Instinct, Emotion and Reason

Before I dig in here today I want to give credit where it’s due. I was inspired to consider what I’m about to go into here by a quick-hit Tweet from Illimitable Man. I didn’t bookmark it so I apologize for not linking it here today, but the general gist of it was about the mental processes humans go through when we’re presented with environmental stimuli that demands interpretation and a behavioral response. I considered this process quite a bit while I was studying behavioral psychology – Instinct, Emotion and Reason (or rationality if you prefer) – and I’m almost embarrassed that I haven’t covered this in terms of a Red Pill perspective in over 600 essays now.

The idea is fairly simple; when we are prompted by environmental (and sometimes internal) stimuli human beings process this information using three psychological mechanisms – our primal instincts, our emotional interpretations and our rational (reason) facilities. I’m not sure these processes get their proper due in Red Pill theory today.  I’ve detailed all of these processes individually for years on this blog, but generally they were outlined in the context of whatever topic I was focusing on. In this essay I’m going to elaborate on these aspects individually. Later, as part of this series, I’ll explore how they act in concert for our overall cognitive process, and then how they influence intersexual and intersocial dynamics. I think this is a useful exercise because a lot of foundational Red Pill ideas stem from these processes as well as the social conventions and interpretive priorities the Feminine Imperative relies on today.

For sake of clarity I am going to use a few behavioral psych terms like stimuli in this essay. This isn’t to throw $10 words at you, it’s just easier to elaborate on these processes with abstract terms. For example, when I use stimuli I mean any physical, environmental or cognitive prompt that our conscious or unconscious mind demands an interpretation, processing of and response to. That can be a wide variety of things so, stimuli serves as a general term.

Lastly, the following here is my interpretation of these processes. While a lot of this will align pretty well with established theories, this is my take on them and not some official, settled science of facts. If you think I’m full of shit please tell me why, this is still a work in progress for me.

Instinct

Instinct seems like the easiest of these processes to understand, but it’s really the cognitive aspect that’s most misunderstood, marginalized and often demonized. The reason for this is because our instincts reside in our subconscious (hindbrain) processing of stimuli. When I refer to men or women’s evolved mental firmware in my essays it’s our instinctual process that I’m referring to. These are the unlearned, inborn aspects of our human nature that influence the other processes and remain largely in our subconscious. Our instinctual processing is a direct result of our evolution. It evolved as a vitally necessary aspect of our cognitive processing in that it aided in our ability to survive in, and adapt to, a chaotic, primal environment when food was scarce, predators and rivals wanted us dead, and reproductive opportunities and raising a child to a survivable age were at a premium.

There are a lot of examples of our instinct level processing and each instinctual response triggers more complex processing up the cognitive chain through emotion and reason. If we were presented with a dangerous stimuli (a sabertooth tiger) our instinctual process triggers a fight or flight response physically in our bodies (adrenaline release). Needless to say this was an evolved adaptation that served our species well and was passed along genetically as part of our mental firmware. I’m going to use some simplistic examples here but, if you really want to dig into our preloaded mental firmware and how we developed it I would suggest looking into the earlier works of Dr. Steven Pinker and The Red Queen by Matt Ridley (I’ll post links in the comments).

Another example is human beings’ innate fear (reservations at least) of snakes and spiders – poisonous animals that looked easy to kill, but could kill humans without warning. That’s an example of relatively beneficial firmware, but the reason instinct gets a bad rep is due to the instincts that once were beneficial to us individually, but are less beneficial to us socially. Greed and gluttony were very practical, instinctually motivated behaviors that stemmed from a need to survive in a time when resources were scarce. Today greed is (mostly) seen as anti-social and a compulsion to overeat in a time when food is abundant is why we presently have an obesity epidemic.

Those are easily understood examples, but where things get more complex is in how our instinctual process influences the other processes (emotion and reason). Instinct gets demonized because in our ‘enlightened‘ era we like to believe that instinct is more trouble than it is beneficial. Most of that is due to a belief that our other processes are superior to (or at least should supersede) our instincts. Most of what we call sin or immoral behavior is motivated by the instinctual process. In fact, the only time our instinctual awareness and reactions are really credited with anything positive is when it gets us out of some life threatening situation or it leads to some prosocial outcome. For instance, the male instinct to protect women by putting ourselves between them and danger; that’s an instinct and resultant behavior (seemingly altruistic male self-sacrifice) that gets a lot of praise in our feminine-primary social order. However, for the most part, we tend to judge ‘baser instincts’ as a net negative.

The truth about the instinctual process is that none of our other processes function at full efficiency without it. Today, as a result of our feminine-primary acculturation, we want to relegate instinct’s influence to something “we’ve evolved beyond”. The popular consensus is we’ve raised ourselves above base instincts by either acknowledging the importance of the emotional process or that rationality and the self-control based on it immunizes us from its influence. Not only are these belief foolish and hubristic, they’re provably untrue. When it comes to concepts like the ‘selfish gene‘ and the physical differences in the evolved instinctual processes of men and women, it becomes necessary for a social order based on blank-slate equalism to demonize and marginalize the influence of, and behaviors attributed to, instinct.

The survival benefits and behaviors that make up the instinctual process were so necessary that they had to become part of our unconscious species firmware. Because the instinctual process is part of our animalistic hindbrain mental subroutines it’s something we have little or no direct control over until its effect is brought (often forced) into our conscious awareness. As such, and because we prefer to think of ourselves as emotional and rational beings, we tend to think of the influence of instinct as something we either have or need to have mastery over, and to a large extent this mastery makes sense. The truth is that instinct is an aspect of ourselves that needs to be controlled as well as embraced depending on circumstances.

