Thoughts on Aziz Ansari

I’m going to make a confession here; until a week ago I had no idea who Aziz Ansari was. I get he was some low limit comedian, and in today’s social environment that means he lectures an audience about social justice issues for an hour while trying to insert some humor into his act. I’ve pretty much given up on most comedians these days, and I’m a guy who used to love standup. However, my unfamiliarity with Aziz was actually a benefit in assessing his recent pillory in the mainstream. Had I known about him before all this, and his comedy activism, I likely would’ve just dismissed his case as the next guy to be put into the MeToo deadpool of celebrity men – and I’m being generous about the “celebrity” part.

I had actually resigned myself to blowing off his whole story until I started digging into the particulars of the ‘date’ he had with the anonymous “Grace”. On first pass this whole incident is easy to dismiss even for Red Pill aware men with better things to do than bother themselves with another Hollywood chump to go down to the open power grab that MeToo and TimesUp have become. There is, however, a lot to unpack in the whole thing though. If you want the whole story you can read about it here on Babe.net, the blog for “Girls who don’t give a fuck”, which is interesting because apparently they give a lot of fucks according to the story.

Just to break down some of the particulars here:

  • She (Grace) approaches Aziz in the beginning. Flirts with him and then goes back to her date she was with that evening. They would catch each other glancing at the other durning the night (IOIs). They ‘ran into each other’ later and he number closes.
  • Aziz Beta texts her almost immediately and tries to text Game/flirt with her before he asks her out
  • Before meeting Ansari, she tells friends and coworkers about the date and consulted her go-to group chat about what she should wear to fit the “cocktail chic” dress-code he gave her. She settled on “a tank-top dress and jeans.” She showed me a picture, it was a good outfit.
  • After the white wine she didn’t like, they end up back at his place. She complimented his marble countertops. Ansari turned the compliment into an invitation. “He said something along the lines of, ‘How about you hop up and take a seat?’” Within moments, he was kissing her. “In a second, his hand was on my breast.” Then he was undressing her, then he undressed himself.
  • Ansari tells her he was going to get a condom within minutes of their first kiss, Grace voiced her hesitation explicitly. “I said something like, ‘Whoa, let’s relax for a sec, let’s chill.’” She says he then resumed kissing her, briefly performed oral sex on her, and asked her to do the same thing to him. She did, but not for long. “It was really quick. Everything was pretty much touched and done within ten minutes of hooking up, except for actual sex.”
  • Ansari repeatedly attempts ‘The Claw’. on her “The move he kept doing was taking his two fingers in a V-shape and putting them in my mouth, in my throat to wet his fingers, because the moment he’d stick his fingers in my throat he’d go straight for my vagina and try to finger me.” “It was 30 minutes of me getting up and moving and him following and sticking his fingers down my throat again. It was really repetitive. It felt like a fucking game.”
  • Ansari physically pulled her hand towards his penis multiple times throughout the night, from the time he first kissed her on the countertop onward. “He probably moved my hand to his dick five to seven times,” she said. “He really kept doing it after I moved it away.”
  • Ansari presses her for sex. He asks repeatedly, “Where do you want me to fuck you?” while she was on the countertop. She says she didn’t want to fuck him at all. He keeps asking, so she says, ‘Next time.’ Aziz says, ‘Oh, you mean second date?’ and she says, ‘Oh, yeah, sure,’ and he goes, ‘Well, if I poured you another glass of wine now, would it count as our second date?’
  • She later says she doesn’t want it to seem forced and this wakes Ansari up from his sexual stupor. “He said, ‘Oh, of course, it’s only fun if we’re both having fun. Let’s just chill over here on the couch.’ Ansari instructed her to turn around. “He sat back and pointed to his penis and motioned for me to go down on him. And I did. I think I just felt really pressured. It was literally the most unexpected thing I thought would happen at that moment because I told him I was uncomfortable.”
  • Halfway into the encounter, he led her from the couch to a different part of his apartment. He said he had to show her something. Then he brought her to a large mirror, bent her over and asked her again, “Where do you want me to fuck you? Do you want me to fuck you right here?” He rammed his penis against her ass while he said it, pantomiming intercourse.
  • They got dressed, sat side by side on the couch they’d already “chilled” on, and he turned on an episode of Seinfeld. While the TV played in the background, he kissed her again, stuck his fingers down her throat again, and moved to undo her pants. She turned away.  “I remember saying, ‘You guys are all the same, you guys are all the fucking same.’” Ansari asked her what she meant. When she turned to answer, she says he met her with “gross, forceful kisses.” After that last kiss, Grace stood up from the couch, moved back to the kitchen island where she left her phone, and said she would call herself a car. He hugged her and kissed her goodbye, another “aggressive” kiss. When she pulled away, Ansari finally relented and insisted he’d call her the car.

All of this detail is important to consider because Ansari’s actions here are classic Beta Game desperation tactics. It is literally one Beta move after another. Many of the reviewers of this incident like to point out that it was really a misunderstood date gone wrong, or else they use it as proof-positive of a sexual assault, but I’m going to argue something different here – Ansari is simply a Beta chump with very little Game savvy who, if he’d had even a hint of Game awareness could’ve had a good sexual experience both for himself and her.

As I’ve mentioned before, I’m not a proponent of men attempting to push past last minute resistance. For as much as “enthusiastic consent” will be used as a tool of fear to dissuade Beta men from even attempting to approach, I can’t say that I wouldn’t want a woman to have a genuine desire to fuck me in any sexual episode. I can remember in my ‘rock star 20s’ doing exactly this. If a woman wasn’t into having sex with me or she had some reservations or some hoops she expected me to jump through in order to get her to “come around” to fucking me I would simply excuse myself from the situation. I was at a point in my life where I had many other (proven) options, and if a new prospect wasn’t an absolutely ‘enthusiastic’  “Hell Yes!” girl I had at least six other women who were eager to come over and fuck me. This was just a subconscious awareness I took for granted at the time, but it was an attitude that stemmed from abundance.

That was essentially my Game back then. It was the natural reflex of an Alpha man and women responded to it. The behaviors and attitudes I exhibited just flowed from my unrehearsed subconscious. It was who I was. Dread is much more effective for a man when a woman sees that he’s oblivious to his causing dread.

