Peak Hypergamy

Peak_Hypergamy

Commenter Divided Line came on with such a strong take on Our Sisters’ Keeper I had to riff on it:

Hypergamy is a given and it’s not going anywhere. But even if women’s sexuality is biologically rooted, their rationalizations for it aren’t possible without a compliant culture. So long as women are the damsels, the victims who are put upon by the cruel and all powerful patriarchy, so long as men are perceived to be powerful and free in a way that they clearly are not nor have ever been, open hypergamy is possible. After all, any guy who points it out or complains about it is branded an embittered loser, a misogynist, a creep, and so on, but I wonder to what degree this will change as red pill awareness spreads and penetrates the mainstream. I mean, how long do we think that men will go on smiling and nodding when it’s increasingly the case that more and more of us can see what bullshit all of this is?

What it makes me think of is Alana Massey’s Dickonomics article.

If you haven’t already read it, she goes on and on about how male attention is abundant and cheap, proving that women are well aware of what men who bother with online dating realized from the start. She recognizes the extreme degree of power this gives her before hamstering it away with this:

“Some will read my gleeful rejections on the many faces I encounter on Tinder as evidence of a disturbing uptick in malevolent, anti-male sentiments among single straight women. It is not. It is evidence of us arriving nearer to gender equilibrium where men can no longer happily judge the clear and abundant photos and carefully crafted profiles of women but become incensed when they take the opportunity to do the same.”

How many times have you seen this? All venality, cruelty, selfishness, indifference, etc is justified, of course, because men have it so good, women have it so bad, blah blah etc. So she can write something like this and the sisterhood will nod their heads and no doubt be able to ignore doubt or second thoughts in regards to their atrocious, destructive, and cruel treatment of the opposite sex. Women, like people who rationalize generally, tend to think in bogus bumper sticker one liners because they provide excuses not to think for themselves. And men, after all, just saunter about in the patriarchal torture dungeon of a society free and powerful, and pluck women from the trees before discarding them like jizz towels, so naturally, why should she consider their complexity as human beings or ever recognize what a rotten, horrible human being she is? They’re free to retaliate against men for women’s imaginary oppression.

But how long will they be able to keep employing these rationalizations and getting away with it if the public dialog changes? And it has already begun to change. I’ve watched it happen over the last year. You see more and more disclaimers in articles which appeal to the you-go-girl crowd. It really does seem as if there is a growing awareness that they are full of shit, or at the very least, that maybe there are moral complexities and obligations that come with female social power, to the degree that they are even willing to recognize that power.

Hypergamy isn’t going anywhere, but since men increasingly are comparing notes now and voicing their criticism of women’s bullshit (at least online), maybe it really isn’t the case that women are going to be able to continue this bullshit with public sanction. Is this wishful thinking?

I’ve made the case in several other blog comment and forum threads, but it’s getting almost too easy to point out women’s overt embrace of Open Hypergamy. There was a time – only 4 short years ago – that I would be run up the flagpole for publishing my observations on the ins and outs of women’s sexual strategy. Women in the blogosphere hated the fact that I was exposing their Game. They didn’t like the idea that I was informing men about the plan women had for them or the part they played, and by informing them it represented a fundamental threat to the long term success (and essentially their long term security) of that plan.

If you’re feeling nostalgic you can skim through the comments of posts like Wait For It? or The Threat:

Nothing is more threatening yet simultaneously attractive to a woman than a man who is aware of his own value to women.

[…]

Race to Awareness

Because of women’s relatively short window of peak sexual viability it is imperative that men be as unaware of their slower, but progressively increasing SMV for as long as possible in order for them to achieve the prime directive of female hypergamy; realize the best genetic options and the best provisioning options she has the capacity to attract in that peak window. If Men become aware of their SMV before a woman can consolidate on her options with monogamous commitment her sexual strategy is defeated.

The mistake (and the binary retort) is to think this need for contrivances was concocted in whole as some grand sisterhood conspiracy. This just proves an ignorance of social constructs. For a social contrivance to be such, it necessitates being repeated by society WITHOUT a formal conception – meaning we learn the contrivance from seeing it, internalizing it and repeating it ourselves without forethought. The best social contrivances are inconspicuous and rarely questioned because they’ve been learned without having been formally taught. This is why I think encouraging men NOT to bother trying to understand women is in itself a social convention. Don’t look at that man behind the curtain, just accept it for what it is, enjoy the show, you’re better off that way, the Mighty Oz has spoken.

