Rational reader Playdontpay had a very poignant comment in last week’s thread:
I’ll stick with the “boner test”. Women are only playthings anyway!
Do I enjoy fucking her? After sex is she good feminine company? This is all I need to know, if shit goes sideways I’ll just get another one.She’s only going to lie and present a fictional version of herself based on what she thinks you’re looking for anyways. Women don’t do real self improvement they just convince themselves that they already are “better” because if she can’t convince herself it will be more difficult for her to sell it to you.
She will rewrite her sexual history and “because she’s a different person now”, well, that’s the way she has always been. Stop taking them so seriously, how are you going to vet a Machiavellian liar that’s been learning game from the age of 12?
His perspective on women is exactly why I tell men to avoid marriage altogether even though I’ve had a fantastic marriage myself for over 20 years. A lot of my haters, and more than a few supporters often get hung up on this.
Most of the criticism I get for writing what I do and still maintaining a good relationship with Mrs. T comes from men who cannot wrap their heads around the very simple, accepted truths described in this approach towards women. They think there must be something more to it. They think in their preconditioned equalist mindset that women are wired for the same introspection and development that men are. So, naturally, the easy presumption is that any self respecting woman would never put up with a Red Pill man’s outlook and approach, because they believe the blank slate lie.
If an egalitarian ideal between men and women were tenable I’d completely agree, but it isn’t. So, in order to protect their ego investments, the rationale follows that any woman who falls for a Red Pill man must, by definition, be lacking in self esteem, self respect, low quality, etc. They believe that because anything else destroys their equalist fantasy world. This stems from a much deeper, root level, ego-investment in egalitarianism and I think this is a perspective a lot of Red Pill aware men have a tough time with to say nothing of men still plugged into the Blue Pill world view.
If you’ve read me for any length of time you’ll know I’m rarely prescriptive in my writing. I’ve always been of the belief that men need to find ways to utilize Red Pill awareness of intersexual dynamics for themselves on an individual basis. However, I will say that there are certain general aspects of that awareness and how to put it into something applicable in a man’s life that seem self-evident to me. First and foremost among these generalities is that in killing your inner Beta and disabusing oneself of his Blue Pill conditioning, a man needs to understand that the foundational belief that informed and defined his Blue Pill existence is equalism. The presumption that an idealized, blank-slate egalitarian state between the sexes is both possible and desirable informs all Blue Pill beliefs that follow it.
This equalist presumption often forms the mental point of origin for most Blue Pill men. Ostensibly, this mental prioritization of some equal state between the sexes is what most Blue Pill guys will tell you attracts women. This notion is also fundamental to Blue Pill guys’ drive for identifying their own psyches with the feminine and forms the basis of Beta Game.
Transitioning this early equalist ideology to a sexual strategy is a simple, deductive process for men. Little boys are raised on feminine primacy memes and the narrative of Fempowerment, all the while being conditioned to believe that, beyond some insignificant biology, boys and girls are identical beings with the same potential and proficiencies. It’s gotten to the point where this process is normalized and pushed to the backgrounds of most people’s consciousness. We’ll raise boys in feminine-primary educational standards, we’ll teach them they’re the same as girls, but we’ll also teach them they’re defective for not aligning themselves with girls, for not getting in touch with their feminine sides.
I’m fleshing this process out a bit here because unlearning this equalist’s mental point of origin is a key transition in a man’s unplugging. Often the hardest part of killing the Beta and accepting Red Pill awareness is replacing equalism with oneself as a mental point of origin. This is a hard step for most guys because it requires he shift his opinion of himself and risk being called a selfish asshole. Remember, anything that would disagree with or challenge the idea of intersexual egalitarianism will always be equated with misogyny, intolerance, tyranny, etc. Questioning the validity of equalism (however it’s applied) will always be countered with a binary extreme.
This is exactly why Playdontpay’s comment appears so outrageous and self-indulgent to anyone not Red Pill aware. HIs pragmatism will be conflated with anger.
Interghangeability
Anonymous Reader posits:
Rollo
…men who cannot wrap their heads around the very simple, accepted truths you describe about your approach towards women. They think there must be something more to it.Often because they’ve been told since they were toddlers that there is “more to it”, also known as the Blue Pill.
They think in their preconditioned equalist mindset that women are wired for the same introspection and development that men are.
Exactly so and very important. The feminist fallacy of “interchangeable” leads to this. The mental habit some men have of projecting themselves onto others, believing “Well, I’m like this, so everyone else must be also” leads to this. It is extremely frustrating to encounter female behavior that is so obviously stupid it is like catching someone peeing in the kitchen sink.
Many betaized men will put up with bad behavior for far too long, then have a major blowout of anger and expect behavioral change. That doesn’t work with toddlers or dogs or women. Constant, low key, correction does work. Neuroplasticity points to a “why”; daily reiteration of a desired habit works better than once per week, etc.
It’s important to recognize the difference between real introspection and brooding or ruminating, too. Some women will brood over wrongs done but not connect that up with their own behavior. That’s not introspection. That’s not “failure analysis”. That’s rewiring neural pathways to perpetual resentment.
