In a couple of weeks I’ll be making my first and only personal appearance this year at the 21 Convention in Orlando, Florida. This event will be unique in a number of ways. To my knowledge, this convention will be the first large-scale gathering of Red Pill writers, bloggers, podcast hosts and thought-leaders ever organized. I’m truly appreciative of Anthony Johnson in being open to my suggestions for speakers. It was a collaborative effort in this regard and over the course of this year we did our best to collect a group of speakers who would represent many different aspects of Red Pill intersexual dynamics. My only regrets are that we couldn’t fit more speakers in to the schedule and some men I highly respect were unable to attend this year.
It was my hope that this ‘new and improved’ 21 Convention might eventually be an annual Red Pill summit of sorts. This build up hasn’t been without a bit of controversy from the previous Purple Pill speakers who used the 21 Convention’s prior events as a platform for their blogs and coaching businesses. That was to be expected just as the same tired criticisms of the Red Pill were too. I have no doubt that the previous ‘life coaches’ taking issue with this event’s Red Pill turn sincerely believe they have some valuable insights to help men become ‘better men’. The problem, however, becomes one of how these coaches would direct men according to the Blue Pill preconditioning they have never been able to disabuse themselves of.
I understand the necessity these guys must feel with regards to discrediting the Red Pill as a praxeology. The dots we connect in Red Pill awareness are often at odds with their deeply held Blue Pill ego-investments and hopes, as well as a threat to their (often LARPy moralistic) “Man Up but not too much” profit model. In fact, even just the idea that the Red Pill should be a praxeology of men’s collective experiences about intersexual dynamics is enough to make them want to disqualify it. Their criticism is that, as a praxeology, the Red Pill is long on explanations and short on solutions – solutions you can presumably get by signing up for their email blasts and coaching sessions.
The praxeology that is the Red Pill is inconvenient for them because it tears away the veneer of their Blue Pill idealism about women and reveals some very unflattering truths about them and the feminine on-whole which they still largely have on a pedestal in their heads. Red Pill awareness has a way of exposing the pretty lies that make for the good marketing material that most Purple Pill coaches depend on for their livelihoods. I mean, when 80%+ of men are Beta, who wouldn’t want to buy the secret 12 point list of things a man must do to be a real man and get the woman of his dreams?
Two Complaints
There are generally two common complaints I read coming from Purple Pill life dating coaches. The first is easy, and one I’ve refuted so many times I wont bore you with repeating myself, and that’s the presumption that Red Pill awareness must be false or detrimental to a guy because it makes guys so angry with women. This is the easiest dismissal for critics because it is true; men do go through a phase of anger when they unplug from the Blue Pill illusions they’ve been so convinced of for the better part of a lifetime. And yes, some get stuck in this phase and some do become despondent because they don’t want to face the abyss it represents to them. Some go MGTOW, some turn into Purple Pill coaches themselves because they don’t want to accept the whole of what Red Pill awareness means. But most men go through this phase and come to an acceptance that there is hope in a Red Pill paradigm for them. They come to see their new awareness as a safety net and boldly embrace rebuilding themselves into better men based on this full awareness.
So the sales pitch then becomes, “Don’t be angry with women like those Red Pill guys. You can still live in Blue Pill happiness and harmony with a loving unicorn ‘Quality‘ woman by following these 5 simple steps to make yourself into the man women want you to be.”
What the Purple Pill anger critics (deliberately) refuse to get is that the Red Pill isn’t (and was never) intended to get men to hate women, but rather to inform men about the inherent nature of women so they wont hate women for what they can never be to them. This is the disillusionment that men who still cling to Blue Pill idealism can’t seem to get past – they cannot abandon those Blue Pill hopes that they believe women are capable of fulfilling for him, but the Red Pill disabuses him of. So they get angry. They get angry at themselves for ever having believed in them. They get angry for having wasted so much time investing themselves in them. They get angry, most importantly, because they realize that women simply aren’t built to fulfill the hopes his Blue Pill conditioning made him believe should be possible.
The Purple Pill coach believes that this Red Pill realization leads to men hating women. The second complaint I read from them is that Red Pill awareness gives men some license to feeling like victims. This criticism is deductive to coaches for two reasons; it serves his ‘get-rich-quick-on-the-internet-by-selling-sunshine’ man-up and do better to qualify for women blog template, and it discourages men seeking answers from becoming Red Pill aware in a way that crushes their still Blue Pill belief set.
