In a couple of weeks I’ll be making my first and only personal appearance this year at the 21 Convention in Orlando, Florida. This event will be unique in a number of ways. To my knowledge, this convention will be the first large-scale gathering of Red Pill writers, bloggers, podcast hosts and thought-leaders ever organized. I’m truly appreciative of Anthony Johnson in being open to my suggestions for speakers. It was a collaborative effort in this regard and over the course of this year we did our best to collect a group of speakers who would represent many different aspects of Red Pill intersexual dynamics. My only regrets are that we couldn’t fit more speakers in to the schedule and some men I highly respect were unable to attend this year.
It was my hope that this ‘new and improved’ 21 Convention might eventually be an annual Red Pill summit of sorts. This build up hasn’t been without a bit of controversy from the previous Purple Pill speakers who used the 21 Convention’s prior events as a platform for their blogs and coaching businesses. That was to be expected just as the same tired criticisms of the Red Pill were too. I have no doubt that the previous ‘life coaches’ taking issue with this event’s Red Pill turn sincerely believe they have some valuable insights to help men become ‘better men’. The problem, however, becomes one of how these coaches would direct men according to the Blue Pill preconditioning they have never been able to disabuse themselves of.
I understand the necessity these guys must feel with regards to discrediting the Red Pill as a praxeology. The dots we connect in Red Pill awareness are often at odds with their deeply held Blue Pill ego-investments and hopes, as well as a threat to their (often LARPy moralistic) “Man Up but not too much” profit model. In fact, even just the idea that the Red Pill should be a praxeology of men’s collective experiences about intersexual dynamics is enough to make them want to disqualify it. Their criticism is that, as a praxeology, the Red Pill is long on explanations and short on solutions – solutions you can presumably get by signing up for their email blasts and coaching sessions.
The praxeology that is the Red Pill is inconvenient for them because it tears away the veneer of their Blue Pill idealism about women and reveals some very unflattering truths about them and the feminine on-whole which they still largely have on a pedestal in their heads. Red Pill awareness has a way of exposing the pretty lies that make for the good marketing material that most Purple Pill coaches depend on for their livelihoods. I mean, when 80%+ of men are Beta, who wouldn’t want to buy the secret 12 point list of things a man must do to be a real man and get the woman of his dreams?
Two Complaints
There are generally two common complaints I read coming from Purple Pill life dating coaches. The first is easy, and one I’ve refuted so many times I wont bore you with repeating myself, and that’s the presumption that Red Pill awareness must be false or detrimental to a guy because it makes guys so angry with women. This is the easiest dismissal for critics because it is true; men do go through a phase of anger when they unplug from the Blue Pill illusions they’ve been so convinced of for the better part of a lifetime. And yes, some get stuck in this phase and some do become despondent because they don’t want to face the abyss it represents to them. Some go MGTOW, some turn into Purple Pill coaches themselves because they don’t want to accept the whole of what Red Pill awareness means. But most men go through this phase and come to an acceptance that there is hope in a Red Pill paradigm for them. They come to see their new awareness as a safety net and boldly embrace rebuilding themselves into better men based on this full awareness.
So the sales pitch then becomes, “Don’t be angry with women like those Red Pill guys. You can still live in Blue Pill happiness and harmony with a loving unicorn ‘Quality‘ woman by following these 5 simple steps to make yourself into the man women want you to be.”
What the Purple Pill anger critics (deliberately) refuse to get is that the Red Pill isn’t (and was never) intended to get men to hate women, but rather to inform men about the inherent nature of women so they wont hate women for what they can never be to them. This is the disillusionment that men who still cling to Blue Pill idealism can’t seem to get past – they cannot abandon those Blue Pill hopes that they believe women are capable of fulfilling for him, but the Red Pill disabuses him of. So they get angry. They get angry at themselves for ever having believed in them. They get angry for having wasted so much time investing themselves in them. They get angry, most importantly, because they realize that women simply aren’t built to fulfill the hopes his Blue Pill conditioning made him believe should be possible.
The Purple Pill coach believes that this Red Pill realization leads to men hating women. The second complaint I read from them is that Red Pill awareness gives men some license to feeling like victims. This criticism is deductive to coaches for two reasons; it serves his ‘get-rich-quick-on-the-internet-by-selling-sunshine’ man-up and do better to qualify for women blog template, and it discourages men seeking answers from becoming Red Pill aware in a way that crushes their still Blue Pill belief set.
For the record, and as boldly as I can put this, if you are Red Pill aware man and still believe you are a victim of some sort because of your previous Blue Pill indenturement to pedestalizing women or the Feminine Imperative, you are only a victim of your own lack of vision. Red Pill awareness has set you free – free from the blur and distraction that a feminine-primary social order would pull over your eyes, free from the delusional Blue Pill hopes that are only greater shackles for a man, and free from never seeing the intersexual pitfalls you were prone to fall into before. But Red Pill awareness comes at a cost; the truth may set you free, but it doesn’t make it pretty. If you have a responsibility as a Red Pill aware man it’s that you are never allowed to play the victim. You now know the rules of engagement. Play it well, change the rules if you can, but you are no longer allowed to say you didn’t know the score.
