The Creep – Part 2

Just so we’re clear here, yes, I get that there are a lot of ways to take the term ‘creepy’. In last week’s essay I wanted to dig into what women claim is ‘creepy’ and how this term is really another illustration of ambiguous fem-speak rooted in how a guy makes a woman feel. Furthermore, this feeling is modified by where that man is stationed in her perception of his sexual market value (SMV).

Last week I got linked a Tweet about ‘creeps’ by Roosh (he still hates me). He had a good point, and I paraphrase,

“Creeps are just guys that go from 0-100 in sexualizing a conversation with a woman way too fast. A good PUA knows that slow and steady sexualization works best.”

Take that how you want, but I think this is definitely part of the creep dynamic. There’s a bit more to being creepy than overly fast sexualization (or presumed familiarity); we’ve got to account for a Blue Pill / Beta guy’s lack of social intelligence to understand that taking it slow should be something he knows already. And still, how can we presume this slow and steady sexualization is a proficient form of seduction when we see more Alpha, more immediately arousing men, go from 0-100 themselves and get a same night lay? I’ve done this myself more than a few times back in a time when there was no formal Game to be had. Right guy, right place, right time, and 0-100 is what a woman is hoping will happen. Hypergamy is nothing if not pragmatic.

That said, I am convinced that this over-investment, too quick, too soon is definitely part of the creepy dynamic. I’ve made the call in several prior posts that it’s part of the Beta mindset to want to bypass the arousal and attraction phases of seduction to go directly to rapport. Thus, you get a guy who shares too much way too soon and this itself is creepy for women. It’s a huge telegraphing of that guy’s state of desperation and optionlessness. There’s no mystery left about the guy (assuming the girl even had an initial attraction) and nothing left to figure out. This over-sharing is also a huge red flag to women’s Hypergamous filters; it’s an indication that a guy ‘doesn’t get it’ with regard to how to play the Game with her.

You see, this rush to get to comfort and rapport is usually because that ‘creep’ is anxious to get past the arousal phase, the sexual tension, because he has no clue what to do in that phase. It’s a real source of anxiety for him, and besides, every woman he’s ever asked has said she needed to be comfortable with a guy before she has sex with him (false). Comfort, rapport, familiarity (all of which are anti-seductive) should be where the sex begins to his way of thinking, so again, male deductive logic would follow that getting there quickly would be pragmatic.

When a more Alpha, natural, moves quickly it’s almost always because he’s working with a receptive (proceptive) woman. As I mentioned before, arousal covers for a lot of men’s deficits in Game or feelings of creepery.

The Creeps

As most readers will have probably guessed I’ve timed the release of this series to address the current Hysteria of sexual assault / harassment / rape charges that are  moving like wildfire through Hollywood first, and now through the rest of our pop-culture social strata. While it may be satisfying to see mealy-mouth self-righteous actors and moguls take a fall, it’s important to see the larger social mechanics in play here.

I wrote that essay over a year ago and I’ll say now that I’d never dreamed how prophetic that post would turn out. Criticizing this #MeToo sexual assault hysteria is next to impossible. For the same reasons no one wanted to question the veracity of the UVA fraternity rape hoax that Rolling Stone and Sabrina Erdley perpetrated – no one now wants to question the accusations leveled at the various personalities being conveniently outed for sexual assault/harassment that in some cases occurred 30-40 years ago. We are expected to believe the testimonies of women without question.

This isn’t to say that the celebrities involved didn’t do what their accusers are saying they did, it’s that we are expected to accept that this behavior is endemic in all men, and based on the same principle of believing whatever a woman has to say about it with no afterthought given to its truth or her motives. It’s one thing to presume that whenever a woman comes forward with a rape or assault claim we are expected to presume the man guilty until proven innocent, but we’re rapidly reaching a point where any claim a woman has about a man bears that same weight. When it comes down to ‘he said, she said’, what she said will hold the full weight of the law.

Our Feminine-primary social order is now repurposing this ironclad believability of women – and presumed guilt of men – for every crime a woman ‘feels’ she’s been a victim of at the hands of a man. At the same time we see sexual harassment being defined as something that even a wink from a man can convey, we also see the rapid criminalization of men  who would dare to talk to a woman they don’t already know.

