The Tyranny of Biomechanics

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Well, dammit, I had a very insightful article warming up in my drafts folder about Open Cuckoldry (it’s still coming, promise), but I felt compelled to riff on the new Pirelli Tyre calendar photoshoot first. The calendar art is replete with a semi-nude Amy Schumer sipping a pumpkin-spice latte, “tastefully” rendered in greyscale (the calling card of an ‘artiste’ as a opposed to just a ‘photographer’) and the doughy eyed stare of a comedienne who grasps the ludicrous seriousness of how her image will be received and delivered by a feminine-centric society.

I’ll be honest, I don’t much care for Schumer as a comedian or an actress, and if you read here with any regularity I’d expect you don’t either. She characterizes, with triumphantly unwarranted hubris, everything the Feminine Imperative would like generations of women to celebrate as a victory over the evil “Patriarchy” that, by design, is never entirely defeated. In a post-End of Men society, fat, goofy women will be the banner bearers the imperative will have dance on the symbolic corpse of the “Patriarchy” that will never die or be unuseful to it.

The irony here is that Amy’s naked girth is being lauded by the usual media suspects as “brave” and “stunning”. Calling a woman of this physique “stunning” is like telling the retarded kid he actually ran the football back for a real touchdown to win the big game. Perhaps Amy is self-aware enough to realize this, but her participation in her own humiliation tells the bigger story. The fact that she rationalizes her nudes as being “authentic” as opposed to ridiculous verifies this.

Now before I go much further here, I’ll remind readers that I’m entirely aware that this “groundbreaking” photoshoot of “real” women is little more than a publicity effort, nominally on Pirelli Tyres (are they a British brand?), but mostly for photographer Annie Leibovitz and her feminist triumphalisms (she also shot ‘Woman’ of the Year, Caitlyn Jenner).

Since the inception of this blog I’ve always gotten props for the pictures I select as my lead-ins to what I’m writing. This talent is really the result of my having worked in advertising and brand development for years, and having to be the de facto photographer and photo editor for more than 20 years. Trust me, I get the language of imagery, and it’s not difficult to see the train that Leibovitz is riding here.

At the launch of the calendar on Monday, Leibovitz explained that none of these photographs had been conceived with the male gaze in mind. Williams’s photo was “not a nude but a body study”, she said, while Schumer’s was a comic conceit: “The idea was that she was the only one who had not got the memo about wearing clothes.”

The ‘Male Gaze” card is disingenuous when the stated intent of the shoot is an,…

…arty soft-core ode to pinups produced by the Italian tire manufacturer,…

The Bigger Narrative

There’s a much larger story being sold here than a fat comedienne’s rationalizing her nude form as championing “authenticity” or “realness”. What we’re observing, yet again, is the frustration of women being able to optimize their inherent Hypergamy against what our evolved biology dictates for them.

I’ve written extensively on the conflict between an idealized Equalism and human beings’ evolved predilection for Complementarity. Whenever there is a new ‘outrage’ over “body shaming” or “fat shaming”, with a Red Pill lens we can see what this conflict represents: The frustration women experience, and the anxiety of insecurity they feel when presented with the prospect of not being able to optimize their Hypergamous impulses because simple biology selects them out based on their physicality.

No doubt Leibovitz believes in her rationalization that she’s shooting artful nudes without the mythical ‘male gaze’ in mind, but she knows on a visceral level the form of every nude woman in art throughout history has been rendered with the intent of replicating a beauty that inspires arousal (thus the ode to the pin-up). The simple hard-coded fact of nature is that the form of a semi-nude woman, by order of degree, stimulates the area of the male brain associated with tool use and thereby objectification. On a limbic level, sex with beautiful, arousing women is literally a problem to be solved by the male brain.

Leibovitz gets this. In fact she banks money on instigating the deliberate contradiction that human biology poses to her own (and a larger society’s) ego-investments in blank-slate Equalism. The root of this prefabricated indignation rests in women’s existential doubt of optimizing Hypergamy. That doubt conflicts with the uncertainty of establishing a social order that will force men to act and be influenced by idealized Equalism rather than their evolved biology.

In other words, the latent purpose of this social order is to force men to comply with women’s sexual strategy, irrespective of their evolved sexual arousal cues.

The ostensible want for an ideal Equalism, or a dubious gender parity, is really the cover story for the want of 100% consolidated control over their ability to optimize Hypergamy by literally controlling the sexual selection choices men are able to make for themselves.

Schumer apparently earns the label of “real” because a few rolls around her midsection are on display – because her body is less than perfect by pop culture standards. Would she be any less “real” if she didn’t allow her body to be consumed in this way? Can’t all bodies count as “real”, no matter what they look like and who lives in them and whether or not they choose to show themselves – clothed or naked?

I find it interesting that an out of shape Vin Diesel is ridiculed for his present physique, or that ‘Dad Bods’ are sardonically described as ‘sexy’ while the over-the-shoulder giggles ensue, but what I don’t expect is for these men to be held as a physical ideal in women’s estimate. There are no photographers, male or female, shooting artful nudes of overweight men, normal “real” men of professional accomplishment, or middle linemen for exclusive calendars. Firemen with rippling abs sell very well, but “real” men? Not so much.