Most Purple Pill coaches know this victim complex is bullshit, so they deliberately conflate Red Pill awareness with MGTOW or the MRM or even the “flip side of feminism” in an effort to muddy the waters and dissuade men, who are genuinely hurting and seeking answers, away from the real life-changing influence that the Red Pill represents.
When I petitioned my readers to leave a testimonial as to why they thought the Red Pill represented more confidence or a ‘safety net’ to them I got much more than I anticipated from that comment thread. I had been looking for some good quotes to add to the back cover of Positive Masculinity, but what I got was over a thousand revelations about the power that Red Pill awareness has in changing men’s lives for the better. These are men who took what the Red Pill had shown them and transformed their lives with that knowledge. They did this because Red Pill awareness empowered them, gave them the tools, to implement changes in themselves and how they interacted with women and a feminized world. They did so without anger or feeling like victims, and they did so without a Purple Pill hack trying to coax them back onto the plantation and into their failed, and false, Blue Pill belief sets.
And this is what scares the coaches; that a free and open source Red Pill praxeology is responsible for more men taking the initiative and bettering themselves than anything their ‘coaching’ has been responsible for.
Personal Development
I am not now, nor have I ever been a motivational speaker, a ‘guru’ of any stripe, a psychotherapist or a personal development coach. Though I’m humbled to be counted among the Godfathers of the Red Pill, I have never claimed ownership of the Red Pill. It’s always been my belief that the Red Pill – the true Red Pill that has always been about intersexual dynamics – should be an ‘open source’ community. Decentralization is one of its strengths, but it also allows for bastardization from men and women who want to define it.
In each of my books and on this blog I’ve made things plain about my non-approach to men and their own personal development; I’m not interested in making better men, I’m interested in men making themselves better men. I am not interest in making men “Tomassi Men” or in anyway selling them on a template for what I think a real man ought to be. My life and my interpretations of it are not going to be a template for anyone else to follow. Red Pill awareness, based on the praxeology of intersexual dynamics in the personal and social realms, will save and/or improve your life, but that life has to be lived by you as an individual.
That said, of course I realize that men seeking answers will want a codified system of guidelines for their own personal development. I’m not the guy who’s going to give that to you, neither is that Purple Blue Pill life coach with the 12 point plan, neither is the motivational speaker selling you the same tired power of positivity message that’s been around since the 1930s. You are going to come up with that plan, you are going to take what the Red Pill makes you aware of and you are going to apply it to how you live your life. And you will have the satisfaction of knowing that your personal development and the successes (and failures) that came from it authentically came from your own plan and according to your judgement, not someone else’s vision or template.
I wanted to take a moment in this post to preface the 21 Convention by addressing the ways in which men come to unplug themselves from their old, Blue Pill conditioned way of life and reconstruct themselves. Reader Blaximus added this in a recent comment thread and it sums things up well:
Fourth: there is no ‘ system ‘ for teaching or learning Game. None. The process is highly individualized and virtually no two guys will learn at the same rate, or achieve the exact same level of understanding or real world application. No cheat sheets in game. You either get it and apply it and internalize it, or you don’t. It’s not about picking up chicks in clubs. That’s PUA. Game picks up chicks at a funeral. Lol. True game will be disliked by the masses.
Far too many Purple Pill dating coaches don’t want to get this in their heads. They think that because the Red Pill is a praxeology it implies it’s a cop out on developing real solutions for guys. They either don’t understand the necessity for men’s individual needs to personally develop Game for themselves, or they need a convenient dismissal of the Red Pill as ‘those angry guys have no answers’.
I have stressed in more essays than I care to recount the importance of combining what the Red Pill informs Game about with what Game informs the Red Pill about. One is the theoretical, the other is the practical, and neither is complete without the other. Yes, it is entirely vital that you, as a Red Pill aware man, get out into the field to employ the ideas, and test the practicality of how the Red Pill relates to your situation in your environment according to your strengths and gifts. That field may be a night club, or day Game on the street, in a social circle, with your wife of 10 years or in your churches singles’ group. The fact remains, Red Pill awareness is applicable through Game in a variety of environments, social and cultural contexts.
Game Works, but it only works if you turn off the computer and do something. How do you learn from a book? You put it down and you go outside (and yes, that counts for my books too). Investing oneself in Red Pill awareness as a praxeology is not a cop out for coming up with real solutions – it gives men a toolset from which they can create their own solutions. What frightens Purple Pill coaches is that men’s individual solutions, often enough, don’t affirm their Blue Pill romanticizations, their pretenses of morality, or their idealistic inability to look at the abyss and find hope on the other side of it. They want solutions, but they want their solutions to be affirmed by a Red Pill awareness that contradicts their ego-investments.
