The Tyranny of Biomechanics

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Well, dammit, I had a very insightful article warming up in my drafts folder about Open Cuckoldry (it’s still coming, promise), but I felt compelled to riff on the new Pirelli Tyre calendar photoshoot first. The calendar art is replete with a semi-nude Amy Schumer sipping a pumpkin-spice latte, “tastefully” rendered in greyscale (the calling card of an ‘artiste’ as a opposed to just a ‘photographer’) and the doughy eyed stare of a comedienne who grasps the ludicrous seriousness of how her image will be received and delivered by a feminine-centric society.

I’ll be honest, I don’t much care for Schumer as a comedian or an actress, and if you read here with any regularity I’d expect you don’t either. She characterizes, with triumphantly unwarranted hubris, everything the Feminine Imperative would like generations of women to celebrate as a victory over the evil “Patriarchy” that, by design, is never entirely defeated. In a post-End of Men society, fat, goofy women will be the banner bearers the imperative will have dance on the symbolic corpse of the “Patriarchy” that will never die or be unuseful to it.

The irony here is that Amy’s naked girth is being lauded by the usual media suspects as “brave” and “stunning”. Calling a woman of this physique “stunning” is like telling the retarded kid he actually ran the football back for a real touchdown to win the big game. Perhaps Amy is self-aware enough to realize this, but her participation in her own humiliation tells the bigger story. The fact that she rationalizes her nudes as being “authentic” as opposed to ridiculous verifies this.

Now before I go much further here, I’ll remind readers that I’m entirely aware that this “groundbreaking” photoshoot of “real” women is little more than a publicity effort, nominally on Pirelli Tyres (are they a British brand?), but mostly for photographer Annie Leibovitz and her feminist triumphalisms (she also shot ‘Woman’ of the Year, Caitlyn Jenner).

Since the inception of this blog I’ve always gotten props for the pictures I select as my lead-ins to what I’m writing. This talent is really the result of my having worked in advertising and brand development for years, and having to be the de facto photographer and photo editor for more than 20 years. Trust me, I get the language of imagery, and it’s not difficult to see the train that Leibovitz is riding here.

At the launch of the calendar on Monday, Leibovitz explained that none of these photographs had been conceived with the male gaze in mind. Williams’s photo was “not a nude but a body study”, she said, while Schumer’s was a comic conceit: “The idea was that she was the only one who had not got the memo about wearing clothes.”

The ‘Male Gaze” card is disingenuous when the stated intent of the shoot is an,…

…arty soft-core ode to pinups produced by the Italian tire manufacturer,…

The Bigger Narrative

There’s a much larger story being sold here than a fat comedienne’s rationalizing her nude form as championing “authenticity” or “realness”. What we’re observing, yet again, is the frustration of women being able to optimize their inherent Hypergamy against what our evolved biology dictates for them.

I’ve written extensively on the conflict between an idealized Equalism and human beings’ evolved predilection for Complementarity. Whenever there is a new ‘outrage’ over “body shaming” or “fat shaming”, with a Red Pill lens we can see what this conflict represents: The frustration women experience, and the anxiety of insecurity they feel when presented with the prospect of not being able to optimize their Hypergamous impulses because simple biology selects them out based on their physicality.

No doubt Leibovitz believes in her rationalization that she’s shooting artful nudes without the mythical ‘male gaze’ in mind, but she knows on a visceral level the form of every nude woman in art throughout history has been rendered with the intent of replicating a beauty that inspires arousal (thus the ode to the pin-up). The simple hard-coded fact of nature is that the form of a semi-nude woman, by order of degree, stimulates the area of the male brain associated with tool use and thereby objectification. On a limbic level, sex with beautiful, arousing women is literally a problem to be solved by the male brain.

Leibovitz gets this. In fact she banks money on instigating the deliberate contradiction that human biology poses to her own (and a larger society’s) ego-investments in blank-slate Equalism. The root of this prefabricated indignation rests in women’s existential doubt of optimizing Hypergamy. That doubt conflicts with the uncertainty of establishing a social order that will force men to act and be influenced by idealized Equalism rather than their evolved biology.

In other words, the latent purpose of this social order is to force men to comply with women’s sexual strategy, irrespective of their evolved sexual arousal cues.

The ostensible want for an ideal Equalism, or a dubious gender parity, is really the cover story for the want of 100% consolidated control over their ability to optimize Hypergamy by literally controlling the sexual selection choices men are able to make for themselves.

Schumer apparently earns the label of “real” because a few rolls around her midsection are on display – because her body is less than perfect by pop culture standards. Would she be any less “real” if she didn’t allow her body to be consumed in this way? Can’t all bodies count as “real”, no matter what they look like and who lives in them and whether or not they choose to show themselves – clothed or naked?