However the difference is that men don’t expect women’s choices of what physically arouses them to shift in favor of their physiques based on expected societal shifts. In fact, we don’t even expect women not to laugh at a naked Seth Rogan or Jonah Hill. The automatic impression is to laugh at them because they don’t come close to women’s physical ideal, so the presumption of intent must be humor. Yet we are expected to perceive a naked Amy Schumer as “real’, “authentic”, “brave” and “stunning”, and to do so with genuflection, devoid of laughter and ridicule.

The uncomfortable truth is that women have far higher, far more static and far more stringent physical ideals for men than men will ever have for women when it comes to basic visceral arousal cues. Yes, I understand there are more variables to attraction than just the physical, but we are talking about representing physical ideals in photos and calendars here. Firemen and Sports Illustrated swimsuit models are the standard order for a reason – evolved, practical, efficient biomechanics that have made us what we are today, not pop-culture stereotypes.

T-Rex Wants to Hunt

T-rex doesn’t want to be fed; he wants to hunt. You can’t just suppress sixty-five million years of gut instinct. – Dr. Grant, Jurassic Park

Sexuality, families, and men did not come about because of society. To the contrary, sexuality, families, and men are what made society possible in the first place. – Pook

These are some excellent examples of the conflict I’ve described above here. The Equalism of Annie Leibovitz – the dubious societal idealism that hopes these fundamental, biological underpinnings can be overridden by a self-defined higher order cognitivism – will always lock horns with the T-Rex that represents human biology. Annie and the rest of the prophetesses of gender equality are only, symbolically, trying to feed the T-Rex of evolved gender dynamics in the hopes he’ll stay in the paddock, behave himself and only occasionally put on a good show for the customers.

However, even in the hopes of that a contrived, idealized gender Equalism will ever pull the teeth of the T-Rex, the same evolved need women have for Hypergamous certainty informs the concept of what that ideal “equality” should look like. The T-Rex is women too.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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With regards to the Pirrelli tire calendar, I think its a smart marketing move. If they keep doing hottie calendars, they will just get more slag from the MSM for being old school sexists. By doing this move they create controversy, as a result they get lots of press and can swan on about how “meaningful and thoughtful they are” but none of that matters, what they get is name recognition with female consumers. Show me a man who owns a car and doesn’t know the name Pirelli and I’ll know he is likely a pajama boy, or a guy… Read more »

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What’s sad about Amy, is she probably would still be a 6+ if she had kept herself in shape. Remove that baby fat from her face, and all the chocolate-at-night-before-bed-fat all over her body and she probably still passes the B-test.

Women must really have ridiculous levels of expectation for life to be easy if they think that staying in shape is too hard to bother with.

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@agent p – Pirelli is a high end, performance product, the kind of product a man who is into cars and mechanical items would appreciate. I’m having a very hard time imagining the typical woman standing at the counter in the tire shop saying, “Sure, $950 for the set seems worth it”. They’ll opt for the cheaper tires. I bet if you analyzed Pirelli sales, more than 90% of the buyers of their products are men because of the niche the occupy. When I drove performance/luxury cars, I didn’t care if I dropped that kind of money on tires –… Read more »

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@scribblerg I agree with you about the general nature of the product, but women, well off women can still own BMW’s and Mercs that need tires right? Luxury market goods enjoy far better margins that pedestrian level goods so even small leverage there could eke out incremental sales gains they are always chasing year after year. What’s the flip side, say they keep producing the calendar, would it change your choice of tires? Probably not because you will assess the choice of tires on the basis of technical performance standards etc. not because the calendar has some mad tits in… Read more »

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“No comment necessary.”

She looks like the victim of artificial hormones.
She does joke about taking Plan B “the night before”.
I’ve seen people make the same sort of transformation over subsequent months after getting a Depo-Provera shot.

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Just rewatched Pitch Black a few days ago. Vin Diesel is in terrible shape. But still: I think the look on his face still makes him an attractive man. We don’t get it all bad…

And once you understand the game you can realize: Amy Schumer needs being called brave while Vin Diesel is still not a target of pity but impressive enough to feel a need to pull him down. No need to curse on the FI if you understand that.

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Another great article, and I enjoyed the “Tard & The T-Rex” references! It’s so funny, that all of this is so predictable from past articles and what you see happening before you today. Long story short, women still want to define what men think is sexy. Don’t think so? Try this at your next dinner party or social gathering, by asking women, “Ok, who defines what is “sexy” in a woman? Is it men or women?”…they will all say, “Well, of course we do!”….the delusion is real. What I think gets lost is how desperate for attention to be “sexy”… Read more »

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Fwiw, I think Vin Diesel is (still) a very attractive man. He spent decades super-fit and now he’s got young kids, different life season. Shows he is human and not a robot.
He’ll get back in shape, and he hasn’t made a living off of “isn’t it funny I’m a fat drunken couch potato slut” schtick.