For the record, and as boldly as I can put this, if you are Red Pill aware man and still believe you are a victim of some sort because of your previous Blue Pill indenturement to pedestalizing women or the Feminine Imperative, you are only a victim of your own lack of vision. Red Pill awareness has set you free – free from the blur and distraction that a feminine-primary social order would pull over your eyes, free from the delusional Blue Pill hopes that are only greater shackles for a man, and free from never seeing the intersexual pitfalls you were prone to fall into before. But Red Pill awareness comes at a cost; the truth may set you free, but it doesn’t make it pretty. If you have a responsibility as a Red Pill aware man it’s that you are never allowed to play the victim. You now know the rules of engagement. Play it well, change the rules if you can, but you are no longer allowed to say you didn’t know the score.
Most Purple Pill coaches know this victim complex is bullshit, so they deliberately conflate Red Pill awareness with MGTOW or the MRM or even the “flip side of feminism” in an effort to muddy the waters and dissuade men, who are genuinely hurting and seeking answers, away from the real life-changing influence that the Red Pill represents.
When I petitioned my readers to leave a testimonial as to why they thought the Red Pill represented more confidence or a ‘safety net’ to them I got much more than I anticipated from that comment thread. I had been looking for some good quotes to add to the back cover of Positive Masculinity, but what I got was over a thousand revelations about the power that Red Pill awareness has in changing men’s lives for the better. These are men who took what the Red Pill had shown them and transformed their lives with that knowledge. They did this because Red Pill awareness empowered them, gave them the tools, to implement changes in themselves and how they interacted with women and a feminized world. They did so without anger or feeling like victims, and they did so without a Purple Pill hack trying to coax them back onto the plantation and into their failed, and false, Blue Pill belief sets.
And this is what scares the coaches; that a free and open source Red Pill praxeology is responsible for more men taking the initiative and bettering themselves than anything their ‘coaching’ has been responsible for.
Personal Development
I am not now, nor have I ever been a motivational speaker, a ‘guru’ of any stripe, a psychotherapist or a personal development coach. Though I’m humbled to be counted among the Godfathers of the Red Pill, I have never claimed ownership of the Red Pill. It’s always been my belief that the Red Pill – the true Red Pill that has always been about intersexual dynamics – should be an ‘open source’ community. Decentralization is one of its strengths, but it also allows for bastardization from men and women who want to define it.
In each of my books and on this blog I’ve made things plain about my non-approach to men and their own personal development; I’m not interested in making better men, I’m interested in men making themselves better men. I am not interest in making men “Tomassi Men” or in anyway selling them on a template for what I think a real man ought to be. My life and my interpretations of it are not going to be a template for anyone else to follow. Red Pill awareness, based on the praxeology of intersexual dynamics in the personal and social realms, will save and/or improve your life, but that life has to be lived by you as an individual.
That said, of course I realize that men seeking answers will want a codified system of guidelines for their own personal development. I’m not the guy who’s going to give that to you, neither is that Purple Blue Pill life coach with the 12 point plan, neither is the motivational speaker selling you the same tired power of positivity message that’s been around since the 1930s. You are going to come up with that plan, you are going to take what the Red Pill makes you aware of and you are going to apply it to how you live your life. And you will have the satisfaction of knowing that your personal development and the successes (and failures) that came from it authentically came from your own plan and according to your judgement, not someone else’s vision or template.
I wanted to take a moment in this post to preface the 21 Convention by addressing the ways in which men come to unplug themselves from their old, Blue Pill conditioned way of life and reconstruct themselves. Reader Blaximus added this in a recent comment thread and it sums things up well:
Fourth: there is no ‘ system ‘ for teaching or learning Game. None. The process is highly individualized and virtually no two guys will learn at the same rate, or achieve the exact same level of understanding or real world application. No cheat sheets in game. You either get it and apply it and internalize it, or you don’t. It’s not about picking up chicks in clubs. That’s PUA. Game picks up chicks at a funeral. Lol. True game will be disliked by the masses.
Far too many Purple Pill dating coaches don’t want to get this in their heads. They think that because the Red Pill is a praxeology it implies it’s a cop out on developing real solutions for guys. They either don’t understand the necessity for men’s individual needs to personally develop Game for themselves, or they need a convenient dismissal of the Red Pill as ‘those angry guys have no answers’.
I have stressed in more essays than I care to recount the importance of combining what the Red Pill informs Game about with what Game informs the Red Pill about. One is the theoretical, the other is the practical, and neither is complete without the other. Yes, it is entirely vital that you, as a Red Pill aware man, get out into the field to employ the ideas, and test the practicality of how the Red Pill relates to your situation in your environment according to your strengths and gifts. That field may be a night club, or day Game on the street, in a social circle, with your wife of 10 years or in your churches singles’ group. The fact remains, Red Pill awareness is applicable through Game in a variety of environments, social and cultural contexts.
