To Each His Own

In a couple of weeks I’ll be making my first and only personal appearance this year at the 21 Convention in Orlando, Florida. This event will be unique in a number of ways. To my knowledge, this convention will be the first large-scale gathering of Red Pill writers, bloggers, podcast hosts and thought-leaders ever organized. I’m truly appreciative of Anthony Johnson in being open to my suggestions for speakers. It was a collaborative effort in this regard and over the course of this year we did our best to collect a group of speakers who would represent many different aspects of Red Pill intersexual dynamics. My only regrets are that we couldn’t fit more speakers in to the schedule and some men I highly respect were unable to attend this year.

It was my hope that this ‘new and improved’ 21 Convention might eventually be an annual Red Pill summit of sorts. This build up hasn’t been without a bit of controversy from the previous Purple Pill speakers who used the 21 Convention’s prior events as a platform for their blogs and coaching businesses. That was to be expected just as the same tired criticisms of the Red Pill were too. I have no doubt that the previous ‘life coaches’ taking issue with this event’s Red Pill turn sincerely believe they have some valuable insights to help men become ‘better men’. The problem, however, becomes one of how these coaches would direct men according to the Blue Pill preconditioning they have never been able to disabuse themselves of.

I understand the necessity these guys must feel with regards to discrediting the Red Pill as a praxeology. The dots we connect in Red Pill awareness are often at odds with their deeply held Blue Pill ego-investments and hopes, as well as a threat to their (often LARPy moralistic) “Man Up but not too much” profit model. In fact, even just the idea that the Red Pill should be a praxeology of men’s collective experiences about intersexual dynamics is enough to make them want to disqualify it. Their criticism is that, as a praxeology, the Red Pill is long on explanations and short on solutions – solutions you can presumably get by signing up for their email blasts and coaching sessions.

The praxeology that is the Red Pill is inconvenient for them because it tears away the veneer of their Blue Pill idealism about women and reveals some very unflattering truths about them and the feminine on-whole which they still largely have on a pedestal in their heads. Red Pill awareness has a way of exposing the pretty lies that make for the good marketing material that most Purple Pill coaches depend on for their livelihoods. I mean, when 80%+ of men are Beta, who wouldn’t want to buy the secret 12 point list of things a man must do to be a real man and get the woman of his dreams?

Two Complaints

There are generally two common complaints I read coming from Purple Pill life dating coaches. The first is easy, and one I’ve refuted so many times I wont bore you with repeating myself, and that’s the presumption that Red Pill awareness must be false or detrimental to a guy because it makes guys so angry with women. This is the easiest dismissal for critics because it is true; men do go through a phase of anger when they unplug from the Blue Pill illusions they’ve been so convinced of for the better part of a lifetime. And yes, some get stuck in this phase and some do become despondent because they don’t want to face the abyss it represents to them. Some go MGTOW, some turn into Purple Pill coaches themselves because they don’t want to accept the whole of what Red Pill awareness means. But most men go through this phase and come to an acceptance that there is hope in a Red Pill paradigm for them. They come to see their new awareness as a safety net and boldly embrace rebuilding themselves into better men based on this full awareness.

So the sales pitch then becomes, “Don’t be angry with women like those Red Pill guys. You can still live in Blue Pill happiness and harmony with a loving unicornQuality‘ woman by following these 5 simple steps to make yourself into the man women want you to be.”

What the Purple Pill anger critics (deliberately) refuse to get is that the Red Pill isn’t (and was never) intended to get men to hate women, but rather to inform men about the inherent nature of women so they wont hate women for what they can never be to them. This is the disillusionment that men who still cling to Blue Pill idealism can’t seem to get past – they cannot abandon those Blue Pill hopes that they believe women are capable of fulfilling for him, but the Red Pill disabuses him of. So they get angry. They get angry at themselves for ever having believed in them. They get angry for having wasted so much time investing themselves in them. They get angry, most importantly, because they realize that women simply aren’t built to fulfill the hopes his Blue Pill conditioning made him believe should be possible.

The Purple Pill coach believes that this Red Pill realization leads to men hating women. The second complaint I read from them is that Red Pill awareness gives men some license to feeling like victims. This criticism is deductive to coaches for two reasons; it serves his ‘get-rich-quick-on-the-internet-by-selling-sunshine’ man-up and do better to qualify for women blog template, and it discourages men seeking answers from becoming Red Pill aware in a way that crushes their still Blue Pill belief set.

For the record, and as boldly as I can put this, if you are Red Pill aware man and still believe you are a victim of some sort because of your previous Blue Pill indenturement to pedestalizing women or the Feminine Imperative, you are only a victim of your own lack of vision. Red Pill awareness has set you free – free from the blur and distraction that a feminine-primary social order would pull over your eyes, free from the delusional Blue Pill hopes that are only greater shackles for a man, and free from never seeing the intersexual pitfalls you were prone to fall into before. But Red Pill awareness comes at a cost; the truth may set you free, but it doesn’t make it pretty. If you have a responsibility as a Red Pill aware man it’s that you are never allowed to play the victim. You now know the rules of engagement. Play it well, change the rules if you can, but you are no longer allowed to say you didn’t know the score.

Most Purple Pill coaches know this victim complex is bullshit, so they deliberately conflate Red Pill awareness with MGTOW or the MRM or even the “flip side of feminism” in an effort to muddy the waters and dissuade men, who are genuinely hurting and seeking answers, away from the real life-changing influence that the Red Pill represents.

When I petitioned my readers to leave a testimonial as to why they thought the Red Pill represented more confidence or a ‘safety net’ to them I got much more than I anticipated from that comment thread. I had been looking for some good quotes to add to the back cover of Positive Masculinity, but what I got was over a thousand revelations about the power that Red Pill awareness has in changing men’s lives for the better. These are men who took what the Red Pill had shown them and transformed their lives with that knowledge. They did this because Red Pill awareness empowered them, gave them the tools, to implement changes in themselves and how they interacted with women and a feminized world. They did so without anger or feeling like victims, and they did so without a Purple Pill hack trying to coax them back onto the plantation and into their failed, and false, Blue Pill belief sets.

And this is what scares the coaches; that a free and open source Red Pill praxeology is responsible for more men taking the initiative and bettering themselves than anything their ‘coaching’ has been responsible for.

Personal Development

I am not now, nor have I ever been a motivational speaker, a ‘guru’ of any stripe, a psychotherapist or a personal development coach. Though I’m humbled to be counted among the Godfathers of the Red Pill, I have never claimed ownership of the Red Pill. It’s always been my belief that the Red Pill – the true Red Pill that has always been about intersexual dynamics – should be an ‘open source’ community. Decentralization is one of its strengths, but it also allows for bastardization from men and women who want to define it.

In each of my books and on this blog I’ve made things plain about my non-approach to men and their own personal development; I’m not interested in making better men, I’m interested in men making themselves better men. I am not interest in making men “Tomassi Men” or in anyway selling them on a template for what I think a real man ought to be. My life and my interpretations of it are not going to be a template for anyone else to follow. Red Pill awareness, based on the praxeology of intersexual dynamics in the personal and social realms, will save and/or improve your life, but that life has to be lived by you as an individual.

That said, of course I realize that men seeking answers will want a codified system of guidelines for their own personal development. I’m not the guy who’s going to give that to you, neither is that Purple Blue Pill life coach with the 12 point plan, neither is the motivational speaker selling you the same tired power of positivity message that’s been around since the 1930s. You are going to come up with that plan, you are going to take what the Red Pill makes you aware of and you are going to apply it to how you live your life. And you will have the satisfaction of knowing that your personal development and the successes (and failures) that came from it authentically came from your own plan and according to your judgement, not someone else’s vision or template.

