Your Mission, Her Mission

Does your woman think of you before herself? 

Does she make your priorities her own priorities?

Does she surprise you with acts of kindness and appreciation?

Does she inherently know that your success is her success?

Does she admire you? How does she show it?

Does she know what you need before you know it yourself?

Does she plan ahead to ensure you’re taken care of?

Does she care to know who, not just what you are?

Does she take time to learn about or participate in the things you are passionate about?

Does she look forward to having sex with you?

Does pleasing you please her?

Does she do any of these things with genuine desire or is she fearful of your displeasure?

Or

Is your woman ‘high maintenance’?

Is pleasing her or avoiding her discomfort your mission in the relationship?

Is your relationship defined by how well you measure up to her expectations?

Is your woman’s success more important than your own?

Are you the sentimental one in the relationship?

Do you plan ahead to ensure she’ll be in the right mood?

Do you perform chores in the hopes that it will make her amenable to you sexually?

Do you believe your relationship is (or should ideally be) an equitable one?

Does her family take priority over your own at holidays?

Is your relationship based on quid pro quo?

Is she ever surprised by your anger?

Is your relationship perpetually a “work in progress”?

Is your relationship’s success defined by qualifying to her metrics?

Do you measure the quality of your relationship by how well you meet her needs?

These are tough questions for most guys. I’m often asked how to vet a woman for a relationship or marriage and the hard part of coming up with a list of qualifications is that you have to actually be in a relationship with that person to really judge a woman’s suitability for a long term commitment. Hot sex is a great ‘up-sell’ for women to convince a man to commit, and it’s usually at the top of a guy’s list of must-haves for his commitment, but you don’t really understand her motivations or genuine desire until you are already in a relationship. Now you have emotional investment in her (caught feelings) at the same time you’re realizing she’s really not the person you thought you were vetting her for.

The ‘Asshole Alpha’

A hard thing for most Blue Pill, Beta men to appreciate is the genuine desire a woman has for an Alpha man. When that guy sees a relationship that’s based on a woman’s dedication to please her Alpha man, his Beta Hamster goes into action. A lot of things don’t line up with what he’s been conditioned to believe about women and how a relationship should go.

His first presumption is that the Alpha guy is a ‘manipulative asshole’ and if he ‘respected’ her she would be better off for it. It’s certainly not how he would treat her. Default respect for women plays well for a Blue Pill mindset. If you read through my first set of questions above the most common impression a feminized mind will have is that I’m implying a woman ought to be beholden to an Alpha man. While it’s true that, ideally, a solid conventional relationship is founded on a man’s ambition and success, and his woman sharing that mission, she has to want to be a part of it. Forcing a woman to be a part of a man’s world is actually the methodology of a Beta man.

Monogamy can occur either because a female chooses to be faithful to a male, or as a consequence of a particular lifestyle.

Promiscuity, Tim Birkhead

Exploring the Desire Dynamic has been a key feature in all of my writing. Understanding that genuine desire cannot be negotiated is usually one of the toughest parts of the Red Pill to accept when a guy is just coming into it. It’s hard because most men already realize the principle; they’ve just been building lives around the contingencies, and forming deep rationales, to avoid accepting it. I have readers tell me all the time that what I put forth in my books and essays is stuff ‘they already knew in the back of their heads‘, they just didn’t have the words to articulate it. Your relationship sucks, or your marriage is soul-destroying not because you can’t seem to live up to a false ideal (which is true), but because your woman has no genuine desire to be a part of your world. Modern marriages fail, not because of trust issues, or security, or even ‘her needs not being met’ – they fail due to a lack of genuine desire.

Most women today are in monogamous relationships as a consequence of a particular lifestyle.

Blue Pill men have a hard time with this as well. A relationship based on a woman’s choice to be faithful to a man, based on her genuine desire, looks a lot like what he’s been taught a lopsided manipulative relationship is all about. The prime-directive of feminism (the female Blue Pill) is that a Strong Independent Woman® should “never do anything for the express purpose of pleasing a man.” Part of a Blue Pill man’s lifelong conditioning is to think like a feminist woman thinks.

Most Blue Pill men are male feminists by default. Whether they vocally identify as one is largely a formality; Blue Pill men think like feminist women, because their social education came from feminist women.

When a Blue Pill male encounters the rare conventional relationship – one based on a woman’s genuine desire and a man’s Frame and ambitions – and he sees a woman doing things for the express pleasure of an Alpha man, his first impression is that she is with him by coercion. That conventional relationship model doesn’t fit with what his female teachers taught him was the egalitarian ideal. Thus, rationalizing that a beautiful woman would only feel obligated to please an asshole is because she has low self-esteem, she’s forced to please him because she’s destitute, she’s codependent, he overtly uses Dread on her, etc. This becomes his ego defense of his Blue Pill conditioning. His default presumption is that she is with that guy as a consequence of a particular lifestyle. It never enters his thought process that she is with that Alpha by choice.

Objects of Desire

Most men are uncomfortable with being the object of genuine desire. Even the idea of having a woman do something inspired for his express pleasure makes them feel like they’re falling into the role of Asshole Alpha. Promise Keepers in particular hate this impression of themselves and will go to great efforts to quash it in themselves, by deriding it in other men.

If you read the first list of questions above and thought, “Damn, that sounds harsh or manipulative. What about her needs?” this is your Blue Pill training coming to the surface of your consciousness. Just the thought that, as a man, you might ever be truly desired by a woman gets conflated with ‘abuser’ status. Either that, or the first consideration is to default to Bank Slate thinking – “What about her?” This is the egalitarian, presumption of ‘equal-and-opposite’ as the ideal thinking. 

Most Blue Pill conditioned men, and virtually every Fempowered woman, defaults to “What about her?” as their Mental Point of Origin. Guys do this because it’s been hammered into their brains since grammar school that ‘putting women first’ is the surest way to gaining their intimate favor. As such, the idea that they might ever ‘come first’ with a woman becomes an alien thought to them. Not only that, but they see the hypothetical Alpha I mentioned above as the villain to defeat in order to prove his quality. That ‘quality’ is based on his ‘putting women first’, so an Alpha Asshole becomes a golden opportunity to display how well he’s learned his Blue Pill lessons from his female teachers.

Without the Red Pill, without the insight to question his conditioned belief-set, this mindset is impossible to break in a guy. For the most part he’s attached his Game – his hope of solving his reproductive problem – to that Blue Pill, Village training. Some guys may never break the cycle. They never see the code in the Matrix. Most men fall into a grind of constant qualification to women because they have never, and will never, be the object of genuine desire of a woman. Their mental models prevent them from ever being that object to a woman. They would feel awkward, dirty, for making anything about them.

When a man’s Burden of Performance can be directed towards qualifying himself to women, men will begin to conflate their masculine identities with how well they can ‘put her first’.

The religious Trad-Con mindset revels in this, but the ideal comes from the same source – feminine primacy. Directionless, purposeless, men find a purpose in making the pleasing of a “quality woman” ideal the metric by which they measure their manhood. The Feminine Imperative figured out how to make women’s security the measure of a man long ago. It was written into men’s sense of duty and his Gods’ will. They must become less so she becomes more. It didn’t always used to be that way, but since the advent of romantic love as an ideal, it’s been the game men were told they had to play. And now, men’s natural competitiveness is channeled to outperforming his rivals in how better he can serve the Feminine Imperative.

