Peak Hypergamy

Peak_Hypergamy

Commenter Divided Line came on with such a strong take on Our Sisters’ Keeper I had to riff on it:

Hypergamy is a given and it’s not going anywhere. But even if women’s sexuality is biologically rooted, their rationalizations for it aren’t possible without a compliant culture. So long as women are the damsels, the victims who are put upon by the cruel and all powerful patriarchy, so long as men are perceived to be powerful and free in a way that they clearly are not nor have ever been, open hypergamy is possible. After all, any guy who points it out or complains about it is branded an embittered loser, a misogynist, a creep, and so on, but I wonder to what degree this will change as red pill awareness spreads and penetrates the mainstream. I mean, how long do we think that men will go on smiling and nodding when it’s increasingly the case that more and more of us can see what bullshit all of this is?

What it makes me think of is Alana Massey’s Dickonomics article.

If you haven’t already read it, she goes on and on about how male attention is abundant and cheap, proving that women are well aware of what men who bother with online dating realized from the start. She recognizes the extreme degree of power this gives her before hamstering it away with this:

“Some will read my gleeful rejections on the many faces I encounter on Tinder as evidence of a disturbing uptick in malevolent, anti-male sentiments among single straight women. It is not. It is evidence of us arriving nearer to gender equilibrium where men can no longer happily judge the clear and abundant photos and carefully crafted profiles of women but become incensed when they take the opportunity to do the same.”

How many times have you seen this? All venality, cruelty, selfishness, indifference, etc is justified, of course, because men have it so good, women have it so bad, blah blah etc. So she can write something like this and the sisterhood will nod their heads and no doubt be able to ignore doubt or second thoughts in regards to their atrocious, destructive, and cruel treatment of the opposite sex. Women, like people who rationalize generally, tend to think in bogus bumper sticker one liners because they provide excuses not to think for themselves. And men, after all, just saunter about in the patriarchal torture dungeon of a society free and powerful, and pluck women from the trees before discarding them like jizz towels, so naturally, why should she consider their complexity as human beings or ever recognize what a rotten, horrible human being she is? They’re free to retaliate against men for women’s imaginary oppression.

But how long will they be able to keep employing these rationalizations and getting away with it if the public dialog changes? And it has already begun to change. I’ve watched it happen over the last year. You see more and more disclaimers in articles which appeal to the you-go-girl crowd. It really does seem as if there is a growing awareness that they are full of shit, or at the very least, that maybe there are moral complexities and obligations that come with female social power, to the degree that they are even willing to recognize that power.

Hypergamy isn’t going anywhere, but since men increasingly are comparing notes now and voicing their criticism of women’s bullshit (at least online), maybe it really isn’t the case that women are going to be able to continue this bullshit with public sanction. Is this wishful thinking?

I’ve made the case in several other blog comment and forum threads, but it’s getting almost too easy to point out women’s overt embrace of Open Hypergamy. There was a time – only 4 short years ago – that I would be run up the flagpole for publishing my observations on the ins and outs of women’s sexual strategy. Women in the blogosphere hated the fact that I was exposing their Game. They didn’t like the idea that I was informing men about the plan women had for them or the part they played, and by informing them it represented a fundamental threat to the long term success (and essentially their long term security) of that plan.

If you’re feeling nostalgic you can skim through the comments of posts like Wait For It? or The Threat:

Nothing is more threatening yet simultaneously attractive to a woman than a man who is aware of his own value to women.

[…]

Race to Awareness

Because of women’s relatively short window of peak sexual viability it is imperative that men be as unaware of their slower, but progressively increasing SMV for as long as possible in order for them to achieve the prime directive of female hypergamy; realize the best genetic options and the best provisioning options she has the capacity to attract in that peak window. If Men become aware of their SMV before a woman can consolidate on her options with monogamous commitment her sexual strategy is defeated.

The mistake (and the binary retort) is to think this need for contrivances was concocted in whole as some grand sisterhood conspiracy. This just proves an ignorance of social constructs. For a social contrivance to be such, it necessitates being repeated by society WITHOUT a formal conception – meaning we learn the contrivance from seeing it, internalizing it and repeating it ourselves without forethought. The best social contrivances are inconspicuous and rarely questioned because they’ve been learned without having been formally taught. This is why I think encouraging men NOT to bother trying to understand women is in itself a social convention. Don’t look at that man behind the curtain, just accept it for what it is, enjoy the show, you’re better off that way, the Mighty Oz has spoken.

This is the threat that Game represents to the feminine imperative. Widely shared, objective assessments of Men’s SMV and how it develops is the antithesis of the female sexual strategy. Women’s greatest fear is that they could become the ‘selected’ instead of the ‘selectors’.

Bear in mind I wrote this years before I published Preventive Medicine. This was also only a few years before I formally identified women’s embrace of openly, proudly, flaunting their sexual strategy. I can remember being soundly rebuked by women denying they adhered to anything so callous as an Alpha Fucks / Beta Bucks schedule with regard to men.

There was a certain nervous undertone that accompanied their shaming that revealed how protective they were of keeping the plan as ambiguous and secretive as possible from men in general. For every acknowledgement of the biological influences of Ovulatory Shift behaviors by these women there was always an obligatory, “yes, but, people are people, we’re above all that, it’s what’s on the inside that counts, NAWALT” intended to offset the ugliness of it.

Now, the same women who adamantly denied what their functionally opportunistic concept of love represents; the same women who rejected the idea of an Alpha Fucks / Beta Bucks sexual strategy openly and triumphantly boast about it. It’s become a source not only of agency, but a proud admission of perceived power on the part of women.

At some point the social impetus behind Open Hypergamy became so blatantly obvious they could no longer deny the truth of it. The Genie was out and it was more advantageous to not only to welcome it, but to brandish and profit from forcing men to accept it. Thus we have Open Hypergamy both subtly and triumphantly waved in our mainstream advertising, our pop-culture, our social media, our music and even the movies we take our kids to enjoy.

To see what is in front of one’s nose needs a constant struggle.
– George Orwell

I expect most of the worst aspects of Open Hypergamy (Overt Hypergamy if you prefer) are fairly obvious to my readers. Even the now the subtle influence in the media and advertising becomes not-so-subtle for men accustomed to seeing things with a Red Pill Lens. We can only shake our heads and hope that so blatant a confession of relishing power in Hypergamy on the part of unaware men will come to light for them.

