The Creep – Part 2

Just so we’re clear here, yes, I get that there are a lot of ways to take the term ‘creepy’. In last week’s essay I wanted to dig into what women claim is ‘creepy’ and how this term is really another illustration of ambiguous fem-speak rooted in how a guy makes a woman feel. Furthermore, this feeling is modified by where that man is stationed in her perception of his sexual market value (SMV).

Last week I got linked a Tweet about ‘creeps’ by Roosh (he still hates me). He had a good point, and I paraphrase,

“Creeps are just guys that go from 0-100 in sexualizing a conversation with a woman way too fast. A good PUA knows that slow and steady sexualization works best.”

Take that how you want, but I think this is definitely part of the creep dynamic. There’s a bit more to being creepy than overly fast sexualization (or presumed familiarity); we’ve got to account for a Blue Pill / Beta guy’s lack of social intelligence to understand that taking it slow should be something he knows already. And still, how can we presume this slow and steady sexualization is a proficient form of seduction when we see more Alpha, more immediately arousing men, go from 0-100 themselves and get a same night lay? I’ve done this myself more than a few times back in a time when there was no formal Game to be had. Right guy, right place, right time, and 0-100 is what a woman is hoping will happen. Hypergamy is nothing if not pragmatic.

That said, I am convinced that this over-investment, too quick, too soon is definitely part of the creepy dynamic. I’ve made the call in several prior posts that it’s part of the Beta mindset to want to bypass the arousal and attraction phases of seduction to go directly to rapport. Thus, you get a guy who shares too much way too soon and this itself is creepy for women. It’s a huge telegraphing of that guy’s state of desperation and optionlessness. There’s no mystery left about the guy (assuming the girl even had an initial attraction) and nothing left to figure out. This over-sharing is also a huge red flag to women’s Hypergamous filters; it’s an indication that a guy ‘doesn’t get it’ with regard to how to play the Game with her.

You see, this rush to get to comfort and rapport is usually because that ‘creep’ is anxious to get past the arousal phase, the sexual tension, because he has no clue what to do in that phase. It’s a real source of anxiety for him, and besides, every woman he’s ever asked has said she needed to be comfortable with a guy before she has sex with him (false). Comfort, rapport, familiarity (all of which are anti-seductive) should be where the sex begins to his way of thinking, so again, male deductive logic would follow that getting there quickly would be pragmatic.

When a more Alpha, natural, moves quickly it’s almost always because he’s working with a receptive (proceptive) woman. As I mentioned before, arousal covers for a lot of men’s deficits in Game or feelings of creepery.

The Creeps

As most readers will have probably guessed I’ve timed the release of this series to address the current Hysteria of sexual assault / harassment / rape charges that are  moving like wildfire through Hollywood first, and now through the rest of our pop-culture social strata. While it may be satisfying to see mealy-mouth self-righteous actors and moguls take a fall, it’s important to see the larger social mechanics in play here.

I wrote that essay over a year ago and I’ll say now that I’d never dreamed how prophetic that post would turn out. Criticizing this #MeToo sexual assault hysteria is next to impossible. For the same reasons no one wanted to question the veracity of the UVA fraternity rape hoax that Rolling Stone and Sabrina Erdley perpetrated – no one now wants to question the accusations leveled at the various personalities being conveniently outed for sexual assault/harassment that in some cases occurred 30-40 years ago. We are expected to believe the testimonies of women without question.

This isn’t to say that the celebrities involved didn’t do what their accusers are saying they did, it’s that we are expected to accept that this behavior is endemic in all men, and based on the same principle of believing whatever a woman has to say about it with no afterthought given to its truth or her motives. It’s one thing to presume that whenever a woman comes forward with a rape or assault claim we are expected to presume the man guilty until proven innocent, but we’re rapidly reaching a point where any claim a woman has about a man bears that same weight. When it comes down to ‘he said, she said’, what she said will hold the full weight of the law.

Our Feminine-primary social order is now repurposing this ironclad believability of women – and presumed guilt of men – for every crime a woman ‘feels’ she’s been a victim of at the hands of a man. At the same time we see sexual harassment being defined as something that even a wink from a man can convey, we also see the rapid criminalization of men  who would dare to talk to a woman they don’t already know.

When we combine this overarching presumption of male guilt with the potential crime of men dealing with a woman with the intent of establish intimacy, and then add to it the ever changing definition of what can constitute sexual assault or harassment (and with a uniquely endless statute of limitations), we begin to get a clearer picture of the direction the Feminine Imperative has for men.

I’m sure this all seems very reactionary, but so was the questioning of Sabrina Erdley’s story about a nameless girl who was violently raped on the shattered glass of a broken coffee table by fraternity boys. Once again, I’m not saying sexual assault doesn’t happen, I’m saying that the direction gynocentrism is taking is one in which men ought to lose rights and liberties that only women ought to be the judges of.

Creepiness is a feeling women get from men who lack the social skills to ‘just get it’ that they are or aren’t into them. What this distills down to on a root level is women’s presuming that men should know better than to approach them when they are beneath their Hypergamous attraction floor. It is the criminalization of men not understanding how they fit into women’s sexual strategies. I made a case for this in The Political is Personal. The more men resist the social intents of Hypergamy, the more it will become necessary to legislate men to comply with it.

Feminine-primary social doctrine is an extension of  women’s Hypergamy.

Any deviation from this is on the part of  men is met with a cultural reprisal designed to convince or coerce men to accept their inevitable role in providing those entitlements to women. When those social contingencies fail, or become played out, the Feminine Imperative then appeals to legal legislation to mandate men’s compliance to what amounts to women’s social entitlement to optimized Hypergamy.

We’re rapidly reaching this peak Hypergamous state. As I mentioned in Male Control, since the Las Vegas shooting the narrative of masculinity has shifted. There is no more “toxic” masculinity – it’s masculinity on-whole that is toxic. As Open Hypergamy becomes more institutionalized and made a societal norm by the Feminine Imperative, and as more men become Red Pill aware (by effort or consequences) because of it, the more necessary it will become for a feminine-primary social order to legislate and mandate men comply with it.

In the Zone

Morpheus had a great comment last week that hit on what I went into in Sexual Zoning:

The term “creep” can really lead in a bunch of different directions discussion wise, but I think a really big one is “sexual zones” vs “non-sexual zones”. Increasingly, there are all sorts of places where the default presumption is that women should be “free from” male advances. Work, school, etc. In these zones, the margin for error is very small. Unless you are an objectively visually attractive man with super tight game, the odds of you being perceived as a “creep” are much, much higher. In sexual zones, such as the Friday night bar, your margin for error is higher. The default presumption is men are there to meet women. You still need to have the right social vibe and not come across as a weirdo but you have a little more room to play with.