It is extremely difficult for an equalist, betaized man to accept the fact that women want and need to be dominated, because they for sure would hate and resent that. It is even worse for the churchgoing men, because the equalist chant from the conservative feminists in churches is almost always slathered with a layer of “sisterly love”.
What Anon is driving at here is my second point in Blue Pill and Red Pill men understanding the depth of their conditioning. Equalism and feminism depend on interchangeability. In order for little girls to grow up to be anything they want to be there must be an agreed upon “level playing field” from a socio-sexual point of view. This means that if little girls want to grow up to become football players and little boys want to grow up to be prima ballerinas there (at least ostensibly) must be an agreed upon equalist environment in which this can happen.
The egalitarian ideal the Blue Pill conditions us to believe is possible presumes there is a mutually agreeable state of intersexual equality. In reality this state is entirely contradictory to our evolved sexual strategies and our biological realities, but in theory, an egalitarian ideal can only exist in an environment that is deemed equal by both men and women. If such a state were possible, if evolved influences of our biological realities for both sexes were non-factors, then this state would also presume a mutual interchangeability between the sexes.
The combination of our equalist conditioning and this interchangeability is the root of much of the dysfunction we see between men and women today. Because we are taught all-is-one, because we presume we’re all the same except for the plumbing, there is also a presumption of uniformity of purpose between the sexes. Equalism is really just the religion of the Feminine Imperative, but it hides behind this feminine-primary advertising that men and women are playing by a mutually agreed upon set of rules, striving for mutually agreed (Blue Pill) goals and all in spite of our natural predilection or any competitiveness. No other social condition in the history of mankind could place women in a more socially controlling position than Hypergamy excused by equalism.
In such a state women can mandate their unilateral control over Hypergamy, but there is one downside – men expect a mutual interchangeability. Blue Pill men actually expect women to play by that mutuality of purpose. That’s the interchange. Women will still ensure that optimizing Hypergamy is the prime directive, and they’ll hide behind equalism to keep men in check and absolve themselves of the worst of their predations in doing so, but men still expect women to feel as men do. Blue Pill men believe that women can and will love them in an idealized way that runs contrary to their Hypergamous opportunism. Why? Because they were conditioned to believe, from a very early age, that interchangeability exists between men and women.
The difference between men and women’s concepts of love is a prime example of this equalist interchangeability fallacy. Men’s concept of love is rooted in idealism; love for the sake of love. This is a result of men’s outward looking idealism and existential experience being male. Women’s concept of love is rooted in opportunism. This is a result of natural solipsism and the need to optimize Hypergamy. It is intrinsic and inward looking and based on security and ensuring survival. When we introduce a condition of egalitarian equalism to men and women only one of these concepts can be the mutually correct concept. Both can exist in a natural state of complementarity between the sexes, but if all-is-one, there can only be one concept of love that decides for both sexes.
The confusion Blue Pill men have is presuming that men’s idealistic concept is the mutually accepted one. This then wars with women’s natural opportunistic concept; and by extension her intrinsic need to optimize Hypergamy. Of course, I’m under no illusion that equalism is anything more than a social utility to ensure a feminine-primary social order, but this is one illustration of how deeply conditioned equalism is what a majority of men base their intersexual understandings on.
I see this conditioning persist even amongst men I would otherwise think had a firm grasp of Red Pill awareness. As I said, they think in their preconditioned equalist mindset that women are wired for the same introspection and development that men are. They still want to hope in that Blue Pill goal of interchangeability. For all of the Red Pill and self awareness I could credit men of the MRM with, they still cling to this equalist mindset. This Blue Pill ideal of true equality between the sexes ultimately works against their best intentions since it is women who are more perfectly placed to take advantage of this ‘equality’. Once again, you will never achieve Blue Pill idealistic goals with Red Pill awareness. Most men are taught that those Blue Pill goals are worthwhile, but they are carrots proffered by the same builders of the cart who hope to get the mule to pull it.
I have read and heard the words of many otherwise brilliant, otherwise Red Pill aware men who simply cannot unlearn the falsehoods of egalitarian equalism. Nothing’s more frustrating to me than to hear a guy I have a deep respect for parrot back some meme or catchphrase of a feminine-operative social convention, or what he thinks is a funny, gender-deprecating quip that belies his ego-investment in the same equalism he just spent a book’s worth of research to debunk. I see brilliant men like Dr. Jordan Peterson, Dr. Warren Farrell or Steven Pinker, who I would hold up as guys who have a lot figured out, still rattle off the same memes I would expect to see from equalists on Facebook. I find it the height of irony that the same men who would systematically destroy the idea of the blank slate still pander to the hopes and goals of the equalists who built those goals based on a blank slate ideology.