I find it interesting that an out of shape Vin Diesel is ridiculed for his present physique, or that ‘Dad Bods’ are sardonically described as ‘sexy’ while the over-the-shoulder giggles ensue, but what I don’t expect is for these men to be held as a physical ideal in women’s estimate. There are no photographers, male or female, shooting artful nudes of overweight men, normal “real” men of professional accomplishment, or middle linemen for exclusive calendars. Firemen with rippling abs sell very well, but “real” men? Not so much.

However the difference is that men don’t expect women’s choices of what physically arouses them to shift in favor of their physiques based on expected societal shifts. In fact, we don’t even expect women not to laugh at a naked Seth Rogan or Jonah Hill. The automatic impression is to laugh at them because they don’t come close to women’s physical ideal, so the presumption of intent must be humor. Yet we are expected to perceive a naked Amy Schumer as “real’, “authentic”, “brave” and “stunning”, and to do so with genuflection, devoid of laughter and ridicule.

The uncomfortable truth is that women have far higher, far more static and far more stringent physical ideals for men than men will ever have for women when it comes to basic visceral arousal cues. Yes, I understand there are more variables to attraction than just the physical, but we are talking about representing physical ideals in photos and calendars here. Firemen and Sports Illustrated swimsuit models are the standard order for a reason – evolved, practical, efficient biomechanics that have made us what we are today, not pop-culture stereotypes.

T-Rex Wants to Hunt

T-rex doesn’t want to be fed; he wants to hunt. You can’t just suppress sixty-five million years of gut instinct. – Dr. Grant, Jurassic Park

Sexuality, families, and men did not come about because of society. To the contrary, sexuality, families, and men are what made society possible in the first place. – Pook

These are some excellent examples of the conflict I’ve described above here. The Equalism of Annie Leibovitz – the dubious societal idealism that hopes these fundamental, biological underpinnings can be overridden by a self-defined higher order cognitivism – will always lock horns with the T-Rex that represents human biology. Annie and the rest of the prophetesses of gender equality are only, symbolically, trying to feed the T-Rex of evolved gender dynamics in the hopes he’ll stay in the paddock, behave himself and only occasionally put on a good show for the customers.

However, even in the hopes of that a contrived, idealized gender Equalism will ever pull the teeth of the T-Rex, the same evolved need women have for Hypergamous certainty informs the concept of what that ideal “equality” should look like. The T-Rex is women too.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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“Have you been to a college area bar and watched the girlies dance lately? I have, and while it’s nothing shocking to me, they don’t party like it’s 1999.” Lol AR. I must admit…no. Although I did go to Gainesville this summer and tour the UF campus I did not view the college nightlife. I remember when my Mom told me officer’s wives always wore gloves, and the new crop who have no respect for decorum were just a bunch of ill mannered whatnots. I thought she was old and stodgy. But, she had a point. People do act differently… Read more »

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I should add, I did know people like that back in the day. My sister in law was like that. When my husband and I started dating she gave us a disturbing basket filled with a weird assortment of sex toys. It was almost, kind of hostile. Her weird friends were like that too.
But, none of them amounted to much and they were really out there in the fringe “empowered wimenz” experience.

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” . . . moreso than accumulate money like the Boomers did.”

The Boomers didn’t start focusing on money until they had spent a decade or two collecting experiences, only to wake up one morning and find themselves a)dead broke b) the rent due c) no parental unit to pay it for them any more.

See The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test.

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The ultimate hypergamy is only seeing women as sexy if they are one way and not the other?
Gaming to get a sexy woman who is fit and confident, and not who you actually attract?
right?

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Your hate only makes me stronger. Keep it comin, sweetheart.

No hate. Just love. Look man, don’t beat yourself up for loving the fatties. We all have our types. It’s O.K.

Pro tip: keep a snickers bar in your back pocket. When she feels your ass tell her “there’s more where that came from.” Candy matters. wink

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@Andy

Thanks for the tips. I’ll make use of ’em when I’m tagging your wife.

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Oh snap. Not sure you could get it up. She’s way under 250lb.

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@Andy

Seeing as I was able to get it up for that dirty slut you call a mom, I’ll be fine. Don’t you worry about me, cupcake.

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The Boomers didn’t start focusing on money until they had spent a decade or two collecting experiences, only to wake up one morning and find themselves a)dead broke b) the rent due c) no parental unit to pay it for them any more. Yeah, nice story, but not really true. See The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. Uh, “some” and “all” are not synonyms. Be all that as it may, from what I can tell plenty of 20-somethings are living like musicians, holding down 2 or 3 or more part time gigs that sorta almost adds up to one full time.… Read more »

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Sun, Feel as if I’m in kind of the same spot as you. I guess my attitude though is if I’m not doing as good as I’d like, it’s on me. So I don’t get pissed about that part of it. Alpha may be a mindset but mindset can be a bitch. It’s why I stump for 101 level rules and workarounds because I don’t think most guys are capable of “getting it” fully to actualize everything, at least to get quality in the SMP consistently. Blue Pill/Red Pill is overrated sometimes, there can be a lot of learning, at… Read more »

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@!?Yareally,
I can’t believe I have to point the obvious.

