Dangerous Times – Part 1

We live in a very dangerous age for men. The Blue Pill is even more of a liability today than it was in times past, because we live in an era that encourages men going all-in in their life’s investment in that conditioning.

Welcome to the #MeToo era. What we’re experiencing in our social environment today is a sea change in intersexual dynamics. The underlying fundamentals haven’t changed; our evolved natures and the latent purposes that are driven by them haven’t shifted, but the social dynamics and sexual acculturation that serve as checks and balances on them has drastically shifted, and in a very short time. While you could make an argument for an idealized free love era that took place right after the Sexual Revolution, now we find ourselves in a time that is so calculating in its design on intersexual social dynamics that it makes the late 60s seem romantically naive.

Back in October of 2014 I wrote a post called Yes Means Fear. This essay was a response to the, at that time new, Yes Means Yes sexual consent legislature that was being instituted on California university campuses. Dalrock had written similar essays regarding this latest form of sexual consent aptly titled The Sexual Revolution’s Arab Spring and Making the World Safe for Promiscuous Women. It may take you a while to review these posts, but please read these and skim the comments to get a gist of the conversations we had going on just three years ago.

One of these comments was the inimitable Deti:

At the end of the day, college women (soon all women) will be able to use the “lack of consent” law/policy as a weapon against undesirable men to do the following:

1. Weed out and eliminate unattractive men by chilling their conduct

2. Making even the most innocuous sexual conduct (i.e. approaching, asking for dates) so dangerous that the only men who will engage in the SMP are attractive men with proven successful sexual track records who will never get reported for doing anything “untoward”; thus ensuring that only attractive men will approach them for dates and sex

3. Giving women more power over the SMP so even unattractive women can use and select men for alpha fux; then have the sole ability to pursue and select men for beta bux when they see fit.

Open hypergamy. It will be “we women are going to do this, and if you want sex, you’ll do it our way, and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.”

Deti posted this comment on October 15th, 2014. The inter-blog debate then (at places like the now defunct Hooking Up Smart) was that Yes Means Yes was solely meant as a firm response to the supposed on-campus rape /sex assault panic that was being circulated in the mainstream media at the time. From the Red Pill perspective, we saw what potential this legislation represented to what would later become a societal scale institution.

Of course, they called us reactionaries, called us ‘rape apologists’ for simply pointing out all the ways this legislation would be expanded to a societal scale. They said we were exaggerating when we illustrated that, even for long-married couples, there would need to be a check list of approved acts of intimacy for each and every act performed, and men would need some form of hard evidence to prove that consent had indeed been granted.

The new California college/university sexual assault policy requires the following:

“An affirmative consent standard in the determination of whether consent was given by both parties to sexual activity. “Affirmative consent” means affirmative, conscious, and voluntary agreement to engage in sexual activity. It is the responsibility of each person involved in the sexual activity to ensure that he or she has the affirmative consent of the other or others to engage in the sexual activity. Lack of protest or resistance does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent. Affirmative consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual activity and can be revoked at any time. The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of past sexual relations between them, should never by itself be assumed to be an indicator of consent.”

There was sex, which is clearly “sexual activity.” The question then becomes whether there was “affirmative consent”. In order for there not be consent, the woman would have had to show affirmative conscious and voluntary agreement to engage in sex with the man. It is the man’s responsibility to make sure he had that consent. She had to manifest, verbally or nonverbally, consent to it.

Silence doesn’t mean consent. Her not resisting or saying “no, please stop” doesn’t constitute “affirmative consent”. So really, the only way to make sure that consent is present is for the man to continue asking her throughout the encounter: “Is this OK? Can I keep doing this? Is this thrust OK with you? Is THIS thrust OK? Can I thrust again? How about this one? Can I keep going? Do you want me to stop?”

If that did NOT happen, if the man did not get EXPRESS, VERBAL statements that he could continue, then yes, there was sexual assault.

The way this plays out in situations like this is that verbal consent is REQUIRED. She cannot manifest “ongoing” “affirmative consent” any other way. That’s because of the way the law is written. Lack of protest is not consent. Lack of resistance is not consent. Silence is not consent. Thus, a wife, just lying there, starfishing it, giving duty sex to her husband, is putting him in jeopardy, because she is not manifesting “ongoing” “affirmative consent”.

All of that they said was ridiculous. Women would never be so petty as to make a man ask permission for, nor hold him accountable for, sex that she wanted to have with him. Furthermore, this ruling was only meant to curb campus assault; any extrapolating to a larger societal norm, we were told, was just us Red Pill men and their insecurities about the intentions of women and sex. If we’d Just Get It we’ll have no problems.

We were told it was limited to penis-in-vagina sex only. We were told it was just in cases of “drunken sex”. All of these proved false. This law was intended to govern, regulate and control every single sexual interaction between a man and a woman. This law is intended to require a man to get express consent at every single step of the process, from initial touch to banging. This law is intended to chill all male sexual conduct. This law by its very terms requires express consent for every sexual act, starting with kino.

