The Tyranny of Biomechanics

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Well, dammit, I had a very insightful article warming up in my drafts folder about Open Cuckoldry (it’s still coming, promise), but I felt compelled to riff on the new Pirelli Tyre calendar photoshoot first. The calendar art is replete with a semi-nude Amy Schumer sipping a pumpkin-spice latte, “tastefully” rendered in greyscale (the calling card of an ‘artiste’ as a opposed to just a ‘photographer’) and the doughy eyed stare of a comedienne who grasps the ludicrous seriousness of how her image will be received and delivered by a feminine-centric society.

I’ll be honest, I don’t much care for Schumer as a comedian or an actress, and if you read here with any regularity I’d expect you don’t either. She characterizes, with triumphantly unwarranted hubris, everything the Feminine Imperative would like generations of women to celebrate as a victory over the evil “Patriarchy” that, by design, is never entirely defeated. In a post-End of Men society, fat, goofy women will be the banner bearers the imperative will have dance on the symbolic corpse of the “Patriarchy” that will never die or be unuseful to it.

The irony here is that Amy’s naked girth is being lauded by the usual media suspects as “brave” and “stunning”. Calling a woman of this physique “stunning” is like telling the retarded kid he actually ran the football back for a real touchdown to win the big game. Perhaps Amy is self-aware enough to realize this, but her participation in her own humiliation tells the bigger story. The fact that she rationalizes her nudes as being “authentic” as opposed to ridiculous verifies this.

Now before I go much further here, I’ll remind readers that I’m entirely aware that this “groundbreaking” photoshoot of “real” women is little more than a publicity effort, nominally on Pirelli Tyres (are they a British brand?), but mostly for photographer Annie Leibovitz and her feminist triumphalisms (she also shot ‘Woman’ of the Year, Caitlyn Jenner).

Since the inception of this blog I’ve always gotten props for the pictures I select as my lead-ins to what I’m writing. This talent is really the result of my having worked in advertising and brand development for years, and having to be the de facto photographer and photo editor for more than 20 years. Trust me, I get the language of imagery, and it’s not difficult to see the train that Leibovitz is riding here.

At the launch of the calendar on Monday, Leibovitz explained that none of these photographs had been conceived with the male gaze in mind. Williams’s photo was “not a nude but a body study”, she said, while Schumer’s was a comic conceit: “The idea was that she was the only one who had not got the memo about wearing clothes.”

The ‘Male Gaze” card is disingenuous when the stated intent of the shoot is an,…

…arty soft-core ode to pinups produced by the Italian tire manufacturer,…

The Bigger Narrative

There’s a much larger story being sold here than a fat comedienne’s rationalizing her nude form as championing “authenticity” or “realness”. What we’re observing, yet again, is the frustration of women being able to optimize their inherent Hypergamy against what our evolved biology dictates for them.

I’ve written extensively on the conflict between an idealized Equalism and human beings’ evolved predilection for Complementarity. Whenever there is a new ‘outrage’ over “body shaming” or “fat shaming”, with a Red Pill lens we can see what this conflict represents: The frustration women experience, and the anxiety of insecurity they feel when presented with the prospect of not being able to optimize their Hypergamous impulses because simple biology selects them out based on their physicality.

No doubt Leibovitz believes in her rationalization that she’s shooting artful nudes without the mythical ‘male gaze’ in mind, but she knows on a visceral level the form of every nude woman in art throughout history has been rendered with the intent of replicating a beauty that inspires arousal (thus the ode to the pin-up). The simple hard-coded fact of nature is that the form of a semi-nude woman, by order of degree, stimulates the area of the male brain associated with tool use and thereby objectification. On a limbic level, sex with beautiful, arousing women is literally a problem to be solved by the male brain.

Leibovitz gets this. In fact she banks money on instigating the deliberate contradiction that human biology poses to her own (and a larger society’s) ego-investments in blank-slate Equalism. The root of this prefabricated indignation rests in women’s existential doubt of optimizing Hypergamy. That doubt conflicts with the uncertainty of establishing a social order that will force men to act and be influenced by idealized Equalism rather than their evolved biology.

In other words, the latent purpose of this social order is to force men to comply with women’s sexual strategy, irrespective of their evolved sexual arousal cues.

The ostensible want for an ideal Equalism, or a dubious gender parity, is really the cover story for the want of 100% consolidated control over their ability to optimize Hypergamy by literally controlling the sexual selection choices men are able to make for themselves.

Schumer apparently earns the label of “real” because a few rolls around her midsection are on display – because her body is less than perfect by pop culture standards. Would she be any less “real” if she didn’t allow her body to be consumed in this way? Can’t all bodies count as “real”, no matter what they look like and who lives in them and whether or not they choose to show themselves – clothed or naked?

I find it interesting that an out of shape Vin Diesel is ridiculed for his present physique, or that ‘Dad Bods’ are sardonically described as ‘sexy’ while the over-the-shoulder giggles ensue, but what I don’t expect is for these men to be held as a physical ideal in women’s estimate. There are no photographers, male or female, shooting artful nudes of overweight men, normal “real” men of professional accomplishment, or middle linemen for exclusive calendars. Firemen with rippling abs sell very well, but “real” men? Not so much.

