Blue Pill Conditioning and Equalism

Rational reader Playdontpay had a very poignant comment in last week’s thread:

I’ll stick with the “boner test”. Women are only playthings anyway!
Do I enjoy fucking her? After sex is she good feminine company? This is all I need to know, if shit goes sideways I’ll just get another one.

She’s only going to lie and present a fictional version of herself based on what she thinks you’re looking for anyways. Women don’t do real self improvement they just convince themselves that they already are “better” because if she can’t convince herself it will be more difficult for her to sell it to you.

She will rewrite her sexual history and “because she’s a different person now”, well, that’s the way she has always been. Stop taking them so seriously, how are you going to vet a Machiavellian liar that’s been learning game from the age of 12?

His perspective on women is exactly why I tell men to avoid marriage altogether even though I’ve had a fantastic marriage myself for over 20 years. A lot of my haters, and more than a few supporters often get hung up on this.

Most of the criticism I get for writing what I do and still maintaining a good relationship with Mrs. T comes from men who cannot wrap their heads around the very simple, accepted truths described in this approach towards women. They think there must be something more to it. They think in their preconditioned equalist mindset that women are wired for the same introspection and development that men are. So, naturally, the easy presumption is that any self respecting woman would never put up with a Red Pill man’s outlook and approach, because they believe the blank slate lie.

If an egalitarian ideal between men and women were tenable I’d completely agree, but it isn’t. So, in order to protect their ego investments, the rationale follows that any woman who falls for a Red Pill man must, by definition, be lacking in self esteem, self respect, low quality, etc. They believe that because anything else destroys their equalist fantasy world. This stems from a much deeper, root level, ego-investment in egalitarianism and I think this is a perspective a lot of Red Pill aware men have a tough time with to say nothing of men still plugged into the Blue Pill world view.

If you’ve read me for any length of time you’ll know I’m rarely prescriptive in my writing. I’ve always been of the belief that men need to find ways to utilize Red Pill awareness of intersexual dynamics for themselves on an individual basis. However, I will say that there are certain general aspects of that awareness and how to put it into something applicable in a man’s life that seem self-evident to me. First and foremost among these generalities is that in killing your inner Beta and disabusing oneself of his Blue Pill conditioning, a man needs to understand that the foundational belief that informed and defined his Blue Pill existence is equalism. The presumption that an idealized, blank-slate egalitarian state between the sexes is both possible and desirable informs all Blue Pill beliefs that follow it.

This equalist presumption often forms the mental point of origin for most Blue Pill men. Ostensibly, this mental prioritization of some equal state between the sexes is what most Blue Pill guys will tell you attracts women. This notion is also fundamental to Blue Pill guys’ drive for identifying their own psyches with the feminine and forms the basis of Beta Game.

Transitioning this early equalist ideology to a sexual strategy is a simple, deductive process for men. Little boys are raised on feminine primacy memes and the narrative of Fempowerment, all the while being conditioned to believe that, beyond some insignificant biology, boys and girls are identical beings with the same potential and proficiencies. It’s gotten to the point where this process is normalized and pushed to the backgrounds of most people’s consciousness. We’ll raise boys in feminine-primary educational standards, we’ll teach them they’re the same as girls, but we’ll also teach them they’re defective for not aligning themselves with girls, for not getting in touch with their feminine sides.

I’m fleshing this process out a bit here because unlearning this equalist’s mental point of origin is a key transition in a man’s unplugging. Often the hardest part of killing the Beta and accepting Red Pill awareness is replacing equalism with oneself as a mental point of origin. This is a hard step for most guys because it requires he shift his opinion of himself and risk being called a selfish asshole. Remember, anything that would disagree with or challenge the idea of intersexual egalitarianism will always be equated with misogyny, intolerance, tyranny, etc. Questioning the validity of equalism (however it’s applied) will always be countered with a  binary extreme.

This is exactly why Playdontpay’s comment appears so outrageous and self-indulgent to anyone not Red Pill aware. HIs pragmatism will be conflated with anger.

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Rollo
…men who cannot wrap their heads around the very simple, accepted truths you describe about your approach towards women. They think there must be something more to it.

Often because they’ve been told since they were toddlers that there is “more to it”, also known as the Blue Pill.

They think in their preconditioned equalist mindset that women are wired for the same introspection and development that men are.

Exactly so and very important. The feminist fallacy of “interchangeable” leads to this. The mental habit some men have of projecting themselves onto others, believing “Well, I’m like this, so everyone else must be also” leads to this. It is extremely frustrating to encounter female behavior that is so obviously stupid it is like catching someone peeing in the kitchen sink.

Many betaized men will put up with bad behavior for far too long, then have a major blowout of anger and expect behavioral change. That doesn’t work with toddlers or dogs or women. Constant, low key, correction does work. Neuroplasticity points to a “why”; daily reiteration of a desired habit works better than once per week, etc.