The porn industry didn’t want to bring muscular fire men to act, they wanted to bring the average Joe look alike to fuck beautiful sexy women, sort of make to believe, and you know who was the first to buy it? …………..yOU.

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Scribblerg “”I could school you on that for 5000 words without looking up a thing if you like, starting with the Paris Peace talks in ’68 and the Nixon campaign””

Kissinger told me how annoying you were at the Paris meeting .

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@Anonymous Reader: “Yeah, nice story . . .”

I’m sorry, but I’m just not in the mood for impugning the reputation of your mother tonight. Lots of others seem willing to play though, so you shouldn’t have any trouble finding a partner.

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Yareally, “@keyser Soze
Still just scrolling past your name brah lol””

I scroll past a kilometer long comment like yours, but how can you scroll past a 2 line comment like mine is beyond me.
Ps,
Thanks for noticing my 2 line comment though.

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@Keyser – You brought up Kissinger, you fucking troglodyte. If only you were merely “annoying”, that would be a huge improvement. You are demented, vicious, ignorant and pathologically oppositional. Take your meds, for your own sake.

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Borat on dating women American women http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WV_dHI5Ti2Y

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@scribblerg,
Yes, kissinger, you bet your ass I like him . It’s men like him who decided people’s fate, not your stupid books, or your SCRIPTED/field reports thinking.
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@Keyser – Yeah, me and my “stupid books” – do you listen to yourself? Do you realize how anti-intellectual you sound? How low and ignorant? And color me as not shocked that a scumbag like you would be a bootlicker for a bloodsoaked monster like Kissinger.

For those who give a shit, check this vid on Kissinger where the late (and great) Christopher Hitchens lays out the case against Kissinger. Facts are stubborn things – an no, Ronald Reagan didn’t invent that saying…

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lw3B8vjIC0&w=420&h=315%5D

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@scribblerg.
What is it with you saying : fucking this, and fucking that!!!

Ps,
It seems you are, like me, gets his news / opinion from YouTube too
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t7hsQbYu3pU

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@scribblerg,
One last thing (my love).
Don’t you think it’s kind of strange to hate Kissinger’s capitalistic policy, when you are an anti left warier?

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And in case you feel like vomiting just a little bit, here’s some FI programming to feed the fantasyworld of post-wall divorcees. Notice none of these women are sitting around in stained sweatpants, eating ice cream and watching old TV shows on Netflix…It makes divorce look like so much fun – and oh yeah, the men are idiots or props, of course.

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRmyYR_L3tM&w=560&h=315%5D

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@Keyser – Kissinger a capitalist? And that means I should look the other way at his perfidy and incompetence? I know, you don’t study history and also come off like you drink a quart of scotch a day so it would be a lot to ask you to base your views on facts but here’s the shocker.. I actually know what he did around the world and guess what shit for brains? Not a single one of his “policies” was a success for us. Not a one. And since then, your great capitalist warrior has been shilling for communists and… Read more »

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@Keyser – I read books and also access other media – shocking disclosure. Of course, I have also read The Trials of Henry Kissinger, the book Hitch wrote on him. Why are your posting random vids? Fyi, the guy you published, Weiss is one of the few reporters who’s spent a lot of time on the ground in Syria and Iraq who really understands what’s going on. But if I’m to follow your lead, perhaps I’ll post a vid on the South China Sea next? Do you actually know how to form a coherent argument? And I curse at you… Read more »

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I’m eating peanuts and enjoying the show. I’m in the peanut gallery.

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@yareally and rollo tomassi, I have seen your comments and it is clear you know what you are talking about. I am very new to the game and I have been really working my ass off to overcome my inability to talk to women. As a man who has never had any role models in my life to go to in order to solve this shitty problem, there is literally no physical environment or group of people I can easily go to to fix this pernicious issue. No one I know supports or gives a shit about my pursuits in… Read more »

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I don’t mean to derail the conversation. It’s just tonight I went out, attempting to get over the rejection, I walked into the bar, and the noise, racket, and competition utterly destroyed me. So I went back home. Now I feel like hell, wondering what I can do to become good.

Now there are times where I’m wondering to myself: “Is this shit worth pursuing anymore? – What’s the point?”

It sucks. I wish there were real people in the world I could go to – Naturals, if you will – that could help me figure these things out.

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@averagechump

“. Now I feel like hell, wondering what I can do to become good.”

Keep doing it.

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@scribblerg,
Can not believe how scripted you are.
You are a moon struck.
You kill for your cause, and then you realize, you were wrong.
Ps,
Snap out of it “impulses”.
Ps2,
Dogs that barks a lot, don’t bite (can I use your vocabulary and say: fucktard.

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Scribblerg, ‘Do you actually know how to form a coherent argument? ”

Hey, adsgamer, (natural nut), you know about scribblerg’s coherent argument, don’t you?