When your revenue depends on not getting it it’s hard to convince a Blue Pill man otherwise.
I will be discussing aspects of this essay at the 21 Convention in just two weeks. If you are attending I’d like to take this opportunity to extend you a personal invitation to talk with me at the convention and possibly have dinner with my colleagues and I at the event. On the topic of just getting out there in the field and doing it, I know that my friends Christian McQueen and Goldmund will be heading out into the wilds of the Orlando nightlife and I will be accompanying them on at least one of these outings.
Lastly, if you are in the Central Florida area, or if you want to make the drive in for the weekend, and you really really want to attend the convention, but just can’t come up with the funds, hit me up via email, Twitter or leave a message on my About page here and I will personally see about getting you some kind of hardship discount. Remember, this is only if you’re truly desperate to attend.
See you in two weeks.
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If-I-Fell “Ukrainians (Corns) There was a Ukrainian Festival in my region. I was curious, but the wife didn’t want to go. So, I ended up taking her to a different themed festival. It’s always an eye-opener. How much more can women (some men too) do to to make themselves “violently” unattractive. Face tattoos, multiple piercings through the nose, mermaid hair, obesity and much, much more. I had a self-amusing thought about Ukrainicorns. There was a possibility for “success” in this situation that I don’t think was covered. If the Ukrainicorn becomes a Ukraineosaur before being able to execute the branch… Read more »
@rugby
Polygamy is using marriage to spin plates.
“There is an asymmetry in LTR Game and STR Game. ”
Yeah, because women change their mental circuitry once they marry. so silly
“I’m slipping…”
It takes the wisdom to discriminate and calibrate Red Pill Awareness and Game.
“Yeah, because women change their mental circuitry once they marry. so silly”
I don’t find it silly. If find it how it is, not how it ought-to-be. It is part of The Game. I’m serious. But treating is as a Game makes it more fun. You know that.
I have know several men who did the mail order bride deal with long term success. #1) they all could get laid in the usa on the regular #2) they weren’t looking for love or any of that bullshit. #3) they were living in Eurpoe when the deals were made. Wasn’t a penpal situation. It was more of an LDR situation #4)it was sort of a follow the leader type event. Dude#1 married a Slovenian hottie. 2-3 years later she started to introduce his friends to her cousins and what not. 4 dudes married 4 chicks from the same family.… Read more »
if a man has a plan to enter markets with barriers to entry like medicine, law, education – anything with government oversight and licensing, college is a pretty good idea even though it’s in a massive bubble. the bankers will make sure that bubble is one of the last to pop. student load debt will never be dischargeable in bankruptcy ever again and no senator is going to vote for a student loan debt jubilee. ever. so if you want to play in their sandboxes, you have to pay. the alternative is brute competition in markets with no barriers to… Read more »
Rollo
Well…. I look at it like this: There’s nothing, and I mean nothing that anyone can ” learn ” in college that can’t be learned outside of it. Getting a degree doesn’t make anyone smart, it means they passed the tests and did the work. That’s pretty much it. It’s debatable whether they learned anything. And as far as business/finance goes, if you’re not a fan of current business climate wrt big corp and banks, understand that the colleges teach these same operating procedures to the students. MBA’s are taught how to rob and steel in the hopes that Chase… Read more »
“It takes the wisdom to discriminate and calibrate Red Pill Awareness and Game.” Yes some of us do this consciously until we can do it unconsciously (a goal personified by Blax and Ton). I had a great week doing this. Deer camp with the guys. Married Red Pill back home. Best week ever. Not that its not good on the regular. Good thing I’m a wise old motherfucker. https://infogalactic.com/info/Action_axiom In Human Action, Ludwig von Mises defined “action” in the sense of the action axiom by elucidating: “Human action is purposeful behavior. Or we may say: Action is will put into… Read more »
Freaking Frame
https://twitter.com/JRart/status/909061779317297154
“And as far as business/finance goes, if you’re not a fan of current business climate wrt big corp and banks, understand that the colleges teach these same operating procedures to the students. MBA’s are taught how to rob and steel in the hopes that Chase will hire them. Lol.
It would be really nice if college actually taught people how to think and improved their ability to do so.”
Revolutions and zero’s…
@Fleezer
Am I wrong in my impression that you changed your personality from a nihilist to and idealist in the past year?
It sure strikes me as a take on you.
And I admire that if it is a correct take. It strikes me as you are more in control of Knowing Thyself. I say more in control in the context of it never seemed that you weren’t in the first place–distinct respect and homage to you, no matter what.
What is going on with your Psyche? It sure seems good, masculine wise.