It’s important to recognize the difference between real introspection and brooding or ruminating, too. Some women will brood over wrongs done but not connect that up with their own behavior. That’s not introspection. That’s not “failure analysis”. That’s rewiring neural pathways to perpetual resentment.

It is extremely difficult for an equalist, betaized man to accept the fact that women want and need to be dominated, because they for sure would hate and resent that. It is even worse for the churchgoing men, because the equalist chant from the conservative feminists in churches is almost always slathered with a layer of “sisterly love”.

What Anon is driving at here is my second point in Blue Pill and Red Pill men understanding the depth of their conditioning. Equalism and feminism depend on interchangeability. In order for little girls to grow up to be anything they want to be there must be an agreed upon “level playing field” from a socio-sexual point of view. This means that if little girls want to grow up to become football players and little boys want to grow up to be prima ballerinas there (at least ostensibly) must be an agreed upon equalist environment in which this can happen.

The egalitarian ideal the Blue Pill conditions us to believe is possible presumes there is a mutually agreeable state of intersexual equality. In reality this state is entirely contradictory to our evolved sexual strategies and our biological realities, but in theory, an egalitarian ideal can only exist in an environment that is deemed equal by both men and women. If such a state were possible, if evolved influences of our biological realities for both sexes were non-factors, then this state would also presume a mutual interchangeability between the sexes.

The combination of our equalist conditioning and this interchangeability is the root of much of the dysfunction we see between men and women today. Because we are taught all-is-one, because we presume we’re all the same except for the plumbing, there is also a presumption of uniformity of purpose between the sexes. Equalism is really just the religion of the Feminine Imperative, but it hides behind this feminine-primary advertising that men and women are playing by a mutually agreed upon set of rules, striving for mutually agreed (Blue Pill) goals and all in spite of our natural predilection or any competitiveness. No other social condition in the history of mankind could place women in a more socially controlling position than Hypergamy excused by equalism.

In such a state women can mandate their unilateral control over Hypergamy, but there is one downside – men expect a mutual interchangeability. Blue Pill men actually expect women to play by that mutuality of purpose. That’s the interchange. Women will still ensure that optimizing Hypergamy is the prime directive, and they’ll hide behind equalism to keep men in check and absolve themselves of the worst of their predations in doing so, but men still expect women to feel as men do. Blue Pill men believe that women can and will love them in an idealized way that runs contrary to their Hypergamous opportunism. Why? Because they were conditioned to believe, from a very early age, that interchangeability exists between men and women.

The difference between men and women’s concepts of love is a prime example of this equalist interchangeability fallacy. Men’s concept of love is rooted in idealism; love for the sake of love. This is a result of men’s outward looking idealism and existential experience being male. Women’s concept of love is rooted in opportunism. This is a result of natural solipsism and the need to optimize Hypergamy. It is intrinsic and inward looking and based on security and ensuring survival. When we introduce a condition of egalitarian equalism to men and women only one of these concepts can be the mutually correct concept. Both can exist in a natural state of complementarity between the sexes, but if all-is-one, there can only be one concept of love that decides for both sexes.

The confusion Blue Pill men have is presuming that men’s idealistic concept is the mutually accepted one. This then wars with women’s natural opportunistic concept; and by extension her intrinsic need to optimize Hypergamy. Of course, I’m under no illusion that equalism is anything more than a social utility to ensure a feminine-primary social order, but this is one illustration of how deeply conditioned equalism is what a majority of men base their intersexual understandings on.

I see this conditioning persist even amongst men I would otherwise think had a firm grasp of Red Pill awareness. As I said, they think in their preconditioned equalist mindset that women are wired for the same introspection and development that men are. They still want to hope in that Blue Pill goal of interchangeability. For all of the Red Pill and self awareness I could credit men of the MRM with, they still cling to this equalist mindset. This Blue Pill ideal of true equality between the sexes ultimately works against their best intentions since it is women who are more perfectly placed to take advantage of this ‘equality’. Once again, you will never achieve Blue Pill idealistic goals with Red Pill awareness. Most men are taught that those Blue Pill goals are worthwhile, but they are carrots proffered by the same builders of the cart who hope to get the mule to pull it.

I have read and heard the words of many otherwise brilliant, otherwise Red Pill aware men who simply cannot unlearn the falsehoods of egalitarian equalism. Nothing’s more frustrating to me than to hear a guy I have a deep respect for parrot back some meme or catchphrase of a feminine-operative social convention, or what he thinks is a funny, gender-deprecating quip that belies his ego-investment in the same equalism he just spent a book’s worth of research to debunk. I see brilliant men like Dr. Jordan Peterson, Dr. Warren Farrell or Steven Pinker, who I would hold up as guys who have a lot figured out, still rattle off the same memes I would expect to see from equalists on Facebook. I find it the height of irony that the same men who would systematically destroy the idea of the blank slate still pander to the hopes and goals of the equalists who built those goals based on a blank slate ideology.