And from that post:

I would argue that a large majority of men accused of sexual harassment or even just suspected of impropriety are men who’ve found themselves in an environment they believed was an acceptable sexual zone. We are fast approaching a time when all zones will be so arbitrary and ambiguous that every environment with sexual potential will be avoided. This will have the effect of putting women into unilateral control of their own Hypergamy. It will be a state of Sadie Hawkins world – only women will make approaches on men and only those who match her Hypergamous ideal, an ideal fostered and reinforced by a steady diet of social media ego inflation.

A while ago I read this piece about Mike Pence:

“In 2002, Mike Pence told The Hill that he never eats alone with a woman other than his wife and that he won’t attend events featuring alcohol without her by his side, either.”

Naturally the media wants to pass this off as some masculine insecurity on Pence’s part. Certainly there’s a religious reason for Pence not wanting to present any perception of impropriety – I’ve know pastor who will never have closed door meetings with women or do counseling for women without their wives present – but there is a practical side to this habit. It prevents the accusations and opportunity for anything like what we’re seeing in the accusation cycling through Hollywood today. But still, shaming the masculine is the first reflex for the mainstream media.

This Atlantic article is an exercise in deliberately not seeing the intersexual writing on the wall. This is the practical contingency for a social order bent on removing men via accusations of sexual misconduct. Yet still, for all of the inherent dangers of a frivolous sexual harassment suit at the disposal of any and every western woman, men are supposed to leave themselves vulnerable to them:

Pence is not the only powerful man in Washington who goes to great lengths to avoid the appearance of impropriety with the opposite sex. An anonymous survey of female Capitol Hill staffers conducted by National Journal in 2015 found that “several female aides reported that they have been barred from staffing their male bosses at evening events, driving alone with their congressman or senator, or even sitting down one-on-one in his office for fear that others would get the wrong impression.” One told the reporter Sarah Mimms that in 12 years working for her previous boss, he “never took a closed door meeting with me. … This made sensitive and strategic discussions extremely difficult.”

This is the social environment feminism and our gynocentric social order has chosen to establish for men and women. Men pragmatically look for ways to guard themselves against allegation, and yet are shamed for that sensibility. It’s gotten (or will get) to the point where old books “decent” behavior is too risky to engage in in the modern workplace. Powerful men must hide behind open doors, and still those men are shamed for being prudent. Why?

We live in a new era where marriage has become disincentivized for men by the risks of capital loss in divorce that overwhelmingly favors women with cash & prizes. Now add to this the increasing ego entitlements of women to high value men. As the prospect of marriage looks less and less like a good deal for men wanting to protect themselves there comes a need for women to create ways to bypass the requirement for marriage to access men’s capital. Enter the era of increasingly more nebulous, acrimonious, accusations of sexual harassment or assault and de facto believability of women’s testimony. Exit the era of frivolous divorce (okay maybe not entirely) and enter the era of more easily accessible capital via frivolous sexual assault lawsuits.

More to come in part 3.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

535 comments on “The Creep – Part 2

  1. @ Scribbler
    LOL she probably hit the gate on her way in drunk driving. The woman judge would never consider that she picked him up rather than him her. In her eyes it is always the woman that is taken advantage of.

    One expensive piece of ass all in all.

  2. International Men’s Day followed immediately by Tranny Day of Remembrance, Monday Nov 20 — recalling what some advocacy group claims is the 100-plus transsexual murder victims. Guess which day has already received more advance media coverage?

  3. ” . . . recalling what some advocacy group claims is the 100-plus transsexual murder victims.”

    So, like, a normal day for cisheteros in Chicago?

  4. O.B.I.T.
    International Men’s Day followed immediately by Tranny Day of Remembrance, Monday Nov 20 — recalling what some advocacy group claims is the 100-plus transsexual murder victims.

    It is unfortunate that people with mental problems sometimes wind up doing stupid things in stupid places with stupid people. Celebrating mental problems doesn’t help one bit.

  5. “Can men really not tell when a woman doesn’t love them?

    No, they can’t.

    Why? Because men want to believe that they can be happy, and sexually satisfied, and appreciated, and loved, and respected by a woman for who he is. It is men who are the real romantics, not women, but it is the grand design of hypergamy that men believe it is women who are the romantic ones.”

    https://k60.kn3.net/taringa/4/2/6/9/1/6/8/vampiritta/97F.jpg
    https://k60.kn3.net/taringa/4/2/6/9/1/6/8/vampiritta/5DA.jpg

  6. Ah, the new tube rig is sweet. At 55 I find myself interested in metal music for the first time, lol. Well, I got hit with west coast rap in 2011, listenin’ to Snoop as I type in fact. Life is a trip if one is open to it…Only complaint is that this damn flu will not quit.

    @Boulder – Alred actually got the call right from a legal perspective. Acts of deception on the record impeach a witness’s credibility. Interestingly, failure to live up contracts, especially capriciously in the way the blonde did can be used the same way as evidence of the value of a person’s word. Alred goes out of her way to point out she won’t use that here, which is probably right as it’s not like she committed fraud.

    The larger point is the way the guy handles it all. He fucks her, takes her car, crashes her gate down doing it, is dragged to court on TV – all with zero fucks given. Fyi, this is how many natural alphas behave. Unflappable but not loud or even very noticeable. Assertive but not in an overly aggressive way. Check out his entire vibe – I bet she’d fuck him again if he works it right. Lol.

  7. “Can men really not tell when a woman doesn’t love them?

    No, they can’t.

    Why? Because men want to believe that they can be happy, and sexually satisfied, and appreciated, and loved, and respected by a woman for who he is. It is men who are the real romantics, not women, but it is the grand design of hypergamy that men believe it is women who are the romantic ones.”

    Ahhh, there’s the rub right there.

  8. Elon Musk is Rolling Stone’s cover story.

    So much RP material (or rather BP material) in the parts about his love life:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/elon-musk-inventors-plans-for-outer-space-cars-finding-love-w511747

    “Then he heaves a sigh and ends his effort at composure. “I just broke up with my girlfriend,” he says hesitantly. “I was really in love, and it hurt bad.”

    He pauses and corrects himself: “Well, she broke up with me more than I broke up with her, I think.”