Understanding how your prison is constructed, how it works, who your jailers are, is not the same as understanding how to escape it. It’s interesting how refined our Red Pill Lenses can become yet we still never drill down to the root beliefs that still keep us ignorantly hopeful. It’s time we embrace an ideology of true complementarity between men and women. It’s time we accept that we are not equal and in some circumstances that puts men and women at respective advantages and disadvantages based on what any challenge poses to us. It’s time we threw away the Blue Pill goals that equalism has taught us are ‘correct’ and replace them with realistic ones founded on Red Pill awareness.
@Blax
I wonder is someone wrote a book and why the Marxist media hasn’t shed much light on it?
I would think that the answer is obvious…no group in the U.S. can be leveraged who would benefit from Marxist anti-slaver advocacy for Africans. Pretty much only Christians advocate against African genocide or African slavery. Because, you know, it’s only when racism is thrown in the mix that this stuff is actually evil.
…. Strawman
@Blax The biggest difference between ” traditional ” slavery practiced in places other than America, is that slaves here were rendered non-people. No language or traditions were allowed to be kept and no law of protection applied. One was strictly a chattel commodity in strict segregation from broader society. Lol, Romans considered their white slaves to be chattel for many years. (After several slave revolts, the Romans decided that it might be smart to let their slaves buy their freedom.) The Roman head of house could put anybody to death who was a member of his household. Everyone living in… Read more »
” . . . has the side effect of expanding the labor pool.”
This is not correct. The labor pool has remained essentially constant. What has expanded is the taxable labor pool.
“Just because some people calling themselves Critical Theorists are stuck in 1965 does not make the tools useless.”
The Frankfurt School invented Critical Theory, not social criticism. Social criticism existed and was developing philosophical tools for millennia before the mid 20th century.
@Blax
…. Strawman
That argument works better if someone isn’t on point.
@Jed, you’re new here so I’ll hold your hand and do the reference work for you this time:
https://therationalmale.com/2012/03/23/moral-to-the-manosphere/
https://therationalmale.com/2011/11/28/humanism-behaviorism-and-the-amorality-of-game/
https://therationalmale.com/2016/08/30/losing-my-religion/
https://therationalmale.com/2015/11/03/christian-dread/
https://therationalmale.com/2015/08/24/jails-churches/
https://therationalmale.com/2015/04/30/the-political-is-personal/
For future reference it’s best you make use of the ‘search’ feature on the sidebar before you presume there’s something I haven’t covered before in the 14 years I’ve been writing in the ‘sphere. You’re not the first Christian to resort to guilt-laden appeals to moralistic dread with regard to Red Pill truths here.
Send InsanityBytes my love.
Palmasailor
I realised it when I started to interview them for jobs..
That’s got to be entertaining with the right mindset.
“What’s your biggest weakness?”
“oh, I’m SUCH a workaholic! ”
Rationalization capybara.
kfg It’s interesting that the Atlantic slave trade actually began as a humanitarian effort. Caribs died rather than be enslaved, so to save the Caribs the Spanish started importing slaves from Africa, where slavery was already well established and accepted as part of life. On the sugar islands of Nevis and St. Kitts the British found that indentured Europeans tended to die of tropical diseases pretty quickly. Word got back to England that the trip to the sugar islands was one-way. Soon it was almost impossible to get workers to the sugar islands. At that time sugar was incredibly profitable.… Read more »
Deselby The Frankfurt School and postmodernists lived in a world where Jim Crow and SOME death camps existed. FIFY. As far as the Frankenfurters were concerned, the death camps of the Gulag did not exist. To this day getting lefists to even admit Solzhenitsyn was right, or that the Red Khmer were a horrible disaster is a major uphill push. Because death camps aren’t death camps when your side does it. Then they’re just “re-education centers”. Or as your Saint Karl put it in the Manifesto, “labor batallions will be formed”. Karl Marx’s premises were false. That’s why he had… Read more »
Finishing up The Witch of Blackbird Pond and will try Captain Blood next.
Some of the most interesting book recs I get in this place.
@Jed Sorry to disappoint, but Red Pill truths work regardless of your religious leanings or lack thereof. I can attest to it. I read your book and found it wanting. I read Rollo’s book and got results. Your book had the first 20 some odd years of my life to get results, his has had only a couple and gave me a set of ideas to completely turn my shit around. The guy’s got Christian leanings, but not trying to soak his books in them means he can help a wider range of men. That’s far more important at the… Read more »
RE: the ‘Moldylocks’ interview. I watched several live feeds of Saturday’s protests riots in Berkeley and actually caught the fist-to-face shot live. The guy pulled his punch and never made a real connection, as evidenced by her unblemished model face here. I only find this girl notable because she was model quality good looking and then contracted feminism/trans/leftism and the shift to hairy pussy porn star was so stark. There were dozens of men who took much harder shots to the jaw in the same scrum she was in, but CBS chose to interview her for 7 minutes. Men on… Read more »
Captain Blood focuses on intra-national slavery (although the protagonist is Irish in origin for a bit of subtle racial tension). The Sea Hawk focuses on Christian vs Muslim (with a soupcon of Protestant vs. Catholic given the Elizabethan setting) slavery. The protagonist earns his knighthood as a privateer against the Spanish Armada, is captured by the Spanish, then the Barbary Pirates, made a galley slave (see the issue of chattel ownership) and becomes a Muslim Barbary pirate himself. ” The galley to which our gentleman was dispatched was a vessel of fifty oars, each manned by seven men. They were… Read more »
@MarquisDeStade
You don’t. Demonstrate, don’t explicate. People in general have been trained to respond violently to challenging the equalism narrative directly. Be an example and others will eventually follow when they see your success.
