I’m going to make a confession here; until a week ago I had no idea who Aziz Ansari was. I get he was some low limit comedian, and in today’s social environment that means he lectures an audience about social justice issues for an hour while trying to insert some humor into his act. I’ve pretty much given up on most comedians these days, and I’m a guy who used to love standup. However, my unfamiliarity with Aziz was actually a benefit in assessing his recent pillory in the mainstream. Had I known about him before all this, and his comedy activism, I likely would’ve just dismissed his case as the next guy to be put into the MeToo deadpool of celebrity men – and I’m being generous about the “celebrity” part.
I had actually resigned myself to blowing off his whole story until I started digging into the particulars of the ‘date’ he had with the anonymous “Grace”. On first pass this whole incident is easy to dismiss even for Red Pill aware men with better things to do than bother themselves with another Hollywood chump to go down to the open power grab that MeToo and TimesUp have become. There is, however, a lot to unpack in the whole thing though. If you want the whole story you can read about it here on Babe.net, the blog for “Girls who don’t give a fuck”, which is interesting because apparently they give a lot of fucks according to the story.
Just to break down some of the particulars here:
- She (Grace) approaches Aziz in the beginning. Flirts with him and then goes back to her date she was with that evening. They would catch each other glancing at the other durning the night (IOIs). They ‘ran into each other’ later and he number closes.
- Aziz Beta texts her almost immediately and tries to text Game/flirt with her before he asks her out
- Before meeting Ansari, she tells friends and coworkers about the date and consulted her go-to group chat about what she should wear to fit the “cocktail chic” dress-code he gave her. She settled on “a tank-top dress and jeans.” She showed me a picture, it was a good outfit.
- After the white wine she didn’t like, they end up back at his place. She complimented his marble countertops. Ansari turned the compliment into an invitation. “He said something along the lines of, ‘How about you hop up and take a seat?’” Within moments, he was kissing her. “In a second, his hand was on my breast.” Then he was undressing her, then he undressed himself.
- Ansari tells her he was going to get a condom within minutes of their first kiss, Grace voiced her hesitation explicitly. “I said something like, ‘Whoa, let’s relax for a sec, let’s chill.’” She says he then resumed kissing her, briefly performed oral sex on her, and asked her to do the same thing to him. She did, but not for long. “It was really quick. Everything was pretty much touched and done within ten minutes of hooking up, except for actual sex.”
- Ansari repeatedly attempts ‘The Claw’. on her “The move he kept doing was taking his two fingers in a V-shape and putting them in my mouth, in my throat to wet his fingers, because the moment he’d stick his fingers in my throat he’d go straight for my vagina and try to finger me.” “It was 30 minutes of me getting up and moving and him following and sticking his fingers down my throat again. It was really repetitive. It felt like a fucking game.”
- Ansari physically pulled her hand towards his penis multiple times throughout the night, from the time he first kissed her on the countertop onward. “He probably moved my hand to his dick five to seven times,” she said. “He really kept doing it after I moved it away.”
- Ansari presses her for sex. He asks repeatedly, “Where do you want me to fuck you?” while she was on the countertop. She says she didn’t want to fuck him at all. He keeps asking, so she says, ‘Next time.’ Aziz says, ‘Oh, you mean second date?’ and she says, ‘Oh, yeah, sure,’ and he goes, ‘Well, if I poured you another glass of wine now, would it count as our second date?’
- She later says she doesn’t want it to seem forced and this wakes Ansari up from his sexual stupor. “He said, ‘Oh, of course, it’s only fun if we’re both having fun. Let’s just chill over here on the couch.’ Ansari instructed her to turn around. “He sat back and pointed to his penis and motioned for me to go down on him. And I did. I think I just felt really pressured. It was literally the most unexpected thing I thought would happen at that moment because I told him I was uncomfortable.”
- Halfway into the encounter, he led her from the couch to a different part of his apartment. He said he had to show her something. Then he brought her to a large mirror, bent her over and asked her again, “Where do you want me to fuck you? Do you want me to fuck you right here?” He rammed his penis against her ass while he said it, pantomiming intercourse.
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They got dressed, sat side by side on the couch they’d already “chilled” on, and he turned on an episode of Seinfeld. While the TV played in the background, he kissed her again, stuck his fingers down her throat again, and moved to undo her pants. She turned away. “I remember saying, ‘You guys are all the same, you guys are all the fucking same.’” Ansari asked her what she meant. When she turned to answer, she says he met her with “gross, forceful kisses.” After that last kiss, Grace stood up from the couch, moved back to the kitchen island where she left her phone, and said she would call herself a car. He hugged her and kissed her goodbye, another “aggressive” kiss. When she pulled away, Ansari finally relented and insisted he’d call her the car.
All of this detail is important to consider because Ansari’s actions here are classic Beta Game desperation tactics. It is literally one Beta move after another. Many of the reviewers of this incident like to point out that it was really a misunderstood date gone wrong, or else they use it as proof-positive of a sexual assault, but I’m going to argue something different here – Ansari is simply a Beta chump with very little Game savvy who, if he’d had even a hint of Game awareness could’ve had a good sexual experience both for himself and her.