When we combine this overarching presumption of male guilt with the potential crime of men dealing with a woman with the intent of establish intimacy, and then add to it the ever changing definition of what can constitute sexual assault or harassment (and with a uniquely endless statute of limitations), we begin to get a clearer picture of the direction the Feminine Imperative has for men.

I’m sure this all seems very reactionary, but so was the questioning of Sabrina Erdley’s story about a nameless girl who was violently raped on the shattered glass of a broken coffee table by fraternity boys. Once again, I’m not saying sexual assault doesn’t happen, I’m saying that the direction gynocentrism is taking is one in which men ought to lose rights and liberties that only women ought to be the judges of.

Creepiness is a feeling women get from men who lack the social skills to ‘just get it’ that they are or aren’t into them. What this distills down to on a root level is women’s presuming that men should know better than to approach them when they are beneath their Hypergamous attraction floor. It is the criminalization of men not understanding how they fit into women’s sexual strategies. I made a case for this in The Political is Personal. The more men resist the social intents of Hypergamy, the more it will become necessary to legislate men to comply with it.

Feminine-primary social doctrine is an extension of  women’s Hypergamy.

Any deviation from this is on the part of  men is met with a cultural reprisal designed to convince or coerce men to accept their inevitable role in providing those entitlements to women. When those social contingencies fail, or become played out, the Feminine Imperative then appeals to legal legislation to mandate men’s compliance to what amounts to women’s social entitlement to optimized Hypergamy.

We’re rapidly reaching this peak Hypergamous state. As I mentioned in Male Control, since the Las Vegas shooting the narrative of masculinity has shifted. There is no more “toxic” masculinity – it’s masculinity on-whole that is toxic. As Open Hypergamy becomes more institutionalized and made a societal norm by the Feminine Imperative, and as more men become Red Pill aware (by effort or consequences) because of it, the more necessary it will become for a feminine-primary social order to legislate and mandate men comply with it.

In the Zone

Morpheus had a great comment last week that hit on what I went into in Sexual Zoning:

The term “creep” can really lead in a bunch of different directions discussion wise, but I think a really big one is “sexual zones” vs “non-sexual zones”. Increasingly, there are all sorts of places where the default presumption is that women should be “free from” male advances. Work, school, etc. In these zones, the margin for error is very small. Unless you are an objectively visually attractive man with super tight game, the odds of you being perceived as a “creep” are much, much higher. In sexual zones, such as the Friday night bar, your margin for error is higher. The default presumption is men are there to meet women. You still need to have the right social vibe and not come across as a weirdo but you have a little more room to play with.

And from that post:

I would argue that a large majority of men accused of sexual harassment or even just suspected of impropriety are men who’ve found themselves in an environment they believed was an acceptable sexual zone. We are fast approaching a time when all zones will be so arbitrary and ambiguous that every environment with sexual potential will be avoided. This will have the effect of putting women into unilateral control of their own Hypergamy. It will be a state of Sadie Hawkins world – only women will make approaches on men and only those who match her Hypergamous ideal, an ideal fostered and reinforced by a steady diet of social media ego inflation.

A while ago I read this piece about Mike Pence:

“In 2002, Mike Pence told The Hill that he never eats alone with a woman other than his wife and that he won’t attend events featuring alcohol without her by his side, either.”

Naturally the media wants to pass this off as some masculine insecurity on Pence’s part. Certainly there’s a religious reason for Pence not wanting to present any perception of impropriety – I’ve know pastor who will never have closed door meetings with women or do counseling for women without their wives present – but there is a practical side to this habit. It prevents the accusations and opportunity for anything like what we’re seeing in the accusation cycling through Hollywood today. But still, shaming the masculine is the first reflex for the mainstream media.

This Atlantic article is an exercise in deliberately not seeing the intersexual writing on the wall. This is the practical contingency for a social order bent on removing men via accusations of sexual misconduct. Yet still, for all of the inherent dangers of a frivolous sexual harassment suit at the disposal of any and every western woman, men are supposed to leave themselves vulnerable to them:

Pence is not the only powerful man in Washington who goes to great lengths to avoid the appearance of impropriety with the opposite sex. An anonymous survey of female Capitol Hill staffers conducted by National Journal in 2015 found that “several female aides reported that they have been barred from staffing their male bosses at evening events, driving alone with their congressman or senator, or even sitting down one-on-one in his office for fear that others would get the wrong impression.” One told the reporter Sarah Mimms that in 12 years working for her previous boss, he “never took a closed door meeting with me. … This made sensitive and strategic discussions extremely difficult.”

