, siren) or even the high-priestess of the holy temple of prostitution (an ancient brothel madame). Over the course of history, since our hunter-gatherer beginnings, this means to influence and power for women has coalesced into what we popularly imagine about women’s mysterious nature. Only today we call it a ‘woman’s intuition’ and we make appeals to fortune and fate when a guy get’s “lucky” and a woman favors him with her sexuality. It’s all socialized solutions to evolutionary problems, but if we add an element of ‘magic’ to the equation it makes explaining failures and appreciating successes that much easier.

Today, the belief in this nature is still very much reinforced in society. Thus, we get women subscribing to what amounts to a collective pathology – they are encouraged to believe in their ‘magical’ sensitivities to spirits and forces beyond the sensitivities of (ostensibly) “powerful” men. To fight the mythological Patriarchy women rely on a mythological tool. In Chick Crack I made mention of a stripper I used to have as a friend-with-benefits who was very attuned to the “spirit world”. As such the whole gamut of the supernatural was free game for her to use. She’d read my Tarot cards, my palm, throw in some eastern mysticism and wash it all down with a read through her pink ladies’ devotional Bible. Granted, ‘Angie‘ was an extreme case, but all women are in someway, or say they are in someway, privy to metaphysical understandings which men are not. And today we read and listen to male leaders in mainstream religions adopt and parrot back this “women are closer to God than men” mantra which is directly linked to the ‘spiritual women’ mystique.

The old trope of a Woman’s Intuition is an example of this belief in something beyond the ken of men. And this is also an important aspect of boys’ Blue Pill conditioning – girls/women possess some unearthly connection to God or something supernatural which further cements the idea that they should to defer authority to girls and women if they want to “please God the Goddess”. You might think this hard to believe in our age of technology, but only the context of the supernatural has shifted. Even the most objectively rational boys and men strongly believe in the ‘soul mate myth despite atheism or agnosticism. This belief of the faithless is directly related to the unknowability of the female. Even modern atheists have a tendency to fall prey to the “someone for everyone” religion when it comes to connecting with the opposite sex.

It’s my belief that this presumption of a greater sensitivity to the supernatural is an aspect of women’s evolved mental firmware. Regardless of how false it may be, a woman with the disposition to encourage men to believe that she has some otherworldly connection despite the world or circumstances around them, one that would lead men to venerate her in the long term, would’ve been a powerful social adaptation in ensuring her and her children’s security. No doubt women readers will trot out the reflexive “Well men have been shamans and soothsayers and the patriarchal leaders of churches too”, and this is true, but those men lacked the female elemental advantage in their believability. Even their own belief sets encompassed the ‘spiritual woman’ tropes for better or worse. The wise old wizard is definitely an archetype, but that wizard lacks the feminine mystique and the sexual components only women possess in exercising that power.

Modern Witchcraft

Today we see a distinct falling away from the old order of acknowledging the supernatural. Less and less people subscribe to religion in its conventional sense. The Millennial generation wants nothing to do with “organized religion”, yet they still seek the structure to life it used to provide. So instead we hear the compromise about being “spiritual, but not religious” as if accepting the possibility of the metaphysical is something expected, but the taint of the “religious” is left for older generations. Even in what passes for contemporary religion the influence of the Feminine Imperative is ever-present. The spiritual, the metaphysical, the religious, all are still useful tools for women to consolidate power with. As men abdicate more authority to the feminine, as they themselves are the products of a continuous social feminization, we see a wholesale handover of the spiritual to the direction of women. The male leadership of mainstream religions is itself compromised with the imperatives and priorities of women who are already presumed to be “more in tune with God or the supernatural”. As such they exercise the Feminine Imperative and assimilate women’s stake on the spiritual by being proxy agents for women’s authority.

Today I was linked a story about how Episcopalians have begun to Remove the Man from their religion. Apparently this marks the beginning of rewriting the doctrine of this religion by erasing all masculine pronouns for God. Of course I expect the predictable retorts that Episcopalians aren’t real Christians, but theirs is just one of the more glaring examples of how the feminization of religion progresses. The latent purpose is a wholesale removal of anything conventionally masculine from religion, and/or placing the feminine as the primary connection with the supernatural. Whether it’s mainstream religion or psychic reading, a woman is at the center of that mysticism. If you want a perspective into the things to come for a female-led mega-religion look no further than the teaching of Rev. Shannon Johnson Kershner (dual surname noted). God is not male is the clarion call of the priestesses (and their male ‘ally’ priests) of this new religion.

Why should we view God as female? Well, it’s so that little girls can become pastors, with Kershner saying, ““I wanted to make sure that little girls knew that God could call them to be pastors, too.”

For the MeToo / Time’s Up generation God is female, the supernatural is more aligned with the feminine. I’ve made this observation before (before the #MeToo moral panic arrived) but there’s been a growing push on the part of men to relinquish any spiritual authority from a masculine perspective for decades now. The largely secular impetus of the MeToo movement is now finding its way into a religious environment that has been primed and ready for it (largely due to its acquiescing, complicit, and thoroughly Blue Pill male leadership) for a long time. MeToo was a natural fit for a feminine-primary church that needed its push to consolidate power even in the most patriarchal of religions. MeToo has given women license to finally be overt in their design on religion and spirituality – not unlike Open Hypergamy has been embraced in the mainstream.

In celebration of this conversion of religion to feminine-primacy we get the feminist Beyoncé “worship” services in formerly traditional cathedrals. Millennials may be falling away from the old church, but they fill the new church to overflow-capacity when ‘god’ is female.

The take home message for this essay is this; womankind has been intimately aware of the complicity of men in granting them a default connection to the supernatural. While we may not profess a formal belief in such, men are eager to accommodate female power in this arena – especially if in doing so it endears women to the men who play along with it. Professing a belief in the supernatural is simply good Game. The early PUAs picked up on this and used it to their advantage. However, this abdication of moral authority – an authority founded in masculine pretenses – goes far beyond getting your palm read by an earthy stripper you want to bang. This compromising of moral authority to the feminine by men is just the next phase in conceding all social and political authority to the Feminine Imperative. If God or a ‘higher power’ is the foundation of moral authority, and women are universally presumed to be more in touch with that higher power, the next step is to cede that authority to the sex that has a more direct line to that power.

What prompted me to consider writing this essay was a link I was sent in response to the story about Asia Argento’s involvement in modern day Wicca. I listened to a bit of a podcast by Vox Day recently in which he was asked his thoughts about modern paganism. He said, and I paraphrase, “Paganism today is just kids LARPing to the idea of old world religions. They’re role playing something akin to Dungeons and Dragons with no real belief.” I thought this was interesting in light of the article I was sent on Neo-Paganism and the Feminist Spirituality Movement:

However, some women were not willing to identify themselves as “witches”, and there arose a form of Goddess worship without any of the trappings of witchcraft. As Nevill Drury explains, “Although some Goddess-worshippers continued to refer to themselves as witches, others abandoned the term altogether, preferring to regard their neopagan practice as a universal feminist religion, drawing on mythologies from many different ancient cultures.” This has been called “Goddess worship” and the “Goddess movement”. These terms are frequently used interchangeably with, but should be distinguished from, “feminist spirituality”, which includes the Goddess movement, but also feminist Christianity, feminist Judaism, etc.

[…]

The principal beliefs of the Goddess movement are that the Goddess is a radically immanent deity and she can be experienced directly. The Earth is seen as the body of the Goddess and women are understood to connect to the Goddess through their experience of their own bodies, as well as the “body” of the earth. Goddess feminists also believe that the Goddess is constantly changing, manifest in the changing of the seasons and the human life-cycle, and perpetually self-renewed.

The Goddess movement offers women a new self-image and facilitates women finding their own innate goodness and natural divinity. It enables women to redeem and revalue the “feminine principle” and offers them positive images and symbols of female empowerment.

It may seem easy to dismiss the influence of the feminine on what is re-evolving into a new feminine-world order of spirituality, but I think it would be foolish dismiss the influences of the Feminine Imperative – the Goddess Movement – that is manifesting itself incrementally in the power vacuum left by the abdication of masculine moral authority to the feminine. We read that Millennials may not be “as religious” as previous generations, but that doesn’t mean they don’t seek out ‘spiritual, but not religious’ metaphysical connections. They seek direction, and connection in religion, but they seek it in the secular, gynocentric terms they’ve been conditioned to believe they should define themselves by. A similar parallel exists on the masculine side too. One of the reasons for Jordan Peterson’s popularity is his ‘ministering’ to a generation of “lost boys” seeking direction in life. He is every bit one of the Lords of the New Church in the same way that the Goddess Movement speaks to another demographic of lost souls who seek absolution in the “divine feminine” – also a term Peterson is fond of.