Emotion

From an evolutionary perspective, the emotional process of interpreting stimuli is a mechanism of how our brains and biochemistry interact to affect our moods, demeanor and ’emotionality’ in response to both instinctual cues and the raw information of stimuli itself. Furthermore, the emotional process can also be influenced and/or modified by the rational process. I’m trying to be concise here, but our emotional response to information/stimuli is very much an evolved dynamic with latent purposes and practical functionalities. I’m making this distinction here because for millennia we’ve raised the effects of emotion to a mythical, metaphysical, importance.

While emotion often has immediate effects on us, emotion also has long term effect with regard to the stimuli it processes. There are dozens of definitions of emotions and there’s no way I’m going to lay them all out for you here. However, popular psychology asserts that there are as many as ten and as few as six base emotions:

  • Anger.
  • Disgust.
  • Fear.
  • Happiness.
  • Sadness.
  • Surprise.

Sometimes Contempt is added to this list. If these seem overly simplistic they are, again, abstracts to build more complex emotions on (some paleo-researchers insist there are only four base emotions across our evolved ethno-histories). For our purposes these base emotions will serve to show the connections between the instinctual process which prompts them and the rational process that modifies and sometimes informs them.

Each of these emotional responses is prompted by how our senses, brain and then instinctual process interprets a stimuli. Again, using our sabertooth tiger example, the instinctual process determines imminent danger and triggers a synaptic and hormonal response to that danger. As a result of that instinctual process an emotional process and response is triggered – likely fear (flight in most cases), but sometimes anger (fight).

Another example: you see an arousing woman (stimuli) at a party who is displaying behavioral cues and environmental indicators of interest (IOIs). Your instinctual process determines a high potential for a reproductive opportunity. From there the emotional process kicks in: hormones and dopamine (and not a small testosterone spike) that your instinctual process triggered flushes your system and serves as the basis for your emotional process to form an emotional response to the same stimuli. If it all passes the smell test that response (hopefully) will be happiness (and a little surprise mixed in).

There is a visceral biochemical interrelation between emotion and the stimuli/instinct relation that prompts the reaction. Adrenaline is one easy example, another is oxytocin or the “love hormone”. This is a bit of a mischaracterization of the hormone. Oxytocin induces feelings of trust and comfort and is thought to be a significant factor in human’s forming pair bonds and parental investments. There’s a lot more to oxytocin’s implications to our evolution than that, but for now lets look at how our biology influences the emotional process.

We proceed from stimuli to an instinctual response. If there is nothing mitigating that response (such as a rationally learned buffer to mitigate it) the next step in the chain is a biological reaction to that instinct – such as dumping adrenaline into our bloodstream or a post-orgasm flush of oxytocin after sex. From there the emotional process picks up the interpretation of this information as prompted by the cocktail of chemicals moving through our bloodstream and affecting our mental and physical interpretation of that stimuli. That biochemical factor prompts one, or a combination, of the base emotions listed above.

From there more complex emotions (feelings) and combinations thereof begin to form an emotional interpretation and response. This emotional response can be anything from a fast, reflexive one to a more nuanced and contemplative one. Furthermore, this emotional interpretation and response can also be modified by our rational mental process as well as our gendered capacity to process emotions. One thing to bear in mind about our emotional process is that it can imprint its interpretations into our ‘hard memory’ – sometimes so significantly that the memory of that stimuli can re-trigger that physical and emotional response.

Gender-modified interpretation of our emotion process is an important aspect to consider in Red Pill praxeology and one I’ll be elaborating on in the next part of this series. Until recently the accepted ‘science‘ about our emotional process has been based on a blank-slate equalist approach to emotion. In fact we still suffer from the outdated presumptions of academia that both men and women process emotion in the same manner, and, in theory, ought to be expected to have an equal capacity to interpret, respond and express emotion. In light of new technology and new research in a variety of interrelated disciplines we know this is old presumption is patently untrue. Men and women have different mental hardware and are born with different mental firmware. Both sexes interpret and process emotion in gender-specific manners.

I’ll be getting into the personal and social implications that the legacy of this (deliberate) misunderstanding presents in the next essay. For now it’s important to consider that human beings have an innate predisposition to elevate the emotional process above instinct and reason. Likely this is due the to the survival dependency we had on our feelings in our evolutionary past. In a time when we lacked the greater rational facilities and information we’ve developed in our more recent past, depending on and learning from emotion, and the latent purposes it serves, was a species-beneficial system. We depended on our emotions to guide our behaviors (long and short term) for us more in our prehistory when we lacked the more developed rational process we take for granted now. Emotions served latent evolutionary purposes for us in our prehistory and today are still overly emphasized – often to metaphysical attributes – as superior to reason. More on this soon.

Reason

The final piece of our interpretive process is reason, or rationality (I’ll use these interchangeably). Ironically, for all of the social preconceptions that our emotions have made us “more evolved” above instinct, it is our rational process that has evolved us above both instinct and emotion. From and evolutionary standpoint our rational process is a relatively recent development; pushing us past the limitations of instinct and emotion. The definition of rationality is the quality of being based on or in accordance with reason or logic. It is the quality of being able to think sensibly or logically and being endowed with the capacity to reason.