Understanding how your prison is constructed, how it works, who your jailers are, is not the same as understanding how to escape it. It’s interesting how refined our Red Pill Lenses can become yet we still never drill down to the root beliefs that still keep us ignorantly hopeful. It’s time we embrace an ideology of true complementarity between men and women. It’s time we accept that we are not equal and in some circumstances that puts men and women at respective advantages and disadvantages based on what any challenge poses to us. It’s time we threw away the Blue Pill goals that equalism has taught us are ‘correct’ and replace them with realistic ones founded on Red Pill awareness.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

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boys and girls are identical beings

Of course they are. Boy and girls are all human beings. Both sexes think and have feelings. Both have DNA. Both have hearts, lungs, and digestive systems that are virtually the same. They only differ in their reproductive organs.

Playing Devil’s Advocate here with a Blue Pill argument I’ve heard a few times.

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“Both have DNA. Both have hearts, lungs, and digestive systems that are virtually the same. They only differ in their reproductive organs.”

When you say “both,” you’re talking about humans and chickens, right?

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A slight chuckle…if I hadn’t said “boys and girls are all human beings,” it would have been funnier.

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“It’s time we embrace an Ideology of true complementarity between men and women.”

Hell, that would be nice if the Matrix could embrace that ideology.

All this red pill Praxeology shore do make me tired!

(just kidding of course)

Great essay and perspective Rollo. Thanks.

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As a boy, unaligned with the right sort of institute, I found obtaining a supply of dead cats to be somewhat, as the kids these days are wont to say, “problematic.”

Chickens on the other hand, could be obtained simply by buying them from a corner shop, so I did my basic anatomy practicum on chickens. Aside from a few elements of reproductive organs they look pretty much like people on the inside.

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Aside from a few elements of reproductive organs they look pretty much like people on the inside.

Your knowledge of this is somehow troubling.

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Women and their mangina orbiters want equality until they actually get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BqZ_Jt8hVk Tends to change that tune to “YOU SHOULDN’T HIT GIRLS EVEN IF THEY HIT YOU” even among the most ardent Strong Independent Women ™ real quick. This is the reason I just don’t bother to give them equality to begin with. When they actually get it for better or for worse they’re unhappy. When they’re around a guy that doesn’t give it to them and instead keeps them in line, they’re quite happy in my experience. I’ve watched them go from being unhappy cast-iron ball breakers with… Read more »

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“Understanding how your prison is constructed, how it works, who your jailers are, is not the same as understanding how to escape it.”

BOOM!!!

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Wait, what? The desire for equalism from men will get you every time. Why is the Red Pill subreddit populated by butthurt guys who got blindsided by hypergamy? I believe that this desire for fairness is the hardest veil to remove not only because of cultural conditioning, but because of the abyss that it reveals. It’s the last crutch to throw away and often the most disabling. Unfortunately, when one gets to even considering this aspect, it is far too late to go back. Even if you wanted to.

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So where does this radical equalism emanate from? If you listen to the alt right, whether Vox or Spencer, they will tell you that the rot in our society lies within classical liberalism and modernity itself. Both the racist right and the true left reject classical liberalism, lol. Fyi, Rollo, it’s okay, you can start calling it “egalitarianism” now. Nobody will ever accuse you of doing politics… For those playing alone at home, here’s a quick precis on how we got here. Since the Magna Carta, anglo saxons and other Europeans have been creating space for the individual in society,… Read more »

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@scrib

I agree with your criticism of western society. I didn’t have to know about Critical Legal Theory to know that I strongly disagreed with the way that the legal system was going. However, for tactical reasons, it’s better that Rollo himself not enter the political arena. Commenters such as yourself do a fine job without Rollo.

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“As is our society. What’s saddest is that at the ground, in the most basic ways, westerners and Americans know we are circling the bowl, that’s why we aren’t reproducing at replacement levels. We hate ourselves and don’t have even the basic sense to procreate enough to keep us around.” My understanding of populations of human’s are that we are at overpopulation. And that overpopulation is best explained (as what it is doing for society) is best described in the farcical movie Idiocracy. I don’t think anyone red pill would not accept that Marxist political agenda’s are in parallel with… Read more »

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When they said “ou la mort” they were not fucking around…

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“When they said “ou la mort” they were not fucking around…”

That was a Top Down approach.

But fucking around (or in your own home) with Game garnering “La Petit Mort” is pretty damn liberating. (excepting PitBullmike and SafeSpace, of course…)

Bottoms Up approach.

Freedom from constraint for the win.

