The Matrix is a system, Neo, and that system is our enemy. But when you are inside and you look around, what do you see; businessmen, lawyers, teachers, carpenters. The minds of the very people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of the system and that makes them our enemy.
You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.
I apologize for breaking up the continuity of last week’s post with this one today, but I felt it was necessary to address the recent firing of James Damore by his employers, Google, for allegedly breaking company conduct codes for raising many of the issue I and other’s in the Red Pill community and the Manosphere have been dissecting for a long time now. I generally don’t like to get too wrapped up in current events until more information develops about an incident I think is relevant to how the Red Pill (as it correctly applies to intersexual dynamics) is perceived in mainstream society. It’s easy to make mistakes so if I miss anything here please feel free to correct me or add to things in the comment thread.
To the best of what I’ve been able to ascertain James Damore posted what mainstream media wants to define as a 10 page “manifesto” (really a ‘memo’) about why it is he believes certain gender/sexual stereotypes persist in the tech field. After reading it, there is really nothing all that shocking from a Red Pill perspective in his essay. If anything, Damore is still deluded by Blue Pill conditioned idealistic hopes for gender equalism not dissimilar to those held by the MRM. Really there’s nothing in this PDF that the Manosphere and even the sexual sciences haven’t been revealing for over a decade now. Damore just had the balls to post it on what Google promoted as an anonymous inter-corporate intranet forum, ostensibly established to allow their employees to voice their opinions and concerns about the company in anonymity. Google is only one of many multi-national companies to have these forums set up in some lame effort to make it seem as if they value the opinions and engagement of their employees.
Now we see just how private and dangerous these forums really are to the livelihood of their employees. To be fair, I doubt that Damore is the first guy to get fired for expressing himself on one of these forums. I’m sure there’ve been countless other men shown the door by many companies with a lower profile than Google. What made Damore a target wasn’t so much Google from a corporate sense, but rather the ‘progressive’ feminine-primary corporate culture that is endemic to Google. Once Damore had published his very well-thought op-ed about the fundamental biological, psychological and neurological differences between men and women, and how this affects innovation and employment in the tech industry, the intra-corporate witch hunt was on for the guy who anonymously posted. No doubt Google code monkeys would have little problem identifying and doxxing James, but where this witch hunt stemmed from was far more likely his co-workers and fueled by the egalitarian-equalist, postmodernist mindset that pervades Google.
This is a snapshot of the Google corporate culture. The last gal, Danielle Brown is Google’s “Diversity VP”.
The official line from Google is that Damore’s “manifesto” constitutes a breach of Google’s code of conduct. Yet for all of Google’s insisting that they respect the right’s of speech within the company, Damore’s doxxing came from within Google’s corporate culture:
The employee memo — which was up for days without action by Google — went viral within the search giant’s internal discussion boards this weekend, with some decrying it and others defending it. Sources said the company’s top execs have been struggling with how to deal with it and the fallout, trying to decide if its troubling content crossed a line.
Apparently it did. In a memo to employees titled “Our words matter,” Google CEO Sundar Pichai said that the employee — who has been named on Twitter, although his identity could not be verified — had violated its code of conduct. (I am not publishing his name, because he — and others who disagree with him — have been threatened with violence online.)
Well, apparently James was doxxed identified and was threatened with violence both from within and without Google now. Thus, the predictable constitutional excuse that ‘you can say what you want, but you’ll be held accountable’ and Google was within its rights to fire Damore doesn’t hold water when Google promoted its internal forum as an anonymous place for employees to provide their input so the company can get honest feedback. I’m not a lawyer, but I think Google’s got a really sticky situation on their hands in that their actions technically constitute entrapment.
Furthermore, I get the feeling that Google’s campus is not unlike many other large corporate cultures – a core of skilled labor that actually puts numbers on the board as far as productivity is concerned working within a larger bureaucracy of basically superfluous positions that define the company’s corporate identity to the world around it. The writing on the wall now, that this skilled labor pool is seeing, is that this bureaucracy set of the company can have them fired for daring to voice a dissenting reality to their own ego-investments. How long before that talent pool opts for a more secure jobs in a corporate culture that looks less like the “people’s” revolution in China?
Now, all that said, James Damore, unwittingly or deliberately, has fallen into the trust-trap that I outlined back in 2013 in It’s Their Game. And while I think he’s got a pretty good case against Google, he had to have understood to some degree that Google owns his Frame. Perhaps this was his intent all along (nowhere have I seen how long he’d been employed there), but he was either very naive or very cunning in his in publishing his ‘memo’. Maybe he thinks this is his Atlas Shrugged moment, or maybe he actually bought the lie that Google (any company) cared about his employee feedback – that fact remains that the Feminine Imperative has assimilated every aspect of western society. The frame in which the overwhelming majority of men depend upon in their corporate, career, job, lives is one into which the Feminine Imperative seized social control over long ago.
