The Nature of the Game

I had a reader ask me some questions recently and in answering it gave me some food for thought.

Are we stuck in our Alpha fucks/Beta cucks categories? Should we attempt to blend the two categories into the ultimate hybrid?

Or is there nothing we can do, but attempt to use the information that you have (brilliantly) given us as a navigational tool to find our way through this world and godspeed to every fellow?

Before this I came across these Tweets from Rian Stone:

I think a lot of guys new to Red Pill awareness tend to apply qualifiers to the ideas of what is Alpha and what is Beta. In a similar respect a lot of plugged-in Blue Pill conditioned ‘Beta’ men like to make similar qualifications, but their understanding is rooted in what their conditioning has convinced them of. For the newly unplugged guy, Alpha is whatever he hadn’t been doing before with women that is now working for him once he flipped his own script. For the plugged in guy, whatever he’s been convinced of that women say they want is ‘Alpha’ to him – and usually that means whatever benefits a woman’s sexual strategy in terms of long term provisioning, parental investment and security. They just don’t realize their own utility to women in that game.

That said, I don’t disagree with Rian here. Over the course of fifteen years and three books I have made every effort to correct critics who insist that “all those Red Pill guys think Alpha men are Silverback Gorillas or Wolves.” Roissy once called this Etymology Hate:

5. Etymology Hate

Hater: Your definition of an alpha male is false. In the animal kingdom, the alpha male is leader of the pack, not a cad/badboy/jerk who pumps and dumps women.

Isn’t it just like a nerd to get hysterical over the appropriation of a narrow-sense scientific term to conveniently illustrate broader truths about men and women.

These “broader truths” are why I still use Alpha and Beta as descriptions for men and their mindsets. Critics and disingenuous haters like to think that even considering men or behavior sets as being Alpha or Beta is cause for dismissing whatever is being said. There’s a reason for this blanket disqualification which I’ll cover in a moment, but what they (willfully) misunderstand is that these classification are abstractions for bigger ideas. Alpha and Beta are placeholder terms necessary to consider more complex ideas in intersexual dynamics. For the most part, when I hear or read Blue Pill conditioned men mock the idea of Alpha men and insist that it’s a direct derivative of believing those ‘idiot Red Pill guys thinking they’re Alpha wolves or Silverback gorillas’ I know that I’m not dealing with a serious debate. More on this later.

Rian is also correct in his observation that both Red Pill aware men and critics alike tend to think of Alpha and Beta as specific archetypes of men. I’ve written almost a dozen essays about the nature of Alpha, but in each one I make an attempt to dispel the archetype of what an Alpha or a Beta man is. The Beta archetype is easy to agree on because almost no guy wants to be a “beta male”. As would be expected we tend to think of betas as the stereotypical ‘cuck’ or ‘soy boy’, or the Nümale with his fear grimace agape.

I should point out that even the guys who we would categorize as Betas don’t think they are. Very few Beta men look in the mirror and go “damn, I gotta Alpha up”. They believe that they are the vanguard of the new definition of Alpha; that they and women have evolved beyond the visceral realities of Hypergamy and Beta is the new Alpha. Recently there’s been a concerted social effort to redefine what is acceptable masculinity in the wake of the narrative shift that would have us accept that all masculinity is toxic.

For men there will always be a want to believe that whatever qualities make up their own personality and their own lifestyle is what should define what is “alpha”. From Alpha:

Guy’s like Corey [Worthington] infuriate men who have invested their self-worth in the accomplishments of what they think ought to be universally appreciated and rewarded. So when they’re confronted with a natural Alpha being undeservedly rewarded for brazenly acting out of accord with what they think the rules ought to be, they seethe with resentment. The natural response in the face of such an inconsistency is to redefine the term ‘Alpha’ to cater to themselves and their accomplishments as “real men” and exclude the perpetrator. The conflict then comes from seeing his new definition of Alpha not being rewarded or even appreciated as well as a natural Alpha attitude and the cycle continues. Your respect (or anyone else’s) for an Alpha has nothing to do with whether or not he possess an Alpha mindset. 3 failed marriages and 100+ lays has nothing to do with his having or not having an Alpha mindset.