    Musk discusses the breakup for a few more minutes, then asks, earnestly, deadpan, “Is there anybody you think I should date? It’s so hard for me to even meet people.” He swallows and clarifies, stammering softly, “I’m looking for a long-term relationship. I’m not looking for a one-night stand. I’m looking for a serious companion or soulmate, that kind of thing.”

    I eventually tell him that it may not be a good idea to jump right into another relationship. He may want to take some time to himself and figure out why his previous relationships haven’t worked in the long run: his marriage to writer Justine Musk, his marriage to actress Talulah Riley, and this new breakup with actress Amber Heard.

    Musk shakes his head and grimaces: “If I’m not in love, if I’m not with a long-term companion, I cannot be happy.”

    I explain that needing someone so badly that you feel like nothing without them is textbook codependence.

    Musk disagrees. Strongly. “It’s not true,” he replies petulantly. “I will never be happy without having someone. Going to sleep alone kills me.” He hesitates, shakes his head, falters, continues. “It’s not like I don’t know what that feels like: Being in a big empty house, and the footsteps echoing through the hallway, no one there – and no one on the pillow next to you. Fuck. How do you make yourself happy in a situation like that?””

  9. @Scribbler

    Composure is something women have around everyone, men learn to have around men and seldom learn to have around women, Yep that guys got it. Totally funny he took the lying bitches car after fucking her.

    If he could have proved the deception on her part the judge was falling for him to;
    I would have beat the rap, from the picture the gate is smashed in not out.

  10. “Elon Musk is super beta”

    how the fuck does the ability to talk govt idiots out of hundreds of millions of dollars not translate to the ability to talk girls into spreading nightly?

    he has sucked more value out of this country than a million girls have to offer. how does he not see this?

    with that kind of pitch ability, he should be using hb7s as footstools

    amber must be some kind of pussy eating superfucker. would definitely bang a lot just to find out what’s up

  11. how the fuck does the ability to talk govt idiots out of hundreds of millions of dollars not translate to the ability to talk girls into spreading nightly?

    Duh. The combination of logic and emotion required to get a special tax break for your car is not the same as the combo required to get wet panties dropped.

    Perhaps he’s borderline autistic. Perhaps he’s borderline bipolar. Whatever his issue(s) may be, he proves pretty conclusively that “money game” ain’t game at all.

  12. “The combination of logic and emotion required to get a special tax break for your car is not the same as the combo required to get wet panties dropped. ”

    not the same combo, but the same approach. pitches can and should be reverse engineered. that’s basically rsd. but owen aint talkin nobody out of hundereds of millions. he can barely talk incels into dropping hundreds.

    big tax breaks are far more rare than pussy. he found the keywords and approach to talk people out of something far more precious to them than a pussy is to the woman who owns it… their “money”

    dude has tons of potential

  13. Musk is a victim of the blue pill lie and believing the media. He is a man with vision and creativity.

    It would be impossible to go from 6000 production to 6000000 production in the time he estimated. Even if he wasn’t fucked by the lie of equalism, a non competitive workforce of participation trophy hunters and the rising cost of compliance. He still couldn’t get it done in time. When people started to realize this and began pulling their money, coupled with the sexual harassment suits in the company, the necessary firing of 300 some nonessentials all broadcast by the media. It is no wonder if the man broke down in front of his girl and drove her away.

    The whole setup was a house of cards from the beginning. Send him a copy of all three books.

  14. Elon

    “I’m looking for a long-term relationship. I’m not looking for a one-night stand. I’m looking for a serious companion or soulmate, that kind of thing.””

    Go watch the Tommy Sausage MTV vid. You have the heart of a day laborer…

  15. Blax

    “Can men really not tell when a woman doesn’t love them?

    No, they can’t.”

    Well they can believe that a woman will not love “him”…

  16. fleezer
    not the same combo, but the same approach. pitches can and should be reverse engineered.

    “Should be”…pretty obvious Musk doesn’t see that. Can’t see that. Will he see it? No idea.

    Read all that emotionality about how he can’t sleep alone and his house is so empty and blahblahbah – obviously he stinks of thirsty, needy Beta, women can smell it and eventually they can’t stand it.

    Clearly he’s got alll the Dynamic, Authentical Passion that is needed to close really big deals, carve out unique tax breaks, inspire entire teams of very intelligent people to build new and reusable rockets to break existing orbital launch monopolies…and he’s blue pill. Deep blue pill. So he continues to fail with women.

    Here’s a man who can rework part of a couple of world industries, but he can’t get reliably laid. It borders on a Greek tragedy.

  17. I didn’t post the rest of the article but if you keep reading you’ll come to the part where the reporter goes back to his house a few weeks later and he’s hanging out upstairs in his home with his ex wife Tallulah Riley (her of the married, then divorced, then remarried, then filed for divorce, then withdrew divorce filing, then divorced again finally, now hanging out together fame..)

  18. “Clearly he’s got alll the Dynamic, Authentical Passion that is needed to”

    Bang Amber Heard…

    Alpha is attractive. What you do from there is different.

    Cue Tommy Sausage video…

  19. Culum
    I didn’t post the rest of the article but if you keep reading you’ll come to the part where the reporter goes back to his house a few weeks later and he’s hanging out upstairs in his home with his ex wife Tallulah Riley (her of the married, then divorced, then remarried, then filed for divorce, then withdrew divorce filing, then divorced again finally, now hanging out together fame..)

    I’ve known thirsty Betas who did a limited version of that “break up – take her back – break up – reconnect” game. Most men figure out in high school or by age 25 at the latest it’s a no-win situation.

    Sentient
    “Clearly he’s got alll the Dynamic, Authentical Passion that is needed to”

    Bang Amber Heard…

    For a while…but only for a while…

    Women have mentioned a time or two in various places that thirsty betas are lousy in bed.
    Just saying.

    Alpha Money is attractive. What you do from there is different.

    FIFY.

  20. AR

    “Women have mentioned a time or two in various places that thirsty betas are lousy in bed.”

    Women also break up with uncontrollable Alpha’s who are great in bed.

    And settle down with said betas.

    Just sayin…

  21. Sentient, don’t move the goalposts like that, it’s unmanly.

    Read this quote from Musk.

    “I will never be happy without having someone. Going to sleep alone kills me.” He hesitates, shakes his head, falters, continues. “It’s not like I don’t know what that feels like: Being in a big empty house, and the footsteps echoing through the hallway, no one there – and no one on the pillow next to you. Fuck. How do you make yourself happy in a situation like that?””

    Come on, is this man an Alpha or butthurt lonely Beta? You tell me.