This is the social environment feminism and our gynocentric social order has chosen to establish for men and women. Men pragmatically look for ways to guard themselves against allegation, and yet are shamed for that sensibility. It’s gotten (or will get) to the point where old books “decent” behavior is too risky to engage in in the modern workplace. Powerful men must hide behind open doors, and still those men are shamed for being prudent. Why?

We live in a new era where marriage has become disincentivized for men by the risks of capital loss in divorce that overwhelmingly favors women with cash & prizes. Now add to this the increasing ego entitlements of women to high value men. As the prospect of marriage looks less and less like a good deal for men wanting to protect themselves there comes a need for women to create ways to bypass the requirement for marriage to access men’s capital. Enter the era of increasingly more nebulous, acrimonious, accusations of sexual harassment or assault and de facto believability of women’s testimony. Exit the era of frivolous divorce (okay maybe not entirely) and enter the era of more easily accessible capital via frivolous sexual assault lawsuits.

More to come in part 3.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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…away from all media.

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What is astonishing is that “the conga line of guys getting pilloried” are not standing up for themselves. Most of these men are owing up to these allegations and putting out beta cuck statements like “I didn’t know what I was doing was incorrect …. Now I have better understating and respect for women”. The whole saga of #metooing seems scripted and all these men appear to be taking the fall at the command of a higher power, so that they can socially engineer and emasculate all men.

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At least Trump seems to be trying khe is the only one seemingly trying) to defend the Alabama judge guy (I forget if he is a governor or senator aspirant). That guy slayed pussy like a motherfucker in his thirtiez. All those hens can’t believe he is going to be boss, and they never could lock him down. Sour grapes. Lol

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If it’s a successful stratagy, why the decades repeated attempts to kill men’s spirits? Why isn’t it preprogrammed in men’s heart’s?

It’s not working as every generation of men, resistant men must be broken for egalitarian equality to work. That’s a lot of applied resources, and in the trenches we are a tachyphylaxis of FI efficacy. We’re creating and the decrement isn’t foreseeable at least in my life. That’s why we have kids to fight on.

I admit innocent men, good men are ruined. That’s unjust and the anger I read and harbor too is righteous.

It will end though.

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“That’s a lot of applied resources, and in the trenches we experience tachyphylaxis of FI efficacy. We’re cresting and the decrement isn’t foreseeable at least in my life.”

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More about the conga line of men getting pilloried: we now see a resurgence of the Soviet-style concept that a confessed offender is an enemy of the state who should be punished over and over again. See this most recent illustrative story on a Princeton professor who did get sanctioned for a grope, but now there’s a move to get the school to reopen his case to slap him down again, try for a further suspension or firing, fuck procedure. The victim is claiming she can’t go to class in the same building as him because she sees him when… Read more »

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Incubus “I didn’t know what I was doing was incorrect …. Now I have better understating and respect for women”. The whole saga of #metooing seems scripted and all these men appear to be taking the fall at the command of a higher power, so that they can socially engineer and emasculate all men.” Blax “You want to know why the FI is so successful? Keep watching the conga line of guys getting pilloried over past harassment and ‘ assault ‘ and then notice the absence of men even publically attempting to support and defend even ONE of the accused.… Read more »

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” . . . the cure is he must disappear.”

Enter the windowless van, stage left.

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Disappear. Good word.

Its policy in China.

https://www.voanews.com/a/china-enforced-disappearances/4005098.html

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It may be the first sunny day of Spring…

https://youtu.be/RRJ1EPuYkZQ

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You have probably seen this already,the GSA is in the fray.

http://fox8.com/2017/11/20/girl-scouts-to-parents-ahead-of-holidays-daughters-dont-owe-anyone-a-hug/

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Burden

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Performance

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The Swimmer (1969) is a great RP movie… Guy goes from Alpha to Beta.