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“This is how deep the rot goes, we aren’t even talking about what’s killing us. Marxism is widespread on today’s campuses. And it’s given rise to a radical, violent feminism that adopts the revolutionary approach of Marxists. “

Exhibit A – Girl with Fist in Face. Before and after.

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“hear a guy I have a deep respect for parrot back some meme or catchphrase of a feminine-operative social convention, or what he thinks is a funny, gender-deprecating quip that belies his ego-investment in the same equalism he just spent a book’s worth of research to debunk” A list and exploration of meaning and consequences of many of these would be very valuable and instructive. My favorite, meaning most likely to make me nauseous (said by a man) or laugh hysterically (said by a woman) is “Happy wife, happy life.” Shoulder responsibility for her happiness, emotional and financial, and life… Read more »

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“let’s see how many of the supposedly smart men here know who it is”

He has had more than his four years. Perhaps you should be giving care to your bootstraps.

“If you don’t know Critical Theory is a Marxist construct, then you have no business dismissing me.”

You know, you’re really not the only one who has heard of Marcuse and Gramsci. The pedestal you have constructed for yourself is starting to get tiring.

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“Aside from a few elements of reproductive organs they look pretty much like people on the inside.” “Your knowledge of this is somehow troubling.” Remember that time in 1985 I spent a year every other weekend as an autopsy assistant? That was troubling. Bad dreams and all, every other weekend. That shit will make you more Antifragile. But it was for a good cause. Twenty five years later I knew harvested deer would pretty much look the same on the inside during field dressing. (As they say in medical training: Learn one, do one, teach one.) I still get confused… Read more »

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Heard about that punch.(Didn’t look hard at all) He may not have even known it was a girl based on the clothes and her rebellious dreads.
Plenty of men don’t understand about running up to a mob like that or how to act so nobody thinks you’re joining in the fight. I know a girl like that doesn’t.

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“I have read and heard the words of many otherwise brilliant, otherwise Red Pill aware men who simply cannot unlearn the falsehoods of egalitarian equalism. “ That’s because they don’t know where it comes from or how it got here. The feminist doctrine of equalism actually goes all the way back to 450-600 AD, when the ancient church adopted the position that men and women are held to the same standard of sexual morality. They threw out what the Bible actually says (there’s a double standard) and replaced it with the pagan belief that men and women are equal in… Read more »

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@ kfg

The trick is in understanding that one doesn’t know everything, and then reconciling that with the idea that one may not even know what he knows.

” …nothing you can know that isn’t known…” – Teh Beatles ( mightily referred to as Marxist/commie-pinkos.)

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Teh Beatles ( mightily referred to as Marxist/commie-pinkos.)

Or maybe not

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@ ASD

C’mon man. We’re both old enough to remember how mainstream Americans initially reacted to the fab five.

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I know a girl like that doesn’t.

Stop white knighting… She knew, she was the one boasting beforehand about taking 100 Nazi scalps… she was the one wearing a sap glove on her right hand (with some studding)…

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she is the one who advanced and punched first…

http://i.imgur.com/uaQSQtP.gif

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and now she is looking to raise $80k and playing the victim….

Don’t further enable this.

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Emily Rose Marshall is a member of the Oak Roots Collective of various leftist anarchist groups.

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Oh yes her main defense is she is 5’1″ and 95 lbs… she would have killed if she could…

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C’mon man. We’re both old enough to remember how mainstream Americans initially reacted to the fab five.

Seriously? The drug using was dissed by old fogies, but the Beatles were hardly leftwing icons.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/feb/02/lennon-lost-interview-radical-left

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Kung Fu Princess meets the realities of sexual dimorphism and inertial mass.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrY2QbppWg

contrast with her pre event personae….

http://2ps46p2qeea548gs4x33cbdz.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/antifa-girl–671×900.jpg

and another photo shows her during the exchange with a bottle in her hand…

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@Sentient

The stupid broad punched an ex-marine in the throat with a sap glove…SMH

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The bottle pic looks photoshopped.

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@scribblerg At its core, Critical Theory can be used by anyone. Rollo is a supreme Critical Theorist. The idea of deconstructing texts and examining the viewpoint, biases, and motivations of authors is viewpoint-neutral. Marx, Marcuse, and later Derrida, Habermas, and Foucault were men of their time and developed their ideas in a different world. That was the world of no rights for workers, limited popular education, Nazism, and outright racial discrimination and class exclusion. Their examination of law, economics and society was of its time. The world has changed. Some of what they wrote has expired. Their less-innovative disciples act… Read more »

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“Just went as bodies present to counter protest”…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ftMf35LTw&t=182s

oh my at 3:05 (post exchange) “The revolution isn’t fucking easy”…

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“The bottle pic looks photoshopped.”