“The guy pulled his punch and never made a real connection . . .”
The first thought that entered my mind was, “Lady, if the dude was trying to hurt you, you would have been dead before you hit the ground. You still have no idea what it is to be really punched.”
He just overran her while giving himself some protection. Her own efforts didn’t move him a millimeter. Even with the sap glove he probably barely registered the punch.
And of course she was wearing the sap glove because she was just there to take pictures.
@ Reader
Sugar->rum->slaves was the trading tripod.
@Jed
The knowledge that Rollo provides, both in theory and real world applicability, is the most focused and structured red pill content out there. Religion is cool, and does not have to be mutually exclusive of the red pill, but please don’t pollute this place with ChristCuckery.
asdgamer
Sugar->rum->slaves was the trading tripod.
That is the North American triangle trade of the 18th and early 19th century.
The English were growing sugar on Nevis / St. Kitts over a century earlier beginning around 1630. First with the indentured from England, then with purchased Africans.
“There is not a mark on her. This can be no more than a day or two later. It’s beyond Machiavellian on her part because she’s not really working some diabolical angle. Reality has been changed by the workings of her mind. She believes her version of events unreservedly. If I’m not mistaken this is exactly how the matrix works. This is the hamster. They can all do this. It will never change.”
It’s my sons 13th birthday this month. I happen to be buying him a hamster, so he can study it very carefully.
“I happen to be buying him a hamster, so he can study it very carefully.”
Buy a female and breed it, so he can observe the “natural nurturing” that females innately have at close range.
I was in the pit at Anthrax and Slayer last October, it was more violent than the scrum Moldylocks was in.
Rollo
Men on both sides got much worse, but only when a pretty blonde gets lightly socked is it shocking.
Meh, bottle blonde who’s not all that pretty. She’s heading for the Wall with increasing velocity.
But of course the media interviews her, because “Don’t hit me, I’m a girl!” and so forth.
One more time for the slow learning lurkers: the video of Moldylocks shows sexual dimorphism very clearly. Women are not men with boobs. Muscle mass, bone mass alone are different.
That means men and women are not interchangeable and Equalism is a crock.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I0YWA2O/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1#reader_B00I0YWA2O
The Marxist private militia has been called out… treading where city and state authorities will not… Cal State Stanislaus to investigate white supremacist student who punched woman in Berkeley melee Janice Curtin, a spokeswoman for Cal State Stanislaus, said in an email to the Times on Monday that the university was not contacted by police but that Junn had received email and Twitter messages beginning Saturday. As part of its investigation, the university’s Police Department will be in contact with Berkeley police, she said. University leadership and campus legal counsel will be assembling teams to determine how to handle the… Read more »
Rollo
http://wp.me/pXWyH-btT
“University leadership and campus legal counsel will be assembling teams to determine how to handle the situation . . .”
Welcome to the Cultural Revolution, Brothers. And for reasons that escape me, they never seem to learn that the first wave of revolutionaries come from the universities, but are the first wave up against a wall should they win.
@Anonymous I completely agree on the importance of testosterone for men’s mental health. In fact, when a man has female levels of testosterone, he will generally be a lot MORE neurotic than the average woman. That is because he went through puberty as a man, which means he has far higher testosterone requirements for the rest of his life (eunuchs cut before puberty do not seem to experience the symptoms of low testosterone). A man who goes through puberty and later has his testosterone levels reduced to female levels, will be quite depressed as a result. So that’s what I… Read more »
For so called red pill men that are (((triggered))) by berkeley street theater, that is the SF bay area. There’s been a protest of the month there since the 1960s. Its a running joke. The riots in Oakland after the Raiders lost the Super Bowel were bigger than that. Its kind of beta to be obsessing over it.
Guest (Troll) We’re enjoying seeing anarchofags getting beaten and a rotten cunt getting what she asked for. So there is that, which is nice.
“…any woman who falls for a Red Pill man must, by definition, be lacking in self esteem, self respect, low quality, etc.” Mrs. EhIntellect has been accused of being brainwashed, alcoholic, delusional, scared, abused. All this as she has and is following me further from BP tropes and conventions, away from socially acceptable marriage arrangements. I picked up locums work. Pays much better. More importantly allows for professional, personal freedom. Cool. Telling this to a female relative (she’s been through two husbands, roaring twenties, ‘nuff said). Me: “I’ll be out of town, taking my oldest with and the rest will… Read more »
Sentient = keyboard warrior
@ Artisanal Toad
April 17, 2017 at 7:15 pm
Thank you for your post.