The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality – Heartiste

A World of Fear

When I wrote Yes Means Fear (also 3 years ago) it was initially in response to an article by Ezra Klein, Yes Means Yes is a terrible law, and I support it completely. This reads through as bad as any gender related article on Vox, but Klein’s salient point was summed up in one sentence.

To work, “Yes Means Yes” needs to create a world where men are afraid.

I’m reasonably sure Ezra was aware of the larger scope – larger than just California college campuses – that his giddy Beta love of a world where men would be afraid to so much as approach a woman would lead to. But now we find ourselves here in his idealized sexual marketplace founded on men fearing to interact with women at the risk of losing everything. At the risk of being Zeroed Out. Today, just three years later, we’re experiencing the #metoo moral panic based exactly in the fear Ezra said would serve us so well. Ezra must be proud that the gold rush hysteria of sexual misconduct allegations any and every woman (who ‘might’ have ever felt an accidental hip brush 50 years ago) feels entitled to is the result of this cleansing fear he loved so much. Unless he’s defending allegations himself of course.

If you go before the college board and say that the woman accusing you of assault simply doesn’t remember that she said yes because she was so drunk, then you’ve already lost.

Gone is the college board now in favor of the popular court of social justice – the court that condemns a man for even the suspicion of an allegation of sexual misconduct. Gone too is part of women’s remembering the pretense of a sexual encounter. Whether a woman was drunk and doesn’t remember the details, or if she conveniently recalls them 40-50 years after the fact is immaterial. The operative point is that we always believe any and every allegation of rape or misconduct a woman brings forward.

Articles of Belief

Shortly after I wrote Yes Means Fear I wrote Hysteria, an essay intended to address the disgraceful (now thoroughly proven) UVA fraternity rape hoax story written by Sabrina Erdley and published by a complicit Rolling Stone Magazine. Just daring to question the validity of so outrageous a rape account was heresy to women back then. Bear in mind this took place after the Yes Means Yes consent ruling in California. At this time, just to question the story of a woman’s rape account was enough to earn you the title of ‘rape apologist’. But moreover, we were popularly expected to repeat this mantra and always accept a woman’s account as infallibly true:

“No matter what Jackie said, we should automatically believe rape claims.” http://t.co/3HFlXR7jme True insanity pic.twitter.com/AFXIyn32FS

This was the sentiment (now deleted) tweeted by Zerlina Maxwell on December 6th, 2014. Since then this meme that anything a woman had to say about sexual assault must be believed by default has snowballed into a default belief that anything a woman alleges against a man must also be believed. Whereas a male college student might stand in front of his kangaroo court at a university, now men must stand in front of the kangaroo court of public opinion where a woman’s word outweighs all pretense of due process. That college kid is now the average man who must prove his innocence because if a woman alleges it due process is reversed.

What we’ve witnessed in just 3 years is the systematic removal of a man’s right to habeas corpus with regard to women’s allegations.

And I expect that this removal will extend to much more than just women’s believability in regard to sexual misconduct. Imagine a culture where it’s expected that anything a woman accuses her ex of is to be believed in divorce proceedings.

We’re now seeing exactly what myself, Deti, Dalrock and countless other Red Pill bloggers and commenters predicted would happen, but it’s also so much more that what we could see coming. In just 3 years Yes Means Yes moved off the campus and into mainstream culture; a culture predicated on female social primacy. In a feminine-primary social order even “affirmative consent” isn’t enough – “enthusiastic consent” must now be established and maintained. That “enthusiastic consent” is a new ambiguously defined terminology, and part of the larger narrative meant to further confuse and instill fear in men.

Last week Novaseeker, once again, had a terrific comment that illustrates what consent has come to today.

Yep, that’s the newest goalpost move.

We went from No means No (which meant that if she doesn’t say no, it’s on … which pretty much is the basic human mating script) to “affirmative consent” (“may I kiss you now” … “may I lick your breast now?”, etc., per the “rules” required before any physical contact *and* at “each stage of escalation”). Very few people actually follow affirmative consent, as we know, but it’s the rule at most colleges and universities. It isn’t the legal rule for rape, in terms of determining what was “consensual”, currently, but the FI is working on that, believe me.

Now, we have the goalposts moving even further along, from “affirmative consent” to “enthusiastic consent” — which means that if her consent is even verbally expressed, but isn’t clearly enthusiastic, then it isn’t “reliable as consent” because it could be the result of “pressure”, and if the consent “was real, it would be expressed enthusiastically, because when people really are consenting to sex, they’re always enthusiastic about it”. So essentially the standard they are pushing now (and which is getting rolled out on campuses right now) is that if the girl isn’t jumping your bones and begging for your cock, it’s rape/assault. Of course, again, not the legal standard, but that doesn’t matter that much — as we can all see what is happening right now is that the legal standard is being marginalized, because people can be destroyed in our media saturated environment without any involvement of the legal system at all, and the standards that apply in that extra-legal environment are the ones that the FI wants to apply, whether the legal system applies them or not.

There are a few ways to look at this, but one obvious one is that this is a way for the FI to tighten the screws on betas. Very little sex that betas have, if any, is “enthusiastic consent sex”. Everyone knows this. Under this standard, basically all sex with betas is rape. That’s the intention.