Well she has a hat on in this pic and not in the punch clip. She is also falling over to her right in this clip and left in the punch clip. I’ll leave interpretation to the experts…

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Complementarity works on a personal level. But on a societal level it not only threatens hypergamy, as Rollo describes, but it also suggests that male leadership is justified more generally as well. For both of these reasons, complementarity will be seen as the “path back to patriarchy.” Red Pill really is a liberating message for men, because it is ultimately about being rewarded for being true to your masculine nature. But the sad reality is that marriage and fatherhood have been made to carry far more risk for men than they need to. A lot of that could be fixed… Read more »

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I thought the prison was only done with when you died.

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Another thing about the trope of equalism: It was largely foisted upon us by those who consider us anything but their equals. It’s yet another tool for mass control.

Also note the # of supposed equalist women who will accept financial assistance from men, pay your own damn bills. Actually nowadays it’s more like loafing around all day, posting pics and getting “tributes”.

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Hypergamy excused as equalism… man that’s clarity.

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Ok, the bottle looked a little off from where it would be held…she was off-balance…maybe she lost her grip on the bottle to try to catch herself. Definitely not the incident where she was punched in the forehead.

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“Kung Fu Princess meets the realities of sexual dimorphism and inertial mass.” http://i.imgur.com/uaQSQtP.gif Oh yes her main defense is she is 5’1″ and 95 lbs… she would have killed if she could… ?zoom=2 Bottle girl should actually have a desire to grow up and be successful. Will her song live on long after she does? She’s sure acting aimless toward that goal (of equalism and beyond). I’m sure her boyfriend is whistling this tune: Can I Graduate, Can I look into the faces that I meet, Can I get my punk-ass off the street, I’ve been living on for so… Read more »

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Marx, Marcuse, and later Derrida, Habermas, and Foucault were men of their time and developed their ideas in a different world. That was the world of no rights for workers, limited popular education, Nazism, and outright racial discrimination and class exclusion.

Utter horse shit. You are so ignorant of history it is pathetic. Are you one of those who claims slavery in the US didn’t end until 1965, too?

Kids today…

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Don’t you KNOW???? We’re trying to be decent men in an indecent time!!!!11111!!!

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Not sure what you’re getting at, Mr. Anonymous, I didn’t say the words you attribute to me. Slavery was legally abolished by the 13th Amendment in 1865. Various oppressive forms of sharecropping and employment persisted after that, but it wasn’t slavery. Voting, housing, commercial and employment rights for black people in the USA were very curtailed until about 1965. I am old enough to remember 1965 and the Woolworth lunch counter sit-ins, Selma march for voting rights, etc. But that’s not the subject. We were talking about Critical Theory: at its core, the examination of law, culture and institutions for… Read more »

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Deselby Not sure what you’re getting at, Mr. Anonymous, This: Marx, Marcuse, and later Derrida, Habermas, and Foucault were men of their time and developed their ideas in a different world. That was the world of no rights for workers, limited popular education, Nazism, and outright racial discrimination and class exclusion. It is horse shit. Nothing more. One could expend many electrons demonstrating that, but it would divert other men away from the real topic – blue pill conditioning and the Female Imperative. No doubt you’d rather discuss ever more esoteric re-re-revisions of Marxism, perhaps to some new Year Zero,… Read more »

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@Weminuche45

“Happy wife, happy life” is common among politically and culturally conservative churchgoing men. They don’t like it when someone asks them why they are feminists, either.

“Happy life, happy wife” is closer to the “mission comes first” truth. This can be demonstrated. It’s been demonstrated time after time after time. It can be tested, making this statement more scientific in some sense than all the blather that counselors shovel out.

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Just had a birthday 2 minutes ago. Was thinking about this story and how it relates to men in are culture from one versio of ourselfs into another. THE MONKEY’S PAW I. Without, the night was cold and wet, but in the small parlour of Laburnam Villa the blinds were drawn and the fire burned brightly. Father and son were at chess, the former, who possessed ideas about the game involving radical changes, putting his king into such sharp and unnecessary perils that it even provoked comment from the white-haired old lady knitting placidly by the fire. “Hark at the… Read more »

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Boxcar Complementarity works on a personal level. But on a societal level it not only threatens hypergamy, as Rollo describes, but it also suggests that male leadership is justified more generally as well. For both of these reasons, complementarity will be seen as the “path back to patriarchy.” It is the path back to patriarchy. In the churchgoing circles even the egalitarian-lite that gets labeled “complementarianism” (really 1980’s 2nd wave feminism) gets tarred as teh patriarchy! (clutch pearls, fan self, breath heavily) by the conservative feminists. Because sexual dimorphism means women can’t actually be infantry, no matter how rigged the… Read more »

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OK, you don’t have to reply Anonymous Reader. We obviously have different views of history.