In the same way that a Blue Pill conditioned “beta male” believes he best represents the new “alpha” definition, so to do a lot of Red Pill aware men who play the same game of applying their own traits to what should be considered or appreciated as “alpha”. Nowhere is this more apparent than in Trad-Con circles – an Alpha is a guy who takes care of his family and is respected as the head of the home. He takes care of his duties to family, God and country, etc., etc. Really all this is is another grab at affirmation of personal worth. Blue Pill “betas” believe exactly the same self-fulfilling thing from a different set of ideological beliefs.

In the process both the plugged-in and the unplugged create convenient archetypes for the opposite of the apex they want to believe they are and what they hope will be confirmed and rewarded. Usually these are binary caricatures: the Alpha ‘Chad’ is usually whatever image of the popular high school jock that used to be their nemesis fits, while the Beta ‘doormat’ is the George McFly character whose introversion and lack of social intelligence places him at the bottom of the dominance hierarchy. Either one of these guys can be seen in a positive or negative light depending on the perspective of who’s doing the viewing. To the Nümale, whatever that classic Beta does should be what’s appreciated as ‘alpha’ and to the Trad-Con an Alpha is the guy who dominates, but only insofar as he sticks to what they think is his ‘duty’.

Funny how both tend think the Alpha Playah, the self-important ‘Cad’ who women tingle for, who follows his own sexual strategy shouldn’t be considered ‘Alpha’ in spite of women consistently, predictably rewarding him with sex and genuine desire.  Rian nailed this part; Alpha makes her wet, Beta makes her secure. Our Instinctual interpretive process understands the visceral reasons why women get worked up for that physically ideal guy who also completes the fantasy of the Alpha Fucks side of Hypergamy. But our Emotional and Rational processes want to recreate a reality in which what we have is what women really want. So we try to persuade and convince women to act against their own Instinctual interpretive process with respect to what they should find sexy and genuinely desirable – us, just as we are. We want to change the Game to fit our capacity, our skill, our genetics, to excel in it.

Beta men don’t just hope that women will perceive their own redefinitions of ‘alpha’ as the accepted ideal, they build lives and systems of belief around convincing others and themselves that we’ve evolved past the visceral realities of what arouses women. Trad-Con men, even Red Pill aware men, do something similar – they hope that their own definition of what should constitute Alpha, and best describes themselves, will likewise supersede the natural evolved impulse of what a woman’s hindbrain perceives as an ideal Hypergamous opportunity.

Alpha Seed, Beta Need

T-rex doesn’t want to be fed; he wants to hunt. You can’t just suppress sixty-five million years of gut instinct. – Dr. Grant, Jurassic Park

Hypergamy wants what Hypergamy wants, but it’s also important to remember that Hypergamy has two sides; Alpha Seed and Beta Need. When we look at the dynamic of Ovulatory Shift we see this play out. In a woman’s proliferative phase of her menstrual cycle she is predisposed to seek out sexual opportunities with high SMV, masculinized, dominant (to the point of arrogance) men. In her luteal phase she seeks comfort, rapport, security and protection qualities in men. Alpha Seed, Beta Need. As Rian pointed out, we’ve made archetypes (and caricatures) of the type of guy who embodies these needs, but we do so to persuade a woman’s evolved Instinctive understanding of what they are. Women’s hindbrains want to hunt for Hypergamous opportunity, men’s rational (and emotional) process wants to ‘feed’ Hypergamy by redefining what that Instinct should want.

Where both Nümales, Trad-Cons and more than a few Red Pill aware men get it wrong is believing that the security Beta represents should also be what gets her wet. We live in a day and age where men are so feminized that 80%+ default to ‘beta’ behaviors and mindsets because they believe it’s what arouses women. I’ve also written many essays about how anxiety, urgency and (sexual) tension are necessary factors in the ‘enthusiastic’ sex women have with men they genuinely desire. When it comes to comforting a woman, rapport, honesty, emotional investment and security the Beta men of today have been acculturated to have it all in spades. Where they fall short is the Alpha capacity to generate tingles based on making women uncomfortable. One reason men have a tough time with Red Pill awareness is because it all seems so counterintuitive to everything they’ve ever been conditioned to believe about women and sex and how to initiate it.