This is the threat that Game represents to the feminine imperative. Widely shared, objective assessments of Men’s SMV and how it develops is the antithesis of the female sexual strategy. Women’s greatest fear is that they could become the ‘selected’ instead of the ‘selectors’.

Bear in mind I wrote this years before I published Preventive Medicine. This was also only a few years before I formally identified women’s embrace of openly, proudly, flaunting their sexual strategy. I can remember being soundly rebuked by women denying they adhered to anything so callous as an Alpha Fucks / Beta Bucks schedule with regard to men.

There was a certain nervous undertone that accompanied their shaming that revealed how protective they were of keeping the plan as ambiguous and secretive as possible from men in general. For every acknowledgement of the biological influences of Ovulatory Shift behaviors by these women there was always an obligatory, “yes, but, people are people, we’re above all that, it’s what’s on the inside that counts, NAWALT” intended to offset the ugliness of it.

Now, the same women who adamantly denied what their functionally opportunistic concept of love represents; the same women who rejected the idea of an Alpha Fucks / Beta Bucks sexual strategy openly and triumphantly boast about it. It’s become a source not only of agency, but a proud admission of perceived power on the part of women.

At some point the social impetus behind Open Hypergamy became so blatantly obvious they could no longer deny the truth of it. The Genie was out and it was more advantageous to not only to welcome it, but to brandish and profit from forcing men to accept it. Thus we have Open Hypergamy both subtly and triumphantly waved in our mainstream advertising, our pop-culture, our social media, our music and even the movies we take our kids to enjoy.

To see what is in front of one’s nose needs a constant struggle.
– George Orwell

I expect most of the worst aspects of Open Hypergamy (Overt Hypergamy if you prefer) are fairly obvious to my readers. Even the now the subtle influence in the media and advertising becomes not-so-subtle for men accustomed to seeing things with a Red Pill Lens. We can only shake our heads and hope that so blatant a confession of relishing power in Hypergamy on the part of unaware men will come to light for them.

Divided Line raises a very poignant observation – what’s next? What’s the natural progression?

Hypergamy isn’t going anywhere, but since men increasingly are comparing notes now and voicing their criticism of women’s bullshit (at least online), maybe it really isn’t the case that women are going to be able to continue this bullshit with public sanction. Is this wishful thinking?

I think there is a caveat we have to address here first. With Red Pill awareness it gets very easy to slide down the slippery slope and believe that ‘all women’ will have some equal capacity to enforce the worst of Open Hypergamy on men in general. Yes, in a westernizing context, women have an almost unilaterally state-backed influence on enforcing men’s de facto participation in Hypergamy by order of degree. However, it’s important to remember that men’s willing participation or coercion in it is still (as yet) limited by women’s capacity to attract and involve them.

Men want (and yes, need) sex and will find behavioral and psychological adaptations and workarounds to get it. That may be MGTOW, prostitution, porn or an as yet developed alternative of virtual sex. It may be Red Pill awareness and applied Game, it may be a self-aligning push to pander to the most extreme elements of the Alpha Fucks or Beta Bucks ends of Hypergamy, or it may be upping fame or a false social proof (via personality politicking on social media) that makes for men’s future adaptations.

Peak Hypergamy

I’m not a prognosticator about such things, but I can make logical estimates based on observations. One thing is for certain, and I discussed this with Niko in our talk, intersexual politicking and the condition of women will reach a ‘Peak Hypergamy’ state in the not too distant future. There will indeed come a point when even Blue Pill men will be unable to ignore so gross a power imbalance between the sexes.

There’s been some debate as to whether there’s some socially conscious ‘marriage strike’ in the manosphere for some time, and I think marriage statistics being at an all time low bear much of this out. I don’t think this is the result of some nascent MGTOW awakening, but rather a deductive, peripheral, general awareness men have of Open Hypergamy in our current social order at the moment.