However the difference is that men don’t expect women’s choices of what physically arouses them to shift in favor of their physiques based on expected societal shifts. In fact, we don’t even expect women not to laugh at a naked Seth Rogan or Jonah Hill. The automatic impression is to laugh at them because they don’t come close to women’s physical ideal, so the presumption of intent must be humor. Yet we are expected to perceive a naked Amy Schumer as “real’, “authentic”, “brave” and “stunning”, and to do so with genuflection, devoid of laughter and ridicule.

The uncomfortable truth is that women have far higher, far more static and far more stringent physical ideals for men than men will ever have for women when it comes to basic visceral arousal cues. Yes, I understand there are more variables to attraction than just the physical, but we are talking about representing physical ideals in photos and calendars here. Firemen and Sports Illustrated swimsuit models are the standard order for a reason – evolved, practical, efficient biomechanics that have made us what we are today, not pop-culture stereotypes.

T-Rex Wants to Hunt

T-rex doesn’t want to be fed; he wants to hunt. You can’t just suppress sixty-five million years of gut instinct. – Dr. Grant, Jurassic Park

Sexuality, families, and men did not come about because of society. To the contrary, sexuality, families, and men are what made society possible in the first place. – Pook

These are some excellent examples of the conflict I’ve described above here. The Equalism of Annie Leibovitz – the dubious societal idealism that hopes these fundamental, biological underpinnings can be overridden by a self-defined higher order cognitivism – will always lock horns with the T-Rex that represents human biology. Annie and the rest of the prophetesses of gender equality are only, symbolically, trying to feed the T-Rex of evolved gender dynamics in the hopes he’ll stay in the paddock, behave himself and only occasionally put on a good show for the customers.

However, even in the hopes of that a contrived, idealized gender Equalism will ever pull the teeth of the T-Rex, the same evolved need women have for Hypergamous certainty informs the concept of what that ideal “equality” should look like. The T-Rex is women too.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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@scribblerg

Did somebody say ludes?

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“Amy Schumer’s entire shtick is a sendup parody satire of the typical American slut on either coast: trashy, crass, vulgar, profane, obnoxious, shamelessly promiscuous, ill-mannered, selfish, self-absorbed, and masculine. If you want to see what a post-wall carouseler looks like after a decade or so and around 10 feet or so of cock, Schumer epitomizes it. She is literally and figuratively the very personification of the post-wall carouseler (or is doing a really, REALLY good job of portraying her). ” I think Amy Schumer is funny. I think she’s actually a great comedian. And she is not some straight-up feminist.… Read more »

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@Stuttie – It’s an aesthetic thing, and you and I just have different tastes. He comes of like gibbering moron to me, and barely funny – I think the Valentines bit is idiotic. No insult intended to you, I like stupid shit such as Archer – many people think I’m nuts for that. It may be an age thing, how old are you? I don’t mean that condescendingly, fyi, just it may be that a certain aesthetic works better for younger guys or something. I also have weird taste in movies, so it may just be me. But he’s exactly… Read more »

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Porn Deen

One of the best porn movies ever made was The Fashionistas (2002), directed by John Buttman Stagliano. It had a $500K budget (huge for a porn movie) and starred Rocco Siffredi, using his gonzo style. Here is a woman academically discussing this:

https://books.google.ca/books?id=uQ97YT9nAjoC&pg=PA187&lpg=PA187&dq=Rocco+Siffredi+gonzo&source=bl&ots=ydTaPkksPI&sig=Vv2Zt4I-zjbJ9u3ZJt1KvnNcN_M&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwimy7aJ7r7JAhXGbB4KHZmEB5M4ChDoAQhEMAg#v=onepage&q=Rocco%20Siffredi%20gonzo&f=false

Even though Rocco dominates, and does ATM much like one brushes one’s teeth:

Despite the rough sexual paces, says American director Veronica Hart, women enjoy working with Siffredi

Deen borrows from and extends the gonzo style

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@Blax – I was also a “natural” in term of dominant, aggressive sex. But just like with pickup and game, it meant that I had almost no ability to adapt or create the vibe for it. Sometimes it just felt right to get super aggressive and women loved it but whenever I tried to force it or make it happen, no dice. It was also not so overt, and not really talked about at all. I remember years ago, when I was like 36, overhearing two women in my office speaking about me when they didn’t realize I was in… Read more »

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far from any hostility…..us aussies can have different tastes in humor. Probably the same as I hate UK humor.

Massive fan of Raw & Delirious though.

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@scribblerg

I know you love us talking about your relationship with your daughter /s

So here goes.

Women love cool dudes. Women love resources. Women keep track of men (google, facebook, social media, gossip).

If you keep being a cool dude you are now, and you keep gaining resources, your daughter will reconnect with you. You can make this on your terms.