My comment was directed at scribblerg

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Jordan Peterson is the real disappointment as he has the platform, following, intellect and respect to make an impact but is an avowed White night.

Even though his Jungian grounding is replete with ‘shadow’ archetypes, I’ve yet to see him use it in the context of normal women, he only applies it to a specific category of woman and even then in very abstract round about way.

I guess as a Jungian therapist it doesn’t pay to bite the hand that feeds you, can’t upset the clientele.

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An interesting thing about the equalism mantra is the supposition that male and female rejection of social norms and conventions should look the same.

Female rebellion entails social domination, economic independence from men, promiscuity, social preening, status signalling, excessive spending, prioritising social experiences, risk taking, demanding increased social investment etc.

Whereas male rebellion and rejection of social norms entails indifference, social withdrawal, de-prioritising sex, underperformance, laxity, thriftiness, prioritising solitary experiences, reduction of social engagement, risk aversion, reduced social investment etc.

It’s funny to observe the ‘what’s wrong with boys’ position as it’s presumed they’re not rebelling the right way, like girls.

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Sexual Dimorphism Anyone who denies the possibility of biological explanations for differences in behavior between the sexes is someone who deserves to be written-off completely. When I started injecting testosterone, I instantly became less anxious and neurotic. I had more obvious leadership abilities – public speaking became like second nature, rather than a scary thing to stumble through. It would be wrong to project the experiences of a man with low T onto women, but a lot of women’s weak points happen to coincide. Reading the essay again, I am struck by how men prioritize honest and objective descriptions of… Read more »

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True story here…I know a thoroughly blue pill guy who was in a crappy marriage to a lazy wife who wouldn’t fuck him. When he told a female co-worker about his marital woes, she gave him the crap “happy wife happy life” advice. So, even though his wife’s ‘gina was still clamped shut, he takes this advice and proceeds to have a brand new house built. He and the lazy wife got divorced anyway. Shocking. But surprisingly, he got to keep the new house (must’ve had one hell of a lawyer). Anyway, take a wild-assed guess as to who he… Read more »

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“They think there must be something more to it. They think in their preconditioned equalist mindset that women are wired for the same introspection and development that men are.” If you had to boil this post down to 2 sentences, that’s it. Women didn’t evolve to be wired for introspection and development because *these skills have never been required for their survival*. There simply is no accountability or repercussions for bad female behavior, no Darwinian feedback mechanism, no disincentive. There will always be someone there to enable and support them no matter what – there’s no “high price of failure”.… Read more »

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Stop taking them so seriously, how are you going to vet a Machiavellian liar that’s been learning game from the age of 12? Sentient posts video of nazi scalp girl @April 17, 2017 at 8:12 pm. It’s all there if you can bear to listen to much of it. The Female Interviewer (initials F.I.) provides sympathetic leading questions. Nazi scalp girl explains how she was looking around near the crowd, sucker punched, then punched by two more people, then grabbed around the neck by a guy who “kneed my forehead a bunch of times”, as others attempted to throw her… Read more »

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“They only differ in their reproductive organs.”

Not anymore.
A girl can have male reproductive organs and a boy female reproductive organs.
It’s all what they self identify as.

That girl’s male organs and guy’s female organs just haven’t transgendered as much as the rest of them.

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@Sensei

Women didn’t evolve to be wired for introspection and development because *these skills have never been required for their survival*. There simply is no accountability or repercussions for bad female behavior, no Darwinian feedback mechanism, no disincentive.

Yeah, because there’s no Patriarchalism today, Patriarchalism must never have existed. Today’s world is all there ever was. Base your evolutionary ideas on today’s world and ignore history–makes perfect sense.

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@TheLastCoyote: Gatdammmmmmnnnn!!! If I had a dime for every story I heard like this! 😧
“Happy wife, happy life”…what fuckery!

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@anon: They can’t be called reproductive though, can they? As they said in Ted 2, “There are guys with tits, but there are no chics with dicks”

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Women are capable of introspection and growth they just don’t have any reason to do it… Especially when they are young. The pendulum is just too far favoring them right now for there to be a huge motivation for it. There’s a built-in societal scapegoat for anything that could go wrong in a woman’s life and it’s just easier to be a victim than to actually take responsibility for what your life has become. They’ve gotten their equal rights but they fight equal responsibility. On the “love” front I’ve come to realize that we’re more alike than not. Our (men’s)… Read more »

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Reality has been changed by the workings of her mind. She believes her version of events unreservedly.