If you read Roissy’s old categories of Beta to Alpha it follows a predictable pattern. The same applies to Vox Day’s socio-sexual hierarchies (Omega, Gamma, Sigma, Delta, Beta, Alpha, etc), but what we’re really defining in these ranking is a male dominance hierarchy as it applies to women’s sexual selection process – Alpha seed, Beta need – and according to any individual woman’s capacity to demand any particular rank of man.

To answer the first question I began with here, I don’t think the “categories” ever really end because dominance hierarchies are something innate to our world. So, rather than think we can change this, change the nature of reality as equalism attempts to, I think men ought to learn to play it better. The nature of the game doesn’t change. In fact, the equalist mindset that wants to change it ends up making those who accept it and play it well appear that much more exceptional. 

Why? Because the game doesn’t change and our hindbrains know this. So when we see a man who is a “good player” of the game we evolved to play, who became so in spite of all the foolish efforts to change the game to better fit those who don’t play it well, our instincts are attracted to that person that much more. In other words the guy who Just Gets It is even more attractive in a world that women’s hindbrains know is trying to convince her that he shouldn’t just get it. This is why even the most staunch, egalitarian equalist feminist of women still adore a conventionally masculine man who looks and plays the natural role of Alpha man well. They still want to bang him, they still want to submit to him in spite of their ego investments. And they’ll coyly, shamefully, but without any self-consciousness admit they love being loved, fucked, protected, secured, etc. by that guy.

As an adaptation to increase the likelihood of reproduction men and women seek to change the Game that we’ve been playing for 100,000 years now. Only in our age of “gender enlightenment” are we so deluded as to think that prioritizing our emotion or reason above the realities our evolved instinct is spelling out for us might be a way to get intimate and reproduce. Women want to change men’s evolved sexual natures – via social constructionism, feminism, feminine-primacy – in order to reproduce with men they would naturally never have a chance breeding or pairing with, and without any burden of their own performance or merit. They want to change the Game to suit their deficits in playing it the way it is.

Similarly, men seek to improve their own reproductive success by also redefining the terms of the Game to also breed and pair (mostly breed) with women that their own Burden of Performance would merit them. This is why transvaluation (vulnerability is strength, etc.) features so prominently in this mindset. It is an effort in achieving reproductive success and intimacy without excelling in a man’s performance burden. This is precisely why Blue Pill men insist on defining Alpha and Beta in as literal a sense as possible. By rejecting and mocking these terms it self-reinforces the misbelief that they, and ‘quality’ women, have evolved beyond the visceral aspects of Hypergamy. By denying the realities of Alpha and Beta aspects in men the belief is it sets them apart from any natural dominance hierarchy. They’re “above all that”, “women (at least the ‘quality’ ones) are rational agents too and above their own Hypergamous impulses” and “people are all unique individuals set apart from all that human nature stuff.” Each of these rationales is linked to a core misbelief in blank-slate equalism (I’ll address in another essay), but they are also representative of an effort to remove these men from a natural dominance hierarchy and place them into a new Game they believe women are also playing and in which they, by default, are at the highest degree by virtue of having progressed beyond the old Game.

 

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Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

” ya that’s what lumberjacks are paid to do. and it’s very likely I’ll ever have to fix an engine when self driving cars become mainstream lol”

the future of men is done. My daughter said something similar to this to me not very long ago.

j
j
3 years ago

@blax

Predictable response lmao. I’ll only address this:

“most people I know irl that aren’t female don’t give a rats ass about who’s banging who. I only ever see this kind of thing in the sphere”

uhhhhh no duh. cause most people you know irl are blue pill betas. and they’re not the ones going around banging bitches. I see you must not hang around many playas…

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

lol. It would astonish you my friend.

j
j
3 years ago

@blax

“Standard of some sort?”

because that gives other people seeking advice on relationships with girls (raised in this culture) authority. (I personally only listen to only a select few men on advice wrt women). Ignore anyone who doesn’t fit this criteria because what they have to say may be outdated dating advice.