All you have to do is keep being a cool dude, post a few things on social media, and be successful. That is just keep doing what you are doing.

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@scribblerg – yeah I did too much stupid shit of all kinds myself. It’s best for me if I don’t explain too much. Anyway – booze not good for me either – can’t do it – hangovers for me are brutal. So I haven’t really abused that one much (just mostly in my youth). I had an on again off again thing with weed since I was 17 (except for about 15 years when my son came along) – last time I think I finally learned my lesson – turned into chronic – an oz every 4 days after going… Read more »

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@Redlight – I have no problem discussing my daughter, in fact when I first came around here I spent a lot of time sharing about what happened. Your recos are not appropriate to my circumstances though, and I’m not sure if they were meant as a joke. It’s surprising to me that so many men here don’t know what Parental Alienation is. It’s an epidemic for non-custodial Dads like me, particularly if the wife remarries. The very short story is that the mother/ex wife enforces the new husband as the father figure – even when you are still closely involved… Read more »

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So I rip you up – but I do it on the substance Yeah. Like Adolf Hitler was supposedly a Catholic dictator. Impressive. I’m totally awed and bloody. lolz So much you know just ain’t so. He doesn’t seem to get that he’s wrong about many things he says – this seems impossible for him to get. Just look at how he hung on to the parental alienation thing – when he’s never been divorced. Illiterati gonna illiterate. Meh. And now you are talking about fighting? lolz. nice try at flipping the script. You also ought to know better than… Read more »

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@ scribbler

What the shrink also explained is this. She’s never coming back. It’s like I’m no longer her Dad.

What the fuck do shrinks know about Game? Of course she doesn’t see you as her Dad, emotionally speaking. The step dad is who she sees as her dad. So you run Stepdad Destroyer Game on her.

Anyway, with time she may come to value your effort on her behalf.

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@Anonymous Reader

thanks so much for the reply its much appreciated.

Yes, ive read stuff on EFT and matrix reimpritning before, and yes indeed it has given me some success,

My question is really, to what exactly i should be visualizing to change my neural pathways to the one with the least likelihood of having sexual performance anxiety.

my current one is one of very emotional sex with the pressure to perform i think.

should i be rewiring it to be one where im totally dominant and the sex is for my pleasure totally?

THANKS

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Found this vasopressin/oxytocin antagonist to help counteract shyness/awkwardness related to seeing a broad’s face:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atosiban

Available as a nasal spray. Wonder if a shrink could prescribe it for social anxiety?

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Let me break down what this parental alienation gizmo is. It’s just Dad Destroyer Game. That’s all. So how do you counteract Dad Destroyer Game? Run Stepdad Destroyer Game and Mom Destroyer Game and build value and hold frame because shit tests are coming.

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Don’t underestimate the effectiveness of strength. I like to toss Mrs. Gamer into the air and catch her. She screams that I’m gonna break my back as she giggles. I carry her to the bed and throw her on it. She protests all the way, giggling. Of course I ignore her protests. I do this quite easily even with my injured left wrist. Mrs. Gamer about has an O before she even hits the bed or feels my cock. Old married man stuff follows. Older girls have brittle hair so you can’t pull their hair hard or it comes out.… Read more »

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“The funny thing is, all this is exactly what got me jazzed up when I was a lad . . .”

And that is why I keep pressing the question; what was it you wanted to do when you were a lad?

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@redlight “Despite the rough sexual paces, says American director Veronica Hart, women enjoy working with Siffredi” That should say “BECAUSE OF the rough sexual paces…” lol From his GQ interview: “”As far as making visually stimulating erotic cinema, Digital Playground’s pretty much the best,” says Deen. “Personally, I hate it. It’s too pretty. When I’m watching adult, I don’t care about the lighting. I want to see dirty, nasty: Rocco Siffredi”—an Italian porn star known for full-contact choreographies in which he dragoons pretty ladies into tonguing his caboose.” “Then Deen, by way of small talk, recounts yesterday’s Steve-Holmes-texting-the-fellatio-photo-to-Allie-James’s-mother anecdote, to… Read more »

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Looking forward to either:

1) the well thought-out rebuttals that explain a guy like James Deen’s popularity

I won’t offer such a rebuttal. I have a question though. If James Deen is indeed all that, why is he now getting accused (probably falsely) of rape and attacked by SJWs? Didn’t you say earlier that only low-status beta losers suffer such treatment?

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@hoellenhund2 “I won’t offer such a rebuttal.” No one will because it can’t really be done, the evidence is sitting there in his 1300 porn vids and mansion he built off women thinking he’s sexier than firemen lol “I have a question though. If James Deen is indeed all that, why is he now getting accused (probably falsely) of rape and attacked by SJWs? Looks like his bitter ex-GF is just doing what bitter ex-GFs do lol She’s 29 and going to hit the wall soon so maybe it’s a publicity grab before she retires, who knows. The other girls… Read more »

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Deen is a situational alpha and his popularity is largely due to groupies or girls wanting to get in the scene. Also, he has a major halo effect due to either skill or great female acting.