Most men never really experience this kind of sexual abundance and as such it colors their outlook and how they expect sex to work for them. One big problem inherent to men’s Blue Pill conditioning is the idea that sex must be negotiated for a woman to feel comfortable enough to fuck a guy, but more importantly in this era, to avoid any misunderstandings that would lead to his getting a sexual misconduct allegation. The Blue Pill teaches men to respect women by default, for no other reason than she has a vagina, but also that open communication, full disclosure and negotiation are necessary elements of sex. We can see this played out in the ludicrous expectation that every sex action a man involves himself in requires vocal enthusiastic consent. This is the acculturation; men are expected to negotiate every sexual detail of a sexual experience.

Needless to say this is patently ridiculous, but it’s also the surest way to kill the actual enthusiasm a woman might actually have for a guy. One thing that will separate Alpha men from Betas in the future will be that man’s honed capacity to remove himself from any sexual situation that is negotiated. Women want to play the Game, they don’t want the Game explained to them. They want a man who Just Gets It and the men who don’t get it will be the ones whose dutiful Blue Pill conditioning prompts them to start any and every approach at intimacy by negotiating the terms for a woman’s desire.

You cannot negotiate genuine desire, but this negotiation is exactly what modern feminism simultaneously fosters and struggles against. The idea of ‘enthusiastic consent’ is really a want on the part of women to have the sex they genuinely have a desire to experience with a man. This is all women want to write about now and the Ansari incident is a textbook example of the kind of negotiated sex women don’t want to have, but sometimes go through with for transactional reasons. Remember, sex with Alpha men is validational for women – lackluster ‘meh’ sex with Beta men is transactional sex. If you only read what women are writing about sex today you’d think that transactional sex is all they’ve ever been having – and sexist men see women as ‘soft’ prostitutes. Now it’s suddenly some revolutionary act for women to have the sex Alpha sex enjoyment they’ve always “deserved” but have been repressed by transactional sex with Betas.

That said, I can’t disagree entirely with the want for an enthusiastic sex partner who genuinely wants to fuck me 12 ways to Tuesday. And this is women’s rationale today, “Don’t you want to fuck a woman who really wants to fuck you?” It’s hard to argue against the “Hell Yes” girl, until you realize that the sex they are describing is only reserved for the guy they really want to bang and mistakenly believe their overinflated self-value warrants.

Now, I’ve read the debate from PUAs who make the point that it is entirely possible to make a ‘No’ girl into a ‘Hell Yes’ girl. I’ve seen the infield videos so I’ll spare you the linking. My question then is, after deftly applying Game and calibrating all the minutiae to do so, how does this compare to a woman who has a genuine desire for you from the start? I think one huge hurdle for guys unplugging from their Blue Pill conditioning have to face is the presupposition that sex is only the result of a process of negotiation. That negotiation is what the Blue Pill teaches boys and men from a very early age.

Aziz! Light!

The Ansari incident has a lot of Red Pill lessons to teach. First and foremost is the fact that Ansari is a consumate Beta. Looking at the guy he resembles any number of Indian computer programmers frustrated by a want for the secret formula to make a gorgeous American blonde with big tits fall in love with him. Don’t get me wrong, I counsel these men personally, but he fits that schema. Next, Ansari is a vocal and outspoken White Knight for feminism and regularly proves his male self-loathing as part of his standup act. I mean, the guy wears a Time’s Up pin. But like most male feminists, he gets hung by his own Beta Game bullshit – this is the fate of all male feminists.

Lastly, Ansari is a Beta who made good. I’ve talked about the Blue Pill White Knights and self-righteous AFCs in many a post, but I’m not sure I’ve emphasized how dangerous this mindset can be for a Beta who has a combination of affluence, celebrity and social proof. There comes a self-validation in that Blue Pill mindset when women want to be associated with him. He develops a belief that it’s his Blue Pill conditioning, and his adherence to it, that is the reason for his relative success with women. This insulates these guys from ever disconnecting from that conditioning, but it also lessens an incentive to see women in any other perspective. The result of this is exactly what Ansari experienced in this incident. He was too comfortable in presuming his pro-woman, female identifying, Beta Game would make his sexual expression ‘Okay’ with any woman who gave him positive sexual interest.

Another big indicator of this, and really much of Beta Game, was his repeated pawing of Grace and repeated sexual expressions with her. It wasn’t working as he believed it should, so what was his solution? Continue with the negotiation and hope for a positive sign of reinforcement from her. Every act that Ansari attempted with Grace was a form of negotiation. I can’t get sex? How about a blow job? No? Okay how about if I go down on you? She feels forced? Woah, default to female identification persona. Presume the sale, “How do you want me to fuck you?”

This is all one big negotiation – there is no genuine desire and no enthusiasm of the part of Grace – but since Ansari has never had the incentive to learn Game he keep going back to what he thinks should work on her.

To wrap all of this up, I should mention that the reason this whole affair went viral is should really be no surprise. It’s one more example of everything MeToo has been harping on for almost 5 months now, yes, but it’s also an illustration of exactly this new sentiment of the “grey area” sex I brought to light in Dangerous Times – Part 2. It’s sex women have out of courtesy (Aziz got a courtesy hummer) or convenience or just as something to do. It is exactly the obligated sex I’ve been talking about since The Desire Dynamic. This incident is exactly the story this ‘grey sex’ sentiment had needed, but in the larger picture it highlights the difference between transactional sex and validational sex.

As Open Hypergamy becomes yet more normalized it’s now time that the Feminine Imperative acknowledges the type of sex women desire and enjoy, and the type of sex they feel obligated to perform as part of a negotiation or transaction. And naturally the need to define what women’s Hypergamy dictates becomes a new form of shame for men. Evil Patriarchal men are to blame for women having to openly acknowledge that they only want to fuck Alpha men with any real enthusiasm. Men are to blame for validational and transactional sex, and now absolved, women can take the next steps in consolidating on Hypergamy.

No, there’s no current legislation that makes ‘unenthusiasitc sex’ a sex crime (yet), but remember that the sexual arms race is always fought in the court of public opinion before anything is written in ink.

727 comments

  1. Not trying to spam the comments section, but I did write a couple of posts about this very topic- specifically as to why that woman felt confident enough to accuse Aziz Ansari of something that she would almost certainly not have accused a white celebrity of similar fame and wealth of doing. Also, how her 1998-era assumptions backfired in 2018.