Just as a last aside here, let me state that I am aware of the more militant, absolutists of MGTOW belaboring the idea that ‘the juice aint worth the squeeze’ and the dangers of even approaching a woman risk his being accused of sexual harassment, much less having recreational sex with her leaving a man open to post-sex regret-rape allegation. I get that. It’s part of the ascension toward a ‘Peak Hypergamy’ social state. My question is whether these men would find it worth their while to engage with women if their fears were removed in a post Peak State social order? Some may even live long enough to have to figure that out for themselves.

I think Divided Line is correct – there will come a state when Open Hypergamy’s power consolidation becomes too obvious and the social mechanics the Feminine Imperative has used to ensure that consolidation will be too much for women to maintain as a collective. Then what? What will women rationalize for themselves when they realize their monster has become too much?

I’ll reiterate it again; socially, it didn’t take long for women to transition from a secretive Hypergamy to an open display of it. The same women who called AF/BB the imaginings of misogynous men only 4 years ago are now proudly claiming it as truth (they knew all along) and a means to a power they’ve always had and should openly use.

The social, political and personal stress point of Peak Hypergamy is coming. It may take a bit longer, but there will come a point where even women will be forced to recognize the consequences of legislating their hubris.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Softek
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Softek

@ scribblerg It must be the apocalypse: I finally got laid tonight. I am no longer a virgin. Not that that means much, as in sex is still as much of a need as ever, and I’m not off the hook yet. I have to stay sharp now. But now I know that I can do it. Thought I was going to have premature ejaculation. Ended up being fine. The girl said I was great. We went at it for a long time. I did have a couple close moments of premature ejaculation, but I focused on kissing her and… Read more »

Softek
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@ scribblerg

Thanks for the advice too. I may have had one success now but spinning plates is the name of the game. I still have a LONG way to go before I can think of myself as an actual Alpha. A long, long way.

But we’re making progress.

Softek
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@ Rollo

Thanks, I’m still trying to process that this actually happened. I owe a lot to the guys here and of course all the writing you’ve done.

I know it’s not all said and done now but I’m going to go to bed for at least tonight with a mood of celebration. Thanks for everything so far, guys.

rugby11ljh
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rugby11ljh

@Softek
Holy hell
Nice thing to rest on. Congratulation not the apocalypse and you only are gonna get that much more amazing.

The Diplomat
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redlight
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redlight

sadly that leaves insanitybytes as the only virgin left here

(assuming cocksucking, anal, and artificial insemination doesn’t count)

keyser Soze
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keyser Soze

Happy birthday day Softek.

keyser Soze
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keyser Soze

an advice to Softek.
With fucking, comes responsibility, I want you to fuck the sluts, fuck the whores, fuck the cougars, fuck the virgins, fuck the single mom’s, fuck the Milfs, fuck the feminists, fuck anything with two holes. And when it comes to settling, start all over again and get a Dog.

Mean Mr. Mustard
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Mean Mr. Mustard

So, they just can’t help it.
Upon being caught out, they will cry out …the devil (hypergamy) made them do it.

lh
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lh

Wow, great, Softek! Well done. And now forget she was the first as soon as possible. No women should ever know how much you had already and best is you don’t know either.

Otsnarc
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Otsnarc

Being a man in this day and age is like walking across a tight-rope without a balance beam, no safety net and a cross wind with a massive drop below.

For women, there is a massive safety net and society has been conditioned to make their life easy. It needs to be addressed. To be honest it just annoys me.

Andy
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Andy

Earlier I had said something about there being a positive side of marriage. I do think there is a certain appeal to in a real good alpha frame. King of your Castle, Minions, etc. I’m getting pretty good at it. She tells me that she’s “the luckiest girl in the world.” I don’t know if she realizes that she only says it after sex… lol. Yesterday she bought me a pillow with her allowance money because: “I shouldn’t have a nicer pillow than the head of the household.” Anyway, I have set an ultimate goal of getting her to bring… Read more »

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SJF

Congratulations Softek. Your mindset as judged by your comments has certainly brightened up over the last couple weeks. A strong contrast to six months ago when we didn’t think you were going to make it through triage. (And I think a Grand Thank You! is due to ScribblerG for helping you off-line this past year.) Please keep to your red pill/game script. Do yourself a favor (and us readers for gods sake). Go back and read and follow Roissy’s Sixteen Commandments in regards to this plate you got up and spinning. And remember Law #4 of the 48 Laws of… Read more »

longgone
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longgone

Softek,

Outstanding!