And thus we come full circle to the latent purpose of legislating Hypergamy that I’ve continually repeated in many essays. It is Roissy’s maxim of feminism: The end goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality.

Recently I found myself in a Twitter war on a story by CBS Los Angeles asking whether it was still OK for men to hug women. I used the cartoon I posted in The Creep 2 to illustrate my bigger point:

And of course the feminist tropes (from men and women) and the point & sputter ad hominem attacks flowed from there. However, this rage is precisely what I would expect from women who are now coming into a default expectation (entitlement) of all men to ‘Just Get It‘.

Only in this instance it is Blue Pill, Beta men who should know better than to approach a woman below their (self-perceived) sexual market value. Those men, the lesser men that her social media overinflated sense of SMV has convinced her are beneath her attraction floor should ‘just get it’ that they shouldn’t be flirtatious or even too friendly with her or risk the punishment of an allegation that might be his zeroing out. The Beta man who doesn’t ‘get it’ is an insult to her self-worth and deserving of an optimized Hypergamy.

In the next post I’ll be exploring the ramifications of the “enthusiastic consent” concept and how even consensual-but-unwanted sex and “duty sex” will be the next chapter in marital rape. I’ll also be detailing the the “Cat Persons” story that’s been making the rounds this week.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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Patrol, you clinched the looks discussion with the gif.

wala, great work on your projects

EI, I like your approach to BP guys. Don’t try to Red Pill them until they need it. Use them as your orbiters until they need the Red Pill.

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AMOG Battle!!!: Man (game) vs Lion (looks):

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@Walawala “Hanging with RP dudes would be great it’s just I don’t know any. They simply don’t exist here. Most of the guys I know are pussies. “Friends” of mine showed themselves to be beta orbiter fuckwits.” Lol. Better than I said it. I’m willing to work with what I can get. Perhaps you’ve noticed it’s easier to make buddies on the fly while out, they’ll follow along, enjoy your company. They’ll talk Alpha until they receive blowback, sober up or must lean out. They can’t imagine fearlessness. If I’ve learned anything on this journey, I’ve had a habit investing… Read more »

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“Don’t try to Red Pill them until they need it. Use them as your orbiters until they need the Red Pill.”

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@one day in the life of Anonymous Realtor: Apologies for my imprecision, phone-typing at midnight. When I said “we Russians don’t save shit”, I meant Russians won’t save western civilization, or Europe, or Christianity, or the Caucasoid genetic strain. We’ll say we will. We want you all to believe us saying we will. But we won’t. Otherwise you are correct: generally speaking we do save shit, as in gear, scraps, junk, clothes, tank parts, Kalashnikov fragments, leftover uranium, whatever, you have to do that, you never can be sure what you’ll need it for or what you can trade it… Read more »

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“Great Russians look down their noses at everyone else.”

As the “Baroness” mother of a former associate was prone to say, “Phhhhhhhbt! Minsk Pinsk.”

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What do Russians do best?

Kill other Russians.

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Powerful shit

“The paradox of masks is that though they are “artificial,” they can bring out our truest self — the self which we not only feel ourselves to be, but that which we desire ourselves to be. Our best self. What is more inspiring than the fact that our feelings are not our destiny — that we may feel weak, lazy, and cowardly, but make ourselves into men of strength, conviction, and courage?”

https://www.artofmanliness.com/2017/12/04/celebrate-masks-masculinity/

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@ EhIntellect Once again, an intelligent, considered response. I appreciate this. I certainly don’t want to come off as arrogant as all knowing, ’cause i’m certainly not that. I guess at this stage of life i have a greater insight into who i am & how the world works, but i’m far from content or satisfied. I have the lifestyle thing down pat pretty well, but that’s been at the expense of the economic side of things. So that’s getting more focus now. I agree that there are many ways to actualize ourselves as men. Chopping wood is certainly very… Read more »

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Alpha (enthusiatic) consent, Beta (you just broke the law) discontent

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“men of strength, conviction, and courage” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17_ImViPryQ “Great that you get to ride with your sons, something i’ll never be able to do. Credit to you, man. But that’s how it’s unfolded for me and now i feel too old to have a kid, not to mention the current lack of a suitable partner. So i just continue to set goals, make music and improve my property, mind and body. What else can we do? I don’t want to get old, lonely & grumpy like some men i know, but some hot female company would go down well this summer… Read more »

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@Eh Intellect, Where I live the women are more Red Pill. They immediately get that when I game them I want to fuck them. From there they’ll either go along or blow me off.

The guys I know are basically fakes, White Knights, betas or Blue Pill apologists who try to better themselves by putting me down.

I had to cut two guys out who crossed the line. But 2018 is a new year, live and learn right.