Game Works, but it only works if you turn off the computer and do something. How do you learn from a book? You put it down and you go outside (and yes, that counts for my books too). Investing oneself in Red Pill awareness as a praxeology is not a cop out for coming up with real solutions – it gives men a toolset from which they can create their own solutions. What frightens Purple Pill coaches is that men’s individual solutions, often enough, don’t affirm their Blue Pill romanticizations, their pretenses of morality, or their idealistic inability to look at the abyss and find hope on the other side of it. They want solutions, but they want their solutions to be affirmed by a Red Pill awareness that contradicts their ego-investments.
When your revenue depends on not getting it it’s hard to convince a Blue Pill man otherwise.
I will be discussing aspects of this essay at the 21 Convention in just two weeks. If you are attending I’d like to take this opportunity to extend you a personal invitation to talk with me at the convention and possibly have dinner with my colleagues and I at the event. On the topic of just getting out there in the field and doing it, I know that my friends Christian McQueen and Goldmund will be heading out into the wilds of the Orlando nightlife and I will be accompanying them on at least one of these outings.
Lastly, if you are in the Central Florida area, or if you want to make the drive in for the weekend, and you really really want to attend the convention, but just can’t come up with the funds, hit me up via email, Twitter or leave a message on my About page here and I will personally see about getting you some kind of hardship discount. Remember, this is only if you’re truly desperate to attend.
See you in two weeks.
@SJF in the Always Be Closing scene…Ricky Roma isn’t in the scene because he IS out closing.
“Ricky Roma isn’t in the scene because he IS out closing.”
Exactly.
Sperm Donor Fathers (In General) @ Blaximus – Another perspective on “basically a sperm donor” 09/13/17 9:43pm Your advice here is sound, but I want to share a different perspective on the issue. I never met my father-in-law. He abandoned his family when my wife was a young girl. The thought that it would have been better had he never reproduced is common preventative thinking, and the odds of anything good coming out of it seem slim and remote. However, I believe that this traumatic event had a huge impact on shaping that girl into the woman she would become.… Read more »
“Lol. I don’t ignore ya Mersonia. I actually think you’ve had some very strong posts lately. Credit where credit is due.” Exactly. Male space. Don’t be a dick. We are not retards or fragile women. You can say shit. But don’t be so solipsistic as to how your needs are universal. We all know what’s going on here and the original post is about To Each His Own. Just cause you had a shitty childhood and want to go all rampage about that and some of use have done the raising of children decently, doesn’t give you credible powers to… Read more »
@asd, blaximus
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@SJF “But don’t be so solipsistic as to how your needs are universal. We all know what’s going on here and the original post is about To Each His Own. just cause you had a shitty childhood and want to go all rampage about that and some of use have done the raising of children decently, doesn’t give you credible powers to judge the old married or recently divorced guys. Unless you want to be a dick. This is why I do everyone the decency of quoting directly what they said and responding in response to it. I never went… Read more »
1st step would be having him understand cam girls are whores. Not sure how you would help if he doesn’t grasp that
“As far as the west primarily being built by men seeking fame power wealth and conquering other tribes, I dunno that sounds more like Atilla the Hun or Alexander the Great. They conquered shit, that’s for sure, but they didn’t build a civilization.” Improvement in weapons technology led to the assumption of western power. Why do you think that is? Wouldn’t be of much use if there weren’t millions of men willing to wield it. The weapons technology in question was gunpowder (more accurately, westernised gunpowder in weapons). Not only did this entirely change how wrafare was conducted, on a… Read more »
The way I read Mersonia’s comment is, I babysat some kids once and that makes me a father. Oh, and I’m really cocky, so that makes me red pill. I think that any man (or woman) who posts on these comment pages recognizes that what they say is often misunderstood or not appreciated. When that happens, you first consider that you may have not been clear enough in your writing. Then, you consider that the reader may not comprehend what you are saying or have such a completely different view of the world that they may not understand what you… Read more »
Alexander created Greece, spread Hellenistic culture from Gibraltar to the Indus Valley and founded Alexandria which was the dominant force in human thinking for several hundred years and played a key role in the development of Christianity. Growing to be the largest city in the world with its famous and unprecedented library it was the very symbol of civilization.
Always interesting to me how many people have no idea that most of life essentially comes down to (prudent) violence and (prudent) self interest. The whole argument seems to center mostly around what self interest actually means (it’s not ipso facto just me, myself and I).