Kid Jupiter
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Kid Jupiter

I’m just waiting for insanitybytes to come ridicule and shame Softek as an evil misogynist….

Other than that, congrats buddy.

Anonymous Reader
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Anonymous Reader

“Tomassi, but my imperative is actually happy, contented men

“Happy, contented” steers more likely. In the usual female solipsistic fashion, IB / gg / yttik wants men to be “happy” like women are supposed to be happy, because her feminist hindbrain refuses to accept that men are not defective women.

Now run along, girl, the men are talking.

Anonymous Reader
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Anonymous Reader

Softek – good, well done, don’t overthink and watch out for oneitis.

SJF
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SJF

“I’m just waiting for insanitybytes to come ridicule and shame Softek as an evil misogynist….”

I have a sixth sense that one of Insaneittybitty’s great joys in life is Schadenfreude.

Softek just gave her Gluckschmertz (…to take pain in someone else’s pleasure…) which he snatched from the jaws of her Schadenfreude.

theasdgamer
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Softek, work on your general approach to people. Be warm, fun, and engaging. With retail clerks, friends, men, women, dogs, etc. Make it part of your life. Options will happen.

The Burninator
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The Burninator

@Rollo Alpha is as Alpha does: http://www.newser.com/story/211659/this-woman-left-her-family-to-marry-man-on-death-row.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=earthlink&utm_campaign=rss_topnews I watched this in real life. Neighbor down the road, dude is Captain Fuckin’ America on steroids. Red white and blue all the way through, owns his own construction business, can fix anything and everything that is made of wood and metal, is in fantastic shape and women say out loud what a great looking guy he is, he had a *knockout* wife and had four kids by her. Even after the kids she stayed in amazing shape and you’d not know (with clothes on) that she’d ever birthed one child. Ok, good… Read more »

The Burninator
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The Burninator

Technically not shack up, I meant more along the lines of “live in an apartment and hope to get visitation with him”. As far as I understood it anyway.

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Softek
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@ Rollo I tried to capture how I did it in my comment. Will write more if I remember. She came over and made a comment that we were ‘just friends,’ but it was a shit test. She gave me a massage, and then I gave her one, and she said “A lot of guys expect to get laid after stuff like this, but this isn’t like that. I trust you, I don’t ever let anyone else do this.” I got very discouraged, and thought that was it, but deep down I knew it was a shit test. I knew… Read more »

Softek
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@ Rollo Revised Field Report: She mentioned later she couldn’t believe it happened. She said she always felt some kind of attraction to me and knew I was awesome, but she thought that when she came over it was just going to be kind of a stalemate. She wasn’t expecting it. Translation: she wanted to hook up with me, she was attracted to me, and she was in her hindbrain expecting/desiring me to Alpha up and make it happen. And that’s what I did, and that’s why it worked so well. Re-capped report: -Escalated with text beforehand when she wanted… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
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@Softek

Glad you got your first notch. Call it that. Stop using the words “virgin” and “virginity.” Women who haven’t ever had sex are “virgins.” Men who haven’t ever had sex are just that: men who haven’t ever had sex. They’re not “virgins.” The use of the word virgin interchangeably for men and women is yet another example of equalism and the feminization of men.

SJF
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SJF

“…I actually asked her if she saw my hard on.” “…..I asked her if she had a good time.” Softek, please realize what you are doing. Please fake it till you make it. Act like you have done this tens of times. Going forward, it makes no difference to her whether you haven’t had PIV sex in the past. Don’t ask those juvenile questions. You are better than that. Please use Law #4. And Rollo is being taciturn here: “I think if you pick the behaviors and physical cues apart you’ll find she was likely in her proliferative phase too.… Read more »

Softek
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@ SJF

I don’t know what you’re referring to. I’ve read the menstruation article Rollo wrote but I’m having a hard time processing all of this. If you want to give me some advice, I’m all ears.