For as much as it seems that standing up to systemic, calculated, postmodern ignorance is a heroic act of Red Pill aware defiance, never forget the insistent frame of the system you find yourself in. A lot of men in the ‘sphere like to tout the virtues of being ‘anti-fragile’ enough to weather the inevitable retaliations of the postmodern herd for their dissenting world view, and that may well be the case for a few men, but remember, everyone, with rare exception, is fragile about something – family, respect, integrity, personal relationships, the people who depend on him as well as his revenue (and the capacity to generate more) all apply.
Feminine Correctness
Every social, religious and corporate institution has been saturated with feminine-correctness. It’s important for Red Pill aware men to make this distinction because it will inform your decision making for as long as you remain in most corporate environments. I know many ideological and political factions like to trot out the idea about how they are against “Political Correctness”. That term, PC, has been with us for a long time now and its definition has been passed back and forth along political lines almost interchangeably for decades. Whatever it is one side isn’t allowed to address in public discourse becomes politically incorrect conversation. However, the distinction that conveniently (calculatedly) goes unnoticed is what I described as the Sisterhood Über Alles in my most recent book. Feminine Correctness permeates both sides of the political spectrum, but this is only one social arena amongst many where the appeasement of women’s perspectives as being the only correct perspective has been saturated.
Anyone who’s read my essay, Losing My Religion regarding how the Feminine Imperative has covertly (and recently overtly) assimilated authority of church culture – and ultimately doctrine – in mainstream religion can get an idea of what I’m talking about here with regard to corporate culture. The corporate workplace, big and small, has similarly been assimilated over the course of over six decades now; to the point that a feminine-primary influence has become a de facto authority under the premise of diversity, gender-neutrality and combating a presumed endemic male-sexism. All of which feed into the default, feminine-correct, presumption of female victimhood. Thus, we see the rise of the ubiquitous, almost universally female staffed, Human Resources departments whose true purpose is not about hiring, company morale or corporate culture, but rather an enforcement of feminine-correct initiatives and bylaws intended to give unquestioned authority to the feminine-correct social narrative.
In our modern corporate culture we’ve seen a meta-scale enforcement of what I termed Overseers in the Locker Room in my essay, Male Space:
Overseers in the Locker Room
The second purpose in the goal of female inclusion into male space is really a policing of the thought dynamics and attitudes of the men in that space. When women are allowed access to the locker room the dynamic of the locker room changes. The locker room can take many different shapes: the workplace environment, the sports team, the group of all-male coders, the primarily male scientific community, the ‘boys club’, the group of gamer nerds at the local game store, even strip clubs and the sanctuary you think your ‘man cave’ is – the context is one of women inserting themselves into male space in order to enforce the dictates of feminine social primacy.
When the influence of feminine-primacy is introduced into social settings made up mainly by men and male-interests, the dynamics and purpose of that group changes. The purpose becomes less about the endeavor itself and more about adherence to the feminine-inclusionary aspect of that endeavor. It starts to become less about being the best or most passionate at what they do, and more about being acceptable to the influence of the Feminine Imperative while attempting maintaining the former level of interest in the endeavor.
Men unaccustomed to having women in their midst generally react in two ways; According to their proper feminized conditioning, they embrace the opportunity to impress these ‘trailblazing’ women (hoping to be found worthy of intimacy) with their enthusiastic acceptance of, and identification with, their feminine overseer(s), or they become easy foils of an “out moded” way of thinking that the new ‘in-group’ happily labels them with.
Once the feminine-primary in-group dynamic is established a ‘feminine correct’ social frame follows. This feminine correction restructures the priorities of goals, and validates any accomplishments, in terms of how they reflect upon the feminine as a whole. Thus any in-group success is perceived as a feminine success in male space, while in-group failures or simple mediocrity is either dismissed entirely or blamed on out-group men’s failure to comply with, or the rejection of, the Feminine Imperative’s ‘correcting’ influence on the in-group.
In all honesty, Jame Damore’s rationales in his ‘memo’ were very measured, bordering on Blue Pill, in his attempts to preempt what he obviously knew would be a workplace viral insult. However, his experience is a high-profile illustration of how corporate culture has been taken hostage by a mindset fed and raised by the Feminine Imperative. When you consider that this is the corporate culture of a company dubiously responsible for global access to information – ostensibly legitimate, authoritative information by the larger populace – you begin to see the extent to which the imperative as assumed control not just of our social discourse, but the unquestionable authority to direct the acceptability of personal belief and critical thought.