IV. Don’t play by her rules

If you allow a woman to make the rules she will resent you with a seething contempt even a rapist cannot inspire. The strongest woman and the most strident feminist wants to be led by, and to submit to, a more powerful man. Polarity is the core of a healthy loving relationship. She does not want the prerogative to walk all over you with her capricious demands and mercurial moods. Her emotions are a hurricane, her soul a saboteur. Think of yourself as a bulwark against her tempest.

16 Commandments of Poon, Roissy

I can make appeals to men to make themselves their Mental Point of Origin, but few actually wrap their heads around the concept. Fewer still will give themselves permission to do so. The reason for their difficulty is that their reproductive success was pinned to the Blue Pill mindset they’d had beaten into their psyches a long time ago.

The equal partnership ideal is antithetical to how men and women evolved to be complements to the other. That ‘equal’ partnership is predicated on a man endlessly proving his dedication to ‘putting her first’ that his hindbrain believes will lead to a woman’s genuine desire for him. His hope, his understanding, is that if he works at his relationship long enough, if he puts her first, eventually she will appreciate him and desire him based on his efforts and performance. But it is just this priority in his life – the priority he’s linked to what little sense he allows himself to have of his manhood – that defeats his ever getting to that state of a woman’s genuine inspired desire.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

152 comments on “Your Mission, Her Mission

  1. Wahoo – thanks for playing. you can go back to your two seater building.

    The vast majority of UMC folks are earning an income. They do not have wealth. Income growth is flat across demographics and outpaced by costs.

    SJF is an example… He is essentially providing a personal service. It’s not scaled, it can’t be passed on. Once he sells his practice, for a modest multiple, poof! that’s all folks. Try not to spend too much in Naples this winter…

    Do the math… Let’s say his kid who is 28 gets a J O B that pays $300k a year. Well in five years kindergarten is going to run somewhere around $20k per kid and high school will be nearly $40k a year. What’s that high school gonna cost in 20 years? What’s that private college that costs $60K a year today gonna cost?

    What will his wage be? His take home after taxes? His club dues?

    SJF doesn’t care. There’s Patriarchy for you.

    Blax

    One job loss away from catastrophe, taking second jobs, stuff like that. It helps if someone,.anyone else can just write checks but most working people don’t have it like that.

    Exactly.

  2. Culum!!!!!

    ( I always smile when you post up bruh, lol )

    “And I was a socially introverted nerd who grew up in an uber-sheltered environment that was every bit as UMC as yours (a bit more diverse in terms of experiences – I lived abroad for some time etc, but still). I didn’t grow up having fights like Sentient and Palma and Blax and so on.”

    Lol. I didn’t grow up in Mosul having to battle from street to street daily.

    https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960×0/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fimageserve%2F811188274%2F960x0.jpg

    Thing is, I grew up in a city that was 3 square miles, but had a population of 150,000 people ( since declined to under 65,000. Shit changes.) and just like SJF loves where he is, I loved growing up there.

    But when you put that many people in that space, you will inevitably run into what seems like and inordinate amount of dickheads and assholes. But the distribution is probably on par with the general population at large.

    Now I live in a city that’s 26 square miles, with roughly 290,000 people, that swells by 10’s of thousands more every day between 6 a.m. and 8 p.m., depending on what’s going on at the Prudential Center ( hockey, concert, 19,000 seats ).

    Point being, you run into all kinds of people with all kinds of dispositions, and imo you must be able to navigate and assert yourself. Being kind, understanding and nice works about 75% of the time. When it doesn’t you will probably have to go another way.

    “College (first time living by myself) was a total culture shock. But even I got into a few scuffles in college – mostly with one friend who knew exactly how to push my buttons, plus a bar confrontation gone awry as freshmen when a few of us had our asses handed to us after one of us (the same guy who I would get into fights with a couple years later) mouthed off to the wrong guy at the bar and he and his friends decided to teach the college kids a lesson. We got away with nothing more than bruises thankfully – it could have been worse.

    I’m no hardened street fighter but it sure taught me a sharp lesson about the “real world” out there.”

    This is an important revelation that young men need to learn. there are people walking around that give absolutely No Fucks about you, and the sooner you run across them, the better life will be in the long run. It makes one appreciate others, even the ones that might try to take your head off.

    Iron will always sharpen Iron.

    “Same goes for how society is declining btw. I am really struggling with how you cannot see that – perhaps if you only read the New York Times or other mainstream stuff you may not notice – but here? Way out of the mainstream, with a bunch of guys you’ve known online for years trying to make you see?”

    Lol, this is a conscious decision. Like how I dislike asparagus, so in my world, it just doesn’t exist. In produce sections world wide, I can ” not see ” asparagus at all.

    If you live in certain areas, it’s easier to ” not see ” things, but it’s dangerous to not be aware. When I need a mind break, I go to rural Virginia where life is 100X slower and 1000X less ” stressful “, and I relax and fish.

    Once on a trip to North Carolina, I was chatting with a sheriff. He saw my N.J. tags and asked me about ” Gangs and the problems ” they present. He asked because suddenly Charlotte was besieged by gang activity, and everyone was stumped about what to do about it. I could look into his eyes and tell he’d never cope with the problem because he’d never imagined the possibility.

    But Crips and Bloods have been around well over 50 years. Insulation is never a guarantee.

    SJF is a good dude that I like interacting with a lot, but it seems to me that he believes that he’s untouchably financially and geographically insulated from the rest of society, so paying actual attention is counterproductive to his optimism. Generationally, things are going downhill fast. My kids, as SJF would say, are fine – but they still have to live in current conditions.

    Remember what I said earlier about people that Give No Fucks about you? I do not know how anyone can completely avoid them. My oldest daughter lives in a wealthy, gated, guarded community in Cali, and recently she had a couple of large checks stolen ( and deposited in another account no less ) from her locked mail box.

    Her shock lasted about 30 minutes.

    And I’ve spoken about my youngest daughter’s assault a couple of times. In an airport that routinely has cops with AR-15’s and dogs all around.

    The best thing you can do is to be mentally prepared and understand that anything can happen, unless you manage to wall yourself off somehow.

    And that’s gotta be internalized.

    Even this guy got his ass handed to him a few times, and he’s not even real.

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/fb18c7fae89eba7df3adc05dd73868c9919e3abb/0_131_4000_2400/master/4000.jpg

  3. Sentient” thanks for playing. you can go back to your two seater building.”

    Already there thanks to WIFI.

    The thing you are missing with your math is the changes in priority from one generation to the next, coupled with the possibility that there may be another way you haven’t been sold on yet. I wonder if you will find a way to capitalize on the latest fad.

    From what Iv’e seen the growth in extravagance across every demographic has reached peak and it’s time to push back from the table and stop gorging before it causes health issues. If you boys can’t see what SJF is saying maybe you should take a vacation in Iowa.

    I like what Roused said about listening to his son and hearing what is different in that generation.

  4. “SJF is a good dude that I like interacting with a lot, but it seems to me that he believes that he’s untouchably financially and geographically insulated from the rest of society, so paying actual attention is counterproductive to his optimism. Generationally, things are going downhill fast. My kids, as SJF would say, are fine – but they still have to live in current conditions.

    Oh and Blax I love what you have said over the years in regards to masculine style. A whole lot. It is very valuable. I’m not the slightest bit dissembling. Oh, and Umm, Sorry? I can’t convince you of anything.

    Geographic location is a choice. And even though I’ve bragged about financial health, I never ever believed it was financially untouchable. Even if I built it up by myself. (Except for the $30K my mom helped me with in the 80’s. And she loved her investment…And I don’t actually know– family secrets and all, but I think she’s worth $5 million. I know she was at $3 mill ten years ago. And was all in on equities. And she’ll probably live longer than me. And I’m not counting chickens.)