SJF
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Keep in mind that is she is on the pill, it blunts her ovulatory craving for dick so you need to calibrate. 5 to 7 days after the start of her period until 14 days and beyond she is going to be more down to fuck. After that she needs more nurturing (in an LTR moreso, much, much less so for your current circumstance). Frankly if I were you I would disappear during her luteal phase this month and pop back up in her proliferative phase. In short if you can decipher the peak of her proliferative phase you are… Read more »

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I didn’t know HOW to respond, and I didn’t see a point, because I was interested in her, so I just ignored it/kind of went along with it, Naturals do this, too. Kind of like you hear a broad saying, “Blah, blah, blah.” Nothing that is in line with your agenda so it gets ignored. If she gets boring (i.e., says “no” emphatically too often), you move on. Drop her and find something else to do. With this broad you probably started as uncertain beta and hit enough alpha pings to get her to reassess your SMV. Doubt was your… Read more »

ChocDoc
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@ Softek:

CONGRATS!!!

But i don’t want you to get oneitis now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

😉

theasdgamer
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Had a rough Saturday and Sunday. Mrs. Gamer was doing Dread-B behavior. That’s Cluster-B because of Dread. She doesn’t want to go out with me when I’m working on my book because she doesn’t want to see me dancing with other women. So she stays home, then whines about how she always has to stay home. Mrs. Gamer has some decent girlfriends with whom she can do things, so she just needs to schedule going out to do stuff with them on the weekends. So, the problem is her high blood pressure. And her Dread-B behavior. How did I deal… Read more »

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“I trust you, I don’t ever let anyone else do this.”

Softek, when a woman says that she does trust you at that moment, and she’s done whatever it is before more than once. Her anti-slut defense is dialing back while her hamster revs up, and yes, it’s a signal for you to escalate.

keyser Soze
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keyser Soze

Softek.
I advise you to move on, if I were you I’d find a reason to dump her.
She opened the door for you and she knows you owe her, that is why you should move on .
You will never be her Alpha.
Just move on as soon as possible.
Find another woman and don’t let her know she is your second fuck.

theasdgamer
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The best case: She initiates during her fertile period if you don’t. She gets cravings for your D.

Got one better than this. Mrs. Gamer is post-menopausal and initiates several times a month. No testosterone boost in her system. Must be the 18 inch…oh, wait, I had my hamstermagnifier on, never mind.

theasdgamer
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Consider what I have written to be a Master Class in Dread/Relationship Game.

Andy
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Andy

I asked her if she had a good time. I feel like a douche, but I have to say it. I would make this the first and last time you ask that question. Chicks hate it when you fish for validation. I wouldn’t worry about it though, I did it for like 10 years… lol. I started to notice that even when you try to get validation with a cocky/funny attack they can still sniff out the insecurity. Even if they don’t say anything just assume it’s awesome. Because honestly, she’s hooking up with a red pill guy that “get’s… Read more »

theasdgamer
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I ask Mrs. Gamer about the quality and quantity of her O’s. She doesn’t like it either. I do it just to bug her.

If a broad bangs you, that’s enough validation.

ChocDoc
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ChocDoc

A man never should look for validation…especially not from a woman.

She should look for your validation. That’s the natural way!!

kfg
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kfg

Indeed. Let me rephrase the question to make it more obvious: “Was I a good boy?”

Do you now see how that is inherently the supplication of an inferior? Women will react to that as a man does to “Do these pants make my ass look fat?” It totally kills whatever good feels there actually were up to that point.

And it’s an entirely needless question, nor should you pay any attention to her if she says something about it of her own volition. It’s just noise, it doesn’t mean anything. If she enjoyed herself she will show you with her behaviour.

Forge the Sky
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Forge the Sky

Softek,

Well done dude! Damn, I just got a fucking kiss this weekend lol. Bad logistics.

Was gonna talk to ya a bit about your logistic/socialization stuff, but Glenn hit it good already and you’ve got shit to process now.