As I’ve mentioned before, I’m not a proponent of men attempting to push past last minute resistance. For as much as “enthusiastic consent” will be used as a tool of fear to dissuade Beta men from even attempting to approach, I can’t say that I wouldn’t want a woman to have a genuine desire to fuck me in any sexual episode. I can remember in my ‘rock star 20s’ doing exactly this. If a woman wasn’t into having sex with me or she had some reservations or some hoops she expected me to jump through in order to get her to “come around” to fucking me I would simply excuse myself from the situation. I was at a point in my life where I had many other (proven) options, and if a new prospect wasn’t an absolutely ‘enthusiastic’ “Hell Yes!” girl I had at least six other women who were eager to come over and fuck me. This was just a subconscious awareness I took for granted at the time, but it was an attitude that stemmed from abundance.
That was essentially my Game back then. It was the natural reflex of an Alpha man and women responded to it. The behaviors and attitudes I exhibited just flowed from my unrehearsed subconscious. It was who I was. Dread is much more effective for a man when a woman sees that he’s oblivious to his causing dread.
Most men never really experience this kind of sexual abundance and as such it colors their outlook and how they expect sex to work for them. One big problem inherent to men’s Blue Pill conditioning is the idea that sex must be negotiated for a woman to feel comfortable enough to fuck a guy, but more importantly in this era, to avoid any misunderstandings that would lead to his getting a sexual misconduct allegation. The Blue Pill teaches men to respect women by default, for no other reason than she has a vagina, but also that open communication, full disclosure and negotiation are necessary elements of sex. We can see this played out in the ludicrous expectation that every sex action a man involves himself in requires vocal enthusiastic consent. This is the acculturation; men are expected to negotiate every sexual detail of a sexual experience.
Needless to say this is patently ridiculous, but it’s also the surest way to kill the actual enthusiasm a woman might actually have for a guy. One thing that will separate Alpha men from Betas in the future will be that man’s honed capacity to remove himself from any sexual situation that is negotiated. Women want to play the Game, they don’t want the Game explained to them. They want a man who Just Gets It and the men who don’t get it will be the ones whose dutiful Blue Pill conditioning prompts them to start any and every approach at intimacy by negotiating the terms for a woman’s desire.
You cannot negotiate genuine desire, but this negotiation is exactly what modern feminism simultaneously fosters and struggles against. The idea of ‘enthusiastic consent’ is really a want on the part of women to have the sex they genuinely have a desire to experience with a man. This is all women want to write about now and the Ansari incident is a textbook example of the kind of negotiated sex women don’t want to have, but sometimes go through with for transactional reasons. Remember, sex with Alpha men is validational for women – lackluster ‘meh’ sex with Beta men is transactional sex. If you only read what women are writing about sex today you’d think that transactional sex is all they’ve ever been having – and sexist men see women as ‘soft’ prostitutes. Now it’s suddenly some revolutionary act for women to have the sex Alpha sex enjoyment they’ve always “deserved” but have been repressed by transactional sex with Betas.
That said, I can’t disagree entirely with the want for an enthusiastic sex partner who genuinely wants to fuck me 12 ways to Tuesday. And this is women’s rationale today, “Don’t you want to fuck a woman who really wants to fuck you?” It’s hard to argue against the “Hell Yes” girl, until you realize that the sex they are describing is only reserved for the guy they really want to bang and mistakenly believe their overinflated self-value warrants.
Now, I’ve read the debate from PUAs who make the point that it is entirely possible to make a ‘No’ girl into a ‘Hell Yes’ girl. I’ve seen the infield videos so I’ll spare you the linking. My question then is, after deftly applying Game and calibrating all the minutiae to do so, how does this compare to a woman who has a genuine desire for you from the start? I think one huge hurdle for guys unplugging from their Blue Pill conditioning have to face is the presupposition that sex is only the result of a process of negotiation. That negotiation is what the Blue Pill teaches boys and men from a very early age.
Aziz! Light!
The Ansari incident has a lot of Red Pill lessons to teach. First and foremost is the fact that Ansari is a consumate Beta. Looking at the guy he resembles any number of Indian computer programmers frustrated by a want for the secret formula to make a gorgeous American blonde with big tits fall in love with him. Don’t get me wrong, I counsel these men personally, but he fits that schema. Next, Ansari is a vocal and outspoken White Knight for feminism and regularly proves his male self-loathing as part of his standup act. I mean, the guy wears a Time’s Up pin. But like most male feminists, he gets hung by his own Beta Game bullshit – this is the fate of all male feminists.
Lastly, Ansari is a Beta who made good. I’ve talked about the Blue Pill White Knights and self-righteous AFCs in many a post, but I’m not sure I’ve emphasized how dangerous this mindset can be for a Beta who has a combination of affluence, celebrity and social proof. There comes a self-validation in that Blue Pill mindset when women want to be associated with him. He develops a belief that it’s his Blue Pill conditioning, and his adherence to it, that is the reason for his relative success with women. This insulates these guys from ever disconnecting from that conditioning, but it also lessens an incentive to see women in any other perspective. The result of this is exactly what Ansari experienced in this incident. He was too comfortable in presuming his pro-woman, female identifying, Beta Game would make his sexual expression ‘Okay’ with any woman who gave him positive sexual interest.