Best scene of a beta being crushed from Quadrophenia…
Note: hypergamy, lack of any sort of remorse on the part of a woman, how pleading and being a romantic doesn’t work (It did to fucking me!) Truly cringe-worthy…then he crashes his bike…
K
“What about GoodLookingLoser?”
What makes you think he is “Red Pill”? Because he lifts?
What is “Red Pill” to you?
The AMOG’ing was a fun read last night. Nothing wrong with that and it keeps people on their toes. I don’t come to TRM for entertainment but sometimes the comments are righteously hilarious. Having said that, when a guy is in triage and they come here to seek help it’s not particularly helpful to kick them while they are down. Leave that to the women who are supreme experts at that. I suspect Dr. Zipper is experiencing some of the same pain and extreme frustration I went through over the past few years regarding separation, divorce and parental alienation. It’s… Read more »
Costa Concordia Captain was exercising self interest when he abandoned his ship with all the people still on it.
Sully Sullenberger was also exercising self interest when he landed the plane on water and then stayed and helped all of the passengers out.
Different people who valued different things…which led to entirely different outcomes.
Roused
” Just because you are out for yourself, and you should be, doesn’t mean you can’t work as a unit for an objective.”
True… I work on a pirate ship. Brigands together with time and talent for a purpose. But make no mistake this is no band of brothers. It’s all well and good until it’s not, and you still need to guard against someone taking your share. If there is an inch of throat to ne cut no doubt it will.
Fittingly enough with the anger issues raised in this post, I’ve just reached Rollo’s Year Six Anger Bias essay — and it’s one of his sharpest distillations of the damned-if-you-do-damned -if-you-don’t bind men now face. “Why are you so angry?” — much like “You’re being stubborn!” — is hard to answer without just digging yourself in deeper. Fortunately I’ve found Rollo’s thoughts provide a sense of calm and direction amid the frustration. Also liked the Year Six look at bizbabe Sallie Krawcheck. Did anyone point out that those bad mans at B of A gave her $6 million severance after… Read more »
@Sentient @K
Everybody has Game. Some is better than others. I recall one vid where GLL used a spam approach style of game. Don’t know what he does otherwise.
Teaching PUA game isn’t teaching Red Pill…there MAY be some overlap, maybe not.
“Today any gal who can find two hapless part-time hirelings to browbeat can call herself a “communications group.”
But will still lose work to hotter women… Lolz.
@Roused Nobody was kicking Zipper when he was down, least of all me. This was perhaps the best opportunity in a long while to show the level of game needed when a marriage is on the rocks. Gotta really push yourself and do stuff that feels very risky, like going out solo every weekend. In reality, not doing that is far, far riskier to a marriage and to getting laid. If your wife isn’t banging you more than once a month and she’s doing GNO every week, you gotta really step it up. It’s when men are feeling low that… Read more »
“True… I work on a pirate ship. Brigands together with time and talent for a purpose. But make no mistake this is no band of brothers. It’s all well and good until it’s not, and you still need to guard against someone taking your share. If there is an inch of throat to ne cut no doubt it will.” Can’t fool me. Pirates use pirate speak. http://funtranslations.com/pirate That should’ve been: “I work on a Corsair ship, avast. Brigands together with time and talent fer a purpose. But make no mistake this be no band o’ brothers. It’s all well and… Read more »
Guys I’ve just bought $500 in Bitcoin.
What’s the TRM consensus on buying $5000? And holding for the next 5 years?
PS – I started drinking early today with my buddies. I’m pretty drunk. I’m at the pizza place now at flirting with the vegan girl returning a pepperoni pizza.
Perhaps not the best state of mind to be buying new Bitcoin
I’m just checking myself out in the glass window of the pizza place.
I look fucking hot. What chick wouldn’t want me?
@culum
the fuck?
This is the most recent piece I’ve read on bitcoin. The guy is sharp, it’s an interesting take:
http://professorconfess.blogspot.com/2017/09/gold-dollars-stocksand-bitcoin.html
Roused “The tribe of TRM is one of the, if the best space to come and learn. We each bring our own life experience and they are unique, but they all have common threads which the RP can answer. It takes time if you’ve just begun to see life through the RP lens. A bit of AMOG is natural and we should expect it and be able to learn from it. But I would say if a guy is coming here for help he is moving away from being a “loser” and towards winning. There is no overnight success with… Read more »
22 in a row for the Tribe .;.. imagine 22 straight approaches leading to porn-star sex
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7956813/mediaviewer/rm912992256
Loving vincent…
O.B.I.T.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXHtoHW9JMo
bitcoin, w/out China’s support — which it is currently trying to remove/diminish — the bubble will pop
many many competitors are also popping up that also use blockchain technologies for a wide range of applications, not just financial transactions
very risky right now, probably over-valued, highly speculative
O.B.I.T.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXHtoHW9JMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voPYrzMKxrE
Culum
“I look fucking hot. What chick wouldn’t want me?”