    No one is insulated from any disaster. Including medical health problems. We’ve all had them and so have our friends. I came across some candid photography pictures I took 13 years ago when my son was 13 and playing basketball with the local team when he was 13 years ago. I had a candid picture of the wife of the coach and a separate husband and wife with their other couple kids. Sitting casually on the sidelines. And I paused to reflect on the wife of the coach and the other father are no longer with us due to lung cancer and leukemia, respectively. And my wife mentioned a couple months ago: We know a lot of people that got cancer. My reply: It happens. Any physician of 30 years would tell you the same. Shit happens to all kinds of people, all the time. All laid out in a row. The good the bad and the pretty and the ugly.

    My thesis is that it is not hard for one man (after practice in their life) to get through the stages of denial, anger, bargaining and depression. And accept anything that is thrown in the road in front of you. What other deal does one want to make, short of that? Why not?

    Culum wants to not accept that some fucker in a bar wants to fight? Or that he has trouble turning on go mode in PUA. Normal human behavior to be overcome. No offense Culum. And thanks for the incredulous reply about fighting. Everyone in large groups always fights. It’s called in-group malice, but not really. Ego invested people fight. In fact, the only reason I’m getting into this back and forth discussion is because of that. I was wanting to grapple. I don’t have anyone to punch in real life, so I figure I can do it figuratively, online. Umm, Sorry? I grew up in, and selected for groups that were out for in-group altruism. Admittedly, at times it was luck. But so be it. We still selected. And we do select.

    The best thing you can do is to be mentally prepared and understand that anything can happen, unless you manage to wall yourself off somehow.

    So. That is actually my thesis. You said it. I believe in it. And yet I did it, when I reflect on it, retrospectively. (I ended up where I am. I like where I am. And it’s not by accident.) I would advocate for men to do it pro-actively. Other men can do it when they realize the value in it. Even by old fuckers telling stories. So that is why we are here.

    Let the games begin. It’s called do the work. Actions matter, words don’t. I didn’t actually sit back and relax all my life. Go figure.

    “A discussion on resolve, how it frames everything you do. Sometimes, you have to just work harder and sacrifice more to get the same success the natural talent does.”–Rian Stone video video thesis, the following::

    (Hint: Put settings on 1.25 or 1.5 playback speed. Rian talks in good, slow in masculine style…)

    https://youtu.be/qu8m05yxVfE

  5. Culum

    “Anyway one of my biggest concerns about my future kids is how to teach them to survive and thrive in an uncertain world and give them the “street” (for want of a better word – but it’s about much more than the literal street) awareness and skills and risk management abilities they will need in an uncertain and declining world despite being in the UMC wealth bubble (suggestions welcome..).”

    This is a hard(er) aspect to tackle.

    Awareness is very hard to ” teach ” by word.

    Growing up, we used to play a game called ” open chest “. If you managed to walk up on a guy/friend ( participant of course ) and caught him off guard and unaware, you punched him in the chest as hard as you could while shouting ” Open Chest!!!”. You only had to get plowed in the sternum a few times before you became hyper-aware of your surroundings and people close by. Unbeknownst to us kids, over time playing this game made it damn near impossible for anyone to sneak up on you.

    The same lessons apply to life in general, as there will always be people who are trying to ” sneak up ” on you. It could be in business, or financially, or physically, or even mentally.

    My approach with my kids/girls has been to talk to them from birth and in both cases before birth. Both wives complained that when they were pregnant, and I was around talking, the babies started kicking. Lol. When they were little babies, I had an extremely close relationship with my kids. I talked to them all the time, and I listened to them just as much. As they grew, I talked to them much like I’d talk to an adult, and I made it a point to never, ever lie to them. Not even about Santa and the Easter Bunny, lol.

    At some point, I could talk to them about Life Game principles. About how to read people ( which is harder with girls because they are a bit distracted by ” things ” running around in their heads ). I’d find 10 different ways to relay my experiences to them, honestly. I fed them, changed their diapers, and rocked them to sleep whenever I was home. As they grew, I didn’t chastise them for expressing what was really on their minds. I didn’t judge as much as I occasionally corrected with examples, usually from my own life.

    Ex: Once my youngest daughter asked me , ” What’s the deal with drugs and alcohol”, and my wife tried to wave me off from answering like she was landing Mustang on the deck of a carrier in WWII. Lol. But I answered honestly. The answer was the same one my father gave me, and it served me well – ” I’m not going to tell you what to do wrt drugs and drink. I’ve done a few of both. Just understand that you can do a little bit of a lot of things. You can drink without being a drunk, you can sample certain drugs without being an addict. Heroin and crack are completely out of the question. Nobody grows up thinking they’d like to be a 90 pound drug addict – but there they are.”. She nodded. I said ” you got one body and one brain, and they have to last you in good working order. drugs and alcohol are perceived by your body as poison. Hell, if you drink an obscene amount of water you could be hospitalized or in the morgue. The word of the day is : Moderation”.

    Then I showed her a picture of her great grandfather and told her ” he died drunk in the street. Had a stroke but his liver was going to give up any time . shit like that kept me from over-consuming. he died a year before I was born and I never met him. He’s always been a photograph “.

    I shared her first drink with her ( I don’t really drink ). A ” fireball “. She hated it and went to wash her mouth out, lol.

    Deep down my wife isn’t a big fan of my ” openness “, but she understands the rules. I’m not some silent bystander. I’m responsible as a Father, not just an ATM or taxi service.

    I’m mostly confident that she’s ” aware “, but she’s still a girl. Even now at 20, I’ll still grab her in a headlock from behind without notice. Lol. I taught her from a youngster how to get out of these things, and she has fairly good skills upclose. That works best for her as a girl – work the ribs and kidneys, then the head. Hard to sneak up on her because her peripheral vision is very good.

    I think all of these things over her entire life dampened fear. Other than Pennywise the clown, she’s not really frightened of much. Pennywise fucks her mind up.

    This means she engages people and stands up for herself without being overbearing or pushy or masculine. Delicate balance.

    Oh, and even though I talk to her as an ” equal “, I let her know I’m not a friend or a pal, I am her Father. It’s my job to prepare her for life, with it’s ups and downs, and neither one of us has any alternative in the matter.

    So we talk all the time. YaReally made the unfortunate comment about ” our daughters blowing them in the bathroom at the club” or some such nonsense. He didn’t understand ” Father “. I think the idae that he didn’t know what a father was, was more insulting than the whole ” blowjob ” thing.

    Which brings me to my final tl;dr thought-

    Society is down on fatherhood, unless they want to blame you for whores and mass shooters. Then it’s all ” father’s ” fault. The good news is that you can distance yourself from all of that outside noise. Any woman that receives your seed has to be vetted for an ability to understand the import of a father. You have to have final say in most real things. You can’t fight society outside of the home, and then your wife/mother of your child inside the home. This is more important than I can stress. ” Outside ” must remain outside.

    So you teach them and talk to them and test them and love them unconditionally. And you give them rope, confident that they won’t hang themselves with it. Expose them to everything you can, safely. Hopefully by the time they are grown, they will never be taken aback by life.

    Imo, raising kids is the most important thing a man will ever do. It is not easy ever, and it’s not for the faint of heart
    there are an assload of variables you can’t see beforehand, and at times you’ll have to steel your resolve and push forward whether you want to or not, or if your just plain tired.

    You’re ” Dad ” until you die.

    Even afterwards..

  6. Nice soliloquy, Blax.

    On a separate note, I also feel Culum can re-group with the essence of Command Presence.