When I wrote The First Female President, I attempted to reveal just how globally extensive the reach of the Feminine Imperative really was. So encompassing is the presumed understanding of feminine-correctness, so ensaturated is it into our societal subconscious that we tend to take its presence for granted until Hillary (the she) was denied the presidency (to the he). Then the societal scale outrage comes to the surface because what was presumed to be correct is not a universally accepted foreknowledge as their social subconscious had presumed was believed.
That outrage was on a geopolitical social scale, yet it was due to the same presumptions that cause the outrage we see over a kid at Google who dared to say ‘no’ not just to Google’s corporate culture, but to all corporate cultures that have been subsumed by the Feminine Imperative for over 60 years now. That any company would need a Vice President of Diversity is an indictment of how deeply embedded the Feminine Imperative is in corporate culture.
Awww shucks brother….. We all fuck up Just, life kicks the ever livingshit out if every single one of us. Getting up and walking back to the center of the ring is what makes us men
Side stepping that same kind of asswhopping is what makes us smart men
“Yet for all of Google’s insisting that they respect the right’s of speech within the company, Damore’s doxxing came from within Google’s corporate culture:”
One big taboo is talking about coworkers in a public forum,for good reason,many people have been written up and fired for this.
If google doesn’t repair “the leak” this will create havoc in employee/ management relations.
Just because James content was “sexist” doesn’t change the overall rules of conduct and make it ok to publicize intranet content. The repercusions of this action are universal.
Don’t sound like me my man
PUA have their skill set
OMG’s have that’s
Each should listen to the other in their area of expertise
“The repercussions of this action are universal.” And the polarization of thought (out in the open) will only be a net benefit for The Red Pill. They prove the rule, just like Seraphs Field Report proves AWALT. Polarization Excess potential arises when certain qualities are attributed excess meaning. Dependent relationships are formed between people when they begin to compare themselves and place conditions upon each other such as each other, such as “If you do this then I will do this.” Of itself excess potential is not necessarily a problem while the distorted evaluation exists irrelatively, on its own. However,… Read more »
Fuck meeting the world half way.
I am going to walk down this here hill and humps it’s leg into submission
“PUA have their skill set
OMG’s have theirs
Each should listen to the other in their area of expertise”
No doubt. Merit shouldn’t be given unless deserved. (Observe the Google fiasco)
Right. But there is this thing that Rollo created. His own Red Pill brand.
It’s a tribal thing. What is the hallmark of Tribes?
In-group Altruism and Out-group Malice.
“Fuck meeting the world half way.” The meaning of meeting the world halfway is a PUA maxim: Don’t Fuck up your chances by overthinking or not taking actions. Don’t cock-block life presenting itself for you to choose to grab your opportunities as they present themselves. Don’t cock-block the girl that actually wants to fuck you. Let her come to you. Let life come to you. And then choose by Action. The mind is a terrible thing to let cock-block what your soul wants. Saying Fuck meeting the world half way is fighting reality. Reality is stacked against your imperative. “If… Read more »
“I am going to walk down this here hill and humps it’s leg into submission.”
Apex Fallacy Premise. Assumes Apex Alpha positioning and a super abundance of of never ending Energy with the Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
No one is arguing that this isn’t a good strategy for you.
“The repercussions of this action are universal.”
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/08/10/from-goolag-shitlackey-to-maga-shitlord-the-transformation-of-james-damore/
“Or does doxing people that go against the status quo become part of the new company policy?”
Apparently Damore shared and discussed his memo with others after he posted on the anonymous board. Based on that he basically outed himself and Goog is probably not liable for anything. It’s dumb to think (for an employee) any of that would truly be anonymous anyhow with IP tracing and log files etc…
If James outed himself tough shit, if someone else in the company did they should be fired.
Keywords: should be. Lol, that will not happen. Fire a woman who complained about an evil, sexist white male? I attend a few conferences now and then for work where Google is present. They always bring more staff than is necessary. I noticed immediately that the staffers who provide absolutely no value whatsoever are the young girls. These girls often are attractive and stand around doing nothing but chatting about stupid shit. The staff that know what they are talking about are almost always males, many are Indian. A few select women have proved to be highly skilled and know… Read more »
“@Seraph, C&P this comment over to the Field Reports page”
I added a few more notes as well…
Just for the sake of accuracy people, I’ve spoken to a friend at Google, who says that Damore’s initial posting was not anonymous at all. He says Damore wrote the memo in an internal Google Docs document, which was publicly accessible within Google. He said the author’s name is visible on that kind of publicly shared document. Damore then created a short link to that Google Docs document and posted it on their internal Google Plus social networking. My friend says he knew Damore’s name when he first read the memo on his Google Plus feed before it was public.… Read more »
This is from a comment buried deep by now, but I stand with SFC Ton regarding Reagan. The cult surrounding the guy is amazing when you consider how little he actually achieved. Particularly preposterous is the boilerplate claim that he, either singlehandledly or together with Thatcher and the Pope, defeated the USSR (Soviets basically defeated themselves, and they had enough natural resources to keep on going for a long time on autopilot).