Biologically it’s postulated that our larger brains allowed us to develop a capacity for reason, but that doesn’t mean other animals lack the same facility, it’s just that the rational process is less developed (some would say less environmentally necessary) in those animals by order of degree. Dogs, for example, rely primarily on the instinctual process and the mental (vestigial) firmware they’re born with to solve most of their existential/environmental problems. That doesn’t mean that they lack the ability to learn and form novel (adaptive) behaviors using a rudimentary form of logic. Animals can be taught things, but their capacity to form novel ideas and behaviors is limited to their cognitive abilities. Humans, being the apex species on the planet, had the leisure to take the time necessary to evolve a capacity for logic and as such the rational process developed in us.

Of all our interpretive processes reason is the one that takes the longest to function. Our rational process forms our interpretation of stimuli based on information dissociated from the interpretations of instinct and emotion. Reason requires (accurate) knowledge derived from learning and experience, but there is also an improvisational element to the process.

Before I get too far in the weeds here I need to make a distinction; what I’m outlining is the rational mental process we employ to interpret and interact with stimuli, not rationality, the concept of reason or rationalism. That’s important because it’s all too easy to get lost in philosophical implications of reason when we look at the process of how we come to it.

As mentioned above, the rational process modifies the instinctual and emotional processes. Example, in high school, in drivers ed class, we’re taught to turn into a skid rather than turn with the skid. When we’re driving and we find ourselves in a skid our instinctive impulse is to slam on the the breaks and/or, worse still, to turn with the skid. Our self-preservation instincts tells us to do this, but all it does is make a precarious situation worse. However, when we’re taught, and we practice, not hitting the brakes and not turning into the skid, we make this our default reaction and we avoid disaster. This is the rational process interpreting a stimuli and forming a novel behavior that modifies the interpretation of the instinctual process.

The limitation of the rational process is in its necessity to take time to interpret information and develop a new apparatus. Where instinct and emotion are intimately linked with our biological hardware and psychological firmware, the rational process is dissociated from them in the same immediacy. Instinct and emotion are processes that evolved from a survival-need for fast interpretation and reaction. The rational process requires time, repetition and the right biological structures to be effective. Human beings are remarkably fast learners (even with complex challenges), but the learning that the rational process leads to is slow in comparison to instinct and emotion – which are essentially preloaded firmware in humans.

The rational process deals with the nuts and bolts of what we can understand of our reality. From there it can modify the other processes or it can serve to interpret stimuli on its own.

In the next part of this series I’ll be exploring how these cognitive processes interact and cooperate and conflict with each other. I will also consider the gendered advantages and disadvantages these processes represent to our individual experiences as men and women and the influence they play in intersexual and intersocial dynamics.

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theasdgamer
5 years ago

For dessert I’ll stare at my wife’s ass as she puts a venison roast in the slow cooker.

Pics or shut up. Yummy venison roast!

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

irony again.

I was born here 56 years ago. Nothing about America, or it’s people, are ” threatening ” to me. I understand this place very well.

Better even than you do. You have the Disney-Fake version.

You proving my point is getting boring.

Par asd, par.

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Lol Blax.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Lol asd.

O.B.I.T.
O.B.I.T.
5 years ago

Not much to work with here, but I do really like Fleezer’s “Fuck Spectrum” concept. Is there a fitbit-type device for fuck-by-fuck quantification, or is it more of a satellite radar type readout?

I can see the Fleezer Fuck Spectrum (FFS) taking its rightful place alongside the Richter scale, Fujita Scale and Beyer Speed Figure.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

So, Blaximus, this book the Wisdom of Psychopaths is a great read. Because of your talk about fearlessness and nothing being threatening. As I mentioned, it was originally brought up in Red Pill talk by Rian Stone, (Stone PT) on Rollo’s side bar, in their Red Man Youtube. I’ve had to learn Red Pill. Rather than intuit it. Nothing was natural about it for me, but it has come to be so in me. The book is probably available at the local library. These days library’s are great at borrowing them from other libraries. This following excerpt is basically a… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Larry Wilmore talks with black people who supported Trump…

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/nrpa7t/the-nightly-show-with-larry-wilmore-meet-donald-trump-s-black-supporters

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Sjf Because you are my brother in many ways, let me try to explain a little something. Everyone else can just look away for a second because I’m not looking for rebuttals right now ( looking directly at you asd, my more evil brother ). I’m not a ” Natural “. I used to tell YaReally that all the time, but I just gave up after a while. The way ” Natural ” has been described, as far as I can tell, I don’t fit the description. Everything I know or have done, I’ve had to learn how to do.… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

asd

Lol.

I don’t care about Trump at all, nor do I care about his supporters or Larry Wilmore.

k?