Time for the $exy Beast t shirt…
Nice!
It’s only normal that having strong core beliefs demolished, some implanted since childhood, would cause anger.
It’s the kind of anger one feels when there’s a sudden death of a loved one.
It took a while but I lost my anger.
Truth be told? I kinda miss it sometimes.
Culum
“I started drinking early today with my buddies. I’m pretty drunk. I’m at the pizza place now at flirting with the vegan girl returning a pepperoni pizza.
Perhaps not the best state of mind to be buying new Bitcoin”
Sounds like a good start to the next DHV story…
PS – on investment stuff like this I always tell the guy to do what he thinks and see how it works out…
The field is king in all disciplines.
Doc Z
“very risky right now, probably over-valued, highly speculative”
Maybe. Maybe not… What is a Beta mindset and what is Alpha?
Rugby
“Team work is essential but leadership is always in a state of solitude. When you lead you are alone and you tap into a primal force of masculinity that is unique and today fought againt’s because it doesn’t accept complex laws and social discourse as the state of affairs man will alway’s be dealing with up into the point of death.”
Solid.
OBIT
“22 in a row for the Tribe .;.. imagine 22 straight approaches leading to porn-star sex”
To be fair, some of their sex sessions were with 5s…
Culum Strain
PS – I started drinking early today with my buddies. I’m pretty drunk. I’m at the pizza place now at flirting with the vegan girl returning a pepperoni pizza.
You could clear up a question I’ve had for years. Do vegan girls swallow? I mean, on the one hand vegans are “no animal nothing nohow not ever”, but girls are girls. See if you can get a definite answer to that question, ok?
Looking for Zion
It took a while but I lost my anger.
Truth be told? I kinda miss it sometimes.
That anger is a cheap source of short term energy but it will wear you down. Not good for a man physically or mentally.
Plus I keep running across tolerably well done science that points in the direction of “mind and body are one”. Running on anger is just grinding on the adrenals.
As a rule I would suggest that people not invest in anything they do not understand. Of course if my advice had been followed in the years 2000 to 2008 we would not have had the glorious housing boom that had no downside. So take that for what it is worth. The value of Bitcoins in anything else (dollars, ounces of gold, gallons of low sulphur crude, grams of drugs, etc. ) has fluctuated. One might want to look at a few years of price action and apply a few basic analysis tools before buying. Risk/reward, how likely is one… Read more »
One might dollar cost average into bitcoin. That would help balance out volatility.
https://www.bitcoinmarketjournal.com/dollar-cost-averaging-bitcoin/
(I’d never invest in bitcoin myself. If everything collapses is a cryptocurrency really going to help you? Seems more a gambling bubble generator)
Awesome. I’ll be there and appreciate your invitation. Looking forward to meeting you.
“What is a Beta mindset and what is Alpha?”
gathering info, making a decision about the risk/reward
he was asking about it, said my piece… and he decides if this risk makes the cut
seems straightforward to me
but at those amounts, I say fuck it, worst case won’t hurt that bad
The government of the United States of America will not allow a competing currency to take hold in direct competition to the fiat currency used to rank the U.S. as the wealthiest nation on earth.
Think about it for a minute.
If the country collapses, initially ( years ) no form of currency as we know it will be viable.
Ammunition will be worth more than diamonds and gold, lol.
Monetary ” wealth ” is highly subject to stability.
I have a partly off-topic suggestion for a post on “normies” from a Red Pill perspective. Male normies, to be more accurate. We have seen a lot of debate and hand-wringing on the subject of normies since Trump’s election victory. There are all sorts of arguments out there. SJWs shouldn’t be alienating normies (say white leftists who oppose identity politics), the Alt-Right shouldn’t be alienating normies (say civic nationalist right-wingers), normies are the silent majority, Internet trolls get off on triggering normies etc. Well, who’s a “normie”? Does it have the same meaning as, say, 30 or 50 years ago?… Read more »
“The government of the United States of America will not allow a competing currency to take hold in direct competition to the fiat currency used to rank the U.S. as the wealthiest nation on earth.
Think about it for a minute.”
John Robb wrote an article entitled ‘The NSA Now Owns Bitcoin’ a while back.