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@Matt “Deen is a situational alpha” That’s definitely true. He’s super uncomfortable in interviews and being the center of attention (males in porn are always the assist rather than the star and he’s more comfortable being out of the spotlight like that). BUT, when he fucks, that’s his situation where he slips into the alpha role/vibe. And even being twitchy and uncomfortable in interviews, he’s still extremely comfortable with sex and sexuality and those subcomms come through. “and his popularity is largely due to groupies or girls wanting to get in the scene. Also, he has a major halo effect… Read more »

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Looks like his bitter ex-GF is just doing what bitter ex-GFs do lol She’s 29 and going to hit the wall soon so maybe it’s a publicity grab before she retires…The other girls who’ve stepped forward all seem to GUSH about working with the guy in interviews and shit in the past but have now changed to hating on him. Wait a minute – are you saying there’s a real possibility that his ex-GF is “bitter”? Why would she be “bitter”? You, the disciples of pick-up, routinely say that a proper PUA leaves women better than he finds them, that… Read more »

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You think Deen runs “proper PUA”? You think he has “internalized the ‘proper’ Red Pill” and can “flip the right switches”? You think that he has a “fantastic mindset”? That’s your theory?

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@hoellenhund2 Well, I don’t think yareally ever said James Deen was a PUA or anything, or even that he gamed girls well as a whole Just that there are some valuable lessons to learn in the way he handles women in his films Also in my experience, it’s always natural “alpha” guys who end up in dramas like these (because they secretely like to stir shit up hahaha). Women don’t hate beta/omega males, these guys don’t exist to them. It’s pretty mind blowing when you realize that. Girls will routinely say to me “ugh, guys are such jerks, they fuck… Read more »

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That’s not my theory, redlight. It’s YaReally’s theory.

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@hollenhund2 no, it’s your silly and deliberate misstatement of YaReally’s theory here, I’ll fix your post for you: Wait a minute – are you saying that his ex-GF is bitter? Why would she be bitter? You, the disciples of pick-up, routinely say that a proper PUA leaves women better than he finds them, that he practices amused mastery and always leaves women with pleasant, warm memories. Right? So James Deen didn’t use proper PUA, likely isn’t even aware of it, and now she is bitter. So if one does not internalize the “proper” Red Pill and just knows to flip… Read more »

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@hoellenhund2
“That’s not my theory, redlight. It’s YaReally’s theory.”

My new theory is that you are retarded. The data you’ve provided so far seems to confirm it.

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For some reason I can’t see @yaReally’s orginal Deen comment. Can someone link it for me?

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@Andy
“For some reason I can’t see @yaReally’s orginal Deen comment. Can someone link it for me?”

There’s a new one in mod too somewhere on this page, watch for it whenever it shows up for more shirtless dudes.

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I’m learning about giggling orgasms. They’re very cool!

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Womens-Health/laughing-during-orgasms/show/31694

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@scribblerg I feel for you with regards to your daughter situation. I look at the parental alienation thing as a kind of ultimate scorched earth, burn every bridge approach by Ex-wife. With time and some degree of geographical isolation on your ex’s side I can see how it would be easy to poison your daughters mind irretrievably over time, years, so effectively it would be all but unrecoverable. The constant drip drip drip of poison into her mind would be relentless and very difficult to counter when you are only there a fraction of the time. That must suck. I… Read more »

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No more commenting towards ASD directly. Setting aside his feral inanity, there is an important point on Parental Alienation that other guys here need to know about. When that retarded ‘sperg old man talks about Parental Alienation as “Dad destroyer game”, of course what he utterly neglects is developmental psychology and family systems psychology. You see, children are forming important relationships and bonding and creating their own “nest” as they grow up. My ex and I split when my daughter was 4.5, due to her having an affair with the guy she ended up marrying. Because he was on the… Read more »

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@agent p – Thanks for the kind words, ‘mano. It was a hard journey and my only solace now is in trying to let other men know about how Parental Alienation works. It’s a taboo subject in the popular culture as it shows women in a very poor light. But when I got with this shrink – a female, fyi – who specialized in non-custodial Dads, she explained how this is an epidemic. Working with her was kind of wild. After 5 minutes of me babbling, she basically told me to shut up and started interviewing me instead. She started… Read more »

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“watch for it whenever it shows up for more shirtless dudes.”

Your comments make me hard regardless.

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@ YaReally Like it’s cool if you can juggle her like a bodybuilder on the beach, but it’s not necessary and probably WILL throw out your back at some point lol. You have to know how to lift and protect yourself, for sure. It may not be necessary, but it’s an emotional rush for a girl to go up and down in the air–a roller coaster effect. She also feels like a helpless bug, lol. There might be some incremental value gain from it, but likely your value’s sky high already if you’re doing that. Did you read my post… Read more »

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When a wife runs Dad Destroyer Game on a daughter, she destroys his value in his daughter’s eyes. The daughter loses all of her emotional investment in her dad and feels cheated by him. Alienation. Estrangement. The dad, however, maintains his emotional investment in his daughter because it’s what dads do. When he interacts with his estranged daughter, he continues to show emotional neediness and Oneitis. The daughter perceives this as him lacking options and being over-invested in her. It feels creepy to her because he doesn’t feel like her dad, especially if she has a replacement. So, the real… Read more »

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Oops

be willing to lol at all shit tests from the daughter.