Divided Line raises a very poignant observation – what’s next? What’s the natural progression?

Hypergamy isn’t going anywhere, but since men increasingly are comparing notes now and voicing their criticism of women’s bullshit (at least online), maybe it really isn’t the case that women are going to be able to continue this bullshit with public sanction. Is this wishful thinking?

I think there is a caveat we have to address here first. With Red Pill awareness it gets very easy to slide down the slippery slope and believe that ‘all women’ will have some equal capacity to enforce the worst of Open Hypergamy on men in general. Yes, in a westernizing context, women have an almost unilaterally state-backed influence on enforcing men’s de facto participation in Hypergamy by order of degree. However, it’s important to remember that men’s willing participation or coercion in it is still (as yet) limited by women’s capacity to attract and involve them.

Men want (and yes, need) sex and will find behavioral and psychological adaptations and workarounds to get it. That may be MGTOW, prostitution, porn or an as yet developed alternative of virtual sex. It may be Red Pill awareness and applied Game, it may be a self-aligning push to pander to the most extreme elements of the Alpha Fucks or Beta Bucks ends of Hypergamy, or it may be upping fame or a false social proof (via personality politicking on social media) that makes for men’s future adaptations.

Peak Hypergamy

I’m not a prognosticator about such things, but I can make logical estimates based on observations. One thing is for certain, and I discussed this with Niko in our talk, intersexual politicking and the condition of women will reach a ‘Peak Hypergamy’ state in the not too distant future. There will indeed come a point when even Blue Pill men will be unable to ignore so gross a power imbalance between the sexes.

There’s been some debate as to whether there’s some socially conscious ‘marriage strike’ in the manosphere for some time, and I think marriage statistics being at an all time low bear much of this out. I don’t think this is the result of some nascent MGTOW awakening, but rather a deductive, peripheral, general awareness men have of Open Hypergamy in our current social order at the moment.

Just as a last aside here, let me state that I am aware of the more militant, absolutists of MGTOW belaboring the idea that ‘the juice aint worth the squeeze’ and the dangers of even approaching a woman risk his being accused of sexual harassment, much less having recreational sex with her leaving a man open to post-sex regret-rape allegation. I get that. It’s part of the ascension toward a ‘Peak Hypergamy’ social state. My question is whether these men would find it worth their while to engage with women if their fears were removed in a post Peak State social order? Some may even live long enough to have to figure that out for themselves.

I think Divided Line is correct – there will come a state when Open Hypergamy’s power consolidation becomes too obvious and the social mechanics the Feminine Imperative has used to ensure that consolidation will be too much for women to maintain as a collective. Then what? What will women rationalize for themselves when they realize their monster has become too much?

I’ll reiterate it again; socially, it didn’t take long for women to transition from a secretive Hypergamy to an open display of it. The same women who called AF/BB the imaginings of misogynous men only 4 years ago are now proudly claiming it as truth (they knew all along) and a means to a power they’ve always had and should openly use.

The social, political and personal stress point of Peak Hypergamy is coming. It may take a bit longer, but there will come a point where even women will be forced to recognize the consequences of legislating their hubris.

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Vitriol
Vitriol
6 years ago

@Rollo “You can make all the appeals to morality you’d like, but just know that our very learned, very conditioned understanding of morality is based on a societal imperative that prioritizes women above all else. Our gynocentric social context is one that promotes men compromising their own imperatives. So it will force them to abandon it.” Taking this line of thought and applying it to the idea that “men need sex” from above, it’s clear that our society as a whole is extremely dysfunctional in this regard. It’s no secret to the manosphere that pretty much all of the spree… Read more »

kobayashii1681
6 years ago

@rugby11ljh – Thanks bruv….Much appreciated!

M Simon
6 years ago

Andy
August 20th, 2015 at 9:15 am

I propose a pussy tax. For every 10 f**ks a woman gives out she has to give one f**k to a man (or woman) entitled to pussy welfare. And of course women will need to be watched at all times to make sure they don’t avoid the tax.

Socialism for pussy. What could possibly go wrong?

teddj4g
teddj4g
6 years ago

Sure morality is based a great deal on “common sense” (which isn’t so common) which creates a framework of views to form a cohesive society. Right now there’s no doubt we live in a femcentric society, but that doesn’t mean men should give up on noble traits and values. Again I’m not concerned with the morality of the affair as it pertains to the wife, but how it pertains to that mans ability to be honest, noble, and trustworthy. I suppose I could say “he just fucked over is harpy wife” but how a person treats those he cares little… Read more »

teddj4g
teddj4g
6 years ago

Ugh there was NO “til death” in there anywhere,

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

I think it was Roissy who wrote that the only way to stop r-selected men would be with a gatling gun, or something to that effect. These days, violence is frowned upon and there’s a huge price to pay for engaging in it – even in self-defense in some jurisdictions. In times past, a lot of these r-selected cad-type guys wouldn’t have had too long of a career, since they’d have the shit kicked out of them by the K-selected majority – if not be terminated with extreme prejudice. This could be done with society’s sanction at most, or society’s… Read more »

teddj4g
teddj4g
6 years ago

Kid Jupiter – I’m 45 and have very similar views. I still treat people as I would like to be treated, but I gave up on turning the other cheek. And that can be a great filter. If I’m treating a woman with common respect and she sees weakness? That’s not a woman I’d care to associate with. To me not even good as a plate, but I’m a picky eater. And I don’t do buffets.

M Simon
6 years ago

Softek August 20th, 2015 at 9:47 am Well you can work your way up. No need to get out of your comfort zone too far. Gradually train yourself. If she is a 5 go after 6s. The 6s will think they have a competitive advantage. And they do. Until you start working 7s. etc. And you could shorten the cycle by going from 5s to 7s. etc. ======= I have always been a fan of Cs and Ds. Bowling balls didn’t interest me. Too often. But I’d even do the occasional A if she threw herself at me hard enough.… Read more »

kobayashii1681
6 years ago

@Oblivion: “When she tried to have the equal partnership talk with me, I told that we could be equals just as long as I was a little more equal.”