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@averagechump – I feel your pain, and believe me that almost everyone here would have been in that place at some point. I know I have, even as recently as last night. The good news is that at least you have identified your shortcomings and are here learning and hopefully reading heaps of Rollo and CH’s Game posts….sounds like you have to a certain degree. If you hang around these parts, you will get great advice. But your problem sounds similar to mine – internalization. You really have to let your ego go and start to believe. Believe what? Believe… Read more »

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My friend was socially destroyed by guys and girls for doing porn, recently. There is a huge social stigma for doing porn. She’s been trying to date and have a BF for 3 years since and every time when they find out, they bail on her.

A simpler and more likely explanation is that she’s constantly shooting out of her league, as women normally do. If men are indeed as thirsty in general as YaReally insists they are, she should have no problem finding a normal, stable partner who doesn’t mind her sexual past.

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@Sun

Haha, had a feeling the Mom jokes were going to come out.

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My new theory is that you are retarded. The data you’ve provided so far seems to confirm it. Again, your exact words about Deen, from this thread: Because it’s not about looks or muscles or money. It’s about alpha qualities like dominance, confidence, eye-contact, sexual confidence, leading, causing emotional impact Note how he could let her just come over to him or just hold her hand but instead as soon as he takes her hand he yanks her into him so she’s off balance for a split second and catches her, then goes into a pin against the wall…he’s a… Read more »

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@Average Chump: “What does a man have to do to overcome the anxiety experienced in these loud social settings?” If you want to train for a 500 lb. deadlift, you don’t just throw 500 lbs. on the bar and start yanking at it. All you’ll get are fucked up shoulders and back that way. You start by experimenting to find the weight you can do 5 reps in good form with and work that weight until you can do 10. Then add enough weight to the bar to knock you down to 5 again. Rinse and repeat. Change venues. Find… Read more »

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@hoellenhund2 Since you are retarded, let me fix your post again for you: His extraordinary sexual skills did not prevent a former sexual partner from accusing him of being a sadistic, violent rapist and ruining his career in the process. So, what’s the story here? You’re posting huge walls of text here about the benefits and effectiveness of having a proper Red Pill mindset and attitude. One should at least expect such qualities to have the effect of giving women incentives not to treat you like shit. Right? That must mean that Deen did not have a proper and complete… Read more »

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@scribblerg “Yeah, I was only focusing on the porn, not the camgirls” “As for doing it for fun, well, i’m just not sure about that” I mean, you can load up the webcams and see for yourself. I named a couple sites, there’s thousands of them on there. Just open one up and watch for a bit and you’ll see a lot of the girls are just having fun on there. Some of them are doing it just for the money, sure, but like, just watch it. I saw one girl who was getting off and her hubby comes in… Read more »

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Big ol’ reply to everyone in mod. Watch this spot <3

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““When my husband and I started dating she gave us a disturbing basket filled with a weird assortment of sex toys. It was almost, kind of hostile. Her weird friends were like that too.” “disturbing” “weird” “hostile” toys…you sure sound fun in bed. lol There was a scene in Six Feet Under (maybe this is before your time), where Brenda received a gift basket from her brother filled with sex toys for her and her fiance, Nate. Nate held up one large floppy dildo and shook and and said, “This is just hostile…what the fuck?” That’s exactly what it was… Read more »

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I appreciate the responses and the advice. Tonight I plan on going out a bit earlier, see what’ll happen. I also think I might go out week nights as well. Maybe they will be less hectic. From time to time I do get IOI’s (a long glance and smile), but I haven’t yet figured out the ability to turn an IOI into an opener, or an opener into a solid attraction building conversation. I also realized keeping eye-contact is a weirdly difficult thing to do. And there is so much PUA theory to memorize that I doubt anyone proficient at… Read more »

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@Liz “Nate held up one large floppy dildo and shook and and said, “This is just hostile…what the fuck?” That’s exactly what it was like.” So you DON’T like large floppy dicks? hey asd you might have a chance after all @averagechump “And there is so much PUA theory to memorize that I doubt anyone proficient at game actually thinks about these things while going out. They’re probably having fun, or on autopilot or something that they don’t have to think: “Shit, what opener do I use? – Which routine? – Should I push or should I pull?”” We were… Read more »

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@KFG – So well put. Keep trying and learning. Game, like all new skills and abilities yields to effort. I’d ask guys here who are struggling to consider for themselves how much time they spend approaching versus reading blogs? How much effort do they put into self-improvement versus reading about he Red Pill? As an aside, this is the only blog on the web I participate in with any regularity. I don’t spend time on any other manosphere sites for the most part and don’t regularly participate in other online communities. I used to and realize that doing so was… Read more »