    Here is the first one, of the two..

    https://dissention.wordpress.com/2018/01/16/first-thoughts-on-aziz-ansari-sexual-assault-scandal-jan-16-2018/

  2. I had a few thoughts on this. I think that “Grace’s” version of the truth tries to paint her in the best possible light, but taking just here side of the story we have another prime example of Beta 101:

    1. Game is important now than ever. – If you don’t learn it, you will be crucified

    2. Your loyalty doesn’t mean shit. – Male Feminist think that by allying themselves with the “noble cause” they will get the sex they feel they’ve earned, only to be shocked when they don’t

    3. Allegation is the new “Truth.” – No one seems to care about asking questions to see what really happened, it’s just become a world of “she said it, therefore it must be 100% true”

    I fully explore these in a post: https://alphajedi.com/2018/01/15/beta-beware/

  3. Wow! Insightful article. Western society has truly reached a 80/20 moment in the dating market.
    Would like to hear what others think the consequences of this consolidated hypergamy will be for men, women and the law moving forward over the next 5-10 years. As we know, every action creates an opposite and equal action. So, will there be a notable backlash against the FI or will half of the male population to some degree or other simply be removed from the sexual marketplace?

    If what Rollo highlights is true, having seductive skills, decent fitness and sexual discipline; which was sufficient prior to 2017, has become in 2018 a necessity, especially for the single unwed American male.

    If not dangerous times, we have entered a miserable phase of western history for the majority of males…

  4. “Heather Locklear – who dated David in 2006 – revealed in April that the reason the 5ft8in funnyman attracts women of her ilk has everything to do with his significant manhood.

    ‘Number one, he’s funny. Number two, he has a big c***,’ the 56-year-old Golden Globe nominee told TMZ, laughing.”

  5. “Every act that Ansari attempted with Grace was a form of negotiation. I can’t get sex? How about a blow job? No? Okay how about if I go down on you? ”

    man that part was painful to read

  6. Ansari’s actions here are classic Beta Game desperation tactics. It is literally one Beta move after another.

    I’d like a little more clarification on why this is so. How would it have gone if he were a confident, sexually aggressive alpha? What would be different? (Leaving aside “the claw” thing… I don’t get that at all… what the heck was he trying to achieve with that?)

  7. @Tarl

    from the original ‘babe’ post:

    “He said something along the lines of, ‘How about you hop up and take a seat?’” Within moments, he was kissing her. “In a second, his hand was on my breast.” Then he was undressing her, then he undressed himself. She remembers feeling uncomfortable at how quickly things escalated.

    When Ansari told her he was going to grab a condom within minutes of their first kiss, Grace voiced her hesitation explicitly. “I said something like, ‘Whoa, let’s relax for a sec, let’s chill.’”

    He is moving too fast. She’s not comfortable yet. I mean she even verbalized it. A guy with game would recognize this and understand that he needs to back off and get her comfortable first, then arouse her, then make his move. Smooth. Kinda like this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwHH–c3A9o

    If they were both horny from the dinner date, like he was sexually teasing her, touching her sexually and she was responded to it positively, holding hands leading up to his apartment, etc., then yeah it would be fine to go ahead and just start ripping each others clothes cause that’s what she’d expect a sexually aggressive alpha to do.

  8. “Ansari’s actions here are classic Beta Game desperation tactics. It is literally one Beta move after another.”

    I’d like a little more clarification on why this is so. How would it have gone if he were a confident, sexually aggressive alpha? What would be different? (Leaving aside “the claw” thing… I don’t get that at all… what the heck was he trying to achieve with that?)

    Really Tarl?

    What don’t you actually understand about Red Pill and Game?

    You know the old saw about you can never ask a stupid question? It’s not actually true.

    He didn’t generate desire. What don’t you understand about that?

    “How would it have gone if he were a confident, sexually aggressive alpha?”

    Fucking desire.

    What exactly is your question? Because it is a stupid, nonsensical question.

  9. @Tarl

    Come on, man, he had zero calibration, zero awareness, zero clue about anything. Likely he watches waaaaay too much porn and is very close to being a virgin.

    If you don’t understand this, you need remedial Game 010 immediately. Start at Heartiste.

  10. @AD “Grace” appears to have succeeded though. In public opinion, she is mostly regarded as a victim, Aziz has been judged a quasi-rapist, and Aziz’s career is probably finished.

    I think feminists recognize three stages of consent, implied -> affirmative -> enthusiastic. Judging by Aziz’s example, enthusiastic should be the standard for hook-ups and similar. With enthusiastic you aren’t allowed to negotiate. That’s “coercion” according to feminists, tantamount to abuse. Any hesitation, reluctance, verbal or non-verbal, and its probably best to call things off.

  11. “Every act that Ansari attempted with Grace was a form of negotiation. I can’t get sex? How about a blow job? No? Okay how about if I go down on you? ”

    j
    man that part was painful to read

    Doubly so for any man who has ever even remotely come close to trying to negotiate for sex.

    Triply so for any married AFC who got so betaized he resorted to negotiaton or begging.

    Azis’s “Wile E. Coyote” game is wrong in every possible way.

  12. Personally I think he intellectually was aware of some game aspects , which he tried to apply, like text game, kino and isolating and escalating and presuming the sale but I think he was early on in his social calibration and tried to apply Lmr methods a la Bang for example and failed in that attempt. Understandable error from my pov but had he had prior experience in being genuinely desired, he would have seen the difference

  13. @john smithers

    I read three different reviews of Peterson’s books (all generated by UK British critics/writers), two were neg (feminitstas males) and one was positive. (just google search a review of his latest book.)

    Peterson has great stuff. (His Psychology insights from clinical practice with he only peripherally alluded to are quite exceptional. I have the same experience in my clinical practice.Great stuff.)

    But there is a limit to his greatness of ideas. The same limits that were in place for Ayn Rand. (Ayn rand was limited by her two dimensional life rather than a five dimensional life–spirituality and religiosity (sic). Peterson is limited by his guidance for young boys and old men in their deficiencies on red pill–sexual strategy in the realm of the manosphere. I.e not a touch point for manosphere inter-sexual strategy. He has no universal truths along that that line. Doesn’t mean he is useless. He is extra-ordinarily useful in standing up to truth and reality. Via history and archetypes. You’d be stupid to dismiss his ideas.

    But he is not into the business of inter-sexual strategy, except peripherally. So don’t criticize or or seek him out for that, any more than you would seek out Dagny Taggart out in Atlas Shrugged as anything more than a good Alpha Fuck, rather than Philosophical, Spiritual, or Religious Guidance. That wasn’t her Forte. She was out for profit. So don’t ask it of them (Rand or Peterson) for extra dimensions. They don’t have it and that is perfectly OK in the scheme of things.

    That shit can take you only so far, but it is not a criticism of how it can start you up. No young man should not ever read Ayn Rand and no young man should not take to Peterson like they would Gaming (the worthless, Xbox shit thing).