Hehe…Nice!

M Simon
6 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory

Kid Jupiter
August 21st, 2015 at 12:55 pm

Women were always like that. They just don’t feel the need in the current milieu to cover their tracks.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@teddj4g:

Shame is something the honorable man owes himself for his own misdeeds.

Honor is something a man owes the the honorable. To the dishonorable he owes justice. Under a Catholic paradigm he may even owe righteousness.

@Lucien: ” . . . the same “pull yourself up by your own bootstraps” capitalist mythology that has made the lower classes in the country complicit in their own ass-raping.”

The socialist myth that there is no man made the lower classes complicit in their own ass-raping to death by the 100 million within living memory.

teddj4g
teddj4g
6 years ago

M Simon – “Women were always like that. They just don’t feel the need in the current milieu to cover their tracks.”

No doubt! I beleive the vast majority of humanity sucks, but I have the class to keep it to myself in public. I would not accept a woman into my life that can’t meet a minimum of social behavior. If I can behave so can she.

Besides, its good to hold women to high expectations. You’re gonna be disappointed a lot, but it cuts through the riff raff quickly.

M Simon
6 years ago

Anonymous August 20th, 2015 at 2:58 pm My guess is that in the near future, women in general will become more fractured and divided amongst themselves, more cynical of female activists and commentators who try to guide them and more lost. Younger pre wall women in their 20s will become more competitive against post wall women in their 30s. Some women will go all out to enter the harems of Alphas and give up on BBs altogether. Others will pursue BBs and avoid the AF strategy. Some women will find the reality too stressful and will drop out altogether, seeking… Read more »

teddj4g
teddj4g
6 years ago

KFG – Superbly put. The problem as I see it is there aren’t many honorable men left. And our justice system is a joke. Its a struggle between individual freedom and social responsibility. Right now its all about ME the individual, which is why we are collectively failing. For any large scale society to survive, they have to work towards a common goal. Today the only common goal we share is “what’s in it for me?” To work together, we would all have to collectively give up some individuality for the common good. Not a whole lot of giving going… Read more »

M Simon
6 years ago

teddj4g
August 21st, 2015 at 1:37 pm

The people selling “common good” are oligarchs and their politicians. The Soviets had that line down pat. You don’t hear much from them these days. Wonder why?

Who enforces the “common good”? What is their cut?

M Simon
6 years ago

ManlyMan
August 20th, 2015 at 8:36 pm

Thank you for your support.

==========

I may be loved. I may be hated.

I am not ignored. And lucky you – at this point neither are you.

rugby11ljh
rugby11ljh
6 years ago
Reply to  M Simon

@Softek http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cXW0uuJriE4 “He doesn’t have full access to his identity as a man because identifying as a man, as he really is, sexuality and all, in his mind — is evil.” Good point “When you’re taught from birth to be ashamed of your sexuality, and that identifying with it is evil, what else are you supposed to do?” Better point “And he’s reinforcing their brainwashing by beating the shit out of himself and apologizing for ‘everything he did.’” “And how can you have an identity when you reject the deepest parts about yourself because other people have told you that… Read more »

theasdgamer
6 years ago

Deti has argued the point that if a wife refuses sex (to say nothing of perpetuating a life-long sexless marriage) it’s she who has broken her vows and a husband’s cheating is only a reflexive response to her breaking that vow.

I don’t know about Deti, but I’ve been arguing that point recently.

teddj4g
teddj4g
6 years ago

M Simon – used to be the alpha of the clan enforced the common good. By the looks of it no one is enforcing it today. But that conversation leads down a political path, and its Friday so not looking for that kind of debate today. My point was the West is still operating under a set of rules that aren’t being enforced and/or are instead being abused. Dunno if theres a fix that doesn’t involve guns at this point. That doesn’t mean I have to sink to the lowest common denominator and wallow in it. If I did it… Read more »

M Simon
6 years ago

Re: my August 21st, 2015 at 1:42 pm Who decides what is the common good? What if they are wrong? The optimum for human society is to explore all ecological niches. Because the ecology changes. “Common good” does not account for change. Because “common good” can only work while the ecology is static. Top men want to remain top men. And they will use “common good” to do that. They will restrict any advance that threatens their status. Individualism is an ugly thing. The alternative is the hive. === A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan… Read more »

M Simon
6 years ago

teddj4g
August 21st, 2015 at 1:57 pm

Women have no honor. It is not part of their design. I act accordingly.

Social honor? Well I don’t believe in it much. What I do is keep my word. I don’t give it freely.

teddj4g
teddj4g
6 years ago

M Simon – my friend, I never once suggested women have honor. They don’t even understand the concept, although some try very hard. So when a woman behaves it isn’t from a sense of honor. Its because good behavior is expected. We simply stopped expecting good behavior, and that made most women spoiled brats. And to social honor? If all men were honorable and kept their word, half the battle would be won. I don’t believe in social honor as an entity, but as a concept it defines how honorable men can work for a common good. Who decides? We’ve… Read more »

redlight
redlight
6 years ago

“I don’t know about Deti, but I’ve been arguing that point recently”

there has been widespread agreement on this in the various deadbedroom/sexless sites, and that the vow to “love and hold” didn’t mean to cuddle. The sexless marriage has been defined as abuse, but for the FI this is only when the man refuses.

As we move towards peak hypergamy, “cherry” is bring rebranded from virginity to clit, as it seems few female virgins left. Cool for the Summer by Demi Lovota, now a woman’s n count has to include both x and y.