I have really really enjoyed your elaboration and agree whole-hearted !!
Please feel free to contribute here more often.
@Guest
Says the guy who rolls out the (((anti-semitic scarentheses))). Christ.
“Guest”
http://i.giphy.com/l0Iy8Vok5QnA3xklO.gif
lolz. street theater…
On a snide note… I didn’t know Marc Maron was a Antifag… makes sense though.
always bring large caliber firearms to a stick/knife fight.
The thing is as a “Christian” the Word of God already makes crystal-clear the “Red Pill reality” of inter-sexual relational dynamics in this sin-cursed natural real world. What off puts me and believers who know the Word of God is that like many men here they use all these same reasons of the “Feminine Imperative”, “female hypergamy” and “female solipsism” as sneaky, deceitful self-serving reasons to manipulate and really “use women” for the “one good treat” they have which is SEX. Just because the natural Red Pill reality is ugly and brunt in it’s nature doesn’t give men (or women)… Read more »
Maybe 1 day I’ll go back and re-read the bible again for like, the 10th time, because all I ever hear about is the ” Sin of Sex “. If memory serves me, there’s a whole bunch of other stuff believers aren’t supposed to do, but you never hear about those things.
Hmmmm……
“There’s a good reason why God only reserves the “sexual intercourse” privilege in the *MARRIAGE* and no where else in life.”
Call me Ishmael.
Jed Mask
The thing is as a “Christian” the Word of God already makes crystal-clear the “Red Pill reality” of inter-sexual relational dynamics in this sin-cursed natural real world.
Then you are wasting your time here. Because there are thousands upon thousands of churches that are blue pill, that have the ideal inter-sexual relations should consist of men appeasing women, men serving women, men bowing down before women, men groveling under women’s feet, and so forth. You should be taking your deep knowledge to the nearest church and leading men out of their woman-worship. If you are serious.
Bro. Jed A man can do everything by the book within his marriage and his wife can decide to just leave him for other men, or for any other reason. Society will not judge her for this and will usually let her take the kids and force you to pay her way, while she has fun living outside of your idealized marriage. I respect your faith, but you are avoiding the issues men are dealing with here, which fall especially heavily on men who are religious. Men should at least know the huge risk they are taking… that society does… Read more »
@Palma Sailor:
He didn’t say female.
The thing is as a “Christian” the Word of God already makes crystal-clear the “Red Pill reality” of inter-sexual relational dynamics in this sin-cursed natural real world. The funny thing is you think you’re actually bringing something novel to the discussion with this. This is almost verbatim what every Christian guy has ever started with when they read Red Pill truths from secular sources – “Christianity was always Red Pill, Christians did this all before this.” I’ve written over and over about this. Christianity has been coopted and assimilated by feminism and the Feminine Imperative to the point that it’s… Read more »
Jed, might I suggest you reach out to Mark Driscoll or Dale Partridge with your concerns first?
https://twitter.com/RationalMale/status/852045633724624898
Jed Mask, let me put it another way. One thing that men learn from the Red Pill is this: pay attention to what women do, not what they say. This works on more than just girls.
Mother’s Day is coming up. A whole lot of churches will have some sort of to-do, a big encouraging sermon, maybe special meals. Then in June, Father’s Day happens. In a lot of churches, there will be a big “YOU MEN NEED TO SHAPE UP!” sermon.
We watch what churches do, Jed, and pay more attention to that than what churchgoers say.
I note that anti-theist Christopher Hitchens believed in the probability of a historical Jesus because women were cited as giving testimony to his rising; absolutely unthinkable without some major social influence to allow it.
@Reader
In a lot of churches, there will be a big “YOU MEN NEED TO SHAPE UP!” sermon.
Well that’s true, as far as it goes. Unfortunately there is some a whole lotta confusion about what it means for men to shape up.
I’ve been having quite a few conversations with feminists and lesbians latley and not by design more so by chance. The conversation always comes to this subject. Women want men to believe we are all the same so men can support women and thier goals, while women remain focused on thier own goals. At the end of the day, the man thats the most dangerous to them isn’t the one confidently challenging this position. It’s the one that actually believes that garbage. He’s the one that will do something extreme to prove his worth becuae he’s tired of either being… Read more »
@Bro. Jed: You are very close to understanding. Yet I’d suggest delving further: everything flows from the first commandment. Rather, the first commandment is a restatement of right relationship with the Creator. Thus fornication – intercourse between an Israelite and non-Israelite – is to join God’s portion to what is not chosen. Likewise, adultery is an Israelite male and Israelite female colluding to foist a conception on an unsuspecting Israelite husband.
What is the first commandment? “You shall not let yourself be defrauded nor be a fraud.” That’s pretty Red Pill.
Indignant Christian men arguing the merits of faith, church…why not demonstrate, rather than explicate? It should sell itself, no?
Why are the pews empty? Men find zero incentive there.
Re; Critical Theory: Anonymous Reader hit the nail squarely: application of Critical Theory is a series of syllogisms based off of untested, and usually untestable, premises. While such papers are often beautiful displays of logic (and possibly fun to compose) there really is no use for such papers outside of academics.