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Essence writes about fifteen black celebrities who supported Trump.

https://www.essence.com/news/black-donald-trump-supporters#1257662

This site made me want to find a site that caters to white people in a non-racist way like essence does for black people…

I’m such an asshole sometimes, lol…

…only sometimes? But I’m a dam funny asshole…

…a young black guy who’s a regular at the country bar I go to likes to call me “nigga”…it irks me even tho it’s meant as a prop

theasdgamer
5 years ago

Blax, I’m just linking shit for fun…it’s not “aimed” at you…this time…

lol, made you jump

looking directly at you asd, my more evil brother

…dam, you discovered my secret identity…from when I was an undercover brother…

theasdgamer
5 years ago

A natural is someone who has learned game all on his own or with the help of male mentors…maybe even got some advice from a Playboy column…he has figured out how to be attractive to women…he has done the hard work…he hasn’t learned it at RSD bootcamps or by reading shit online…he has experimented on girls in order to try to figure them out… …even though Blax was talking to SJF, he was expressing shit that ain’t correct and lurkers need better info… …mainly, young men, get out there and use girls as your guinea pigs and experiment on them… Read more »

theasdgamer
5 years ago
SJF
SJF
5 years ago

Blaximus, My brother in Red Pill Arms. Stop trying to explicate. Just demonstrate like you have always done. That which you do well. You do a fine job in demonstrating. And I have great respect for you just being you. I had some dark hours a couple years and you helped me through those by just being you. The difference between Being a Natural is self evident. And to be definitional: A Natural at Game did it early and offen. You did that. So you were a Natural. A guy like me, I was a natural man early, became betatized.… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Sjf

Right back at you.

Lol, my ” Oprah phase ” was a perfect example of a man doing some monumentally stupid shit and fucking up something that was heretofore unfucked. Nobody’s perfect, regroup and keep it moving, and don’t do that dumb shit again.

Wild Man
Wild Man
5 years ago

SJF – are you insinuating that psychopathy is somehow about “strength, courage, mastery and honor.”? Seems like you may be saying that. If so that be so unbelievably dumb, it’s like – what is with you? Have you actually ever interacted with any psychopaths, (not just in passing, which gives pretty much zero insight, but close-up, over months or years – let’s say live with one)? No you haven’t otherwise you wouldn’t be such an idiot on the subject. Dutton says (about the traits of psychopathy) – “Let’s take a look at those dials for a moment: ruthlessness, charm, focus,… Read more »

The Solitary Silver FoX
The Solitary Silver FoX
5 years ago

Great week last week, gentlemen! Went on a 900km+ 2 day bike ride with my Alpha mates through the mountains and High Country of south-eastern Oz. Amazing country out there, just made for 2 wheels with little other traffic to slow us up and more corners than you could possibly count! Then home on a high, make 2 new music tracks, one i decided would be a good fit for a very talented thesbian (not lesbian!) female friend who upon receiving my gift loves it (and is inspired to create a new project based around it), then get offered the… Read more »

JT McMahon
JT McMahon
5 years ago

Great post on drives & tools. Anyone can take something and make it more complex. But to distill an entire discipline to its salient critical points, making it intelligible – that’s mastery. Has to be a correlation between the rise of feminism and the resurgence of medieval mysticism/emotionalism/magical “thought.” Go to any new-age shop with the crystals, seers, palm and tarot readers — exclusively borderline/histrionic-ish women both sides of the counter. You know the type – frump with just the right amount of daft to be repellant. Which is all fine, cool, whatever, but probably not a substitute for say,… Read more »

Higgs Boson
Higgs Boson
5 years ago

“This is one of the reasons that the various ‘redpills’ are central to the reconstruction of a valid social science

https://www.socialmatter.net/2018/04/16/the-economics-of-need/

IRL
IRL
5 years ago

@Blaximus I’m not a ” Natural “. I used to tell YaReally that all the time, but I just gave up after a while. The way ” Natural ” has been described, as far as I can tell, I don’t fit the description. I don’t know what the description was. Whether it was something about predispositions etc. No idea. But whatever it was, being good/smooth at something means a lot of exposure and practice. Always. Even the genes expression reflects the history and current state of the individual’s adaptation to the environment. “Naturals” have been doing something often and long… Read more »

IRL
IRL
5 years ago

@fleezer
a man could take what he learned in the mano and knock up thousands of ovulating females already in beta ltrs

https://twitter.com/MarcosAH6/status/985926971162071047

that’s if spreading his seed according to the prime directive without investing anything at all in the rearing process were agreeable to him

Which means random BP betas w/o game raising your children. More reasons to keep the society in the FI matrix.

Doesn’t look like your legacy… besides genetic…

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

@ SSFox Re: you bring uncomfortable with interTRM arguement. If you’ve never been in a fight, rhetorical or otherwise, you’ve no spine. Clemenza: “That’s all right. These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one.” Unloading one’s frustrations (wrapped as an informed opinion) at each other is a masculine way of vetting our thoughts for validity and keeps our “eye on the ball”. It’s not personal. We’re aligned more than not, except Wildman, he’s stuck on stupid, won’t disclose anything about himself as… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
5 years ago

Eh – there you go again you stupid cunt – Ehlen Degenerate it is! I like the tit-for-tat game (to some degree) too. But moderation, in all things, is a good prescription, my friend. Maybe you got some growing up to do as well (like SJF).

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

McMahon

Maybe the future is female — but it won’t have plumbing.

T Shirt –

The Future is Female

[Watch the spiders!]

Lost Patrol
Lost Patrol
5 years ago

@SJF and IRL So you learned it early and often. But whatever it was, being good/smooth at something means a lot of exposure and practice. Always. Good “natural” comments, and a chance to trot out some of my usual mixed metaphors. Sometimes the idea gets talked about like it is a mystical state imbued at birth, but a natural can in fact be made and there are men here who have done it and describe it. It’s really not that different than mastery, which is a TRM staple. When we were learning to ride motorcycles we fell over early and… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

@ Lost Patrol

Excellent!

I’ve thought the same about the woodworking shop. I’m most likely to injure myself as a incompetent novice and later mistaking comfort as well trained.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

@ Wildman

Name one not-you person here who takes you seriously.