565 comments

  1. Women are shortcutters…just like men. It take effort to compete and win. Few women can play that game of hardwork and logic. Sometimes to win, you have to “redefine” the game. I don’t believe that women can say to a man directly ” I’m stronger, smarter, or whatever than you…”

    They have to have a different approach. I’m sure witchcraft or whatever we want to call it is another form of testing by women. There are some men that want a woman, fundamentally, for escapism. They have this dream girl/woman in their mind and a woman comes along that fits it and they make a move. I believe the test assesses a man’s mental capacity or his intentions. It’s not good or bad but another test.

    I don’t subscribe to the notion that one sex is stronger or weaker than the other. Smart women continue and WILL ALWAYS be able to navigate freely in our so called male dominated world because they understand their Unique Value Proposition (UVP). This is why the feminism movement is a fraud because on the UVP women benefit and the rest are just expendable soldiers.

    Going back further, I remember in college reading about brain chemistry and research pointed that women between 15-25 had superior mental capabilities for reading and memorization that exceeded men because of the density of their brain mass due to having more connections.

  2. A former flatmate of mine, who is probably the most supplicating, faux-spiritual and sad excuse for a man dressed up as a new-age yoga guru, is about to be a father. I’ve seen his social media feed filled with such trumped bullshit surrounding his gravid partner as ‘when I behold the Divine femine I bow to her grace.’ You could not make this shit up and it’s almost offensive and certainly cringeworthy. Another super liberal former-friend just paid for his wife to fly to Scotland for a woman’s spiritual retreat. Add this to the legion of eat, pray, love, chakra-balancing yoga chicks (including a girl I know who runs womb yoga sex witch workshops) who postulate as being holier than all and oh so in touch with the metaphysical, and I’d say you are once again on the money.

    Meanwhile it’s the real men who maintain the sewers and keep the lights on. Once all social and political power is relinquished and men are naught but serfs and women worshipped, will we realise we’ve been asleep at the wheel….shortly before the inevitable collpase.

  3. Love your work, but I don’t get the sense from this article that you have read too deeply into what the term “archetype” implies. If you are indeed invoking Carl Jung, so it’s important to realize how the archetypes bear strong psychic energy from the collective unconscious when “constellated” by an individual or a culture. Our culture is indeed in the middle of re-constellating various feminine archetypes that were broken up and suppressed under masculine-oriented religions. Examining this with an open mind, will, I expect, bring some worthwhile insights, to expand and sharpen your important work about the masculine and feminine ways of being. In this context I would particularly recommend the book “The Sacred Prostitute” by Qualls-Corbett. Respectfully yours,
    Owl
    PS: I recently sent some of your writing to a Dakini, a respected woman teacher of Tantra (and a manner of “priestess” of the goddess religion as well), and she had no objection to what she read, about Game, feminism, other things. You may have allies in unexpected places, Mr. Tomassi. Keep an open mind.

  4. “It’s my belief that this presumption of a greater sensitivity to the supernatural is an aspect of women’s evolved mental firmware. Regardless of how false it may be, a woman with the disposition to encourage men to believe that she has some otherworldly connection despite the world or circumstances around them, one that would lead men to venerate her in the long term, would’ve been a powerful social adaptation in ensuring her and her children’s security. No doubt women readers will trot out the reflexive “Well men have been shamans and soothsayers and the patriarchal leaders of churches too”, and this is true, but those men lacked the female elemental advantage in their believability. Even their own belief sets encompassed the ‘spiritual woman’ tropes for better or worse. The wise old wizard is definitely an archetype, but that wizard lacks the feminine mystique and the sexual components only women possess in exercising that power.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXxrHDKpbkc
    “In celebration of this conversion of religion to feminine-primacy we get the feminist Beyoncé “worship” services in formerly traditional cathedrals. Millennials may be falling away from the old church, but they fill the new church to overflow-capacity when ‘god’ is female.”

    “It may seem easy to dismiss the influence of the feminine on what is re-evolving into a new feminine-world order of spirituality, but I think it would be foolish dismiss the influences of the Feminine Imperative – the Goddess Movement – that is manifesting itself incrementally in the power vacuum left by the abdication of masculine moral authority to the feminine. We read that Millennials may not be “as religious” as previous generations, but that doesn’t mean they don’t seek out ‘spiritual, but not religious’ metaphysical connections. They seek direction, and connection in religion, but they seek it in the secular, gynocentric terms they’ve been conditioned to believe they should define themselves by. A similar parallel exists on the masculine side too. One of the reasons for Jordan Peterson’s popularity is his ‘ministering’ to a generation of “lost boys” seeking direction in life. He is every bit one of the Lords of the New Church in the same way that the Goddess Movement speaks to another demographic of lost souls who seek absolution in the “divine feminine” – also a term Peterson is fond of.”

  5. Killjoy,

    I want to add to your comments from your statement.

    1. Beliefs are powerful.
    2. Work is work…

    This is a serious reply so please don’t think I’m picking apart your stuff.

    I’ve seen some men who roll with the waves and actually benefit from the “feminist stuff”
    If this guy has all this money to start flying his wife around to pursue “her goals” I’m sure he’s fucking another woman/women while she’s gone. Women just like men can get so into whatever their doing that if they can become blind to the obvious. This is the power of satisfying a stated desire. Women have used this tactic on men for years and I’m thrilled to see another man using it on his wife to keep her shackled. As long as she keeps chasing her dreams, he’ll be in control.

    The only question I have here is how old the marriage is. If it’s new, he might have a lot invested in having it be successful so he’s laying a foundation. On the other hand, he might have been married for 7+ years and just lost interest and just wants her out of the house. 3 day weekends recharge all parties involved, lol!

    Moving along, this quote…let’s talk about it. “Meanwhile it’s the real men who maintain the sewers and keep the lights on.”

    Work is work and it will always be there. You can even leave the bag outside and comeback to it later because nobody wants it. Women use men as shields. Don’t lead with phrases like “being a real man.” You are willfully psychologically picking up this baggage and putting yourself in the unwinnable position of having to solve all the problems. Don’t let your words enslave you. Women look for expressive men with words just like you said to put all the weight on you. They’ll say they want equal but over time it will all shift to you because of “desire” to solve the problems. Just be careful. Do you really want to be the man who maintains the sewers and keeps the lights on? I know you don’t want to with a monkey on your back…

  6. The women are so solipsistic that they feel they can rewrite creation itself. Instead of man being made in God’s image, God is made in woman’s image.
    They have no real belief in their religion, otherwise this would be incredibly blasphemous and tantamount to worshiping false idols. The fact that they are willing to go to this extent is insane. If their willingness to rewrite religion doesn’t show everyone how dangerous feminist thought is, I don’t know what will.

  7. Wow Rollo

    Even my wife said “Oh my God”.

    What I find interesting today as Trumps campaign points out that higher education is more about indoctrination than education ,the male college grads I know like to label me as secular or even secular humanist.

    In particular I know a retired (still very blue pill) lutheran minister,progressive that doesn’t believe in separation of church and and state ,rather he believes the church should be running the country. While he is handing the keys over to the feminists.

    Doh!

  8. Note that the shaman, wizard, or patriarch has power because of what he has presumably learned, experienced, or in other ways worked to accomplish, but the witch obtains her power just by being a witch. No assembly required.

  9. Thing is – if you “feel” witchcraft you can tell what others are thinking and feel them at a distance. I have bee telling the wife what she is thinking for 40 years. She has never told me I’m wrong. She is not a shrinking violet.

    It is not mumbo jumbo. It can be taught. I have taught my wife.

    You have to quiet your system. Which allows you to pay attention.

  10. We are energy fields passing through other energy fields. There is nothing more.

  11. ” . . . their willingness to rewrite religion . . .”

    They are not rewriting religion. They are writing it. Pulling it out of their arse and making it up as they go along.

    They almost invariably claim some ancient lineage, but that lineage is almost invariably from a religion that has been dead for a thousand or more years and left little to no literature of its own (the Kelts, for instance, believed that fixing the Mysteries in writing was a sacrilege, so there was no literature to leave in the first place).

  12. Soon when bluepill religious leaders manage to combine church and state after turning the church over to feminists, M Simons wife will rule the world according to what he believes she is thinking through his powers of wica.

    Bwah haa bwaa hahaaaaaaaaaa

  13. It might be time for you to read the Bible and get to know the truth. You are a smart guy, get smarter: read the book of New Testament. Start with Mark or John. Ask God to show you the truth, and it will change your life in a way that you can’t conceive of now.
    Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.

  14. Interesting, Owl… I’m sure you’ll get reamed by our resident trolls and some others. I can’t say I have a real clue about that which you speak, but I do value an open mind so I’ll take a look at your book.. Provocative title, if nothing else.