STR game = LTR game…no diff except the shit tests get harder in LTR game
STR game you DHV, give comfort as needed, hold frame, multiply options to generate preselection and non-neediness, pass shit tests
LTR game you DHV, give comfort as needed, hold frame, multiply options to generate preselection and non-neediness, pass shit tests
same shit, piled higher
Hank Moody interviews Janie Jones in regards to Lew Ashby and why it never worked out for Lew. And Lew never quite recovered. His heart never quite aligned with his brain. He remained a lost boy. Not by choice but by default. Default is either good or bad. Depending on whether it is just a plateau in your life or a stepping stone on the assault on your ascent to your higher plane and decided purpose:
https://youtu.be/f4ut0K3Eeso
That last comment was an example of a Child Playing with Dynamite (Lew Ashby rose to his level of incompetence in his past, and he was determined to never do that again, so he defaulted to his Archetype.The same archetype as Hank Moody, which Hand cant quite grasp.It is up to a MRP man, to grasp what he actually wants. That would help his purpose and mission.). A hope for blue pill aspirations beset by an Alpha frame (Lew Ashby in Californication). Which is different than a greater Beta, lesser Alpha wrapped in a Red Pill frame moving toward as… Read more »
If I Fell, Two quotes from you; “If enjoying 20 year old naked females is your mission or a part of it, (like I told Mersonia) then have at it.” “I made no assumption of knowing you or your mission.” Interesting. Also, I’m living my ‘better idea’ to the best of my ability. I’m always trying to figure it out, admit when I’m wrong, admit things I regret. That’s why the “I’m a father and it’s the only way” bromide is a cop out to me. I hope you are too, honestly. My sentence about the daughters was poorly constructed.… Read more »
@Blaximus
Relevant part at 2:17…
https://youtu.be/QnZ0Y4rvz6E
A girl friend of Mrs. Gamer’s and mine heard I was going to Mrs. Gamer’s high school reunion and the friend was surprised…she said I had better behave, lol. I replied that I was going to prank people and flirt with girls and be the perfect Casanova gentleman and she giggled and so did Mrs. Gamer. I told Mrs. Gamer 10 o’clock while she was on the phone and 10 o’clock came and went and Mrs. Gamer told her friend she had to go to bed and Mrs. Gamer came to me and asked the time and I said that… Read more »
College is the place you go to be indoctrinated into thinking dumb shit like there are 27 genders, kids as young as 2 can be transexual, borders should be porous, guns are bad, animals have rights, queers should marry, islam is a religion of peace and you need a college degree to make 7 figures
I find that I can manage them a whole lot better than I first thought because my skills have improved
…………
Best damn thing you have ever written
“Reality, women say that they prefer men 4-5 years older than them.”
They mostly prefer men who aren’t pussies. That can be younger men or way older than them.
Statistically it’s more like 5-7 years older and the primary reason is an evolved and practical one: Hypergamy needs certainty. Hypergamy wants a man that is a proven commodity in the long term. It can’t afford to take chances with men’s potentials unless that potential is a veritable certainty. Thus, Hypergamy wants the ‘made man’ in preference to the ‘potential man’. Because it takes longer for a man to ‘make’ himself that man is uniformly older than the woman herself.
https://therationalmale.com/2011/11/11/the-mature-man/
@Ton College is the place you go to be indoctrinated into thinking dumb shit like there are 27 genders, kids as young as 2 can be transexual, borders should be porous, guns are bad, animals have rights, queers should marry, islam is a religion of peace and you need a college degree to make 7 figures Yeah they didn’t have that shit back in my day. Or if the did, non of it made it to the curriculum and was probably festering as ‘student activities’. I remember there being a “Gender Studies” faculty back in the early 80’s though. Probably… Read more »
I had to unlearn so much that I was taught in high school and college. Shit is taught in elementary these days, too.
4 dudes married 4 chicks from the same family. Longest running marriage is 23 years, shortest is 15 years.
The composition of a particular herd can make or break. They can encourage each other to cash out and look for a better deal, or reinforce each other on how clever they are in the deals they already made.
Men often operate from an internal gyroscope, women look to the opinions of others.
SCF ton been making me laugh with comments on this tread. Make me think red pill wisdom is best spread with humor and comedy. Most men find red pill thru traumatic life changing shit. To reach out to blue pill men who have not experienced the harsh reality of the FI. Comic relief is the best way to get the messsge across them.
There’s nothing, and I mean nothing that anyone can ” learn ” in college that can’t be learned outside of it. kfg can probably list dozens of prominent men that never went but are responsible for some of mankind’s greatest achievements. I went to a college. I learned about the high dam at Aswan in Egypt. That’s what I remember from my academic career. Could have read it in the encyclopaedia and saved some money. Oh, and I experienced or witnessed many TRM style field reports without having the slightest clue what was going on. I would have to say… Read more »
” . . . being a redneck bumpkin is always a possiblilty . . .”
There is, or at least used to be, such a thing as the redneck, autodidact scholar.
“Yeah they didn’t have that shit back in my day. Or if the did, non of it made it to the curriculum . . . ”
That depends on the field. It’s been in the sociology curriculum for more than a century, but intersectional physics and feminist programming are a pretty new thing. Mandatory freshman indoctrination courses started experimentally in the mid 70s.