Brofist

Forge the Sky
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@Rugby: “Still making a hell of a lot of progress than was thinking about @Forge the sky said awhile ago. About slipping back into a blue pill mindset or even routine. It’s a hell of day out here grateful to be here.” Old habits die hard. But they do die. And your killer’s knife gets keener with use. Let no tyrants live in your own head. Root the fuckers out. On that note, I’d like to thank everyone for your advice a few weeks back, to not get involved with the old one-itis chasing the manager. I disengaged entirely. Talk… Read more »

MikePhil
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Softek – Good for you! I think we can all collectively go “WHEW” knowing you finally made it to the other side. Glad you made it. And know that this site is visited by men who will have nothing but advice, suggestions and their hard-won experience with women to share with you. I suggest you listen to ALL of it (and I mean ALL of it) and know that’s delivered to you with a lot of compassion and brotherly concern. Experience is the most valuable thing in the world, especially regarding women; if it’s given to you for free, BANK… Read more »

teddj4g
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teddj4g

Softek – Virtual fist bump!

and yeah, lay off any of that “how was it?” stuff. I get it. I spent most of my life far too concerned with how it was for her, and barely any time making it more fun for me. Sad part is? Making it more fun for me makes it more fun for her by default. I was fighting a win-win situation! (I’ve always exceeded at being my own worst enemy.)

Gratz on the score. Now do it again. 😉

fartofseduction
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@Softek, Read about your success this morning, well fucking done. You are getting a lot of advice so I won’t bother going too deep. Avoid oneitis, use basic text/phone game for setting up more one on one time, find more plates. Never tell a girl the details of your sexual history. I understand your inclination, but game is game, never do this again. She might want to stick around for more sex, or even some kind of relationship, maybe she won’t. Depends, you did not give many details about her and how you ended up at your place. My first… Read more »

rugby11ljh
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rugby11ljh

@Andy
Validation equates me to the blue pill. I learned from my own demons that it’s counter intuitive.

@Forge the sky
High five from the east the sky’s raining out here good day for a run.

Been journaling gets me away from those familiar demons. Those lips I still remember her lips…

@Mikephil
“I don’t know you, and don’t know where you are in the world, but I’ll have a pint in your honor tonight for a job well done.”
Here here!!

Lucien
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Lucien

@ keyserSoze “And when it comes to settling, start all over again and get a Dog.” Over time, nothing is sexier. “Time and time again women have performed crazy stunts to get my attention and as soon as they feel that if they wanted me, they could get me, they cut me off” Yeah, I dealt with a lot of that sh*t man. All they want is attention and validation. They don’t need sex like we do. I just wanna be like, b*tch, this isn’t a f*cking game to me! Haha. And then I think about how, if we were… Read more »

Softek
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Softek

Can I have some clarification on why you never discuss your sexual history with women? I’m not arguing against it, I just want clarification on why exactly this is such a bad idea. I’ve done that a lot in the past and I’m wondering how and why it could’ve fucked up my chances so much and/or completely ruined something. As for the rest, I have a lot to process. But I love this. The support and the critique. It reminds me of my mentor. The harshest of criticism is nothing compared to what it can protect you from. I’d rather… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
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Kid Jupiter

Softek, that’s the beauty of this community of men. It’s a male space and it’s supportive. Together, we figure this shit out and the FI-imposed scales fall from our eyes. We win as a team, albeit a loosely connected, electronically connected one. If you win, I and everyone else wins, too. Enlightened self-interest. It works.

Forge the Sky
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Forge the Sky

“Can I have some clarification on why you never discuss your sexual history with women?”

1) the fantasy is typically better than the reality. Especially for incels. Her imagination is the biggest tool in your toolbox.
2) she doesn’t want some dude blabbing her sexual exploits all around. So be discreet.

Forge the Sky
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Forge the Sky

Oh, also:

3) sex isn’t some huge deal to you. It just happens sometimes, crazy huh? Like magic.

Blaximus
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Blaximus

Also, I’ve learned that ” sharing ” too much of what you think, what you feel, and how you see things is in general, a bad move. Let women discuss things with each other. They like that. But once you get in the habit of sharing too much with a woman you’re in an LTR or just banging, they start to see you differently. Eventually your overt communication will lead to your ultimate downfall and failure. There are always exceptions to this line of thought, but you can’t tell right away. Believe it or not, men understand feelings , male… Read more »

Blaximus
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Blaximus

If you want her to know something, show her. Demonstrate..etc. etc. etc.