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2014/06/the-nsa-now-owns-bitcoin.html
(some of the comments on that thread are interesting too)
@ anon The comments in that article are gold and very telling. Something I’ve been shouting at my economic/super capitalist friends is that The Old Set of econ books need to be rewritten to reflect the realities of the past 20-30 years. The economic and monetary ” systems ” of the world have been severely compromised by tptb. The idea that entities like the NSA or small ( comparatively ) handfuls of people could control and subvert these systems seems unthinkable and ignored by people blinded by their intelligence on the subject. ” wealth ” is broken, for the most… Read more »
Oh, and in a just world, Greenspan would’ve been tried for treason.
…. Alexander Hamilton would have shot him.
blax – Hamilton’s shooting skills….lol
@Rollo: . . . “Man Up but not too much” profit model is both hilarious and accurate.
The 9th paragraph is gold — devastatingly accurate. RoE may suck but it is what it is: possibly a boundary rather than a personal limitation. Work from where you are with what you’ve got.
rugby11 Thanks for the pornstar videos
Its strange, really, to hear Johnny Sins voice. He sounds like a homosexual and is one of the biggest straight pornstars out there.
SJB Do you mean this part: For the record, and as boldly as I can put this, if you are Red Pill aware man and still believe you are a victim of some sort because of your previous Blue Pill indenturement to pedestalizing women or the Feminine Imperative, you are only a victim of your own lack of vision. Red Pill awareness has set you free – free from the blur and distraction that a feminine-primary social order would pull over your eyes, free from the delusional Blue Pill hopes that are only greater shackles for a man, and free… Read more »
Markos beers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voPYrzMKxrE Welcome, This one hits close to home with behavior and family dynamic. Alpha tells and social remix of human intimacy. http://casualsexproject.com/sexual-athletics-turns-near-heart-attack/ Self-surgery Was doing some self surgery on past moment’s of trauma in my life and found myself realizing that trauma for males especially when it involves sex forces you into a red pill existence. you can delay that for as long as you want and find way’s to tolerate the pain of the human life you live. But the forces that change your body and the life you build mandate some form of social intergration. Guilt… Read more »
@Markos Beers: Yes, that paragraph is the example par excellence of Rollo’s succinct writing that keeps me returning to it.
Thanks guys who answered about Bitcoin etc. I was off my face yesterday (still have a lot of booze in my system I think) but was a great day/night out with my buddies – we started really early and I rapidly blew past the point where I was physically capable of achieving any kind of close with a girl, I bought the Bitcoin when I was still relatively sober thankfully. I think $500 is fine for an initial experiment but I think it will be interesting to see how it goes if I hold it for 3-5 years and ignore… Read more »
“It’s not about picking up chicks in clubs. That’s PUA. Game picks up chicks at a funeral.”
Yup!😁
If you have a responsibility as a Red Pill aware man it’s that you are never allowed to play the victim. You now know the rules of engagement. Play it well, change the rules if you can, but you are no longer allowed to say you didn’t know the score.
This is sort of all TRM in a nutshell from what I’ve learned here.
It’s like the real estate maxim: location, location, location.
Attitude, attitude, attitude.
Women can look surprisingly hot at funerals. My SO usually dresses very conservatively in public so I’m amazed at the rather skimpy purple number she has for these occasions.
Really good read
https://www.troyhunt.com/face-id-touch-id-pins-no-id-and-pragmatic-security/
http://spuz.me/blog/zine/3Qu1F4x.html
Hollenhunde The men who still follow the old “normie” rules are becoming a rather peculiar social group – mainly middle-class whites and Asians, higher-than-average intelligence and ambition, low time preference, prone to conformity, mostly beta, blue pill. The men on both ends of the spectrum are increasingly abandoning this. Yeah, the “new normal” may have some superficial simularity to the old “normal” but that’s as far as it goes. Some men in their 20’s with college degrees are working 2 or 3 gigs that add up to almost one job. That’s not old normal, but it is new normal. A… Read more »
In a just world everyone engaged in the fraud that us usury would be shot.
Them, lawyers and child rapists
” In a just world everyone engaged in the fraud that us usury would be shot.”
I cannot find any fault wit this .
LOL damn am I a shit speller
@rugby
thanks for the self surgery post. great reflection.
PS: I not troll nobody.