Real Dad must not be butthurt or show that he feels defrauded.

Game is the only thing that works to combat parental alienation. Not psychobabbleology.

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@Rollo “Who are the primary consumers of porn, men or women?” Men aren’t starting these James Deen fanclubs. Men didn’t propel the guy to #1 status. In fact I would suggest that men are the primary WATCHERS of porn, but women are the primary CONSUMERS. Men know how to use xvideo and torrent their porn, they don’t have to sign up for Deen’s website membership and buy his shit…technologically inept women do that. “but I doubt he’d be a household name if he looked like Jonah Hill naked” Can’t keep just moving the goalposts. I don’t think you or anyone… Read more »

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“At the end of the day I want whatever edge I can get and we want to teach men to fully understand attraction and seduction and female sexuality etc…”

@yaReally

You have to admit that being in shape and having some muscle definition is dominant, and is an edge. When she grabs you, her fingers aren’t sinking into a couple inches of chub, but instead some rock hard larger than average muscles… That’s going to have some psychological impact. That’s an edge. Not an ENORMOUS edge, but still it’s something.

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@scribblerg – sorry to hear about your situation with your daughter. Sounds very complicated. Sounds like she is not returning the respect you think you deserve as an important individual in her life. It seems to me you do deserve that respect. Her being the child, and being a female, and being confused about how to relate to the fatherhood because of the divorce, and the stepdad, and the wife’s psychic family background around this, is a lot for your daughter to digest. But for her own sake it is best if she does digest all that. If you have… Read more »

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Also on the paying for porn memberships thing to clarify: guys are generally subscribing to sites that either specialize in something specific or have a variety of scenes and shit to them…subscribing to a site that, for men, is just standard “guy fucking a girl” porn that isn’t even as rough as 90% of the stuff they can find on pornhub, and the big draw is that the same dude is in every scene…I just can’t see that being a thing that happens enough to propel him into stardom lol But like, every subscriber to “japanese bbw who sells her… Read more »

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@Andy “You have to admit that being in shape and having some muscle definition is dominant,” Explain Deen. He’s dominant and every chick who watches his shit considers him as such (even TOO dominant for some people), and yet he’s just a skinny midget twerp. “and is an edge.” For a guy with no game, looking good is an edge. When you learn game, it becomes irrelevant. The evidence is in the field and in all the infield vids I link for anyone to see. I promote learning game because learning game is a lot faster and easier than getting… Read more »

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“It’s irrelevant. Like I say, girls feel me up and even convince themselves that I have muscles lol”

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Irrelevant is a strong word. Have you been jacked with game and chubby with game? Is there a MAXIMUM level of dominant psychological impact where anything beyond that point is moot?

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@YaReally – How do you not just give up on trying to explain things to men who simply will not process the facts and analysis you present? It seems many men are ego invested in their Blue Pillness and ignorance.

I’m only 5’8″ but I can’t tell you how many times women I’ve been with are surprised when that fact comes out. They tell me “you aren’t short” and most guess my height at 5’11” lol. Just like your muscles.

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“I would be the first one to say “hit the gym” if I didn’t have all these videos and non-firemen pornstars and shit to link, who have female fanbases because of the way they fuck and their subcomms instead of their looks.” I don’t know that women typically subscribe to porn sites a whole lot. I don’t know much about porn (I had no idea who James Deen was until now, I had to look it up), but I do know that every time I open my computer and there’s an ad for “dating” sites, or whatnot, it’s always a… Read more »

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@Andy “Irrelevant is a strong word. Have you been jacked with game and chubby with game?” I haven’t been jacked (though I was in pretty decent shape at one point) but we’ve had guys in the community who have gone back and forth over the years. No real difference except some free initial iois from girls (and usually not the smoking hot ones, usually the average range girls who are just aggressive…the hot 9s and 10s are already surrounded by tall jacked rich dudes in their social circles because 9s and 10s attract those social circles, that shit isn’t special… Read more »

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Good points. That was just token resistance mainly. You linked to that australian RSD guy a while back talking about how he actually gets worse results while jacked because like only 3% girls actually think they’re pretty and they don’t like a guy that has his shit together 100% because it makes them feel bad about themselves. Which is so stupid… but that’s human beings I guess.

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@scribberlg “How do you not just give up on trying to explain things to men who simply will not process the facts and analysis you present? It seems many men are ego invested in their Blue Pillness and ignorance.” I’m patient as fuck lol I was like them at some point too. I have a buddy who’ve been a PUA for YEARS and has only just FINALLY recently realized looks don’t matter when I forced him to come out sick as balls and feeling like shit and looking like garbage with me and some <25yo hottie wanted to take him… Read more »

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@ YaReally

What if your prostate enlarges and you have trouble emptying your bladder and waking up in the middle of the night having to pee? Then, having an old broad who wants to fuck you all the time won’t seem like such a problem.