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@scribblerg “One thing I’ve realized is that I need to have another strong plate to offset Kim, the HB8/9 so I don’t supplicate without realizing it” First thing to do when you get a girl is get another girl lol One girl will give you oneitis, especially if you break the rules and see her more than once a week and do non-sexual stuff with her (cuddling, hanging out, watching movies, dinners, coffee, lunch, etc). This is why in a pLTR setup I recommend one Primary and two Secondaries instead of one Secondary. One would make it a tug of… Read more »

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Kendra Sunderland of Oregon State in Corvallis, 20 year old college dropout[1] camgirl – if she’s not a prime example of the girls YaReally sees in bars, if she’s not a walking Field Report, who is? Yeah, her future-time orientation needs work, and I’m doubting that many camgirls over 25 are out there, the intra-sexual competition there is surely as fierce as in other areas of life, but…there it is. This is an example of the night life scene in 2015. Note the part of the interview where her Facebook blew up with likes? There’s her solar system of beta… Read more »

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testing how to do *bold* bold for an epic comment I’m doing, delete this Rollo lol

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This Kendra library webcam chick is a fuckin’ GOLDMINE of what we’ve been talking about, it’s like she’s somehow read this comment section today and gone back in time to do this interview, I couldn’t stop laughing her answers are all just PERFECT…This is the culture of 2015 summarized right here lol http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/kendra-sunderland-oregon-state-library-girl/ Choice quotes: “A few weeks before filming the video, Sunderland was broke. She had just lost her job at the diner where she worked. She was considering dropping out of college, where she majored in human development. The way she tells it, a friend of hers from… Read more »

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Hey, adsgamer, (natural nut), you know about scribblerg’s coherent argument, don’t you?

I feel loved.

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@ya – great stuff. FYI. Already have another plate dialed in I fuck her 1-2 times a month and do shit like give her blow job training sessions. So kim is number 2 but is engaging me far more deeply of her own volition. She’s already agreed that polyamory is okay. She is a pLtr possibility. She likes girls and knows I like girls who bring me girls, lol. I’m swinging for the fucking fences. Will see her when I’m in nyc this week so it’s always every couple of weeks. It’s by far the most interesting project I’ve hD… Read more »

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@ YaReally

So you DON’T like large floppy dicks? hey asd you might have a chance after all

I feel AMOGed. lol

Who the hell cares about a floppy dick?

Hard, not lard.

Liz likes clever shit. I remember her comment claiming to be an expert about men’s thinking machines…that we wear in our pants…mine isn’t working right, so if she could pop over and put her expertise to work on my thinking machine she might find that I just need a good screw.

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@ YaReally I have some old business. Remember when I laid a cellphone open to New Contact in front of a married broad (MB) because some other broads were hijacking my world and moving her away from me? tl;dr Creepy busybodies scolded me for something that never happened, threatening to exclude me from group activities. (ZFG) My asking for contact info wasn’t even mentioned. So there was minimal pushback. The group’s leaders are boring, overprotective white knights. I’m not planning to sign up for their hiking meetups. I have plenty of other options. One of those busy body broads and… Read more »

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@Scribblerg “Very few girls are making 500/day my porn girl knew half a dozen girls doing it” “but you are speculating yourself.” Literally, go to Chaturbate and just click a few of the girls and watch the tokens rolling in from users as the girls get themselves off. I don’t know why you’re so reluctant to just load the site. I don’t even know what leaderboards you’re talking about, you can see in the chat what everyone is tipping as they tip it. Just go to the fucking site, you’re like a guy telling someone who’s using a DVD player… Read more »

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@theasdgamer I mean, what did you expect to happen? lol you got cocky and decided you were above “the rules” of the game and shit all over her ASD and social judgement and whipped your phone out in front of everyone. Felt like a boss in the moment, great story to tell to brag, but now you have consequences because you ran back game even if it worked to get the number and her interest. Now you have drama and potential cockblocking to deal with that you wouldn’t have had if you had kept your ego in check and just… Read more »

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“Lots of people at the vineyard (especially MB) were doing silly shit. MB was yelling, “Woohoo, no pants” . . .”

Is she by any chance related to TK?

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@scribblerg Interview with that library webcam girl in mod. In the pizza clip mentioned in it she sets up a Skype session with like 5 people to watch her and her boyfriend who dumped her but is still coming over and smoking pot and wants to bang her on webcam (funny how that was left out of her sad sob story interviews lol) and she totals everyone’s donations up out loud as she’s writing them down sorting out who’s invited into the Skype chat (putting those accounting skills to good use lol) and the total she makes while just eating… Read more »

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@Scribbleberg: ASD advising a playyah how to game? Ummm, probably not a good idea. You are right that deliberate alienation of affection by a vindictive harpy ex is not even in the same planet as a disaffected child from an intact marriage. I have seen your story before about your daughter and it makes an impact every time. Fucking Briffault’s Law in spades and not any amount of game is going to make up for it. I wish her only the worst. @YaReally: Holy smokes, “Choke Game” is going to be added. I just now had a stupid argument with… Read more »