  15. I was reading along and trying to formulate some Red Pill contribution until I got to the last two sentences. And then, I’m like WTF?, conflating Jordan Peterson on the male side with the Chick Crack on the female side.

    I call bullshit on that.

    I’m not sure what to say about the bulk of the OP in regards to the Goddess Movement. What I do know is that the antidote to the problem is: Get a Fucking Guy Tribe. Talk, give each other your problems (field reports), trust, verify, be skilled at not being such a lazy fuck as to be a taker, not a giver in a tribe of men. There is a reason why Honor among men is a tactical virtue.

    Chick Crack and the Goddess Movement are no different than Open Hypergamy. It’s not bad stuff. Shit-Fitness Tests too. They are fixtures. There not there to merely pass. They are presented to you to use them to your advantage. Do so.

    The last minute diss on Jordan Peterson is disingenuous. Listen, the guy is Blue Pill, he’s been depressive (depressed) all his life (genetically). (He’s never been in a state of Happiness or Satisfaction, ever.) So fucking what? He tries. He rode a wave that others have that is new tech: Use YouTube to ride a wave. Without having clarity on how that will work. The audience is out there.

    There is shitload of lost boys out there and they have needs, they have desires and they need guidance.

    My son and his contemporaries are not lost boys, but occaisionally they get adrift. (My son less so than others–he has his eye on the ball and gets it, and has agency.

    You can’t tell me that Intellectualism in Modern Times isn’t valuable. It is dangerous to be in that realm. To overthink things, to have desire without Action. To sit in the library and consume without Acting. But to have a way to phrase things, to have a way for lost boys, semi-lost boys and not so lost striving boys is where Jordan Peterson leads.

    He’s a depressive nihilist who openly espouses the malevolence in the world. The FI and the Asia Argento, Hillary Clinton, Maxine Waters and all the Feminine Spirits like them are malevolent against the Male Imperative. There is a trap there, that the OP well addresses.

    The trick is: What solutions are there? You can criticize Jordan Peterson all you care to, but he is ground Zero for making guys like Rugby and Softek and Hank Holliday not be so ineffective in real time and going forward. The opposite of having low IQ, Social, Masculine, and Intellectual, is to use Intellectualism to advantage for a Masculine way of life. To learn, to study, to read ancient (before modern noise, internet, and social media shit) wisdom. To have masculine presence, have masculine tactical virtues, to recognize feminine solipsism and to prevail with an attractive male personna. To go forth and be desirable as a man. It’s not such a mystery to do so with the advent of the manosphere and the wisdom of Rollo. It does take getting off your ass and not being lazy. It takes understanding your purpose and mission and living out to your edge of your abilities.

  16. Women are the first to talk about fate, destiny and “the one” all this supernatural I was in the stars drivel..:to convince a man of their loyalty and devotion.

    Women are the first to say the feelings gone and bang the pool boy…

  17. Women are the first to push forward a super natural “it was fate” narrative and the first suddenly say “the feeling’s” gone…

  18. @SJF

    “Jordan Peterson is disingenuous. Listen, the guy is Blue Pill, he’s been depressive (depressed) all his life (genetically). (He’s never been in a state of Happiness or Satisfaction, ever.) So fucking what?”

    I’ve said before that I think the guy is very close to cracking. He’s getting to a point where he will be forced to confront his demons and it won’t be pretty.

    Though he is blue pill has been very good for the movement but if he goes nuts he’ll leave a void and also an excuse for the FI to say “yeah we knew he was a lunatic – honey take out the trash will you”

  19. I’ve gotten a little into the occult stuff, nothing serious just what you would find in a decently sized library. After it settles in your mind, it’s pretty obvious how insignificant it is. It matters about as much as a dead hashtag.

    All the same, it seems to have a grip on my sister. It does unsettle your mind if you can’t put it into context. And women are terrible at context because they never do any real work.

    It’s all delusion, the only question is if you can get other people to buy into it.

  20. Back in my dating days one of my most successful lines was to do with meditation. If the pick-up wasn’t getting anywhere then I’d just roll out the fact that I was into meditation. (I actually was for a time which meant I knew what I was talking about).

    It was incredible how many successful pick-ups turned on that one line. It was also astounding as to how many women knew something about meditation. The inevitable response to that line was a challenge so as to ascertain if I had any actual knowledge or if I was bullshitting. Since I knew my stuff it was a very simple test to pass. And at that point the floodgates were open, metaphorically speaking.

    In the mid-90s I worked as an assistant to the most popular male “new-age” speaker in Australia. His extremely popular workshops were dominated by women; I’d say the ratio was something like 10 to 1. Most of the women were in their 40s but there were a good number of younger ones as well. More and more he would tailor his workshops to his audience, in other words the chicks. He began talking about “the power of the feminine” and “the mystique of the feminine” and other idiotic tropes. They just lapped it up. You’d see one woman come to a weekend course, and 6 weeks later when my boss returned to her city the same woman would be back with half a dozen of her friends. Chick crack is an extremely accurate label for this behavior.

  21. I can’t tell you the number of educated and accomplished women I’ve met who will slyley ask “what’s your birthday” and then say, “oh, you’re a Taurus, blah, blah, blah”, or even scarier, the ones who ask your birthday and then silently start doing mental calculations about the “secret” knowledge they have on you while continuing the conversation.  

  22. There are many aspects to feminine energy and the feminine spirit. Women can be a number of characters in one, mother, lover, daughter, bitch, and also a goddess. Feminine energy is constantly flowing and ever changing based on the moment. I enjoy the lover and goddess element of feminity and its very pleasurable to see a woman in her elment when shes in such a state. But every woman also will yield to the dominant masculine male, including the goddess, in fact she needs it the most.
    My perspective, enjoy the goddess in your woman, but never abdicate the masculine leadership that she needs from her man, then she will always be your bitch, and your goddess in one.

    Feminine energy is beautiful, but it needs to be harnessed, then its game on.

  23. Further note: being quiet and paying attention to all the available signals is quite helpful for Game. Most systems have methods for getting your internals quiet. I rather like the one described in “The Fourth Way” by Ouspensky. There are others.

  24. It has been almost forty years since I read Ouspensky’s esoteric 4th Way. Strong work Tomassi, keep it Rolling… As you said at fifty, this has become your life’s work.

  25. @Rollo, this is one of your most subtle posts. Well done.

    They seek direction, and connection in religion, but they seek it in the secular, gynocentric terms they’ve been conditioned to believe they should define themselves by.

    Before this statement of yours, I’d never thought about how the CLAMs (Communists and Liberals in Academia and Media) try to brainwash young skulls full of mush into accepting secularism. Secularism is the con (which I’m sure Blax saw long ago, ht)…and this includes not only practical atheism, but its mythology, which includes The Great Evolution Story ™. (One can accept evolutionary elements having small, demonstrable effects in the short term without buying into TGES.) I bought in big time to TGES when I was much younger–a product of secular brainwashing. It was only when I was over 20 that I took a hard look at TGES after a chemist suggested I read a book questioning TGES.

    So how do we spot the brainwashing? Even when I believed in TGES, (and I say “believed” because I bought into it hook, line, and sinker), I had a major problem accepting arguments based on extrapolation. If we could extrapolate well, we should be able to prognosticate the future, something which humans fail at spectacularly (e.g., Club of Rome predictions). And if we project into the past, how can we check whether our projections are accurate? How can we test them?

    Projections are based on elegance and simplicity, typically. Occam’s Razor. However, reality is typically complex and defies simple solutions. Nancy Cartwright showed how useless Physics Theorems are for accurate solutions of real world problems because they rely on simplicity (“How the Laws of Physics Lie”). Real world solutions require epicycles–I’ve read that NASA engineers do many calculations to plot engine firing to achieve objectives. It’s not like you can accurately calculate exactly a sequence of engine firings in advance…things are always just a little off. Real world complexity.

    So, one of the hallmarks of a con in science is simplicity. An easy solution. Not too much work required. Easy money. A pretence of knowledge. The Blue Pill of Science. Beware Simplicity. It’s one of the hallmarks of a con, whether science or finance or a plumbing job. The Red Pill says that Reality is Complex. Anything worth doing is hard.

  26. Jordan Petersen is a warlock.

    or whorelock…he gets some things right and others wrong…he has his own con going, but likely he has conned himself

  27. To learn, to study, to read ancient (before modern noise, internet, and social media shit) wisdom.

    This was one of my big problems with YaReally. He was selling The Easy Way ™. Cliff Notes. Just another con job.

  28. M.Simon: “It is not mumbo jumbo. It can be taught.

    KFG:”They are not rewriting religion. They are writing it. Pulling it out of their arse and making it up as they go along.”

    Chick Crack is chick crack. Mumbo Jumbo is mumbo jumbo.