Keith – what Ton says is not comic in and of itself…. what makes it kinda funny at times is the unexpected-ness or novelty of hearing certain things said out loud in today’s society
and they’re only unexpected because the FI has diminished what was once fairly common-sensical masculine traits and turned them into aberrations for amusement and circus freak finger pointing
and that is the commentary on today’s FI-soaked society…. 200 years ago Ton’s statements would be met with a ‘no-shit’ grunt instead of giggling at his naughty boy boldness
“kfg can probably list dozens of prominent men that never went but are responsible for some of mankind’s greatest achievements.”
Pretty much the history of 19th century America. Edison is the most obvious example. There are also quite a few who went, but found themselves incompatible with academia and didn’t graduate. Bucky Fuller is the first name that pops into my mind.
In a new poll of 2000 adults, Groupon found men feel sex is OK after the fifth date, while women would rather wait until date NINE. (It did report nine times more men than women feel sex is OK on the first date). “Everyone’s waiting longer to have sex” is how Men’s Health parses these results.
@OBIT, self-reporting is the least reliable gauge of human behavior
200 years ago Ton’s statements would be met with a ‘no-shit’ grunt instead of giggling at his naughty boy boldness
Thought for the day.
Bucky Fuller is the first name that pops into my mind.
Buckminster…there’s a moniker for you.
“He was expelled from Harvard twice: first for spending all his money partying with a vaudeville troupe, and then, after having been readmitted, for his “irresponsibility and lack of interest.””
https://infogalactic.com/info/Buckminster_Fuller
“Mandatory freshman indoctrination courses started experimentally in the mid 70s.”
Never saw any of it, but I did go to a Canadian uni. Spent a year in the Arts Faculty (psychology) then switched to Physics then Comp Sci. Smooth sailing feminist-indoctrination-free.
Dr. zipper what I’m saying is there having a convention a meeting of real red pill minded scholars and writers. What will be the outcome of all the efforts and wealth and time spent on this venture ? What’s the best delivery system to teach red pill truth ? I think comedy is the best way to reach the mass of men who live in the dark. Ignorance is blissful and all but unpleasant truths are hard to take in. Humor is the better way to speed the dissemination of knowledge. After a guy has spent half his life getting… Read more »
O.B.I.T.
In a new poll of 2000 adults,
Please provide a link if possible. The age / demographic breakdown of the sample is crucial.
“Mandatory freshman indoctrination courses started experimentally in the mid 70s.” I was lucky in that I missed the fist month of post secondary indoctrination as I was off doing some world championships at the time, getting drunk, being a pirate and all that. Then I lived off campus anyhow so I never knew anything of all that kind of horse shit. On one of the first days I went to campus I was supposed to be in a comp sci class and accidentally walked into a women’s studies class. Too fucking funny. Me, sporto jock looking super tan dude fresh… Read more »
Only dumb fucks pay attention to what women say and ignore what they do.
absolutely, Keith, and sometimes some things can only be said in a comedic way because they speak to truths that are otherwise suppressed, see court jesters, Lenny Bruce, Carlin and this guy, one of my faves….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnyi5u19lt8&t=2m10s
sad that a man seeking the truth has to resort to lurking and being fearful of repercussions should he be found out
that shit should be exalted and honored
and it will be once men find their balls again
Anonymous Reader — Of course I was looking for the poll internals too, but saw no link to that. Men’s Health just did a short piece on the Groupon poll but morning radio people are having a field day with it (e.g. Mark Simone: “The eighth date is when sex STOPS.”)
It’s just too ludicrous to take seriously (even to me, and I’m pretty slow getting to what Dee Snider calls “bangin’ time”) — so we can just wonder what the demographics were, or even what qualified as a “date”
Of course I was looking for the poll internals too, but saw no link to that. Men’s Health just did a short piece on the Groupon poll but morning radio people are having a field day with it (e.g. Mark Simone: “The eighth date is when sex STOPS.”)
Looks like someone bought themselves a soundbite, or it was one of those online “take our poll!” things that’s meaningless. Because who goes on “dates” now? People over 30? Over 40?
Meanwhile while I am at my computer, these brave men (and women) are out there on the streets speaking the truth at the Million Parent March trying to protect families and children from the clutches of system that seeks to profit from divorce. The same system supported by lawyers and feminist and government agencies to extract resources that they can profit from at the expense of children and alienated fathers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xItNyF2z_Q&list=PLm1_Ewa-aQeOVswyLILz4b7KhlKXa227j
These men are exalted and honored to me.
I mentioned it only as an amusing example of the foolishness that’s out there, what people say as opposed to what they actually do. It’s certainly not serious social science. I think we’ve seen that most polls are meant to serve an agenda or at least just get a quick headline
Boy. A million ain’t what it used to be.
Inflation is a bitch.
But wait for the aerial photos!