Open penis envy:
https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-views/taking-pee-out-physics-how-boys-are-getting-a-leg
Where it leads:
http://www.worldcat.org/title/quantum-feminist-mnemotechnics-the-archival-text-electronic-narrative-and-the-limits-of-memory/oclc/56752578
IF-I-FELL You seem to have some pedestalization issues with Jordan Peterson. I like Peterson and listen to some of his stuff too. I’ve actually tired of him a bit lately, and that’s way less of an insult than it must sound like. It’s mostly that I’ve tired of people talking in general. Too many professional talkers these days. Not to take anything away from the upcoming event of Rollo’s. I would gladly go to that once a year. Just for me personally, I’m back to books and off the ‘net as much as possible. No more youtube etc. But back… Read more »
I’ve made that statement many times, that fatherhood isn’t for every man. Not by a long shot. But as a father, stepfather and godfather, I just can’t see where all of this ” exhaustion ” comes into play. Sounds to me like some over-parenting or something. I too have heard a few parents who get overwhelmed by parenting, lol, a little baby just fucks up their heads and their lives. I think the problem lies in something generational. It’s not the kids, it’s the people trying to be parents. A strong measure of trying to adapt at not being so… Read more »
Sigh. Fucking spell check killing me.
Above should read ” innate inability “, not image inability.
Blaximus
image inability.
LOL @ Smell Czech strikes again.
I have got to figure some way to work that into a conversation or a rant.
Something something “intersectional postmodern image inability” something.
Yeah, like that.
“They love their kids to death but were very willing to admit that it is not worth it at the same time. It was a very courageous admittance on their part, imo.”
There’s nothing courageous about it. Most people who regret having kids fucked it up. I heard that growing up from mom. “Don’t make my mistake, I had you…”
Very courageous.
Folks seem to like that Jordan Peterson fella but the way I reckon things are
#1 He’s been to college. Major minus. Dont make it a habbit to trust college boys.
#2 He’s Canadian. Major minus. Dont trust most of them either
On top of that someone said he is churched.
Odds he is the trustworthy church going Canadian college boy? Slim to none and Slim just left town
If a man don’t habe son’s, who is going to take over the world when he dies?
LOL the 1st person to tell me I hate you you son of a bitch was my mother
She still doesn’t understand why that’s funny
Ton
She still doesn’t understand why that’s funny
Thread winner.
the Red Pill is inconvenient for them because it tears away the veneer of their Blue Pill idealism about women and reveals some very unflattering truths about them and the feminine on-whole which they still largely have on a pedestal in their heads.
https://www.thecut.com/2017/08/sex-diaries-woman-taking-off-her-wedding-ring-before-a-date.html
Link found at Instapundit.
anon,
The people I was referring to as courageous both did great jobs of raising decent kids. I’m the one who knows. Total whiff on your part. Psssttt… your ego investment is showing.
@ melmoth I called out Peterson as blue pill before the current essay. I used his quotations because they raise the essential “what are you going to do with your life” questions. Perhaps the “man isn’t a man until he has children” is horseshit as you say. If you prefer, a lot of men on this site subscribe to the idea of having a mission of what they want to accomplish with their lives. If enjoying 20 year old naked females is your mission or a part of it, (like I told Mersonia) then have at it. Fatherhood is time-consuming,… Read more »
I hope the sex diary thing is not a true story.
“One of the most wrenching stories on the comment pages concerning bad outcomes resulting from fatherhood was that of Scribblerg. While he has expressed his anger and disappointment about the way things have turned out, I do not believe he has expressed that fatherhood was a waste of his time or he wished he had never been a father.” Generations and generations of our ancestors went through worse than most anyone today could even fathom. Wars, plagues, famine. If there is any word in the English language that has been more bastardized than “courage” I’m hard pressed to think of… Read more »
That son of a bitch thing was funny. LOL
A lot of men will tell you that having children was neither a plus or a minus or more of a minus to them. Women love the kids no matter what and to a fault of being overly permissive. Women pedestalize children and men don’t. Men don’t have those same type of blinders on with respect to children and are far more likely to see them as individual instead of as an extension of their body like women do. Women like babies more than grown kids, while men like grown kids more than babies. I love my kids, but if… Read more »
IF-I-FELL You already assume to know me and my ‘missions’ just to facilitate your argument. That was a copout and I bet you know that. Let’s just say my mission is NOT 40 years of servitude to a woman who lost her capacity to arouse after a year and a half, especially in this legal environment. No, I’m not some 100 cold approaches a week guy either. I just live somewhere where youthful female beauty is easy to come by which leaves me much more time for what I consider to be more serious goals. Missions, if you will, so… Read more »
Morning
https://deida.info/product/hes-never-enough-for-her/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpQ2VwJ-8J8
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QN5fPANzgTw/U9ZO6BlvmlI/AAAAAAAAezc/wwPGOar65Q4/s1600/Satisfaction+%2528Serie+de+TV%2529+-+Stephanie+Szostak.jpg
I’ve watched a bunch of Jordan Peterson’s videos, mostly because a lot have been posted here in the comments section over the years. JP isn’t a bad guy, lol, as far as the Lecturing Intellectual goes. With guys like that, my strategy is to take what I can from what they say, and reject that which is only based in conjecture. It’s often best to consider advice and theory from those that actually have had experience in the subject matter at hand, as opposed to someone that has given it A Great Deal of Thought. If anything his purpose is… Read more »
“#2 He’s Canadian. Major minus. Dont trust most of them either”
Oh thanks Ton,
Tell ya what, I have a used car to sell, you interested?