I wanted to take a moment in this post to preface the 21 Convention by addressing the ways in which men come to unplug themselves from their old, Blue Pill conditioned way of life and reconstruct themselves. Reader Blaximus added this in a recent comment thread and it sums things up well:

Fourth: there is no ‘ system ‘ for teaching or learning Game. None. The process is highly individualized and virtually no two guys will learn at the same rate, or achieve the exact same level of understanding or real world application. No cheat sheets in game. You either get it and apply it and internalize it, or you don’t. It’s not about picking up chicks in clubs. That’s PUA. Game picks up chicks at a funeral. Lol. True game will be disliked by the masses.

Far too many Purple Pill dating coaches don’t want to get this in their heads. They think that because the Red Pill is a praxeology it implies it’s a cop out on developing real solutions for guys. They either don’t understand the necessity for men’s individual needs to personally develop Game for themselves, or they need a convenient dismissal of the Red Pill as ‘those angry guys have no answers’.

I have stressed in more essays than I care to recount the importance of combining what the Red Pill informs Game about with what Game informs the Red Pill about. One is the theoretical, the other is the practical, and neither is complete without the other. Yes, it is entirely vital that you, as a Red Pill aware man, get out into the field to employ the ideas, and test the practicality of how the Red Pill relates to your situation in your environment according to your strengths and gifts. That field may be a night club, or day Game on the street, in a social circle, with your wife of 10 years or in your churches singles’ group. The fact remains, Red Pill awareness is applicable through Game in a variety of environments, social and cultural contexts.

Game Works, but it only works if you turn off the computer and do something. How do you learn from a book? You put it down and you go outside (and yes, that counts for my books too). Investing oneself in Red Pill awareness as a praxeology is not a cop out for coming up with real solutions – it gives men a toolset from which they can create their own solutions. What frightens Purple Pill coaches is that men’s individual solutions, often enough, don’t affirm their Blue Pill romanticizations, their pretenses of morality, or their idealistic inability to look at the abyss and find hope on the other side of it. They want solutions, but they want their solutions to be affirmed by a Red Pill awareness that contradicts their ego-investments.

When your revenue depends on not getting it it’s hard to convince a Blue Pill man otherwise.


I will be discussing aspects of this essay at the 21 Convention in just two weeks. If you are attending I’d like to take this opportunity to extend you a personal invitation to talk with me at the convention and possibly have dinner with my colleagues and I at the event. On the topic of just getting out there in the field and doing it, I know that my friends Christian McQueen and Goldmund will be heading out into the wilds of the Orlando nightlife and I will be accompanying them on at least one of these outings.

Lastly, if you are in the Central Florida area, or if you want to make the drive in for the weekend, and you really really want to attend the convention, but just can’t come up with the funds, hit me up via email, Twitter or leave a message on my About page here and I will personally see about getting you some kind of hardship discount. Remember, this is only if you’re truly desperate to attend.

See you in two weeks.

403 comments

  1. @if I fell

    I woke at 33 one morning after a night out and wanted children. It was a lightbulb moment.

    I was a blue pill player, I’d already had one divorce, made £1m but I didn’t have a woman.

    Having children was the best decision I ever made.

    Spinning plates at 49 is easier than its ever been, but I really can’t be arsed the bulk of the time.

    Most men are in such a shit state by my age that if you’re even close to a six pack and have some wit and dress sense you pull anything you wan in real life (not online)t. Even so the red pill takes the shine off it so badly that most of the time I just think ‘don’t worry love’ and I walk away from the lay.

    With one particular hot ex who played up I told her to take her smelly hole and plastic tits and fuck off out of my flat. She married someone else 6 months later and now hits me up monthly for sex.

    A lot of the stuff here is geared to younger men who are drugged by their balls and until Rollo and others have cleared their 60’s to 70’s there won’t be a clear roadmap of how things pan out as we age.

  2. @ IF I FELL

    Hey. I’m just stressing that I don’t think that having kids will give men who aren’t into being a dad any serious level of satisfaction, and if that’s how they see it, then it’s okay, even preferable that they skip the whole child thing.

    Just today I was badgering a guy at work who got married ( huge mistake ) and has has 2 kids back to back. He seems totally clueless as to what his role is or should be, and he seems to think his wife and his mother will take care of everything. It’s like the kids will shoulder responsibility for being solid people in the future and he’s basically a sperm donor.

    Already, the wife is killing the bedroom and sleeping in a separate bedroom with one of the kids, leaving him the other bedroom and the 8 month old. He proudly admits that he’s applying pressure to get his wife to ” put out “.

    1) he should never have gotten married ( too late ). 2) he should never have had any children.

    He’s got a long and fucked up road ahead, and now, so do his offspring. He is 100% clueless and refuses any suggestions what so ever.

    I was 39 when my youngest was born, lol, yeah I was pushing it too, but I’d done the new dad thing before and I wanted another. She’s 17 now and it’s just how I wanted it…. Even better in many respects.

    But if a guy is not feeling it, has no clue or interest, I’m all for opting out of the gene pool and saving innocent little people a lackluster life that doesn’t enrich them. That shit is already becoming an epidemic.

    Telling them about ” what they are missing ” is a moot and useless point because they aren’t missing anything given the mindset and circumstance.

    If a man is prolific at getting pussy, there will come a time when the shine wears off of that apple. But a majority of men will never be that successful mostly due to BP remnants and the five fingers of death wielded by the FI. Something will go unaccording to plan.maybe they’ll have a change of heart about kids at 50. Lol, that’s gonna suck donkey dick.

    It’s every Man’s right to decide what’s best for him. The only caveat is if a man gives up control to a woman, in that he refuses to procreate not because not a personal choice, but out of fear and lack of knowledge. The fear that having kids MUST end in a bitter divorce raping and loss of assets. The guy I referred to above is on a collision course with the court system in the future. It won’t have to do with the FI or feminism or ruthless cunts or Facebook… Lol. It will be due to his utter ignorance of the facts that might prevent him taking a giant legal dick with no Vaseline. As he says, ” he’s got this “.

    Hypergamy. It’s what’s for breakfast.

  3. @rugby
    Been thinking about this all day.

    I think apple is about to hit some cords about this with tech hardware.

    Very likely.

    Also I suspect women will drastically adjust accordingly.

    Since women can also game men. As more men become red pill aware, they fuck and marry the younger women leaving the older, jaded, post-wall CC riders to their own devices. When younger women understand that red pill aware men can figure out whether a woman sees him as an AF or a BB prospect, the younger women start teaching themselves how to lock down a good BB prospect by gaming him; eg by feigning alpha tells. Females will probably have their version of red pill blogs, girlgame coaches (much like PUA coaches for men), women’s 21 coventions, and so on. A properly gamed red pill beta will believe that he is trully an AF. Once they lock him down, they will find a way of sneaking in some aunthetic alpha brood behind the unsuspecting BB’s back.

    Then new red pill strategy will have to evolve for the men. Red queen phenomenon.

  4. @cheupez/rugby

    I do agree that the apple is gonna hit some chords but I think this will be nuclear social shaming of people like Rollo. Some speaker at the 21 Convention will say something dumb and it will be mis quoted and attributed to the entire movement. Or similar thing.

    TRP will become the ‘go to horse to flog’

    “When younger women understand that red pill aware men can figure out whether a woman sees him as an AF or a BB prospect, the younger women start teaching themselves how to lock down a good BB prospect by gaming him”

    I don’t think so. I’ve worked with a lot (hundreds) of younger women. They are entirely driven by ‘Gina tingles.

    They despise BB and won’t even consider trying to lock one down until they are totally and utterly out of AF options.

    The nearest it gets is some of them see that they get caught in ‘dicksand’ (AF but asshole) and they should go for a different type of guy but in practice they just can’t do it.

    In the meantime the BB guys are reading content like this – understanding the game and either upping heir game and getting on the right foot with better women or opting out.

  5. @Blaximus

    I agree that men who are clueless or unmotivated should avoid risky situations, sharp objects, etc.