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“now i feel too old to have a kid, not to mention the current lack of a suitable partner. So i just continue to set goals, make music and improve my property, mind and body. What else can we do?” SSFox, RP increases your options doesn’t it? Increasing your value decreases your need for external validation, true. That’s chick crack. As RP calculus goes, you’ve never been more attractive to ALL women. Blax commented recently at a party his older guys group were chased by the young women. This is not an aberrancy, it is hypergamy functioning by design. Masculinity… Read more »

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“Self improvement is self discipline. A lot of guys get hung up at this stage. In their minds women are harder to control and men dither, rationalize why they’re not moving on and defeating that final insecurity of dominating women. Women want domination. Not necessarily S&M, of course, but a guy who mentally controls her natural lability, that same energy force that requires hypergamy to bang only the best she can get. Sentient: Fuck her mind and then you’ll fuck her body. Shit tests, comfort testing, rejection, other flaky feminine behavior is a pain, but no more a pain than… Read more »

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Chopping wood is certainly very honest work! No doubt. One of the more satisfying things I do is chop firewood. I had to have my ash trees all cut down in my yard over the past ten years or so and ended up with ten years of so of firewood. Taught my son how handle an axe at the age of 12 and he enjoyed it too. Was funny to hear the reaction of women at work when I shared that about my son using an axe at that age. Typical freaking out. Another benefit to chopping wood is it… Read more »

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Messed up my use of italics up there. Wish we could edit our comments. Silver fox wrote this:
Chopping wood is certainly very honest work!

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@walawala

“Where I live the women are more Red Pill.”

AND…women by design are BP.

IMO, women function as designed as opposed to men, who have been acculturated to subdue their masculinity. The 80/20 Beta/Alpha is ratio hard wired. What’s changed is our definitions of sex roles.

Goalposts are moving against, not all, but most men.

RP is similar to running the West Coast offense in its infancy. PUA had its day but is being overtaken as a approach.

We’re standing athwart recent history, aren’t we? It’s fun winning.

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@ Roused

Thank you. I’ve not read that post before.

If I’d read it a year ago, I’d might have saved me time, though my lot would be roughly the same. I’d of walked away from my Beta relationships sooner.

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Bono:

“I think music has gotten very girly. And there are some good things about that, but hip-hop is the only place for young male anger at the moment – and that’s not good.”

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“I think music has gotten very girly”

No reason to listen to that shit.

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Bono’s getting a lot of push-back in the mainstream media for those statements. Which he generated in a masculine Red Pill rock-star kind of way. The Billboard Top 100 songs (pop and pop rock) of each year have been 80% Blue Pill in nature for the last 50 years. So the media need to protect their own.

We all know what is going on here. But the logic that critics are criticizing him for is just juvenile.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bono-rolling-stone-girly-rock-n-roll-hop-hop-masculine-never-existed-a8131701.html

https://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/article/43q37n/big-dumb-bono-says-that-music-has-become-very-girly

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“But we should take a moment to say that this “girly” comment isn’t a miniature slip of the tongue—it’s a colossally ignorant statement…”

Catching flak? Then you’re over the target.

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@Wala, Eh, and Roused. “If you’re not losing friends you’re not growing up.” “Sometimes you have to un-follow people in real life.” “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” —Winston Churchill A couple years into my Red Pill Reconstruction when I didn’t have as much traction (hopping over the line from social incompetent incompetence to conscious incompetence and then solid conscious social competence I would unconsciously and consciously battle blue pill guys and blue pill worlds. It was an anger and bargaining phase. I’d sub-communicate that I was talking about Fight Club.… Read more »

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Shit.

Umm, Sorry? for bolding the whole fucking daily motivational. Purely unintentional.

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Some of the Bono butthurt is no doubt due to the inconvenient truth that Bono is right. Rock and roll is rage, it always was. and, as Mark Shipper said, it is also the biggest joke ever perpetrated on modern culture. Those who don’t know it’s a joke are the butts of the joke. Meditate on those zen statements. Most top 40 and certainly “alt-nation” type rock/pop is very girly, i.e., fempowered, getting jiggy, SIW, or emo puking. Very little rage. Rage doesn’t sell to girls, who do most of the pop music streaming anyway and the market caters to… Read more »

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@Rugby That Stoicism by TheLastChance/TheEffectiveMan is good stuff. I want to point out that that stuff about Stoicism is described in the abstract. The book Reality Transurfing by Vadim Zeland has concrete actionable advice on how to get that mindset. Zeland is vague on how he wrote the book. He tries to say it came to him in lucid dreams from ancient sources. Most likely that same sources that those reddit essays came from. Zeland turns the why’s of being Stoic into how to live and succeed with a Stoic mindset. He distilled a lot of great long-standing wisdom into… Read more »

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@ SJF “Turns out I had a discussion with him much later and he was in a Blue Pill funk with a dead-like bedroom..” Well handled. Big difference living high value, established frame vs. building frame. Established frame will engender a comfort test (I’m sorry I didn’t mateguard). Weaker frame engenders shit testing i.e. no big deals, what are you going to do, it’s not a big deal, you two fight. IMO, no test>comfort test>shit test I’ve known tipsy confident same age and younger guys to hit on my wife behind my back, learned to blow it off. I took… Read more »

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Transurfing helped me consolidate a lot of personality traits I naturally preferred but was playing the field elsewhere for fun.

It helped my intermarriage communication too as it touches on universal problems, their solutions. Talking heart and mind alignment is woo-woo gold. Fastest way to a bang yet, if you can stomach it.