    Put in this perspective by Gad Saad, evolutionary psychologist:

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/homo-consumericus/201410/new-age-gurus-dispensers-nonsense

    Gad Saad Ph.D.
    Homo Consumericus

    New Age Gurus: Dispensers of Nonsense
    Compassionate intentionality is the illumination of the cosmic soul.
    Posted Oct 31, 2014

    In chapter 8 of my trade book The Consuming Instinct: What Juicy Burgers, Ferraris, Pornography, and Gift Giving Reveal About Human Nature, I discuss how various hope peddlers are uniquely successful because they cater to our fundamental Darwinian-based insecurities. Religion “grants” us immortality. Medical quacks “solve” intractable health ordeals. Self-help gurus offer us “prescriptions” for every imaginable life challenge. For today’s post, I’d like to briefly discuss a subset genre within the self-help movement: the New Age guru.
    This morning I had the misfortune of catching a two-minute clip of Gary Zukav chatting with Oprah Winfrey. I had never heard of Mr. Zukav until today. I was struck by the astonishing vacuous comments that he was spouting delivered in a guru-like tone of haughty profundity. Of course, there are many other such spiritual “gurus” perhaps none more famous than Deepak Chopra (see my earlier Psychology Today article on the daunting task of choosing between competing spiritual movements). To any person steeped in an ethos of reason, science, and logic, these New Age proclamations are nonsensical gibberish. And yet to millions of people, these men are holders of universal truths that lie below the “vulgar” realm of mere material reality. You see, Chopra, Zukav, and their ilk have access to deeper spiritual truths that plebeian schmucks such as myself can never understand (as was “explained” to me by a Twitter follower).

    In a sense, New Age gurus are akin to postmodernists within academia (see my earlier Psychology Today on the faux-intellectualism of postmodernism). They dispense meaningless drivel that masquerades as profound truths whilst in reality it is a mere exercise in obscurantism. Watch how I can easily become a New Age guru. Given my scientific work in evolutionary psychology and my Middle Eastern background, I am an evolutionary quantum hakim (EQH) and as such I channel cosmic energy using the EQH frequency. Because of my ability to tap into this ancient vibrational field, I have received the following three universal truths:

    1) Compassionate intentionality is the illumination of the cosmic soul.

    2) The transfiguration of cosmic consciousness is the astral oneness.

    3) Harmonic convergence is the quantum energy of biofeedback singularity.

    The prescription for being a New Age guru is the following: 1) Create verbiage that appears profound but that is otherwise meaningless. People will attribute their inability to understand your sentences to their own failings rather than to your charlatanism; 2) Be charismatic and self-confident in your delivery, and perhaps deceive yourself as to the veracity of your words. In the immortal words of George Costanza, one of the central characters of the classic sitcom Seinfeld: “Jerry, just remember, it’s not a lie if you believe it.” See my earlier Psychology Today article on the adaptive roots of self-deception.

    P.S. I generated the latter three sentences randomly but I can assure you that I could easily convince many people that these nonsensical sentences carry infinite and timeless insights.

    As masculine males, we don’t have to throw out the feminine with their own bathwater, we can understand and discriminate between straightforward behaviorism, tribalism and knowledge and facts as we understand them. Females don’t always have the inborn, firmware and hard-wiring for that discriminatory feat.

    Don’t Force the Feminine to Make Decisions

    A man abandons responsibility by expecting that his woman will always make her own decisions and then be accountable for the results. This expectation is a withholding of his masculine gift. It puts a woman in the position of magnifying her own masculine. It is good for some women to learn to animate their masculine capacity to make a decision and stick with it. But if a man abnegates his responsibility to provide his woman with the gift of masculine clarity and decisiveness, then she will become chronically sharp, angular, and distrustful of his love. She will cease surrendering in love with him, cease trusting his masculine capacity, and, instead, become her own man. –Deida

  29. “Jordan Petersen is a warlock.”

    “or whorelock…he gets some things right and others wrong…he has his own con going, but likely he has conned himself”

    Jordan Peterson was originally selling intellectualism at the University of Toronto. Then he decided he could possibly save his own ass by climbing out of a psychological super-depressive state (Depression). He was severely depressed all his life, hence the talk rife with nihilism and malevolence in the world.

    Then as he was fighting a Canadian political war against the free speech law, he was on the vanguard of new technology, namely Youtube and Patreon. And he decided he had nothing to lose and his reputation to defend. Currently he brags about the Intellectual Dark web the same way Trump tries to ferret out the Deep State. And JBP was a pioneer and fell forward into a vein of gold (money) to tap. Most of that was just to redeem himself and dig out of his Depression.

    Currently, what he offers is intellectualism and a whole bunch of ideas. They are not universal rules because most people can’t understand the context or aren’t in an appropriate context for them to be rules for life. They are not rules for life. They are merely ideas to start Ignition for those people trying to get off their ass and develop mastery and talent. (…..Ignition as used by Daniel Coyle in The Talent Code.)

  30. Don’t know about the Goddess movement, but as far as spirituality goes – men invented it. Men’s mental firmware makes them seek freedom in ways that women are not prone to do – which is why more men than women become monks, or go off and live by themselves in austerity or up in the mountains or a cave or what not.

    The distinction between spirituality and religion should be clear here – spirituality is basically a path to ultimate freedom. And you take a look at any spiritual book, apart from a very detailed analysis of the mechanics of life and how things work, you usually find the woman being described as a binding force. Virtually every spiritual author was once a blue pilled guy who got red pilled (and not just wrt women) and admit that while attraction is a very strong force, sooner or later the limitations of a life revolving around a woman do become apparent.

    Spirituality has extended the paradigm that works with women to the entire existence, and there are cultures that are taught to go beyond all Oneitis, even oneitis for this life.

    At which point a man goes off in search of freedom either externally or on the inside, which is where he finds abundance (and his spiritual salvation). And that’s a point that women always have an issue with. A free man is as attractive a prospect as he is an impossible target to capture.

    This is so old that the Buddha himself hesitated to give his formula to women. As my ex once said, she didn’t like Buddha’s way because he had to leave everything to exclusively pursue a goal and exclude his wife out of it. I had to point out that eventually he did include her in it down the road, but she couldn’t digest the fact that Yashodhara had to be left out and thought that he could have reached enlightenment taking her along for the ride.

    Women on the other hand, take very easily to religion, where they can be led and believe in love, devotion and the emotional connection – and there are stories of many women reaching enlightenment through love and devotion. Woman’s need for inclusion is in stark contrast to a man’s need for freedom.

    One reason why goddess worship has existed is also this – it has been recognized since antiquity that the nature of the woman is the nature of the world, which as a corollary means that what’s necessary for a man to deal with the nature of life is also what he needs to deal with a woman. In countries like India, where Goddess worship exists (one of the few cultures that still practices it), the very word ‘Durga’ means a fort – the representation of the driving force behind the material world.

    Speaking of which Rollo, do read the story of Krishna…TRP couldn’t have said it better.

  31. Peterson’s ‘ intellectualism ” isn’t anything special, yet his subject matter peaks much interest.

    I’ve learned nothing New or of worth watching/reading his stuff, but his discourse isn’t aimed at me either. Imo, he gets as much wrong as right while coming up with ” ideas ” . That’s about par for those who like to think more than do.

    Funny, he struck me as a ” depressive ” before I’d ever read that he was. The mind is a powerful thing, depending on where you put your concentrative efforts.

  32. @ SJF very good stuff from this Gad Saad fellow. Especially this bit, I see it all the time..

    “Be charismatic and self-confident in your delivery, and perhaps deceive yourself as to the veracity of your words. In the immortal words of George Costanza, one of the central characters of the classic sitcom Seinfeld: “Jerry, just remember, it’s not a lie if you believe it.”

  33. It’s been interesting, and to be honest, a little annoying to see some of the flack Jordan Peterson gets here. Not that the guy is above reproach or criticism (no one is), but I see misrepresentations of his ideas and work used to attack him, rather than substantive comprehension, and thus criticism, of them.

    This is the same thing the Left wing media does to try and destroy the guy because he is a powerful agent for dismantling their bullshit, including the Feminist worldview we tend to find so egregious and damaging. It is ALSO the same thing the LWM does to attack RP people and concepts, which is pretty ironic.

    First, if you have not watched his Maps of Meaning lecture on Youtube, in it’s entirety, you don’t really understand the man and what he believes and teaches. You really don’t. It’s a time investment, but well worth it. If you are relying on snippets of quotes of him, especially when edited by the Left wing media, you are receiving a distorted and twisted view. Even if you read his 12 Rules book, you are getting only a surface appreciation for the guy’s intellect and ideas.

    Basically, what I sometimes see here is the same kind of superficial dismissal of the man’s work that Rollo and other Red Pill thinkers get from those hostile to the concepts.