I could tell you more, but why spoil the fun of finding out for yourself? As you said, men have to experience something for themselves.

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Oh, throwing a broad up into the air and catching her gets her giggling and is foreplay.

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@scribberlg So today we have: Liv Tyler Had Dad Steven Tyler Cut Her Umbilical Cord: Grandpa is a “Magical Wizard” http://www.instyle.com/news/steven-tyler-cut-liv-tyler-umbilical-cord okay, so dad to the rescue. Except hold on here, a week ago: Liv, 38, was born Liv Rudgren after her mother’s partner at the time of her birth and the man who brought her up when she was young. “Todd was such an amazing [man],” she said. “It’s funny because people only ever talk about Steven and they always tell all these stories but [Todd has] been such a beautiful, wonderful influence in my life and I still… Read more »

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Oh, the size of the broad makes a diff when it comes to vaulting them into the air. Mrs. Gamer is a medium-small girl, only about 130 lbs., so it’s not too difficult to send her flying. Hypothetically, I might have trouble juggling someone else like, say, Liz.

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@YaReally – hey I mean no disrespect, but I watched the first 4 and half minutes of the Tyler clip you provided above and I couldn’t bring myself to watch anymore, – I don’t like that guy at all. He seems so try hard, faggy, like a gay guy on speed, just into pressing the right buttons, acting like playing at being daddy, except he would suck as a real daddy, because he is so girly. It’s so weird I just don’t get it at all. And I can see it seems to work and then I start thinking –… Read more »

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“Hypothetically, I might have trouble juggling someone else like, say, Liz.”

Indeed, most people would, Gamer.
I’m three hundred pounds, at LEAST.

Plus the tobacco juice from my spit cup (the cup I’ve nicknamed “Old Sally”, she’s with me at all times) runs down my chin and arms, and makes me pretty slippery.

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@Liz – I think I can imagine you silly sally

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I would actually agree with this, as a female myself yes a guy with a body like Chris Hemsworth in Thor would be amazing. The way a guy presents himself and the alpha quality is what a woman really responds to. For example, there are two guys at my job and they both like the same girl, however the way they each approach her are different. The first guy is in his early 20’s and is more of the beta type while the other guy is in his late 20’s and has more alpha qualities. Now i have watched as… Read more »

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@wild person

I watched the first 4 and half minutes of the Tyler clip you provided above and I couldn’t bring myself to watch anymore

I did lifting for 4.5 minutes, but I couldn’t bring myself to continue. Why can’t lifting be comfortable?

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@redlight – but why does it seem so gay? Doing some deadlifts for 4 and half minutes doesn’t seem gay. OK you got a point – maybe I’m just just doing the justify’in thing – in fairness I’ll look at the whole clip and then decide (ps – I don’t think what YaReally otherwise posts seems gay though).

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I was going for some imagery there, Wild Man.
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@redlight: “Her mother is Bebe Buell, rock chick, ex-Playboy Playmate and supergroupie – Buell’s conquests include David Bowie, Iggy Pop, Lou Reed, Jimmy Page, Mick Jagger and Elvis Costello” OK this is pretty funny at Lou Reeds’ expense (sorry Lou Reed). He is gay and his folks sent him fro electroshock therapy to shock the gay the fuck out of him. But it didn’t take dammit! And then later they find out all they needed to do was get him with Bebe Buell?!! What a mindfuck for Lou Reed’s parents! OK – that was a bit mean. Also, Lou Reed… Read more »

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@Liz – yeah – I was going for the imagery of the person behind the imagery!

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@wild person

but why does it seem so gay?

Because he is trying to fuck your mind

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@rugby11ljh – rip-off I tell you! – the only good thing about 80’s style was the thong – where’s the thong?!

Seriously though – I enjoyed this but I think it shows mainstream culture is controlled by those that uphold the FI.

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@Rollo “Deen may be the number 1 search, but look at the physiques of his contemporaries.” You mean “9. The only search terms that reference men in that top 10 are for “Old Man” and “Daddy.””? Are those pulling up porn with hot calendar firemen? Or do you mean “11. The four most commonly searched for porn stars by women are female.” where women’s top 10 porn star searches consist of James Deen and Mandingo (giant cock) and…well, there are no other men in the list. Shouldn’t that list be full of jacked firemen dudes? Or “12. But James Deen… Read more »

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Hey Rollo, everyone,
Good stuff! I’ve written about this topic, too:

Amy Schumer’s “Body Acceptance” Campaign Is One Big, Fat Joke
http://judgybitch.com/2015/12/02/guest-post-amy-schumers-body-acceptance-campaign-is-one-big-fat-joke/
#ObsidianRadio #JudgyBitch