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@AverageChump: “I haven’t yet figured out the ability to turn an IOI into an opener, or an opener into a solid attraction building conversation. WTF? You haven’t figured out how to walk up to a girl and say “Hi, my name is [dumbass] I noticed your [whatever you want except how hot she is]. Is that really to much to memorize? So what if she freaks out, groans, or nuclear rejects. It’s an opener. Fake the confidence before you realize how easy it really is. I have an assignment for you I give to married guys at Level 7 Dread-… Read more »

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IAS, “Regarding the less static ideal of female beauty, how true is it that chubby women were more ideal in the past? I am unsure if that is factually correct. Some Greek statues or classic paintings depict women that are certainly chubbier than the current ideal woman body shape, but there are also some thinner women sculpted / painted throughout the ages. There is probably an effect that wealthier women afford to order works of art based on them (who I guess are statistically more likely to be chubbier), whereas not as many painters themselves were affluent enough to get… Read more »

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Is she even a three? Is she even a woman? Lena seems to revel in being anti-feminine and then jamming it down our throat. I would rather fuck Jackie Gleason than Lena Dunham. And of course. this is how she looked for a Planned Parenthood gala.

http://s2.gossipcop.com/up/2015/12/Celebrities-Planned-Parenthood-Solidarity-300×265.jpg

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@Thelion, IAS So basically they had a bit of ‘buffer weight’ rather than being overtly obese, just as a way of signalling high status. Likely this was also not necessarily an entirely sexual ideal. I mean yes, they’re meant to be sexually appealing, but the point of the pictures was more an overall sense of edification and glorifying the subject rather than pure titillation of the audience. Couldn’t go implying that the woman in question was in any sort of material want, even if that may have (hypothetically) made her a bit hotter to male viewers. Re: the (relatively) small-ish… Read more »

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From a site for camgirls. The best girls can make 100hr regularly but in reality those same girls have shifts where they make nothing and also make 20-40/hour. http://ocamgirl.com/how-much-money-can-a-camgirl-really-make/ Here’s another successful camgirl telling her experience and she says if you are really willing to work it hard, you can expect to make 200/day. http://www.confessionsoftheprofessions.com/webcam-model/ You are cherrypicking high end earners, just like in the world of strippers. Yeah, 1 in 100 strippers make 3000 in a weekend but most girls make maybe a couple of hundred per shift after the fee and payout etc. Stories are just stories. But… Read more »

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@kfg Whoa, those pictures are mind blowing and very inspirational. When I think of 50 and 60+ guys, I could only ever imagine them getting with young twenty somethings if they had some amazing, wealthy lifestyle. Looking like that though, I could imagine seeing them rolling in a club picking up twenty somethings and not thinking it’s weird. In my head, I’ve been thinking for a long time “yeah, I’m finally starting to get some of my self-improvement stuff handled, but my time is short. Once I hit fifty, I’m not going to be able to get the hot girls… Read more »

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First off, in just a few hours the quality of commenters and commentary has risen dramatically, nice and thanks everyone. Super interesting stuff. My plans cancelled for the night so I’m chillng and may be around a for a while. @BluePillProf – Thanks for the kind words and understanding. But here’s how much I’ve evolved, I have nothing but love for my daughter. She was made to be who she is by her Mom and had no choice. She didn’t consciously choose to see the new guy as her Dad, that was her reality. I’m not angry at her mother… Read more »

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@Ya – Of course I went to the site. Do you even know what a “token” is worth on Chaturbate? 100=5 bucks and the girls have to give some of that up. I watched some chick just ream her ass for about 4 dollars, lol. But whatever, I don’t really care about this, it’s boring.

Let me ask you a more serious question. How do you interpret the stats/studies which show young people havling less sex, not more? And that the “hookup culture” is restricted to a small pct of young people?

http://time.com/88092/hookup-culture-myth-study/

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Regarding the study referenced in the time article, they used data from households, and then: Using the GSS weighting variable COMPWT allows parameter estimates to represent individuals rather than households, by adjusting for the number of adults in the household. GSS is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Social_Survey The problem here is they ignored the bias of using what one adult willing to be surveyed in a household would not necessarily be representative of young adults in total. For example if they interview Dad, he is not likely to give accurate information on the sexual experiences of his daughter. Another problem is that the GSS… Read more »

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Hello Rollo, I didnt find your email so I just ask here; Is there a possibility to translate some of your works into Finnish? I’ve been following your blog for a couple of years now. Seems like the situation is parallel to USA and men need more information of what is going on. We got a couple of “manosphere” bloggers here but they are not quit good as you.

Greets, -Rami from Helsinki

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Field report
Went to a new dance meet a HB9.8
Spoke about shakespear asked her out an a date. Been attempting to avoid internet buffers hurt my burden of performance.

Will sleep with the slow grueling progress I’m making.

I love dancing.

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Ha hah, no no. I mean I’ll do the translating for my blog and forums. Basically you get free promotion for your book. 90% of the population here has pretty good English.