Another big indicator of this, and really much of Beta Game, was his repeated pawing of Grace and repeated sexual expressions with her. It wasn’t working as he believed it should, so what was his solution? Continue with the negotiation and hope for a positive sign of reinforcement from her. Every act that Ansari attempted with Grace was a form of negotiation. I can’t get sex? How about a blow job? No? Okay how about if I go down on you? She feels forced? Woah, default to female identification persona. Presume the sale, “How do you want me to fuck you?”
This is all one big negotiation – there is no genuine desire and no enthusiasm of the part of Grace – but since Ansari has never had the incentive to learn Game he keep going back to what he thinks should work on her.
To wrap all of this up, I should mention that the reason this whole affair went viral is should really be no surprise. It’s one more example of everything MeToo has been harping on for almost 5 months now, yes, but it’s also an illustration of exactly this new sentiment of the “grey area” sex I brought to light in Dangerous Times – Part 2. It’s sex women have out of courtesy (Aziz got a courtesy hummer) or convenience or just as something to do. It is exactly the obligated sex I’ve been talking about since The Desire Dynamic. This incident is exactly the story this ‘grey sex’ sentiment had needed, but in the larger picture it highlights the difference between transactional sex and validational sex.
As Open Hypergamy becomes yet more normalized it’s now time that the Feminine Imperative acknowledges the type of sex women desire and enjoy, and the type of sex they feel obligated to perform as part of a negotiation or transaction. And naturally the need to define what women’s Hypergamy dictates becomes a new form of shame for men. Evil Patriarchal men are to blame for women having to openly acknowledge that they only want to fuck Alpha men with any real enthusiasm. Men are to blame for validational and transactional sex, and now absolved, women can take the next steps in consolidating on Hypergamy.
No, there’s no current legislation that makes ‘unenthusiasitc sex’ a sex crime (yet), but remember that the sexual arms race is always fought in the court of public opinion before anything is written in ink.
asdgamer
Zipper, You’re not tall enough for this ride.
All the information is right there….
Lol.
LMAO
“I don’t think the mindless mob even realizes how they’re destroying society.”
For a not insignificant portion of the mindless mob, that is their goal, although they may not realize the real ramifications of that.
J, I like you man.
Blax
“the concentration on getting the super fast lay. Men learn zero by doing ”
Let’s not be hasty Blax. Learning solid ONS game is the best way to learn to calibrate, from all points.
Sentient
The key word being solid.
Sometimes ( and I love driving fast.) speed kills.
Blaximus
Aziz should have known better and been more self aware, sure, but the snack hoe also should’ve communicated that she wasn’t into the whole gagging on the fingers thing, and she definitely should’ve kept his dick out of her mouth. What kind of silly assed game are chicks playing where a blowjob is no big deal? WTF??? I mean, damn.
Welcome to the 21st century. It’s not the world you grew up in.
Blax
“So, do y’all believe that pua could have saved him from himself? ”
From bumbling to the point of regret and malice? Yes.
But as a D list celebrity his avenue to pursue and learn is hampered.
Sinatra is to have said there were two kinds of women, those that wanted to tell their friends they slept with him and those that wanted to tell their friends they turned him down.
Aziz the chump managed to find both with one girl.
Speed without understanding, for sure.
What kind of silly assed game are chicks playing where a blowjob is no big deal?
Desperation.
Blax
“Again, most guys will never pull any of this off, ”
Agree. Claims should be carefully vetted. In Blackdragon’s case, his name is Blackdragon and you are nobody. That’s his name… (GGR homage)
Most guys are not Spade, or Blackdragon.
But for lurkers… If Aziz followed Mystery’s method A to C to S… He’d be fine.
He’d have to be fine… That’s how it works. And it works consistently. It has to or no sex… That last part is the part guys struggle with.
Sentient
” Most guys are not Spade, or Blackdragon. ”
Yup. That’s what I’m sayin’.
Skills are honed and perfected by doing the hard work. Tips can be helpful, but not everybody will be capable regardless of how hard they work at a thing, or even if they had an entire library full of books on a subject.
@blax “I saw how Mystery ended up. I see Todd is giving it a go” They’re strictly puas. They don’t care about red pill shit. And we can all see that Todd is Purple pill. “the vast majority of men can’t pull this off – mainly because they might assume that having pua styled skill is enough to take them over the longer haul, with multiple women.” From the intro of BD’s book: “many men who get good at having sex with lots of women are usually dreadful at relationship management. The dating industry and PUA (pickup artist) community is… Read more »
Blax
On going fast
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny_kh_FMAEU
Reading ain’t gonna cut it. Important but not enough.
Blaximus
What kind of silly assed game are chicks playing where a blowjob is no big deal? WTF??? I mean, damn.
That reminds me, Barbara Cope aka “The Butter Queen” died in a house fire in Dallas earlier this month. She was popular with Traffic, the Stones and other bands. I’m sure a BJ was no big deal to her or the girls that rolled / traveled with her. So maybe it’s not quite so new.