    I delayed marrying for 7 years and delayed having children for 3 more. I was scared to death of the responsibility and thought having a child would eat all my time and money. I learned to take on the responsibility. I was right about the time and money. One of the points I was making was you had better make up your mind, before time makes it for you. The other was find a good mother or do not attempt this. One of my buddies from work adopted a child in his mid-40’s. I told him he’d better eat his wheaties (For foreigners and younguns – it was a breakfast cereal that was supposed to give you super powers.) My daughter could run like a colt and my son could figure out a way to break containment.

  6. You revealed an old man….
    Blaximus
    “But a majority of men will never be that successful mostly due to BP remnants and the five fingers of death wielded by the FI. ”

    What are the 5?

    cheupez
    “A properly gamed red pill beta will believe that he is trully an AF. Once they lock him down, they will find a way of sneaking in some aunthetic alpha brood behind the unsuspecting BB’s back.

    Then new red pill strategy will have to evolve for the men. Red queen phenomenon.’

    I disagree you can go from BB to AF by learning what cues to apply at the right moment. It has to be internalized.
    Every red pill change has to applied to the person who look’s at themselfs in the mirror.

    Total self responsibility not just for the brutality of the world but the rich Joy in creation’s of a new self. Devotion and self compassion for not being aware ahead of time. trusting a women without realized the Collective behind it.

    You do the right thing for the wrong reason you become a white knight…

    Selfish self acceptance…. (Never full disclosure) Listen more than speak…

    Use every problem as a stepping stone (Of what can i learn from this?)

    palmasailor
    “In the meantime the BB guys are reading content like this – understanding the game and either upping heir game and getting on the right foot with better women or opting out.”
    It helps to process the violation of social safety and security.
    http://www.naturalthinker.net/trl/texts/Vilar,Esther/The_manipulated_man.pdf
    You don’t worry… you accept death… you don’t fight the madness for what it is… You internalize courage. Face it with all the pain and struggle. You don’t give up to suicide or excuse’s of misfortune… You brace the tides of time and forge a masterpiece that assembles all the remnants of your story into the novels of the world…

  7. “Are you Gay” Update – Carried over from Band of Brothers

    It looks like she backed down as they went out together. As more background, my son is below legal drinking age and lives at home. So, while my advice was to dump her and this course was echoed in some of the comments, there is utility to the relationship: she has an apartment, she cooks for him, provides a crash pad, goes dutch on dates. He’s not ready for plate-spinning, but I am hopeful that he will get there and not be inhibited by the “he is taking advantage of her” guilt or an oops pregnancy.

    Ton’s and Sentient’s comments were helpful. Although, as explained, he’s not ready for nexting for disrespect, and he needs to develop more amused mastery. It is a double-whammy that he tends to take things too personally as an introvert and his generation seems to respond to any criticism with direct and often loud rebuttal.

    @ SJF
    “Note what Mersonia said about If-I-Fell’s honest blue purple pill father question.”

    I was somewhat offended by this comment on first listen. However, on second listen “blue purple” is a close enough description. It kind of reminds me of karate lessons as a kid. I hope to test for the purple belt and then if I pass go on to the red purple belt and then if I really work hard test for the red belt. When I took karate lessons, it was possible (as in life) to regress to a lower belt. I wonder if they still do that?

    I know it gets a bad rap as an aspirational goal, but I believe that most married guys (Sentient, excluded by his own comments) are purple pill in the actual way they conduct their lives (or perhaps lying to maintain plausible deniability).

    Quote: “I’m as ‘infield’ as a married man can get and still remain faithful.”

    The commenter is in the prime of life, successful, DPA, physicaly fit, confident, an expert in intersexual dynamics, with motive, and access. Cue Stephen Stills, “And if you can’t be with the one you love, honey…” Scrrrraaaatch!!! Faithful? Faithful? In a Red Pill world!! Are you kidding me? But, there I am doing the same thing. If I were to “cheat” and she found out, she would be hurt. The relationship would suffer. But, I know that there is some mix of morality and relational equity going on here. Wait, Wait, she could divorce me or cheat or EPL or murder me in my sleep. Still, I am stopping myself.

    Penis: Brain, request permission to land, over.
    Brain: Penis, permission denied, over.
    Penis: Brain, I fucking hate you, over and out.

  8. If I fell
    ” One of the points I was making was you had better make up your mind, before time makes it for you. The other was find a good mother or do not attempt this.”
    What did you do to find a good mother?
    When did you first think of creating children?
    Where did time remind you of this importance?

  9. We cannot deny the truth. There are beautiful women, and then there are makeup and plastic surgery knockoffs. Similarly, there are guys who are genetically better than the rest. Women lust after, fail to lock down, and pine for these guys. Learning game, lifting, self improvement is to us what plastic surgery and makeup is to women. Some women may see through it, just the same way we see through makeup etc. Women start on alphas way before boys know to find red pill and game. A pre-pubertal alpha will already have been fucked by the nanny.

  10. A properly gamed red pill beta will believe that he is trully an AF. Once they lock him down

    Cheupez —

    Well, that’s poor frame and poor game on his part, in that case. If he was really coming from his own point of origin and owning the frame, he wouldn’t let himself be locked down, and certainly not if he sensed he was in AF frame. Part of AF frame is not getting locked down, really. The issue there is that he is sliding into a different frame — let’s call it “AB” frame — where he thinks he’s getting both the urgency of desire that an AF gets while getting a LTR/marriage, forgetting that it is the very locking down that renders him no longer an AF in any case. It’s poor frame management on his part, really.

    Now, I don’t doubt that many guys would in fact fall for that because they are not strong enough in their MPO and frame, that’s true. But that’s their weakness and something they should be aware of.

    I do agree that if TRP ever becomes more widespread (I have big doubts that it will, however), women will eventually adjust, and then men will need to adjust again — just how things work over time.

  11. It’s taken 7 years but…I think I’m approaching the zero fux given about approaching women and having them in my life.

    I’ve built up a new rotation of 3 decent plates who so far have given me very little drama.

    When one cancels or has other stuff to do one of the others steps up…

    But my mindset which is more important is: I got a ton of shit to do and if you can’t make time or make it fun to be with you….next!

    It’s a kind of zen like feeling.

  12. When students Tristan and Sebastian decided that the local club, “Backdoor Manstew” was nowhere near gay enough for them, they took Duke to task.
    And Duke answered with the “fight toxic masculinity” recruitment project.

  13. LOL! I would like to see a photo line-up of the “guys” in this toxic masculinity project.

    True simps, FI-stooges, black-knights, or just some guys hustling these misandrist fools for beer money.. .I’m really curious.

  14. Been reading that campusreform site the past dew weeks. There was non of that shit going on when I graduated in 1986. What a fucking toxic environment university has been turned into since.

  15. There’s a Whole Lotta Lulz in that Duke Men’s Project:

    For starters to be in it you must be “Male-identified or masculine-of-center”.
    I guess if you don’t know what that means you can ass them.

    This is from the synopsis. Someone run it through Google Translate for me wouldya:

    “Men doing gender equity work operate with a very specific set of privileges, often referred to as the “glass elevator” effect. Thus, The Duke Men’s Project is a space that remains accountable to the great work women and non-male-identified activists and thinkers have been doing for decades. Our space is one that honors and respects the legacy and scholarship that men doing this work invariably benefit from, one whose dual role is to equip men with the knowledge and perspective to be able to engage in gender equity work and activism in a constructive way that acknowledges their privilege.”

    Fuck Purple Pill, this is pink pill. Vichy Males and Gender Studies Mavens will invest the unlucky participants in the principles of doubleplusgood-think.

    As for the Mens conference, I assume its gurus will be security conscious and no recordings will be allowed out. Reasonable precautions should suffice. The tricky part will be outside the meeting room: if someone like Vice News is out in the hallway, or the lounge, and starts chatting up attendees. That’s when stupid shit can get said. They look for out-of-the-way stuff like this so assume they could be paying attention.