    Notwithstanding the fall out from his recent interview with the Cathy Newman. The fallout from that was epic, and casts Peterson in a great light. If any one could so ever speak that well from having his head about him. That was funny as hell. And fun is not for nothing.

  14. “The blog for ‘Girls who don’t give a fuck’, which is interesting because apparently they give a lot of fucks according to the story.”

    @Rollo

    Thought the exact say thing when I read the post a while back – after all the indignation and #metoo news. Scrolled to the bottom, and had to laugh out loud when I saw the site’s tagline. The image is telling also. Mixed messages all round.

  15. She complimented his marble countertops.

    Whoa, what a hot girl she is! No wonder she was completely entitled to world class sexxx! Complmenting his long, smooth, hard…marble countertops.

    Sheesh.
    Where’s Frank Zappa when we need him? Why, right here…

  16. Sheesh.
    Where’s Frank Zappa when we need him? Why, right here…

    Not sure where you were going with that. I always figured F. Zappa for Aziz Ansari like sex appeal in his music.

    Not impressed with Zappa.

    I assume you feel the same. Weird is not necessarily appealing, right?

  17. “” (Leaving aside “the claw” thing… I don’t get that at all… what the heck was he trying to achieve with that?)””

    Agreed …. that was just plain weird.

  18. “you’d think that transactional sex is all they’ve ever been having”

    If you were back on the dating scene like I am, I think you would believe like I do that for the bulk of women this is true for most of their sexual encounters. It’s such a sea of blue pills out there, and most of them are so badly out of shape that most men are probably just emptying the sack and not much more.

    Xmas plate says she gets interrogated by her two close friends about our encounters. Both in their 40’s. One has never had an orgasm, and the other is almost as wide as the door.

    Of his bad moves I particularly didn’t like was him putting her on the ‘counter’. I’ve come to realise that women either look up to you or look down on you and nothing in between. It’s a bad mistake to put her physically somewhere where she is looking down on you before you have thoroughly nailed it.

    He physically put her on a pedestal. Anyway, his #TimesUp. #Hebettersuckuphisownshit

  19. White woman expects brown man to have $$$ + the cock and confidence of a black man, sorely disappointed, too weak/confused to ‘just say NO’ and back out gracefully, post-hookup indignation kicks in, hamster seeks alternative narrative, then this. It’s kinda funny, in a way.

  20. @Mean Mr. Mustard

    The claw thing sounds like some fumbled attempt and wholly miscalibrated dominance game.

    One move in a desire circumstance is to make them suck their own juice from your fingers which can turn in various directions depending on how things are going.

    He’s probably seen it on tv and decided to try it at home.

  21. Rollo,

    Thanks for clarifying your position on enthusiastic sex. I was wondering.

    ====

    How I handled marginal (and not so marginal) enthusiasm. “Sleep with me naked. No sex. I like the body contact.” And then I sleep with them. No sex.

    About 3/4s come back raging for it. (Is there something wrong with me? Is he gay? I thought for sure once I got naked it would escalate.”) The other 1/4? I got to sleep with them naked.

  22. @Alpha Jedi

    Considering the new Star Wars movies and your choice of name, I have a question for you.

    Are you the last Jedi, or the last “Alpha” Jedi?

  23. Here is photog girl’s complaint, along with a lot of other girls:

    [One of my guilty pleasure bands. I’ve seen them live at a couple of promos I did]

  24. Thanks to whomever it was last year that posted Hey Violet vid above.
    I can’t recall except the gravatar was green. Not Lost Patrol. Someone else.

    This is what girls want. Anyone disgree?

  25. I thought of The Fifth Element as well. The scene ending with Korben Dallas (Bruce Willis) saying “Anyone else wanna negotiate?”.

    I wonder if the next thing women bitch about, as an unintended consequence of #MeToo, that Beta men will simply cut their date short at the first sign of impenetrable resistance (or rather, insufficient genuine desire, or to use their own NewSpeak petard, a lack of “enthusiastic consent”). It might actually work in a Blue Pill guy’s favour to not even bother with ordering the main course and saying “you know what? I’m not feeling it, anything between us. Cheque please”.

  26. rugby11
    January 23, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    “I love hurting you. It makes you so hot for me.” Can work if the circumstances are right. I prefer deep emotional wounds. They leave no visible scars. Think of it as extreme dread.

  27. @Mineter

    “not even bother with ordering the main course and saying “you know what? I’m not feeling it, anything between us. Cheque please”

    I’ve done that

    And told another to put her knickers back on and left when faced with LMR

  28. And why dread works? Well – in ages past a man abandoning a woman was a death sentence for her. Which may also explain “agreeableness”.

    What does abandonment mean for women in “the West” these days? A hard life.

    Death is more serious.

  29. Nah its cause of a lifetime of neglect by not doing resistence training. 47 and bones are strong as and will be just as strong or stronger in my 50s.

  30. Don’t miss an import part of this. Several have commented on how Aziz seemed like he was badly trying to apply some game he had heard or read about. I think this is true. We need to realize is that the space to learn game is getting smaller by the day and the penalties for screwing it up more severe.

    I think we are going to get to the point where only naturals have a decent shot. I’m glad I’m old. I don’t know how a fumbling 17 year old is supposed to figure game out when the legal consequences of giving it a go could mean expulsion from school or worse.

  31. This is a prime example of feminist propaganda publicly making wild emotional accusations while ignoring all reason, logic, and reality. An even better example is the recent Jordan Peterson interview on Channel 4, where he completely and utterly destroys the bitter, vindictive hostess Cathy Newman. All major British newspapers subsequently report Peterson to be an ‘abusive misogynist’, the debate is determined to be ‘roughly equal’, and all attention is pulled away from the debate and towards Ms. Newman as she was apparently ‘threatened’ (even though the abuse from her supporters towards Peterson was infinitely much larger).

    What the hell has this world come to if major newspapers are blindly spreading feminist propaganda this way? Surely people can not be this blind – how can we assist people in realizing that the whole femsphere is a crock of shit? How far does the bullshit have to go before people can see the truth?

  32. Aziz has more balls than 80% of the men in the western world. He went ahead and grabbed her by the pussy. Guts. A girl brings herself to a guy’s digz and expects zero grab? Mbusit. Game is overayed. But I dont get the claw thing. Should just have fuk the bitch n moved on.