Seriously, it would be nice to hear media discussing divorce laws instead of some dopey poll on which date to go for the gold
Lol. There’s no gold there, just pussy. Gold is much rarer than pussy. The planet is littered with pussy.
Hence the ludicrousness of the ” poll “. Nobody has to wait for pussy.
Surf City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjwFsS_vmnY
Jan and Dean recorded several great songs. Drag City, Little Old Lady from Pasadena, Dead Man’s Curve
More clowns than fathers.
The Juggalo March had more folks turn out. No idea what they are marching for, but they look like they are passionate too.
http://www.fox25boston.com/news/trending-now/photos-juggalo-march-descends-on-washington-dc/610508896
https://twitter.com/dead_airspace/status/750691058921697280
https://twitter.com/dead_airspace/status/748516730859888640
pinelero
The Juggalo March had more folks turn out. No idea what they are marching for, but they look like they are passionate too.
The Juggalo’s got classified as a gang some years back. They’d like FBI to redact that. Because they may be insane, they may be clowns, they may be part of a posse, but they insist they are not a gang.
I haven’t left a comment in ages, but this post got my juices flowing. It’s easy to forget that there are entire industries that survive by men not being aware of women’s inherent sexual strategies. I can only think of one word for that: damn. Just imagine the shock if you work in such an industry (divorce lawyers maybe?) and you realise the Red Pill community has the potential to ruin yr business and that you’re marriage is a one sided monopoly / joke that you’re unaware of? No wonder they choose the purple pill. Everyone claims to want the… Read more »
x-man, pls comment more often
@Ton (and @DisgruntledEarthling) *College is the place you go to be indoctrinated into thinking dumb shit like there are 27 genders, kids as young as 2 can be transexual, borders should be porous, guns are bad, animals have rights, queers should marry, Islam is a religion of peace and you need a college degree to make 7 figures* I’m in my mid-twenties, and I finished university (or college to the Americans) two years ago; you’re right, but most kids at college/university are well aware they’re being fed bullshit. Everyone on my course knew most of what we were studying could’ve… Read more »
@dr zipper haha, I’ll try
I have not yet meet the Candian who wasnt at least 80% indoctrinated. Hells bells 1st time I listened to Canandain radio it was all SJW tripe all the time.
Seems like you did well X. The Ton salutes your success smashing college ass
I’ve spent nearly $250K on sending my two children to college in the last six years. (And sadly, to me, to a great State School, instead of a private school. I would have opted for status but couldn’t afford it and they didn’t get any less out of it. Anyone I know from this college had great social skills.) I don’t regret a penny of it. I take is as a rite of passage. The kids grew up. And the main value is the self socialization. There wasn’t much helicoptering going on and the kids were free to roam. And… Read more »
… holy shit. 250k.
I’ve seen kids on college campuses
Great sure college retards that maturation process
Blaximus … holy shit. 250k. Yup. There was a sob story a few years back in one of the New York magazines about some girl who had borrowed $100K to get a degree at Columbia – BA in foreign languages, specifically Italian, and no way to get a job to hope to pay that back anytime soon. Used to be only rich folks with connections did that, to go work for State. She’d done what everyone told her to do, and it wasn’t quite turning out as advertised. ROI is not something that’s taught to the general college kid population.… Read more »
SJF’s kids are copper pots…they didn’t owe a home loan without the home when they graduated…most college grads aren’t so fortunate If you work your way thru college, it won’t retard maturing. Working and having your own place for the first time helps you mature. For me, being accepted by a frat gave me confidence and the parties gave me insight about a party mentality, so college helped me to grow. I had my own place and worked for the six months after I graduated from high school as a legal messenger. I worked several blue collar jobs before I… Read more »
…. I’m not paying any school 250k. Fuck that shit. My kid got her degree at *Boston School she wanted to attend* and got her Masters from * New York University she wanted to attend*. Combined the cost wasn’t 125 grand. Holy shit.
Daughter worked the whole time she was in school. Part of the deal. Daughter #2 will get the same deal.
No Big Deal Blax. I’m talking $30K a year. I had some college funds saved up. I then took over some half way through straight out of cash funding. and stuff I had saved. I’m pretty wealthy and cash flow rich these days but asset poor. And generationally (mom assests rich) wealthy. I have a bunch of 401K assets. Truth be told: In my sexual strategy, being more asset poor helps me in my MRP Game more than anything. No one ever said that 4D Chess wasn’t a thing. It’s just not a big deal to spend the outrageous fortunes… Read more »
I scheme.
There’s nothing, and I mean nothing that anyone can ” learn ” in college that can’t be learned outside of it. Much as I would like to agree with that, I think we must recognize the fact that is some instances colleges help to establish and maintain quality and standards through assessment and evaluation under peer scrutiny especially in some fields (eg medicine /engeneering etc). One could set out to teach themselves outside of college, but the resulting product may be a very far cry from what is acceptable by the standards set by the fraternities in the respective field… Read more »
The red pill is a gateway drug to truth in all of its forms. Now that I’ve got my lenses on it turns out just about everything I’ve ever been told is a big steamy pile. Pick something, anything. I love the information age!!!