Andy
Andy
6 years ago

I propose a pussy tax. Nice. Seriously though, the manosphere has solved women. We need to get the message out. Spreading the alpha mindset can only help to reign in FI. The FI is the ruthless animal urge of humanity. The driver of evolution. We as men are the one’s that allowed the FI to advance as far as it has. Maybe we won’t be able to legislate our way out of this mess… But we CAN spread the truth. At a grassroots level men need to understand that the burden of performance is on us! Get a job, make… Read more »

M Simon
6 years ago

It seems that if I include a certain link the comment doesn’t post. So without the link: Badpainter August 21st, 2015 at 10:22 am What you have to consider is as a man if your only life accomplishment is scoring pussy then there is no need for you to leave anything behind. There’s no need for you to endeavor to contribute anything to humanity. No need to think beyond your own lifetime. Well yes. But there is the occasional exception. I chased a LOT of pussy. Caught more than a few. And I designed the I/O board that went into… Read more »

M Simon
6 years ago

teddj4g August 21st, 2015 at 2:17 pm Who decides? We’ve been asking that question since we stood up straight. I decide. For me. You decide for you. Anything else is unjust. I like Brussels sprouts. And broccoli. Sometimes at the same time. You might prefer carrots. What happens when some decider decides that every one should have 1 Kg of Brussels sprouts a week? Well I might be happy. But there will be a LOT of waste. And generally this country was founded on “the individual decides” principle. Very rare in human history. It has been very successful. So the… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@Simon (re r vs K): “Women were always like that. They just don’t feel the need in the current milieu to cover their tracks.” Agreed. As I’ve stated, left to their own devices, women will do whatever they can get away with, and they’ll reward scum with sex & love. Limits need to be imposed on them from without because for the most part, they’re really not capable of doing so from within. One of those ways is to limit their access to – and the availability of – the most extremely r-selected men. Nothing exists as an extreme absolute;… Read more »

M Simon
6 years ago

teddj4g
August 21st, 2015 at 2:17 pm

And to social honor? If all men were honorable and kept their word, half the battle would be won.

There is profit to be made from dishonor. It is why it still exists. Same for lies, etc. So I do not expect much honor. Me? I keep my word because it is long run profitable.

I avoid lies and liars because they do not work well in engineering. If I was a salesman I might be more prone to shade the truth.

M Simon
6 years ago

Kid Jupiter
August 21st, 2015 at 2:48 pm

I don’t think you can put the clamps to women without women wanting that clamping. We will need a cohort of women “shafted” sufficiently by the 20somethings women to want to do something about it. We are not there yet. Not even close.

Shiva
Shiva
6 years ago

“Having a woman completely relax into your care, and submit to you is the most natural, whole feeling that you or she can experience. Probably one of the only upsides of marriage. More people need to understand that.”

Is that an objective reality or part of your male romantic fantasy?

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Kid Jupiter, Yes, things have changed drastically over the past 20 years, to be more exact. Anecdotal Story #1081. When I was growing up in the 60’s and 70’s, I was taught by word and example, that sometimes violence is the only solution to certain difficult problems. In elementary school discipline would, in certain cases , come with a wooden paddle across the butt. If a fight broke out in the school yard or anywhere on school property, both participants would be summoned to the principals office, where you would be given a choice of suspension for 3 days and… Read more »

Vitriol
Vitriol
6 years ago

@Kid Jupiter “The scumbags I’m referring to – the ones the chicks I observe rewarding with love & sex – are not, for the most part, married men having a fling or keeping a mistress or two or three. They’re lowlife dirtbags. Alcoholics. Druggies. Gamblers. LOSERS. They don’t seem to give a shit about anything – themselves included. (Mostly themselves, actually.) Chicks love it – from ALL socioeconomic levels. The more dirtbaggier, the better.” One contention I’ve always had with the game/PUA stuff is that there is an idea that dudes like this who are “naturals” or “alphas” ought to… Read more »

teddj4g
teddj4g
6 years ago

M Simon – if its every man for himself, there is no society. And I’d argue that the US is or is not “successful” depending on your metrics. Rich? Sure. Powerful? Indeed. Moral and righteous? Not a chance in hell. We worked hard early on to become rich and powerful, then we turned control over to the inmates. I can’t see our countries rugged individualistic attitude at all in the modern selfish version. It used to be about being self sufficient, now being an individual means acting entitled and selfish. Its not the same at all.

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

@Vitriol, Chicks love drama. Druggies, as you put it, criminals , etc. etc. etc. These guys are ” dangerous ” because they seem to not give a damn. Non conforming. Chicks like that when they are young as long as the non conforming aspect carries a hint of danger ( ie: getting arrested ). What guys have to concentrate on is the deeper analysis of what it is that women find so appealing about these types. What is it in their mannerisms that’s so attractive? Drama and excitement is a part of the equation, but what is it actually that… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@Vitriol: “One contention I’ve always had with the game/PUA stuff is that there is an idea that dudes like this [KJ ed.: Scumbags] who are “naturals” or “alphas” ought to be emulated.” This is a great example of the rational male mind at work. You make an empirical observation that doing A will lead to B, and you want B, so you try to emulate those who you observe doing A and successfully getting B so you, too, will get B. I get it. The problem is exactly as you state: who the F wants to stoop to the level… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Thanks Rollo. It would’ve taken me a while to find this.

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@Rollo:

Have you seen this clip of “Mr. Alpha” Corey Worthington getting his ass handed to him? Warms my heart.

rugby11ljh
rugby11ljh
6 years ago
Reply to  Rollo Tomassi

@M simon Have you read Tunnel in the sky? “What I do is keep my word. I don’t give it freely.” I miss hanging out with people that speak that way. The less you say the more you say. “I am aware of myself. And, of course, the only things that are aware of themselves and conscious of their individuality are irritated eyes, cut fingers, sore teeth. A healthy eye, finger, tooth might as well not even be there. Isn’t it clear that individual consciousness is just sickness?” Yevgeny Zamyatin, We “The whole of life, in all its complexity and… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

Actually, the guy in the red shirt blew it. He had the perfect opportunity right at the end for a nice knee lift to that little punk’s face right and missed it.

kobayashii1681
6 years ago

@Rollo: “You can make all the appeals to morality you’d like, but just know that our very learned, very conditioned understanding of morality is based on a societal imperative that prioritizes women above all else. And once again, The Cardinal Rule of sexual strategies: For one gender’s sexual strategy to succeed the other gender must compromise or abandon their own. Our gynocentric social context is one that promotes men compromising their own imperatives. So it will force them to abandon it.” Gold Sensei….fucking gold!!! With regards to what Softek & Ted said in reference to religion….I was the same way.… Read more »

kobayashii1681
6 years ago

@Rollo: “I’m less concerned with relaxing care and more concerned with her eyes rolling back in her head every time we’re fucking.

That is the most natural, whole feeling that you or she can experience.”