    Outside of Game, it has made a difference over a couple years in the professional realm, for me.

    Like Blax’s comment showed, and what is know in the community, dominance and leading are important.

    And the term Command Presence stands as a symbol and name for those.

    Instead of a passive combatant, you are an active leader.

    It’s little things here and there. Little benign orders–sit here,stand there…Do this, do that for the betterment of everyone…

    Rollo didn’t flesh it out too robustly here, but it is a start:

    https://therationalmale.com/2011/12/01/command-presence/

    There is more too it in work and in play and in parenting–as Blax spelled out very well.

  7. The only safe relationship is the one you are not in. Women are “strong and independent” right up until the point they have to spend their own money. Add to the above image, A nice home $, A nice car $, Jewelry $, Hor$e$, Motor vehicle ticket$, Insurance $, child support, medical expen$es, groceries, vacations..useless gym membership and the coup de gras I.V.F uck you over treatments after they have let their opportunity for motherhood waste away and at age 38 gotta have a kid panic attack that will lead to 80-100k worth of debt and no child from it, OR maybe paternity fraud and you end up paying for somebody else’s kid cause she was out playing on tinder. Do you know how many married women I see playing on dating sites and their hubbies have no clue ?. Oh wait, I’m wrong you say ? She is a career woman, maybe a professional, a CPA, network administrator, some big title ? Let me tell you how many women time their “getting fired” just right so they can get a free ride on your dime after a few years… Downsize to maybe a part time gig for their starbucks and panera money because “they cant take the stress”..while you get a second job and are so exhausted to have any sex, even if they wanted to, so they can stay home and watch 12 hours of TV every day packing on the pounds..Every single one of my friends has called me and has asked “how the hell did you know”?.. after I warned them…You are not married ? Talk about the grief trying to get rid of one of these sponges after they have “established residency” in your home or apartment..let alone survive the destruction or the fabricated domestic violence charges when you finally try to extricate yourself from such a nightmare… Maybe you are in luck and have video and audio of the crazy and you get off without any jail time and fines ? What if you do not ? Yeah good luck. She will end up taking half your shit if you are married and or ruining your standing in the community if she does not.. Your youth is finite, your energy and resources are finite. Do not waste them on a relationship that depreciates by the day. Build your business, stay single. RETIRE early to some backwater and enjoy your life free of entanglements that would other wise ruin a good man. The money you save you can go to various locations around the world and enjoy a temporary relationship with very willing and generous women. Smart men I know say they do do not even talk to any American / western women period. On their down time they plan a destination, have fun for a week or 2, and never talk to another aMErican woman again. They do this 3-5 times a year and live a happy life.

  8. Wahoo

    The thing you are missing with your math is the changes in priority from one generation to the next

    Yes now the UMC are prioritizing food and shelter over education. How about that?

    From what Iv’e seen the growth in extravagance across every demographic has reached peak and it’s time to push back from the table and stop gorging

    K-12 education as extravagance? Are you arguing my side now?

    Today’s UMC is not Grampa’s UMC. Easily observable and provable.

    [Of course for you wanna be country/ folk singers you can also throw in the MC and WC. But please at least have some hooks in your songs]

  9. Smacking my head.

    I was just listening to a talk radio show.

    And it never occurred to me before.

    A concept: Fear of the loss of something.

    I never actually had that before. That fear. But it must be crucial or critical to the back and forth that I’ve been engaged in the discussion with Blaximus. And others.

    I’m not lying. I never thought about it.

    I never actually had fear of losing shit. Maybe it’s an intellectual defect or problem. Maybe not.

    It would solve for the financial debate.

    My wife, my money, my children, my stuff, not harvesting a deer, having the latest weed crop get half lost to bud rot (heh, Walter White).. I don’t like to lose. But I actually don’t have the fear of loss.

    Same as engaging with women. I just don’t have it. The fear of loss. My wife just had the mother of all menstrual periods last week @55 y.o. And that’s probably the last one in her life. She’s scheduled for a remove the uterus and ovaries next month. Because of fibroids. She does do the hormone stuff. Suzanne Sommers wise. So there’s that respect for me. And she’s still attractive. More so than me.

    (I went through a phase a year and a half ago, where literally all the appliances and the furnace and the air-conditioner, and the garbage disposer, and dishwasher went on the fritz. And the good clothes washer and dryer vent and appliances before that. Hey 20 years down the road. I have to admit those losses were stress-full. All that thinking about how to finance it too. Oh, and then forking over dollars to pay for my daughter’s wedding. I had to fucking sell my Google stock for 35K on a cost basis of 6K. Because I have only been working 19 hours a week. For like 10 years. But it’s all in a days work. So I picked up a new job in the ghetto. For $1K a day…)

    “Twenty years now
    Where’d they go?
    Twenty years
    I don’t know
    I sit and I wonder sometimes
    Where they’ve gone”

    Shit happens and you are bound to lose your marbles. Thanks for all the reminders, guys…

    And where does that leave you and your mindset? Right here, right now, right?

    One thing that I learned from the manosphere is that it leaves me with my own two feet on the ground. And that is all. You stand on your own two feet. She does the same. And it works out.

    Nothing more. Nothing less.

    I’m adding drama to the point. But the point is: I never actually thought about having to lose shit.

    The talk show I was listening to was about a guy calling in that was divorced in his forties. And he was worried about his 19 year old girl-friend going into the military and he was worried about her going exploring her possibilities. Lol. Go figure.

    Oh, and by the way, who is this ‘Reck and Feck’ guy that never comments? And pops up as coming on line. And doesn’t know how to view in Incognito Mode? I heard a rumor that it was ADJ.

  10. “And doesn’t know how to view in Incognito Mode?”

    I take it that you don’t know that Incognito Mode only affects your own computer. It doesn’t record browsing history so that other users of the same machine can’t track where you’ve been going.

    The only way to make your computer incognito to the Internet is to disconnect from it. If it don’t know your address, it can’t send stuff to it.

  11. I take it that Rollo has employed a feature that announces when someone views his blog. Splashing on screen and all.

    My point is that this guy, ‘Reck and Feck’ keeps splashing on the screen as viewing the site. But never comments. Who is he?

    The splash on screen doesn’t occur in incognito mode.

    I take it that you have some way to view someone’s IP address log-in. So be it.

    I take it that Rollo had a melt-down around this whole thing one or two months ago. With all kind of conspiracy theories and that fag, incel from overseas– Johan Liebert or something.

    But carry on. Never mind.

  12. “I take it that you have some way to view someone’s IP address log-in.”

    Yes. That’s what happens with a log-in. URLs are “fake,” a convenience established to make life easier for users. You can access a server by typing in its address rather than its URL. That will skip the hop to the server that maintains a translator of URLs to addresses (the Domain Name System name server).

    In order for two computers to communicate over the network they must exchange addresses, commonly referred to as a “handshake.” This is recorded in a log file. Incognito Mode tells your own computer, and only your own computer, not to log the handshake. The other computer will continue right along doing whatever it is that it normally does, i.e. log the handshake. YOUR incognito mode has NO effect on any other computer. At all. Period.

    In order to connect to TRM you must provide identification and that identification will generate a popup and there ain’t a damn thing you can do about it.

  13. “In order to connect to TRM you must provide identification . . .”

    Getting sloppy there between “connect” and “log-in.” I’m supposed to be asleep at the moment and might be part way there.

  14. SJF

    It would solve for the financial debate.

    Yeah. No, it doesn’t.

    I’ve walked away from mid seven figures… Because I couldn’t brook being fucked with.