Wild Man
Wild Man
5 years ago

Eh – not sure. Others would have to say so. Is it a contest? If so what is the contest about? To my mind, if this be about a contest (our differences – you and me here), the contest would be about who here agrees that either psychopathy-proper, or alternatively, the very retarded (to my mind) faux-psychopath-wannabe fantasy-play definition of masculinity, is a good way to go about framing one’s life …. a good method to live by. I think it is not a good method to live by. By way of your comments – it seems you disagree with… Read more »

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

@Wild Man:

Define “psychopathy-proper.” Demonstrate that the definition is indeed “proper.”

“I do note that ‘psychopathy, …. or faux-psychopath-wannabe fantasy-play’, as a good method to live by, does seem to be the consensus view of many of the regular commenters here.”

Then demonstrate this as well.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Wildman,

Are those my only two choices?

Well hell! What will I do? (Picture me furious rubbing my chin.)

Wild Man
Wild Man
5 years ago

“Then demonstrate this as well.” SJF – his many upstream comments on this thread, a continuation of his posting in Field Reports (April 9th @ 6:36 p.m.) theasdgamer – (April 9th @ 5:53 p.m.) in Field Reports j – (April 9th @ 6:19 p.m.) in Field Reports Mersonia: his emotional comment in response to my comment about this topic, in Field Reports, (April 10th @ 2:25 a.m.) Sentient – my engagement with him, further to comments he made at the Heartiste blogspot, as outlined in my comment in Field Reports (April 9th @12:40 p.m.), with several other comments exchanged with… Read more »

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

@Wild Man:

As I can instantly and clearly see what you did there, it is rather unlikely that it will go entirely unnoticed by others.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Makes me wonder why? Really?

Wonder no more, Wunderkind:

You’re psychopathically oblivious to your inability to calibrate.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

“As I can instantly and clearly see what you did there, it is rather unlikely that it will go entirely unnoticed by others.”

Man, I can’t see shit when he comments. My cognitive abilities just go foggy.

anon
anon
5 years ago

“Man, I can’t see shit when he comments. My cognitive abilities just go foggy.”

My appetite “goes foggy” when I see a chunk of raw hamburger rolled across a barbershop floor.

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

:

That’s what he did there – leave out all the bits that would have given his response a lick of meaning.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

a lick of meaning.

“Waiter! I’ll have the word salad.”

Said no one ever…

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

@KFG Thanks. I was starting to worry it was me. Linkin Park’s One Step Closer lyrics were in a loop in my head and I couldn’t figure out who the first person protagonist was, him or me. I cannot take this anymore I’m saying everything I’ve said before All these words they make no sense I find bliss in ignorance Less I hear the less you’ll say But you’ll find that out anyway Just like before Everything you say to me Takes me one step closer to the edge And I’m about to break I need a little room to… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Schizophrenic writing style: Example 1: “And in the following passage, individual words are clearly associated but the discourse as a whole makes little sense: “If you think you are being wise to send me a bill for money I have already paid, I am in nowise going to do so unless I get the whys and wherefores from you to me. But where the fours have been, then fives will be, and other numbers and calculations and accounts to your no-account….” (Maher et al. 1983).” In very severe cases, positive thought disorder manifests as unintelligible speech in which neither the… Read more »

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

Kevin Dutton in The Wisdom of Psychopaths: “I label the skill set the Seven Deadly Wins—seven core principles of psychopathy that, apportioned judiciously and applied with due care and attention, can help us get exactly what we want; can help us respond, rather than react, to the challenges of modern-day living; can transform our outlook from victim to victor, but without turning us into a villain: 1. Ruthlessness 2. Charm 3. Focus 4. Mental toughness 5. Fearlessness 6. Mindfulness 7. Action Without a shadow of a doubt, the power of the skill set lay squarely in its application. Certain situations… Read more »

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

Not civilized enough to take to the mall:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UEuZG37gFdM

status confirmed
status confirmed
5 years ago

@O.B.I.T. has a point. I would buy a Fleezer Fuck Spectrum (FFS).

status confirmed
status confirmed
5 years ago

*Fleezer Fuck Spectrometer

walawala
walawala
5 years ago

@Lost Patrol I know one or two “Naturals” but when i look at their results vs mine which are “learned”…I’m getting younger, hotter, tighter. They’re getting: older, desperate, whatever they can. In one case a “natural” just ploughs ahead without caring about how he looks or what the results are. The women he bangs are MILFs, older, dumpy. I’ve lost respect for him. Another is a quasi celebrity so for him his “Natural” ability is based on his skill-level in a specific area and being good looking–and he knows it. That knowledge is what gives him the confidence. The ability… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Psychopath or Nah?