    Previously, and correct me if I am wrong, Rollo, you wrote:

    “I read that Dr. Jordan Peterson suggested that a social order based on ‘enforced monogamy’ might be a cure for Incels. I get what he was trying to say, but it’s just one more flippant redirection away from the real causes of this rise in Incels.”

    Peterson was NOT suggesting implementing ‘enforced monogamy’ as a policy for getting rid of inches, and there is nothing flippant, as I understand it, about mentioning the concept. It is apparently a well established concept within academic circles. As Peterson wrote on his blog:

    “It’s been a truism among anthropologists and biologically-oriented psychologists for decades that all human societies face two primary tasks: regulation of female reproduction (so the babies don’t die, you see) and male aggression (so that everyone doesn’t die). The social enforcement of monogamy happens to be an effective means of addressing both issues, as most societies have come to realize (pair-bonded marriages constituting, as they do, a human universal (see the list of human universals here, derived from Donald Brown’s book by that name).

    Here’s something intelligent about the issue, written by antiquark2 on reddit (after the NYT piece appeared and produced its tempest in a tea pot): “Peterson is using well-established anthropological language here: “enforced monogamy” does not mean government-enforced monogamy. “Enforced monogamy” means socially-promoted, culturally-inculcated monogamy, as opposed to genetic monogamy – evolutionarily-dictated monogamy, which does exist in some species (but does not exist in humans). This distinction has been present in anthropological and scientific literature for decades.”

    I do not claim to be well-versed in psychology or the literature, and I know, having read Rollo for years, that he is much better better informed that I in psychology.

    However, I don’t see how Peterson’s reference to the concept of ‘enforced monogamy’ is flippant in the context in which he uses it. It also seems to me that the concept falls in line with many Red Pill principles regarding bio-mechanics and the problems inherent in the emerging primacy of female sexual freedom at the cost of men’s.

    Moving to today’s post, I think the term “divine feminine” is both attributed incorrectly to Peterson as something he is ‘fond of’, and incorrectly interpreted in terms of how HE uses it.

    First, I did a google search for Jordan Peterson and ‘divine feminine’. I was able to come up with ONE hit where he uses that term:

    https://jordanbpeterson.com/philosophy/new-years-letter/

    Perhaps someone can find me more examples, but in this one hit, which is a LONG letter regarding various topics, the term is found once:

    “In the west, starting in the Middle East, thousands of years ago, a new idea began to emerge (evolve is not too strong a word) in the collective imagination. You might, following Dawkins, consider it a meme, although this is far too weak a word. This idea, whose development can be traced back through Egypt to Mesopotamia, before disappearing into unwritten history, is that of the Divine Individual. This eons-old work of the imagination is a dramatic presentation of an emergent idea, which is the solution to how to organize social being without falling prey to nihilistic divisiveness or deceitful totalitarian certainty: The group must unite under the banner of the individual. The individual is the source of the new wisdom that updates the antiquated, nihilistic or totalitarian detritus and glory of the past.

    For better for worse, that idea reaches its apogee in Christianity. The divine individual is masculine because the feminine is not individual: The DIVINE FEMININE is, instead, mother and child. However, it a hallmark of Christian supposition that the redemption of both men and women comes through the masculine, and that is because the masculine is the individual. The central realization – expressed dramatically; symbolically – is that the subordination of the group to the ideal of the Divine Individual is the answer to the paradox of nihilism and totalitarianism.”

    Sorry, but nothing in this quote tracks with this ‘Goddess Movement’ Rollo is writing about in the post. However, Rollo, you make reference to it like it is some New-Agey Woo-Woo term aligned with crystal vibrations and Tarot cards.

    Finally, I find this tendency to dismiss Peterson as some sort of New Age priest selling a bill of goods to ‘lost boys’ as weirdly incoherent for RP adherents.

    Rollo often writes about the ‘Burden of Performance’ men face and of the necessity to deal with the reality of Red Pill regardless whether it is ‘fair’. Rollo and RP claims to seek to help men by making them how the world REALLY works rather than the way they have been indoctrinated to think it works.

    Peterson ‘preaches’ the same message to everyone, but particularly young men, that Life ain’t fair, wishing it was is wasted effort, and it’s up to YOU to make something of your life despite whatever odds or obstacles one faces. He ‘preaches’ that much of the horsehit, Feminist and otherwise, people have been steeped in are lies which are hurting them.

    I don’t claim Peterson and RP track down the line, but what I am saying enough of it does track, that much of what Peterson is doing IS helping people like RP does, that he deserves credible and substantial critiques, and not off-hand and facile ones.

  34. Peterson’s ‘ intellectualism ” isn’t anything special, yet his subject matter peaks much interest.”

    That’s a value judgement. And it’s not a very accurate one.

    And that’s why he put the bulk of his intellectualism on YouTube (besides to save his job, which he doesn’t need anymore, because Paterson patrons and book buyers acknowledge some value in his thoughts and words….)

    Just because his shit doesn’t resonate with a person, doesn’t mean there isn’t something special, unique and valuable there.

    I’m the same, I don’t get much new value or ideas from him, but I’ve seen his impact “save” and direct young men in an (alleged) chaotic world of Feminine Supremacism. And admittedly these are unformed young men to a large degree.

  35. I don’t mind the guy but It might be time for a Godwin’s Law corollary — first one to mention Jordan Peterson loses.

  36. Buffers are weaknesses disguised as strengths to maintain a lie. Those who use them are targets of exploitation. As BP men are pre-installed with convenient lies to rationalize their sorry lot and subsidize the FI, women too must accept fictions tailored for feminine consumption.

    I say bravo and thank you BP world!

    “Law 33: Discover Each Man’s Thumbscrew: Everyone has a weakness, a gap in the castle wall. That weakness is usually insecurity, an uncontrollable emotion or need; it can also be a small secret pleasure. Either way, once found, it is a thumbscrew you can turn to your advantage.”

    http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-33-discover-each-mans-thumbscrew.html

    This new-agey spiritualism is a particularly insidious buffer and thumbscrew. Add it to your quiver of attraction. Personalize it, finesse it. Some call it machination, I call it business.

    Bunk spiritualism is the cost of doing business in the SMP. I see upside opportunity in woo-woo. What are you seeing? Dead people?

    Spiritualism isn’t real except in her head. It can be created from whole cloth, quickly so, and this bogus value can be delivered with no cost to me, you.

    Example: I had a FR recently about two post wall women…this here helped.

    The brunette started in about her job. After a minute I went into a “You’re burdened and not listening to your heart” convo. I direct her attention to my whiskey glass, hold it up as if it a curiosity. I’m completely chill, almost liquified. I had a cigar buzz going.

    “Did you know alcohol is feminine?” She pauses then asks “No, how’s that?” with a curious look like I’m up to something….and she was right.

    “You see, your talk of work is action oriented, getting thing done, business and living in the world of labor. That’s masculinity defined. We all have our moments there. You know the remedy of this world force-fitting your mind into a masculine box? It’s this.” I slowly raise up my glass. “Like a woman, this here looks good (as I peer at it), smells good (as I sniff it), and even feels good (and I put the glass to my cheek). I take a drink and I’m not interested much in work anymore, it’s the neutralizer to masculine action.”

    They responded wonderfully and that’s when the blonde…no joke…in front of my wife…reaches to my face and caressingly sweeps her hand along my jaw, we lazing each other.

    In conclusion, women who believe in any woo spiritualism are to some extent, buffered, benighted and easily manipulated. Throw in positive masculinity and ta-da, irresistible attractiveness.

    Life is as easy. Get out there men. The world is yours to be had.

    High five!

  37. One place you might notice this Goddess trend is the largely female-driven “holistic medicine” movement. There is something to be said for seeing the patient as a person rather than just a disease or a symptom, but the (often female) practitioners imply that they are knowing and reaching the patient on some deeper level than mere manly medical science.

    Also note the many women involved in new-agey practices such as reiki massage, where belief and suggestibility are part of the package.

  38. IIRC, Isis worship involved sculptures of boobs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veil_of_Isis

    Christianity is currently tending towards Isis worship, in line with the OP. My field report offers data to support this observation.

    I was in my sunday school class, getting snacks and coffee. There were no plates on the table and a young (mid-20s) married woman was getting food at the same time as I was (I was there first) and she noticed plates under the table and squatted slightly and bent over to get some. Her not-low-cut top gapped full open and she flashed me with a full view of her C-cups. I was a dear in the headlights. Stunned and a bit shocked. (She is an HB7 and surely is very socially aware.)

    Thinking about this later, I doubt that this woman consciously planned to flash me, but she certainly planned to be getting food at the same time that I was. Likely her flashing was her sexual subconscious and she is just unconsciously competent at flashing men with her boobs.