Luxocrat
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Luxocrat

Check out the twisted hypergamy here in NY (on Long Island, a hot bed of older, lonely housewives)

51 year-old teacher w/vice-chairmanship sexually harrasses male staffers, calls them FILFs –

http://nypost.com/2015/08/24/male-staff-claim-sex-obsessed-teacher-sexually-harasses-them/

Kid Jupiter
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Kid Jupiter

@Luxocrat

I get that shit a lot from cougars lately. Trying to qualify themselves to a younger man. Recently, one asked me, “I don’t look bad for 55. You would do me, right?” I replied, “Nope. Time to retire, grandma.” She didn’t like that.

kfg
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kfg

“51 year-old teacher . . .”

. . . who doesn’t look a day over 70.

fartofseduction
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@Softek There is a time and place for discussing sexual history, but it’s never when you are getting with a girl in the beginning, especially since you have such limited experience. Women want a man to lead and leaders have experience. Although I can see the exception of a women enjoying the novelty of being your teacher, but novelty wears off fast. I have given specifics to girls that I was already involved with. Like what I enjoyed in the past, what other girls were willing to do to please me. Also, telling a girl about another girl I had… Read more »

Ang
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Ang

Looking at cdc birth data. It shows that the avg age of first time moms is 26. In 1970 the avg age for a first mom was 21. If you do a projection in 2045 is when avg age of a first time mom will be 30. I would predict that is the year of peak hypergamy in U.S.

I also think we will see what peak hypergamy looks like in the EU around the 2030s.

SGT Ted
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SGT Ted

Rock on, Softek.

SGT Ted
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SGT Ted

She was REALLY into it, I have bite marks on my chest, we banged in three different positions, she sucked my dick like a fucking porn star …

So. you didn’t really have to ask her if she liked it, right?

SGT Ted
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SGT Ted

“51 year-old teacher . . .”

I’ve seen some fairly hot 50+ women. That hag isn’t one of them.

Sun Wukong
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Sun Wukong

@Softek

The reason you never talk about your sexual past to a woman is the same reason you never talk to the cops: because it will never help you and can only hurt you.

And on the getting laid note…

Jack-Jack
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Jack-Jack

@softek

Nicely done!

rugby11ljh
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rugby11ljh

@Forge the sky “she doesn’t want some dude blabbing her sexual exploits all around. So be discreet.” Yeah I was beta when I got laid once and though this was ok. It’s not and never will be. It’s what shouted me over to the red pill. @Blaximus “Believe it or not, men understand feelings , male feelings, much better than women ever could.” I know your right. It’s just a matter of others learning from experience. @Ang That’s a hell of an interesting connection to what I see women do in the “real world.” It remind me of the right… Read more »

kobayashii1681
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@Lucien: “@ keyserSoze

“And when it comes to settling, start all over again and get a Dog.”

Over time, nothing is sexier.”

Well played son, well played!

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kobayashii1681
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@Softek:
““Can I have some clarification on why you never discuss your sexual history with women?”

Dito sensei’s Iron Rule post about your N-count…Women do not want full disclosure…the truth is what you make it, whatever increases your value, keeps the power shift & frame in your favour, yes…..that. Amused mastery and so on.

What the truth actually is, is irrelevant!

theasdgamer
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Rollo, did you ever tell Mrs. Tomassi your N-count?

theasdgamer
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Softek, you should change your handle to “Zombie Apocalypse”.

hoellenhund2
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I have to COMPLETELY OVERCOME all my handicaps to the point where I am BETTER than 80% of men at least. Have to have my shit together better than the vast majority of men. I’m having a hard enough time just getting to be AVERAGE, but what I need to do in order to have any kind of sex life and get ANY of my sexual needs met AT ALL is be better than the vast majority of guys out there. So, in other words, you’ll end up killing yourself anyway, but you’ll do it the slow way, by making… Read more »

hoellenhund2
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She goes “You don’t understand how hard it is to be a woman and deal with this shit.”