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i4JxWkSYzU&w=854&h=480%5D

Sun Wukong
Sun Wukong
5 years ago

@walawala Similar from a couple of the naturals I know. They brag to me about how much ass they’re pulling, then show me a 40-50 year old chick who might’ve been a 6 or 7 in her 20s but that time’s long past. I’m like “Yeah I’ve turned a lot of those down since starting to work on Game. In fact I was turning them down before that as well. I started working on Game specifically because I was tired of those, sub 5s, and fatties being my only opportunities.” I’ve also had one of them come to me super… Read more »

Lost Patrol
Lost Patrol
5 years ago

@Wala I get what you’re saying. You are a product of study and practice. You learned what to do. What I’m thinking is that over time you became smoother and things came more “naturally” to you. In the beginning you probably had to actively think your way through some interactions from a red pill perspective, made some mistakes, made some adjustments, but now do most of those things almost intuitively. To the outside observer, particularly if he does not do well with women, you probably appear to be a natural, and in fact you have come to do a lot… Read more »

If-I-Fell
If-I-Fell
5 years ago

Two Black Men Arrested for Acting Entitled At Starbucks. Here is another example of African American men feeling that they are above the law. A major issue in the black community is the lack of respecting authority. This situation would have been a non-issue if these two black men would have just simply followed Starbucks protocol like everyone else. Also, If white people were not so afraid of being deemed racist or even feel a high level of white guilt, this video would have never been recorded. Starbucks being the cowardice organization they are, apologized for no reason. What a… Read more »

boulderhead
5 years ago

I have been called a natural at many things,also been called a whorehouse raised little fucker by a rather large man whose wife had taken a shine to me.

What it boiled down to was listening to my older sisters and paying attention to the women in the kitchen as a lad. I came to understand women,at the same time running wild with the platinum rule was an attraction in itself as well as a motivator.

https://youtu.be/9Y7zq1gGEAU

Wild Man
Wild Man
5 years ago

Blax – The way I read it, about Trump – seems pretty clear he got some strong narcissistic tendencies, but …. as far as I can tell, the man has got some principles, and psychos are free of those, except one – how other people are useful to them personally, to further their own selfish interests (now everybody is like this to some degree, but with the psychos – nothing else is going on to mitigate for that). Trump’s campaign platform actually made sense – it all hung together – wasn’t so much a mash-up of conflicting promises like pretty… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

If I tell

… Fuck authority and cash the check.😁😁😁

You don’t know the whole story , judging by your half cocked description. Get the details.

Fuckers that think like you and go off like the most ardent feminist are part of the problem.

Entitled indeed.

G’night.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

And if , so me a favor, stop pontificating about ” the black community “. You don’t know wtf you’re talking about. 2 men ( you remember ken, right ) sitting in Starbucks ( 2 real estate agents at that ) waiting for this friend so they can order together. Ask to use bathroom, denied because they haven’t bought anything. So they sit back down.And continue to wait for said friend. No yelling. No screaming. Police are called. Still, no disruptive behavior at all. Police ARREST the 2 men. As they are led out by cops, friend shows up and… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

…. Hardly a day goes by….

For half a century of my life….

Jesus.

walawala
walawala
5 years ago

@Lost and Sun In one case the natural often pays for his top notch girls. In other cases it’s MILFs and girls who I would not regard as my target. In the other case the guy is a quasi celebrity but he does know how to charm. When I dissect his game it’s overwhelm and disarm. He throws everything he has at these girls and at times Is alpha and there times he is so beta and insecure it’s cringe worthy… he also doesn’t calibrate so he goes after girls who are not appropriate because they are his hosts for… Read more »

The Solitary Silver FoX
The Solitary Silver FoX
5 years ago

I’ve had a pretty good run as a natural for the last 25 odd years. Looking back i did best when just teasing the girls i liked, laying the kino on them and going from there. I really didn’t think about it too much. When we start to over analyse our interactions with women we can end up tripping ourselves up. In my experience, one needs to be genuinely quietly confident in themselves, cheeky and bold with the objects of one’s desire. To a natural you know pretty quickly if you’ll fuck her which is what happened to me once… Read more »

mersonia
5 years ago

Scrolling through this bullshit and nothings useful………………………….

mersonia
5 years ago

so many opinions and back in the days……………….

If-I-Fell
If-I-Fell
5 years ago

@ Blaximus

LOL – Had to do it. After you bashed Scrib for being reactionary to your comments. There you go all Whoppi Goldberg…

@ All

Here’s the joke. Full cut and paste with not a word changed from a youtube video published by Brandon Tatum, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoUv-qSi9yk (He claims to be a black man–but what do I know.)

G’morning and smile. You’re on candid camera.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Blaximus,

How’d you come about to your online handle?

anon
anon
5 years ago

“For some strange reason they always tended to use my sons bathroom and thinking about it all of them left at least one pair or toothbrush of hair clip or something, often hidden out of the way.

Mate guarding / territorial I reckon.”

Or just fucking gross. They left their used underwear and toothbrushes in your son’s bathroom? Seriously What. The. Fuck.

The Solitary Silver FoX
The Solitary Silver FoX
5 years ago

Welcome back, palma. Yes, they do deliberately leave knickers etc laying around. I also think it’s a territorial mate-guarding thing. It’s not the first time this has happened, and won’t be the last. I find it very amusing. Just gotta love those girls. Lacey alpha trophies… Yes, i’m also finding the mudslinging counter-productive and rather boring. I just don’t have the energy or desire to argue hard with anyone these days, and usually find it easy to avoid such situations. Now some here might think i’m a bit of a pussy with this philosophy, but i just don’t feel i… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

“Now some here might think i’m a bit of a pussy with this philosophy, but i just don’t feel i have anything to prove to anyone anymore but myself. ”

What do you have to prove to yourself, yet?

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Anon. Fox

“The ex wife confronted me with a pair once when she collected my son and used the toilet.. lol”

Anon this is why they do it.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Clearly Starbucks is racist…

https://www.fastcompany.com/3046890/the-inside-story-of-starbuckss-race-together-campaign-no-foam

Starbucks employees are notorious alt whities… Just look at ’em.