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What I think gets lost is how desperate for attention to be “sexy” someone like Amy is, and all “full figured” women like her…like her, “I could have sex with a hot guy right now” speech

This feature is designed in. See my post about women and their need for validation: https://theasdgamer.wordpress.com/2015/12/01/women-want-and-need-validation-a-lesson-from-the-song-of-solomon/

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@enrique “If she recently ran a 5k that she’s been posting about for 6 months, and came in last: “I figure I ran a pretty respectable race for a mother of two who usually wear flip flops when I’m not at the board meeting” (added points if accompanied by a pic or two of her “adorable” kids giving her water at the finish line) If she took her kids to the county fair: “I had to remind my kids that as brave as I was as a little girl, nothing I had accomplished as a senior manager with a grad… Read more »

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The only British thing about Pirelli is the steadfast championing of their rubbers by legitimate businessman Bernie Ecclestone, and their thus being foisted on the F1 format (that’s Eff One, not F.I.).
The drivers do not like.
Slippery when wet, implicated in several recent “racing incidents”. And criminally sloo-oow.

Personally I go for Vredestein, for both heavy rain (i.e. brit “summer”) and snow flavors (these latter are bloody miraculous, IMO). ‘Stopping distance’ is my favorite stat.

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@ Sisyphus

hope he doesn’t expect anything–men, you know how they are!

no tingles generated by her man

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All that and you didn’t mention the real libido killer in the bunch, Yoko Ono. That crazy beotch was ugly in the 60’s when John Lennon took up with her. 40 years haven’t improved the situation. Sorry, half naked ugly aged exhibitionist performance artist Yoko’s appearance isn’t “brave.” It’s pathetic. A couple of those women were actually pretty decent looking, but other than Serena I wouldn’t think of them as hot in any way. And Serena is hot only to the extent that a hot athletic girl trips your trigger. For a lot of guys she’s gross looking. And that’s… Read more »

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Women to men: “We demand that you give up your hard-wired reproductive strategy so that we can maintain ours”.
Men to women: “No”.

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The Pirelli calendar wasn’t targeted at “dirty working men” for a long time. It became a cultural institution long ago. Originals are for collectors and “dirty working men” get cheap digital pictures from it – if they care.
Neither Pirelli nor the FI can control what men pin into their locker rooms, only boners get to choose that. It’s a sign of hegemony of the FI over the cultural-intellectual space for sure, but not more.

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“The boner doesn’t lie, but any suggestion that she might alter herself physically or mentally to appease the boner is an affront to ego-investments she’s held for over half her life.”

Ahh the bitter taste of the red pill, it’s an acquired taste really

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Women to men: “We demand that you give up your hard-wired reproductive strategy so that we can maintain ours”.

Men hear: Blah, blah, blah

Men to women: “Sorry, didn’t hear you”.

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Hi Rollo, Im a MASSIVE fan, you’ve literally been like the father figure ive never had, literally turned my life around, anyway, a short recap, after unplugging in june this year and reading all your articles, Ive managed to change my mindset, internalize(i think) red pill truths and etcs, and have seen much success in terms of women. This is hard for me to explain clearly in words but it ties in with your article on the beta hamster. Firstly a short recap on my life story (hoping other readers will read this and give their input themselves). Ive always… Read more »

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Don’t lose sight that Pirelli’s overt strategy is following the Oscar Wilde rule: “It is far better to be talked about than not to be talked about.” So here we are talking about it. Bell rings, we salivate. It’s pretty clear Pirelli hired Liebovitz and gave her license to do her thing, and she chose this as her artistic-type statement-type thing. Next year they could be back to the cheesecake again. They could hire some Japanese photog to have models pose as anime-porn or some such. Speaking of cheesecake, Liebovitz has been there and shot that. Pretty sure it was… Read more »

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Liz
December 2nd, 2015 at 9:10 am

Ah. But beauty is a handicap. What woman wants to trade down?

Or for the guys point of view, “She is out of my league”

How many times do you see a beautiful woman interviewed:

Woman: “I don’t date much.”
Interviewer: “But you are so beautiful.”

A 7 or 8 or 9 is a good looking woman. A 10 is just a fantasy. Intimidating to all but those men with huge confidence reserves. That level of confidence is very rare. Just as a 9.5+ is very rare.

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@M Simon

Woman: “I don’t date much.”
Interviewer: “But you are so beautiful.”

That is instinctive knowledge of SMV coming through. A woman will *always* say this because she instinctively knows that the fewer men who have touched her, the more valuable she is. It’s like meeting a random woman at a thanksgiving party and watching her barely peck at her salad and completely shun the heavier foods… she’s just trying to preserve the fantasy of her own high value. It’s girl-game.

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@B – Thanks for your comment. I have a thought for you. Focus on a woman who expresses interest in you and has desire for you, who you are also attracted to. Then fuck her like a porn star, seriously. Once you have the experience of dominating a woman WHO LOVES IT, these memories of your sexual misadventures will fade quickly. I could relate to some of it for sure, from a different POV. I had that romantic notion of sex, and how special it was supposed to be. I used to look down at guys like me who fucked… Read more »

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Today’s Dear Abby begins:

I have dated a lot of women over the years — including actresses, beauty contest winners and models. Every one of them, except my current live-in, “Amanda,” would dress up in lingerie when I asked them to. Amanda adamantly refuses. She says if I love her, I should be turned on whether she’s nude or wearing lingerie. Part of the problem is she’s not in the best shape, and the lingerie would hide that.

if you loved her, your boner should work. Please see your FI womanual.

http://www.uexpress.com/dearabby/2015/12/2/man-wants-his-girlfriend-to-stay

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“Ah. But beauty is a handicap.”