Lost Patrol – and so on the Plains of Ur, had Fashy Haircut carried her off to his tent at the end of the battle, this mechanism you describe would begin to serve her well… and his and her’s kids 9 months later…

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“@anon: They can’t be called reproductive though, can they? As they said in Ted 2, “There are guys with tits, but there are no chics with dicks”

oh, yes they can!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2560070/british-man-20-will-be-the-first-to-give-birth-to-a-baby-thanks-to-sperm-donor-he-found-on-facebook/

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And if you want to get your multicultural freak on, we have
“black woman” Rachel Dolezal. Soon to have her own line of sex doll with a washable weave.
(okay I made up that last bit)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3128908/Showing-tan-Rachel-Dolezal-poses-naked-provocative-photo-shoot-covered-gold-feather-headband-knee-length-braids.html

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” I’ve been able to experience true unconditional love a few times recently and it’s nothing like society’s definition of love. There’s no possessiveness or attachment involved. There’s no “I love this person more than that person” value attributions. It feels like a high actually. Like a constant non-fluctuating love/compassion.

Sounds exactly like when you buy a new puppy.

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@ Deselby and AR One of the reasons I don’t give 1 single shit about scribs Marxist diatribes and his professions of some kind of intellectual superiority of a kind, is precisely because I have a different view of history, particularly American history. The threat of Marxism or any other random assed ideology to my mind, is mostly theoretical exercise. I’ve traced my family history in America back to the 1750’s, and so my perspective based on a history that evades consumers of ” written theory and ideology “. Marxist didn’t enslave my great-great grandparents, nor did they relocate my… Read more »

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@Andy

Women are capable of introspection and growth they just don’t have any reason to do it… Especially when they are young.

Women can be trained to be introspective and to seek personal growth. Training can be done by father, mother, or male LTR partner.

Oh wait, I forgot…The Taming of the Shrew is so Blue Pill.

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@Blax Marxist didn’t enslave my great-great grandparents, nor did they relocate my native american ancestors and march a bunch of them out west. Just to throw a little soap in your eyes, some of your native American ancestors who were marched out west likely bought some other of your black ancestors as slaves. And white Americans didn’t enslave blacks in Africa…that was done by other African blacks and by the Portuguese…who typically carry the sickle cell gene. And some of your black ancestors may have helped massacre some of your native American ancestors. Ain’t history a bitch?! One of my… Read more »

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Boxcar It would be wrong to project the experiences of a man with low T onto women, but a lot of women’s weak points happen to coincide. Well, yes and no. If you pick any of the usual checklists for “men with low T”, a lot the behaviors listed fit fertile women at some point in their cycle. Moodiness, anxiety, and so forth. Elevating T, either via exogeneous means or exercise, tends to reduce or even eliminate those mental health issues. Unfortunately the official range of T is pretty wide, so a lot of men with T levels that are… Read more »

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OK ASD.😀

You’re actually making my point about perspective re history.

You’ve just used the standard minimizing trope that’s gained so much popularity recently.

But I will play along long enough to put the fact on deck that there’s a difference between endetured servitude and slavery as practiced here….and in Latin America…. And the Caribbean.

Also, Africans didn’t establlish , run, maintain or profit from the transatlantic slave trade.

You’re reading information that’s slanted/justifying. Lots of that around. I’ve read lots of it too, but the vast historical record tells a different tale. But hey, it’s not as interesting a read as prog Marxist.

No soap.

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“Women can be trained to be introspective and to seek personal growth. Training can be done by father, mother, or male LTR partner.” Lets be honest. Most men don’t seek personal growth and introspection either. Easier just to blame a woman/women in general/capitalism/marxism/society/whatever and be a victim. Or you can just rationalize that you’ll be happy in heaven for being a “good” person. Or you can pretend that your codependent marriage is “happiness”. More men make a sincere effort than women do I would say right now… I’m just guessing with that though, those Oprah/Eckhart Tolle/Tony Robbins/LOA things have tons… Read more »

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@Blax I was born in the Jim Crow south. Technically speaking, I was born without full citizen’s rights. That had to be fought for. The bulk of the people doing the fighting and heavy lifting were labelled Marxist and communist, most notably by J. Edgar Hoover. Threats to national security. This is a part of American history. Racial discrimination was certainly part of American history. I get it that it formed part of your history. It’s just not that relevant to whites. For whites, Marxists are currently destroying our culture, killing our jobs, settling terrorists in our communities, and denying… Read more »

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Hah! Exactly. She’ll be able to cite the last 10 things YOU did wrong instantly. Good luck getting a woman to do a full disclosure and thoughtful admission of one of HER mistakes, though.

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“Also, Africans didn’t establlish , run, maintain or profit from the transatlantic slave trade.”

Daymn, that’s a lot of qualifiers to fit the precise definition to fit your argument there, Blax.
Even down to “transatlantic”…so Barbary pirates don’t count!
Now that is some industrial strength cognitive dissonance.

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ASD

I already know you don’t give a shit. You’re happy in ignorance and misinformation on the subject. But you older than me so it’s par for a lot of your generation. No hate. Go read a few more volumes on prog Marxist. And keep reading the same shit forever.