  16. I love the old Red Pill show, “Father Knows Best.”

    “Women control 70% of the resources in this country.”

    Bud gets beat up by a guy and his dad puts him in boxing class at the local gym. My mother did that for me, too.

    Mother, talking about Bud: Our Bluebeard has been going steady for a week with both Joyce and Alison. Someone needs to have a talk with him.

    Father: Either that or give him a medal. [he kisses Mother]

    You see the FI pushing through Mother and pushback against it from Father.

  17. @chopez

    “there are guys who are genetically better than the rest”

    And there are other guys with more limiting beliefs than the rest. Quit holding yourself back.

  18. @ cheupez

    Unless you’re genetically predisposed to those limiting beliefs, in which case double down on them.

  19. @ Rugby11

    I owe you a debt for bringing Jordan Peterson to my attention. His lectures are some of the best “soup starter” for the mind I have ever watched.

    “a good mother” – Beyond good fortune, there were some positive signs. She came from a large family where, as the eldest, she was expected to share and even sacrifice for her younger siblings. She had a dog that was her own. She loved that dog and kept it alive through extraordinary care for 16 years. She cared for her nephew after the death of her brother-in-law when her sister was in severe depression. She was excited to introduce me to her extended family and especially her nieces and nephews. They would light up when they saw her, and she would give them her time and attention. She was a do’er, changing their diapers when it needed to be done. I don’t think it’s an accident that in the story of Moses, he marries the eldest and most sensible of the sisters.

    “creating children” – My wife changed her mind about wanting children somewhere around the time we were married. I also wanted to have children but I wanted to wait as we were strapped with our modest wedding expenses—which we paid ourselves and a townhouse we had purchased with the help of a small gift from my parents. We went back and forth for about two years. I agreed in year three of the marriage. She went off birth control. I thought it might take a while. I was so taken by surprise when it happened the same month. When she told me she was pregnant, I turned pale and only mustered an “Oh, honey” and hugged her.

    HEED MY WORDS MEN: In this situation, show vigor and excitement, or hear about it for the rest of your lives.

    I wanted a son. She did too, but for me it had become more precious as I was the final male member of my line. This is something that doesn’t occur to a man until he is well over 30, when it’s too late, or perhaps not at all. Of my wife’s sisters, all but one has either all boys or all girls. So, the odds of having a boy on the final try, were not good and based on her family history even worse.

    There were some studies out about increasing your chances of having a child of a particular sex. To have a boy, it was said, prop up the woman’s buttocks on cushions and penetrate and ejaculate as deeply as possible. Then, hold her legs up for 5 minutes. The idea was that y-sperm are faster, but x-sperm have greater endurance. So, on attempt number one, of the final mission, after holding her legs up, I patted her on the buttocks and said, “Here’s your boy.” It came to pass as I predicted. It’s probably the most alpha thing I have ever said to a woman, but the response to pregnancy number one is still a standing shit test.

    “time remind you” – Along with her ticking biological clock, my wife suffers from hormone disease which leads to early onset menopause. As mentioned above, there was also the male last of line issue.

    @ Palmasailor

    I don’t believe my son is ready for plate-spinning for three reasons:

    1. I give him a bad example to follow. I have been committed and faithful to the same woman for 34 years.
    2. He is underage. So, he is limited as to venues.
    3. He lives at home. So, his logistics are more difficult.

    I am encouraging him to use more game. There again, I show him a bad example. I prefer an “honest’ say what you mean way of living. I know it’s like trying to run through the wall instead of stepping around it. I’m working on me and I’m working on him.

  20. Red pill never made me angry, but it did disappoint me. I think the hardest part for me to swallow was that there is no status plateau, you have to keep gaming women (or woman), forever. I was lazy, and my most cherished idea was that if I achieved certain things, I could nail down a good woman and coast for the rest of my days. That last bit was this: game isn’t just how to get women, game is also how you keep them.

    For all that men are accused of being scared of commitment, that is because we are the ones capable of it. We know what it entails. That is how we want to be loved, once and forever. And that is what women cannot give us.

  21. @Fred F GBFC

    “Men doing gender equity work”

    Work that women want and men need to pay the bills (generaly non productive not physical).

    ” operate with a very specific set of privileges”

    No monthly flow,can’t have babies, thinking not controlled by emotions more logical and motivated by pupose rather than being “the first woman”.

    “, often referred to as the “glass elevator” effect.”

    By feminised women and men alike.Lets face it if it is scientific sit down work you have to be damn good to get paid.

    “Thus, The Duke Men’s Project is a space that remains accountable to the great work women and non-male-identified activists and thinkers have been doing for decades.”

    This is a load,space can be marked by pee only while squatting,causing splatter,it is a big flat space. The space is now accountable for the dubious work,relieving all others of any responsibility. The non male id’d activists have been brainwashed for decades.

    ” Our space is one that honors and respects the legacy and scholarship that men doing this work invariably benefit from, one whose dual role is to equip men with the knowledge and perspective to be able to engage in gender equity work and activism in a constructive way that acknowledges their privilege.”

    Once again the space honors and respects the legacy and scholarship that men doing this work invariably(could be a typo) benefit from. What are the benefits?
    The space has a dual role,to equip men ( castrate men) with the knowledge and perspective to be able to engage in gender equity work and activism in a self destructive way that acknowledges their supposed privilege.

    I may point out that all other forms of work being “non gender equity work” are now useless and should be relegated to the mass of toxic Masculinists as indentured servants. Because they can no way no how get into this piss splattered space.

  22. Tarrou – the whole comment is good

    “men are accused of being scared of commitment, that is because we are the ones capable of it.
    We know what it entails” and “game isn’t just how to get women, game is also how you keep them” :: very good

  23. If-I-Fell
    “I owe you a debt for bringing Jordan Peterson to my attention. His lectures are some of the best “soup starter” for the mind I have ever watched.”

    Your welcome i am glad your life has improved because of it. I owe you in the sense of building a family… Learning about the time frame and turmoil and magnificent’s of building an extensive of yourself into a physical form existence.

    ” To have a boy, it was said, prop up the woman’s buttocks on cushions and penetrate and ejaculate as deeply as possible. Then, hold her legs up for 5 minutes. The idea was that y-sperm are faster, but x-sperm have greater endurance. So, on attempt number one, of the final mission, after holding her legs up, I patted her on the buttocks and said, “Here’s your boy.” It came to pass as I predicted. It’s probably the most alpha thing I have ever said to a woman, but the response to pregnancy number one is still a standing shit test.”

    “Here is your boy” Holy hell that’s incredible….

    Tarrou
    “For all that men are accused of being scared of commitment, that is because we are the ones capable of it. We know what it entails. That is how we want to be loved, once and forever. And that is what women cannot give us.”

    Tarrou that’s gold and sincere…. What we want as love seem’s in natures terms unimportant or unappreciated. Knowing what it entails is part of the pain in personal transformation. I found that commitment is one thing men can use to challenge cultural mandate’s that are placed for women’s biological hypergamy.

  24. “To paraphrase Peterson again, “You are not an adult until you have a child.”

    1. Concerning the kids thing……..They aren’t that great. Basically raised 3 myself without being an adult. That’s an opinion thing.

    “You may have a great life without kids, but it seems to me to be a continual repeat of things you did in your early 20’s. Recently, Mersonia, in one of his asshole posts said I was really stupid, but he had to go try to find a woman to bang. The plan of plate spinning till you’re dead may sound good to some men here and if it describes you, have at it.”

    When I am at the end of my life my hope is that my son and daughter will stop by to see me and we can talk of our time together. At the very least, I like knowing that these are my memories whether I share them or just remember them. I don’t want to be a guy, like Mersonia, flipping through my iPhone and boring some stranger with, “Oh, I banged that girl behind a dumpster, and this girl gave me a restroom blow job… and. That’s just sad in my humble opinion.”