In the same way that being very rich is a “handicap”. It’s still a good “problem” to have. Anytime a woman thinks she is too good looking she can tone it down all she wants. I recommend ugly teeth from the ROK, and some ugly glasses. Done.

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I think in psychology terms, SJWs and modern feminists would qualify as enablers for poor mental and physical health in women. Looking at it that way, men who tell it like it is (“No, I’m not at all attracted to fat, bitchy woman”) actually care more about women than the slacktivists that call the men “misogynists” for not enabling self-destructive behavior.

It would be fascinating, if it weren’t so goddamned tragic.

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@Sisyphus: White women are the champions of the back-patting, self-stroke compliment, crafted as though it were a passing comment. They can literally (as I did in my parody) load an entire sentence with so much otherwise hidden narcissism, that you honestly can’t tell if they’re pulling your leg–except their not. I just made up those “quotes” and as you see, they sound real enough. In fact, someone could post them and get a million likes, with women bandwagon/one-upping even: “Honey, if your biggest worry at the fair was the rides, please, I get tired of all the creepy rich guys… Read more »

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@Liz

and some ugly glasses.

That won’t work. I have a horrible weakness for chicks in glasses. Think I might go so far as to propose a law banning eye surgery on women strictly for that reason.

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December 2nd, 2015 at 11:11 am

In a year Europe will have a very different culture. Think Friday the 13th times 1,000.

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(I lost my erection when trying to put on a condom (quite traumatic i would add)), this was etched into my psyche and determined i believe some of my failings with new partners after. It would only be for the first few times, and once i got used to a partner it would be fine. In neurological terms, a path was etched into your brain the first time, and ever since then you’ve followed it. Per Biology of Desire it is possible that you could reduce the chances of this happening with a lot of visualization. Not fantasies, visualization. Visualize… Read more »

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@Fred – Pirelli doesn’t need word of mouth from this – it’s not a celebrity or some Pet Rock. It’s an established, world class brand with solid distribution channels and a great reputation for performance and quality. Their revenue comes from two sources. Selling to luxury car manufacturers to be placed on new BMWs, Lexus, Mercs etc and from tire shops who sell aftermarket. This is expressly about placating a particular social/political constituency in elite circles, not about selling more tires. I’d bet this will do exactly zero for real business outcomes – not withstanding that some tiny number of… Read more »

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Caption: “Pirelli – for your spare tire needs”

Schumer looks like a soccer mom who has had a long, meaningful affair with Starbucks. She’s really just 34? I would have guessed closer to 40.

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PS to B: stop looking for a woman who is your mental equal, that’s way too close to looking for a woman who is a “man with boobs”. Look instead for women that are complimentary to you, “smart enough” in a sense.

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Liz December 2nd, 2015 at 1:32 pm She spent years with appliances to get her teeth right. Still wears them at night I think. ================ Parents want grand kids. I remember when we started a family. It made Mom and Dad so happy. The grin on Dad’s face when he was holding a grand kid in his arms was a sight to behold. What 24 yo beauty wants to give up her beauty for a bunch of squalling brats? It took me and the LTR well into our 30s to start that cycle. Our last was when the LTR was… Read more »

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It’s an established, world class brand with solid distribution channels and a great reputation for performance and quality.

Meh. I think Pirelli’s are overrated nowadays. I’m liking Michelin, Kumho, Falken, even Toyo more than Pirelli. For sure I have no reason to buy them now.

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@enrique – hilarious posts….you totally hit the bulls-eye. And it’s 10x as funny to me because you just described my friends 5k running wife to-a-tee, What I hate most in the world is the pandemic of women constantly on their phones. You never see them look up – not once – ever. It doesn’t matter what they are doing….tap..tap..fuckin tap. It’s almost like if they are not seen to be totally engrossed in reading or tapping away then maybe they are not as popular or important or attractive etc etc. When these narcissistic harpies walk towards me in the street… Read more »

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Adding to the demise of western woman, specifically as mothers: The other day listened to a radio show about a sudden wave of grade three kids in our City and how their behaviour has gone off the hook in a bad way. Their interpersonal skills have gone in the crapper. They were interviewing a 20 year veteran grade three teacher and she explains that “sure we’re used to 1 or 2 kids having social problems, poor eye contact not playing well with others, fighting, tantrums etc etc, but this year in the first month we had 17 out of 30… Read more »

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This is a great post. One thing that recently occurred to me as my red pill awareness evolves is the impossibility of equalisim regarding respect, loyalty and friendly companionship. My red pill choking is due more to the fact that I expected to receive those three considerations from a woman in a LTR. I was not so much expecting of romantic bliss and the fulfillment of sexual fantasy as I was a recprical exchange of these three considerations without caveat or obligation. In this sense, I expected an equality based on an assumed preunderstanding of values equally desired. I now… Read more »

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@Anonymous – Jesus, are going to debate tire quality? Talk about missing the point. The point is that “Buzz” is not something that will help them much given their existing brand and business model. The purchase decision is made by auto manufacturers in the original equipment market, and in the aftermarket mostly by people at the point of sale in tire outlets who are relying on offers by the tire company and the advice of the counter guy (never met a female counter person at a tire store). Ergo, this can’t be really about generating more business. I don’t run… Read more »

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@agent p – That is a terrifying hypothesis but a strong one. Given that mothers are the strongest influence on young children, it is possible.