  33. It’s a sad story to see how deep ingrained his conditioning is. In some countries – it’s normal for two men to hold hands as a sign of “close friendship”. His beta behavior is going to need some serious unplugging or else, that can easily go suicidal.

  34. Classic case of escalating too quick and the girl getting buyer’s remorse.

    Game teaches guys to err on the side of boldness. However his low sexual value and inability to calibrate are what sparked the buyer’s remorse.

    Had he brought her home and not blown his wad so quickly she may have been more intrigued by this beta looking guy’s boldness…

    Girls will be intrigued if you’re a jerk and you deliver but not if you act like you know what you’re doing…but actually don’t.

  35. cheupez
    January 24, 2018 at 4:04 am
    Aziz has more balls than 80% of the men in the western world. He went ahead and grabbed her by the pussy. Guts. A girl brings herself to a guy’s digz and expects zero grab? Mbusit. Game is overayed. But I dont get the claw thing. Should just have fuk the bitch n moved on.

    ——–

    He was playing with dynamite. Totally miscalibrated and fucked up the situation. It was FUBAR. If he was willing to learn from his mistakes then your comment would hold more water. But guys like that generally will continue with their tactics as he is a feminist male.

    Rollo’s post is perfect for guys who are new to the red pill and need a quick wake up on Game. Mystery 101 could also be applied here. Just groping a woman like Aziz did without her having desire was a huge mistake. Game is overrated? Hardly. The claw thing in her mouth was really really done poorly. For fucks sake that is going to gross out most chicks, especially if there is no true desire. You can use all sorts of things like that to your advantage but that is not one I personally would employ. You need to get her panties wet without having to use saliva. The girl needs to be dripping with desire, not by forcing your spit coated fingers into her vagina.

  36. The Jordan Peterson interview with Cathy Newman is a great example of how to hold Frame. Worth watching just for that reason alone. He used dog language and rational logic to his advantage.

  37. @Alexander,

    “What the hell has this world come to if major newspapers are blindly spreading feminist propaganda this way?”

    Most of the newsrooms in the U.S. are filled with feminist editors and reporters. Male feminists are the worst to deal with. I know many. You have to walk very carefully and watch what you say in these environments. The few masculine males that work for the newspaper business are in sales, and they keep their head down because good salesmen know when to shut up and when to speak.

  38. Poor old Aziz and all his fellow Betas. They really just don’t get it and as such will now not only miss the fuck, but be publicly shamed for it and worse. But if it played out even half as badly as she wrote, then it was a pretty cringe worthy scene nevertheless. Just looking at his pic (as i wrote on the last post) he is 100% Beta. Without a doubt. And he blew it, big time, as any RP guy would expect him to. The fingers down the throat is a result of too much porn and not very much sexperience, if any at all…

    If a girl goes back to your place it’s a lay down misere, as us Aussie’s would say. Unless you fuck it up of course, which i’m sure most have us have done at some point in time and learned from. The first time i got with the Serpent last year, after we finally pashed, instead of immediately escalating (which i never do and it always works a treat), i knew i had her, so nonchalantly suggested a night walk around my property, where i ran off and pretended to ambush her and scare her. She said it was funny as she could see me running off, trying to hide and following her in the moonlight. I was a bit high, so i also enjoyed myself. When we finally got back to the house it was on for young and old…

    And she was very enthusiastic gentlemen, quickly on all fours of her own volition…

    Always take it easy once you know they’re in the bag. Making a girl wait for the fuck drives them wild with desire, and turbo charges your Alpha cred. This is “just getting it” big time in my sexperience. And i’ve had lots of practice over the years & it always works, so try it if you haven’t before. It was how Bukowski also rolled, from his stories…

  39. OK

    On the “claw” whatever (never heard of the term), well putting my fingers in a girls mouth is always a solid move. They love it. Make out, hand on throat, kiss neck, tits… Fingers in her mouth to suck on. Work other hand to her pussy, now she has the double penetration feeling. Take hand from her pussy and put those fingers in her mouth. They always go crazy for this stuff.

    He just didn’t read her signals, she wasn’t turned on enough.

    He was doing the beta thing, following the “plan”, the “rules”, the “checklist” – because he couldn’t be blamed for the outcome because he followed!

  40. The idea that falls in the elderly are caused by the fracture, rather than the other way around is not anywhere near new. I wrote about it here years ago. Other places decades ago. And of course such fractures begin with a micro fracture which propogates.

    The question is why does it fracture.

    Bone is not an inert structural beam of mineral composition. It is living, adaptive tissue, chiefly made of protein, like your fingernails and hair. Your hair is very strong. Perhaps stronger than steel in tension, but it is very flexible. You can’t snap it. You can tie it in knots. Not very useful as a structural beam that’s going to be under compression and bending loads. So, calcium is taken into the matrix which stiffens it.

    But not too much.

    An example I use to show the difference between a calcium structure and a protein structure is to ask people to compare a calcium carbonate exoskeleton (a clam shell) with a fresh chicken bone. You can fracture a fresh clam shell. You can take a fresh wishbone and tie it in a knot as if it were a thick hair. Bones are not armor They are load bearing structural elements, so they need to be flexible enough to be durable. To give a little rather than fracturing.

    The difference between a hair and a bone is that hair is dead, a bone is living and adaptive tissue.

    So why does the bone of an elderly person break just walking along?

    Because their living tissue has been adapting to the low physical stress the elderly typically subject themselves to. Maintaining living tissue is energy costly. Structures you aren’t using get reduced to reduce energy requirements. It’s a simple survival adaptation to an environment in which food was often scarce. Living proteins are constantly being broken down and built up. This is what keeps them “fresh.” By only slightly altering the ratio of these processes the total mass of protein can increased or decreased.

    So, in people with low levels of physical stress the walls of the bones become thinner and more porous as protein is leached from them, but the calcium remains. The bones become lowered in structural strength, but increased in stiffness and brittleness.

    Now they can form micro fractures. Micro fractures that propagate rather than heal. Because they are over calcified as a ratio with the protein.

    So what is the solution?

    Add a stress for which the adaptive response is to add protein. LIFT.

    Doctors have traditionally said “You’re old, we have to worry about your heart. You shouldn’t over exert yourself. We have to worry about your bones, You should stop stressing them.”

    These are not only the opposite of the indicated intervention, they are the intervention which will exacerbate the symptoms. They make you weaker, which will make do even less, which will make you weaker, which will . . .

    And the doctors will say, “Of course you’re frail and weak. You’re old,”

    Fucking doctors (no offense intended to those present).