TRM, on the other hand, relies on anecdotal observation or empirical observation – either way is a testable premise. Plus the writing is far superior not to mention the acerbic commentary..
Moldylocks is a spitfire, at least when she’s not playing a poor, innocent young girl on television. You go gurl. She’s also got a deck of the standard shaming language flash cards, and she’s not afraid to use them: We get it Nathan, you’re a betamale with mommy issues • Independent Model • Photographer • Free Soul • ANTIFA • V • Queer • Polyamorous • Spitfire• From her Instagram modelling account. Yeah, a “model.” The chan hordes have been busy and it turns out she’s an awful lot of things, although I don’t think writer is among them. Maybe… Read more »
“Why are the pews empty? Men find zero incentive there.” I left the pews empty quite a while ago. I really liked the concept of Church. Until I didn’t find incentive there as a male. I had a delightful Catholic upbringing. I don’t remember one bad thing about it (except for being lectured to, the verba non acta.) After hearing one too many lectures in my profession, I came to resent being lectured to when I actually didn’t need a lesson. I’m wondering what EhIntellect and Rollo have to say about their actual participation in the Church. How does that… Read more »
@SJF
My participation is minimal beyond weekly Mass, tithing.
My church social connections aren’t what they once were since I started commenting here.
Duplicity isn’t my strong suit.
Heaven is the kinda place where Dale Partridge gets off his I phone and preaches to Jedadia Maskowits,then they team up and go out to misionary to Moldylocks.
Do not pray in public like these rather make your prayers in private! no thats not it.
Let he that is without sin cast the first stone! no thats not it.
My fathers house has many rooms! no to much privacy.
How can you see to pick the spec from your brothers eye when there is a log in your eye.
@EhIntellect
Understood. You are a good man.
Church. I spent a lot of time in church(es) in my youth. I was being groomed to be part of the next generation of Deacons. I really loved a good sermon, but I never, ever cared for any of the pomp and circumstance stuff. I was called a ” heathen ” on many occasions by some of the sweet old churchladies because of my style of dress and choice of haircut ( giant afro…hey, it was the 60’s. Don’t judge..lol ), and the hypocrisy left a nasty, bitter taste in my mouth. I studied the bible on my own and… Read more »
I am the quintessential Sinner and Saint.
“Cause saints and sinners,
Are quite the same.”
Mr. Loco – Religious Man
@Rollo “Christian guys were supposed to have a lock on Red Pill truths, but then along comes TRP, PUAs and the manosphere to point out how tooled they really are and it pisses them off because they should know better. We’ve had this conversation 100 times here, at Donalgraeme’s and Dalrock’s blogs. So Jed, go read those posts I linked you before you make an even bigger fool of yourself. I don’t like to see Christian men get owned any more than you do, but if you insist on posting from a position of ignorance there’s not much I can… Read more »
@ SJF
Rollo never gives details on his participation, but I think he actually goes to church. I have too much respect for him to ask him about his participation.
What about you Eh?
HEY!
Hey!
‘Finding Darwin’s God’ by Kenneth Miller actually doesn’t need more explanation.
And an Alpha finds a way to socialize in situations where he really doesn’t want to be a Sigma wolf.
Ask me how I know that over the last couple decades and at the country club social scene.
It takes some doing. Without a thought. Being and doing without thinking.
In competence phases of Mastery, repetition seems to be a thing.
I have always been impressed by the lyrics of a song by The Tragically Hip. It’s called Wheat Kings. For context about what the song is is actually about: This song is about David Milgaard, a Canadian man who served 23 years in prison for a crime he did not commit. Milgaard was convicted of raping and murdering a woman named Gail Miller when he was 16 and sentenced to life in prison. It was a travesty of justice, as the case against him was built on flimsy evidence. Milgaard’s family believed he was innocent and fought for him while… Read more »
I appear to have accidentally dropped in on politics and racism blog. Shame such a great article has degenerated into this mess of petty big
bickering
Rollo
http://edlatimore.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=ef1962eb46697805d9fa2476a&id=a933b3080e&e=920ba0a911
http://wp.me/p6SXrP-jzF
http://wp.me/p6SXrP-jyT
@Weminuche45: Agreed. The “red pill of politics” is really just another form of beta male hamstering.
Checking out Artisinal Toad’s block and I can feel my paranoia coming back. I used to be extremely religious and I guess I’m impressionable when it comes to that stuff. And reading through his stuff here has me fucked up because I’m thinking it’s all true: https://artisanaltoadshall.wordpress.com/sexual-morality/ I could go on about everything I’ve been going through lately but it would take too long. I am barely keeping my head above water. I don’t want to feel like the only tool I have is a hammer, so everything starts looking like a nail, but…. …it really all does seem traceable… Read more »
https://soundcloud.com/realmarkbaxter/016-artful-man
Let me add that I also checked this out, and felt very inspired: https://artisanaltoadshall.wordpress.com/strategy-for-men-of-the-west/ Started writing down my own goal list and 20 minutes into it I’m already feeling better. TRP has been taking years to seep into my mind and grow roots. Part of the extreme anxiety and fear I feel are simply imagining who I would be if I let go of my Blue Pill conditioning. It’s simultaneously gut wrenching and exciting. Rollo’s articles are easy to read passively. But when you really sit with them and absorb how they’re speaking directly about YOU and YOUR CONDITIONING: it’s… Read more »
There’s enough feminised men for equalism (at least culturally) to exist.