  15. Sentient

    “Yes now the UMC are prioritizing food and shelter over education. How about that?”

    Sounds bad,there is a guy scalping toilet paper for $20 a roll on face book. With all the different food scares (GMO’s,soy,steroid ,antibiotic,CWD,mad cow and the GSM crop losses) only the people that can afford access to information and selective consumption will prioritize food. The shelter concern I don’t get on the big picture, demand for housing is high around here as this area is booming. There is a shortage of qualified builders for a number of reasons, the main one is attrition coupled with a youth that doesn’t have work ethics. This is a large part of increased housing cost for the UMC.

    “K-12 education as extravagance? Are you arguing my side now?”

    Never had much use for it myself,rather I was referring to material extravagance.

    “Today’s UMC is not Grampa’s UMC. Easily observable and provable.”

    Grandpa owned an orchard farm and was a member of the country club,the one with the swimming pool the size of a lake planted in the midst of 18 holes. He bought into that for his retirement entertainment.Early on the management class lived in separate neighborhoods from the working class but nothing near as fancy as the average bedroom community of today. You could fit three middle class homes from the 60s inside of one from today.

    “[Of course for you wanna be country/ folk singers you can also throw in the MC and WC. But please at least have some hooks in your songs]”

    The working class live in poverty that outshines the middle class of yesterday. the middle class is shrinking due to the former and the UMC are self justified.

  16. For all intents and purposes the middle class is dead.

    Depends on where one lives as to whether they can comfortably survive as working class. We’ve gone to a service/consumer economy, and that’s a bad look long term. You have to build/make stuff. It’s a small part of why trading on wall street was halted this morning as airlines and cruise ships and hotels/resorts are taking hits because of fear of covid19, and oil prices fall because less demand. Planes and ships use lots of fuel.

    So how does the working class afford a 50 dollar can of lysol?😁

    This too shall pass, and we Will learn nothing at all.

    My home was built in the 1920’s, and it’s true that you can fit 3 of my house in my sister’s house that was built 10 years ago.

    But I’ve never been able to grasp the indifference to the fate of the working class and middle class. All that debt. Credit used to fill the earning gaps. 30 year mortgages, 7 year car loans, college costs going through the roof…. Wtf are we doing??

    Bezos is probably gonna lose another few hundred million this morning. Hope he’s going to be ok. Sarcasm off/

    My earnings barely push me into umc territory, but I live in working class/lower middle class/retired area. SJF mentioned fear of loss earlier. I think that’s a symptom of the service economy. I don’t have any fear of losing anything. Maybe one starts out that way, but time and experience will beat that notion out of you. There’s nothing to fear.

  17. @Blaximus SJF

    been sort of following along on your discussion…lol… got some time so thought i’d comment…

    ” A teacher once told me, “He who walks through turds gets turds stuck to him.” It was a warning to be careful who we associate with because bad habits are contagious. “

    this is partly true… but only if 1) you don’t understand that ‘turds’ are sht…lol… and 2) you don’t know how to wash that sht off you… (pun intended…lol)…

    if you associate with people that are ‘making bad choices’ you tend to be painted (by ‘society’… which includes your hindbrain over time…) with a broad brush… and you will be more likely to make those same bad choices/bad habits… that’s just a function of reality… folks don’t always have solid frames… they tend to go with the easy… bc easy…lol

    the flip side of that is that you can’t influence people to make better choices, if you are not around them…

    People can overcome their circumstances. It happens all the time, every single day. Your parenting doesn’t sentence you to death conclusively. It’s a generality, not a guarantee.

    true… it’s not your fault you were sht on as a kid… it IS your fault if you don’t wash it off (when you finally figure out what the ‘sht’ actually is…) and choose to wallow in it… it’s literally never too late…

    re parenting stuff…

    i think the basic goal is to teach your kids what that^^^ (sh*t) is… what it looks like in action/IRL… and how to ‘wash it off’/deal with it/keep it out of your life… ie ‘make good choices’…

    re ‘having to fight’…

    i’ve had a remarkably uneventful life wrt to physical conflict…lol

    i haven’t really had to punch anybody… mostly…lol

    except for that dude i probably killed in college…

    and the times dudes were sizing me up on the street to maybe rob me (they always seemed to have some divine inspiration (most likely some good survival instinct…lol) that saved us all some complications…lol)..

    and being lucky enough to not get caught in the middle of 3 of the 4 gun fights that happened in front of my apartment building when i lived in the more ‘economically challenged’ area of town (not a participant… just bad timing…lol… but the rent was cheap…)… the gun fights (that i knew about…lol) happened bc (i found out about 3 months into my stay there) that my building was on the same block as the city’s ‘open air drug market’…(best logistics to sell to the suburban folks on their way out of downtown after work…lol)… AND was right on the border of three different gangs’ turf…lol)… it was a high-conflict area…lol… even the cops stayed out for the most part…lol

    and all my ‘non-conflict’ included doing my laundry every other week on thursday night at the local wash-o-rama… with all the gang-bangers getting ready for the weekend…lol… mostly i was the only white dude in the place… and considering the amount of red and blue in evidence, it was conflict-free…mostly…lol… mostly black and asian gangs…the closest latino gangs were about 6 blocks over… but it’s kind of hard to be a hard-*ss when you’re folding up your tighey-whiteys…lol

    Point being, you run into all kinds of people with all kinds of dispositions, and imo you must be able to navigate and assert yourself. Being kind, understanding and nice works about 75% of the time. When it doesn’t you will probably have to go another way.

    +1…

    but i’d put it at 98%…lol… that^^^ (my lack of conflict) was some luck… but mostly just understanding that people are doing the best they can… no judgment… but also an expectation that those guys aren’t going to make my life harder… unless they have a reason…lol… and then, by understanding that reason, i can set up a win-win situ… usually…lol…

    And I’ve spoken about my youngest daughter’s assault a couple of times. In an airport that routinely has cops with AR-15’s and dogs all around.

    one of my better lessons of the world is that that^^^ sh*t gives people a false sense of security… law enforcement is not meant to protect you…lol… only to punish perps AFTER the fact… IF they get caught/convicted…

    The best thing you can do is to be mentally prepared and understand that anything can happen, unless you manage to wall yourself off somehow.

    And that’s gotta be internalized.

    +1…

    Young men will have a harder time because of what they know and believe. Those things alone allows them to make things harder on themselves. It almost renders them unreachable.

    true… they have a built-in buffer of ‘you’re just an old man… you don’t know what it’s like… it’s different today!…’…lol… plus they have some brain development issues too… their brains don’t get to maturity until about 25 years or so… if they make it that far…lol

    Try talking a Blood out of being a Blood. Every single one I’ve every talked to have their own vision of how tough everything is, while not understanding that they and people that think like they do create and perpetuate all that toughness.

    that’s gonna be a tough sell as long as affirmative action is still in play… and most of those guys aren’t ready to give up playing tag all day…lol

    For all intents and purposes the middle class is dead.

    true… unfortunately…

    but the ‘middle class’ was an historic anomaly… you can only have a middle class in the absence of slave labor…

    Depends on where one lives as to whether they can comfortably survive as working class. We’ve gone to a service/consumer economy, and that’s a bad look long term. You have to build/make stuff.