But…3rd state Sex Pozzy feminism has led to some strange cognative dissonance, just as we see in Aziz’s case.
J
I don’t know who BD is talking to.
“and I love driving fast”
right there with you
Sentient
Lol. That vid makes me chub up.
“It’s not the world you grew up in.”
I remember
The dark woods, masking slopes of sombre hills;
The grey clouds’ leaden everlasting arch;
The dusky streams that flowed without a sound,
And the lone winds that whispered down the passes.
It was so long ago and far away
I have forgot the very name men called me.
The axe and flint-tipped spear are like a dream,
And hunts and wars are shadows.
Love the placard…
“Never Start Something You Can’t Stop Ansari”
AR Young chicks I’ve known over the past 10-15 years have slowly come to see a BJ as kind of a part of heavy making out. It’s not ” sex ” in their eyes, but it’s the last stop before P in V, and it’s a tactic to stop hurt feelz. There were always a couple of girls around who had no qualms about giving BJ’s, but it had to be on the down low, when I was growing up. One of my buds ran his Trans Am into a tree in a park, getting blown while driving. Jesus, talk… Read more »
I think BJs became normalized after Deepthroat. Certainly very common in the 80s. Especially with Catholic girls.
Cue Zappa…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YMdhWRO4-dQ
She had a tongue like a cow… What a great line.
Blackdragon places himself amongst 5% of all men… The Alpha Male 2.0 That leaves us with the final type of man, the Alpha Male 2.0, which comprises the remaining 5% of men. The Alpha 2.0 is exactly the same as the Alpha 1.0 with two significant differences. The operating goal of the Alpha 2.0 is freedom and long term, consistent happiness. He has structured his life so that every morning he wakes up and can do whatever the hell he wants, the way he wants, any time he wants, without having to check in with anyone. He is free from… Read more »
“Outside of this blog, I’m a successful business consultant, writer, and professional speaker, focusing on the areas of business success and time management. I live in the beautiful Pacific Northwest, USA. I’m the proud father of two children and travel the world often.
My business and time management blog is called Sublime Your Time. I also have a personal blog where I discuss things like book reviews, movie reviews, current events, economics, politics, and other guy stuff.”
DPA guy… Hewing to the Platinum Rule.
Men learn zero by doing this, and will eventually trip up on their own dicks, or grow tired and disillusioned with all the ” pussay “… lol, childish shit, and then make attempts to ” settle down “, maybe in a poly relationship, and wind up getting assfucked by women. >/i> Blax, I can’t help but wonder if this is an age thing. We, yes, you and I, are in our 50s and have been there and done all that. There are a lot of young guys revved up and ready to go go go and thirsty. Its different when you’ve… Read more »
“It’s not the world you grew up in.” I remember The dark woods, masking slopes of sombre hills; The grey clouds’ leaden everlasting arch; The dusky streams that flowed without a sound, And the lone winds that whispered down the passes. It was so long ago and far away I have forgot the very name men called me. The axe and flint-tipped spear are like a dream, And hunts and wars are shadows. I came to realize the world was actually making lots of noise. I just never interpreted it before, except for the last ten years manipulating nature to… Read more »
“The operating goal of the Alpha 2.0 is freedom and long term, consistent happiness. ”
Hey, that’s MGTOW 2.0
“He has structured his life so that every morning he wakes up and can do whatever the hell he wants, the way he wants, any time he wants, without having to check in with anyone. He is free from the agenda of a girlfriend, wife, boss, or society.”
Yep, that’s it.
“Women are seriously despairing to pull this type of validation bullshit. It’s a pathetic cry for help as they futilely battle a monster of their own making.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrO4YZeyl0I “The sense of smell is not directly connected to the verbal part of the brain. So you have to be very quiet (no words – inner or vocalized) to notice. But your brain knows.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wTnBC7doPk “Skills are honed and perfected by doing the hard work. Tips can be helpful, but not everybody will be capable regardless of how hard they work at a thing, or even if they had an entire library… Read more »
@SJF:
The sound of desperately trying to get laid is the overtone. The undertone is desperately trying to rip each other’s guts out.
Blaximus Young chicks I’ve known over the past 10-15 years have slowly come to see a BJ as kind of a part of heavy making out. It’s not ” sex ” in their eyes, but it’s the last stop before P in V, and it’s a tactic to stop hurt feelz. 20 years ago there was this political event that centered on what the meaning of the word “Is” is; “Ah did not have sex with that woman!” was part of it. About that time I saw a series of on the street interviews with mid schoolers; “Is oral sex… Read more »
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Goin’ ta temple used to be a lot more fun.