Hehe…
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/86/86244c56b59fbdc31aaf050c6a4cbf6a1298918819b755d141e416d1059f694f.jpg

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“What guys have to concentrate on is the deeper analysis of what it is that women find so appealing about these types.” They are heroes, and in times of real trial the lives of the cubicle dwellers, both female and male, will depend on them. They are not motes in the beige goo. If you don’t understand why women are taken by heroes, you might be a mote in the beige goo. You don’t believe they are heroes?* Read up on Hercules. One’s time might be better put to asking why society has no use for heroes and relegates them… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@kfg

How are scumbags/criminals “heroes?” You lost me with that comment.

Lucien
Lucien
6 years ago

“Socialism for pussy. What could possibly go wrong?”

Yeah, it used to be called marriage!

lh
lh
6 years ago

Kid Jupiter: “These days, violence is frowned upon and there’s a huge price to pay for engaging in it – even in self-defense in some jurisdictions. In times past, a lot of these r-selected cad-type guys wouldn’t have had too long of a career, since they’d have the shit kicked out of them by the K-selected majority – if not be terminated with extreme prejudice.” You are dreaming. The Betas run from a proper Alpha gaze. Alpha doesn’t have that fear of legal consequences and neither of getting hurt. In the face of something like that the fear will be… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

Women changed from women in the past because hypergamy is pushed, accepted and celebrated openly. The education system and society in general tell boys that using violence to solve problems is not acceptable behavior. This is why we are inundated with tales of ” Bullying “. Boys are being told not to respond to violence with violence in kind. That shit is crazy. So, the boys who won’t conform to the dictates of society will stand out. As Rollo alludes to, these boys/men may become ” good alphas or bad alphas “. You can still be averse to taking shit… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

should be ” xenoestrogens ” above. I got big fingers…

Lucien
Lucien
6 years ago

“Seems women are wont to mistake criminal, scumbag, antisocial behavior in men as ‘dominance’. It’s really screwing up our society. If decent, honorable (K selected) guys were able to straighten these scumbags out without fear of legal problems, you’d see how fast women’s behavior would change in the face of seeing her little scumbag ‘tingle generating’ “alpha” wimpering from a real dominance display.” “I wasn’t raised to be, nor have I ever been, an extreme pushover-beta-blue pill-nice guy, but I’m increasingly noticing out in the field these days that women are interpreting even the slightest display of decency and respect… Read more »

Lucien
Lucien
6 years ago

“The testosterone thing is true and very troubling. I’ve read that everything from diet ( soy products, lack of red meat and cholesterol ) to environmental factors ( BPA containing plastics and xenoextrogens in every damn thing ) are a major factor. Add to that a sedentary lifestyle and a push for boys/men to ” control ” themselves and basically be quiet and demure so as not to be threatening or make others uncomfortable has to take a hormonal toll.” Testosterone levels are also responsive to experience. In other words, being the “alpha” literally increases your testosterone levels, and being… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@lh “Why? Wouldn’t it be rational to avoid it once you understand women see it as weakness? And irrational to cling to your ideals? I mean ideals are good as long as they provide a benefit. I doubt there ever was one. The hope seems to be if you follow them, others will too and so you will be protected from what your ideals ban. But your ideals will always bind you more than the others. And so I would even argue having them is a weakness itself.” Treating people with a modicum of decency and respect, especially men, is… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

I’m a huge fan of balance. Yin and Yang. Decency and respect are not signs of weakness. I don’t think most women perceive it that way either. But if decent and respectful is all you have to offer, that puts you out of balance. Yin and Yang. positive and negative. Hot and cold…etc. etc. Always remember that your ” values and morals ” are most important to you and only you. It’s not something you display to earn points in society or in dating or meeting women. Never get upset because others don’t admire and respect your ideals and beliefs.… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

@Kid Jupiter, You know what ” they ” say, testosterone levels decline after your 30’s. I have mine checked annually. but for us, the real true danger is estrogen and estrogen dominance. I agree with what you say about the abundant assholery that abounds. I’ve been fortunate to avoid many assholes since I’ve come of an age to acquire assets that could be taken from me through incarceration and lawsuits. But, in the end, I only know 1 manner of dealing with physical threats and all of the cardio and stretching and lifting is to ensure that I can take… Read more »

Vektor
Vektor
6 years ago

Peak hypergamy? No. Not yet. Women haven’t changed and will never change. They will get away with what they are able to get away with. Honor…loyalty…morality……meaningless to the female. Liabilities to the male. Marriage. Why does it exist? According to the current narrative, marriage is for ‘love’. Romance…soul mate bullshit. Gays seek it to legitimize/normalize their ‘lifestyle’. But why does marriage really exist? I think it was someone on Dalrock’s site that spelled it out…..males and females are sexually attracted to each other because of biology, but the essence of the pair bond between men and women is based on… Read more »

Softek
Softek
6 years ago

“Frame, Frame, Frame, Frame, Frame…. Mental point of origin. As you believe, so you shall become.” ———- Years of incel. Work out, completely change clothes, new haircut, look great, still choke when doing approaches, keep trying, keep choking, can’t get laid. Extreme premature ejaculation and performance anxiety even if you did get laid. Allowing yourself to be treated like a Beta and hating yourself for it. You should know better but you’re on autopilot, and you wish you could kill yourself because you’re so pissed off at what a pussy you are and feeling absolutely powerless to change it. I’d… Read more »

Softek
Softek
6 years ago

@ Blaximus The testosterone thing is true for sure. Plenty of eggs help. Liver/liverwurst/braunschweiger is very good too, and chock full of nutrients. Liver tabs didn’t get so popular in bodybuilding for no reason. Cholesterol + vitamin A = pregnenolone, which is the building block for steroid hormones. If you’re older, supplementing with pregnenolone can be a very good idea. I’ve tried it myself and I’m a young guy. 100mg a day. See how you feel. Studies seem to indicate that one of the major things it improves is memory. But it should really help a lot to improve hormone… Read more »

Vitriol
Vitriol
6 years ago

@Softek “I’d say about every day since January I have seriously thought about committing suicide at least a few times a day. I’m changing. I’m pushing through it. Leaving behind a lifetime of shame/humiliation/extreme anger/self-hatred. I’m not an example of an easy case for swallowing TRP.” Jesus dude, did you see what I said this afternoon? “Men will often willingly flagellate themselves (to the point of suicide in some cases) because the conditioning is so strong.” No girl or lack of pussy is worth killing yourself over. I don’t know if it’s obvious from my comments, but I’m not new… Read more »