Meh. That’s standard female bullshit. It’s really comical. The average woman has always been completely convinced that she has it so hard while men have it so easy.

hoellenhund2
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I look at Japan as an example. The herbivore men. They didn’t need a manosphere, a manifesto, a red pill, or anything else. This is no ‘movement’….no books or blogs to read. Men looked at the scenario laid out before them….a lifetime of thankless, soul crushing servitude to an ungrateful shrew, and said ‘no thanks’. Probably, even more men who would still like to be a plow horse, can’t because they don’t qualify…they don’t make enough money to be a plow horse. Being a herbivore man is a no-brainer. The choice was no choice at all. I agree. Japan is… Read more »

rugby11ljh
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rugby11ljh

@Rollo
“Once again, demonstrate (or have your point demonstrated for you with social proof) your perspective, never explicate it.”

Makes me think of mastering the Burden of performance

kfg
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kfg

“There’s no racial tension in Japan . . .”

Tell it to the Koreans, Filipinos and Ainu. It would be more correct to say that the racial tensions are not palpable to the average Yamato.

” . . . and no palpable threats to national security whatsoever . . .”

Tell it to the Chinese.

Luxocrat
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Luxocrat

@hoellenhund2

There are plenty of racial issues in Japan: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/05/13/japans-half-black-miss-universe-says-discrimination-gives-her-extra-motivation/

And as someone else noted herein, just ask the Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc., too. It’s like the adage that if something is not affecting a person, they don’t see it. That being said I do see your great point made

Sergio
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Sergio

Rollo
Reading you has been a huge change in my life.
I have a question for you. Your blog is great and forgive me is this has been answered before, but the site is really big.
What’s your take on raising a little daughter in this times?
PS: I’m Mexican, please forgive my bad english

Luxocrat
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Luxocrat

This quote by Mary Pipher popped up on my dash on a social media site:

“Young men need to be socialized in such a way that rape is as unthinkable to them as cannibalism” – Mary Pipher.

One woman’s response to this, when I went to look up the author of the quote, was:

“This quote sums up what our society needs to make it a safe one for women.”

Really? Reengineer the thought processes of boys?

hoellenhund2
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Ethnic minorities in Japan are negligible in number and influence. And the ethnic differences between Koreans and Japanese aren’t even that significant. When a culture is sufficiently diverse ethnically, like the USA, it puts more social pressure on average men to act as masculine protectors, because there’s a perception of ethnic threats. That’s not the case in Japan. That’s my point. Herbivore men are more tolerated. Whether racism is prevalent in Japan or not is completely beside the point.

Mike
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Mike

Roll

Men of our age get it. I think we’re both about 47.

We need to look at how to protect our sons. Mine is 12.

Could we start to look at this?

I would be grateful, as I’m sure many others would.

Water Cannon Boy
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Water Cannon Boy

I remember talking about expecting a coming increase in young female celebrities saying that they were bisexual, as a means to maximizing attention from pop culture pushing gender issues so hard, from the girl power crew as a way of saying that it’s either empowering or that their sexuality can’t be contained just by a man; women’s sexuality being so much more complex and all. And also as a way of getting attention from guys the same way girls kissing in the bar to garner cheers from the crowd. A power ploy to frustrate men, make themselves seem unobtainable when… Read more »

MikePhil
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MikePhil

@ Water Cannon –

Good point. Using the term “identify” allows for sexual malleability without any real consequences. Anne Heche identified as a lesbian when it was advantageous to do so, and reverted to being straight when it also suited her. It allows an easy out when circumstances or better prospects present themselves.

I’m guessing Johhny Depp is going to find out for himself the hard way, one day.

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Water Cannon Boy
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Water Cannon Boy

@MikePhil
I also expect that as any of these girls; celebrity or non celebrity, because i also said I expect to see it more and more with regular people; that these girls who are so equally attracted to either gender and down for whatever will all look to have relationships with just men as they get older and the looks fade. The novelty will be gone from being two nubile girls making out and showing affection to each other.

Water Cannon Boy
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Water Cannon Boy

Forgot to ask, Rollo, where’d you get the title picture from?

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Marquerite
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Hey, do you guys ever stop to consider the idea that, if you’re using the title “Social Justice Warrior” as an insult, you might be the bad guys?

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rugby11ljh

@Marquerite
Your bringing some interesting points that I would find fascinating to speak about in person. Especially guilt vs progress and term use i can still at times get confused about.

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