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@Bromeo

If you are frequently being interrupted, it probably means you’re talking too much. If you follow Rule #4 of the Laws of Power, Always Say Less Than Necessary, when you talk, people generally shut up and listen to you.

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Happy Thanksgiving.

I’m thankful for making it back here, the TRM crew, knowing my marriage and children are never healthier.

I’ve been given a gift.

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notice the absence of men even publically attempting to support and defend even ONE of the accused.

Donald Trump, Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler, Keith Morrissey…

…there was also a group of pastors that issued a statement defending Moore.

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I saw this link where comments indicate false sexual assault allegations.

https://academicmatters.ca/2011/10/false-allegations-of-sexual-harassment-misunderstandings-and-realities/

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This shit is given teeth by males. Sure, but that’s perfectly normal — it has always been so. Queen whispers in King’s ear, King makes a motion to servant, and some underling who has fallen into the Queen’s disfavor is beheaded. Woman have always exercised their power indirectly by influencing/manipulating men who are in a position to exercise power on their behalf. Both are a part of the problem. As for the rest of the guys who are melting in to the background — well, of course. Men don’t cooperate to take on women as a group — that’s a… Read more »

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Dread game works:

“He Loves Me, He Loves Me Not . . . ”
Uncertainty Can Increase Romantic Attraction

“Results for the uncertain condition, however, were consistent with research on the pleasures of uncertainty. Participants in the uncertain condition were most attracted to the men—even more attracted than were participants who were told that the men liked them a lot. Uncertain participants reported thinking about the men the most, and this increased their attraction toward the men.”

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797610393745

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Blax

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/note-defending-moore-trump-misses-metoo-moment/story?id=51319910

Trump “misses” his #metoo moment…

Thereby securing reelection. It’s masculine males and normie females against marxist pussy hatters and fey boiz.

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At a local level, HR level policies are written nebulous as is, at any given time a guy is indictable and there’s no statute of limitations with the outraged crowd. Itll sit it your HR dolder untill needed. Soiling a man’s rep is good enough to banish him.

Extra layers of statute serve only the feels.

Oh word on the queen having the kings ear. Firings officially come from the boss but the unnamed female HR staff, loosly titled female house compliance attorneys make the case against him. At will employment arrangements make it easy to send him packing.

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Sentient https://twitter.com/SamuelLJackson/status/931574689654300673 Novaseeker “As for the rest of the guys who are melting in to the background — well, of course. Men don’t cooperate to take on women as a group — that’s a feminist conspiracy theory. The reality is that men generally turn on each other when there is a confrontation with women as a group, and tear each other apart in front of the women — and that’s exactly what we are seeing here. http://www.psysr.org/about/pubs_resources/groupthink%20overview.htm As to why these guys generally aren’t defending themselves (Moore is defiant, and he’s an exception here) is that there is really no… Read more »

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Charlie Rose getting his comeuppance, couldn’t happen to a more deserving self-anointed, pseudo-intellectual posing Progressive hack. He was always stood up as this unalloyed intellectual, cruising above us all whether it was the arts or politics or whoever. Yet whenever he veered into a topic I know well, it was clear he mostly emitted puke-cuck-leftie agitprop. http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/charlie-rose-intern-made-watch-sex-scene-article-1.3650882 Note what he did to Miss Gordon. First off – she has to come to his home to deliver his mail. I’ve worked in many corporate settings, this kind of crap doesn’t go on. Dropping by the bosses house, etc. So first of… Read more »

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In the dating game women are ruthless with short men (guys below 6 ft), but the FI now wants us to accept midget women as sexy!!!

http://metro.co.uk/2017/11/08/meet-the-3ft-4-in-model-proving-that-you-can-be-sexy-at-any-size-7062745/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ba7OEHahs7V/?taken-by=g0lden.bebe

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Headlining Friday’s national Day of Contrition (adding male is redundant of course)… The one and only OG… “Humanity is going through a powerful and wrenching shift of consciousness that I believe will ultimately lead to a mass awakening in all humankind. Like all lasting change, this transition is filled with painful disruption and confrontation against an entrenched system. It may sound odd to some that I am encouraged about this time in our history, but I am. The daily news detailing the growing number of experiences of women being victimized are being brought to the light. I do not doubt… Read more »

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Fuck Russell Simmons.

Twice.