There.

j
j
3 years ago

“My daughter said something similar to this to me not very long ago.”

you’ve raised a very smart girl. Congrats

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

Blax

“the future of men is done.”

There will always be a remnant…

And lacrosse and hockey will do their parts by Zeus!

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

How old were you j, when you first heard the word ” playa “?

And where pray tell, did that word even come from son?

Hint: RSD didn’t come up with. Neither did Ya. Or Mystery even.

kfg
kfg
3 years ago

I’m not entirely sure where the connection between self-driving and self-repairing comes in.

j
j
3 years ago

@blax

I don’t give a fuck where the word came from. irrelevant.

@kfg

give it time

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

On Hardwick… Not read much on that link, early in it seemed that Dykstra (cray cray family) cheated on him during the relationship. So everything that follows is just more chumpery taking place. And his response – can you see James Woods responding differently?

More beta Metoo angst.

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

Rollo what’s up with the comment filter and killing inline graphics?

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

Lol.

Okay then. Debate over.

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

” I don’t give a fuck where the word came from. irrelevant. ”

Priceless.

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6oXGYhRXYmA

Remember to keep your head up out there gents.

j
j
3 years ago

@Sentient

you do realize I went to high school and college with big strong lax bros in Massachusetts (I played football (defensive end cause I know I’m gonna be asked) but that’s not as alpha as lax/hockey) not too long ago? majority of them were blue pill alphas lol

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

You said upthread that most people are BP… 😋

I hold out hope for you yet though J… This is just a phase you are going through atm.

Maybe start with an oil change, see how that goes.

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

j has most of his shit completely together, but sometimes he goes through a YaReally brain fart.

I don’t hold it against him…. playa.

SJF
SJF
3 years ago

@Anonymous Reader “I’m on travel and re-reading Biology of Desire on Kindle. It is striking how similar chemical addiction is to extreme depressive states, and thus to TFL / MGTOW. In all cases there’s a deep path dug in neuroplastic terms, and as with the 12-step approach the first thing to do is admit a problem exists, but the groupthink in TFL and MGTOW won’t let that happen. The executive part of the brain clearly is shut out of the loop, a person exists at the lowest level of time, maybe in the one-day cycle. That’s not a bad definition… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

Yeah, but after a while I figured there must be some upgrade or something going on. Every time I pst a comment, I have to put muh credentials in. That clued me in. Progress must progress.

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

lol….wtf????

boulderhead
3 years ago

@J

If you check the patent on “antislip panty grip” it was applied for in the first week of operations.

Not an original invention.

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

I’ll be here regardless….purple or not.

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

Boulder

Lucky you didn’t get the crooked face thing.

kfg
kfg
3 years ago

Well that’s . . . different.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

Getting laid a lot isn’t reproductive advantage. As long as the woman frustrates conception she’s not all that interested in your sexual success, only her atm pleasure, not yours.

No one is eulogized by their n count.

Sentient
Sentient
3 years ago

Avatar check

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
3 years ago

So this place is turning into ROK now?

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

it’s like a man tasting ice cream for the very first time and losing his shit, demanding to know why everyone he sees isn’t eating ice cream 24/7, because it’s so delicious.

Then you add in other dudes telling the guy to never stop eating ice cream. Giving seminars and hot seats geared towards the pursuit and consumption of all kinds of ice cream….as long as it’s all gourmet ice cream from specific creameries.

And under no circumstances can one eat vanilla, chocolate or strawberry because it’s lame as fuck.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
3 years ago

Dogshit kinda looks like ice cream from a distance, just sayin.

having a bad day
having a bad day
3 years ago

[shakin’ the dice…]

come on, avatar !!!!