  41. And Aziz stated after Grace’s allegations were publicized that he continues to support the MeToo movement!!! Instead of being concerned about the movement’s ability to ruin someone by making unsubstantiated/false allegations, he continues to support a movement that is trying to ruin, embarrass, humiliate him. Seems like plenty of men are to afraid of saying anything against the movement out of fear of being ostracized. Sad indeed and Aziz must be delusional.

  42. I walked out of the theater ranting to a friend, ” Love? Love is the fifth element? Give me a fucking break.”

    Then a few years later bought the DVD and watch it a couple times a year. It’s a silly comic book movie, but in a good way.

  43. On a slightly different topic, did anyone see the Turbo Tax Cuck Baby commercial?
    Overview: Husband and wife are welcoming the baby post delivery. Mailman comes into the room and the baby obviously looks like the mailman who is delivering balloons and flowers to the wife while cuck husband is told by the nurse that at least his taxes are free.
    Amazing how willingly advertising thinks paternity is something to joke about and how blatantly men are being slapped in the face with this type of insulting advertising. Apparently, Turbo Tax thinks that it’s OK to portray the wife as a whore and the husband as a cuck.
    I can no longer find the link to the commercial since it’s listed as no longer available. I’m hoping Turbo Tax gets pounded for advocating that paternity is something to be joked about.
    Might be an interesting topic for TRM.

  44. An even better example is the recent Jordan Peterson interview on Channel 4, where he completely and utterly destroys the bitter, vindictive hostess Cathy Newman. All major British newspapers subsequently report Peterson to be an ‘abusive misogynist’, the debate is determined to be ‘roughly equal’, and all attention is pulled away from the debate and towards Ms. Newman as she was apparently ‘threatened’ (even though the abuse from her supporters towards Peterson was infinitely much larger).

    What the hell has this world come to if major newspapers are blindly spreading feminist propaganda this way?

    The beginning and end of the Peterson/Newman dustup was that Peterson defeated Newman in an argument, and quite spectacularly. He mopped up the floor with her and literally left her speechless, unable to reply or come back with a cogent thought at one point.

    It’s getting to the point where a man winning a rational argument with a woman is now sexual assault/sex harassment. It’s not just “mansplaining” or “hate”. It’s now a crime to prove a woman wrong in a debate.

  45. Are there any non-white/non-black men you consider Alpha? Ansari is coasting on his money and fame but he is still beta because he is a ‘short, ugly, out of shape, Indian guy’ — So being Alpha comes back down to being tall, having masculine facial features, muscles and white.

  46. Blue_dover

    So being Alpha comes back down to being tall, having masculine facial features, muscles and white.

    While all that can be Alpha, have a look at David Spade above. He misses on many of those counts.

    But I suspect you are not serious.

  47. @Blue Dover:

    Take off your bias glasses, read through again, and see if you can pick up the element that was identified as beta this time.

  48. @Incubus_Rising – That’s the commercial I was referring to. A real advertising gem from Turbo Tax. It’d be interesting to have a Turbo Tax commercial in which the wife finds out the husband has a child from a different woman, but at least they’ll get another deduction and that their taxes are free. Wonder how that’d go over with the women?

  49. Rollo says “they end up back at his place,” and people do not just “end up” somewhere except in science fiction — so I checked the original article and it glaringly fails to shed any light on what she was thinking or expecting when they walked from the meal back to his pad.

    Let’s see now … She initiated contact with him, supplied her number “at his suggestion,” traded text banter wirh him for a week, readily agreed to a date and went along to his place. So my question is, was she actually attracted to this (seemingly repellant looking) guy at some point — in which case he screwed it up royally — or was it just the idea of meeting a celebrity, C-List though he may be. He doesn’t look quite so bad in a tux, at least, and it seems that was her first glimpse of him. If there was never any desire he was just wasting his time and getting in deeper with every clumsy move.

    The original story sheds no light on this either — odd since it otherwise spares us little gory detail. It’s all like she was drifting through a dream, waking up only when push really came to shove. It’s HER own story but notice what she DOESN’T tell us. And the editors don’t care to drag it out of her.

  50. My thoughts:

    –Ansari was beta all the way through the encounter. He takes her out for drinks and dinner, then walking, then to his place.

    He then makes every beta mistake in the book: Going too fast, moving in before sexual attraction is there, misreading whether sexual attraction is there, completely misjudging comfort, trying to push through LMR and then doing so too fast and too hard, misreading her clear signs of discomfort, then pressuring for sex despite discomfort. He then negotiates for sex at least twice, backing off then pressing, and then doing so again.

    –“Grace” isn’t blameless here.

    Women should always understand this: Anytime you agree to be alone with a man during or after a date where the man has indicated clear sexual interest, that man is going to read your being alone with him as an indication of your sexual interest in him, and that you are ready for some sort of sexual contact. (Not that you have CONSENTED. That you are READY: that you are attracted, and that you are comfortable enough to be alone with him.)

    Look, girls: He didn’t invite you to his place to talk or watch TV. He invited you there because he wants to have sex with you.

    If you are not ready for sex, if you’re not sure, if you’re not attracted or comfortable enough, DO NOT be alone with him. Period. Most women understand this (I think, I hope).

    In my opinion women are agreeing to be alone with men like this because they think (1) the man is going to let her control absolutely every aspect of the encounter, from initiation to pacing to boundaries to completion, or (2) she’s not ready but wants the guy to like her, and it gets out of control and she doesn’t know what to do.

    Well, she should know what to do. Don’t be alone with him and fuck what he thinks about that. Or, be alone with him and don’t have sex. Or put a boundary down and enforce it hard. If the sexual contact is uncomfortable, say so, clearly, and don’t have ANY more sexual contact. You get up, you get dressed and you leave. You’ve got a cell phone. You’ve got money. (You should ALWAYS have a phone and cash on you, you strong independent woman, you.) Call a cab or an uber. Leave the area. At that point, if he continues, it’s a clear, definite case of sexual assault. And in today’s day and age, any man continuing past THAT point deserves whatever happens.

    “What we have here is failure to communicate.” In this case, when Grace said “whoa let’s relax for a sec, let’s chill”, it was at THAT POINT she should have stopped the encounter. She didn’t communicate clearly. When she said those words, what she was saying in femspeak was “I am not ready for this, I don’t want this, stop doing this”. The problem is her poor communication, speaking femspeak to a man not well versed in Game and, apparently, quite inexperienced with women.