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@Rollo Tomassi
http://www.finlit.fi/fili/en/grants/

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Thank you, Ill send you analysis later on how this project grows. If it gets lots of readers the publishers here might contact you and ask the rights for Preventive Medicine. Also if you are interested I can try to organize you into some of our seminars here through my party (local nationalists, The Finns party). Keep the good work going on! smile

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Well I let myself get behind on office work so here I am working on sat night. Except now I’m not even doing that lol, y’all interesting bastards. Scribblerg, good articles. I know you said you were done with this but lemme tease this out a bit. Suppose the articles are accurate and fairly representative. The 200 dollars a day girl is a bit vague, since she only makes reference to time put in per week, but suppose she’s talking about 30 hours a week over 5 days, giving us about 33 dollars/hr. The other article says a ‘bad to… Read more »

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@Thelien: “The rare wealthy women who had nude or semi-nude portraits were of course idealized too. This is Diane de Poitiers, mistress of the King of France, painted in her 50s” So idealized that the Lady Diane has had herself portrayed as the Goddess Diana. I rather suspect that there’s at least a hint of feminine arrogance mixed in the with the idealism in that one. “When I think of 50 and 60+ guys, I could only ever imagine them getting with young twenty somethings if they had some amazing, wealthy lifestyle.” @Pellaeon: “When I think of 50 and 60+… Read more »

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in case you missed it, since it was in mod, yareally discusses library girl:

http://therationalmale.com/2015/12/01/the-tyranny-of-biomechanics/comment-page-5/#comment-130332

wow, just wow

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speaking of the wall, Saturday Night Live and the Settl Dating Site commercial tonight

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@Kfg I earned my first hater on this site when I pointed out that I was (statistically) 60 years old (+/-) and to all outward appearances was a penniless musician with nothing to my name but some raggedy clothes, Oh shit, was that picture you posted of you? I admit that I skimmed a lot of the comments on this thread- I thought you were just throwing something up that you googled or something. If that’s you, I am definitely interested in meeting you as well, if you’re open to it. My email is my posting name, underscore, and then… Read more »

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@Forge the sky
“The cool thing about the red pill is, those aspects of human behavior it explains are the ones that remain constant given changed circumstances.”
That’s the closets to men I think I can hope for in 2015
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Zx0tvNAi8
Goodnight brother may your work get done and new lessons be learned.

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“Oh shit, was that picture you posted of you?” No, no, that’s bodybuilder Jim Morris. I’m a power to weight ratio endurance athlete, a getting the most from the least type, especially upper body. Arms don’t do much to make a bicycle go faster. After I make my attempts at some 65+ course records I’ll bulk up a bit while I consider whether it’s worth it to go after the 75+ world hour record. I don’t doubt my ability, but it’s an officious pain in the ass, and an expensive one. In terms of aesthetics, put me down as an… Read more »

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Mini FR: Was at the bar tonight, farted around a bit with some HB3-4 chicks out of boredom (just no hotties at this place normally or tonight), wound up playing darts with a gay dude. Debated gender politics while we played, dude kept staying around despite my utterly pissing him off. Reason: “Because you’re pretty hot” Christ, if only I could get that reaction out of attractive women. In Canada for the next week, and unfortunately no fucking where near Toronto. Turns out I’m visiting an acquisition based in a small town in New Brunswick. *sigh* I’ll be back in… Read more »

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@Sun: If you think there’s an obesity problem where you are, just wait until you get east of Quebec. The coast is some serious sea mammal country. Go figure. If you meet a wee lassie who appeals to you, play it safe and assume she’s under age until proven otherwise.

On the other hand, they can have really good fiddle players out that way, so if you have a taste for traditional dance music it needn’t be total social loss. And try to grab as much transit time in Quebec as you can. Lovely place.

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Wild Man
December 3rd, 2015 at 12:03 am

Addictive nature? Most likely PTSD.

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“@kfg
Whoa, those pictures are mind blowing and very inspirational.”

Was that actually a 77 year old in the photo?
I showed it to my husband and said, “This guy is 77!”
And he patted me on the head and said,
“Of course he is. Everything on the internet is real.”

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December 5th, 2015 at 8:27 pm

Is she even a three?

It varies. The Ovaries on the shirt are a dead give away.

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this is the Settl Ad:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/settl/2949238

if you are stuck in a small town in New Brunswick, you might need to use software that pretends you are in the US

from the ad:

I already bought my wedding dress, so I just needed a groom. I joined Settl, and went on tons of okay dates. That’s how I met my Henry. He may drive a SmartCar, but he’s a manager at Petco, and he even has a 401k! We’re getting married in April, which is before my sister

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“Most girls won’t do it of course bc of morals/lack of sexual openness, and their basic needs are met anyways.”

Hope of any respect, hope for a professional career some day, concerns over personal security….