Mostly, I needed to stop resisting the world, focus on numero uno and play by nature’s game. Easier that way and corresponds to RP mindset.

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Eh, There’s a part of me that wants to embarrass them with some cocky douchebag antics, but that’s perhaps butthurt vestigial Beta…perhaps greedy what’s-mine-and-yours-is-mine Alpha. I’ve found a few times doing that it was funny for me, my twisted sense of humor to punish guys I thought were weaker and lacked good game. But…in retrospect it was lame and I don’t think it made me look attractive to my female date/gf/wife. If the date/gf/wife were around when it happened or they hear about it later I’ve noticed them expressing I was going to far or “being mean.” I don’t care… Read more »

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Different scenario SJF – Years ago, I was attending a birthday party with my wife, who was then my girlfriend. A guy at the party had been carrying a torch for the gf for years. He was relentlessly hitting on her throughout the duration of the festivities, all while looking at me hard and laughing. Other attendees at the party were trying to get him to chill out, girlfriend repeatedly told him to fuck off, and yet, he persisted. So I told the gf that we should leave before something awful happened. Lol. As we were walking to the car,… Read more »

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Blax

“See, it’s mostly not about the woman when a man knows of your existence and decides that he’s just gonna bypass the fuck out of you”

Truth. Well handled… Lol.

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” See, it’s mostly not about the woman when a man knows of your existence and decides that he’s just gonna bypass the fuck out of you because… well… I don’t really know what goes through guy’s heads when they do such things. But I see these things as tests, and I’ve studied very hard and long to make sure I can pass these tests.” I agree with Sentient. Excellently explained Blaximus. See?, you can teach well as a Natural recalling all those things you did well while putting in the earlier hard work. Excellent in fact. This goes in… Read more »

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“I didn’t need to mimic… ”

Picking a PUA fight?

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…fucking HTML codes..

At least my orzo with sweet Italian sausage, baby spinach and Parmesan cheese and jarred hot PeppaDew peppers and a side of caponata turned out good, despite the use of nightshade vegetables (pepper and eggplant).

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“I didn’t need to mimic… ” Picking a PUA fight? Not at all. Not in the slightest. Just a testament to Knowing Myself, enhancing strengths, minimizing weaknesses and trying to integrate my inferior functions along the way. I couldn’t have done MRP game without the input of PUA game insights into Red Pill. Game changes, and you can make up the rules as you go along. PUA game is reaching a breaking point, but that doesn’t disqualify the gains that were made in the field in the last 15 years. I have nothing bad to say about PUA. Except for… Read more »

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I think my keyboard is defective. Maybe I’ve been beating on it too much. Gosh darn codes, after all the brackets and slashes I’ve put down over the last couple years. That’s three in a row. Good night moon.

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The burden of performance explained:

One day of effort is one day of bliss; One day of sloth is a hundred years of regret.

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My son hasn’t had any “oh shit!” moments in the past year to speak of. But every one previously in his masculine male development (and he’s had his share) has been a priceless learning experience for him as a ‘artist, don’t-box-me-in type’. His mother cringed at each one, but I took it Stoically. He got to higher masculine levels with those “oh shit!” moments. And he’s on more on solid footing now. (With not hardly being a moron. He’s sharp and alive in life. I’m proud of him. Good thing my wife was there during my drunk captain years. I’m… Read more »

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Rollo, have you considered exploring any WordPress plugins that allow for a preview of a comment before its posted? The ability to go back and edit would be better, but at least a preview would help us.

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Those oh shit moments are golden teachers. Obviously the fewer of them the better, but I can think of several oh shit moments in my red pill education that helped me wake the fuck up.

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Danger and

play

Family

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Trauma

Community

Guilt Shame anxiety

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“Mostly, I needed to stop resisting the world, focus on numero uno and play by nature’s game. Easier that way and corresponds to RP mindset.”
Stop resisting the world… Yeah approach and speak to women… Don’t hide your intention’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR3Wu2BTXRE

Create something from failure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKnp6bh8d6A

Embrace the truth of nature… explore fail create

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPkvCca-5lk

Love and gratitude

Pair bonding and trial

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@Roused “Those oh shit moments are golden teachers. Obviously the fewer of them the better, but I can think of several oh shit moments in my red pill education that helped me wake the fuck up.” Now compare this statement to a quote of Churchill I like: ‘Success is the ability to move from one failure to another without loss of enthusiasm.’ In a similar vein I have reflected upon concepts like ‘bravery’, ‘courage’, ‘resolve’ or ‘loyality’ to only mention a few (or alpha and beta for that matter). These words are all labels we apply to masculine behaviour we… Read more »

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Good morning Albert, how are you? Consider that most children today are raised by the village at large, wether or not their parents are together. This being the case, Masculine heroes are downplayed across the board. While a boy raised by a single mother may be more concerned with outcome than process, the two are intertwined to the point that without one you can’t have the other. We learn to follow certain process to achieve certain outcome. Men are more inclined to moral process than women. Also consider that the boy raised by the single mother is more likely to… Read more »

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Been watching “Peaky Blinders” on Netflix. Totally red-pill, but from another era. Especially liked a scene in season 2 where a woman would rather share an alpha (Tommy) rather than lose him. Actor Cillian Murphy does a marvelous job but as yet I’m not sure if he’ll get Beta’ed later on. Recommended as red-pill material.