    So, ladies, the way she stops it is to tell him to stop, clearly, in words. And then she ends the entire encounter by moving away, getting dressed, and saying “I’m leaving.” No ambiguity. No mixed signals. No remaining in the “zone of danger”. You say “stop”, you get dressed, you get your stuff, you call a cab, and you leave.

    Because if you don’t, if you tell him “relax” and then keep kissing without saying “no”, he is going to read this as “I’m not ready yet, but I might be soon. I just need a little time.” or “I’m not ready yet but I might be if you try a different approach. Try something else.”

    She, and women like her, are under the impression that they will get to control the entire encounter, and if it didn’t go well it’s like getting injured on an amusement park ride. Well, there’s a man involved in the encounter too, and he’s got an agenda of his own, and he has things he wants and expects. He’s fine if you don’t want it, but you have to say so, clearly.

  51. I can’t wait to see the picture of Grace, and “discover” that this sooper famous Hollywood Too Cool For School Artiste pulled – a bare 6.

  52. Single moms want what’s best, validation for assistance of their forcefully funded nest. Programs and payments are paramount conquest. “Look at how strong”, “She’s such a great mom!” Her son pees sitting down, his masculinity’s robbed. He has no clue how to shake, or what’s at stake – every time he acts beta for women he’s chased. Let alone around men that know what he is, mutable, steerable, introspectively dubious.

    There’s nowhere to hide your public perception, its best used in the form of deception. Facebook a friend to make that connection. The profile presented is often lamented as success or fame attached to a name that built a facade playing the game. There’s raised tension in all directions as men begin to fear their erections. Rigged elections, some partisan artisan sustained his pension. Too much attention, with zero correction. Women are simply victims of their own convention. Not to mention, laws that protect them are the ones that break men, repress and condemn them. Everyone wants to get even these days, nobody wants to do things the hard way and delay the payday, to walk away stronger than any judgment could ever repay.

    Every day it’s the same way, go into debt, don’t ask questions, or make waves. Let them play, let them lead you through. They have a degree so they know more than you. What a trope, that’s another looped noose in your rope. Let the emotions go, and respond with what you know. You’ll grow, you’ll stand out and show, you won’t slow – momentum is a movement, you don’t let go. Stand tall scream at the sky, bear chested with a twitch your eye. That twitch exists because problems persist from constant resistance of all sorts of “ists”. Feminist, Elitist, political defeatist, reverse racist IS racist… Just like Cleetus.

    There’s no excuse, for lies of abuse that plug the pipelines of justice and truth. In a world connected, we refuse to believe motive’s beneath every whim, or fleeting creed. From regretful whores expressed buyers remorse, to shameful resignation from title denigration. Leap before look, the criminal’s not the crook. The motive behind the mind that mentioned the crime does no time, that’s where we should look.

    Circumvent this movement with public dissonance, add another slight of hand from racial marches or feminists. You get the recipe for friend requests and candidates with Slavic influence to manifest a way to list a vote you’ll never know exists. Shills shelled with the guise of collective wisdom, try to make your outcome their exponential income. There’s only one way for all to fall, it’s not about the landing or how far we crawl. Down is easy, up is the challenge. Victory is no freebee, it takes effort to be valiant.

  53. We need to realize is that the space to learn game is getting smaller by the day and the penalties for screwing it up more severe.

    Which means that beginners need to focus more on learning calibration and knowing when to give comfort after a bold move.

  54. So, in people with low levels of physical stress the walls of the bones become thinner and more porous as protein is leached from them

    Bone protein is generally replenished when you are young…when you gain weight, their mass increases…but as we age, the replenishment mechanisms break down. Likely some overlap with muscles weakening as we age. Especially when not used enough.

  55. “Realize that western society has conditioned most of use to respond emotionally without thinking.”
    http://www.columbia.edu/~tdp4/RGP2007.pdf

    “There’s no excuse, for lies of abuse that plug the pipelines of justice and truth. In a world connected, we refuse to believe motive’s beneath every whim, or fleeting creed. From regretful whores expressed buyers remorse, to shameful resignation from title denigration. Leap before look, the criminal’s not the crook. The motive behind the mind that mentioned the crime does no time, that’s where we should look.
    https://digital.library.adelaide.edu.au/dspace/bitstream/2440/80580/8/02whole.pdf

    Circumvent this movement with public dissonance, add another slight of hand from racial marches or feminists. You get the recipe for friend requests and candidates with Slavic influence to manifest a way to list a vote you’ll never know exists. Shills shelled with the guise of collective wisdom, try to make your outcome their exponential income. There’s only one way for all to fall, it’s not about the landing or how far we crawl. Down is easy, up is the challenge. Victory is no freebee, it takes effort to be valiant.”
    http://www.klemens.sav.sk/fiusav/doc/organon/2009/1/38-61.pdf

  56. @Blaximus”

    Utah Phillips used to tell me, “Make sure your heroes are all dead. That way they can’t fuck it up.”

    Of course he’s dead now and crucifying the dead has become a popular participant sport . . .

  57. @Rugby thanks for the posts but dude…chill or type out your thoughts.

    When you post 4 videos in a post 1. I can’t possibly watch each one. 2. It clogs the feed making it hard to follow the thread and comment.

    It’s an important topic and there’s a lot that can be discussed. Let us discuss it and offer your point of view so we can absorb it.

    TL;dr: Appreciate the enthusiasm dude but please stop spamming us.

    Peace out…

  58. I’m an Old Married Guy. 20-odd years ago when I was doing this, women took responsibility in their own sexual interactions. Or at least it seemed that way. Women made it clear what they wanted, what they would do and what they wouldn’t do. It was always understood:

    “If I don’t agree to be alone with you, it’s because I’m not ready for some kind of sexual contact with you. I’m not attracted to you (enough) (yet). I’m not comfortable (enough)(yet). It’s not the right time for me. I’m on my period. I’m in a bad mood. I have too many other things on my mind.

    “If I am alone with you in my dorm room/apartment/house/hotel room, it’s because I am ready for some kind of sexual contact. In fact I’m more or less expecting one of us to initiate it, and I’m hoping you will be the man and take the lead on it. I might not always be clear about what I want, or what I will do, but I will be very clear about what I will not do. If I don’t want to do something, I will say so, clearly, and I reserve the right not to tell you why. I’ll also do what I need to do to make sure that things I don’t want, don’t happen, up to and including leaving/telling you to leave.”

    See, I think mature women can do this. Women always used to set boundaries like this. They aren’t doing it now because they don’t want to take responsibility and they want men to protect them.