The White men among us should come to terms with how there’s something about Euopean civilizations that inclines them towards putting women on a higher status until culminating in a feminist movement. Women have long held a peculiar position within the Europe. This can be seen from the significantly higher amount of European women who ruled in their own names and sexes (as opposed to Dowagers or taking a masculine title), directed troops, all without being a mythological character ala Mulan. This is also the case for the enforcement of monogamy. This is something that eludes the likes of both… Read more »
@maldus
Apex fallacy
Concern trolls can concern themselves elsewhere.
@SJF
‘Finding Darwin’s God’ by Kenneth Miller actually doesn’t need more explanation.
Yeah, it just needs a better argument. lol Miller is easy to take down.
“This is a hard step for most guys because it requires he shift his opinion of himself and risk being called a selfish asshole.” Lately I’ve been openly telling people, especially women, that I take being called an asshole a compliment. The funny part is most times they have no response and I walk away or shift the conversation to another topic. I grossly underestimated the deeply embedded blue pill thinking within me. Unplugging is taking longer than I thought, but frequent encouragement from others who tell me to have lower hurdles helps. One step at a time, walk before… Read more »
@softek
Rollo’s articles are easy to read passively. But when you really sit with them and absorb how they’re speaking directly about YOU and YOUR CONDITIONING: it’s like a bomb went off.
I get where you’re coming from. I’m currently re-reading best of year series (year 3 now). Sometimes pondering a single paragraph does wonders. I find as an ex-BP’er articles re-reading the articles will turn up a detail or two relevant to my actual situation right now. When that happens it’s like an oh shit moment.
“Let me know when you’ve employed a couple of hundred of each.”
Now you’ve switched the goalpost to “employment”. Employment is watching people on the day to day. That would be a good reference for behavior pattern. By contrast, the job interview process (your example) isn’t.
There is an old saying, “If I’m trying to sell you something, you can wear whatever you want. If you’re trying to sell me something, put on a fucking tie.”
The interviewee is trying to obtain employment in this situation (hint: that’s the seller), the interviewer is the “buyer” in this scenario. It’s not the place the seller is going to answer a lot of genuinely introspective personal questions about his/herself.
“Yeah, it just needs a better argument. lol Miller is easy to take down.” Yeah, but in my book religion is a belief system. And Ideology. And I’d be more inclined to Churchianism if I had a need or was catered to more properly (in regards to tribal benefits). The belief system and ideology are not the same as the Church experience. My point was I liked my church as a by product of my school system (grade school, high school, and college). And I don’t have cognitive dissonance about participating or participation in church affairs. I don’t need to… Read more »
@SJF
“Let’s see what tomorrow brings.”
The movie ‘Castaway’ was a bit of a flop and message of the main character’s one-itis being his savior was nauseating, but there was one line that I carry with me because it encapsulates my belief in abundance and outcome independence…
“And I know what I have to do now. I gotta keep breathing because tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?”
@SJF
Yeah, but in my book religion is a belief system.
In my book, faith is tightly bound to epistemology…religion and faith are loosely connected.
Most people’s epistemology is codswallop. I dug deep to put mine together.
@SJF
For me, “religion” is the human component and “faith” is the system of metaphysical beliefs. I do Sunday School because I have friends there and studiously avoid church.
Funny thing…in the days of the apostles, churches met in private homes among the greeks, assuming that the jewish Christians met in the Temple or in synagogues…attendance in each church would have been much lower and there would have been more socializing.
You can find references to greek house churches scattered among the epistles.
>Apex fallacy
I’m failing to see the issue here. Is this supposed to show that women haven’t had a distinct status with the European world? What do you call Chivalry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bHf6j1T5o
further on Bottle Girl of Berzerkeley
Looks like Antifa girl no longer is being pushed by leftists…she has disappeared from my news feed.
Equality – Equality in any relationship is possible only when there is equal and reciprocal acceptance of individual responsibility. Those who do not accept responsibility are never trusted or respected to the same extent as those who do. The nature of individual responsibility is specifically defined by the real constitution of each individual. Each individual’s constitution establishes the abilities and limitations of the specific individual. One cannot be held responsible for something that is impossible for one to control. The limitations and abilities are established by “the universe” whether they are physiological, biological, or “innate”. Equality is a subjective perception… Read more »
Feminism has been given the opportunity to shirk reproductive responsibilities due to widely available risk free permission to commit fetal homicide and total control of mans reproductive opportunities. But that opportunity does not absolve woman’s responsibility to man and the human race.