    2. It seems like you think you can’t spin plates and have a family……. …well reading this is just telling me that you are a total blue pill ( So i’m not going to go into actual details heheheheh)

    “I don’t believe my son is ready for plate-spinning for three reasons:

    1. I give him a bad example to follow. I have been committed and faithful to the same woman for 34 years.
    2. He is underage. So, he is limited as to venues.
    3. He lives at home. So, his logistics are more difficult.

    1. Being commited and faithful to the same women for 34 years is not a bad thing.
    2. He is underage….. anywhere he can go is a venue.
    3. He lives at home . If he has a car logistics aren’t a issue. If a female wants to fuck you she’ll do pretty much anything anywhere. Just teach him how to be gregarious and get shit done. (75% of game is just working through obstacles)

    Though I doubt you really want him to be a “asshole” like me. Also remember no ones ready for anything until they try it. 10/10 he’d be fine but you just want him to live a certain image.

    “I am encouraging him to use more game. There again, I show him a bad example. I prefer an “honest’ say what you mean way of living. I know it’s like trying to run through the wall instead of stepping around it. I’m working on me and I’m working on him.”

    You say your honest living……Then say its a bad example. But then again you’re not that honest so it makes sense.

  25. Novaseeker

    Cheupez

    “. If he was really coming from his own point of origin and owning the frame, he wouldn’t let himself be locked down, and certainly not if he sensed he was in AF frame. Part of AF frame is not getting locked down, really.”

    Well that is artfully worded, but assuming that is not intentional – what is with this persistent FI based thinking that a guy “lets” himself get locked down?

    Have you ever turned on a light switch? Or turned one off?

    Do you not have a choice and the agency to do whatever it is you want?

    Come on guys…

  26. @ Rollo

    Social Science finally formally recognizes the existence of the AF/BB strategy of women, it is called “the Madame Bovary strategy”. I found this while reading the newest edition of this book:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mind-Her-Own-Evolutionary-Psychology/dp/0198504985

    “Men with masculine facial features are rated by women as high in strength and dominance but they are also rated as lower on warmth, emotionality, honesty, and cooperativeness (Perrett et al., 1998). Most significantly, they are rated as less likely to be good parents. It seems that too much dominance may make a man attractive as a short-term mate but raises the specter that his very good looks may make him an unreliable long-term partner.

    An intriguing spate of recent studies has found that women are attracted to these dominant male faces only at a certain point in their menstrual cycle—the follicular phase when they are most fertile (Thornhill & Gangestad, 2008). Why should this be? Some studies find that this cycle effect is exaggerated when women are specifically asked about short-term mating or when they are in a steady relationship. This suggests that women specifically seek good genes rather than good fathers at this time. In short, women find these masculine men attractive as lovers but correctly, if unconsciously, recognize that they are unlikely to stay around. Women already in long-term relationships may be employing a deceptive reproductive tactic colloquially known as the Madame Bovary strategy: find a reliable providing man, then furtively seek a better genetic partner on the side and deceive the male provider into raising it as their own. But, as we noted in Chapter 2, there are problems with this argument. An alternative explanation, that has the advantage of applying to unpartnered as well as partnered women, has been offered by Roney (2009). He argues that women in ancestral environments only rarely experienced fertile cycles with elevated hormone concentrations. These fertile cycles could occur only when energetic conditions were favorable to sustaining a successful pregnancy and they would be disrupted, not only by current pregnancy and lactation, but also by weight loss, calorie restrictions, elevated energy expenditure, and stress. The rise in estradiol associated with ovulation is “telling” a woman that she is experiencing a rare and important high-fertility cycle and directing her amorous attention to prime examples of the opposite sex.”

    [She’s written a book that Martie Haselton wrote 17 years ago]

  27. I agree. Lock down=loss of frame.

    Still, I believe that nature prefers that alphas beta down a bit if they are resourceful and want to use the resources to grant their children a headstart in life. They do not necessarily get locked down in the absolute sense of the word. Resourceless alphas, or alphas who don’t care to provide for their kids just hit the road and leave the woman to find her way to some BB or something. Most alphas who are locked down (ie providing for their kids) also keep a lot of side pussy going on all the while.

  28. And by alpha, I mean the man who is such that women get wet when they interact with him. And by beta I mean the man a woman finds sexually undesirable…the kind of man she is not only willing to sleep with, but one that she wants to sleep with. If a woman is only willing to sleep with a man, in that moment, he is beta.

  29. correction: …the kind of man she may be willing to sleep with, albeit not one that she wants to sleep with.

  30. ““For all that men are accused of being scared of commitment, that is because we are the ones capable of it. We know what it entails. That is how we want to be loved, once and forever. And that is what women cannot give us.”

    In USA 18-20 September Million Parent March in Washington DC. This is a march for parental equality, against parental alienation and anyone (male, female, whatever you identify as…) can join in. Equal rights for fathers will remove one aspect of being scared of commitment.

    Stand with your brothers and sisters for a brighter future for our children.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1281865891876500/

  31. pinelero – the pushback is expected…. however, what I find amazing is that the term “father’s rights activist” is a pejorative… as if advocating for a father’s rights is inherently a bad thing…. the rot runs deep, my friends, and the treatment for gangrene is extreme

  32. This is the disillusionment that men who still cling to Blue Pill idealism can’t seem to get past – they cannot abandon those Blue Pill hopes that they believe women are capable of fulfilling for him, but the Red Pill disabuses him of. So they get angry.

    I think what’s hard for me is not so much loss of an ideal that I used to believe women were capable of fulfilling for me – when I first read about the differences in how men v women love, I grasped it immediately and knew that is true, even felt some relief in having it spelled out. What’s really challenging and uncomfortable is confronting what RP all means in terms of how I then go about applying it in my life. The abyss does not bother me – at all. Been there. But the deeply-ingrained ideal modeled by my father and grandfathers that intrinsic to true manhood is self-giving on behalf of others. This self-giving that worked well under the old set of books, but is more likely than not to make one a chump in today’s SMP. The idea that realizing full manhood involves looking out for #1 has NEVER, so far as I can tell, been an ideal in western civilization- quite the opposite in fact. So this is a very dissonant aspect, when one believes in the idea that sacrifice for others is the basis of true happiness.

  33. @ Dr Z. FI hates MRA. Fathers are a sub-set of men, so the hate against MRA is extended to fathers. The FI is defending Briffaults law in a cruel and anti-children manner very bitterly.

    Not all women are as extreme, as you can read on the Million Parent March page there is a lot female support for parental equality.

    Anyone’s remaining blue pill idealism will be removed if you read the accounts of men on these pages and how they have had to deal with family courts ex’s.

  34. Mitch
    “This self-giving that worked well under the old set of books, but is more likely than not to make one a chump in today’s SMP. The idea that realizing full manhood involves looking out for #1 has NEVER, so far as I can tell, been an ideal in western civilization- quite the opposite in fact. So this is a very dissonant aspect, when one believes in the idea that sacrifice for others is the basis of true happiness.”

    You have to come first in Anything you do. Not because your an asshole but because you know what an asshole is. Some part gets internalized you don’t allow anything within you to be polluted by the world. You become an empire that is ruled and mastered by you and you alone.

    http://files.libertyfund.org/files/2133/Aurelius_1464_LFeBk.pdf

  35. You have to come first in Anything you do. Not because your an asshole but because you know what an asshole is. Some part gets internalized you don’t allow anything within you to be polluted by the world.

    Not to be argumentative, but does this mentality produce heroes? Does it produce great men?

    I’m sure there’s some distinction that I’m not quite getting, but it isn’t at all clear.

  36. @Mitch,The first thing an EMT learns is PPE,personal protective equipment,the premise is if you cannot protect yourself from ID’s, Biohazards , shooters ect, you won’t be there to help the patient at least not for very long. This means we need to learn to put ourselves and our wellbeing first if we are to help others.