    This part was much, much less understood, and for many Blue Pill guys, still isn’t:

    “I might have sex with you for any number of reasons. Maybe, hopefully, it’s because I’m attracted to you and think you’re hot and I really want sex with you and I don’t care where it goes. It might be because I’m attracted to you and think you’re hot and I really want sex with you and I want it to go further into a relationship. It might be because I’m in a relationship with you, and I might not be all that excited about it all the time but i’ll do it. Maybe it’s because you’re a High Status Guy/Really Rich Guy/Kind of Famous Guy and I want a taste of that status/money/fame. Sex with you will give me something to talk about with my friends/bragging rights. And I want some of your status/fame to rub off on me and I want you to give me some of your money/buy me stuff.

    “Maybe I’m just horny. Maybe i’m bored and nothing else is going on. Maybe I’m drunk/high/stoned and I just want to cap off a night of partying with some sex. Maybe I’m on the rebound and need a pickmeup after a bad fling or a breakup. Maybe I’m not feeling good about myself and I need some validation. Maybe I’m just looking to have a little fun.”

    “In all cases, I reserve the right not to tell you why I’ve decided to have sex with you, and in fact I probably won’t tell you why.”

  59. This dissection really illuminates the “What Went Wrong” of it.

    Suspect “Beta tells” started long before the apartment scene – which, of course, was/is just Aziz being himself.

  60. Gamer:

    Mature girls put their big girl britches on and speak up for what they want/don’t want.

  61. One key insight: At first women may be attracted by the external: wealth , celebrity, etc etc but without game and a clear understanding of calibration these external elements are a false front.

    If this post was read as a Field Report written exactly the same way but from his perspective we here would rip it to pieces.

  62. “Make sure your heroes are all dead. That way they can’t fuck it up.”

    Ha! And make sure they’re really dead.

    “Show me a hero and I’ll prove he’s a bum” – Gregory “Pappy” Boyington, WW II USMC fighter pilot who should know. A drunk and a brawler, he also shot down lots of Japanese planes while causing multiple problems for his chain of command.

    He was eventually himself shot down and captured. The Pentagon people thought he was dead so they awarded him the Medal of Honor. After the war he came back to life and ruined everything.

  63. Walawala
    Never my intention. “type out your thoughts”
    Here it goes…
    “It’s an important topic and there’s a lot that can be discussed. Let us discuss it and offer your point of view so we can absorb it.”
    Rebuild yourself… Make a new Version of yourself yesterday i did some improve comedy. One way in which i stop being shy and learn to appreciate myself. One of the roles i was doing was a homeless hobo who was getting poison from a women given me food. I played it out like a silent comedy. What i found really funny was using less words and more action’s in detailing the process of consent in how to play back with the audience who knows everything im doing is made up on the spot. I am very self aware of a lot of thing’s (trauma) Over sharing videos is a bad sign that has to stop . So thank you for the reminded as well as dr zipper. So yesterday i was in person and with strangers acting out my social madness with glee. Not so much with intensity but with Joy about the truth behind the words and actions embrace and no longer run away from. Something about it made me laugh myself to tears… Because i got about 20 people laughing with me…
    When you are part of a group… That group must destroy you. Not because it want’s to but because in nature everything is only an a scale that can sustain itself. If you fail at leading you will be destroyed. If you succeed at leading you will be tested in that leadership. Improve helps me respect the thing’s that I ONLY have control over… Even if i get destroyed by failing a Joke or a process of a scene. I learn so much about what i am afraid of. By embracing the group and letting them attack not just my flaws which i am still struggling with but my willingness to work with them… We all meet at 9pm over tuesday but not always the same people. It makes learning and life overall really amazing to be a part of.

  64. In tentative hookups, generating desire where there isn’t necessarily any, is all about the female ego. Calibration was definitely his mistake.

    By throwing himself at her and assuming the sale, he jumped the gun on validating her ego. She wouldn’t be there with him if she didn’t want something, and 99% of chicks aren’t above using sex.

    The key is her statement, all you guys are the same.

    Rollo talks frequently about betas who try to set themselves apart with beta game, make the chicks think ‘he’s different’.. it’s total loser game when they do this through white knighting or male feminism.. but it is master game when done in a situ like Aziz’.

    His play should have been as follows..

    1. *Recognize* that her desire was not high enough initially.

    2. Retrench and act distracted.. blase comments like oh you like the counters, cool, while staring at some piece of art, being distant, and distracted. Her reaction to this internally is “hey, wtf, why isn’t this guy throwing himself at me”.. they naturally want to win the ego validation game, and Aziz gave her that immediately, he was already conquered. If you withhold that, she will stop at nothing to break you, and validate that she owns you sexually. The more you feign disinterest or indifference, the more aggressive she will become.

    I once heard a chick talk about what it is that makes Russel Crowe attractive. She mentioned his sad, pained face, and commented that it’s a challenge that “I could put a smile on that face”.

    I’m not saying acting melancholy is good game, only that indifference and reservation can work to stoke attraction in a situation like this one, but of course you first have to recognize the situation.

    This is how you can generate genuine desire where there was none. Just the fact that she came home with him is enough to know she will fuck him. But if she’s a little on the fence, reverse psychology, flip the script, indifference game will get the job done. The beauty is, at that point, she actually WILL desire him, because she was placed in the position to be the aggressor.

    Had Aziz played it cool, and almost signaled to her that HE isn’t that easy, is a deeper man than just wanting to bang her, has more important things on his mind, is tired of chicks he brings back to his apartment being “all the same”, and is a little bit on the fence about whether to just call it a night.. well….

    she would not have tolerated that shit for long.. no sir. She would have demanded to win the prize.. that being him revealing his desire for HER. At that juncture, once she comes after him, she will conclude that he is either gay (if he declines), or sexually controllable by her, and a man. She MUST answer this question, because the third possibility (that he’s not attracted to her) is unthinkable.

  65. Way to go Rugby

    Perhaps start to talk about it and you might get through it and move towards putting it behind you..

  66. @Rugby good start. Actually improv comedy is a great way to develop both inner and external game. The ability to start and lead conversations with girls…riffing off them…snipping and reframing…all important skills…

    All important skills also related to calibration which is where game is truly critical to a wider interaction with the world around you.

    Self awareness is an under rated skill.

  67. Everything old is new again…women want to be able to provide mixed signals to men and then claim victimhood when the poor saps can’t decipher the uncrackable code. As soon as a woman starts this gaming BS, I’m out…the potential legal and other consequences are far too great to take stupid risks. After all, there’s a billion more of them out there, begging for attention.

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