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Kid Jupiter: In the way that Hercules is swingin’ on the stars, instead of from a gibbet as he would any time during the modern era. In the way that Hector was a hero to the Greeks, even though he fought on the opposite side to defend a crime against them. In the way that the 10,000 were heroes, even though they were just a bunch of sell swords. A hero is not defined by which side he is on, and isn’t defined by law. Themistocles saved Greece from the Persians, and then the law exiled him from Athens. George… Read more »

rugby11ljh
rugby11ljh
6 years ago
Reply to  kfg

@lh “But I read somewhere (here?) these days there are scientific studies showing the average level of testosterone in US and European males dropped by 18% in the last 20-30 years.” Wow @Blaximus “I believe that just as a child must learn to walk and talk, he must also learn to recognize adversity and decide how to deal with it on his own terms. Only a man can instruct a male child properly in this regard.” Just got done speaking to my dad about this evening he can’t finish both of Rollo’s books because it’s hard for him. On many… Read more »

Softek
Softek
6 years ago

@ Vitriol Just woke up after a few hours sleep. Took some of my friend’s Xanax — didn’t seem to do much but at least it let me sleep from 2-5am. The anxiety is awful. “You need sex” is true. It might not kill you outright, but anxiety, depression, other malfunctions to the point of suicide — definitely possible. The link between loneliness and insomnia is well established. And sleep deprivation is a vicious cycle. Go extensive periods of time without sex, get anxious and depressed as a result, lose tons of sleep as a result — vicious cycle. It… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@Softek

Hang in there, buddy. It’s always darkest right before dawn. Hit me up if you need someone to talk to: kidjupiter9@gmail.com.

______

@kfg

I understand your point, but to compare Greek heroes to 21st century criminal-class scumbags is a bit of a stretch, don’t you think?

dragnet
dragnet
6 years ago

@ Vektor

“Masculinity isn’t having all the things masculine men have—it’s having the will to fight for them.”

A great insight.

A Definite Beta Guy
6 years ago

Anyone here read Overcoming Bias? Robin Hanson talks a lot about the difference between Forager values and Farmer Values. Strict monogamy as we understand it is a Farmer Value, IE something that comes about only after the Neolithic Era. Forager values entail a more “egalitarian” situation and generally have less life-long relationships. That’s what we naturally “like.” As we’ve become wealthier, we’ve tried increasing our Forager values. Of course, we don’t live in a Forager society. Those societies typically have a LOT of male-on-male violence. Something on the order of 30% of men die violently in hunter-gatherer tribes, so local… Read more »

A Definite Beta Guy
6 years ago

Two weeks ago, at a dinner table with some friends, I said this to my wife:
“You don’t need to accept my opinion, you just need to follow it.”

The SJW jaws dropped.

Wife seems to like it, most of the time. Right now she’s sick…keeping my fingers crossed, we pulled the goalie about a month ago.

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

I just wanted to add this link because it’s on point to what we we’ve been discussing about treating people with a baseline of decency and respect, vs. being a full-time asshole: http://illimitablemen.com/2015/06/20/morality-and-machiavellianism/ Point 8 in this essay is pretty much how I approach things, too, and elucidates more on what I wrote in my last (epic-length) comment. The guy who writes the Illimitable Men blog is an excellent writer. I think I actually got turned onto his blog when he or someone else posted a link to it in the comments here at RM. I highly recommend reading his… Read more »

rugby11ljh
rugby11ljh
6 years ago
Reply to  Kid Jupiter

@Kid Jupiter
“Nevertheless, such people must guard such principles from public view, for these principles are the individual’s Achilles heel and will be exploited by those who do not share them.”

“It takes a smarter man to balance the nuances of his own morality within a society that is powerless to impose a collective morality.”

“But then one must remember the sadist only respects power, like a woman, and thus has no frame of reference for innate altruism.”

Good points to think about.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Kid Jupiter: http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/kuszewski20091117/

And this article even plays by the morality of the beige goo, equating the hero with the altruistic Good Guy(tm) and still concludes that the only real difference between the hero and scumbag is the degree of empathy.

What good is a man, to a woman, who is going to die for some bint he doesn’t even know? She wants the man to be hers.

The article you link to yourself is also much on point.

Jeremy
6 years ago

Christ almighty, the fact that a fight between two young men even makes news tells you how fem-centric the media is. Women don’t understand violence and how it is entirely separate and distinct from evil. To many women, all violence is evil or is born from negative thoughts and that’s that. It is inconceivable to most fem-centric females that often two men fighting are actually going to be best friends the next day. Women cannot understand that two boys often actually grow closer as pals in 2 minutes of fighting than 12 hours of sitting and talking could have brought… Read more »

Andy
Andy
6 years ago

I’m less concerned with relaxing care and more concerned with her eyes rolling back in her head every time we’re fucking.

Well, yeah thats part of it. Most of it. You don’t need a marriage for that though. I’m trying to find an up side.

23
23
6 years ago

I think we have such an awesome understanding of the way things really tick in this world (hypergamy, AFBB) and after sometime we internalize these powerful thoughts and truths, we completely neglect how foreign this knowledge is to the common, plugged in man. I just feel like it’ll take decades for the common, plugged in to get this stuff. It’s such an incredible abandonment of your ego and what you knew before, most guys reject it immediately and are upset at even thinking that unicorn GF in college, that fucked 5 guys behind his back, had a firm driven motivate,… Read more »

rugby11ljh
rugby11ljh
6 years ago
Reply to  23

@23
“Only guys I’ve ever met who even have a sniff of knowledge of hypergamy, have banged 30+ chicks. And they hate admitting to knowing about women’s true ways and DO NOT like talking about it.”

Huge reason why I am here. I’ve noticed that to on trying to bring up these truths in public. I’ve stopped and just observed for awhile.

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@23

Great comment.

The disturbing part is that men must still know exactly what to do in a relationship with a woman ( “Just Get It”), but most women today have pretty much lost touch with what they have to do in a relationship with a man in return (“It Doesn’t Matter If She Gets It”). And that’s ok, because they have the pussy.