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Also consider that the boy raised by the single mother is more likely to run feral, be more of a natural and seek out male mentors.
This can go either way. I have yet to see this though in any of the sons of single mothers I’ve dated or even my own step-brother. Maybe my sampling is too small but they’ve all been pussies. Then again, most young men these days are pussies.

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‘I wasn’t smart enough’, ‘the bitch is crazy’ or ‘I have [insert mental illness]’. None, ever says: ‘I should work harder’, ‘i made this misstake’ or ‘i didnt try hard enough’. One big difference I find between RP and BP thinking is the focus on process vs. outcome. No doubt being a result of being raised in a female primary thought frame. Guess, what if you have a pussy that shit works (to an extend, dosen’t make you in a pleasant individual though). However, what it doesn’t teach you is perseverance. So to connect back to the initial comment by… Read more »

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DE “This can go either way. I have yet to see this though in any of the sons of single mothers I’ve dated or even my own step-brother. Maybe my sampling is too small but they’ve all been pussies. Then again, most young men these days are pussies.” True enough,it can go either way. Two things. 1, Being a natural doesn’t necsesarily mean a tough guy, rather a guy that understands female nature, and isn’t that concerned with process. 2, A boy raised by a single mother will almost always be at odds with her male suitors. “Most young men… Read more »

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“Then again, most young men these days are pussies.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-tJ5erxh4Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuoay8K8Vz4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifcXjN2Q0i4

“Being afraid of failure will cost you your job ( and everything else) faster than failing. Take calculated risks, then recalculate and try again.”
Failure is good as long as long sa it not the same thing the same time…

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@boulderhead, good afternoon (here). Just came out of the sauna, at the cabin by the lake and the GF is cooking some food (naked). So I really can’t complain. In regard to your statement: “While a boy raised by a single mother may be more concerned with outcome than process, the two are intertwined to the point that without one you can’t have the other.” I can only concur, obviously the outcome and the process are connected, as you can’t have one without the other. However, let’s turn this BP mentality of staring yourself blind at the outcome around and… Read more »

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Albert things are going well, thanks for asking. Sure two boys from the same family can grow up to be exact opposites in this context. “However, due to their need of having to figure this shit out themselves they usually are not very apt at cooperating with other strong willed men, which they have learned from their ‘dear mothers’ are assholes.” Not always the case, This non cooperation with masculine males,from my experience is more due to the village at large. The two opposite boys raised by a single mother, being one will seek out strong mentors while the other… Read more »

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P.S. I do not intend to shit on men that were raised by single mothers, neither am I laying all the blaming on these single mothers. However, when single motherhood produces so many adverse life impacts on an individuals life, I think it is really important to understand the process of why this is happening. I think Freud was right in identifying anger and sexuality as two prime driving forces of human psychology and soceital drive (allthough their are other things I disagree with). However, where he failed was to extrapolate these trends to wider societal trends. Not so much… Read more »

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The two opposite boys raised by a single mother,

Should read same single mother.

Agreed not to blame the boys or their parents,rather the village is my point.

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What you thought you went to bed with.

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What you wake up with!

http://image.nola.com/home/nola-media/width600/img/crime_impact/photo/lindy-lou-layman-0f8e277eaa256167.jpg

Lindy Lou Layman (not a Tom Wolfe character btw) goes nutz…

http://heavy.com/news/2017/12/lindy-lou-layman-photos-dallas-tony-buzbee-anthony/

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Albert,

“All the BP people want instant gratification”

or settle for less.

“I think in today’s culture there are too few moments, where people can (safely) fail and it not ends up completely destroying their life.”

True in part, key holders are herding us. False in part, RP success isn’t BP success. Different metrics.

RP success in a BP world is often born of creative destruction.

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” ‘no big deal, try better next time’. Now later in life I find myself more and more being grateful for this (masculine) internalized attitude of never quitting.”

Self encouragement…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCnDJoSNJj0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX4b5vgPDyM

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Re: single mothers Even progressives at Slate admit single motherhood is worse for all involved, though their reasoning protects the FI. Single Moms don’t have a dutiful chore-playing Beta provider. “Why is this? Single mothers, even from wealthier families, have less time. They are less likely to be able to monitor their kids. They do not have a partner who can relieve them when they are tired or frustrated or angry with their kids. This isn’t just a question of taking kids to the array of pampered extracurricular activities that many affluent, two-parent families turn to; it’s about the ways… Read more »

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@boulderhead “Agreed not to blame the boys or their parents,rather the village is my point.” I think this is a very difficult semantical point here, because what is society (i.e. the village) if not a collection of individuals? However, where I do agree is that blaming individuals for all ills misses the point. Individuals just try to make due with what they have, for example one big game changer was the birth control pill https://youtu.be/d3fvs3bRPng Other technological changes on a comparable scale are: the invention of the automobile, automatic weapons, nuclear bombs, the jet engine, the internet, smart phones, tinder… Read more »