Our society is cork-screwing into the face of the earth. And women are leading the charge…

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@nbtm – This: “My red pill choking is due more to the fact that I expected to receive those three considerations from a woman in a LTR. I was not so much expecting of romantic bliss and the fulfillment of sexual fantasy as I was a recprical exchange of these three considerations without caveat or obligation.” Yep. For me, the choking also entailed realizing what a fucking sucker I’d been, for decades and at a price of over 1 million bucks. And it’s not just lovers. In desperation after my adult daughter scraped me out of her life (she was… Read more »

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@Liz Anytime a woman thinks she is too good looking she can tone it down all she wants. I recommend ugly teeth from the ROK, and some ugly glasses. Done. Hah, you only think you’re hiding yourself. You are presuming the male gaze can be fooled, a very precarious position to take considering you’ve not experienced it. Realistically, if a guy has contact with you more than 3-4 times, he’s going to know whether or not you’re attractive, regardless of what you wear or do to yourself. I’d wager even a burqa can’t fully hide true beauty because the male… Read more »

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Going to drop this here in case anyone finds it useful.
https://m.facebook.com/groups/1582144355381294?view=permalink&id=1654624024799993&src=email_notif
Body and social cohesion.

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Rollo, On the topic of equality, another article for you might like. Mark Zuckerberg letter in which he plans to give away 99% of his $45bn Facebook shares to promote equality – for real. You’ll love the language “We will give 99% of our Facebook shares — currently about $45 billion — during our lives to advance this mission.”, written by both he and his wife, funny how this $45bn is equally hers. And got to love the name of the foundation, Chan Zuckerberg, her name comes first!
https://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-zuckerberg/a-letter-to-our-daughter/10153375081581634
https://www.facebook.com/chanzuckerberginitiative/

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Jeremy said “…but the more contact a guy has with you, the more impossible it becomes for you to “hide yourself”.”

Gospel truth right here. Amen.

I’ve had 2 encounters with women wearing burqas. The draping of the garment did actually, practically accentuate their bodies. This is what I find so odd about the current trend of extra tight ( yoga pants ) or revealing outfits. It’s really not necessary.

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“According to my wife and ma-in-law the baby may as well have been left in a box for all the attention it was getting from its mother. ” Women are so f’n judgmental about other mothers… It’s ridiculous. The phones are definitely a problem, but I wouldn’t put too much stake in what a woman says about another mother. My wife has a comment about ALL of em, even her good friends. Even if she does exactly the same shit. And it’s usually exaggerated. I’ve never heard her say a positive thing about another Mom. Ever. You should see the… Read more »

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@Blaximus,

I don’t really think women can grasp the pull of the male gaze. But as an example to you Liz… I actually recall wondering as a young teenager how attractive the Statue of Liberty should be under that toga.

I am NOT joking.

Yes, I actually spent brain cycles attempting to determine her body shape, and likely had debates with friends over it.

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@ scribbler

Answer: “No. I don’t owe you anything.” And you know what? She pays almost no social price in this society for doing so. Disposing of husbands and fathers is practically a sport for today’s women.

My daughters were the same way. I gamed them, mostly by ignoring them. Then I paid a very little attention to them–I teased them. They responded with snark initially, but then became sweeter when I held frame and didn’t respond with anger–just some amused mastery.

I credit the commenters on here for helping me.

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@ NBTM

One thing that recently occurred to me as my red pill awareness evolves is the impossibility of equalisim regarding respect, loyalty and friendly companionship.

You posted a great comment and I chose this one section. I think that you can get these things, but you must make your expectations explicit at the outset and call out any infractions, no matter how minor, and hold frame.

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@B My main question is really, whether our first sexual experiences tie into what we are trying to recreate in future sex experiences. IE, If I had been sold an ideology where sex was purely for pleasure and i was there to dominate the girl, and that was my mindset going into the scenario when i lost my virginity, I would use that as a benchmark for all my future encounters, making sex more from my ‘mental point of origin’ rather that making it something of a huge emotional significance between me and my partner (who according to blue pill… Read more »

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@ASD – And were you divorced and alienated from your daughters? No. Parental Alienation is entirely different than having some ungrateful child – she doesn’t see me as her father, I was replaced and disposed of but she and her Mom played along to keep me docile and emitting cash and I never knew it. Do some research on parental alienation – which I must have mentioned at least 100 times in my comments here – and then keep your idiotic advice to yourself. I came to this conclusion after consulting a psychologist who spent a lot of time diagnosing… Read more »

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Check out the next generation of social justice warrior/feminists.
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GzGAW7k2V8&w=560&h=315%5D

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@ scribbler

You see, ASD, you don’t have the slightest fucking clue as to what’s going on, yet you run your mouth. Seems to be a pattern with you.

Nah, didn’t communicate with one of them for years. The other would barely talk to me and always had something snarky to say, despite me having given my retirement money for her education to be a doctor.

I know what it’s like to be alienated. I also have a bit more self-control.

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“I would work for candy.”

Some straight lines are just too easy.