    Some of the old books teachings are correct, remembering that the playing field has changed therefore the amount of CYA(cover your ass) changes with it. Things are getting to the point that a Man needs to spend more time CYA than doing the actual work.

    So yes a man has to put himself first and foremost.

  37. Stuffin
    Good explanation- thx, that makes sense.

    Things are getting to the point that a Man needs to spend more time CYA than doing the actual work

    If true this is def troubling.

  38. Aaaand

    If i wanted to “unlock” 🔑 I can do THAT to…

    Holy shit! How amazing – I have a choice in my own life!!!!

    Lol.

  39. Mitch
    “Not to be argumentative, but does this mentality produce heroes? Does it produce great men?”
    What defines a great man to you?
    Who are your Hero’s?
    Where do you see yourself impacted by their story?
    Why does it matter to you?

  40. That’s more along the lines of Genetically Suited to a particular task. Not ” better “. I want to know how cheupez to tell me what he means by ” better “.

  41. Mitch

    “So this is a very dissonant aspect, when one believes in the idea that sacrifice for others is the basis of true happiness.”

    Says the guy who claims he doesn’t have a martyr complex…

    Tell us Mitch… How did mom treat dear old dad?

  42. @Blaximus

    You either don’t understand statistics, or you ignore them because it’s better for your argument.

    It’s like I say “women are weaker than men,” and you respond with “those ufc chicks can beat you to death.”

  43. Well asd, at least you didn’t hit me with Tim Tebow. Lol.

    Connaughton is a certified BEAST though. And he played QB in High School.

  44. Anon01

    I understand statistics just fine.

    I don’t allow them to influence me.

    I believe men are capable of much, much, much more than stats would suggest.

    The sexes are a different matter. I’m talking about men. Please leave the goalpost as they are. Lol….

    Mike Tyson was heavyweight champion of the world, yet he didn’t fight everyone in the world.

    So…… yeah.

  45. genetically better depends upon context

    “That’s more along the lines of Genetically Suited to a particular task.”

    saying genetically better as some sort of absolute is nonsense and doesn’t apply; for example, an animal is born with a pure white coat…. not so good if it needs to hide in a forest but in the arctic…. great idea!

    exact same genetics is good here, bad there; no judgment, just results in context

  46. @drzipper
    “genetically better depends upon context”

    Has there ever been a situation that you wished you had an extra chromosome? A recessed jawline? A micropenis?

    @Blaximus

    The sexes are a product of genetic differences(genes on the Y vs genes on the X chromosome). They are not different.

  47. Please define ‘ genetically better ‘ as you see it.
    ……….

    The Ton, mother fucker!, maybe you’ve heard of me?

    Ok couldn’t resist that, but oh yes there is most def genetically better people. We see the dregs and we see the genetically gifted every day

  48. Repeat-

    ” The sexes are a different matter. I’m talking about men. Please leave the goalpost as they are. Lol….”

  49. Damn Blax

    “Mike Tyson was heavyweight champion of the world, yet he didn’t fight everyone in the world.”

    That is meme worthy… Exceptionalism attracts an amazing amount of critics though. I get it, part of that is Power of Positive thinking backlash… But really is you are exceptional, it’s just a day to day reality.

    Bo knows…

  50. Not to be argumentative, but does this mentality produce heroes? Does it produce great men?
    …….

    Stop being a bitch. Most heroes and great men of society Ranger’ed the fuck up, grabbed their nut sack and put themselevs and their mission 1st.

    That whole line of thought about putting others 1st made the West great is purely the thinking of an effeminate mind. It was the desire for wealth, power, fame and conquest over other tribes and nature that made the West the greatest civilization known

    It’s the womanish putting others 1st that is killing the West.

    For smart, red pill dudes some of you are blue pill idiots

  51. @drzipper

    You said genetically better depends upon context. Upon what context is eg a recessed jawline better?

    – – – – — – – –
    lol so much hamstering when it comes to genetics.

  52. from one of my favorite comedies…..

    anon01 – you think folks running the show are big, buff gladiator types? or maybe they have among them overweight/scrawny, small-dick, weak-chin, thick glasses types…. and these dudes would have no trouble finding hb9+ chicks because they have the power, money and status women crave…. and women don’t care about how it’s obtained

    what used to work genetically in one context is no guarantee that it will in another; success/better/worse/failure is subjective and thus, subject to context

  53. lol ok dr.

    genetics only matter when you talk to feminists. After that they just become irrelevant. lol

    Let’s agree to disagree. After all, we’ll both have the same genes tomorrow

  54. anon01 – no prob…. interesting subject, though

    I’m no expert in the matter and so can only go by my own experiences, mid-level reading and generally what smells right

    kinda hoping kfg will show up with one of his more direct, lucid comments on it

  55. @ Mersonia

    Children – perhaps you weren’t great or your 3 kids weren’t great or both. I can’t say. As with everything, “your mileage may vary”. Perhaps Blax is closer to the truth than I am. I can only share my experience. I met a guy at the conference I attended who had a special needs kid. That must be a hard road to travel.

    Touché – If you can do both an LTR with children and plates and do both well (or even passable), my hats off to you.

    I’m only trying to guide my son. I want to keep him off of skid row, the morgue and jail.

    An asshole like you? How about an asshole like me. In studying red pill, I have come to realize that I am much more of an asshole and a meaner son of a bitch than I used to give credit to myself for being.

    I once asked my wife why she did the things I told her to do, like move out to an apartment together. She said it was what she wanted to do, but also she knew that if she didn’t, I would leave her and never speak to her again. I don’t know if that would have been true, but the point is I sold her this belief and she bought it. This is of course only one way of looking at the situation. It’s probably just as accurate to say that she lost a few hands intentionally to win the later hands when there was more in the pot.

    Honest living – I don’t spin plates so it’s kind of hard to lead by example. I called your last post an asshole post. Isn’t that honest enough for you?

  56. Ton,
    What the fuck are you talking about? I was under the impression you were a Ranger. Am I mistaken about that? Ranger units and individuals function by every man for himself, do they?

    Another ‘wommanish’ example that’s destroying the west: my grandfather. a fighter pilot shot down and captured by Japanese in WWII, also flew combat tour in Korea. Then Vietnam comes along, and of course he didn’t have to go, he’d more than done his share, his wife raised 5 kids whilst he was doing this, but he volunteers to go to Nam, because he was a highly skilled and experienced pilot and commander by this point, and those boys needed him. Of course he loved flying more than anything else, but over 1200 pilots were shot down over Vietnam, it was dangerous shit, and definitely wasn’t about him putting himself first. It wasn’t just that, either. After he died at 89 yo, The local air club had an air show during which they played taps and flew the Missing Man formation. He was no martyr, he was a competent, humble, no-nonsense doer who just did a lot of cool shit, and never needed to brag about it, and though he took care of himself, he more often than not put others first.
    As far as the west primarily being built by men seeking fame power wealth and conquering other tribes, I dunno that sounds more like Atilla the Hun or Alexander the Great. They conquered shit, that’s for sure, but they didn’t build a civilization.

    Sentient
    So living in such a way that you sometimes sacrifice your own personal desires for the benefit of others makes one a martyr? Did you even google the term?

  57. IIF – “In studying red pill, I have come to realize that I am much more of an asshole and a meaner son of a bitch than I used to give credit to myself for being.”

    this is a good point…. learning RP will not only tell you your deficiencies, but also illuminate latent or lost RP aspects you might already possess; it helped me see many things about my own experiences and personality/character that are RP; it was good to know I’m not starting from zero and that I have something to work with; RP helps understand the ‘why’ and will help that which you already have fall into place

    of course, you’ll still have to fill in the missing shit, but many men that come here might be erroneously thinking that they’re total losers when in fact they’re just partial losers lol

  58. If you have to ask the question you wouldn’t understand the answer

    So who chives greatness when there was no real reward for it? Even the 300 Spartans wanted to die in glory, to be remembered for countless generations.