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“RP success in a BP world is often born of creative destruction.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFt6XRyQhD8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnZEm6tEDk0

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From the blaximus Broken Record archive: learn to read women’s makeup. Millions of 6’s and 7’s out in the wild masquerading as 8’s and 9’s. Fake eyelashes, eyebrow contouring and widening ( new thing ) hair extensions/coloring/highlighting, eye liner and shadow ( make eyes ” pop ” and appear bigger and brighter ), and application of foundation and contouring of facial makeup to create higher appearing cheek bones, narrow wider noses and drop weight from the face. It’s becoming a very standardized art form, with thousands of tutorials on YouTube ( even my daughter has a bunch…). But it’s easily… Read more »

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I think, the next revolution in human civilisation progress will stem from men learning to communicate with men as brothers and not enemies. That won’t happen, because men are always, always, always competitors first, especially when it comes to sexual access. This is precisely why, as things in other areas have become less overtly competitive and the sexual arena has become more free, the competition among men has become more intense and severe, so much so that many men simply opt out of the competition altogether (though they can’t opt out of the results of opting out … they lose… Read more »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bUfdgz0Tx8
“I am merely extrapolating what happens to the village when the majority of men do not overcome their demons and that anger and frustration is channelled into counterproductive ways…. historically that meant bloodshed, a lot of bloodshed…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Z0KIhzydk

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Women can raise children from birth through adulthood. Usually the kids will not die from parental neglect during that timeframe.

Women cannot properly raise their sons into a vibrant and strong version of masculine maleness. Chicks lack the proper tools, hormones and insight.

To properly acclimate a female child, a strong father ( or male father figure ) must be present.

See the pattern?

One of the strongest pillars of the destruction of society is the lessening and subjugation of Fathers as active participating heads of households, sans any form of outside interference.

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From the blaximus Broken Record archive: learn to read women’s makeup. Yes! This is odd, though — I mean I’d think anyone who has lived with a woman would know this clearly because we see the difference between the war paint look at the morning getting out of bed no makeup look every day. I guess with guys who have never lived with a woman or who have never had a woman sleep over or something like that. It’s the same with celebs. You always have to look at both the pro shoot pics and the candid “street makeup” pics… Read more »

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Yeah approach and speak to women… Don’t hide your intention’s

Communicate that you’re sexual…you’re gonna get laid with somebody tonight…let girls think they have a shot…make sure they don’t think they have a lock on your interest…don’t be a rifle, be a shotgun…make girls compete for your favors…that’s what the hottest guys do

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@Novaseeker I understand you point, and I grant you that its a valid criticism. Hence me labelling it as revolutionary, as it is against the ‘nature’ of men (btw so was settling and starting to farm grain). As such, I grant you that the odds are stacked against it. However, you have the causality back to front when you write: “Women will always sort men according to a hierarchy so that they can determine which males are worthy of sexual access, and because of this men will compete with each other to get to the higher positions in that hierarchy… Read more »

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The initial hierarchy women order men after is contingent upon the ways in which men compete. If men decide that society is right wing authoritarian women will swoon for Herr Führer, if society becomes left leaning inclined they swoon for the socialist college professor. I agree but the point is that there will always be competition among men, in terms of men jockeying for position in the hierarchy of male competition. That essentially prohibits brotherhood from forming in a meaningful way. Brotherhood type of thing persists in limited contexts (sports teams, military units) but that isn’t universal, it’s tribal and… Read more »

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Blax’s Single-Mommies-Can’t-Raise-Kids-Properly-By-Themselves Broken Record Having dads at home like Jim Anderson in “Father Knows Best” is the best no doubt. Agree with Blax about that. There are things that can be done. Mother Gamer and Grandma Gamer and Grandpa did a lot with Papa Gamer absent. Mother Gamer: “Play the field” Grandma Gamer: Skirts are like buses. There’ll be another one along in ten minutes. Grandpa tested me all the time and showed me how men interact. He worked on his own car and had his tools and worked on stuff. He chased Grandma up the stairs as she giggled.… Read more »

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“Women cannot properly raise their sons into a vibrant and strong version of masculine maleness.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71yQMmyVQAc
“make girls compete for your favors…that’s what the hottest guys do”

Albert
Take care of yourself let me know how your life unfolds.

Novaseeker
“But I personally don’t see most guys adopting game and behaving like brothers anytime in the relevant future.”

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“…it’s tribal and aligned against other groups of men pitting themselves against each other in … competition! We are competitive fundamentally not brotherhood fundamentally. Could a fundamental revolution change that?“ Watched a ISIS video long ago. Young “fighters” sitting around bragging exploits, yelling “Where’s my Yazidi girl?” Laughingly believing great days were ahead. They were philosophically as tribal as it gets culturally and women divested of their FI. Those chumps thought the women were spoils. There were never enough to go around, women were summarily commoditized and auctioned to the highest bidder. The 80% remained such. I’d say they were… Read more »

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Society is a collection of individuals, of average intelligence. In its current form the “collection” is opositionally fractionalized. Technological advances tend to exacerbate the oposition by giving voice to the inexperienced to push their own agenda. ‘What politics and culture’ are attempting to do is fulfill their individual agendas. people are told whom is to blame according to their own confirmation biased agendas. “The problem that arises socially now is that people want an easy bogeyman to blame, a quick fix to a complex problem and hence its the fault of the: ‘juice’, ‘menz’, ‘libtards’, Trump, alt right etc.” I… Read more »

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@Blax

That is why they called it putting on war paint, she is laying her ambush with a powder puff.