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Liz
December 6th, 2015 at 8:30 am

Girls are nuts. #1 Daughter has a degree in ChemE. Near the top of her class in a top school.

She wants to be an actress/model. Because of respect, professional career, and personal security. And ChemE guys are too nerdy.

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M Simon, I don’t think a modeling/actress career is sensible, but I don’t think it has the potential security risk that videotaping oneself masturbating on the world wide web to anyone and everyone does.

By the time a person obtains enough publicity as an actress or model to have that level of security risk, they can typically afford to live in a gated community and have some personal protection….unlike, say, living in the student ghetto and posting videos of one’s face and body online.
Cost to gains wise, it doesn’t seem wise.

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@Liz: He isn’t just some guy claiming, or being claimed to be, 77. He has a public history in bodybuilding.

Born August 31, 1935
Mr. USA 1972
Mr. America 1973
Mr. International 1974
Mr. Olympia Over 60 1996

And still going strong. The photo was taken for a recent interview.

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Thanks, kfg.
That is fucking amazing!!!!

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And if one isn’t already on track to have that much public face as a model/actress by 24 years old, one is pretty much already out of the running for that.

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@Redlight – Ah hah! I have a background in survey research and wow, thanks for doing the digging. Clearly this is a very weak sampling strategy, and sadly, given the times we live in, an intentional one designed to give us the result the SJWs seek (as common as peas in social research, as we know). Folks here without any background in this field would be shocked at how bad the sampling strategy of much survey research is, leading to be invalid and unreliable. Again, thanks. I also found those results really head scratching as see a very different vibe… Read more »

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@Forge – You managed to articulate what I was trying to get at so well, in fact, in the future maybe I’ll just send you an email with my hamfisted rhetoric and ideas and let you post, lol. Spot on. However, note the above comment from Redlight – the survey is shit. But the point is well made nonetheless and we have to be very careful about over-fitting the Red Pill onto our social scene. And just because I’m not quite done with my third cup of coffee and I don’t feel like doing the tree work I need to… Read more »

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I once agreed to take a survey for a guy doing his masters thesis in sociology (I had the time and, at the time, it amused me). About half way through we hit a question that obviously had a very loaded premise and I refused to give the answer he clearly wanted. I argued with him about the validity of the question, which was key to his whole project, and after about 5 minutes of not being able to get me to play nice he got so frustrated that he crumpled up my form, threw it in the trash and… Read more »

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The continued decline, into insanity, of western societies. F$ck schumers (the comedian and politician), obama, ash carter, the pentagon and the j-media.
All of the above are just another reason to leave and deny them their tax cut of all future earnings. Buy a ticket, move to a place with: 4%+ annual gdp growth, hot broads. Don’t come back.

@ ads n scribblerg: nice bitchfest ‘guys’

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I was working in an important section of the government, and we get tasked to prove that a certain policy is good. So we make a few assumptions, and provide the definitive proof that the policy is good and send it upstairs. It comes back down saying no, we wanted the policy to be bad. So we make a few different assumptions, and provide the definitive proof that the policy is bad. The “bad” policy is replaced, changing the lives of millions of people.

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@Sun Wukong December 6th, 2015 at 3:24 am A man’s got to adapt to the circumstances. Did you get the gay dude’s number? What about after carefully vetting him turning him into a beta orbiter of you and using him for a wing-man? He probably is social, can carry on a conversation, wing for you and not steal the girl. (And Law #13: uncover something in your request, or in your alliance with him, that will benefit him, and emphasize it out of all proportion. He will-respond enthusiastically when he sees something to be gained for himself). Just make sure… Read more »

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Lesson is: play to win, not to have good stories to tell. Since winning for me is having stories to tell (for my book), this was a win. Where I actually messed up the morning after was sending a msg to the group leaders saying “WTF was I thinking lol”. That started their fishing expedition. I told a couple of girls (one young and one old) about the request for contact info and neither one thought it was any big deal even with the girl being married and the drama and they said that it was none of the leaders’… Read more »

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@Bob – Fuck you too.

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@Sun – I just had to laugh at your FR, wow, talk about a bad run. Was the gay guy at least a 7 or better? Only consolation i can offer is this. I seem to only focus on the positive outcomes of my gaming and don’t even remember all the times I fail. And even then,I focus on the positive aspects. Example, yesterday with the college junior, the deliciously cute Giselle, I couldn’t isolate and get a number. Is that a fail? Nope it’s a victory, even though maybe it really isn’t. I reinforce the positive and let the… Read more »

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@scribblerg Heh, well, he was in his early 20s, definitely a bottom, and kept eating up Alpha behavior on my part like any chick his age might so… yay for small successes? Looked like a guy gay dudes might find attractive. I have no idea exactly what they dig though, so I have no clue where he’d rate hahaha… @SJF You make a good point, this dude just didn’t seem like much fun as a wingman. Vegan SJWs are kind of obnoxious that way. I’d think if I was going to try and have a gay wing, I’d want one… Read more »

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