    I get that you have a good idea with DPA, that it is how you work and that there are other examples out there. I get that you are a natural and thus have a solipsistic tendency so you figure every other man is potentially like you, and every man with the DPA to be a billionaire has to be like you.

    But now you are arguing with reality: if DPA all by itself is more than enough to draw women in, and if Elon Musk is Dynamic, Passionate and Authentic enough to revamp the car industry and the Low Earth Orbit launch vehicle industry but his women keep getting unhaaaaapy and leaving him, then where does that leave you? Either you have to revise your theory, or you have to rewrite reality. Maybe Alpha is multidimensional? Maybe one kind of Passionate isn’t the same as another?

    Whatever. Dynamic, Passionate and Authentic may be necessary, but they are not sufficient. The Red Pill / the Glasses is required. Elon Musk demonstrates this very clearly. So clearly that any sentient being should grasp the obvious fact.

  22. I ” like ” Elon ( as much as you can like someone that you don’t know and have never met once ) and I respect his ideas and a lot of what he’s trying to accomplish.

    The Tesla is a very cool piece of machinery, and it will continue to evolve. It would be optimal if Elon could get around the automotive dealer/manufacturer monopoly that’s trying ( successfully )to stifle him until they can perfect a real way to compete with him. I see a couple of Teslas on my way to work every day, so hopefully he can scale up one day soon and lower the price points.

    I’m going to finish the Rolling Stone article though, as soon as I can get it to stop freezing up on my nuc. ( I dislike chrome, but ie is really leaving me no choice here…).

    But, being smart and talented and driven and good at building organizations and taking on gigantic established industries – 1) doesn’t denote Alpha in any way, shape or form. We have waayyyy too many examples to ignore this fact. 2) Does not mean that ability in one or several fields of endeavor are transferable to relationships with the opposite sex.

    By his words and deeds Elon is hopelessly Blue Pill Beta currently.

  23. “if DPA all by itself is more than enough to draw women in, and if Elon Musk is Dynamic, Passionate and Authentic”

    Hold everything there. Elon Musk is not authentic. And yes he has some autistic traits. So do I, which is not the same as actually having autism disorder. For guys like Elon, he revels in his traits, so do I.

    What that means are that traits are not disease.

    And here is where I differ from Rollo. All this fucking talk about Myers-Briggs not being valid is totally true. All this twitter feud with Pat Stedman and TheArful man is a good feud by Rollo. I back Rollo in that feud because I buy into Rollo’s Red Pill Brand, while those guys are feeling their way through their blog life and are learning as they go.

    That being said, Stedman and the Artful man have a bunch of tools that I find useful in a bottoms up approach. They are useful to me. I agree that they are not a platform for any and all reasoned guy.

    They have a lot of good content. YaReally had a lot of good content–98% of it. The other half is conjecture.

    Let me just say that if you took Elon Musk’s personality type. That is not going to change. His words are predictable. Because that is him. (And he’s a douche AFC in relationship Game).
    He’s fucked in calling for a LTR. Because of his “Type”.

    He’s an INTF and he’s entirely predictable in romantic relationships. But it is a glaring weakness. And he doesn’t know it’s a weakness because he doesn’t know Red Pill: How women and Amber Heard operate. I bet he bored the shit as a Beta out of Amber Heard. But I don’t place Amber Heard as a woman that a guy like Elon Musk can ever be happy with. She’s a a celebrity figment of his own romantic AFC Beta imagination. No possible way he can be satisfied with a girl like that, that had too many Alpha widow experience with him being a Beta. Can’t buy love. He wants love and romance more than desire.

    Elon is lost in his idealism and not an Authentic Alpha. Sure he is passionate and dynamic for ideas. Is that enough to get a girl? Fuck no. He most certainly couldn’t pick up on Amber’s emotional needs. That’s part of who he is. Clueless in who he is and what Amber needs.

    So back to Myer-Briggs. It is all so predictable for Elon. He’s set in his ways. Just look at his ways. He would do well to avoid his weaknesses and play to his strengths. In fact, he should just use Seeking Arrangements. That would definitely play to his strengths, and his Clueless in Romance problem would simply vanish like one of his rockets.

  24. I guess as men we usually get to a point where we desire a woman to love us. Even when Scrib says he wants to ease a bit on chasing pussy and try for quality, I suspect he is getting the itch for companionship and quality interaction rather than just rubbibg genitals with someone. The love. But it is nowhere to be found.This is the ultimate test I think. Brad Pitt and Tesla have had this itch too and found out like all of us that there are no exceptions. Very few men live their entire lives without getting to the point of desiring companionship with a woman. I think that, for me, the time it dawned on me that this kind of love did not exist is the point where pussy chasing started. They are selfish, so I too had to be. I have slept with so many women I have no idea how many, yet I cannot find true happiness in that. I just have to accept that what my heart would be tempted to look for does not exist. All the women I have slept with were not out to better my life out of the goodness of their hearts. It was ALWAYS because they felt there was a benefit for them, that there was something they could take away from me at the moment. Companionship with a woman is a pipe dream, (or a dream in an infinitely long pipeline). BUT STILL, even after knowing all that, I find myself looking for it from time to time. Damn, fuck this. It wont go away this itch.

  25. cheupez
    “Very few men live their entire lives without getting to the point of desiring companionship with a woman. I think that, for me, the time it dawned on me that this kind of love did not exist is the point where pussy chasing started. They are selfish, so I too had to be. I have slept with so many women I have no idea how many, yet I cannot find true happiness in that.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGw0CFFdZvQ
    https://archive.org/details/pdfy-vXiSrVKID8X2y4pD

    “even after knowing all that, I find myself looking for it from time to time. Damn, fuck this. It wont go away this itch.”

  26. When you understand how female attraction works and some social intelligence, this will all make sense.

    It’s all to do with comfort.

    A good looking guy will naturally create comfort in a girl due to his good looks and thus assumed to get the same feedback with other girls. Thus, he’s able to say things that average guys won’t be able to at the start.

    This is why Game works. It levels the playing field for guys who aren’t blessed with good genetics.

    Thus, all that’s required is a bit of verbal rapport, banter and familiarity.

    It’s no different to the dynamic of having a complete stranger come up to you and call you a “Dick.”

    Regardless of if it was done in jest, you would find it insulting and would thus want to punch that guy in the face.

  27. Just for the record. Tommy sausage is just a scared shit talking kid, that starts trouble for his friends. If he was alone he would keep his big mouth shut. if the guy really lifted forms and paddled crete all day everyday his pencil neck would be nonexistent. Good for him getting out there and chasing tail. Really just a germ wanabe wop, good looking kid with no brains. Blue pill beta all the way. When the shit hits the fan his type is the first to hide behind the big guys.