  59. @Guywhofell

    “Children – perhaps you weren’t great or your 3 kids weren’t great or both. I can’t say. As with everything, “your mileage may vary”. Perhaps Blax is closer to the truth than I am. I can only share my experience. I met a guy at the conference I attended who had a special needs kid. That must be a hard road to travel.”

    Nah….I’m pretty great …..If I can be honest . The kids were great. The whole parent thing isn’t that amazing. People say it’s the greatest thing in the world but nah its not. All my four years of Highschool I had 2 special kids assigned to me to take care of daily. It was cool…more responsibility. Wasn’t that great. Well there are those moments that are really nice and cool…but yeah nah bro.

    “Touché – If you can do both an LTR with children and plates and do both well (or even passable), my hats off to you.”

    Not interested because my experience with kids made me not really want any because they’re not that great even though I love em. I’ll prob have a boy in my thirties tho. I know tons of guys with a LTR with children and plates .

    “An asshole like you? How about an asshole like me. In studying red pill, I have come to realize that I am much more of an asshole and a meaner son of a bitch than I used to give credit to myself for being.

    Nah usually blue pill people have this fantasy like view of everything and make statements like this.

    ” Wife story quote”
    ………

    “Honest living – I don’t spin plates so it’s kind of hard to lead by example. I called your last post an asshole post. Isn’t that honest enough for you?”

    You don’t have to lead your son anymore. He’s old enough to be guided and be fine.

    Eh… I know guys you like . You’re not honest with yourself.

    @Dr.Zippo

    of course, you’ll still have to fill in the missing shit, but many men that come here might be erroneously thinking that they’re total losers when in fact they’re just partial losers lol

    A loser is a loser

  60. cheupez
    Learning game, lifting, self improvement is to us what plastic surgery and makeup is to women.

    No. It’s not. You are still resisting, even buffering.

  61. Fred Flange Batter Up
    There’s a Whole Lotta Lulz in that Duke Men’s Project:

    It’s like something out of Brave New World mind-melded with Mao’s Cultural Revolution.
    This is a way-out-there mutiple sigma version of some stanard crap on college campuses now. Still think it’s a good idea for young men to go to college? Choose real carefully.

    Now, this should implode in a rather spectacular fashion one way or another. If it was near me, I’d be sorely tempted to infiltrate it just to bring the triggering. A couple of boys in dresses with makeup and girls in pants wearing eyebrow-pencil beards would be enough of a chemistry set to work with. Microaggressions? Let’s get some real old fashioned catfights going.

  62. I enjoy the world of oxidation-reduction…physical compression/expansion…push/pull…maybe I should explore a career in detonation

    Her: What kind of work do you do?

    Me: BSU

    Her: Baptist Student Union?

    Me: Nah, blow shit up

  63. What’s with the AMOG fest guys?

    “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    Based on the comments of If I Fell and Dr Zipper, and Sentient, my thoughts are: I have no reservations about chastising my self for my former Betatization. That was mere ignorance. Ignorance is easily overcome going forward.

    Despite Rollo saying that there is no Alpha with a side of Beta, the former and current Beta traits (I get sexual Beta Tells all the time. And occasional WTF truth bombs. But also get Alpha tells and desire sex after having had manipulative IV bolus sex in the past.) are not, like, a crime. They are merely having been Ignorant traits to overcome.

    They are things to wake you up and move toward Alpha. Those Beta traits got a lot of shit done over a long period of time and they were dynamic, passionate and authentic. They were not virtues per se, but they accomplished a lot. I have no shame in being greater Beta, lesser Alpha, striving toward more Alpha. It’s just not a big deal.

    There is Beta with move toward Alpha as much as possible. I’m not conflicted, nor irresolute about that. Life is fucking great. MPO and masculine self improvement is great. I’m happy as a clam and crawled out of the crab bucket. I know myself and know the enemy. The enemy is certainly not women, nor my wife.

    Going to go out and try to harvest a lot of antlerless cervids at deer camp with three other guys this weekend. (Two days of Early Antlerless Firearms Season.) I’m hosting the camp. When life gives you lemons (an overabundance of antlerless deer) make lemonade. Wish me luck.

  64. Rollo,

    Love the blog.

    For me when I read what you write, I feel like a little autistic kid getting wrapped in a warm weighted blanket in a quiet room. It resonates in my head and brings order to chaotic thoughts.

    When I read this post I was inspired to do some research on what I felt would be masculine topics from various blogs and coaches. What I found was stunning. I already know that most of the people I meet have no real idea what this world we live in means and our role in it.
    Let alone accept the realities based on real world experience. I can accept that.

    But to have Men, teaching and leading other Men onto a field of combat and make no mistake, it is combat and to send them off with some bullshit pitch and 12 steps to romantic bliss is down right scary.

    And to go on to say that guys who swallow the red pill are evil or bad or hate women is insane. To defeat your enemy you must love them first. I love Women, I respect them. I have also in my love of them have Observed them, for decades. On their best days, they are saints. On their worst, they will exhibit every type of personality disorder imaginable. It is a SOP. It’s how it works. It’s not personal or evil, it just is.

    Can we as Men prepare for the eventuality of it? Of course. Can we use this information to help them, shape our families and eventually the world? Yes. We are men, we climb Mountains rivers and streams. We crossed oceans on small wooden boats to populate almost every continent.
    Pretty sure if enough of us get together and start talking about it and taking action into improving our selves we can take back our families and schools.

    The story of Adam and Eve is very telling. Thousands of years ago Men figured it out. According to Christianity, we all have to die because Eve was easily persuaded and Adam failed the biggest shit test ever. I mean If I was going to send a coded message into the future about Women’s true nature I can’t think of a better first chapter.

    Thanks for the posts. I look for my next appointment with my warm, weighted, mental blanket.

  65. me-sonja, we were just discussing fucked up genetics

    tell us more about those 3 kids — 2 of which were retard — you raised without being an adult; definitely not the norm so the possibility of your experiences skewing your perceptions towards the fucked up direction seem quite high; you can’t have both a childhood and raise children at the same time, so you’ve definitely been fucked in that regard; and now you’re fucking qualified to give advice lol

    “…I know tons of guys with a LTR with children and plates….” :: lol, translation: as a professional layabout, I believe in having baby-mamas cut me a slice of their welfare checks, all my bros do it, too

    in fact, everything you’ve ever said about yourself has revealed what a fucking weirdo you must be…. that’s gotta be painful and strutting around insisting on how awesome you are is a fine way to cope…. for a bitch

    always funny and irritating to see the brash young prick try his hand in the real world only to learn he ain’t the first to find out he doesn’t know shit; I was there and probably everyone else was, too

    mers, you’re a smart guy, I can tell that, but if you are trying to say anything of value, the mental strongarm techniques that might be working in your personal social circle are transparent to the grownups on this site; your beratings of those whose only mistake was believing what they’ve been told their whole lives only shows your own weakness… a lack of compassion that perhaps you yourself feel you didn’t get, how unfair; these men reveal their ignorance, ask for help, and you — a snot nosed shit — proceed to berate them and act like your shit doesn’t stink

    fuck you

    don’t let the idea that some of the guys here that are willing to drop their pants in one particular area of their life lead you to think they are also deficient in other areas… plenty of badasses are blind to women and their ways, some even comment on this site

  66. @Dr Zipper @ mersonia

    Nailed it!

    As if baby sitting,can prepare a guy for 9mo with a pregger,weeks of false labor and no sleep,catering to her cravings,then seeing that birth come out naturally as part of your own immortality. This will motivate most men to buckle down and take care of business.

  67. @Blax, Sentient

    That scene deserves a longer roll. It’s straight up Red Pill. Snapping Betas out of their fog. Exemplifying Alpha.

    But Ricky Roma wouldn’t sit for that shit.