FI Uber Alles.

Badpainter
Badpainter
6 years ago

Jeremy – ” To many women, all violence is evil or is born from negative thoughts and that’s that.”

Because:

1. Solipsism
2. Projection
3. And a tool generally of little use to the individual unarmed woman who if she resorts to violence has little chance of defeating a man who doesn’t pull punches. Thus a tool only used in conjunction with emotional manipulation and shaming rather like a parsley garnish to prove a meal is serious.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

” . . . it’s exactly this tendency towards physical dominance that makes for the most exciting and arousing mates for women.” The man who they, and only they, control in the game of “Let’s you and him fight,” even if it costs them the occasional split lip and black eye. While men get a feeling of power from actually having power, women get it from manipulating the powerful to act in their behalf. Taking a punch or two themselves only adds to this sense, as it implies the man they control is among the most powerful, therefore they have… Read more »

kobayashii1681
6 years ago

@Softek – hang in there bruv….It’s only forward from here. You will be the man you want to be….

The Rabid Wolverine
6 years ago

@Kid Jupiter You make a great point and I’ve seen it sometimes too – women not knowing how to be a women in return to a strong, indifferent man. But, all in all, I’ve seen some real flashes of a “50s woman” (cleaning, cooking, laundry) towards me and other male friends of mine WHEN the frame is rock solid and attraction high. I’ve never forgotten how happy my ex was on our first date, to just get me a beer from the bar. After saying “I need a beer”, you should’ve seen her eyes light up and saying with glee… Read more »

cptnemo2013
6 years ago

Reblogged this on MGTOW 2.0.

23
23
6 years ago

The Rabid Wolverine = 23. No clue that name came up like that.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

The porn hub twitter !.

“Women are 113% more likely to view “hardcore” porn than men.”

Women needs to be romanced MYASS.

And given that only 24% of Pornhub’s audience is female, we’re clearly talking about a smaller sample size here.!!
I guarantee you the 76% would love to watch it too .

Just Saying
Just Saying
6 years ago

they could become the ‘selected’ instead of the ‘selectors’. To a certain extent they already are – of course, since I’m in a band, they select me by coming back stage after a performance, but then it is my choice as to which one or ones I’ll be enjoying tonight. They don’t have to play my game, and that is fine – I won’t waste my time on them, but every night after a performance there are plenty that decide to come back to explore what may come. I don’t care if they are single, or married, or have a… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@Just Saying

Wow, you the man! You must be a real rock star! What was your tour gross last year? Must of been HUGE! Your story sounds like one from the annals of the mighty Van Halen in their heyday. Do you make the promoters take out all the brown M&Ms from the bowl backstage, too?

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

@Kid Jupiter:

Putting lifts in your shoes would make you look taller without having to knock another man down or challenge him to knock the chip off your shoulder.

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@kfg

Wasn’t digging the bragging. Hate braggarts. Usually a compensation mechanism. Or a lie. Or both.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

If the perspective of men who get laid like tile annoys you, why are you here?

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

“Wife seems to like it, most of the time. Right now she’s sick…keeping my fingers crossed, we pulled the goalie about a month ago.”

SQUEE! How exciting.
Good luck ADBG. 😀

Softek
Softek
6 years ago

@ kobayashi Thanks. One thing that helps is realizing it’s nothing new. I just am more acutely aware than ever now of why I feel suicidal. And yes, it all comes down to hypergamy, and my ability to accept and deal with it accordingly to get my needs met. The stark realization that depression, anxiety, my disrupted childhood/adolescence from mental illness doesn’t mean anything to anyone, and I’m really, truly alone in my struggle — — no one can pick me up but me. So not only is the burden of completely emotionally providing for myself my sole responsibility (people… Read more »

Softek
Softek
6 years ago

P.S. My friend ‘brags’ all the time about women he’s been with. His N count by his estimate is anywhere from 800-1200. He’s closing in on 70. Has a lot of history behind him.

I love those stories. I try to learn as much as I can from them as well. Guys like that are gold mines of knowledge. Guys that have tons of in-field experience and ‘just get’ how women work. I make as many mental notes as I can and am not beyond writing things down in a notebook either.

redlight
redlight
6 years ago

“Women once held the cards – now they don’t”

you’re saying we are beyond peak hypergamy?

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@kfg I don’t need advice on how to get laid. I’ve gotten laid plenty in my life. The reason I started commenting on this thread is because I notice the assholery bar is being set higher and higher for getting laid, and it doesn’t sit well with me, and I’m not comfortable taking it to that level. There’s a problem with the story Just Saying relates. If his story is true, of course… I’m not doubting that guys in popular rock bands have the ability to get laid. But I’m not buying his story. A little too over the top.… Read more »

lh
lh
6 years ago

“This is a trial by fire.”

You know your development tactic is mostly about getting so numb from failure you finally will stop caring? There are surely some shortcuts to outcome independence.

Men need sex but don’t get sex as long as they need it. You gotta hack this one somehow.

kfg
kfg
6 years ago

“Don’t laugh . . .”

Why would I laugh? I’m a folkie. That story and its variants makes up half the traditional repertoire. I believe the theme also features prominently in an epic poem.

None of which has anything to do with your initial, reflexive response. This one is significantly more reasoned and contains an actual point.

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
6 years ago

@kfg

Guess you’re not a fan of sarcasm. BTW, I also did stand up comedy in NYC for a few years semi-professionally. Tough crowd. BA-DUMP-BUMP.

rugby11ljh
rugby11ljh
6 years ago
Reply to  Kid Jupiter

@Rollo Peak hypergamy Was at my local fair today. Found the girlfriend of my last rugby teams with the dude by the horse section of the fair. Meet her in a blue pill state before I found your blog. She’s no longer with him but with this other guy. It’s strange yet it’s all weird because I’m calm about every part of it. She used to calm out and watch us play at a field down the street from where I am residing again. It reminded did me of women loving you for what you are than who you are.… Read more »

Liz
Liz
6 years ago

“Tough crowd. BA-DUMP-BUMP.”