[throw those dice!!!…]

lol…

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
3 years ago

@ j “Fox’s biggest issue is his choice to live in a remote place with few women around and his scarcity mindset.” lol doesn’t matter where he chooses to live. If we were gaming in the same venue on a Saturday night, I would destroy him (no offense bro!!!) @ Sentient “Fox is a hobbled shell of his old self… That’d be a hollow victory.” Gentlemen, i do find it rather amusing that i have made such an impression on you, even whilst my mojo has eluded me for the past few months. However, no need to write me off… Read more »

Agent P
Agent P
3 years ago

Avatar roulette…

Roused
Roused
3 years ago

It’s not Boy Scouts where we all have to give a shit about earning our Sentient/SJF badge for chopping down a tree and fixing an engine. I was your age (once) and really pushed back hard at established traditions, values and the advice of older people. It was cool and hip, or so I thought. Lordy, if I had had an old geezer like Blax or SJF to give me tips I would saved myself a lot of bluepill heartache. The tree chopping thing stood out as I’ve had some surprisingly good experiences with swinging an axe. Not just to… Read more »

boulderhead
3 years ago

@J

This is the case,my wife has a pulse,is on social media,drives a vehicle,has a vagna,has orbiters,is a member of the “sisterhood uber alles” and hasn’t moved on for 37 years.

The reason is my game was better than the other guys, a ring doesn’t plug any holes.

kfg
kfg
3 years ago

“So who woulda thunk chopping firewood would generate tingles? ”

I’ve said it a number of times before, I’ll say it again now, and will no doubt do so in the future:

A man can best judge the looks of a woman when she’s asleep.

A woman can best judge the looks of a man when he’s chopping wood.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

Fox, “I’ve recently been reflecting upon how well i’ve done in the past with the girls (yes, it does count, just like the number…” Beware friend. Only you care about your n-count. Women care in so far as you can dread them or use it as DHV, aka is it getting you laid. It’s a tool, not a laurel wreath. ‘Round here people pay to run marathons. They’re not running for the ability to marathon, they’re paying for the validation that comes with the formalities of the process. Nobody but them cares about their split times after a week or… Read more »

The Solitary Silver FoX
The Solitary Silver FoX
3 years ago

@ Eh Yes, i’m aware of all that. It is just to remind myself that i have had good game and not to get too down on myself. Sure, i have plenty of Red Pill improvement in me, but i’m no chump either. I have been pedastalizing pussy and coming from a place of scarcity and getting down on myself. But fuck that, i’m snapping out of my funk and getting my head right again. Watching someone successful like Bourdain destroy himself over a skank like AA has helped bring me back to reality. It’s a big wake up call… Read more »

The Silver FoX
The Silver FoX
3 years ago

Love my gravitar! That’s how i’m rolling again, sans “solitary”, even though i currently still am…

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

Roused You brought a tear to my eye talking about chopping wood. I used to spend summers with my grandparents in rural ( and I mean RURAL ) Virginia. My grandfather demanded it. It was like time traveling, as we lived in a 2 story lot cabin with no running water and wood stoves. The one in the kitchen was a massive beast yet beautiful at the same time. Every morning at sunrise my grandfather would chop wood before heading off to work. As a young boy, I couldn’t wait to get big enough to swing his axe. In my… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

My two cents about women and labor and who does what…. I got myself in beta trouble by assuming all home maintenance duties. I’d let her paint a room. I, as a WK, thought it was my duty to do these things but at the end of the day, she really didn’t care about my skills. She’d compliment and fuck me dutifully, sure. Eventually I started equating, expecting appreciation of my skills and the betaization happened. She did too. It benefitted her, and other marriages fx that way, so why not? Only after I backed off the work, work, work… Read more »

Roused
Roused
3 years ago

@Blax It’s sweet how such simple things can bring great satisfaction. That is a pretty damn solid list of learning, impressive. Out of all those I did not get taught early the hunting, trapping, house framing and roofing would be valuable to learn, even at my age. I’m looking forward to some future hunting once I get the appropriate firearm. I’ve met a red pill guy IRL who has some expertise in that. I taught my son how to split firewood when he was big enough to swing the axe, around 11 if I recall right. He is a big… Read more »

curiosity
curiosity
3 years ago

Rollo you seem like a person who is pretty committed to logic, I appreciate that as I am similar. What do you use your emotions for, like do you see the purpose of emotions? Seems like anyone who’s too far down the emotional spectrum ends up behaving retarded. Women and betas are very, very emotional, and honestly every time I see the shit some of them do and then try to explain their own reasoning, I’m like holy mother of god how does this person make it in their day to day life without dying.