    “Are they all here?” Blake asks snide manager Kevin Spacey at the outset, and is told “All but one.” The missing man is hotshot salesman Ricky Roma (Pacino). “Well, I’m goin’ anyway,” Blake decides. Truth is, Mamet had to write the scene without Roma in it, because Roma—as viewers know if they’re familiar with the play, the movie, or just Pacino in general—would never sit still for this shit. Dave Moss (Ed Harris) says he doesn’t have to listen to it, and repeatedly dismisses Blake’s insults with derisive snorts and impatient hand gestures (that passive-aggressive, get-away-kid-you-bother-me multi-finger flick is fantastic), but once threatened, he parks his ass back in his chair and endures the rest of the spiel. Roma would not. Put Roma in the scene, and it falls apart, or at least becomes something entirely different. So he has to be banished—though, to be fair, he’s doing 72 percent of the office’s volume, judging from the board, so he doesn’t really need this speech.

    https://film.avclub.com/why-glengarry-glen-ross-alec-baldwin-scene-is-so-unusu-1798232383

  68. “kinda hoping kfg will show up with one of his more direct, lucid comments on it”

    Genetically speaking, the bacteria are the most evolved and the tardigrades are the badasses of the known universe.

    As a general principle genetic fitness is always relative to the environment. A spread of genetic traits makes a species more robust, because it will have individuals better suited for survival in a greater range of environments.

    There’s more than one breed of working dog because no one is “better.” Each has its specific strengths, paid for with corresponding weaknesses. A terrier is to small to hunt wolves, but you’re not going to stuff a wolfhound down a badger hole.

  69. As if baby sitting can prepare for raising children for a couple decades into adulthood. Well. The tough talk is strong. And Plans for The future: “Nothing new, besides, no one’s interested in something you didn’t do”

    If Mersonia wants to be part of a male only space, he could be a little less-of-a big dick. He actually said some good stuff once or twice. But only once or twice. Male spaces are a meritocracy. Maybe he can stand up and say some stuff which is meritorious for the tribe.

    And in mentioning Tribe, I’m referring to Red Pill and all that implies. Not PUA and all that implies. (and not there is anything wrong with PUA, at all. But there is definitely something wrong with sanctimonious PUA’s that want to justify, and dismiss Anna Karenina Principled Happy Families. Especially if those Families are Red Pilled. Which is what this Blog is all about: Red Pill Awareness. And Individual Game.)

    Red Pill is more inclusive and less selfish, self serving and less disordered than PUA.

    Merit is given as it is due.

  70. Ok, gentlemen. I have a situation I need to inquire about on behalf of a friend who thinks he’s red pill. I’m also curious because if one is indeed red pill aware then this can work right…

    The situation is that my friend met 2 webcam girl in Colombia one of them is 22. He plans to meet up with them with the goal of making one of them his wife. I tell him to hold up that you can’t turn a hoe into a wife. He says webcam girls are not hoe… o..k.
    The question then becomes if a guy is solidly redpill aware does it matter what kind of woman he dates. If it’s really the red pill awareness and its proper application that counts.

    Based on what I read on here I think my friend is trying to make a purple pill concoction. Then again if he’s frame is solid he just might well pull it off. What’s the verdict your honors?

  71. zipper: genetics is blah blah blah
    anon01: nope, it’s bleh bleh bleh
    zipper: why are you stupid? it’s blah blah blah
    anon01: let’s just forget about it, dummy

    hey kfg, what do you think?

  72. The notion that Red Pill can’t be “taught” runs counter to my experience.

    Just because 99.2% of dating coaches are blue pill, doesn’t mean it’s impossible to be a red pill dating coach.

    What about GoodLookingLoser?
    He’s a red pill guy who teaches guys how to actually get laid
    Every other source of information about picking up chicks has been worthless compared to his website, GoodLookingLoser.com

    You don’t think it would be possible to work one on one with a guy to help him understand evolutionary psychology? And then improve his physique? Then increase his assertiveness? Then improve his style? Then to overcome his approach anxiety through exposure therapy to approaching? Or provide a general guide to handling plates?

    Seriously?

    If you achieved some result in your sex life, would it be literally IMPOSSIBLE for you to share how you achieved that result with other red pill aware men to emulate?

    I think Rollo feels uncomfortable prescribing solutions and so he rationalises this by saying: There are no prescriptions. You make your own prescriptions. It’s impossible for me to give information that would help you detect on a first date if a woman has borderline personality disorder. Or to give you information about the demographic factors that would determine how likely a woman would be to divorce you (college educated + asian + virgin). Or give examples of how to apply amused mastery, and a breakdown of what it actually is.

    Red Pill Game CAN be taught, and can be taught by Rollo too, he just doesn’t.

    This whole “Red Pill is beyond step by step guides” does no favours for the red pill aware men who are STARVED for actionable guides.

    And that’s all you’re really saying: there can be no actionable guides for red pill. You have to invent your own guide.

    Bullshit.

  73. “tell us more about those 3 kids — 2 of which were retard — you raised without being an adult;

    It’s hard to read when your smashing your keyboard huh…… Like I said above the 3 kids have nothing to do with the 2 special ed kids that were assigned to me in high school (I just threw that in there because IFIfell was wondering about retard kids(It’s different the 2 retard kids were alot more stressful in the 4 hours a day I watched them than about 3 weeks with my regulars. On another note both the special kids graduated and have jobs and I go say wassup like every 2 years.. It’s cool to see they”re doing “fine”))

    “we were just discussing fucked up genetics”

    lol you guys can keep your conversation about how you lost in genetics…….

    “definitely not the norm so the possibility of your experiences skewing your perceptions towards the fucked up direction seem quite high; you can’t have both a childhood and raise children at the same time, so you’ve definitely been fucked in that regard; and now you’re fucking qualified to give advice lol”

    I consider most males adults at 16. Experiences just help you face reality . I had less time to live in a bubble than most of you ( and trust me i’m sure lots of people here have had a harder life than me ). I like to think i’m overqualified baby.

    ““…I know tons of guys with a LTR with children and plates….” :: lol, translation: as a professional layabout, I believe in having baby-mamas cut me a slice of their welfare checks, all my bros do it, too”

    Clearly you don’t think it’s possible to have a loving relationship LTR with kids and have plates…but you failed your marriage and whatnot and believe your a complete fuck up so it’s not surprising for you to have that view lol.

    “in fact, everything you’ve ever said about yourself has revealed what a fucking weirdo you must be…. that’s gotta be painful and strutting around insisting on how awesome you are is a fine way to cope…. for a bitch

    I’m awesome like a possum. Cause im awesome bro. I believe it so everyone else will 😀

    “always funny and irritating to see the brash young prick try his hand in the real world only to learn he ain’t the first to find out he doesn’t know shit; I was there and probably everyone else was, too”

    Everyone who’s anywhere is there for a reason buddy. Everyone’s here for a reason buddy

    “your beratings of those whose only mistake was believing what they’ve been told their whole lives only shows your own weakness… a lack of compassion that perhaps you yourself feel you didn’t get, how unfair; these men reveal their ignorance, ask for help, and you — “

    Most people deal with this…. I did 2 buddy. Do you want me to feel bad for you. To pity you and type quotes about how it’ll get better like sjf. The fact that you’ve been here this long tells me you’ll be fine. Why do you think I still post on hanks shit. He’ll get it eventually. I don’t feel bad for either of you. It is what it is. You know life’s only unfair when it’s not going your way.

    “fuck you”

    Nothing new here …I think rollo,sent,sjf,asd,blax,you,some other people, scribble,more people already said this.

    “don’t let the idea that some of the guys here that are willing to drop their pants in one particular area of their life lead you to think they are also deficient in other areas… plenty of badasses are blind to women and their ways, some even comment on this site”

    Never been a fan of men dropping their pants for me. Yes you should handle all areas of your life though… and clearly this site is here and being used for a reason. Though outside of this site why would I want men around me that can’t get remotely close to what I can.

Speak your mind

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s