It does seem the only thing “conservatives” want to conserve is the Regan myth because they damn sure haven’t conserved anything else to had down to their prosperity
@Blax
I’d like to see the Richest Nation In the History of the World give them a fair shot
The oppression of men always follows the SJW cry of “It ain’t fair.”
Ruh roh…
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/opinion/sundar-pichai-google-memo-diversity.html
The world is primarily three groups of people:
1. The 1% who make things happen, like Soros and Zuckerberg. They create tidal waves of change.
2. The 3% who watch things happen, like the UMCs. They navigate to avoid getting drowned and net some debris produced by the wave.
3. The rest who have no clue and get drowned.
Don’t envy or hate the UMCs. If you can’t be in the first group, at least try to become a UMC.
From the NYT cite: “Damore is describing a truth on one level; his sensible critics are describing a different truth, one that exists on another level. He is championing scientific research; they are championing gender equality. It takes a little subtlety to harmonize these strands, but it’s doable. Of course subtlety is in hibernation in modern America. The third player in the drama is Google’s diversity officer, Danielle Brown. She didn’t wrestle with any of the evidence behind Damore’s memo. She just wrote his views “advanced incorrect assumptions about gender.” This is ideology obliterating reason. The fourth actor is the… Read more »
2. The 3% who watch things happen, like the UMCs. They navigate to avoid getting drowned and net some debris produced by the wave.
They go with the flow instead of swimming against the stream or slapping the water with denial anger, bargaining or depression to waste energy. The flow downstream and take what life presents itself with in the infinite space of variations. They take what is theirs to take and guild it with Platinum. Power to control their circumstances along with sovereignty to control the outcome of their life.
Right out of the script book.
SJF plz stop/.
SJF plz stop/.
What is it now Mersonia?
@ ASD So what are you saying? Am I now labeled as a sjw? These trigger phrases are really stupid. Every couple of years there’s a new one. When I talk about flaws in our system, if I use a trigger word like fair in any context, you come back with the weak, lame sjw bullshit. You don’t bother addressing what I’ve actually said. You’ve been alive longer than I have and you should know better. Why is a fair opportunity such an awful thing in your eyes? Evidently you had one or a couple, so why are you so… Read more »
Ruh roh… https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/opinion/sundar-pichai-google-memo-diversity.html Yep. There’s also this from Princeton bio-ethicist and philosopher Peter Singer: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/google-wrong-article-1.3399750 Money quote: So on an issue that matters, Damore put forward a view that has reasonable scientific support, and on which it is important to know what the facts are. Why then was he fired? Pichai, Google’s CEO, says that “To suggest a group of our colleagues have traits that make them less biologically suited to that work is offensive and not OK.” But Damore explicitly, and more than once, made it clear that he was not reducing individuals to a group, and so was… Read more »
Gambling addict accountant who stole £350,000 walks free after judge says she’s not made of the ‘stuff’ for prison.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/gambling-addict-accountant-who-stole-%c2%a3350000-walks-free-after-judge-says-shes-not-made-of-the-stuff-for-prison/ar-AApRy5B?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=DELLDHP
In the manufacturing world that I work in you have two kinds of labor. 1 added value to the product 2 non-added value. This shit seems like a added value guy Damore got fired by pack of non added value HR people. On the plant floor the production is all that matters. If a machine or robot goes down and causes a bottle neck to the process it’s a bad. No body gives a fuck if the IT computer guy is a sexist, racist, homophobe, white , black male , female, gay or straight or what ever just as long… Read more »
Reagan and Thatcher defeated the working mans union wether together or seperately in the 80s. This action lowered the spending power of the working class that has had a negative efect on the economy ever since placing it on borrowed money and time.
The tax codes and corporate person rulings of the time didn’t help either.
@Blax
So what are you saying? Am I now labeled as a sjw?
I hear you quacking, so I assume you are a duck. Is that unreasonable?
You don’t bother addressing what I’ve actually said.
Actually, I did, but not in your frame. Your frame shift failed.
Why is a fair opportunity such an awful thing in your eyes?
Doubling down on your attempted frame shift still won’t get you any points.
The rest of your comment is superfluous.
I disagree with your conclusion Nova. Time will tell but Big Events have a curious habit of following what seem at the moment to be rather minor things… But we all know of the power shifting on a fulcrum.