Johnny Liebling
Johnny Liebling
3 years ago

Moving into nursing field. I am older 48. The females dominate this field and use passive aggressive manipulation, or female speak. I am being bullied with this non-confrontational shit and I need advice on how to counter this. Recently unplugged. What do you suggest?

OldSilver
OldSilver
3 years ago

Any thoughts how personality traits (Big 6 or HEXACO) correlates with Alpha/Beta paradigm? I would argue that disagreeableness, low humility, low neuroticism correlates with Alpha. It is known fact that dark triad correlates with women sexual interest. So it is conservable that some personality traits are naturally more Alpha and some are more Beta. As theory goes personality traits is fixed by genetics as well as looks. Women does not explicitly rank men as HM 0 to 10, it may be due to fact that metrics is not one dimensional as HB 0-10 for men (genetics component only), but multi… Read more »

theasdgamer
3 years ago

Johnny, you must make sure that you are respected and feared…”He whose displeasure is feared.”

If you know who the instigators are, you could tell them something like, “I got fired from my last three jobs for beating up a woman who displeased me. But you all are so nice, I’d never do that here.” Don’t be so obvious when you say it, but leave them with the impression that you’ve beat up women before.

Chump No More
Chump No More
3 years ago

“If you know who the instigators are, you could tell them something like, “I got fired from my last three jobs for beating up a woman who displeased me. But you all are so nice, I’d never do that here.” Don’t be so obvious when you say it, but leave them with the impression that you’ve beat up women before.” @Gamer, that is actually very shitty advise. At best, it’s equally passive-aggressive (female) behavior and, at worst, it’s overt intimidation which would get him fired and black-balled in the industry in a nano-second. HR departments will always ‘believe the woman’… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

Johnny, Understand they are women and as such are in a generally crouched defensive posture though think men who work in female jobs are weak. If you relax and do a good job they’ll chill out. Do not use your workplace as a harem. It will backfire. Get a hot girlfriend and that’ll establish your DHV. Women smell fear and men in your field are beta or worse….so walk the line of quiet, direct, competent Alpha and they’ll look up to you. Yes, they like all women, will try to get you to pull a larger share of the work… Read more »

theasdgamer
3 years ago

at worst, it’s overt intimidation

Work on your reading skills…”Don’t be so obvious when you say it, but leave them with the impression that you’ve beat up women before.”

It’s a covert message, not overt.

theasdgamer
3 years ago

If you relax and do a good job they’ll chill out.

only if you also have game–otherwise, they’ll use you like a ten dollar whore

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

@ ass

If he shows his concern or avoidance in any way, that’ll telegraph weakness.

Being chill is game.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

Sorry ASD about the typo.

kfg
kfg
3 years ago

@Johnny Liebling: “What do you suggest?”

Unlike back in the day when they were putting the squeeze on independent truckers leading to my cousin moving from trucking into nursing, there is a currently a trucker shortage.

Chump No More
Chump No More
3 years ago

Work on your reading skills…”Don’t be so obvious when you say it, but leave them with the impression that you’ve beat up women before.” @Gamer, doesn’t matter if it’s covert or overt, that’s ‘creating a hostile work environment’ through intimidation and it will get you fired. Full stop. In today’s “Me too” environment, a woman on the receiving end of that message, regardless of how covert you are with your ‘impression’, will march straight up to HR and you will be gone. Women know they have the upper-hand and they are not afraid (in fact, they’re eager) to use that… Read more »