    +1… that wealth creation is the ONLY way any economy can survive… folks like to eat…lol

    It’s a small part of why trading on wall street was halted this morning as airlines and cruise ships and hotels/resorts are taking hits because of fear of covid19, and oil prices fall because less demand. Planes and ships use lots of fuel.

    this loss of control by the global ‘elite’ (bankers) started back in the late summer/early fall… i have a theory about the covid19 being the cover for the collapse… but what do i know…lol

    So how does the working class afford a 50 dollar can of lysol?😁

    you don’t need lysol…lol… don’t listen to the propaganda…lol… you just need a blood plasma level of selenium over 98… vitamin d and vit c won’t hurt you either…lol…

    and wash your d*mn hands!!!…lol

    But I’ve never been able to grasp the indifference to the fate of the working class and middle class.

    that’s bc we identify as part of that group…

    and given the cluelessness/misunderstanding/un-caringness that the ‘elite’ have regarding the overall system dynamics, it doesn’t surprise me at all… which doesn’t change how that indifference will collapse the system though…lol

    All that debt. Credit used to fill the earning gaps. 30 year mortgages, 7 year car loans, college costs going through the roof…. Wtf are we doing??

    mostly it’s just people taking the easy path… mostly…lol

    My earnings barely push me into umc territory, but I live in working class/lower middle class/retired area. SJF mentioned fear of loss earlier. I think that’s a symptom of the service economy. I don’t have any fear of losing anything. Maybe one starts out that way, but time and experience will beat that notion out of you. There’s nothing to fear.

    i covered this before in one of those responses to @Culum… the liberals don’t understand why THEY get paid so much…lol… so they have a justifiable fear that it can’t continue… bc it can’t …lol

    they just make it worse by going ‘more liberal’…lol

    good luck!

  18. The photo used for “her mission, your mission” is a screen shot from the Netflix show “love is blind” the most red pill reality show ever in spite of itself…. You should check it out

  19. Sentient

    Exactly. During hurricane Sandy my house swayed back and forth, but I only lost 3 roof shingles.

    The downside is that if this almost hundred years old wood ever catches fire, there’s not enough water in the state to extinguish it.😁

    My sisters house is basically constructed like a small warehouse. Just a big assed box. It has all the charm of a bent rusty beer can.

  20. Palma

    There never was a middle class, just working and upper…

    Don’t worry, we are working very hard to get there…

    Blax

    what we have more and more is a simulacrum of progress, meanwhile everything is worse and worse.

  21. The market here has been looking for a ” correction ” for well over a year now. Treasuries pointed to ” recession ” for a while also.

    I’m with HABD. Corona is the excuse for market side correction of overinflated valuations.

    Even oil prices ( a harbinger of death when too high or too low ) are more related to a pissing match between Russians and arabians. But it’s more acceptable to look at supply versus falling demand related to the virus impact on travel and hospitality serviices.

    Elon Musk lost 4 billion so far.

    Hey he was never really ” worth ” that in the first place.

    Irrational exuberance, as Greenspan once coined it.

  22. @Palmasailor

    @Sentient

    “Don’t worry, we are working very hard to get there…”

    You might be able to make enough money / wealth to get into it over there, but over here you have to be born into it.

    Money and success alone won’t get you in over here. You’ll never be accepted.

    it’s the same everywhere… born into or married into…

    kfg covered this before when bill gates was ‘turned down’ for entry into the ‘elites’ by not being able to marry into that class…

    and even if you ‘marry in’ you still might not become ‘part’ of that class… (cough… megan markle…cough…)…lol

    @HABD

    “this loss of control by the global ‘elite’ (bankers) started back in the late summer/early fall… i have a theory about the covid19 being the cover for the collapse… but what do i know…lol”

    You can’t just drop that in and not elaborate!

    lol… sure i can…

    but i won’t…lol…

    covid19 is an engineered virus designed to be a bioweapon… it was created in the US back in 2015…

    (and the stated goal of the chinese planners in 2015 is (was) to use a bioweapon to depopulate the US)… but if they used nukes, the farm land would glow too much…lol… and can’t have THAT!!!…lol)

    so, covid19 is either an accident or on-purpose release… but it was designed to de-populate/kill people…and spread easily…

    if on-purpose, it’s not likely a chinese .gov release bc they don’t have a vaccine for it (supposedly…lol)… and they weren’t set up to handle it… that’s why they are scrambling…

    (and note- that bill gates is a big proponent of de-population… and a .org he funds had a hand in some of the research into corona virii…)

    here’s a good backgrounder on the virus development… (where i got a lot of my material for review…)

    https://capitalisteric.wordpress.com/2020/03/08/coronavirus-blunt-truth/

    at least two groups had it… the chinese (at the bl-4 lab in wuhan) and the deep state (at the U of NC at chapel hill lab… where it was built…)…

    sooo, who released it in wuhan?… and for what purpose? (not that it matters…lol)… bc it was released in november 2019… the chinese weren’t ready for it… so unless it was an accident (or some lab worker got a bug up her butt… and made the decision alone), it was released by non-chinese .gov…

    and how did it get to the US?… a deep state functionary (obama appointee) cleared infected americans to ‘go home’ in direct violation of presidential order…

    pandemic is the perfect cover for economic collapse… AND to try to stick it to Trump’s re-election… watch the spin coming out already…

    up to that point (the release), the fed was pushing the ‘QE that’s not a QE’… and no takers (essentially)… overnight repo lending was non-existent without fed ‘backing’…

    also, china was hurting economically… their system was due to implode soon anyway… which would have taken out the west’s economic system as well… just like now with the pandemic… for the same reasons…

    check the graph under ‘risk’… watch the pattern… small spike… small recover… small spike… small recover… just like clockwork… then sept 2019… BIG spike… with the corresponding need to push back BIG…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repurchase_agreement

    couple THAT with the panic to get gun control in place… and that the deep state is unravelling with some of those sealed indictments being opened and prosecuted now… thousands of ceos from big companies are ‘retiring’… etc…

    the ‘elite’ are in panic mode… and a couple of months is enough time to liquidate/re-position without rocking the market… then, once it breaks open, the elite still have ‘control’… or at least some short-term profit…lol

    sooo, blame it on china… easy, peasy… so what if millions die…lol

    either way, deep state or chinese accident/op, the result is the same… the genie is out of the bottle now and given the math, eventually everybody WILL be infected… it’s just a matter of time… and the health system will be over-taxed… etc…

    still practice good hygiene…

    wash your d*mn hands!!!

    lol… but just expect it eventually…

    keep your immune system healthy and you should be fine… blood plasma level of selenium at 98.7 or better (easy if you eat meat/eggs/(a couple brazil nuts a day)/etc… vit d and vit c and zinc won’t hurt you either…

    I have a “coffee date” with my son by the way.

    that’s great!… hope it works out…

    at least one silver lining from the pandemic…lol

    good luck!

  23. Historically speaking, stuff isn’t necessarily done by ” the deep state”.
    It’s just not widely known, or worse, not believed.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

    When tptb decide your life ain’t worth shit, protect your neck.

    My doctor gives me shit for not getting a flu shot every year. I last had one 6 years ago. It sounds crazy, but I don’t trust shots. I don’t want to be a part of an ” accident “.

    I haven’t had the flu since I was 16.

    Maximize your immune system and strengthen your body.

    Anne understand risk and take your chances.

  24. @Blaximus

    Historically speaking, stuff isn’t necessarily done by ” the deep state”.
    It’s just not widely known, or worse, not believed.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

    those dudes WERE/are the ‘deep state’…lol…

    When tptb decide your life ain’t worth shit, protect your neck.

    true…

    My doctor gives me shit for not getting a flu shot every year. I last had one 6 years ago. It sounds crazy, but I don’t trust shots. I don’t want to be a part of an ” accident “.

    that’s where i’m at… plus the ‘filler’s’ bad for aspergers dudes…

    except i haven’t had one in over 15 years…lol… i had a sore throat last year when i ate too much ice cream/candy/cake/cookies/other crap over the holiday season…lol…

    I haven’t had the flu since I was 16.

    the last time i had the flu was when i got the shot…lol

    Maximize your immune system and strengthen your body.