On the third hand, scroll back up to “Baby, don’t you want a man like me?!” by Zappa that I posted a couple of days back and pay attention the last 3 or 5 lines starting with
“He just got in his car, but the battery’s dead”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htfhT3u2E0I
kfg
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVg4w2tFcQK/?taken-by=hr_giger_official
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWPzCB7loi0/?taken-by=hr_giger_official
@Rollo Great analysis. It would be useful to discuss other flawed men who learned superficial routines to meet women, but are incompetent at privately seducing them. Prominent PUA’s with anger and escalation “issues” include Julien Blanc https://tindersfinestbachelors.tumblr.com/post/101828535893/his-mother-must-be-proud, Jeffy “JLAIX” Allen https://jezebel.com/5981578/angry-texts-from-the-rape-van-pick-up-artist, and Paul Janka http://gawker.com/349748/just-a-man-with-a-compulsion-kelly-kreths-date-with-paul-janka-just-sad, https://jezebel.com/335827/paul-janka-did-not-date-rape-me-last-night. The darned thing is that in the right environment, these guys are fearless, unflappable, and charming. They are able to meet, date, and bring women home. But when their routines don’t work, they become hostile, aggressive, creepy, or butthurt. Aziz used celebrity instead of routines to bring Grace home. So while Aziz was terribly… Read more »
Ego crushed
@KFG “The undertone is desperately trying to rip each other’s guts out.” And here we have In-group malice and out-group altruism. Here we have METOO and TimesUp. Hell, fucking Yes! When I look back at it I can’t believe how I picked up on that almost instantaneously. It was quite remarkable how I got up the learning curve. (But I’m quite good at doing that–getting up learning curves. I was out of my element, but performed greatly.) There was the rural wildlife, but there was also the rural people (who where desperate to rip each other’s guts out). Really. No… Read more »
j January 25, 2018 at 5:44 pm Since they promised something they can’t deliver (longterm sexual monogamy) when these guys cheat (and they always do, eventually) they usually get caught, causing even more problems. I fixed that with the LTR at the beginning. I never promised monogamy. What i did promise is that she would know about any other woman as soon as I could tell (in more detail than she would like) her and she could compete if she wanted to. She actually prides herself on giving other women every advantage and then winning me back. Every few years… Read more »
“The hero’s journey that involve a hero who goes on an adventure, and in a decisive crisis wins a victory, and then comes home changed or transformed.)”
“Every movie is just The Hobbit, the book. The original Star Wars is just The Hobbit. Every movie is just The Hobbit, except the movie The Hobbit.” -David Stewart
@rollo Following up on my comment, the phenomenon of guys who are bad in the bedroom seems related to your “kids with dynamite” post. Aziz’s celebrity and other guys’ routines got them into situations they couldn’t handle. They had not developed a solid foundation of understanding and abundance.
“Since they promised something they can’t deliver (longterm sexual monogamy) when these guys cheat (and they always do, eventually) they usually get caught, causing even more problems.” Simon: I fixed that with the LTR at the beginning. I never promised monogamy. It’s come to a point here that the LTR monogamous guys here including a few OMG’s and the host of the blog who are monogamous and don’t care to refute that. Have no reason to refute that. Because guess what? No monogamous Red Pill Guy is actually promising monogamy, even if they practice it. Married Red Pill, think of… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N8EFH-qYJ4
When Hollywood destroys you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgACfyfjFBI
When Hollywood creates you
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4805885/randy-fowler-kevin-spacey-brother-dad-thomas-geoffrey-fowler-sex-abuse/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_inI7FosB8
Almost all women feel turned off by insecurity in men. “9 signs of insecurity that turn women off are: 1. Unable to maintain eye contact 2. Being lost for words and then appearing nervous or unsure of himself 3. Doubting that she could ever like a guy like him 4. Communication that lacks confidence 5. Being afraid to express his true personality out of a fear of being judged by her 6. Giving his power to her 7. Trying to impress her by talking about his achievements or possessions 8. Displaying tense or nervous body language 9. Being unable to… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa9_3d_egoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYd94lXmicE
@Rugby January 25, 2018 at 12:26 am You little shit (in the sense of a you nephew speaking as an uncle). Time to put the past behind you. You are not open to failure. You should be. You read lots of stuff and you flail away at watching videos or movies. Not harm done there. And no harm done jacking off to porn or having fun unless it interferes with having a purpose and a mission as a masculine male. So far your job lately has been to Suppress the Fucking Shit out of your Soul. Stop It. You have… Read more »
https://medium.com/the-mission/social-shaming-88dbb03c6bf0
https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/
https://psychcentral.com/lib/male-sexual-shame-and-objectification-of-women/
Rugby The videos of Deida you posted are too gay and feminine. They bear no relationship to any degree what his writings approach in TWSM and Intimate Communion. He looks like a Fag in your videos. And Deida should be no message whatsoever to a non engaged relationship. It is relationship Game with nothing to do with PUA Game. It is after you get the girl. And how to be the best ever for her and you. Why did you post those videos of Deida? Perhaps because you like posting videos randomly in semi- or out of context. Deida has… Read more »
KL, you can’t be serious. Analyze a screed at Jezebel? LOL!
I have to go cut my toenails….