    Later, whenever I happened to be looking in her direction, she was all over her husband, hugging him, leaning into him, caressing him. I avoided looking at her except once or twice, and only briefly then. I’ve never said a single word to this woman.

    FI-Isis-style Boobs on Display…coming to a church near you. Evangelical and Catholic movements to Free the Nipple ™.

  39. “I don’t mind the guy but It might be time for a Godwin’s Law corollary — first one to mention Jordan Peterson loses.”

    +1
    You got my vote for today’s winner of the Spherenetz.

  40. When your wife shows a sudden new interest in all that “goddess” shit, watch out. Definite red flag. Chances are good that “the goddess” has told her that you suck, and she is perfectly justified in getting it on with Chad, or more simply that she has the hots for her yoga instructor / New Age Guru who has gamed her with a lot of talk about how she is spiritually sensitive and in touch with the spiritual realm unlike her grunting crude husband blah blah blah.

  41. As a matter of fact, I do like these girls. I love them, in fact.

    Hippie girls, yoga girls, witch-girls, godess-girls, whatever spiritual girls.

    They are feminince, sexy, cute, cool, fun, nice, loving and well-meaning.

    It is up to US men not to worship at the legs of the Feminine Imperative.

  42. It’s up to men not to abdicate moral authority or let women usurp moral authority in The Goddess Movement for their own purposes.

    I may be ignorant at times, but I have no problem with my wife going to a (female) Reki masseuse or a male massage therapist (to work on her hamstrings). It is part of the Polar Dance of allowing her to be feminine, sexy, cute, cool, fun, nice, loving and well-meaning.

  43. All this chick crack stuff is just another form of ex post facto feels rationalizations. Just a wordier hamster…

    Use to your benefit.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bzQ_0KIT3gU

    “Describe what you feel”

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2t51ug

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nS6–wzxxvU

    Tell her about her favorite subject – her…

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SqFo2UIzZ18

    “I’m not a religious person… But I am spiritual”

    After guessing her middle initial…

  44. “Polar Dance of allowing her to be feminine, sexy, cute, cool, fun, nice, loving and well-meaning.”

    My woman stays lilmber pole dancing too. Nice.

  45. http://stylelife.com/dating-tips/cold-reading-101/

    Here are a few basic rules that will help you learn how to make your cold reads more believable and complex. These tips will help boost your cold reading skills regardless of the cold reading routine you’re using – like the Cube, Strawberry Fields, astrology, Tarot or rune stones.
    Sound Bites:

    Always think about the words you use. They should sound mystical and deep. They should also make the person you’re reading feel like everything is specifically about them. Here are a few common sound bites to think about saying during your cold read:

    Your personal journey…
    The way you experience…
    The feeling you get…
    Breaking the common pattern…
    Two paths to choose…
    You have this positive (or negative) energy…
    Confidence:

    Act like everything you say is true.
    Don’t doubt what you say.
    Do say everything like you’re the authority.

  46. Rollo,

    Nice photos. They capture a calm gracefully aging California man…who does lots of cardio.

  47. SJF

    I have no problem with my wife going to a (female) Reki masseuse or a male massage therapist (to work on her hamstrings).

    where are you on OM? Orgasmic Meditation?

    https://onetaste.us/what-is-om

    Orgasmic Meditation (OM) is a unique wellness practice that combines mindfulness with the power of the deeply human, deeply felt experience of Orgasm.

    OM puts you in touch with your body and your sexuality. During the practice, one person strokes another person’s clitoris for 15 minutes with no goal other than to feel the sensation. OM is:

    Safe
    Systematic — always done in the same way
    Goalless — You don’t need to get anywhere
    Intimate –- Done with two people

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGMSmNMXXpU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ycP-cxeTU0

    “I thought I was going to be a Buddhist nun… until one night i went to a party”

    Oh the lack of irony…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9QVq0EM6g4

    Nicole Daedone is a sought-after speaker, author, and educator focusing on the intersection between orgasm, intimacy, and life. She is the founder of OneTaste, a cutting-edge company bringing a new definition of orgasm to women. The practice at the heart of her work is called OM or Orgasmic Meditation. OM uniquely combines the tradition of extended orgasm with Nicole’s own interest in Zen Buddhism, mystical Judaism and semantics. Helping to foster a new conversation about orgasm —one that’s real, relevant, and intelligent—she has inspired thousands of students to make OM a part of their everyday lives.

    So when we get to the Alpha Farms of 2035, orgasm will be part of worship…

  48. “some how I found myself, lying their…. with my legs… butterflied open”

    oh the lols of that TED talk.

    [Rollo – no fix for the inline videos and images? grrrr]

  49. @ Sentient

    Down and Out in Beverly Hills has a scene about 50″ in. Bum cum houseguest Nick Nolte massagse out repressed Midller’s negative energy…into orgasm.

    Audio is cacked but you get the idea:

    https://youtu.be/pWxkZ3GUdyc

  50. OM

    When penis in vagina is too complicated a concept. Answer: Exotify masturbation.

    Talk about virtue of necessities…and an opportunity for (certain) men.

  51. I like this Rollo OP not just as actionable interpersonal advice but also because we’re constantly being told now how women bring some secret sauce, some ineffable nuance, to various endeavors. Women will “humanize” business, humanize science and medicine, humanize politics, whatever. As if men aren’t human.

    We’ve all heard, “If only there were more female leaders, there wouldn’t be any war,” and that kind of nonsense is spreading

  52. >25 HB9-10 or gtfo.

    No difference. Mystical superpowers evidently.

    *laughing emoji here *

    I don’t get the issue with yoga though. Wifey yogas all over the house daily. Hell, she’s probably standing on her head upstairs right now.

  53. “…where are you on OM? ”

    “When penis in vagina is too complicated a concept. Answer: Exotify masturbation.”

    “Looks like repackaged hysteria treatment to me.”

    Isn’t that just for the ugly girls that can’t cuck by conventional means?

  54. Eh

    1986. I remember that scene. Laying more groundwork for cucking and AF/BB.

    SJF

    “Isn’t that just for the ugly girls that can’t cuck by conventional means?”

    Haha. Fuck maybe. But maybe not.

    In 2035 it will be catechism.

  55. “I don’t get the issue with yoga though. Wifey yogas all over the house daily. Hell, she’s probably standing on her head upstairs right now.”

    Yoga is the best exercise for women. Ashtanga yoga is perfect…does just about everything, with exactly the right level of resistance not to bulk up.

  56. ” . . . exactly the right level of resistance not to bulk up.”

    Calories are the master control of “bulk.” Hormones are the master control of muscle mass. If I trained you you could train like a power lifter, add muscle that didn’t look “muscular” and get slimmer, yet “shapelier.” Not to mention being flexible to a degree only exceeded by gymnastics training (which, like yoga, often accomplishes its “flexibility” through actual and irreversible physical damage).

    If you trained yourself you’d probably find (as do most women who take up body building) that you can’t “bulk” even if you want to, except by getting fat.

    Asana is for yogis following the path. It losses its meaning outside of that context and is more often than not counter indicated for exercise.

    Disclaimer of Bias: As I have mentioned before I was trained by actual Indian yogis, not some chick at the mall. As a general rule I have noted that women know squat all about either exercise or yoga, but won’t listen to people who do.

  57. Aryan Blindboy says: I hope the men at Dalrock are reading this…

    I put a link to this article over there.
    Interesting article. there were some good observations in there. I take possible exception to the swipe at Jordan Peterson, and some other stuff, of course. Dalrock has taken swipes at him too. I think the guy is helping society more than hurting it, and Jordan Peterson has a lot of the right enemies. If he pisses off Feminazis, that in and of itself is a praiseworthy accomplishment.

  58. @OBIT said: We’ve all heard, “If only there were more female leaders, there wouldn’t be any war,” and that kind of nonsense is spreading

    Should you ever suffer the misfortune of reading or hearing this detritus, feel free to cite this study: http://odube.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Queens_Oct2015.pdf

    New York University scholars Oeindrila Dube and S.P. Harish analyzed 28 European queenly reigns from 1480 to 1913 and found a 27 percent increase in wars when a queen was in power, as compared to the reign of a king. “People have this preconceived idea that states that are led by women engage in less conflict,” Dube told Pacific Standard, but her analysis of the data on European queens suggests another story.

  59. Impressive girl, kfg, what is her name? I’d like to see what she looks like now.

    I’m just deferring to what I’ve seen. Many, many times. It’s always the same. I’ve known women who compete/have competed. I know one woman who was on the cover of Oxygen and Shape and is famous FOR exercising. And she too bulked up.

    Now, maybe they’re all “doing it wrong” but if it’s that difficult to get right I’d rather stick to what i’ve seen work reliably.