    Anne understand risk and take your chances.

    +1…

    vit D every day and eat healthy… vit c and zinc won’t hurt you either…lol

    good luck!

  25. Your mission get good head ,her mission stay healthy.

    Complimentarity

    https://www.vix.com/en/sex/528200/swallowing-semen-can-do-these-5-things-your-body

    “Did you know that women who swallow semen are 40 percent less likely to develop cancer? I know, I was just as shocked. This is because semen, aside from having many nutrients, contains selenium which is one of the elements that’s most used to fight against cancer.”

    And now it helps prevent the spread of covid19

  26. @HABD: so you think COVID-19 is a lite version of Dan Brown’s Inferno book?

    It isn’t super lethal from what I can make of the info. 2, 3%, kids mostly asymptomatic, mostly kills weak or older people. The 2, 3% figure might even be an upper bound considering a lot of the people that get it are asymptomatic (but presumably contagious).

  27. Brilliant Comment/Sentence

    This was obscured by the “Read more”:

    Anonymous Reader

    The “strong, independent women” who are on multiple mood-altering compounds / drugs are by definition neither strong nor independent. That girl Palma refers to – her hindbrain would be in better shape if she’d gotten knocked up 4 – 7 years earlier and pushed out a couple of babies. She’d have mommy-anxiety that’s grounded and limited rather than free-floating anxiety basically over ghost stories that she tells herself.

    This last sentence is one of the most brilliant sentences I have read on TRM:

    She’d have mommy-anxiety that’s grounded and limited rather than free-floating anxiety basically over ghost stories that she tells herself.

    Even though I “study” this stuff it gave me an aha moment.

    Kudos!

  28. @PalmaSailor

    @HABD

    “and even if you ‘marry in’ you still might not become ‘part’ of that class… (cough… megan markle…cough…)…lol”

    The child of the married in gets in – but only just

    true… but ‘in’ is in…

    “covid19 is an engineered virus designed to be a bioweapon… it was created in the US back in 2015…”

    Got that bit, but didn’t know 2015

    ya, that kind of surprised me too… from some of the stuff i’ve read, it doesn’t seem to accommodate a ‘vaccine’ response either… else the chinese should have one… and maybe they do…

    “if on-purpose, it’s not likely a chinese .gov release bc they don’t have a vaccine for it (supposedly…lol)… and they weren’t set up to handle it… that’s why they are scrambling…”

    Hmmmm.. unless they released it knowing they weren’t set up to handle it. There’s an awful lot of them. Plenty of spare ones. except the ones that were set up to handle it. -> Plausible deniability

    that’s a solid branch of the analysis tree… and given that people are being burned alive that’s more likely…

    but i can’t believe that jinping (or anybody at a high level of ccp) would authorize that… given the overall risk to their economy (and themselves… unless they have a ‘tested’ vaccine…and remember, the last vaccine they tried for sars was worse than the virus…lol)… but there has been enough time to develop one and test it… provided the virus is not mutation friendly…

    remember these are the guys that cut people up for body parts as a matter of policy… if they wanted to ‘reduce’ their population, they could have just done that… without messing up their economic output/manufacturing… so, i don’t think it was official chinese .gov decision…

    so that leaves ‘accident’ or ‘other’…lol

    “blood plasma level of selenium at 98.7 or better (easy if you eat meat/eggs/(a couple brazil nuts a day)/etc… vit d and vit c and zinc won’t hurt you either…”

    So now we’re there, it’s all just a plot to kill off vegans and boost the trade of Chinese restaurants- chicken chow mein and egg fried rice.

    lol… i think it’s more a function of communist/socialist bureaucracy…lol…

    and a misunderstanding of basic biology… biowarfare operates on the principle of ‘infection’… overwhelming a person’s immunity function (basically)… there is no way a system with 3rd world nutrition/immune function (ALL communist/socialist economies) is going to ‘win’ against a system with 1st world nutrition/immunity… even with happy meals…lol…

    there is no way to ‘contain’ an outbreak of a contagious virus… not even with chinese communist control structures… unless you nuke the area from orbit… ‘just to be sure’…lol… but even then, it’s still getting out… look at all the “we don’t really know how [test subject] got it… he has no known contacts to anyone infected…”… like it’s just magic…lol

    @HABD

    So to conclude – WHY have the “elites” lost control?

    Is it bc they have reached the limits of bullshit money?

    It’s all been diluted beyond recognition and so much of it moved to the top that there’s nothing left at the bottom to “re distribute”?

    that’s a good short-hand way of stating it… but you are blending concepts… more pedantically…

    there is just not enough wealth being created/produced…

    the fiat currency is only able to ‘access’ wealth that is for sale… that means the wealth has to be in existence/created… if it were just about the ‘money’ side… the .gov could just give more of it to people at the bottom… the problem is that there is less production as the economy moves further towards ‘service’ and away from ‘industrial/manufacturing’… at some point you get to where the curves cross (and diverge) on the graph and the system fails… just like wiley E waiting for the drop… at some point he actually drops…

    we are on the way down… that’s the ‘loss of control’…

    you can see it out your window… that homeless guy you put up is an indicator/symptom…

    @HABD

    This thing appears to be moving at a compound daily rate of 17% in the U.K.

    exponential is… exponential…lol… at some point that means ‘everybody’…

    In Italy it looks like it’s been running at between 20-25% but the compound daily rate is accelerating over time and their entry point was the 15th feb as opposed to the U.K. entry point of about 3rd March.

    see above… and those are the ‘confirmed cases’… there are plenty more that haven’t been tested…

    At this rate the U.K. will be at 7,000 odd cases by March 31 which will probably be the point they make the decision to quarantine everyone.

    stock in a bunch of food… (i would also say ammo, but… you should at least get a ‘sharpened stick’… people get crabby when they are hungry…)… and access to clean water… however you are setup for that…

    Italy did it at 7375 yesterday.

    This is not a rehearsal is it.

    nope…

    remember the force multipliers in play are food/water and population density… (medical care too, but mostly the first two… as long as you stay healthy…)

    good luck!

  29. @IAS

    @HABD: so you think COVID-19 is a lite version of Dan Brown’s Inferno book?

    never heard of it before, so i looked it up…

    lol… strong independent woman tropes and ‘we have to do SOMETHING’ liberal moralizing aside, the only danger of that ‘plague’ was random sterility…

    this one is a little more dangerous… at least to some asians and people with comprised immune functions…

    as far as a ‘culling’?… wellllll, billy gates does have some history advocating for that… and he did fund some research into those types of virii… but he did give $100M to ‘fight’ the outbreak… whether that is just political cover or not, no way for me to tell…lol

    at this point it doesn’t really matter where it came from… or for what purpose… the virus is in the wild…

    It isn’t super lethal from what I can make of the info. 2, 3%, kids mostly asymptomatic, mostly kills weak or older people. The 2, 3% figure might even be an upper bound considering a lot of the people that get it are asymptomatic (but presumably contagious).

    the spanish flu was about 2-3% cfr (ballpark estimates…)… and the world is more connected today (and that includes economies)… so it will travel faster… with more of a front-loaded crisis happening… rather than a drawn out pandemic…

    economies will take a hit, etc… but all crisis is just opportunity… and provided .govs have enough propane for the portable crematoria, this should be similar…lol

    sooo, this looks like the mother of all opportunity…lol

    stock some extra food and…

    wash your d*mn hands!!!

    lol…

    good luck!