SJF January 25, 2018 at 9:09 pm For Rugby –> When I first met the LTR she asked about my past. I said I didn’t have one. (I was finishing my conversion). It may be a useful attitude to hold for a while. But you have to be strict about it. It can’t be just a pose. It has to be real for you. As has been pointed out several times ==> Give up your anger. And for God’s sake. Write. It is how you get better at it. Also, after you write, edit, edit, edit. Think about your readers… Read more »
SJF January 25, 2018 at 9:35 pm I gave a glance at the Deida method. What a crock. More useful (and probably harder to understand) is The Fourth Way by Ouspensky. But the rules are simpler. 1. Do not identify 2. Do not consider 3. Do not express negative emotions 4. Do not tell lies For the first two read the book. http://www.holybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/The-Fourth-Way-by-Ouspensky.pdf For the last two — obvious. And the last two are the most necessary. ======== Personally I’m sceptical of couples methods. The vast majority of women are totally useless for a man’s spiritual quest. Woman’s realm is… Read more »
Rugby. More words, less video. Write one sentence. Think about what you want to say. Put a period at the end. There is more? There will be more. Write a second sentence. Expand what you tried say in the first sentence. Period at the end. Think. There was more, surely. Write a third sentence. Period at the end, done. Think more. Write a fourth sentence, done with the period. Now pause. That’s a paragraph. Think. There is more to say, yes. Next paragraph is same as the first. Then one more. Three, perhaps four paragraphs, done. Let every sentence be… Read more »
Blaximus, I once read a crash report of a Cessna single engine high wing. Either a 172 or 182. Out in the desert of Nevada. On a full moon night an aircraft with pilot and one passenger smacked right into the edge of a mesa. Almost…but not quite….cleared the rim. Bam. Both dead right there. Post crash the pilot was buckled in his seat, the female passenger was not. His pants were down. Crash examiners found sufficient evidence to rule that the full moon nighttime BJ in an airplane didn’t turn out well. But! Musta been really dynamic, passionate and… Read more »
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@Sentient “Thus the anger and resentment. Nah. If it wasn’t for the opportunity to grandstand via the media craze over MeToo, this would have been discussed briefly with her GF’s while swilling mimosas…” I do not overlook the allure for generating drama and sympathy and attention over the incident by going public, but if you think there is no genuine anger over her feeling like she got a bait and switch, then you are kidding yourself. YES, she would not be getting national attention, but she STILL would be angry and resentful discussing it with her yenta clatch for the… Read more »
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@Anonymous Reader Only a women’s site would publish such negative information. Women have many stories of men who react badly to intimate sexual rejection. Men get hostile and violent, or they beg and cry. Naturally this doesn’t work, and the men don’t advertise it.
It is striking when men have skills to bring a woman home, but are so awful at seduction. These men just don’t get it, and that is why they encounter “Last Minute Resistance”.
@KL: “It is striking when men have skills to bring a woman home, but are so awful at seduction. These men just don’t get it, and that is why they encounter “Last Minute Resistance”.” Why is it “striking”? Isn’t this what Feminism wanted to accomplish. To emasculate men. Over the past few decades Millions of men were raised in single parent homes without an influence of a father figure, their mothers raising them to be more feminine, indoctrination by female teachers at school. Feminist propaganda and bullshit like “Yes means Yes”, “No means No”, “No means Yes”, “Yes means Maybe”,… Read more »
“Over the past few decades Millions of men were raised in single parent homes without an influence of a father figure, their mothers raising them to be more feminine, indoctrination by female teachers at school. Feminist propaganda and bullshit like “Yes means Yes”, “No means No”, “No means Yes”, “Yes means Maybe”, “get my verbal cues”. ”
But wait a minute, according to Dieda in the video above boys are getting objectively stupider, because they’re scoring worse on tests, but the tests and the teaching haven’t changed.
M Simon gets it The essence of Beta is fear of death. Until you get past that you can’t possibly live. I’d expand the essence of Beta to include fear of blame… AR does not… Crash examiners found sufficient evidence to rule that the full moon nighttime BJ in an airplane didn’t turn out well. But! Musta been really dynamic, passionate and authentic! Most definitely…. Better to go to Valhalla from your own actions of living – a moonlight orgasm in the stars – than stroke out in your recliner, sitting in a pool of piss, History Channel still blaring… Read more »
“…….but the tests and the teaching haven’t changed.” What’s changed is the teachers, over 90% female. Male teachers have been systematically eliminated from the education system, role of a father in a son’s life has been devalued and considered “superfluous” and there are no male only spaces where men can freely mentor young men to be masculine, everything has to take place under the watchful eyes of the FI . Young men are lost because their biology and instincts want them to be masculine, but the environment prohibits them from acting on it. It is no wonder that young men… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZluVURB-om0
To fight the horde and sing and cry, Valhalla, I am coming
Off to work…
[buckles on cutlass, sticks pistol in belt – anchors away!]
Effective chemical conception preventatives and abortifacients have been know for thousands of years.
Why is this statement significant?
I’m arguing hypergamy and you are arguing against it.
No, I’m arguing that hypergamy was leashed until modern times. You are arguing that hypergamy was never leashed.
If hypergamy was leashed prior to no fault divorce laws, then assuming unleashed conditions and projecting them onto the past is invalid.