“They think there must be something more to it. They think in their preconditioned equalist mindset that women are wired for the same introspection and development that men are.” Men want there to be more to it. Something he’s worked so hard to get (unless he’s an Adonis) must have some greater definition. Otherwise, what was the point of all the sacrifices he’s made for her and will continue to make? When a woman has a child with a man she answers this very doubt. The notion of equalism has been a slow creep. When you hear Sinead O’ Connor… Read more »
Fun facts, not disputing Ollie’s point at all, just a bit of hyrstery:
Prince originally wrote the song for another group, then let Sinead cover it. According to Pitchfork, after it broke wide open, he groused that he didn’t like the way she sang it. He didn’t return the paycheck though.
We can stipulate poor little Sinead was and is stark staring bonkers, but maybe that Irish hyper emotionality was what made that particular performance so powerful.
This essay sparked a mind blowing realization for me. Yesterday I was listening to a blogger talking about Antifa Girl, then I saw a video by Camille Paglia on how women need to stop blaming men. By the time I read this essay I was already wondering, Why do women blame men (for everything)? I mean, for example, no matter how good women have it here in the US, it’s never enough. They say, “We still have far to go.” What the F does that mean? They’ve achieved everything except becoming President and Vice-President – and only failed at that… Read more »
Why do women blame men (for everything)?
Because women suck at self-actualization.
Bill O’Reilly got fired from Fox. Never watched the show for more than a few seconds in some bank line, but far as I can tell he got accused of harassment by some number of women. It’s probably true. Comments?
@Zion, this was going to be my next post actually. What we believe is just women being women, what we dismiss as women’s fickleness and many other aspects of women’s nature all find their roots in how the sexes evolved to interact and interdepend on one another. Feminism will never find satisfaction because women are not designed to ever be ‘satisfied’. Hypergamy is founded upon doubt and an endless drive for complete security. Largely the burden of that security need has always been placed upon men. But even when women can adequately pacify that security need themselves there will always… Read more »
“Q. What do women want? A1. More. A2. Who cares?” Women haven’t reached equality. That a few may reach the apex positions of traditionally masculine roles by behaving in more masculine ways doesn’t show the capability, generally, of the average woman (that is, the two thirds of the population within one standard deviation). They may play at cop or boss or doctor etc, but rarely are they held to the same standard of a man, nor held accountable for their mistakes in a similar fashion. Women love to weild power and authority, but they shun the responsibility that goes with… Read more »
” Unilateral control and unquestioned capacity to optimize Hypergamy will always depend on men. This is why Hypergamy is legislated in our laws, to force men’s compliance with women’s prime directive…”
Yup. Like I said before, men bear the lion’s share of the responsibility for the ongoing clusterfuck. Legislated with a bright shade of blue. Bowing to the whims of women that will never stop asking for ever more.
I was watching a clip on YouTube the other week, a compilation of the British version of Survivor UK called The Island. Hilarious to watch a group of grown women trying to make it in the jungle compared to a group of men. The women are cold, wet, hungry and miserable, half are lost, whilst the men are warm, fed and happy (there’s a scene where they capture and butcher a large crocodile FFS). One scene in particular struck me. The women’s exploration group is always lost. They were going slowly, the “leader” always seeking consensus, until at one point… Read more »
Blue Pill Conditioning. @EhIntellect Young men naturally adopt RP when given authority’s nod. This is a key statement. Young men don’t “think there must be something more to it.” They don’t yet know what the something more might be. They can take RP knowledge on board, see it play out in real time and easily connect the dots. If authority is giving them the nod, it gives them confidence and a real chance to avoid the BP prison altogether. The problem is that the RP aware authority they need will be one or two older men if they’re lucky. Most… Read more »
“We still have far to go.” a.k.a. “Yes we can!”
Cat talk.
“Can what?”
Dog talk.
SJW, feminist obfuscation, covert language. BP, feminized men fill in the sexual blanks as reality is heavy lifting. The thought of negotiated sex is better than outright rejection.
Apex Cat beta-baiting dogs:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/10/19/madonna-vote-hillary-clinton-will-give-blowjb/
The problem in my estimation, is that many men get way too caught up in what the wimminz are doing. As I’ve stated before, that’s a distraction. The thing is to gain understanding of the fuckery afoot, then watch and plan a course of action. If not, men will find themselves spinning to and fro much as chicks do. Men are not women, even though we are all landlocked for the time being, in a feminine primary society. Steady boys….. keep your masculine bearings. The latest, newest ” thing ” is the SJW. There will be another to follow soon,… Read more »
“What is the approximate age window between these two poles?” Quick and dirty? As early as possible. Dads being living RP examples, ZFG. I’ve raised my three rather different boys with different tactics. One required more time for information processing, he had to have all bases covered before feeling comfortable. The 2 others, are much easier, as I became an RP man they could believe, no act, with positive results. They see how Mrs. Eh reacts. Everyone here benefits. As a side note the Idaho child on child rape-y case is an example of highly sexualized children taking advantage of… Read more »