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Shumers movie Trainwreck-its almost like she stole the script from the manosphere. After being the biggest whore(making sure never to sleep at the guys place) she finally starts to fall for a sports surgeon, who repairs famous athletes. A half assed attempt is made to explain why he wouldn’t be dating a quality woman instead of taking a deep bite of the crap sandwich that is Schumer. And at the end, she has some statement about how fucking all the dudes was a necessary part of her finding this guy. Run hamster run!

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@ASD – No, you don’t have the slightest idea what Parental Alienation is, it can only be created when you are divorced and most often when a step-dad comes onto the scene. You were “estranged” from your daughter, not alienated. It’s a specific psychological phenomena that it seems you know nothing about. Also, consider that I don’t take framing advice from some spergy cunt who’s biggest accomplishment with women is getting them to dance with him. You were socially retarded for most of your life – I was not. I get it, actually speaking to women was a big accomplishment… Read more »

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“Parents want grand kids. I remember when we started a family. It made Mom and Dad so happy. The grin on Dad’s face when he was holding a grand kid in his arms was a sight to behold.” I can understand wanting grandbabies, M Simon. But she has some time, at 25. And a lot of choices, if she is that pretty. “I don’t really think women can grasp the pull of the male gaze. But as an example to you Liz… I actually recall wondering as a young teenager how attractive the Statue of Liberty should be under that… Read more »

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Everyone who responded to my post, glad you found them funny, my dream would be to do high production value skits with male and female actors, playing out these things (my fav would be the script I posted a couple months ago, with the guy who told his date that his lavish gifts to his former g/f, trips to Spain, etc, were the “old me”–analogous to the reformed slut telling her date she’s not into anal and all that now…that was the “old me” in college…foam cannons and stuff).

Wish I could find a decent actress and make some skits.

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enrique – You could start off with some low production value skits and outsource something like this to https://www.fiverr.com/categories/fun-bizarre/#layout=auto&page=1

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I haven’t viewed Amy Schumer’s movie Trainwreck, and have just caught snippets of her comedy spiel, but based on that she seems like the female version of louis ck. She comes off as redpill aware, and calling people out on their redpill-unaware hindbrain behavior, and laughing at her own foibles around that (like louis ck).

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Difference being that Louis CK is funny.

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@ Liz

Physical beauty is a handicap. BUT that’s because it so highly contrasts all the non-physical ugliness. That handicap is why some women we just want to see naked and some women we want to see again.

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@Sun – I don’t find either them funny. Louis CK’s self-denigrating schtick and the anti-masculine betaness is just too much for me to take.

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I wholly agree with scribbler on this one, Louis CK is not funny. The dude tries to make humor of his own beta-ness. He’s not even purple pill.

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I saw the movie Trainwreck and did a little review at Swithy’s a while back. Rereading this it sounds a little harsher than I’d intended. But the pain of watching it was fresh. Here are portions: All the men are SNAGs in the movie, predictably (yes, even the athletes…I think this was a stab at humor as well). The men all want to talk about relationships and get serious with sloppy fivehundredths girl…but alas, Amy is too “complex and emotionally detached” dear viewers. Plus, she’s selective and discriminating (about…er, stuff I guess…that obviously can’t include her mind or body to… Read more »

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Wild Person I haven’t viewed Amy Schumer’s movie Trainwreck, and have just caught snippets of her comedy spiel, but So you don’t know squat about her, therefore your opinion is based on nothing beyond your own projections / imagination / ego trip, but… based on that she seems like the female version of louis ck. Eh. Mebbe. I’ll let other men deal with that, since I don’t view enough video to have an opinion. Alternatively it could be that she’s a 3-rd wave poz feminist who you can pretend is into “equality”, and that strokes your ego investment, so you… Read more »

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Thanks for the review, Liz, you saved me some precious minutes. Now I need not expend electrons looking at imdb or wiki. And you know what? None of your review was a surprise to me. Must be my masculine intuition at work, eh?

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@ babbler No, you don’t have the slightest idea what Parental Alienation is, it can only be created when you are divorced and most often when a step-dad comes onto the scene. You were “estranged” from your daughter, not alienated. I looked here for a synonym for estranged: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/estranged Huh, whaddayaknow? It’s “alienated”. But just in case there’s a particular special thing called “parental alienation” I googled it. Here’s what I found on wiki: Parental alienation (or Hostile Aggressive Parenting) is a theory first popularized by Dr. Richard A. Gardner as parental alienation syndrome. Under the theory, parental alienation occurs… Read more »

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@LIz – thanks for the Trainwreck review. Does sound like a pain. I guess I’ll skip it. @Anonymous Reader I did find this pretty funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjfmODJJjVA Also, your point – “Tell us, do you find her fat rolls to be teh seXXXy? In an equalitarian, equalist, nonsexist way, of course.” Not sure what that has to do with whether she is funny or not. The poz thing, yeah – she be pointing that out big time – that we live in bizarro world, – decrepit, decadent, without self-discipline; & so over-the-top it is like a Ken Kesey’s day-glo world, all… Read more »

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re Louis CK: I want George and Richard back.