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Russell Simmons, founder of Def Jam and Phat Farm is now a yogi? BWAH-HAH-HAH! Gotta admire a smooth player who doesn’t fight the FI’s waves, but this is still LOLs. Is he really, really a vegan? Really? @Sentient – Joe Barton, LOL, could we call this revenge porn? Or does that only apply to girls? Any one wondering why Congress does some stupid stuff, think about Joe Barton: separated from his second wife, hooking up with some FWB, decides to sext his Dad-bod to her. The FI mob will continue to march until something is done about something or other!… Read more »

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Oh gawd…. nooooo…

Somebody said something about liberals earlier.

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Have to say… Pretty creepy.

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Karen / Daughter of Babalon
November 22, 2017 at 12:08 pm

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November 22, 2017 at 8:33 pm

Return of the chatbot / girl troll.

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Return of the chatbot / girl troll.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Tell Me “Anonymous”; what did I write that is Not True?

I live in Retard Nation on Douchebag Planet…

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@Sentient – give us a break. One pic of doofus Barton is more than enough!

Reposting this link from October re the other side of the “creep” divide.
Notice where work trips fit in.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/health/why-women-cheat-partner/index.html

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But of course, no woman can “make shit of” me. Now, that is. @All – I’ve reconciled with my daughter, guys. The event 5 year ago that brought me to the red pill has come full circle. And all she said was “I’m not the same person I was 5 years ago”. Since I don’t seek validation from her now, and have her in her proper perspective – “she’s just a girl” – I’m good. Just wanted my daughter back in my life. And she’s pregnant, I’m gonna be grandfather in late March (girl). Fuck yeah. And it doesn’t hurt… Read more »

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Congrats scribs you sound happy, hope it holds.

@rollo you might enjoy this article on what we would all call the FI codified

http://quillette.com/2017/11/20/sex-looking-glass/

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Scrib,

Does your woman dye her hair?

I get the AWALT insecurity but can’t ask this question directly to pretty women (creepy) nor would get a legit answer anyways.

Happy Thanksgiving.

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scrib “So interesting to live a red pill life, to embrace my masculinity. Even “love” doesn’t own me anymore. I own it.” Went out last evening and did some yoga with a girl a meet at a concert. Took her out for some pizza than took a class with her. Didn’t stay for her class. When i got back i got a few text messages about her not wanting to have anything to do with me. Woke up this morning and noticed how it would have affected me in the past. Now it weird, it’s rubbing off no more of… Read more »

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Solid! 🏉

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Congrats on your daughter and coming granddaughter.

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Joe Barton… What a pathetic beta.

Tgis is how you invite contempt and disgust.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/congressman-told-woman-he-would-report-her-to-capitol-police-if-she-exposed-his-secret-sex-life/2017/11/22/e3345862-cf10-11e7-a1a3-0d1e45a6de3d_story.html?utm_term=.f8d0223aa38e

Fucking cuck… So what he had sex with a “mature” woman… BFG. A quarter of congress are queers and two thirds are banging anything they can.

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Your arrogance knows no bounds, what would be rough is your boss getting the red pill overnight, he would can your disrespectful ass in a heart beat. Fortunately for you he is in touch with his “negative animus”.

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Rugby,

“I have an appreciation for life that is beyond where i ever was at any point in my story so far in my existence.”

Inspiring testimony. Congratulations.

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@scribblerg Good on ya with the daughter coming around, pregnant and all. Life can be interesting. One thing to consider is, a man with influence, social proof, power and money, in todays hypergamous social order, gets ioi’s on a constant basis. Internalizing his own market value comes naturally. This in his mind makes the rest of the game seem unnecessary, now is at risk of making the big intersexual fopaux. He starts believing he now has a pass on game. I would like to hear Wienstiens story of the 70s, being a concert promoter he proly got laid like tile.… Read more »

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OK Rugby. In the immortal words of Thin Lizzy – “if that chick don’t wanna know forget her”.

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I hope Rollo has Creep III ready to roll by Sunday or so, or it could be a loooonnng weekend
[Coming up tomorrow, got Thanksgiving things to do]

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“I am such a Good Thinker. I do not understand why it is taking so long for Absolute Power to be placed in My Hands.”

then you mustn’t be the Good Thinker you think you are, think about it…. dumbass lol

but really, it’s a tough lesson even for a man, especially tough for a woman to learn since it requires her to be unnatural, and that’s just creepy

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Rugby,

Just finished walkies with Mrs. Thinking of your comment triggered this song in my head throughout.