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“What fascinated me is, is that this type of technological progress causing social upheaval is nothing new.”

Float glass and such were non-upheaval worthwhile technological progress. FB? Hell no and we pretend it has value anyways.

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It’s the same with celebs. You always have to look at both the pro shoot pics and the candid “street makeup” pics to see what you are really dealing with (a good case in point here is Amber Heard — a very attractive woman, no doubt, but her pro look is truly special, and all makeup, whereas her normal/street look is still attractive — she has a fine physique after all — but nothing at all like the pro look — as is the case with *all* women). My ex-wife is a top-tier makeup artist so I’ve seen lots of… Read more »

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@ Novaseeker & Morpheus Lol, this is what I’ve been preaching here for years, because I believe that way too many men get thrown by appearances without understanding what they are really looking at. They will see 2 7’s , one made up and one not, and they will swear that the made up 7 is a 9. Nova’s right that you really get to see it when you live with a woman. I only advocate for men understanding the whole war paint phenomenon so that you don’t get snookered. There’s a pretty substantial difference between the two pics sentient… Read more »

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@novaseeker & boulderhead “pipedream” ‘Crito, we owe a rooster to Asclepius.’ I am well aware what awaits people, who dream of the betterment of man(kind). However, every person needs a telos so why not aim high? The thing that I am working on, is finding rules of communication, how can individuals communicate without falling prey to animosity or violence. The best template of such (male to male) communication patterns I have found so far, is the scientific ethos. Which would make sense, in what context these developed, meaning in written communication between early Enlightenment thinkers. Here are 5 examples of… Read more »

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@Albert

Who knows, maybe your five or six step plan of coms will work?

If we have censoring and only communicate online that is.

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I gots ta git me some a dose gummy bear implants to chew on. LOL

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” With snarky remarks, ridiculing, name calling, belittling or any other type of behaviour of invalidating the opponent nothing constructive is added to the argument.”

To wit: I’ve petitioned, now on 6 months, mind you, that Robert’s Rules of Order be instituted to control raucous uncouth debate in these chambers.

I say, solemn gentlemen, commentary of late shabbily respects the sanctity of measured productive debate!

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“I say, solemn gentlemen, commentary of late shabbily respects the sanctity of measured productive debate!”

On the contrary things are going quite smoothly as of late. In comparison to the normal scrims,old chap.

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Point of order!

Esteemed colleague of mountainous habitat, I have not yielded.

Ahem.

In effort to promote orderly commentary, I nominate SJF TRM parliamentarian.

Do I have a second?

boulderhead
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Noble city dweller.

Your choice for parliamentarian is deemed acceptable.

If you think my ruralized hillbilly ass is gona nominate a moderator! LOL

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https://21university.com/content-update-26/

A Benefactor of a benefactor
In other news…

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” . . . once men could constructivley compete for resources WITHOUT harming other men civilisation arose.”

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Not hardly. Disorderly and un-moderated is the greatest thing in a male space. A brawl. It’s a free-for-all. A meritocracy. A competition for thoughts and ideas. Moderation is a girly thing. Funny thing was a couple years ago when WordPress popped up with a like button. Another girly thing. Without a dislike button. Go figure. Society is so feminized that it can’t conceive of a dislike button. Just like society folks can’t conceive of a Blaximus punch to the chest or the face. I won’t agree to be a parliamentarian. I’m too odd, too in my own head (Extroverted Sensing… Read more »

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Disorderly and un-moderated is the greatest thing in a male space. A brawl. It’s a free-for-all. A meritocracy. A competition for thoughts and ideas.

Beat Rugby to the draw:

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“This can go either way. I have yet to see this though in any of the sons of single mothers I’ve dated or even my own step-brother. Maybe my sampling is too small but they’ve all been pussies.”

Red Cloud’s territory at the height of his power stretched from Minnesota to The Salt Lake, From Canada to the Oklahoma Panhandle.

The Sioux war Chief was raised by a single mother.

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@SJF

I have been back in the woods so long I am growing moss on the north side.

Most people come and go the average stretch is 5yrs, the independent types last longer. Iv’e met people for the first time that have been around a few years and they think i’m new.

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Lost Patrol
https://archive.org/stream/RapeOfTheMind-ThePsychologyOfThoughtControl-A.m.MeerlooMd/RapeOfTheMind-ThePsychologyOfThoughtControl-A.m.MeerlooMd_djvu.txt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb5dHYnx7Uo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSutjmECFb0

“Disorderly and un-moderated is the greatest thing in a male space. A brawl. It’s a free-for-all. A meritocracy. A competition for thoughts and ideas.”

The ability to destroy something and build something without having to manipulate it…. I’m still struggling with that…

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