That one grain. That one snowflake that sets of an avalanche…
If Pichai is fired – even if it is really just normal boardroom svengali blood lust – that will reverberate in HR and CAO and GC and boardrooms around the western world…
@SJF
They go with the flow instead of swimming against the stream or slapping the water with denial anger
Ton’s gonna hump that Soros tidal wave and make it his bitch. Of course, Chuck Norris beat him to it.
Trump – Pussy Grabber in Chief – has shifted the Overton Window… Damore is doing the same. Lots of pent up rage… Fuel.
’It is not that humans have become any more greedy than in generations past,” he famously lamented in 2002 testimony before the Senate Banking Committee. “It is that the avenues to express greed had grown so enormously.”
Famous Greenspan quote sums it up well on the disparity of the working class.
For now at least in America a man can step out on his own with hard work and improve his lot in life. This may change soon.
@ stuff Even though I’ve never been a huge fan of most unions, it’s undeniable that they did serve a needed purpose. Most Americans aren’t aware of the how and why unions even came into being. I also support ” right to work ” because men need jobs. Full stop. I remember when Reagan fired the air traffic controllers. Every union in the u.s. blinked momentarily and the stage was set for challenging and ultimately destroying the bulk of unions. So workers are subject to the same issues as workers were prior to unions. We stepped backwards. Anyone who enjoys… Read more »
Been following the back & forth between @asd and & blax. I see @asd points, but I gotta side with @blax. While I don’t begrudge a man his measure of happiness or opportunity to excel, ‘fairness’ is a made-up social construct to hold one back. Human nature is amoral and the ‘Arena’ gives zero fucks about fairness. The timid souls whine about fairness because it’s a convenient distraction from handling their shit. This is where my agreement with @asd begins and ends. Ego investment in categorizing people & things into neat little boxes is also nothing but a distraction and… Read more »
Sentie —
We’ll see. It is an interesting degree of pushback, but I will be very surprised if anything happens to Pichai over it, especially given the suit that is pending against Google for gender discrimination.
Sentient. Ugh my browser was fritzing.
@Chump no more
This sums it up.
“If you’re measuring a man by any other metric than “is he owning and handling his shit”, then IMO you’re doing it wrong.”
The trick is understanding the times and adjusting strategy and tactics accordingly.
“Maybe Damore was naive, but he’s capitalizing on Google’s predictable PR nightmare like he knew what he was doing.”
Irony ,Googles main objective combined with their blue pill idealism will be their worst nightmare on screen for the worlds entertainment value.
@ chumpnomore I agree with you. I let ASD spin me up sometimes as sjf points out. My earnings ” qualify ” me as umc, but I live working class. I must seem like some kind of traitor in asd’s eyes because I won’t follow the narrative. But I don’t subscribe to bashing an entire ” class ” of people. That’s not my Intent. I only have issues with those that are okay with the more fucked up aspects of our system because they don’t even have a true grasp of what are system is in reality. Disneyland. No matter… Read more »
““If you’re measuring a man by any other metric than “is he owning and handling his shit”, then IMO you’re doing it wrong.””
of course measuring… Creates hierarchies…
Just accept there is a natural order to things… Kum bah Yah and workers of the world uniting don’t last. Cause there are only so many seats in any lifeboat when pushing and shoving time comes.
“Cause there are only so many seats in any lifeboat when pushing and shoving time comes.”
This is when things will get very interesting,watching all the hierarchical chiefs figure out which of them will row. Hint it is usually the one least capable of doing it that draws the short straw.
“Ugh my browser was fritzing.”
You should switch to Chrome. Google is much more predictable these days.
blax, unions have indeed improved the common man’s lot, and continue to do so in certain areas; some unions have themselves also become a place of corruption from their being bastions of power and money; many now view the little man much like any business/corp would in some cases, the balance of power has shifted too far in that the unions can force a business to make very unbusiness-like decisions; workers paid by seniority, not by merit; inability to fire non-productive workers or streamline staff hurts a company’s market agility and efficiencies; these costs don’t disappear, just shifted around; workers’… Read more »
Tell you what, even the politics here is interesting reading. I used to believe like asdgamer, but it’s almost as big of a red pill to grasp the truth on free trade and what it’s actually doing to us (to someone who is invested in his beliefs) as it is to figure out women are hypergamous. Blax is spot on. Corporate doesnt give a shit about anyone, and its not just obamacare. The whole political class has sold the country down the river in exchange for lining their own pockets. The myth of the good guy aint just an article… Read more »
7817
Teamster Pension Fund. CALPERS. Illinois Municipal Retiremnt Fund. Etc.
9 trillion in assets… Invested how? In what?
Can’t ask Jimmy Hoffa of course…
These guys need the teamsters union.
https://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/news/rigged-forced-into-debt-worked-past-exhaustion-left-with-nothing/
Most formulations of arguments of the (political) extreme are useless save for illustrating the risks of too much of either.