Closing 8,000 stores for sensitivity training is not enough. Reparations are required. 40 lattes and a bagel.

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

I don’t find the mudslinging quite as counter-productive as it might seem. And if it is boring it’s just part of the ebb and flow of discussion and filling a void. The reason that I don’t find it is counter-productive is that what is going on here is part and parcel of tribal Groupthink. A concept described by Irving Janis, a research psychologist, and generally regarded as potentially bad. (Group-think is what is going on in the back and forth that Blaximus vs. ASD re: race issues. And what I’m debating with WildMan, my side being pro-redpill, him fighting redpill… Read more »

walawala
walawala
5 years ago

@ Sentient …. was tidying up my apartment recently and found a halter top wedged between the cushions…no clue who’s it was or how long it had been there…

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Eh

Handle derived from my fave movie of 2000. It’s a personalization of Russel crowes character. My sisters started calling me ” Blaximus ” and I thought it kinda catchy so since 2000 it’s been my online alter ego.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Sjf There might be a component of groupthink at play. I also think there is a semi battle of narratives at work as well. Last month, the ” group ” of men I work with mentoring youth, had to rent out a larger facility because the number of young men and a few women that attend has been almost dumpster month. What’s being offered that resonates is a narrative that counters the more false one. Young kids know there’s something wrong, but they don’t understand exactly what’s driving it, so they can’t counter it effectively. At the last gathering, we… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Fuck.

Above, not ” dumpster , ” but ” doubled , “.

That’s IT!!!! I’m removing this goddamn spellchecker today.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Wala anon fox

was tidying up my apartment recently and found a halter top wedged between the cushions…

Other forms of marking territory – lipstick, perfume, hair…

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

@ Blaximus, O.k. This isn’t an attack, more at a thought. It’s well, confusing, for men to respect you for one authentic, earned, learned part of your life then they’re left wondering why you’re attached and defend a something which you had no choice, IMHO, is irrelevant. Your sisters coined a name for you based on race too. I’d like to think of you beyond race but you name places it front and center. That sensitizes me to your race and I ask myself then, should I, too, be sensitive to your race, shall I, too, evaluate you based on… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

Eh Duly noted. I can’t speak for others in different generations,nor different locales, but as I alluded to earlier, my ” race ” has been front and center, directly or indirectly, a majority of my 56 years. So, so I runaway and disavow ( doesn’t work )? Or do I sack up? The problem in America is based on denial of there being a problem wrt to attitudes and actions that are manifest, and the anger and misunderstanding that flows from that on all sides. Not gonna change during my life. Lots of smart people can’t Jonathon these things, so… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Oh hats off to Blax’s description of dangerous characters, bars. I was at an open air drinking venue. Lively, people dining too. Three guys show up position themselves backs on wall, staring ahead, brooding like. Didn’t buy drinks, weren’t talking, nor walking, socializing. I’m not sure if they were looking for attention but they got it. I picked up on their intentions and in 5″ a bouncer was taking to them too. Brought one of the three to the bar, asked them where they were from, and upbeat, essentially told him buy drinks or leave, he bought drinks but wasn’t… Read more »

SJF
SJF
5 years ago

Blax

As I’m sitting in a ladder stand at my farm for better cell reception I’ll be brief.

I’m pre-emptively advocating for tribal red pill group think of the TRM brand of Rollo against specifically the drivel of Wildman.

Thumbs up to you for helping youg men in your Venn Diagram tribe. I hate when my son gets charged with felonies too.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

This “brotherhood of man” is just another card in the Equalist deck. It’s never worked before, isn’t now and won’t in the future. To pursue this thinking puts you firmly in their grasp. Culture is one thing, tribalism another and race always race at the end of the day.

Blax, you reinforce your black identitarianism each time you post. And that in itself is not a criticism.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

It’s a response. I’d rather not find it necessary actually.

JT McMahon
JT McMahon
5 years ago

😁

Know wut?

Here we have been, in this very series of give’n’takes, been (through living it) demonstrating the real-world application of what Rollo just wrote about.

Dudes that’s like — wayyyy awesome!

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

change your handle, be the change you want to see in the world.

Or just own it outright. No shame in that.

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

I don’t think I’ve ever experienced shame.😀 No reason to.

I’ll stick with my handle, as I like it and it’s suited me for 18 years now.

rugby11
rugby11
5 years ago

Turned 30 at 3am this morning Meet this girl yesterday at a music venue for heroin awareness and the huge death toll in today’s culture and climate of escapism She had two kids and her husband was in the marines… Always tend to approach girls / women who have story’s written on their body’s. Not sure if i just enjoy the approach and complete immersion into reality. But i was great reaching out and holding her hand having her say “Hi am Amber”. I also heard music in a wooding music hall so the audible’s where incredible. Not sure i… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Brotherhood of man…well if you’re taking serve the common good…nah.

TRM works as it reinforces truths irrespective race, creed…that’s a brotherhood. Unplug those willing, others, no.

At least tribe has some philosophical underpinnings. Parents, siblings not so much nowadays. I’m not Pollyanna, just practical. I need all the friends I can get.