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@Wild Man “I watched the first 4 and half minutes of the Tyler clip you provided above and I couldn’t bring myself to watch anymore, – I don’t like that guy at all. He seems so try hard, faggy, like a gay guy on speed, just into pressing the right buttons, acting like playing at being daddy, except he would suck as a real daddy, because he is so girly. It’s so weird I just don’t get it at all. And I can see it seems to work and then I start thinking – yuk – that girl is as… Read more »

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@YaReally, I don’t know the dude’s name, but I’ve seen some videos of this dude (I believe he used to regularly do that Kelly Madison girl) that reminds me of Tyler’s ginger self, but this dude gets so intense and into the fucking that it struck me how lame most other porn dudes are – and how lame most of us dudes, especially married dudes, let our sex lives get. Not sure if you know who I’m talking about, but the dude is intense. He reminded me that “routine” sex must be avoided at all costs. Every time you do… Read more »

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“…An 18yo girl with Instagram and Twitter and shit who’s following Jezebel and TMZ is going to be more up to date on knowing who James Deen is than a chick who’s like, 25+ and not really entrenched in 2015 pop culture.” I get that guys are trying hard to get sex/laid, but under no circumstance should we cosign getting entangled in young chick bullshit. Unbecoming for a man. Young girls can be like a stirred up bee hive. Just massive flurries of hive mind activity. James Deen can get a moderate amout of notoriety among younger chicks and they… Read more »

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So I keep getting girls downplaying their looks to me, and I’m wondering what that’s all about. Case 1: was talking to a co-worker. Cute girl, I flirt/banter with her for the heck of it. I was teasing her about how she must have all the teenage boys that come up to the counter all flustered or something like that, and she just kinda looked down and said “I’m not a very cute girl.” She seemed to earnestly feel it, she wasn’t just riding me for a laugh. I laughed it off and did some A&A, but she didn’t really… Read more »

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“Hard to say what’s up really, it’s possible that his stardom just went to his head and he’s out there miscalibrating tea-bagging girls” @yaReally So uhh, about miscalibrating stuff sexually… I was going to ask this question after finishing the archives, but this seems like as good a time as any(and you don’t seem to mind repeating yourself), and reading between the lines of what I’ve read in the archives so far I have a feeling you may have figured this out… ANYWAY, so I get bored easily and every once in a while I’ll kind of intentionally “miscalibrate” and… Read more »

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” @redlight – but why does it seem so gay? Doing some deadlifts for 4 and half minutes doesn’t seem gay. OK you got a point – maybe I’m just just doing the justify’in thing – in fairness I’ll look at the whole clip and then decide (ps – I don’t think what YaReally otherwise posts seems gay though).” LOL… The guys in the vids evidently are very successful at what they do. I ain’t mad at that at all. I’ve told YaReally long ago that when I attempted to watch the vids of these guys in action, I was… Read more »

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Oh yeah guys, hit the gym.

Not for chicks, for your life.

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@Blaximus – well I’m 56 so maybe being older has something to do with it. Like I don’t see any reason to try too hard – seems sort of beneath me. I don’t want to sound condescending about it but I don’t see the point, if I gotta try too hard it’s not worth it, – giving up some frame – that is going to make me feel a little less secure – might lead to some anxiety – who needs that? – the lady needs to realize I am qualifying her too – if she can’t get that –… Read more »

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@ Liz

…tobacco juice from my spit cup…mama warned me about girls like you…”don’t smoke, don’t chew, and don’t go with girls who do”…at least your name isn’t “bridget”

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Lol yareally loves dick riding Tyler, it’s funny how there are no jacked pua’s, they are all skinny metro guys. Jacked guys don’t rely on game nearly as much as because of pure biological attraction.

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” it’s funny how there are no jacked pua’s, they are all skinny metro guys.”

Yeah, or maybe it’s just bad business because if people see a 6’4″ football player with game pulling chicks they’ll just throw up their hands in disgust, give up and retreat back to their computer to jerk off to porn for the rest of their lives. lol, how are we still talking about this?

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@Blax – Tyler grew on me as I learned more. While I don’t think I was as strong a natural as you are, I am also a natural. I viscerally was repulsed by the overt crap he pulled, but when I looked at it I found that what was really going on that it pissed me off that it worked. There is another PUA, James Marshall, The Natural Lifestyle who has a really low energy approach. Ton of them on Youtube, he’s one set he ran on the street. Notice how low key he is but still, he works her… Read more »

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Rollo is correct. Attraction is not arousal. My experience irl are as follows: I was always a skinny teen. 6ft tall, 145 pounds soaking wet. I hated it with a passion because I came from a long line of big men, and I felt kinda like a freak because I was so small. Yet, I had no problem pulling chicks and getting laid. Looking back ( hindsight=20/20 ), even though I was skinny, I had very broad shoulders and a small waist. V taper all day long. But what chicks commented on consistently was my vascularity. I don’t know the… Read more »

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“At only 34, starting to show some premature aging signs like neck fat, crows feet and wrinkles at décolletage,”

That’s about right for a white woman. She would be a 5 if she lost weight.