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
Pretty even split between Unions and evil Capitalists… You get what you pay for on The Hill after all…
Pass out some more Red Pills…
Looking at some of the media fallout, I see where the Googlette VP justified the firing saying Damore had made “unlawful statements.” Such as? That’s nebulous enough to approach defamation territory: did he threaten a person? Suggest violence or harm to an identified gaggle on the 10th floor? Write bad code, perform vandalism? Steal from the snack box without putting in his $1.50 for the Snickers? IF she’s got nothing to hang on that assertion – and is hinting he committed an actionable offense or crime – it could be libel per se, no special damages need be proven. He… Read more »
Dr. z Good afternoon! I’m not advocating for big government to fix any problems regarding the workplace. Government sucks ass when it comes to these things. But I am advocating for government to stop being so fascist and cozy with the whims of corporations and lobbyist, and purposely pushing legislation that only ever benefits the wealthy at everyone else’s expense. The data is right there. Not so much an equal rights argument as an equal treatment under law argument. No favorites because of money, sex, race or religion. That’s fairness. Then the market place can and will sort itself out.… Read more »
” . . . ” fairness “ . . . I used the word in the traditional sense denoting square dealing.”
Which r/K political theory links with K selection/conservatism/right wing. Free and open competition on a level playing field, and let the best man win.
Stuff
That trucker who borrowed to buy an asset then went bust and lost his equity… is a hell of a lot better off than these old guys…
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/03/tyler-durden/ny-teamsters-pension-fund-goes-broke/
Such as?
I think she’s being loose with the word “unlawful”, but the clear suggestion is that Damore’s memo was, in itself, sexual harassment of every female employee at Google. Sexual harassment isn’t a crime, it’s something that can form the basis for a civil claim, but PR-speak can use the word “unlawful” to describe something like that, I think, even though I’d say it’s misleading.
“Phony, false hierarchies are for weak people. They create ever more weak and confused people.”
And there’s the r selected/liberal/left wing.
@Sentient “of course measuring… Creates hierarchies… Just accept there is a natural order to things… Kum bah Yah and workers of the world uniting don’t last. Cause there are only so many seats in any lifeboat when pushing and shoving time comes.” Agreed. Men are wired to measure. It’s how we form tribes of capable men who have each others back. Read ‘The Way of Men’ for a 2nd time. What struck me on my 2nd pass was that the greatest crime fem-centric society has perpetrated on men is their assimilation and re-purposing of the narrative of “being good at… Read more »
“That trucker who borrowed to buy an asset then went bust and lost his equity… is a hell of a lot better off than these old guys…”
Correction,those truckers that were forced by the epa, the competition bidding of the net,and the companies that offered them a job are way worse off.
Than the union drivers that were paid a living wage with benefits are to have their pensions lost to low interest rates and a series of impossible investment situations(that some made a killing on without their hands tied) now atributed to misalocatiopn of funds.
blax – good afternoon to you, too, sir thanks for expounding; we’re more closely aligned than otherwise how to fix it? if we could figure out “equal treatment under law” that right there would likely be enough to take out whole swaths of nonsense and corruption our society endures; come to think about, how many of our social woes can be attributed to “unequal treatment under law?”; the current mess gets people clamoring for more/different laws for government responsibility when equal enforcement of the current laws would do it generally speaking, I’m for ‘just enough’ govt to do those things… Read more »
Stuff
The trucker who chose to take the “job” can start over from nothing. 75YO not so much…
Chump. Nice. He that shall see this day, and live old age, Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours, And say “To-morrow is Saint Crispian.” Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars, And say “These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.” Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot, But he’ll remember, with advantages, What feats he did that day. Then shall our names, Familiar in his mouth as household words— Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter, Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester— Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb’red. This story shall the good man… Read more »
from trucker’s article… yes, they’ve cherry picked some who got totally fucked, I wish those guys all the best – ‘many of them poor immigrants who speak little English’ – ‘Many drivers who spoke little English’ hey, I think I’ve figured out why they signed contracts that screwed them…. fuckhead companies wrote it in English! at what point do these truckers have personal responsibility? predatory/opportunistic companies trying to take advantage… nothing personal, they’ve done it to me also; just gotta arm yourself predatory/opportunistic women trying to take advantage… nothing personal, they’ve done it to me also; just gotta arm yourself… Read more »