Chump No More
Chump No More
5 years ago

@Wildman I don’t want you to shut up, I want you to go away and stop clogging the commentary with your incessant bullshit. It’s not that I’m afraid of what you’re saying… I’m tired and bored with it. It adds zero value to the mission here. As EhIntellect stated, nobody here takes you seriously. At first, folks here ‘suspended disbelief’ and engaged with you because it’s Rollo’s mission to help fellow seekers of truth and we’re just doing our best to carry it forward. Fortunately, it didn’t take long to figure you out. You’re not seeking, you’re selling the same… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

@ Blax

“So, so I runaway and disavow ( doesn’t work )? Or do I sack up?”

Those are choices but extremes and you’re not an extremist as much as I can tell.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

I’m removing this goddamn spellchecker today. But it’s part of the smartitude of your smart device. Removing it will dumb that thing down, forcing you to use your brain instead. That’s got to be a step backwards technologically, because all the cool kidz have as many apps as a device can run. Eye no you care about that so much. Speelczech is overrated on anything that is less than one page anyway, so for comments & texts & even email it’s just computational overhead. Sure, I use it on multi-page documents where accuracy matters but mine own dictionary is what… Read more »

rugby11
rugby11
5 years ago

Instinct-emotion-and-reason
Numbers and termination of anything offensive
https://dailym.ai/2EYug6P

kfg
kfg
5 years ago

“. . . forcing you to use your brain instead.”

Noooooooo! Anything but that. Or Detroit.

” . . . all the cool kidz have as many apps as a device can run.”

Primus: I use something called “cognition.”
Secunda: Is that on the Google Play store?

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ Sentient ” change your handle, be the change you want to see in the world.” Bruh… This actually made me think a little. just the one sentence above. Thanks. I’m not the ” change the world ” guy. That’s why I resonate with the red pill. I’m the ” see the world exactly for what it is ” guy. I’m the ” know history, kill lies ” guy. I’m the ” unplug from the matrix, in all of it’s forms ” guy. that Matrix… it’s comfy and safe feeling, but at what cost and sense of reality? [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gL0xQHI0wo&w=854&h=480%5D… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
5 years ago

@ AR

Lol. But this new version of spellchecker is making me sound more retarded than usual. I mean, jesus – I typed in ” doubled ” and spellfucker changed it to ” dumpster “. Wtf???

I’d rather use my brain and eyeballs.

Sentient
Sentient
5 years ago

Blax

I’m the ” see the world exactly for what it is ” guy.

Me too! Hence my comments.

Wild Man
Wild Man
5 years ago

Chump No More – your comment – “You’re not seeking, you’re selling the same failed egalitarian equalist paradigm crap that chewed up and spit out men who come here looking for insight”. Yes, I am seeking, but yes at the same time, I do have a particular redpill point of view which nevertheless doesn’t marry-up with the consensus among the commenters here. So you could say I am selling a different redpill point of view. All the better to move forward – by way of comparing the differences in the points of view to see what is what. I broke… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

But this new version of spellchecker is making me sound more retarded than usual. I mean, jesus – I typed in ” doubled ” and spellfucker changed it to ” dumpster “. Wtf??? It’s because The Man wants you to look that way. Rigged spellchecker, on orders from the New World Odor and coded by Russian hackerz for devices in the Grater NY Area. Part of the bigger plan Gotta be a conspiracy, because the alternative where phone / tablet apps are written by low-bid untrained seal programmers with minimal clues? Nah, is just too complicated. Occam’s machete, gnonem I’m… Read more »

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

Wildman is schizophrenic. Literally.

He’s battling voices in his head and paranoia.

Responding to him logically is fruitless.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

JT
Here we have been, in this very series of give’n’takes, been (through living it) demonstrating the real-world application of what Rollo just wrote about.

It really is a case of acta and verba, isn’t it?

stimulus. response.

Wild Man
Wild Man
5 years ago

See – there it is again. Eh saying my point of view is BS, without engaging and indicating why he thinks it is BS, and the concluding that I should be dismissed as one form of an another of ‘pain in the ass’. Like I said that be weak. Eh – you in particular are weak. Eh – I will ask again, so it doesn’t escape you yet again that what you are doing is very weak, – engage somewhere here: “On the ‘psycho-liking’ here. Why? Because ‘the psycho schtick’ seems to make girl’s panties wet? You all sure you… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
5 years ago

Wild Person
egalitarian => merit-system – like I spelled out upstream.

In your opinion, should a tranny be allowed to run a marathon as a woman?
Use all the words you need.

Yollo Comanche
Yollo Comanche
5 years ago

@Wild Man “Egalitarian – yes – if you go back to the original meaning of it: egalitarian => merit-system – like I spelled out upstream. Why don’t you think that has any value? – no one ever says why they think it has no value.” The old order social contract has been torn apart. Read the article about the Old books, it’s in the search bar. It has no value because it’s an appeal to male reason that immediately makes a given man subject to an arbitrary set of rules of engagement that will ultimately be determined by a woman… Read more »

Wild Man
Wild Man
5 years ago

AR – If I recall I already played this game with you (if I recall it was about who is and who is not a ‘cunt’). I did enjoy that game. But, be it noted, you are playing a game. So – what the heck – I will play all long, again.

“In your opinion, should a tranny be allowed to run a marathon as a woman?”

Dickless/ball-less tranny or dicked/balled tranny (and is there any difference)?

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
5 years ago

that’s the great lament of the Beta.

Precisely.

EhIntellect
EhIntellect
5 years ago

@all

He’s battling voices in his head and paranoia and…delusions of grandeur:

“People with a delusion of grandeur often have the conviction of having some great but unrecognized talent or insight. They may also believe they have made some important discovery that others don’t understand or appreciate.”

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