As for Vin Diesel, that pic shocked me because he was in such great shape before. His face hasn’t aged much in the last decade though.

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“…I type with my 80yo arthritis fingers “See? Look, I TOLD you! This guy looks exactly like Seth Rogan and now he’s the number 1 male pornstar tons of young girls in their prime are fantasizing about” are you gonna squint at the hologram screen and with your last dying breath say “Well, that’s only a 250lbs guy, what about a 275lbs guy with NO HAIR!! SEE?? I’m riiiiiight” as you float off to haunt Roosh?” http://www.reactiongifs.com/lol/lolololol.gif Also, @enrique, I remember that bit you did where some guy tells his GF that his lifestyle of fancy clothes and trips to… Read more »

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scribblerg ,

Okay, that James Marshall stuff isn’t bad. Calmer. Relaxed. I didn’t tense up while watching. Lol. Later I’ll check out some of his stuff because I like to see guys interacting with chicks, especially the street approaches.

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Bios

” As for Vin Diesel, that pic shocked me because he was in such great shape before. His face hasn’t aged much in the last decade though.”

Your bod can dessert you with amazing speed if you’ve followed an intense workout regimen and then suddenly stop and let your diet go all to hell.

And the older you are, the quicker it happens.

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@newlyaloof No idea lol I don’t pay attention to names in porn. But next time I’m porning it up I’ll look up Kelly Madison lol Porn is great for picking up bits and pieces and seeing a lot of dynamcis in action. People who are like “uhhh porn is all fake you know and everyone looks unrealistic and perfect” it’s like, you clearly haven’t looked at porn since the 90s lol “Porn” now is a ton of amateur shit, a couple picks up a camera and films some shit, some girl gets herself off on her webcam in a library,… Read more »

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Schumer-an ugly, crass hack that most men wouldnt fuck with their worst enemies cocks.
I dont pay Hollywood. I download. In essence, my cost for anything I watch approaches zero. I still havent seen this beasts movie(s) and never will. All the scumbag pimps-apatow, et al-in Hollywood, and their friends in New York, can take their nonsense and get stuffed. They won’t get my money, though I’d be happy to chip in to build effigies of several media moguls and set them on fire.

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Lol Gamer. smile

Forge:
“Basically I don’t want to fall into the trap of ‘OMG gurll you look GORGEOUS don’t even SAY that’ like one of her girlfriends, but the usual neg/agree and amplify stuff doesn’t seem to get past it either. I had a thought that maybe I should escalate – “let’s go into that closet and we’ll find out what I think of you” – but I’m not quite sure.
Thoughts??

You could probably (in a joking way) saying something like, “So you’re saying I have poor taste?”

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“Oh yeah guys, hit the gym.

Not for chicks, for your life.”

Fuckin’ A, Dude.

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Here’s a Liam infield clip, dude is pretty chill in some sets (I’m not a big fan of his game, I think James Marshall is better at the super-chill pickups), and he breaks down all the calibrating and stuff he’s doing (he’s doing the same shit Tyler and crew do, he’s just doing it at a different pace and energy, but the concepts he’s executing are the same shit that flips attraction switches):

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@YaReally – OK I think I’m starting to see your point. Don’t knock it until you try it yourself. Mmmm. I have to admit something about all this PUA makes me uncomfortable and I have to start to consider that might have a lot to do with my own issues of identity. You are a very positive person – you don’t seem to get pissed off when people aren’t hearing you – you just stay on message and keep trying. I’m starting to wonder if the common thread, PUA-wise, is an effort not to expend too much energy in ego… Read more »

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@ YaReally The reality is this isn’t a movie, there can be bad consequences for not calibrating. Yeah, you have to calibrate carefully for sure. And switch gears to wipe out those bad feelz. Say you moved your hand from her upper glute to her lower glute and she tensed up. So you say that you saw a buddy that you need to talk to right now and take off. You talk, then reenter the set. The broad is worried about losing your attention after all her investment, so she’s chasing you when you reenter the set and you have… Read more »

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With women having the hots for firemen and jacked up guys, and older women having some money (cash and prizes), what do you think the demand is for male gigolos? “There is no gigolo industry,” says Dominick, the former escort who writes Ask Dominick, an advice column for male escorts and male escort wannabes at Rentboy.com, a gay escort listings site. While Dominick’s column focuses on issues that gay escorts confront, STUD, it’s the “Male Escort 101” course you’ve been looking for. “What STUD is seeking is a fantasy—one that has been fueled by cultural products like American Gigolo and… Read more »

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Liz
I don’t know that women IN MY AGE GROUP typically subscribe to porn sites a whole lot.

FIFY, solipsistic dearie.

Back in the 90’s I read a survey that showed only 30% of women admitted to masturbation. More recent surveys show 40% to 50%. It’s clearly a demographic thing.

Liz, grab 10 phones off of 20 year old women, and I bet at least 6 of them have some sort of porn. In some urban areas probably 9.

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Holy shit. Don’t look at 20 year old girl’s phones. The horror.

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This dude is 77:

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