I’ve actually used this speech in my company… We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition; And gentlemen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day. When I was thinking about starting the company, at 23, it was me and a couple of other guys. we were going to leave our employer – in response… Read more »
I must seem like some kind of traitor in asd’s eyes because I won’t follow the narrative. Fuck, what drivel…more yareally-izing…putting words in people’s mouths I’m not a classist…I’m totally into Red Pill…you judge me and you are incompetent to do so…get rid of your Blue Pill ego investments in SJWism. My earnings ” qualify ” me as umc, but I live working class. I guess that makes you a Real Man ™, not one of those UMC snobs. heh I get the push back concerning ” fairness “, because the word has been hijacked and co- opted by those… Read more »
Never have put up my or any of my men’s services up for bid on the net. My industry is totaly unregulated and for the largest part not up for public offerings. It operates on total meritocracy and only the toughest and most flexible survive. I have always paid my men better than union scale and kept them advised on trends and changes,lay offs ect. 2007 being no exception. As a result I am comfortable in the same place for 30 plus years,with many friends. There are no benefits or retirement,only what wealth you can accumulate KFG style,we spend a… Read more »
This year I made a decision not to work. These startups in the information net keep calling trying to get me on board and the word of mouth advertisment just keeps coming in. I have turned down more money this year than I have ever made. And still stay busy helping the men that have helped me over the years for less money just because that is what we do. I know that this isn’t the norm,,buying the cheaper land then having it become a super zip with all these millionairs moving in around me and they cant get anything… Read more »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYepn6QDaTI
http://www.aaronsw.com/
http://www.rememberaaronsw.com/memories/
@ stuff Lol. To this day my 79 year old dad can’t fully understand the allure of making money while sitting in an office with a colorful piece of cloth tied around your neck. And I’m still trying to catch him in savings, the man with a highschool education. He tells me working solely for someone else is an extremely risky proposition. I credit him with teaching me not to put all of my eggs in one basket, and to never put faith in the imaginary. In IT I don’t have any women to compete with. It’s just the way… Read more »
Oh, and the other benefit to not being a system slave is zero debt. I avoid debt like the clap. If I can’t pay for it, I don’t need it
Damn it, ASE certification. I need a proofreader.
I’m liking the marxism/capitalism/left/right debate, so I thought I wade in, with my two pennies, because it’s a fascinating argument to be had. Putting aside the labels, ideologically there have really only been two ways that we have collectively organised our economic affairs, either through authority, or through voluntary co-operation. In an “authoritative” economic system, people considered to possess “higher legal authority” than others, get to decide how goods and services are distributed. That is a third party decides who should get what, according to an economic plan of some sort (think Mao’s “Great Leap Forward”, or Lenin’s “New Economic… Read more »
N.B.
If you really want to decide if an authoritative or voluntary economic system is best, just look around you, particularly at the bits of the economy that are constantly in crisis and disorganisation, and ask yourself if they are operating voluntarily, or with the backing of some sort authority.
On a lighter note, if I could just find a way to make all this economic talk engaging and interesting for women, I reckon I would be doing alright.
@asd lol, you’re a funny guy… SJW is the LAST phrase I’d use to describe.Blax. Obviously never met the guy but have zero doubt if I bumped into him on the street and chatted, I would ‘know’ him instantly. The guy is consistent in how he portrays himself… exudes authenticity. A guy like Blax, who’s content with his measure of success and mastery of his domain does not get there by being a SJW. SJW’s are entitled victims who would rather be heckling in the cheap seats, than battling, marred with blood & sweat, in the Arena. I enjoy reading… Read more »
. . . the currency system is operated as a virtual monopoly granted by the government . . .
The central bank system is actually private sector.
@Blax
I could definitely hang with your dad.
Xenon lights,lithium ion,cvt’s mainly just the electronics have changed other than the way they test for the least incorrect answer it should be a cakewalk ASE. That is if you have the background already if you don’t it would be like going to a 6 year university.
A man unable to understand his true nature (and burden) and unable to connect to his innate need to master his domain is the tragedy of our time.
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Legit shit like that is why you are no longer a chump
Blax, didn’t your daddy teach you not to argue with retards?
Zombie apocolypse,LOL arguing W/retards LOL.. Sometimes this is the best entertainment!
Blax isn’t arguing… He just making feelz inflected pronouncements.
Populism is Classism from the bottom up, and paid for by the Top.
“We are all more alike than different.”
Which is great when We all have what We want and when that changes, when someone Else wants what We have, then struggle ensues. And Someone ends up with that Stuff. See all of history.
Blax, didn’t your daddy teach you not to argue with retards?