@SFC Ton Thanks. @Anonymous Reader The tale of having a degree and working behind the counter is all too common. Like you say, the majority of courses aren’t vital, but there are fields where you need the qualification, the rest is a mind numbing cash grab. @theasdgamer There are some students who make the most out of university like you did, but a lot of the time they’re exchange / international students. I didn’t see many people who were book learning like that. @SJF, you’re an excellent and prudent parent. Your kids are lucky, it sounds like you were prepared… Read more »
I didn’t say this in my previous comment, but I regret going to university, despite all the girls I smashed. Students are aware of the rubbish they’re getting in college / uni, but alot of the time they, or we, roll with it. For most, it’s definitely not the education they’re paying for, it’s everything else we’ve outlined in these comments that they want, and a lot of young people think uni is the only way to get it. This sounds shallow, but I was mostly around frigid, meek squares at uni who definitely wouldn’t have sat at my table… Read more »
I have respect now for any kid I meet nowadays who resisted following the herd and didn’t go to university but are still living life and working on ways to improve their situation. Going to college or university today feels like you’re choosing to be indoctrinated. I felt like I was being watered down while I was there, and being around so many betas for so long dulls your masculinity, seriously. It’ll be interesting to see how things change in the future with so many boys currently opting out of society altogether.
Yeah, the “new normal” may have some superficial simularity to the old “normal” but that’s as far as it goes. Some men in their 20’s with college degrees are working 2 or 3 gigs that add up to almost one job. That’s not old normal, but it is new normal. A lot of people over 50 can’t get this unless they have a relative in that age group. It’s all “well, they should just get a job with a good company and sign up for the company pension plan and max out their 401K…” as if it’s still 1980-something. That’s… Read more »
About a year ago Ernst & Young, one of the UK’s biggest graduate recruiters, has announced it will be removing the degree classification from its entry criteria, saying there is no evidence success at the university correlates with achievement in later life. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/01/07/ernst-and-young-removes-degree-classification-entry-criteria_n_7932590.html It might not be long before some major recruiters on this side of the pond will also decide they’ll have better results looking off campus at the 18 year olds who know nothing but have no debt, instead of the 24 year olds who’ve financially destroyed themselves learning nothing. (depends on the degrees of course. My oldest… Read more »
His degree is just about free also (scholarships) as were mine, as were my spouse’s.
@ Last X Lol, having the funds is not an issue. Having busted my ass working for 40 years and not really earning in my current field for the first 5 years has made me leary of wasting large sums of fiat money. It was too hard to earn early in life. College education is wildly overpriced, and in the current economic climate the prospects of field related employment/career are way to slim. No young person should ever start their adult lives out with 5 or 6 figure debt. Hollen alluded to ‘ boomers ‘, and what he states is… Read more »
“Then race for getting more shit enables the 6 figure college education to exist.”
SO true.
The degree itself is now a Veblen good. It has status because people believe it has status.
(I’d liken them to those VIP tables at casinos but don’t want to step on any toes here)
@anon, thanks for sharing that link. It’s a welcome change. The Gov fucked up when telling everyone they needed a degree, now there’s no value to it.
@Blaximus, good breakdown there man. The current climate deprives more than it inspires
Some body has to do the actual work.
“. . .kfg will pop in and say something like “John Dewey” or “Prussians!”” And you can throw in Nelson Rockefeller, who almost single handed created the state university system as we know it. “…. I’m not paying any school 250k. Fuck that shit.” My undergrad alone cost about that much, in old money, but if I (or my parents) had to pay for it I wouldn’t have gone. I have a library card. Kids these days have Internet as well. Kids these days are making a big deal about MIT putting their curriculum online, but I’m at a loss… Read more »
I’ve recently updated my resume ( although the odds of being hired again at my current age are practically non existent ) and certifications take up a good 4 inches plus of the field. I did not attend one brick and mortar ” class ” to gain the knowledge required. Everything needed was online. I usually had to spend 50 or 100 bucks to get the certification. A few of them cost nothing at all. My employer will pay up to 80% of the cost of these ” classes “, but all of the information was 100% free. People do… Read more »
It only took me 5 years to get done with a 4 year high school diploma. I’m proud of myself on that.
College WAS useful to me, way back when, as a pathway out of the east coast bubble — learning to live among normal, real people. Sadly colleges today want to build new bubbles around their students
@rollo — One clear TRM message is watch what people do, not what they say. I mentioned that dating poll only as a patently ridiculous example of the nonsense people say (and what the media will run with). If there was an eye-rolling emoji handy that would have been the time to use it.
As a corollary I offer the wisdom of the ancient TV game show that began with the announcer and the crowd bellowing, “It’s not what you say … It’s what YOU DON’T SAY!”