    I like how the little guy walked right up put his hand on tommys waist and sweet talked him.
    Funny shit…

  28. What happened here last night?

    I check in and see Alpha is all about keeping girls in relationships and meeting their emotional needs?

    Crickey!!!!

    Someone better go tell Genghis Kahn.

    Let’s get back to basics. Back to biology. Biological success is what? Procreation. End of.

    AR’ s attempts to Build A Better Alpha are merely reflections of his own desires… Hit it HABD!!

    Amber Heard was banged out for some reason… On the Plains of Ur she would have his child. Today via abortifacients he is denied his lineage. His sperm do not know this though…

    Now that we have reset the goalposts AR, if you want to score a tap in I’ll put the ball dead center on the three yard line, pull the keeper and let you take a swipe… If you want to say Red Pill is important (but not essential) in managing a relationship with a woman… Well crack at it son. You score!

    Musk is BP Alpha.

    SJF

    ” He most certainly couldn’t pick up on Amber’s emotional needs. That’s part of who he is. Clueless in who he is and what Amber needs.”

    Not required for sex…

    Blax

    “Does not mean that ability in one or several fields of endeavor are transferable to relationships with the opposite sex.”

    Not required for sex…

    Dionysus

    “So…. time go long on brothels? Are the any publicly traded ones that anyone knows of?”

    You know the robots are taking future jobs right? Go long on a JV between US Robotics and Bezos. Amazon Sex Services delivered via drone. Free with Prime.

    Boulderhead

    “If he was alone he would keep his big mouth shut. ”

    Besmirching the legend of The Sausage. Tsk tsk. He was alone with his girl friend (not girlfriend) when he called out the fat guy and got kicked out of the bar.

  29. “revamp the car industry and the Low Earth Orbit launch vehicle industry”

    Women who desire you don’t care about your low or high or anywhere in-between launch vehicle.

  30. I don’t see how the “red pill” will prevent hypergamy. Even if you could use “game” to make women choose different partners, all that would do is put a different set of men at the top, the ones with the best game.

    Given that fact, I don’t see that women _or_ men benefit, on average, from any attempts to influence women’s desires as to who they want as partners. (And women obviously freak out when men try to control their sexuality, not necessarily because they like hypergamy per se, but because of humans’ evolutionary history of rape. Women who were raped were at a severe disadvantage throughout history. Casual sexual encounters which they are not fully in control of remind women of rape.)

    While men might like it if men were all paired off with women one to one in marriage from an early age like in the 1950s, I don’t see how that will happen given (a) the long period of education in our culture that delays marriage for women and men, and (b) our great material wealth that permits women to materially support themselves to some extent.

  31. Red pill isn’t supposed to stop hypergamy, yet a man can quell into a great extent.

    Yes, men with game will always have the most options/abundance. Not a bad thing at all.

    Cultural wealth shit aside, women’s basic software remains unchanged over time. There are an few more twists added to the mix, but chicks are mostly the same and under the right conditions, react in similar ways to stimulus.

    The FI wants you to believe that women don’t want their individual sexuality ” controlled “. This is grape flavored kool aid. What most modern women object to is the overt and clumsy attempts to exert control. Again, game is helpful along with red pill understanding.

    No, we can’t get in a way back machine and return to the mythical 1950’s, but men can have it much much better than it is currently.

  32. Generations of men, BP trained, ate required for the present power structure. Alphas, then women, then Betas. Women in the workplace reduce payroll costs, betas trained to accept female equality reduce their own expectations.

    Red Pill pierces the FI vaneer, increasing men’s options.

  33. Our sensei (and others, SgtTon knows) have spoken before in Burden Of Performance and its sequels how lots of us men say they tire of performing, want to lay down this burden, relax, give it up and coast into Valhalla.

    Which RP swallowers know cannot be done safely. The Burden never stops for any man, Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Epsilon, Froot Loops or whatever. Your stated refusal to perform is your performance. As Sam Kinison screamed: “It never ends! It never ends!”

    You must Always Be Closing.

    I know this and you know this and I say it again here but it’s hard for me to keep front and center. I keep slipping into darkness now and then, you just get tired and deciding “Relax – don’t do it” seems the easy way to go. And it is: over the cliff, if you don’t catch yourself in time.

    And now, courtesy of the Univ. of Oklahoma, here is your official doubleplusgood pronoun chart from the Tying Yourself In Knots Dept. (this is real, no gag):

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Screen-Shot-2017-11-17-at-11.41.42-AM.png

  34. Alpha is all about keeping girls in relationships and meeting their emotional needs?

    Game, to some degree, is about spiking girls’ emotions and giving comfort to avoid ASD, LMR, etc. Whether they are just some stranger or in a relationship with you doesn’t matter much.

    Let’s get back to basics. Back to biology. Biological success is what? Procreation. End of.

    Sex =/= procreation (usually necessary, but not sufficient because birth control, luteal phase, babymaker broken, etc.)

    If you want to say Red Pill is important (but not essential) in managing a relationship with a woman…

    Some naturals can manage a relationship and some can’t. Some guys get pumped and dumped. (Faux alphas) Sex isn’t the only yardstick. Fuck evo psychosis.

    Behavior is essential for managing a relationship with a woman…if you do it naturally, you don’t need TRP. If you aren’t a natural, you need TRP. Same old shit. This ain’t rocket surgery.

    Musk is BP Alpha.

    well, we agree that he’s BP…not dominant as far as Heard is concerned so not really alpha

    Biological success is what? Procreation.

    More like seeing your grandkids. So that you know that your kids can also procreate. Usually requires a relationship of some sort.

    As to Musk crying…alphas cry, too, when a relationship ends…but alphas are always spinning plates (doesn’t require banging)…I think about my dance partners sometimes, of course

    I’ve been married longer than Blax’s combined marriages to a woman few men could keep, but I still don’t know shit about Game, obviously, lol (Mrs. Gamer shit tests like a motherfucker…subtly and with complexity and surprise)

    Mrs. Gamer asked me who left the garage doors open last night…I said I did, even tho Mrs. Gamer was moving her pots into the garage…I forgot to check the garage last night. Can you figure out why I made the right move?

    “Does not mean that ability in one or several fields of endeavor are transferable to relationships with the opposite sex.”