I don’t accept the whole hunter/gatherer primitive story. It’s controversial to say the least. In recorded history, for which we have actual data, hypergamy was leashed. That we know.
Human mating patterns are not 1 to 1. Are they 2 to 1 (F/M)? There is evidence for it.
So you don’t buy the evidence.
I don’t buy the interpretation of the data. It seems very flawed.
Let me know when you have proof your cold fusion works and I might invest.
Rolling Stone magazine ranked him number 1 in their list of the “100 Greatest Drummers of All Time.” … Bonham never took formal drum lessons, … Bonham attended Lodge Farm Secondary Modern School, where his headmaster wrote in his report that “He will either end up a dustman or a millionaire.” … After leaving school in 1964 [16 yo], he worked for his father as an apprentice carpenter[9] between drumming for local bands. In 1964, Bonham joined his first semi-professional band, Terry Webb and the Spiders, and met his future wife Pat Phillips around the same time … At one… Read more »
“What’s changed is . . . ” . . . pretty much everything. Math test question circa 1960: A train leaves Chicago traveling east at 100 mph. At the same time, on the same rail, a train leaves NYC traveling west at 60 mph. Using the method of infinite series estimate their location at the point of impact. Show your work. Math test question circa 2010: In 1491 there were 10 million Native Americans. After the white man arrived and inundated them with smallpox contaminated blankets 90% of them died. How do you feel about that? [ ] Really, really… Read more »
@ASD: “Why is this statement significant?”
Try to keep track of your own premises and arguments.
“In recorded history, for which we have actual data, hypergamy was leashed. That we know.”
Certainly, and I have not seen anyone deny it. I certainly haven’t.
@Rugby, Hey man, you’re making progress. Just the fact that very recently you have started to write more is sign. When I first discovered TRM I sometimes thought of you and I as similar with this inner angst that we couldn’t let go of. Then this happened: Rise up and shrug off your shitty childhood and do some awesome stuff without being stifled. SJF and I were on a call and I was flailing, badly. I was going through a period of depression and wallowing in my shitty childhood. My childhood wasn’t all that bad, but there were some shitty… Read more »
File under Apple and Tree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_srvXDJaDGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESDgY40GN7g
“He was a true Gemini. He was Bonzo on the road with Zeppelin… He was always Dad at home. A loving father figure.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP-ZjbrNLWU
[PS – if you get to see the Jason Bonham Led Zeppelin Experience, (they are touring heavily) it is very much worth it]
nice one palma – January 26, 2018 at 12:07 am
sentient/simon: not of death or of anything in particular, just “The essence of Beta is fear” mortality, shame, intimidation, coercion, etc….. just some of the many faces of fear; face it, tame it, control it; ; let fear just be another blinking light on your HUD but don’t let it take over the controls rugby, you’re terrified of something… something bad happened in the past, now it’s taken over your future; you’re a grown man, time to face it, get thru it and come out stronger; you’re being tested, how do you think you’re doing so far? or you can… Read more »
@Rugby:
Listen to your uncles. They know what they’re talking about, although they’d have a much easier time of it if they could actually get their hands on you and haul you off to a deer camp.
Rugby Palma nails it. You write powerfully but it’s all feelings, not actions Keep writing what you’re writing, but also try this: Write occasionally about what you are doing, not what you are thinking. No past, no future, no inner conflicts. It might help to write as an unseen objective narrator (Not I I I me me me but Rugby is doing A B and C), like a camera is following you around. Your friends here need a point of reference and I think so do you. Write an occasional objective paragraph like this in italics just to take stock… Read more »
Sentient
1) “Better to go to Valhalla …” Now THAT is some fine writing.
2) The only problem with that Alpha 2.0 checklist is that at points it sounds oddly like … retirement!
You know, the bumper stickers that say No Job, No Boss No Worries No Money.
(I’m a very contented semi-retiree but far from even 1.0)
3) Best drummer ever — Bruford
“The folks were more vicious than the wildlife.”
True. Butthurt doesn’t exist in wildlife.
“. . . History Channel still blaring in the background . . . ”
Oh, dear God, anythiing but that. And to think how excited I was back in the day when I heard that there was going to be a channel that did nothing but history, 24/7.
There is a middle path; take your trip to Valhalla when you notice yourself beginning to slip, but are not yet so far gone that you can’t go out and make some fucking history in the process.
In the words of J. Stanton: Die biting the throat.
http://www.thegnollcredo.com/what-is-the-gnoll-credo/
And to think how excited I was back in the day when I heard that there was going to be a channel that did nothing but history, 24/7.
I thought it was great in the beginning, when its first critics called it the WW II channel. That early History Channel is now relegated to the “good old days” file, a time which possibly never existed.
today’s History Channel mantra:
“and if true, as ancient astronaut theorists believe, then all kinds of crazy shit can be believed”
@Sun Wukong
“Feminists that think they would get to fuck the winning Alpha are like eugenics advocates that think they would get to reproduce.”
Among the best comments I’ve ever read on this site. Genius.