Anon
Anon
3 years ago

They have thesaying, “nurses eat their young” for a reason. It sucks to be a new nurse. Floor is worst, I recommend the ER there seem to be more men there and the mentality is better (no time for bullshit)

theasdgamer
3 years ago

Sorry ASD about the typo. it was funny 🙂 @chump doesn’t matter if it’s covert or overt lol, don’t be silly that’s ‘creating a hostile work environment’ through intimidation and it will get you fired. None of that shit matters if you have game…and if you don’t have game, you’re fucked anyway–Catch 22 Women know they have the upper-hand and they are not afraid (in fact, they’re eager) to use that power. “Women know they have the upper-hand and they are not afraid (in fact, they’re eager) to use that power against men who lack inner game.” fify… Gamer Maxim… Read more »

Chump No More
Chump No More
3 years ago

@Gamer,

Key phrase here is “inner game”. In that context, I don’t disagree, but this guy is new to red pill preaxeology and has none. What you are recommending is a level of self-esteem, confidence, mastery, abundance, and Frame that is way above his pay grade and will get him fired.

Give him actionable advise that he can use now.

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

Johnny Frame. Masculine frame. Being recently unplugged, you should have a handle on the nature of most women in different settings. Watch them operate like you were watching a national geographic program. Bullying only ever works if you chose to allow it to work. Same with any manipulation. Maintain your mpoo. You aren’t there to get entangled in the stuff of female nurses. You’re there to do your job as best you can, and go home. If you react at all, just do so with amusement. You don’t really have to ” set anyone straight ” or try to lay… Read more »

theasdgamer
3 years ago

Chump, I take your point. It’s good for Johnny to know what he should eventually aim for. Probably outside of his ken where he is, but maybe a seed has been planted. And maybe for other lurkers as well.

In other words, you’re a duck and they are water”

An Anglo aphorism: “Like water off a duck’s back”

Maintain your mpoo.

Warren Beatty for 200 and “What is Shampoo?”

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

Johnny’s feeling some heat as he’s awakened to his previous behavior and wants more frame in an eqialist-above-all workplace. He’s asserting himself more and others will take notice that he’s not playing nice. He doesn’t have to…but then he must accept the reaction. Women play equalist otj but not so much off. Work doesn’t have to be social dominance hour so keep out of the petty chick drama games and you’ll be a considered a balancing male Alpha counterweight. ASD, a physical response is overeacting to routine daily chick testiness . That talk is more appropriate for a construction site,… Read more »

theasdgamer
3 years ago

@EI Sure, Johnny can ignore the shit-testing, but that’s not gonna help him grow and he needs to practice and get some experience enforcing his boundaries. If he pushes back, there will be quite a few chicks who support him for showing some balls. Brings me to my experience where I enforced my boundaries as an example to Johnny. I was at a party in college and took a girl out from the party to make out. Long story, short, she was unhaaaappy afterwards and whined to her sorority who helped to fund and prepare for the party. Unexpectedly to… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

He’s not ready for confrontation. He’s rattled by shit testing. Yes, ASD, in time he’ll be there.

Igoring is passive boundry enforcement. No one’s attacking his right to employment, just his right to feel invalidated.

Johnny’s ATM getting rattled at pithy relavances. The battle is in his head. He’s seeing opportunity to improve but isn’t sure where he’s at and as he’s fresh to the job…he best play as you described: Cheerful, attractive, not unattractive guy.

The rest will take care of itself.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
3 years ago

…right to feel validated….

Blaximus
Blaximus
3 years ago

The art is in pushback sans verbage.

Become a telepathic motherfucker.😁😁

theasdgamer
3 years ago

Blax, I’m reading you loud and clear. It’s all in the frame and nonverbals, amirite? Verbals are just for our own amusement?

marelius
marelius
3 years ago

@ASD, Having game will only work in the workplace on the women who play at that game. From the sound of your advice, it doesn’t appear that you have spent the quality hours in the HR training programs that all of the employees of the fortune 500 have been subjected to for the last 35 years. There are women in the workplace who are ugly, bitter and mad at every guy they see – female incels – and they will do you in the moment they sniff that the game is afoot. Their anger and self-righteousness makes them hair-trigger prone… Read more »

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robert king
robert king
7 months ago

https://americanmind.org/salvo/the-last-days-of-women/.

I found this introspection of a woman on the sexual revolution and the price exacted,

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