College education is wildly overpriced
Transfer of wealth to leftist academic elites. College tuition inflated even faster than health care.
I owed about 3k when I finished college…college was financed with scholarships and grants mostly…parental support and loans made up about 20% as I recall
kfg
“The Gov determines its own values. Consider the possibility that the system is working exactly as designed.”
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI3lckqaSk0
“It’s not what you say … It’s what YOU DON’T SAY!”
OK, I actually had to look that one up. I’m not entirely sure whether I get a demerit for having wasted my youth reading and bopping around in the woods or a bonus for same.
Or maybe I was just too into What’s My Line.
@ rugby
That student loan video is golden.
@Blaximus Excellent points on college, being an employee, today’s opportunities etc. My dream of doing what I do began at age seven. My university degrees were held against me seen as time wasted… time they said that I should have spent doing more acting. That was before I got the first “big break” that came after living out of my car (showering at the gym) while working ‘medical student hours’ learning everything I could from my heroes in the business, and doing tons of work for free… obsessively pushing toward mastering the sound my voice was known for from then… Read more »
@Sam
“…This is a beautiful time to be alive on earth”
Agreed everything Iv’e dealt with is a gift. Got to meet you soon Sam your an inspiration for the betterment of are higher self’s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxn9BDzSuL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm5zBN7FiFo
Blaximus
About to start a trade school in a week. Paying for it is coming from me and so far i don’t have the fund’s. Will pass test and find a way. Even if that means taking time off to do it. Not going into debt.
Of course men who have been slighted by women, or who have had little to no success with women like this blog. This blog provides a scapegoat, and that scapegoat is women’s “inherent biology” for men’s lack of success. This blog is not about gender dynamics, it is about how to manipulate your partner. One look at Rollo’s post where he identified homosexual relationships, and it is all about who is maintaining the power. Not women fall into the paradigms he explains here, just as not all men are either “alpha” or “beta”. He presents a ridiculous amount of inconsistencies,… Read more »
thx anon, I’m sure you’re totally right and it would be better to take advice from you and all your perfect grammar
you’ve done your best, now go die
… that’s a different anon, not ” our ” anon. Right?
a catapult is untrolled in Mordor
I figured handles are unique, but I didn’t check; does sound a bit different in tone and style, tho
“… that’s a different anon, not ” our ” anon. Right?”
‘Tis a different anon. I might start going by anona.
It’s not manipulation if its what they want at a subconscious level, its fulfillment of wishes that are normally obscured by noise.
Hollen alluded to ‘ boomers ‘, and what he states is valid, but there’s a very large cohort that struggled to earn, even in the times of unprecedented prosperity. I’m at the tail end of boomerism and have dealt with downsizing, wage cuts, benefit elimination and wage stagnation, and corporate buy outs. Lol, all executed by college educated boomers.
I suppose all that happened after the oil crises of 1973 and 1979. That’s when the general prosperity after the Second World War has ended in America and elsewhere in the West.
“a catapult is untrolled in Mordor”
There’s one major economic factor that is depressing the standard of living of the west…wage depression due to labor competition from up and coming economies…it’s a temporary phenomenon and can be somewhat ameliorated by governmental management. Eventually, wage levels will equilibrate.
University degrees are way cheaper in Spain. 10 years ago for me: 5 years at ~1000 $ per year, ~5000 $. If you get the top grades there are discounts for the next year, which was my case sometimes. Now they might be a bit more expensive because the fees were raised to cope with the financial crisis, but they are still (relatively) cheap. It is mainly a public university system. There are a few private ones but they have not a sterling reputation (playground for rich kids basically, without much prestige). There is nothing close to Oxbridge/Ivy league colleges.… Read more »
ate.“…it’s a temporary phenomenon and can be somewhat ameliorated by governmental management. Eventually, wage levels will equilibrate” “Temporary” is a very relative term in the human experience. Economic cycles can take many decades. That’s a long time in the individual experience, but only the blink of an eye in the human experience. We have a little over 300 million people. China and India alone have a little over two billion. That’s a lot of labor competition to “equilibrate” (for context, let’s look at the world map of the number of people who defecate in public, per square kilometer…basic hygiene and… Read more »
some anon trolling
Of course men who have been slighted by women, or who have had little to no success with women like this blog.
@anona:
Perhaps someday we will once again shoulder the White Man’s Burden and give the Chinese the secret of indoor plumbing, so that they can build some sort of crude simulacrum of civilization.
Not that I expect them to be grateful or anything. They still haven’t sent a thank you note for the opium.
A Red Pill economic primer – What do wages in other nations have to do with wages here in the U.S.? What have they had to do with our wages historically? Tsk, tsk, tsk – if you can understand the FI and feminism’s effects on males, then this should be equally easy to grasp. Remember, there are many Red Pills. Now, do you witness the foreign competition actually putting downward pressure on wages here? Do you see this with your own 2 eyes, or is this what you are being told? By whom and to who’s benefit? Is this competition… Read more »