    Not required for sex…

    …but typically are for procreation

  35. Asd

    pro·cre·a·tion
    ˌprōkrēˈāSH(ə)n/Submit
    noun
    the production of offspring; reproduction.
    “in general animals copulate purely for the purpose of procreation”

  36. @Alan Green

    As Rollo often states Red Pill is your Awareness, Game is your practice.

    Your awareness of Hypergamy and its ramifications are tremendously valuable to adapting to a society in which there is less monogamy in the system. Despite some naysayers, awareness of Red Pill is valuable for Game practice.

    “Even if you could use “game” to make women choose different partners, all that would do is put a different set of men at the top, the ones with the best game.”

    That is correct. Women will only behave better in a society in which most everyone is paired and they can’t get with the set of men at the top.

    I don’t hold any glimmer of hope for what I think needs to be done, or is best for society (which is not the same as what is best for an individual man).

    So I’m going to do what’s best for me in a bottoms up way.

    I re-read F. Roger Devlin’s Sexual Utopia in Power again, and he deals with why the problems occurred.

    He’s Red Pill, but he argues for marriage (under the correct conditions) as better for society. Not that he thinks it will happen or has a suggestion as to how to do that, just that things work better. And he describes how women got in this mess, which is a mess for the bottom 90% majority of men. But obviously this isn’t going to just happen any time soon. (nor do I believe totally collapse is imminent.)

    https://www.toqonline.com/archives/v6n2/DevlinTOQV6N2.pdf

    Quote:

    CONCLUSION

    Marriage is an institution; it places artificial limits on women’s choices. To
    repeat: Nature dictates that males display and females choose. Monogamy
    artificially strengthens the male’s position by insisting that 1) each female
    must choose a different male; and 2) each female must stick to her choice.
    Monogamy entails that highly attractive men are removed from the mating pool
    early, usually by the most attractive women. The next women are compelled
    to choose a less attractive mate if they wish to mate at all. Even the last and
    least of the females can, however, find a mate: For every girl there is a boy.
    Abolishing marriage only strengthens the naturally stronger: It strengthens
    the female at the expense of the male and the attractive at the expense of the
    unattractive.

    Marriage, like most useful things, was probably invented by men: Partly to
    keep the social peace, partly so they could be certain their wives’ children were
    also their own. The consequences of marriage must have appeared soon after
    its institution: the efforts previously spent fighting over mates were replaced
    by strenuous exertions to provide for, rear, and defend offspring. No doubt
    surrounding tribes wondered why one of their neighbors had recently grown
    so much stronger. When they learned the reason, imitation must have seemed
    a matter of survival.

    It was, and it still is. If the Occident does not restore marriage, we will be
    overwhelmed by those who continue to practice it.

    “Given that fact, I don’t see that women _or_ men benefit, on average, from any attempts to influence women’s desires as to who they want as partners.”

    Frame is not power. But it still can influence a woman’s desire for a figuratively stronger man.

    Having Red Pill Awareness and having mastery with Game, just gives a woman another option: To choose you if you want her. Bottoms up. The top down game is already lost.

    In the section: FROM SEXUAL ANARCHY TO SEXUAL TERROR of that linked essay of his he deals with “Casual sexual encounters which they are not fully in control of remind women of rape.”

    It’s worth a re-read for Red Pill context of the current climate.

    (That link to F. Roger Devlin’s Sexual Utopia in Power is just the first part of the book of the same name, in the book there are six other chapters derived from essays of his. If you are interested in Red Pill social themes, it is a good read. It goes into the rape hysteria themes and even into the origins of Weinsteining phenomenon that is being manifest now.

  37. I would not be surprised if Elon Musk swallowed a bullet after his next ‘soul mate’ leaves him. The guy is definitely talented, has vision, makes shit happen etc. but his undoing will be his ego-investment in his Blue Pill conditioning. I’ve seen his story played out many many times before.

  38. Maybe Musk is a romantic Alpha…

    A la Johnny Depp

    (Cue New York Stories, Life Lessons)

    “woman” as muse to his creative process…

    http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/gallery/johnny-depp-girlfriends-exes

    “”I helped him out of his limo,” she alleged. “Our eyes locked, and he asked me to marry him.” ” Tally Chanel

    Also

    “Writing in her autobiography, she [porn star Traci Lords] wrote: “I was thinking, ‘Would Johnny expect me to be amazing in bed?’ What if I wasn’t? How could I possibly date anyone, let alone sleep with him, with all this pressure? He climbed into bed next to me and smiled. I was nervous as heck with him so close.””

    Think about that.

  39. “Kate [Moss] said of the time: “There’s nobody that’s ever really been able to take care of me. Johnny did for a bit. I believed what he said. Like if I said, ‘What do I do?,’ he’d tell me. And that’s what I missed when I left. I really lost that gauge of somebody I could trust. Nightmare. Years and years of crying. Oh, the tears!””

  40. “I would not be surprised if Elon Musk swallowed a bullet after his next ‘soul mate’ leaves him. ”

    Dont think he is a Heath Ledger.
    I think he is faking his blue pill beliefs for profit but time will tell.

  41. ” Maybe this is what MGTOW really looks like?”

    MGTOWs say, “Thats what Incels look like”. Many MGTOWs look or aspire to and live like Lui Marco.

    Lots of mischaracterization on this echo-chamber page just reflecting the frogs-in-well biases of alphas-in-their-own-street projecting out to rest of the world.

  42. Rugby

    Other doods…

    Interesting 4 part interview.

    http://purple.fr/magazine/ss-2010-issue-13/terry-richardsons-life-story-2/

    OLIVIER ZAHM — Who was your first girlfriend?
    TERRY RICHARDSON — She was a Mexican girl. I was messing around with girls a bit in Junior High. There was this girl in drama class who’d take me backstage when we did theater productions. I was 13 and she was 14. She was a teacher’s aide. She’d pull me backstage after class to make out with me. I would look forward to her seducing me. I’d never been with a girl before. It went on for months and it was incredible. I never went inside of her, but she’d undo my pants and I’d come immediately. She didn’t even have to touch it — when you’re 13 you just explode. Then one day she cut me off. Started hanging out with another guy. It really destroyed me. I was wrecked. But the next year I got another girlfriend, named Rosie. She was 13 and I was 14. We’d make out. I never had sex with her but I did finger-bang her. She went away with her family for a vacation in the summer. She didn’t call me when she got back, and then when she did she said, “I met an older guy and I had sex with him and I’m breaking up with you.” I smashed up my parents’ apartment, broke lamps. Just screaming. I was so obsessed with this girl, my first love. She gets fucked by a 17-year-old guy. She breaks up with me and then he dumps her.