Letting go is cathartic.

“I’ve thrown away the blues, I’m tired of bein’ used.
I want everyone to know I’m lookin’ for a good time, good time, yeah.”

https://youtu.be/zg-ivWxy5KE

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the pattern of responses indicates another b o _ t…. just seconding what others have already mentioned

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Ehintellect Purple haze Jimmy hendrix I don’t listen to music with phone’s so sometimes i travel to a record shop and sit down and Jam to the sound’s of the gods… Those times are how i recover… The vibration’s… lunching forward in respecting the process… Sentient How you fail… How you fail over again… Embracing the strugle… putting death back in it’s own place… Opening yourself to birth or just pleasure… learning to lead yourself and listen to where you are Now… As well as where you are going… Accepting the challenge of fashion and fitness… learning about life as… Read more »

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Here they come for the Alphas ….

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/former-manchester-city-star-robinho-sentenced-2013-gang-rape-172503018.html

Better get my popcorn in the oven.

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Yep, not even Stallone could escape this mess

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5081605/Sylvester-Stallone-accused-forcing-teen-threesome.html

or the guy from backstreet boys that all young women wanted to fuck a decade ago

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/nov/22/nick-carter-backstreet-boys-accused-rape-melissa-schuman

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@scribblerg: Shed a manly tear reading about the reconciling with your daughter. You probably don’t want or need sympathy from strangers on the net but I could never help feeling a pang of sympathy whenever you wrote about your daughter. I guess we REALLY are the True Romantics. Great on you man!! @#metoo My predictions. The Good: Men are waking up. To read the comments under articles about this left and right is uplifting as fuck. Even in the shittiest little corners of the western world men are becoming red pilled by force. My theory is you can blue-pill-bullshit yourself… Read more »

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Burden meets solipsism. Care to guess the sex of “No Subject”?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BbiVP3bnTn0/?hl=en

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Trent Lane
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6303866/videogallery?ref_=tt_pv_vi_sm
” There WILL be a major shift in red pill awareness and in social narratives. It’s already happening.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xLAIs-l-r0
“Prostitution will bloom, workplace situations will get more then uncomfortable, even more young men will check out of the SMV now then before. Insane female BPD nutcases have huge leverage to power right now and will use this. A lot more shit will be dug out from the past, some rigthly, a lot not.”
https://twitter.com/HarrisDickinson/status/932643931153752064

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Good points Trent.

However, we have no evidence that Stallone was alpha or even had an ounce of game. For most male celebrities, ‘ fame ‘ is their ‘ game ‘.

I still think that true alphas with game won’t really get caught up in the current madness. I also think that a vast majority of those guys are ‘ unknowns ‘ – like the truly wealthy power players that influence how nations are run. Lol, they won’t get caught up either now that I think of it.

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Enjoy your life’s everyone…
Build the one you want it to be…
https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/

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“I still think that true alphas with game won’t really get caught up in the current madness. I also think that a vast majority of those guys are ‘ unknowns ‘ – like the truly wealthy power players that influence how nations are run. Lol, they won’t get caught up either now that I think of it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare-network/2017/may/10/support-seek-help-male-suicide-calm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/01/zero-suicide-the-bold-new-fight-to-eradicate-suicide

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RSD Jeffy on the metoo movement and the latest development. TL:DR: Only actual rapists and sexual harassers need to worry. Most others will be fine as long as you’re not actually physically forcing women to do stuff or hitting on women who work for you etc. Pickup itself won’t change because it teaches you calibration and reading reactions (and it’s interesting how despite all the controversy about someone like Julien – no woman has actually come forward to accuse him of an actual assault – because he knows calibration) and if anything the increased focus this compromise will bring on… Read more »

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I wonder if you ever thought you’d make it get so good. Good on you man.