  60. I should add, some of them took years to bulk up. They could and would “skinny down” for competition by very strict dieting….but that’s not the life I want to lead. Later on, when they stopped the strict dieting I can’t think of a single one that didn’t/doesn’t look very thick today.

  61. When my wife was lifting more heavy poundage, she gained some muscle and her body fat % decreased. She didn’t really take in enough calories and protein to bulk up, but her perception was that she was getting ” huge “, which wasn’t quite true, but her body was making the kinds of shifts a novice experiences when they’ve been lifting consistently over a few years.

    Bulking isn’t easy and it won’t happen randomly just by lifting some weight.

    She practices yoga ( not in a mall..lol ) and is kinda addicted because she says she is more flexible now than when she was a teenager. It’s only been about 2.5 years that she’s been bending herself into odd shapes, but even this is changing her body.

    I agree that the benefits of practicing yoga depend on how you’re taught. Initially my wife was instructed by one of her friends who is a personal trainer ( and that woman is semi bulked up ), but then she switched to more advanced stuff with a woman she used to work with who’s from India and who took her to the next level.

    All I know is that I have to think about it hard because I just do basic stretching. I can’t do a handstand on my forearms and touch my toes to the top of my head. No injuries yet, but she “warms up ” for like 20 minutes before she begins, then she’ll just yoga all throughout the day.

  62. New York University scholars Oeindrila Dube and S.P. Harish analyzed 28 European queenly reigns from 1480 to 1913 and found a 27 percent increase in wars when a queen was in power, as compared to the reign of a king.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukbzD88W2DA

    The soldier came knocking upon the queen’s door
    He said, “I am not fighting for you any more”
    The queen knew she’d seen his face someplace before
    And slowly she let him inside.

    He said, “I’ve watched your palace up here on the hill
    And I’ve wondered who’s the woman for whom we all kill
    But I am leaving tomorrow and you can do what you will
    Only first I am asking you why.”

    Down in the long narrow hall he was led
    Into her rooms with her tapestries red
    And she never once took the crown from her head
    She asked him there to sit down.

    He said, “I see you now, and you are so very young
    But I’ve seen more battles lost than I have battles won
    And I’ve got this intuition, says it’s all for your fun
    And now will you tell me why?”

    Well the young queen, she fixed him with an arrogant eye
    She said, “You won’t understand, and you may as well not try”
    But her face was a child’s, and he thought she would cry
    But she closed herself up like a fan.

    And she said, “I have swallowed a secret burning thread
    It cuts me inside, and often I’ve bled”
    He laid his hand then on top of her head
    And he bowed her down to the ground.

    “Tell me how hungry are you? How weak you must feel
    As you are living here alone, and you are never revealed
    But I won’t march again on your battlefield”
    And he took her to the window to see.

    And the sun, it was gold, though the sky, it was gray
    And she wanted more than she ever could say
    But she knew how it frightened her, and she turned away
    And would not look at his face again.

    And he said, “I want to live as an honest man
    To get all I deserve and to give all I can
    And to love a young woman who I don’t understand
    Your highness, your ways are very strange.”

    But the crown, it had fallen, and she thought she would break
    And she stood there, ashamed of the way her heart ached
    She took him to the doorstep and she asked him to wait
    She would only be a moment inside.

    Out in the distance her order was heard
    And the soldier was killed, still waiting for her word
    And while the queen went on strangling in the solitude she preferred
    The battle continued on.

  63. As far as I know, I’ve never sustained an injury doing yoga. But I don’t do it that much (not all day, throughout the day), just have a few poses I do about five times a week and it takes no longer than 15 or so minutes total. But they are pretty challenging. I had a meniscal tear or two in the knees from running (I’ve recently started some quad work to even out the muscles around the patella which seems to have taken care of the knee problem that was probably the product of asymetry).

    As a general rule I have noted that women know squat all about either exercise or yoga, but won’t listen to people who do.

    I’ve listened to you. I now squat ALL the way down, to save my knees. But I’ve never been above a size 2, and I’ve never seen a powerlifter with a body I would want to have (except that girl in the photo you provided).

  64. Eh

    Exotify masturbation.

    Well consider that your local rub and tugger is regularly raided and men arrested… But “One Taste” is headlining TED talks…

    Exotify… legally… One of these things is not like the other.

    http://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Tapes-from-local-massage-parlor-raids-yield-another-arrest-478808683.html

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/seattle-pd-arrests-155-men-in-massage-parlor-sting-operation/

    https://patch.com/texas/galleria-riveroaks/sex-trade-crackdown-houston-pd-arrests-139-johns

    Apparently men do not warrant the “deeply human, deeply felt experience” of the Orgasm… and the women that work at these massage parlors can walk down to a One Taste and sign up for a session no problemo.

    “Orgasms for me and not for thee” is the decree…

    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/fashion/15commune.html

    Soon the aspiring OM-ers, including a couple from Marin County hoping to rekindle their marriage, gathered on the floor kindergarten-style around a massage table. Justine Dawson, a wholesome-looking 34-year-old community resident, took off her robe and hopped up. Another resident, Andy Roy, 28, began his task, his concentration so exquisite that he broke into a sweat.

    Wow! Just imagine how clean Mr. Roy’s room is!!!!

  65. “Laura: You mention a few times in the book that you were part of a community of OM practitioners for many years before founding OneTaste and writing this book. Who were your mentors? Where did the practice of OM originate?

    Daedone: The technique of stroking women’s genitals has been around for many years. In fact, it was an accepted medical practice for a long time. My first encounter with the stroking technique that ultimately became OM came when I met a cute guy at a party. He gave me what I thought was the best pick-up line I’d ever heard. He said he wanted to put his attention on my orgasm for 15 minutes, and I didn’t have to do anything in return. I still can’t quite believe I said yes, but I did, and that’s how I first practiced it. I became very interested in the experience, not just physically, but mentally. I had been planning to move into the San Francisco Zen Center at the time, and I found it quieted my mind in much the same way meditation did. So I found out where he’d learned it, and went and lived with a community that was teaching it. Later I studied with a teacher named Ray Vetterlein, who became my mentor. He’d learned it in the ’60s and taught it right up until he passed away last month.

    At a certain point, I realized I could marry the practice with everything I’d learned along my path of personal development, from Kabbalah to Zen. So with Ray’s encouragement, I took the practice and made it into Orgasmic Meditation. I changed the technique in certain ways and began to lay down a philosophy that went with it. That philosophy is what ultimately came to be Slow Sex. It’s what makes OM different from other stroking practices out there.”

    https://shepherdexpress.com/advice/sexpress/om-nom-nom-orgasmic-meditation-provides-food-thought/

    Just a few steps away from achieving Goddess status in her own religion.

    this here…

    The practice does require a partner, however, and it’s a touchy subject to say that a woman cannot experience this variety of orgasm alone. But it is the truth, for the simple reason that you cannot take yourself out of control. Just like you can’t tickle yourself, you cannot take yourself out of your own volition. Being out of control is the thing we crave most. It is the experience of orgasm. That’s why we enjoy climax so much: For one split second, we are taken out of the driver’s seat. We lose ourselves, quite literally, in sensation.

    Been saying it forever… women think they want to be in control, but they really want to be out of control – meaning someone else is IN control… You can’t beat Mother Nature…

    So remember that when you are thinking about dominance, attraction, PUA, sex… it’s hard wired.

  66. @ Sentient

    Read the article. One touch is similar to NEXIVM.

    She’s living with the 208 million dollar man benefactor.

    The caliber of men…oh boy. The women find no excitement there.

    Men pay money to fuck hot women. Women pay money not to be fucked by betas. Silly girls.

  67. ” . . .she says she is more flexible now than when she was a teenager.”

    Indeed. If only people understood “flexibility” and didn’t value in and of itself as a consequence.

    ” . . . she’s been bending herself into odd shapes, but even this is changing her body.”

    Exactly.

    “I can’t do a handstand on my forearms and touch my toes to the top of my head.”

    Ya ever wonder why not? It’s because you have built in mechanical structure to prevent you from doing that, and for good reason. Ergo, a person who can do that lacks the mechanical structure to prevent it. Ergo, they were either malformed in the first place, or, they have damaged their structure to allow it. Right now muscles are taking over the function to compensate, but should a person who can do that live long enough to become old and frail (as we all do if we live long enough) they are likely to find that they cannot properly support their spine.

    Yoga was developed by and for men living ascetically in a cave/cell with “nothing to do.” Their goal was transcendence. They damaged themselves in various ways in order to be and do what normal men couldn’t. While it was intended as exercise of a sort, it was part of a spiritual practice and a form of meditation. Which is part of why it falls under the Chick Crack category.