  30. Virus Shmirus

    We will see. Personally I think that Eric’s story is overblown.

    But we will see.

    Anyhow… seeing the wokest of company’s now referring to International Womxn’s Day…

    And is this ADJ?

    https://3h7pwd17k2h42n17eg2j7vdq-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/shelljarvis.jpg

    ‘Womxn’ is being increasingly acknowledged as a more inclusive term when it comes to the complexities of contemporary gender recognition. For example, it embraces self-ID trans women like myself who reject ridiculously archaic attitudes that insist a woman has to be feminine, that she must act like a woman, dress like a woman, not have a beard, tuck in her penis, shave her arse et cetera.

    https://spectator.us/every-womxn-shell-international-womens-day/

  31. lol

    (For the sake of clarity alone, I will continue to use the official day’s title within this article and hope that one day the majority of cisgender ‘women’ stop being so bloody selfish with their gatekeeping of words and let womxn with penises have the final say. Honestly, in my opinion they need to learn their place. Feminism has come a long way, but until it accepts that women who were born male know better than they do about their own definitions, then I am afraid it’s just not going to progress much further (now don’t get me wrong, cisgender women are mostly adorable, but they simply cannot be trusted to make important decisions).

  32. PalmaSailor
    WHY have the “elites” lost control?

    Too many players in the game now. There is an “oversupply” of elites not only at the national level but the international level. I’m reading a book on this topic, but not done yet.

    I believe that the Boxer Rebellion in China back around 1900 was started by a couple of Chinese students who failed examinations for the Empress’s civil service.

    Most people are afraid of falling “below their station”, so we get all this kicking-down in the various uni’s across the world.

  33. @ SJF – Perhaps you need some fear of loss…of your wife’s uterus and ovaries

    Same as engaging with women. I just don’t have it. The fear of loss. My wife just had the mother of all menstrual periods last week @55 y.o. And that’s probably the last one in her life.

    She’s scheduled for a remove the uterus and ovaries next month.

    Because of fibroids. She does do the hormone stuff. Suzanne Sommers wise. So there’s that respect for me. And she’s still attractive. More so than me.

    Cut and Paste from https://lowninstitute.org/guest-post-the-madness-of-unnecessary-hysterectomy-has-to-stop/

    The hidden harms of hysterectomy

    The prevalence of these surgeries leads women to believe they are benign. But they are incredibly damaging. The uterus and ovaries work together and are essential to good health for a woman’s whole life. The uterus and its ligaments are vital for pelvic organ and skeletal integrity. The uterus separates the bladder and bowel and serves as an anchor keeping these organs where they belong. Once the uterus is removed, the bladder and bowel drop and the vagina is displaced. That is why hysterectomy can lead to bladder and bowel dysfunction, prolapse, and incontinence as well as a 4-fold increased risk of pelvic organ fistula surgery.

    The uterine ligaments are the pelvis’ support structures so the torso collapses after those ligaments are cut to remove the uterus. The hips widen and the spine and rib cage fall. This explains why hysterectomized women have shortened and thickened midsections and no curve in their lower backs. These changes lead to back and hip problems, reduced mobility, circulation issues and chronic pain. These changes seem to be the best kept secret about hysterectomy.

    Many women report reduced libido and sexual sensation likely due to severing of nerves and blood vessels and possibly other mechanisms. Personality changes are also a common complaint. There are additional risks of having the uterus removed. These include certain cancers – rectal, thyroid, renal cell, and brain – as well as heart disease (#1 killer of women). Heart disease risk is 3-fold according to this study. This one went further and looked at risk by age at hysterectomy. It found that “Women who underwent hysterectomy at age ≤35 years had a 4.6-fold increased risk of congestive heart failure and a 2.5-fold increased risk of coronary artery disease.”

    The hidden harms of oophorectomy

    The ovaries produce hormones a woman’s whole life if she is intact with testosterone levels increasing in the post-menopausal years. Ovary removal therefore causes a whole other set of problems including an increased risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke, osteoporosis, hip fracture, dementia, memory and cognitive impairment, parkinsonism, sleep disorders, adverse ocular and skin changes, and mood disorders. Additionally, ovary removal before age 46 has been shown to accelerate aging by increasing risk of 18 chronic conditions. The Ovaries for Life organization has compiled numerous studies demonstrating the risks of unnecessary oophorectomy, which can be found on their website.

    As HABD likes to end with, “Good Luck”.

  34. Thanks for the medical lecture.

    She’s fucking 55 years old.

    And we fuck on the regular.

    The peri-meno-pausal, getting to post menopausal is not for nothting. And these idiot yet idiots discussion this shit in the manoshphere when their LTR’s approach over fiftyh need to be informed. Including Blaximus. There are certain things that guys can discuss among guys. And Rollo has also has adressed although circumspectly. Roundabout.

    She’s not going to miss her painful 1.5 cm fibroids.

    Or her late regulated hormones. Because she supplements them with topical though.
    Thank you though. It it an important discussion

    And I apologize. I don’t remember your narrative.

  35. Oh ADJ

    ‘Womxn’ is being increasingly acknowledged as a more inclusive term when it comes to the complexities of contemporary gender recognition. For example, it embraces self-ID trans women like myself who reject ridiculously archaic attitudes that insist a woman has to be feminine, that she must act like a woman, dress like a woman, not have a beard, tuck in her penis, shave her arse et cetera.”

    WTF is this world coming to? This is basic biology. A woman is a woman and born that way. A lesbian is a woman with a genetic defect that makes her behave like a man with a vagina. Let’s just call it like it is. The human species needs a man and a woman to procreate and that’s the way it goes. Sorry your DNA got fucked up and you feel more like a man. This transgender fucktard wants to force it’s confusion on everyone else. More genetic defects. How many gay/confused animals do you see in nature? None.

    This is like having the patients run the asylum. We are the minority and need attention. We are going to force our confusion on society and make you wrong for being normal.

    “ridiculously archaic attitudes that insist a woman has to be feminine, that she must act like a woman, dress like a woman, not have a beard, tuck in her penis, shave her arse et cetera.”

    HELLO!!! I’ve never met a REAL woman with a penis. You are just a genetically defective man who is confused. If you want to wear a dress, go ahead and shut the fuck up.

    People are born with genetic defects all time, sorry.

    Sorry, completely off topic. Ranting because my company just added “pronouns you would like to be associated with” to our email signature block. Fucking ridiculous.

    And if ADJ wants to try out being a “woman” better let him or you might get sued.

  36. my company just added “pronouns you would like to be associated with” to our email signature block. Fucking ridiculous.

    Seeing a lot more of this… I think I’d do something like Tate… Pronouns – King etc.

  37. Enough Already

    I should point out however that Spectator article was satire… Or satire of farce or something.

  38. If you are truly an alpha and self-aware, than you know of your tendency towards control. Hopefully part of understanding your tendency is also the awareness that you can’t control everything.

    I don’t think any particular eventuality is certain, especially in a situation without precedent (such as you falling in love). Despite that, you state that you are glad she got out before you hurt her. Would you have done so? Can you be sure? I must ask, are you avoiding here out of some Noble Sacrifice, or because you don’t know how it would end and are afraid of getting hurt? Is the real fear rejection and a loss of control?

    Don’t just answer me here, ask yourself that. Let’s dive out of the focus of the site and speak generally. Everyone lies. Everyone lies to themselves at times. Are you doing that here?

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