On leaving TRM cold turkey, if only for a while. My time here prior to July was rollicking fun. I really enjoyed posting my own little up n’ down reconstruction. There’s an addictive quality to it, I admit. Perhaps the inability to speak frankly, publicly about critical personal and current events, issues impelled me. The abrupt time off was a personal inflection point. All I’ve learned prior, and I mean ALL, I put to use juggling certainly the most stressful part of my life. I didn’t peek once. I had to do this on my own and yeah It’d been… Read more »
“Feminists that think they would get to fuck the winning Alpha” …. sounds eerily similar to another peaceful group who expect to receive 72 virgins in the afterlife.
@M.Simon “Personally I’m skeptical of couples methods. The vast majority of women are totally useless for a man’s spiritual quest. Woman’s realm is life. Man’s is death. And until you have a personal acquaintance with death it is impossible for you (a man) to live. Facing death used to be an initiation rite in times long past. I suggest taking up a dangerous occupation for a while. Or spend your free time in biker bars. The essence of Beta is fear of death. Until you get past that you can’t possibly live. === And yes. You are going to die.… Read more »
“I suggest taking up a dangerous occupation for a while. Or spend your free time in biker bars. The essence of Beta is fear of death. Until you get past that you can’t possibly live. And yes. You are going to die. The further question is –> what do you intend to do until then?” Fine i’ll write write write https://www1.ticketmaster.com/dr-jordan-b-peterson/event/09005429F234466B The thing about death is ive always known it was going to happen. To much goodness to share. The problem i have about writing with myself is that it focuses on me. I become aware of not knowing thing’s… Read more »
“The problem i have about writing with myself is that it focuses on me. I become aware of not knowing thing’s I’ m confronted with needing to be confident in.” Seeing that as a problem is your first mistake. If Rollo’s writing oozes anything without saying it, it is: Enlightened Self Interest. Put the oxygen bag on yourself first. In this day and age with the manosphere, not knowing things and not being aware is no excuse. Confidence and competence is derived from experience. Experience is downstream from taking Action. And not just mindless action. Rugby, let your soul in… Read more »
https://blacklabellogic.com/2018/01/26/gendernomics-differentiation-and-features/
https://mikespassingthoughts.wordpress.com/2018/01/25/thoughts-on-the-prevalence-of-speculation-and-its-being-taken-as-fact/
https://aquestionersjourney.wordpress.com/2018/01/25/could-i-use-a-little-reducing/
@ rugby
Now, what are you going to do in the short term? Inquiring minds want to know.
The vast majority of women are totally useless for a man’s spiritual quest.
Repetition is the key to learning and this is worth a few reprints. The younger the man when he takes this wisdom on board the better.
“Treat your soul like it’s a seven year old boy in the body of an adult man. And start Roaming.” Self discipline is not self suppression. Suppression is when you resist and fight against your desires, keeping them as buried and unexpressed as possible. Self discipline is when your highest desires rule your lesser desires, not through resistance, but through loving action Red Pill Awareness grounded in understanding and compassion Game.–modified Deida. Self Destruction is not Self-Improvement. That’s just being a self induced Martyr and no one cares about that unless you are a Jesus (an externally induce martyr). And… Read more »
The greatest advantage I’ve had in life is being born in a time and place where it was borderline possible for me to survive, so borderline that my doctors didn’t know it yet. The original prognosis was 0% chance of making it past 5. The second greatest advantage is that I grew up dying, sometimes needing to focus my entire will to make it to the next breath, then again, and again, and . . . I have always known I was, absolutely and without question, going to die. The question was, “Am I going to die now.” When I… Read more »
Well… Getting my stuff together to head out. Going to approach a few women when i go out in the city this evening.
Short term hitting gym
Building a business
Stay outdoors more often Do what EhIntellect does and Take a break on here. Go out and get laid.
Rollo, guys….about that open hypergamy😁😁😁
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/25/health/cuckolding-sex-kerner/index.html
Basically, “Cuckolding is healthy, & those against are conservatives who harbour that fantasy”
😏
“The thing about death is ive always known it was going to happen.”
Knowing of IT is not equivalent of Accepting IT and cheating IT of its Destiny.
I think that the test of whether you only *know* about your own death or *understand/accept* it is whether your life takes on a sense of urgency or not
it’s a great motivator and the earlier you get it, the better; but as a greater wit than I said, “youth is wasted on the young”
Knowing that I was going to die was a great motivator.
Knowing that I was going to die now was a peak experience and a great release.
Knowing I had released, but continued to live was: Freedom.
“youth is wasted on the young”
What Does that mean from where you are in your own life?
“Knowing of IT is not equivalent of Accepting IT and cheating IT of its Destiny.”
Sure but when i die ill know i wasn’t looking for it or inducing it on myself. I will die.
https://mantalks.com/men-deal-with-grief/
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.2190/55WN-1VUF-TQ3W-GD53
http://sophia.stkate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1273&context=msw_papers
Death as a concept is solely human.
theasdgamer
January 26, 2018 at 5:48 am
If you understood Polywell Fusion at any level you would know it has nothing to do with cold fusion. It is a hot fusion method.
And the idea that hypergamy has been leashed through history until recently is similarly flawed.