‘Tis.

fartofseduction
6 years ago

@Softek I haven’t commented much on these threads, but I read almost every comment. I’ve followed you’re comments, as well. I’m 34. I’ve been married and divorced. I spent eight years of my adult life with one woman, years of that were basically sexless. Truth is, I lost interest in her as much as she probably did in me. Before her (I was 24 when we first hooked up) I had my own run at the SMP with some success. N count around 40. Half that was before marriage. Don’t consider myself a natural, at all. I discovered the red… Read more »

theasdgamer
6 years ago

Liz, you left out a ‘t’. (For the rest of you, be advised that Liz likes tits.) Liz, a broad squeezed one of my pecks–last week in a club–and shook it. Bizarre! I was so surprised I didn’t do anything. Just gobsmacked.

rugby11ljh
rugby11ljh
6 years ago
Reply to  theasdgamer

@fartofseduction “There’s no magic, you do it and then you are done and you go to sleep or eat some food. They ultimately know what they are good for and they like to keep their tool in steady use. Go get laid mother fucker!” Hehehe @Softek I mediate on this because I am a man. Samurai Song Robert Pinsky, 1940 When I had no roof I made Audacity my roof. When I had No supper my eyes dined. When I had no eyes I listened. When I had no ears I thought. When I had no thought I waited. When… Read more »

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
6 years ago

@Badpainter This makes me an “asshole”, which I can’t deny because at that point I simply don’t care. Had a chick repeatedly accuse me of being an asshole this weekend. Never had any replies other than “I can live with that” or “You’ll get over it.” Honestly at this point to me “you’re an asshole” is just the female way of saying “You are so in with me.” When I respond in full chauvanist mode I am either disgusted by their defense of the stupid, or I lose all respect for them because they cave without a fight. Either way… Read more »

redlight
redlight
6 years ago

after the peak:

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Blaximus
Blaximus
6 years ago

For the record: Playing in a band will definitely get you laid. I’ve played in bands and gone out on tour with famous friends in bands where everybody, including roadies, got laid nightly. A nice car will get you laid. In high school I had 3 cars. Not new, expensive cars, but nice rides. A 70 nova powered by a nasty 454. A relative died and left me his cars because he knew I understood what they were – a 1969 Chevelle powered by a 396 ( all factory ), red with black rally stripes, and a 1970 Chevelle convertible,… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
6 years ago

Sun Wukong – “Honestly at this point to me ‘you’re an asshole’ is just the female way of saying ‘You are so in with me.'”

I find a bit confusing that being an asshole gets rewarded, and the bigger the asshole I am, the more obsequious the behavior in response. Thanks to Rollo et. al I now understand the why of that, but continue to be surprised when I see it action.

Oh, and in addition to your responses I also like “don’t judge me”, “yeah? So?”, and “what are you going to do about it.”

SGT Ted
6 years ago

Not placing pussy on any type of pedestal, will get you laid.

Softek,

You are pedestalizing getting laid. It’s fun, yes, but it isn’t all that. Not enough to obsess about it too much.

You need to not give a shit so much about getting laid. You need to develop yourself for YOU. The pussy will follow.

Softek
Softek
6 years ago

Okay, hold the phone. I’ve realized that most guys take for granted basic things like getting a girl’s number or getting her to go out with you somewhere. What do you do? Just ask her outright for her number? Ask her if she’d like to go out sometime? I just don’t understand how to do it. Get from Point A to Point B. As in, what do you do to get a girl isolated? Do you just ask for her number? Do you ask her if she wants to go out sometime? What do you do? I’m completely lost over… Read more »

Pwn
Pwn
6 years ago

Hypergamy will never go away, much like my desire to bang teenage hotties won’t go away. That doesn’t mean it’s manifestations won’t change. Due the fluidity of what alpha can be depending on the social context one is in, hypergamy can be maneuvered into a way women can find different mates than now. Given this and that women have a sisterhood mentality being largely oblivious to what men feel when said feelings contradict what they feel, the onus is on men to do something about it. I find it amusing my mother has these sisterhood instincts despite being a loving… Read more »

Softek
Softek
6 years ago

By the way, thanks again to everyone for the comments in reply to what I posted. I really appreciate the support. It means the world to me and I enjoy learning whatever I can from guys who are out there getting the things in life that I want to get, but don’t have yet. My situation isn’t exactly funny, but I just kind of laughed at it. It’s gotten so extreme it’s ridiculous. Which is a good thing. I’m having a hard time right now taking it seriously. This is exactly the mentality I want to have. Not like “oh… Read more »

Pwn
Pwn
6 years ago

Walawala, all the girls I fucked since I broke up with my ex had boyfriends and I’m astounded by how atrocious these men are at game and sex. What’s funny is that I feel immense power over these girls since I realize they most likely don’t cum with their boyfriends during their bi-monthly sex and I either edge them during sex for my own amusement or tease them about their boyfriends sounding like the loves of their lives and that they should marry.

Pwn
Pwn
6 years ago

@23, I was teasing a girl with a bf by whispering how I’d rough her up in her ear and then I stopped and told her that she should go tell her bf to do this to her. I paused and then said but if you told a man to do it, it would do nothing for you. So yes, lol, this is why I laugh each time women are asked what they want sexually or what makes them tingle: if they tell you, it has no value. @softek, you need to take it easy and have patience. When I… Read more »

rugby11ljh
rugby11ljh
6 years ago
Reply to  Pwn

@Softek Dude I am surprised anyone would have the time and Patience to deal with all my own Social inadequacies. What I do is work on Each concept the red pill about one day at a time. It’s a lot of work so I take it slow. Need rest see damn I should watch what the hell I type and take care of myself. Damn now I’m hungry. Damn By way try this I am self conscious as fuck and I do stand up or improve to get over my self awareness. It’s about me learning game while taking care… Read more »

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
6 years ago

I love love love women ‘s (body) . Let’s face it my fellow Rational men, Hypergamy will never ever be controlled AS LONG AS there are spineless weak men (betas /white nights).. The question should be : Peak Beta men?!. Hypergamy is rooted in women’s blood, literally. Now, is men’s beta behavior in blood too? No. How we are going to teach men that women are nothing but little girls? Little girls need authority and dominant figures. To be able to control Hypergamy and do women a favor by doing so , we need to teach men how to be… Read more »

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