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TLDR, might be psychobabble but I found it interesting nonetheless. Concerning invading male spaces, Neoreactionsafe from Reddit made an interesting observation on the nature of female solipsism that I found interesting. Basically the female experience is completely subjective (as opposed to the male objective experience), her intrinsic experience completely resides within the sphere of her internal emotions while her extrinsic experience is solely based on her position within the social group (particularly with men). This creates a constant insatiable pathological (uncontrollable) need for subjective validation by the social group, without the mirror of the group her internal world collapses (… Read more »

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” . . . screaming in the forest . . .”

If it’s just after killing a bear with a pointy stick and just before eating its liver there might be something in that.

Otherwise, just get a heavy bag.

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@kfg – ya George Carlin was the master. I didn’t really like Richard Pryor that much – the freebase lifestyle leaked through too much for my taste (you know – mah dick, mah dick – he be playin with that regular-like I’d guess).

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@ASD – You picked this fight with your passive aggressive nonsense. The fact that alienation and estrangement are synonyms is irrelevant as Parental Alienation is a psychological syndrome, you are being such an ass. But that was your point from the start. to take a cheap shot at me – which i guarantee you would not do live. Funniest? You calling me junior and acting all tough with me. I’ve been dispensing of little dweebs like you as light work for my entire life. Get a grip on yourself and move on, you little manchild. Fyi, as for wives, was… Read more »

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Wild Person, I realize this is a harsh space for a male feminist.
But do try actually answering the question this time: “Tell us, do you find her fat rolls to be teh seXXXy? In an equalitarian, equalist, nonsexist way, of course.”

Bonus question: as an aging, male, feminist Boomer, which woman do you find turns you on more, Schumer or Yoko Ono? In a totally equalitarian way, of course.

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@Wildman – Most comedy today doesn’t really do it for me. I remember Bill Cosby from way back when he did standup when he was young, he was hysterical, routines like Fat Albert or walking home in his Phillie neighborhood and tales of his mom or dad. And oh yeah, Quaaludes aren’t rufies, you don’t lose awareness on them. Otherwise I was raped the first time I had sex cuz this hot sophomore fed me a lude and banged me silly. All those claims that he rufied those women with ludes is just nonsense. Taking a lude is like getting… Read more »

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@Anonymous Reader – I think Amy Schumer is kinda funny (harder for the ladies to pull off the comedy, but she’s not half bad), Yoko Ono – pretty sure she some kinda crazy woman. I wouldn’t mind getting mah dick inside Iggy Azalea (fuck she got a bootyful ass – so fine). And fuck she got such big swagger. That gets to me. Gentlemen – watch out for the ladies with big swagger if they got the goods to back it up – they be man-slayers (did that once already though – not doing it again – I fucking get… Read more »

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“The boner doesn’t lie, but any suggestion that (WOMEN) might alter (themselves) physically or mentally to appease the boner is an affront to ego-investments (they’ve) held for over half (their) life.” As I’m late to the party, lemme just reiterate what sensei’s just said here: Women, the FI, want to control our nature, by any means necessary…they want to tell what we like, and what to like…whether it’s what defines a ‘good’ woman, a ‘good’ relationship/marriage, what love is, why we should get feelz-boners for unattractive, fat women…this will never change… Things are reaching a crescendo now because too many… Read more »

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Wild Man…

…Muh dick, muh dick.

Thanks for playing.

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@Johnny – That was a great comment. I completely get how mixed environments stifle my competitiveness. Also the ideas about how we use social status and the outside world are genius. Update on the HB8/9, she’s asking me to email her rape fantasies so she can masturbate to them, tee hee…Wow, gaming is so much fun. If I had these tools when I was in my 20s, holy shit. Who knows how much poonanny I would have gotten? I certainly would not have been engaged at 22 and married at 24. I basically thought I’d never do better than the… Read more »

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I’ve never met a ” man slayer ” that was female and unarmed.

Most ladies are indeed swagger-less. Iggy has swagger in the eyes of teen aged girls.

Do not become mesmerized by optical illusions.

Do not apply the masculine to the feminine. That’s a job for the FI.

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@Wildman – Iggy has something special for sure but I don’t like big asses like that. Also, swagger in a woman doesn’t do it for me at all, but hey, that’s how it works. I like one thing, you like another. As for Schumer, I guess I have to admit that it’s her personality and what she says that makes her hideous to me. I wasn’t kidding, I would fuck Rollo before I’d fuck her. Like you had a gun to my head and had both of them laying in front of me, I’d rather bone Rollo up the ass… Read more »

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@scribblerg – yeah Cosby was genius when he was younger. He just sometimes mumbles like a spaz and he is still funnier than most. It just comes out of his pores. Too bad about all the drama around him now. I got no comments on that one way or the other. I never did have the opportunity to try quaaludes back in the day, but that DiCaprio movie – The Wolf of Wall Street – makes you want to go to South America or somewhere and find some ludes to find out what the fuck that is all about –… Read more »

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Lol Glenn.

I like big butts and I cannot lie. There’s just something a little off about Iggy.

http://files.shandymedia.com/images/body/hollyscoop/HS_IggyButt_01.jpg

Butt maybe it’s just me.