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Some of those men being accused are alphas. I think most women who have tried to dig up shit that went down eons ago are trying to address some butt hurt. Whether the guys are beta or alpha, these women are simply angry that these men are successful, and they are not part of it. They thought they would bang their way into a successful man’s life. it didnt work. Now they want to fuck up their success out of spite. @scrib You are the unmovable rock for your daughter, the one she has depended on for provision for most… Read more »

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“And right now, you see zero males in any numbers mounting any push back whatsoever, and every male you do see is in full agreement that there’s a massive problem with ” men “.”

I’ve actually seen one…Morrissey…and as expected it’s not going over too well lol:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/20/morrissey-defends-harvey-weinstein-and-kevin-spacey-blames-victims.html

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All this #metooing has wider implications than we think. Every man will have to pay for the sins of the “Wienstiens”, that is what they are aiming for.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/south-african-appeals-court-more-than-doubles-pistorius-sentence/ar-BBFzgJG?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=DELLDHP

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Don’t confuse motion and noise for progress. What’s really happening with #Metoo is the left turning on itself. What’s most silly here and elsewhere in the Red Pill community is the notion that all of this is bunk or manufactured or simply regret. I won’t reprise it all here, as I laid it out clearly in my previous comments but if you don’t understand why a Louis CK or Weinstein or a Franken is drawn to sexually harassing women, you probably don’t really understand the Red Pill or ‘Game” as well as you think. This is what happens when beta… Read more »

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@ lendhispeaks Good day sir. When I speak about men pushing back, I’m talking about guys stopping this giant public mea culpa on behalf of men everywhere. The FI is trying to frame this is certain ways ( toxic masculinity ) so that all men everywhere can become guilty or at the very least, suspects that will require more stringent legislation, and right on cue males are just lining up in agreement… Until they too get snagged somehow. That needs to stop. My idea of ‘ push back ‘ isn’t about attacking anyone. Lashing out is a feminine quality that… Read more »

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PS,

To think that in the bigger picture this is only about a particular handful of dudes is missing the larger consequences that will target all men. Listen to the underlying narrative that’s out there now.

That’s why I keep getting asked ” what about the murder rate in Chicago ” consistently. Lol.

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There are a lot of angles to this and commenters here defending the indicted and others pointing out the lack of RP/PUA as the root cause aren’t disagreeing.

There is a problem of socially weaponized sex, institutional biases against men, women’s claims being prima facie legit, men’s lack of game. It goes on and on.

RP is the only way to keep one’s sanity and pride. Worth the cost.

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@ Blaxamus

Do you think the average boyfriend/single guy/husband is flogging himself in front of women?

We know there’s no crisis of toxic masculinity. I only hear about it on TV. It’s inflated. The average woman doesn’t care about it either and desperately is looking for more Alpha in their life.

Thank you.

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Bill Clinton was removed from office for sexual misconduct and lying. Men like Bill Clinton are not meant to fall from grace, the system ensures that. But still he was outed and made an example of. Why? Because of something big that was planned to happen after he left for which they wanted full loyalty of the Politicians, Media, Hollywood and Sportstars. The event did happen and the world is not the same anymore. We are seeing the same happening now. Big names falling from grace (and surprisingly not fighting back). This is a warning to the rest in the… Read more »

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Ummmm…. Clinton was not removed from office.

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@ Blaximus Good day sir as well. Fully agreed with the “When I speak about men pushing back, I’m talking about guys stopping this giant public mea culpa on behalf of men everywhere.” I’m not a fan of Morrissey but I alluded to him as the ONE example of a man publicly standing up for men in this absurd witch hunt that has been fueled by the mainstream liberal progressive media. If someone can come up with other men it will be the first I’m hearing of it. It’s funny how this all ties back to Rollo’s ‘The Creep –… Read more »

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My bad, he wasn’t removed, none of the congressional hearings found him to be guilty. He was just made an example of, that even a President is not immune.

Anyways, Alphas are gonna Alpha no matter what. Sure the stakes are high and the risks even higher now, which makes the game all the more appealing for an Alpha.

It is the Betas who will be most impacted with the #metoo fuckery. MGTOW is gonna grow.

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Lewinsky was down with it, still is. She doesn’t have regrets nor is persuing damages.

That’s a big difference, IMO.

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Bill Clinton was removed from office for sexual misconduct and lying.

Which parallel universe are you commenting from? Or have you been into the drugs again?