    OLIVIER ZAHM — Were you really in love with her?
    TERRY RICHARDSON — No, just obsessed. I was with the next girl a whole year but we never had sex. I was always ready to explode! I had a boner all the time when I was with her. I have pictures of me with her and you can see my boner. But we never did anything. I didn’t know what to do. I didn’t know how to ask her to “touch it” or “do this or that.” I was so afraid to put the moves on her. Then she started seeing another kid and fucking him every day! Doing that teenage sex thing, where once you start screwing, you screw all the time. It was devastating for me.

    OLIVIER ZAHM — After you smashed up your parents’ apartment, did you explain to them why you were so angry?
    TERRY RICHARDSON — Yeah. They didn’t really punish me. They came home and I was throwing things out the front door, smashing things. When I got upset I’d throw tantrums and smash things — lamps, phones, whatever.

    OLIVIER ZAHM — I remember when you smashed up that room in The Bristol Hotel.
    TERRY RICHARDSON — Yeah, yeah, like 20,000 euros in damage. You were there. It was me and my friend Dennis Lanni. We smashed the whole fucking room up. It was fun for about a minute. You were grabbing me, yelling, “No, no! You have to stop! This is Paris!” We were throwing plates and furniture out the fourth-floor window. It was insanity. Oh, man. It looked like a murder scene. Red wine on the ceiling. So many things were broken. There’s that saying, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” It’s funny — in therapy I’ve learned that if I can’t fix something, I break it. It’s like a metaphor. I flood with anger and I don’t know what to do with it.

    OLIVIER ZAHM — You had the same reaction when you broke up with Camille Bidault Waddington.
    TERRY RICHARDSON — Yeah, I smashed up my apartment in New York.

  43. Lol…

    OLIVIER ZAHM — Is that why you have like so many bicycles?
    TERRY RICHARDSON — I love bikes. I’m happiest when I’m riding. Cruising clears my head. It’s funny. I was just thinking that when I was young I never had a teacher — sexually, I mean. I never had an older brother or friend teach me about the birds and the bees, how to kiss, how to touch. No one told me that this is what you should or shouldn’t do. I had to figure it out myself and it took me a long time. One girl kind of seduced me. But she had all the power. She controlled the situation. Did you ever have anyone like that? What was your first experience like?

    OLIVIER ZAHM — It was with an older woman, a friend of my parents. A philosophy teacher.
    TERRY RICHARDSON — I remember touching a girl for the first time. I didn’t know what the hell to do. You’re like rubbing her all over and you put your finger in… How old were you?

    OLIVIER ZAHM — Fourteen.
    TERRY RICHARDSON — How old was she?

    OLIVIER ZAHM — Somewhere between 32 and 35, I guess — twice my age. She took my hand.
    TERRY RICHARDSON — Having an experience like that gives you a certain confidence.

    OLIVIER ZAHM — Absolutely. After that, back in school, being with girls my age … well, you know…
    TERRY RICHARDSON — You were experienced.

    OLIVIER ZAHM — I was confident.
    TERRY RICHARDSON — So how many times were you with her?

    OLIVIER ZAHM — A lot. I saw her all summer. She was one of my father’s lovers.
    TERRY RICHARDSON — You were sleeping with your father’s lover? That’s incredible!

    OLIVIER ZAHM — She came to our vacation house. I was with her on the side. But I also learned from reading books and magazines, and from watching films.
    TERRY RICHARDSON — Yeah. When I was 15 there was a cheerleader at Hollywood High, a Polish girl, this big, blonde girl. She was different, and a year older than me. I went out with her, but we never did anything. We’d just make out. I couldn’t figure out where we could go to have sex. Then one night we went to her house and had sex. No condom. It lasted maybe a minute or two. Afterwards I didn’t want to be with her — and she was a fucking blonde Hollywood High cheerleader! She was in love with me and I rejected her! In a weird way maybe I was traumatized. Then she said I was avoiding her. One day she said, “I gotta tell you something. I’m pregnant and I’m gonna keep the baby.”

    OLIVIER ZAHM — No!
    TERRY RICHARDSON — Yeah. You can imagine? I’m 15. For a month I’m hysterical. Totally overwhelmed. After a month, she says to me, “Just kidding.”

    OLIVIER ZAHM — She got her revenge.
    TERRY RICHARDSON — That was it for me. No more women that year.

    When I was in 6th grade a girl called my house and told my parents she was pregnant and I was the dad… Lol. I never knew her, was a prank but damn some hard conversations followed…

  44. From Apples grow Trees…

    OLIVIER ZAHM — Do you think your father was getting more and more radical himself?
    TERRY RICHARDSON — Yeah. In his best work, especially in that of the Sixties and early Seventies, he really fucking pushed it. He cared so much about a goddamn picture that he would put all the energy he had into it. It was so important to him that it be powerful and perfect. When he was with my mom, in the Sixties, he would put a piece of tape on the floor, and my mom would have to say to people, “You’re not allowed to cross this line. Bob will be working over there. You have to stay behind this line.” Then my dad would go into the bathroom, pull out his syringe, inject crystal meth, and walk out like Jesus Christ Superstar. Then he’d shoot a half a roll of film and disappear. For an ad, it would be one great picture and he’d just be, like, “It’s my fucking vision! I don’t have to listen to you! It’s my picture! Go fuck yourself. Get outta my way.” When he took speed he obviously became delusional. Throughout the Seventies he didn’t want to compromise, he didn’t want to illustrate someone else’s idea and do cheesy commercial ads. He just couldn’t. So, little by little, he became frustrated.

  45. @ Sentient

    7th grade, she gave me a hickey and I fingerbanged her, then nothing.

    2 weeks later my baseball teammates tell me I’m going to be a daddy. I remember not worrying about the pregnancy and the issue faded but was too inexperienced to see what trouble she was: high sex drive, low self esteem.

  46. “I’ve seen his story played out many many times before.”

    he’s crying out for help. doesn’t the fucking guy have a twitter or something?

    just as long as he didn’t kill the messenger, the man that opened e lon’s eyes to the facts of human nature would be rewarded handsomely. just imagine sarging with a red pill superpua version of musk. that shit would be INSANE. somebody should puddle him with lsd too. for weeks on end. and record it all

    there is only one man here who has the cred to pitch him on the red pill.

    of course a tip of the hat to our host

  47. “just as long as he didn’t kill the messenger, the man that opened e lon’s eyes to the facts of human nature would be rewarded handsomely. just imagine sarging with a red pill superpua version of musk.”