    It is not something someone who is not explicitly intending to embark on the path of that particular tradition of “spirituality,” with full knowledge of what that entails, should do. And I won’t teach it any more even as part of the tradition. It serves no purpose other than to maintain the tradition, and the tradition is wrong in that regard. Modern calisthenics are better “yoga” than yoga and are perfectly adaptable to meditative ends.

    I’ll note again that there is no such thing as stretching muscle (you relax it). There is such a thing as stretching connective tissue, but such tissues are intended not to stretch to perform their function. Stretching them is damage, damage which can only be somewhat corrected by surgery.

    There is no such thing as “double jointed.” Such “flexibility” (actually range of motion) is a sign of malformation or damage. The normal (for good biomechanical reasons) stops are not functioning correctly.

    “Impressive girl, kfg, what is her name?”

    Mila Kunis. She’s not a lifter, she’s a starlet. Or at least she was at the time. Now she’s 35. She lifted in order to look like that in that outfit.

    “I know one woman who was on the cover of Oxygen and Shape and is famous FOR exercising. And she too bulked up.”

    She didn’t do that exercising for “health and fitness” on her own. She did it with intent and under the direction of trainers who controlled virtually every aspect of her life to accomplish that.

    “They could and would “skinny down” for competition by very strict dieting….”

    Q.E.D.

    “….but that’s not the life I want to lead.”

    Then don’t overeat in the first place. Every. Ounce. On. Your. Body. Got. There. Through. Your. Mouth.

    “I’ve listened to you. I now squat ALL the way down, to save my knees.”

    Good girl.

  68. “One touch is similar to NEXIVM.”

    In NEXIVM – Alpha male has branded women vying for sex with him – he is brought up on Federal charges.

    In OneTase – Beta males vying for no sex with women. She is lauded by the cognoscenti for empowering practice.

  69. “Then don’t overeat in the first place. Every. Ounce. On. Your. Body. Got. There. Through. Your. Mouth.”

    Of course. But appetite varies depending on the level of various hormones.
    A person with Cushing’s syndrome also gained weight by over eating.
    So did every pregnant woman.
    But a pregnant woman who tries to restrict diet will be very very grumpy and challenging to be around. It isn’t just about will power.
    As they say, in the contest of will power verses hormones, hormones win.
    So, again…perhaps I’m very very ignorant, but I do what seems to work (longterm).

  70. Why is it impossible to mention JBP in any critical respect and have it not be a “swipe”? Questions fanbois need to consider.

  71. Looks like the ground is being properly prepared for the Bene Gesserit order. If I remember well, they were distrusted by everyone. Go figure

  72. The dialogue from Rugby’s “The Witch” clip above…


    Thomasin: Black Phillip.
    I conjure thee to speak to me.
    Speak as thou dost speak
    to Jonas and Mercy.
    Dost thou understand
    my English tongue?
    Answer me.

    Black Phillip: What dost thou want?

    Thomasin: What canst thou give?

    Black Phillip: Wouldst thou like the
    taste of butter?
    A pretty dress?
    Wouldst thou like to
    live deliciously?

    Thomasin: Yes.

    Black Phillip: Wouldst thou like
    to see the world?

    Thomasin: What will you from me?

    Black Phillip: Dost thou see a
    book before thee?
    Remove thy shift.

    Thomasin: I cannot write my name.

    Black Phillip: I will guide thy hand.

    In which Thomasin answers the question “What do women want?”…

    https://www.instagram.com/anyataylorjoy/?hl=en

    Wouldst thou like to live deliciously? Indeed…

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BkiLgPCBrQ1/?hl=en&taken-by=anyataylorjoy

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BB7e-4ftBrQ/?hl=en&taken-by=anyataylorjoy

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BB7e-4ftBrQ/?hl=en&taken-by=anyataylorjoy

    Remove thy shift.

  73. ” . . . in the contest of will power verses hormones, hormones win.”

    Q.E.D. Lift all you want, if you don’t have the right hormones you won’t bulk. And women have hormones that favor bulking fat, not muscle.

    Note that right now there are hundreds of thousands of men around the world, with the correct hormones to build muscle, complaining that they lift, but can’t build muscle. They’re all over the forums looking for advice. It is, as often as not, because lifting doesn’t increase their appetites. They’re eating at maintenance, and so they maintain.

    While there are limits on will power, eating at maintenance is well within the capacity of any non-disordered human being. If you are disordered, find out what the disorder is and how you might go about eliminating or living with it.

    I run my own body mass, and its partitioning, around at will (within biological limits, which I never push too hard because I DO NOT want to be on the Razor’s Edge. I don’t get paid for it and I’m getting oldish, so I’m more interested in long term robustness than “peak performance”) on a seasonal basis, depending on what I intend to be doing that season.

    Here’s a picture of the winner of a (local) powerlifting competition (benching 145):

    http://www.gastongazette.com/storyimage/NC/20151109/NEWS/151108871/AR/0/AR-151108871.jpg

    My God, she’s so bulky that her waist is nearly as thick as my hill climbing cyclist (i.e. skinniest state) thighs. How does she bear it?

  74. Both nexivm and onetaste have a single wealthy benefactor and trancendance through mystic ritualized sex.

    It’s a proven business plan until the smoke clears.

    What woman wants betas lurching over her? It goes against the hypergamy script.

  75. We’ve all heard, “If only there were more female leaders, there wouldn’t be any war,”

    “So like Indira Gandhi (1971 India-Pakistan War), Golda Meir (Yom Kippur War) and Margaret Thatcher (Falkands War) then?”

  76. “It is, as often as not, because lifting doesn’t increase their appetites. They’re eating at maintenance, and so they maintain.”
    I’ll just be a master of the obvious here (call me moto if you like) and say it: men are not women.
    All one needs to do is look at Olympic swimmers or gymnasts. The men have perfect bodies (and stay that way, I know a gold medalist swimmer who is now in his late 40s), the women bulky weird ones (exception the teenagers…wait a few years).

    “My God, she’s so bulky that her waist is nearly as thick as my hill climbing cyclist (i.e. skinniest state) thighs. How does she bear it?”
    I’d like to see her standing, but to me just looking at her back she looks bulky.
    I’ll bet she has an odd shape.

  77. ” . . . people eat less even a month after they come out of high altitude . . .”

    You can tell that they eat less by the fact that they gained a third of their lost weight back in only a month. Weight gain and eating less go together like, ummmm . . .

    “One limitation of the study, however, is that it didn’t show whether the men lost mostly muscle mass, fat, or water weight, Leissner said.”

    If it didn’t mention this you could have just tossed the article straight into the Junk Science bin.

    “The sceintists’ data showed this was likely because they ate about 730 calories less . . .”

    Ah, well, given the above, into the bin it goes anyway. Perhaps the actual study is at least a bit better than the article.

  78. @Rollo

    “Why is it impossible to mention JBP in any critical respect and have it not be a “swipe”?”

    Why is it impossible to voice value in JBP for young men, and not have it be seen as a ringing endorsement of his brand? Despite the Gaad Saad link I posted yesterday, Peterson is not any where near the Woo-Woo Power of Positive thinking, mumbo jumbo, platitudes spewing entity that charlatans have. He has actionable, abstract and concrete information to digest, to think about and to learn from. And one value of his body of work is that it is counter to The Current Cultural Matrix, post-modernist, SJW, and identity-politics narrative.

    I find JBP’s spoken and written work complementary to Red Pill (on the young men masculine self-improvement side of it). While fully acknowledging the danger (Will Robinson) side of his dyed in the blue pill, social order and old school set of books for men. But then again, I’m not averse to young men going through life with exposure to potential dangers downstream and avoiding them. There is a danger in incels looking at his stuff and not swallowing the Red Pill. And that danger is real. But it’s more of a danger for young men not to know how the reality of socially organized humans work, and how the archetypes of social organizations are overlay-ed on the epi-genetics of humans.

    But what do I know? I see my son’s buddy (but not my son, my son is too busy doing well to look at or listen to JBP, and he’s getting laid, so there is that factor…and I’ve learned how to phrase things to be on Red Pill point from JBP that I can filter to my son) and another of my buddies’ son get inspired to move forward with purpose and mission in life. (In other words, I have investment in young men’s enlightenment and self interest).

    The manosphere is a dirty comet. There are all kinds of content out there and all kinds of men that have different needs, skill-sets and different hurdles to get over and different goals to accomplish. To exclude intellectual concepts of JBP from men swapping notes in the manosphere because he is too blue pilled is not good form. It’s just a discussion, it’s not a point of argument.

    Is your question a covert moderation tactic, or a point of discussion, Rollo?

    Questions that Red Pill fathers with sons, uncles with nephews and men with young men they might want to mentor in a Chaotic world might want to consider. How to tame the Noise, and get clear signals in that Chaos. Unlike other guru charlatans, JBP actually tames some of the bullshit noise out there for young men.

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