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My bad, he wasn’t removed, none of the congressional hearings found him to be guilty. He was just made an example of, that even a President is not immune.

Ok, so drugs then. In the current year of 2017 the Lewinsky stuff from 20 years ago is “meh”.

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Blaximus To think that in the bigger picture this is only about a particular handful of dudes is missing the larger consequences that will target all men. Listen to the underlying narrative that’s out there now. Some of it is just payback for past slights – women who gave it up for what they thought were Alpha men who turned out to be Beta. Some of it is the herd instinct of girls – they are all girls – as in the Salem witch trials. Some of it might just be the younger generation taking out the older – Charlie… Read more »

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The charge was purjury for saying he didn’t have sex with Lewinski. Remember the whole “Depends on what your definition of is, is.

Clinton claimed as he was not AT THE TIME fucking her the question was honestly answered…and he defined a bj not as sex.

He survived the storm pretty well.

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The MSM did run cover for him but he survived because he is Alpha and he didn’t go wobbly….and there wasn’t anyone underneath him to sacrifice for his sins. They circled the political wagons, it was existential.

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No, not into drugs. But down a few pints of Fosters, it is 8 PM in the UK. Thanks for the history lesson. I have some catching up to do. Started reading Politics and history 2 years ago and am currently up to President Carter. Still need to catch up with the Bush Senior term and the Clinton term. All I remember from the Clinton scandal was that he got fucked. And what came after was a not pretty. Junior and Obummer screwed us real good. Two sides of the same coin. “He survived the storm pretty well” … sadly… Read more »

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. All I remember from the Clinton scandal was that he got fucked

That’s not what Monica was doing under the desk to earn her Presidential kneepads.
Notice that she’s still not only single, but without any kind of “boyfriend”? Classic Alpha widow.

That’s really all there is to say. Well, Drudge got his first burst of fame by being right about the blue dress when the entire MSM was wrong. Otherwise it’s just 90’s history.

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Find the Alpha:

Rose: “Watch this movie, young lady.”

Clinton re: Jaunita Broaddrick’s lip: “You’d better get some ice for that.”

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No more “toxic masculinity” talk because all masculinity is toxic. That’s likely the underlying narrative Blaximus mentions. How ironic that at a time when more and more young men are ground down by the K – 12 system into something close to eunuchs, we are hearing all this ruckus about how toxic “masculinity” is. This is the part that needs to be pushed back against. @AR — What they are saying is basically this, I think. The reason boys are failing is because they are suffering from a definition/expectation of masculinity that is completely toxic. The claim is that if… Read more »

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To think that in the bigger picture this is only about a particular handful of dudes is missing the larger consequences that will target all men. Listen to the underlying narrative that’s out there now. Blax — Yes, but this is now inevitable. The momentum is too strong and men as a group, taken together, are too weak and manipulable. The game is over in that sense. However, the impact will still be differential as between men. Men who are adaptable and have tight Game will be impacted in that we will need to more quickly, subtly and effectively calibrate… Read more »

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“Those of us who are aware will be fine”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbxtVX-fZwg
“Men who are adaptable and have tight Game will be impacted in that we will need to more quickly, subtly and effectively calibrate and recalibrate in real time in order to adapt to the emerging order. If we do that, we will be more or less fine. ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAWZSSGjIvw

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Women of beauty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yYqiqN7xQc “The reason boys are failing is because they are suffering from a definition/expectation of masculinity that is completely toxic. The claim is that if the meaning of masculinity is replaced with something that is much closer to the feminist definition of what it means to be feminine, boys will be fine, and will succeed like girls are succeeding in K-12, and relationships will blossom and be recast all along feminist lines, and we can all live in a truly equalist paradise.” “The momentum is too strong and men as a group, taken together, are too weak… Read more »

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This is reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu4mgFq7OG0

Robbed of youth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etNNWp0aW-Y

King has killed his heart…

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The correct way to protect your capital is via something like the universal plan for wealth, ie extracting everything you can out of the empire, now. As long as they can confiscate it, they will, because they “have to” — women are entirely a pretext in this game. The Soviet Union confiscated it “for the war effort” or “for the children” or for “justice” or whatever the fuck, but in reality because socialism is untenable in practice ; the United States are no different.

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