    He’d prob just kill everyone

  48. ““Clearly he’s got alll the Dynamic, Authentical Passion that is needed to”

    Bang Amber Heard…”

    and what if she likes to be choked until she passes out, and fucked into oblivion alonside as many gorgeous whores as he liked to rent for the weekend?

    I would not be happy about losing an asset like that as specialty items are often difficult to replace

    amber might be the kind of specialty item one must test drive to fully appreciate

  49. Lol, Elon Musk is in no manner an alpha ( as I understand it to be defined, which is close to the standard definition ), and as much as I like and admire the things he sets out to accomplish, it still remains to be seen if he has the stuff to be considered alpha in the industrial world. He’s off to a nice start and all, but his glaring deficiency Wrt being super blue pill with women is foreshadowing an idealistic weakness that could fuck him sans Vaseline in the end.

    He’s still one hell of a guy though, in my estimation, and I’m pulling for him to hang tough and not get destroyed by tptb. Somebody’s got to move the needle forward.

    Maybe his struggles in business will toughen him up to the point that his geeky way of thinking will connect a few dots Wrt women and relationships. I mean, its possible. Maybe.

    But if anyone thinks Musk is in anyway alpha , you need to hone your perspective skills. At the very best, he might just be somewhat of a situational alpha type in business because people will defer and be in awe, and he might not even realize it giving him an aire of aloofness or something, lol, but it will be by accident and fleeting u til he happens to fail a few too many times.

    But I hope he succeeds. America has been sorely lacking in major technical innovations, mostly due to the greed of giant monopolies only concerned with massive profits. Hopefully Musk’s presence and determination will serve as a reminder to other men with talent.

    So, I hope he doesn’t let his blue pillness make him put a bullet in his noggin.

  50. “amber might be the kind of specialty item one must test drive to fully appreciate”

    Proly have to get in line she just cashed in all her tesla stock. She will have it spent soon enough AWALT.

    Lol on the puddle and film picture, stuck in my mind like a fat church lady scarin Jesus away from comin back, sein whats in his savings account.

  51. “Btw, there’s absolutely nothing special about Amber Heard. At all.”

    except she was able to fuck her way on to johnny’s velvet boat. just like there was nothing special about that chick with one leg that took mccartney for multi millions

    these are serious girls running serious cons. all kinds of girls aspire to be gold diggers, many of them much much better looking on the surface than heard or mills, yet they fail to achieve admission to the big game like their hb6ish counterparts…

    why?

    ” fuck that hoe ”

    sounds butthurt. and I don’t think he’s one to cry over spilled milk or burgundy. getting played sucks no matter how much caviar spread on little pancakes you down while it’s happening

    the question is, how the fuck did she even get into the position to play him in the first place? his radar must have been honed after years in the business and she got around it

    she’s got some kind of game. we’re talking about her and who she fucks, right? her game reminds me of kristen dundst game

    nobody knows why they want to fuck her ugly face. we just do. hb5. would choke and bang a lot. even better if heard was there too

  52. We men tend to make a lot of false assumptions about other men that have fame and money and bang tons of chicks because of these things.

    One can bang a thousand chicks and still not really know much about females other than how to put a dick in them.

    These are the guys that get taken by chicks with game and gold diggers. The chicks read their weaknesses and exploit them. If the man in question was red pill, he’d already know how that ” weakness ” shit makes him vulnerable in a very bad way.

    Game recognise game.

  53. Musk has more going against him than women, most tradesmen change negotiating tactics when bidding a rush job. communication needs to be set between sub contractors or nothing gets done at all.

    Still is odd this airing at the same time as the sexual harrassment case against his company.
    Like wag the dog or something.

  54. That article illustrates exactly why I want Musk to succeed.

    Investors have been taught to only invest in as sure a thing as possible for speedy and huge profits. Most of our heavy industries would never have gotten off the ground if this thinking would’ve been in fashion 120 years ago

    Go Elon, Go.

  55. Or the Chinese will hijack the technology and use it to cement themselves as a number one superpower while a handful of billionaires laugh and count their fake money. Lol.

  56. Blax

    “Lol, Elon Musk is in no manner an alpha ( as I understand it to be defined, which is close to the standard definition )”

    Please share your definitionon and the standard dedinition of what “is” Alpha.

  57. “These are the guys that get taken by chicks with game and gold diggers. ”

    How was Musk “taken” by Heard? Zero dollars changed hands.

    Depp left $7M in the till for her… The only 9ne he married despite a life long proclivity for engagement… 6 or so engaged?

    Who is more Alpha… Depp or Musk?

  58. Charlie’s confession…

    ““I have learned a great deal as a result of these events, and I hope others will too. All of us, including me, are coming to a newer and deeper recognition of the pain caused by conduct in the past, and have come to a profound new respect for women and their lives.””

    This kind of thing triggers disgust in women…

  59. “Go Elon, Go.”

    Is it funny that a large amount of investors cashed in on the popularity Bull? And the latecomers aren’t going to.

    I would love to see him succeed, he will have to pull it out like trump did the election.

  60. Chicks running girl/gold digger game don’t necessarily have to fleece you ( well, except the gold diggers that is ).

    You get taken when you fall for the game they run on you for you to invest more of yourself than they do.

    I can’t count how many times over my life when I’ve witnessed chicks discussing how they have a ” herb ” strung along and how he is all in ” love “. Shit, I heard that discussion for the thousandth time just a few weeks ago in my dining room amongst a group of 20 somethings.

    Sure, they like you enough to spend time with you, but the guy winds up taking things way too seriously and at that point, you may as well have ” Milton Bradley ” tatted on your forehead. You become an amusement and the clock is ticking on you. Lol. Throw you out, take you back. They’re running the show ultimately.

    Not alpha ever, not a good look for any man famous or not.

  61. “Milton Bradley ” tatted on your forehead. You become an amusement and the clock is ticking on you. Lol. Throw you out, take you back. They’re running the show ultimately.”

    LOL she already stacked the deck and loaded the dice, before extending the invite to play.

  62. Sentient

    I’m not gonna list out the qualities that make up ” alpha ” because they’d have to be explained and I’ll inevitably leave out a bunch of stuff. We know what beta is, alpha is the opposite.

    The most important thing in this discussion is that chicks know it when they experience it, and they are basically powerless around it.

    It can be a positive or a negative depending. One thing is certain though, its rare and getting more so. Depp and Musk = beta all day long.

  63. Blax

    ” We know what beta is, alpha is the opposite.”

    Cop out?

    You phrased your comment with your definition and a standard definition. So you have something in mind beyond “not Beta”. So what is it?

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