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Iggy wears butt pads Speaking of pop tarts, the FI can make fun of men’s idealistic love In the Ed Sheeran – Ellie Goulding breakup, Sheeran’s hit song in part: … And I never saw him as a threat Until you disappeared with him to have sex, of course It’s not like we were both on tour We were staying on the same fucking hotel floor And I wasn’t looking for a promise or commitment But it was never just fun, and I thought you were different This is not the way you realised what you wanted It’s a bit… Read more »

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redlight, it’s just another case of What Women Really Want.

Someone needs to point Goulding to It’s Different For Girls…she could do a cover of it.

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Gentlemen – watch out for the ladies with big swagger if they got the goods to back it up – they be man-slayers…

Oh, the laydies with a rocket in their pocket? Do you go for trannies, too?

Blue-pill male feminists are both funny and sad at the same time.

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@Wild – Yeah, I’m way too old for that shit but ludes were one of the most pleasant drugs I ever did, however i only did them a few times. Do you remember the famous Karen Ann Quinlan story, she was the poster child for not drinking and taking ludes simultaneousely as she ended up in a coma? Yeah, I mixed my first one with like 9 beers – but hey, I was 18 and indestructible. I haven’t had a drink or done anything but smoke weed here and there for 20 years. I think alcohol is so bad for… Read more »

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@ scribbler

I also look 40 or so and you are young enough to be my kid.

Mrs. Gamer was at least a 9 when we married.

Yeah, I’m a pussy in a fight, lol. I grew up fighting. And won my share beating up bigger kids. I was almost always one of the smallest kids. Not so much any more. But if you think it will massage your ego to beat up an old man, go for it.

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YaReally. Wassup man? I surprised no one responded to YaReally’s James Deen comment. I will take a crack at it. Porn is not real life, as everyone knows, so the outcomes are not what’s represented in the general populace. I have no idea what appears to make Deen popular. I’ve never seen him ” in action ” so to speak. But there are a handful of porn actors that work regularly, and I’d venture a guess that their earning ability reflects the company(s) they work with. So, what do I agree with? 1) A man’s height is not always a… Read more »

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@Redlight – “You wanted my heart but I just liked your tattoos”. Alpha versus Beta selection as plain as it can be. One of the things that’s jarring about the Red Pill is that now I see so much evidence of women’s dualistic mating strategy everywhere, and it’s often blatant like her lyrics. While I would see the same things before the RP it was always like that woman was an exception or a bad person or I was confused. It’s really inconceivable how deluded I was. Now I know all women have sluttiness in them and I fan the… Read more »

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@ Johnny – great find and thanks for posting. Makes so much sense.

re quality comedians, Jim Jefferies has awesome material.

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ASD is making me laugh now. I’ve seen his type all my life, fragile ego and threatened by me. It’s just bizarre. He doesn’t seem to get that he’s wrong about many things he says – this seems impossible for him to get. Just look at how he hung on to the parental alienation thing – when he’s never been divorced. He’s clearly 100% wrong here but can’t admit it. @ASD – Stop it. You barreled in telling me how to handle my shit with my daughter when you don’t understand what’s going on. Even after I explain it to… Read more »

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@Stuttie – Talk about different tastes, Jeffries is a perfect example of the shit humor out there today, in my eyes. Low energy, hard to understand, simplistic bits and he comes off like he’s half dead and has no dick. And he’s angry at hot women. Contrast him with the energy of say Eddie Murphy – he was electric. You couldn’t take your eyes off of him. And for the record, the hb8/9 i’m into now has a ton of personality. She’s interesting and deep and thoughtful. This idea that hot women are mean or shallow or bitches is the… Read more »

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@yareally,
Could you please post some videos about small digs are better than big digs?
I last heard field reports that women prefer small digs.
Re video pulling a woman’s ponytail!
I want scribblerg to do that in the subway or at a basket ball game (I like to see him at the 11 o clock news).

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@scribblerg: “I wonder if you get how weird your comment is and how weird it is of your gf to warn you about this well ahead of time?” It’s weird, I agree, but this is new to me. I’ve come a long way, but there is clearly more work to be done. My inner game is typically good one on one, but I usually screw up in crowds. I’ve spent most of my life as a loner, so the opportunity to get into a social circle is one I’d like to maximize. But there’s the struggle. If I let scarcity… Read more »

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@Blaximus 4) There’s a reason 50 bullshit shades of grey set off such a ( FI ) firestorm. Females. Want. Domination. Sometimes in the extreme. Many times in the extreme. Actually 50 shades was more than that. Let me quote from a comment on r/theredpill today: The greater the Alpha, the greater the female ego prides herself on having broken. When women show off their husbands who backslid from Alpha to Beta obedient, its in effect to say “see that ex-quaterback college/military/drug dealing stud ? The one over there changing diapers for my kid? IM THE ONE WHO BROKE HIM… Read more »

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tell us what you really think scrib lol.

google jim jefferies wife Kate Luyben. She might verify he has a dick.

maybe this is vid a better example

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@Chronical – Thanks for being open to some input. Great insight – ya gotta get a gang of men. Mine isn’t complete yet but online isn’t gonna cut it. Mine is mainly around business – real friends, but we relate around business. Other guys join shooting clubs, rock climbing clubs – men have to do something. My guy friends are entrepreneurs or in tech and we are always rallying each other and checking in and sharing our plans and wins and losses. I’m not alone. But also know this. Here is a start. You do have a community here. Comment… Read more »

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