I got no problem with you being staunchly proud of your ignorance.

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@Blax You’re reading information that’s slanted/justifying. Nope, not reading shit these days…just going off of memories of what I’ve read/heard. Of course, what you were taught in school is the pure, unadulterated truth. Also, Africans didn’t establlish , run, maintain or profit from the transatlantic slave trade. Oh, no doubt that the demand for slaves helped encourage the enslavement of blacks. Entire black tribes earned their living by enslaving other blacks and selling them to the Portuguese. Did J. Edgar fight against civil rights workers? Surely. Were many of those civil rights workers Marxists? Surely. Did some of those Marxists… Read more »

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Notice how past Marxist support for civil rights is leveraged by Marxists to gain black support for current Marxist policies.

@Blax

You can call me ignorant until you’re blue in the face…IDGAS lol…your cherry-picked history won’t stand up to scrutiny.

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It’s like I’m a red piller engaging a WK blue piller .

Lol.

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“I realised it when I started to interview them for jobs..”

Were men very forthcoming about their fuckups during the job interview?

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How I explain that equalism is a crock to my entourage

Is a cube equal to a pyramid?
Both serves a purpose defined by their own intrinsic shapes. Both are complementary and adds to another.
That being established, you wouldn’t put the pyramid under a cube would you?
Unless you want something non-functional that would require a lot of external forces to achieve this goal.

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@Blax

You’re a giant in your own mind.

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Last comment and I’ll spare readers this tired circular nonsense. The sphere is rife with apologist for racism and the historical record. Nothing can be done about that, so zfg. But it’s funny that men can get the idea of the FI, yet not grasp that those same mechanisms exist in other aspects of life. That’s why I always say that there is more that One red pill. But at least I won’t get banned or have my comments censored here at TRM like I’ve experienced at Roosh and CH, while only the single, angry bullshit was allowed to be… Read more »

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” Asad-ed-Din, the Lion of the Faith, Basha of Algiers, walked in the evening cool in the orchard of the Kasbah upon the heights above the city, and at his side, stepping daintily, came Fenzileh, his wife, the first lady of his hareem, whom eighteen years ago he had carried off in his mighty arms from that little whitewashed village above the Straits of Messina which his followers had raided. She had been a lissom maid of sixteen in those far-off days, the child of humble peasant-folk, and she had gone uncomplaining to the arms of her swarthy ravisher.” The… Read more »

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Notice how past Marxist support for women’s rights is leveraged by Marxists to gain women’s support for current Marxist policies.

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@kfg

Isn’t Messina in Africa? lol, you Blue Piller, you

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…. Don’t know anything about that quote either, huh? No Marxist. Lmao.

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If you’re looking for a time when a person is going to be most forthcoming about “mistakes”, the job interview probably isn’t the best example. This should be patently obvious. Sorry if I’ve stepped on your toes. Anyone who is prepared for an interview will know they are likely to be asked about mistakes, and they should have a prepared response. It’s not necessarily and honest response. And if they don’t, that’s not a symptom of having no self awareness (irrespective of whether they do or not) that’s just a symptom of being unprepared.

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“Name your biggest weakness”

“I’m good at remembering conversations”

“Thanks for playing!”

“Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk”

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@Andy

“More men make a sincere effort than women do I would say right now… I’m just guessing with that though, those Oprah/Eckhart Tolle/Tony Robbins/LOA things have tons of women followers.”

There’s a groupie for every pursuit…blah blah warcraft.

Or. How to spay your Dragon.

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Where is GOD addressed in the midst of these socio-sexual dynamics of the “red pill reality”? I wonder what Mr. Rollo Tommasi’s honest take on “human reality” if he actually considered *GOD* in the center of this whole world as should properly and rightfully be considered. If Mr. Tomassi and a lot of the guys here aren’t “Christian” then I don’t expect them to understand the “red pill” human reality from the actual “Reality” of the Word of God (King James Version Holy Bible [KJV]). Even so I still like coming here to “The Rational Male” ’cause I get to… Read more »

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“No Marxist.”

African muslims raiding Europe for slaves though. The novel even features a (somewhat ahistorical, the first Atlantic raid was actually on Ireland) slave raid on Cornwall. The setting is the late 1500s, before the British engaged in the Atlantic trade. History is a swirl of many currents.

It’s interesting that the Atlantic slave trade actually began as a humanitarian effort. Caribs died rather than be enslaved, so to save the Caribs the Spanish started importing slaves from Africa, where slavery was already well established and accepted as part of life.

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“King James Version Holy Bible . . .”

The Pilgrim Fathers refused to carry a KJV with them, insisting on carrying God’s Bible, not the King’s, which was a politically motivated and directed translation.

The KJV is un-American.

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@kfg

If the King James Version was good enough for Jesus and the apostles, it’s good enough for me.

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