@ Melmoth I made no assumption of knowing you or your mission. Let’s be clear, the deathbed “did I make the most of my life?” test is self-graded. The question in regards to Peterson is, “Do I (you) have a better idea?” “a woman who raised two ideal daughters (young Cindy Crawfords) and both instinctively cringed at the concept of having children and how much exhaustion and sacrifice is involved” I was curious as to why you felt these daughters were ideal? Your description made them sound lazy and self-centered. Plus, I remember the artful black and whites of Cindy… Read more »
Blaximus
Funny thing about data driven conclusions is that they are massively dependent on the quality and correctness of the data. Also, ” data ” never gives a true picture of all that’s going on in a given set of circumstances.
Abstractly this sums up a lot of androsphere writing for the last 10 years. Men trying to get correct data out of all the noise, feminist cowshit and outright lies; while trying to figure out what “enough data” looks like to create a picture that isn’t true but is “close enough”.
“I think as a whole, men need some kind of consensus on what ” maleness ” entails. This is vital because over the past 60 or so years, a non-male force has set out redefining what male and masculinity means, and pulling the teeth and claws from the tiger in the process.” “Abstractly this sums up a lot of androsphere writing for the last 10 years. Men trying to get correct data out of all the noise, feminist cowshit and outright lies…” Jack Donovan’s ‘The Way of Men’ cuts through the noise pretty well and and in my opinion the… Read more »
Anyone see this before?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBTx7VGzsnU&t=40s
Humor response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLRu6PJtRv4
Joe rogen response
The red dress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsFb0CYnnWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br8KtroS-40
@Rugby
JP: “Women prefer men about 4-5 years older than them.”
Reality, women say that they prefer men 4-5 years older than them.” For marriage. Older women hit on young men frequently for sex. And young women frequently want sex with older men.
theasdgamer
“Reality, women say that they prefer men 4-5 years older than them.” For marriage. Older women hit on young men frequently for sex. And young women frequently want sex with older men.”
Saw something to this with the SMP chart men reaching peak at 29 and women at 23 Marriage makes sense for women. For older men that build’s into the attraction for human connection.
in marriage can you remain Alpha with one women?
theasdgamer
“Reality, women say that they prefer men 4-5 years older than them.” For marriage. Older women hit on young men frequently for sex. And young women frequently want sex with older men.”
Seems to make sense for women and how men mature with time if they can appreciate that.
Is it possible to be alpha in a marriage with one women?
For 2 women would that be even more alpha with a marriage context?
“Is it possible to be alpha in a marriage with one women?”
Yes.
“For 2 women would that be even more alpha with a marriage context?”
Not necessarily.
anon
Back in 2009 i saw a man with 13 wives in Colorado city Arizona… Stayed form 11 to 5 when he got home they all assembled to meet him… But throughout the day none of the women ever spoke with one another… Eerie but worked… For him, i suppose this is the number one spot for feminist to protest in the US of A its a great way to see the alpha beta problem and participation within the system run from faith.
Women and words
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIwXd6YAid4
Men and action’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vl97FMF_EY
Women and Culture
LOL don’t need a car Agent P but I would be interested in buying a bridge I can rename
@ Rugby11 I remember Rollo using the “Dear Woman” for an essay. I hadn’t seen the Funny or Die version—thanks! The Peterson/Sargon video is so frustrating. He’s close but keeps missing. Some say on purpose. Others say to keep his position. “Is it possible to be alpha in a marriage with one women?” It has not been my experience that a man can be alpha in a marriage with one woman for the long haul. This is especially true if there is proximity, children and domestic chores to be shared. Having said that, it is possible for a man to… Read more »
“Is it possible to be alpha in a marriage with one women?” It has not been my experience that a man can be alpha in a marriage with one woman for the long haul. This is especially true if there is proximity, children and domestic chores to be shared. Having said that, it is possible for a man to be more than one man in the relationship. Unconsciously, would be the best—consciously is second best. If conscious, can all men sell the multiple personalities? As with everything related to male competence, some do it better than others. Some men here… Read more »