I note that I’m about the only man who will argue with you.
https://smile.amazon.com/Reflections-War-Death-Sigmund-Freud-ebook/dp/B004X5RN12/ref=sr_1_923?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1502486441&sr=1-923&keywords=classics+on+kindle+free
@kfg, That is correct, specifically in the example of the US, the central bank is a privately owned body granted a monopoly by the government. In the UK however (my arguments will be a bit UK-centric, since that’s where I live), the Bank of England, despite previously being private owned, was nationalised in 1946 and is a publicly funded quango. It’s a bit like disputing the difference between fascism and socialism, in that, under socialism the state owns the means of production, and in fascism, the state controls the means of production even if they are privately owned. In both… Read more »
@Chump lol, you’re a funny guy… SJW is the LAST phrase I’d use to describe.Blax. Language is a dead giveaway. I’ve only ever heard SJWs use the “It ain’t fair” argument. “Equal treatment before the law” is an idealistic proposition and shows a lack of understanding of legal realities…the side with the better legal team wins. I like Blax and Ton…I respect them for what they’ve done, not for the populist shit they say. “Square dealing” is a populist concept. It’s a tactic used to conceal SJWism. You can find it in old films. I am extremely perceptive when it… Read more »
@ASD: “I’ve only ever heard SJWs use the “It ain’t fair” argument.”
Care to settle the matter by flipping this coin?
@Chump
A guy like Blax, who’s content with his measure of success and mastery of his domain does not get there by being a SJW. SJW’s are entitled victims who would rather be heckling in the cheap seats, than battling, marred with blood & sweat, in the Arena.
So why does he quack like a duck?
Some pushback in California vs. Goolag. The second banner is perfect IMO.
https://twitter.com/adra21/status/896014777725575170
@Chump
In my arguments with my friend over evolution, religion, whatever, my friends were eventually persuaded after months or years of argument…they had massive ego investments in bullshit and their affection for me and respect helped them to stay engaged and consider my arguments…on my side, persistence and patience helped me to deal with their repeated, illogical arguments.
As to concrete, immediate realities, none of this discussion pertains. But in life, I’ve found it important to realize when I’m being a fed a line of bullshit. And I felt like arguing for a bit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ronpaul/comments/6sdsmo/google_has_been_scandalous_in_its_betrayal_of/?ref=share&ref_source=link
@SJF More Anger than Energy. But then a few years ago it was almost a murderous rage – so at least its getting healthier. Well your making money out of the pricks so good for you – but unfortunately your also supporting their bullshit at the same time. Not for me to judge on the ethics of that but not something Ill do (I’m not a total nihilist yet and theirs still some last idealistic pieces that refuse to be removed from my psyche – despite that I’m old enough to have had them all ripped out). @Anonymous Reader Very… Read more »
Had a chat with my Google rep today. After we were done with the tech talk I asked him the mood of his coworkers. He was honest and said people are confused and questioning the future of being open internally. I told him try not to get too Damore-alized.
The tweet images are hysterical. Thanks Anon.
@kfg
Care to settle the matter by flipping this coin?
Sure, if it’s a “Moby Dick” doubloon and I get to keep it.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/19610/candidate-set-be-first-female-navy-seal-quits-amanda-prestigiacomo#
All in all, been a pretty good week for reality.
who’s your alpha?
funniest shit I’ve seen in a while
@George C “If you don’t like how a company treats you, just go to another one is my advice to dealing with this in the workplace.” You will experience the same bias and distorted perceptions and treatment every where you go in the American workplace today. There is no escaping the “treatment” you reference. Our culture is steeped in a distorted sexual paradigm. Unfortunately you are mistaken about American business being based on a merit system. One still exists but it is a hybrid perversion mixed with social politics and the purely honest hardest working producers effectively are nothing more… Read more »
The little commuter airlines don’t typically have Unions. Large ones do (exception Virgin, a very well run company).
The smaller airlines know that pilots use them as a stepping stone to getting their hours up to then apply to a major, much better paying airline. I’ve been told they try to keep this from happening by purposely failing them on their check rides so the majors won’t hire them. That way, they’re stuck.
I’m legally required to enforce my company’s policies
Shit!
I’m legally required to enforce my company’s policies
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I am legally required to do a lot of shit but fuck the law
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Like I said populism is a response to a stimulus. Want less of It? Don’t aggressively strip mine the folks underneath you. Populism etc is real easy to avoid
Side stepping that same kind of asswhopping is what makes us smart men Every fight I was ever in I was the underdog in terms of speed, size, agility, and strength. When I was a kid, I was also less coordinated. Sidestepping wasn’t an option. I won my share of fights because although I took a lot more hits, I managed to get in one blow that won the fight. In fights, I always expect to feel pain…nowadays, I will try to use space and timing and terrain to my advantage. It’s amazing how being on the ground with some… Read more »
Populists are always bitches of socialists.
ASD: I’ve only ever heard SJWs use the “It ain’t fair” argument.
KFG: Care to settle the matter by flipping this coin?
ASD: Sure, if it’s a “Moby Dick” doubloon and I get to keep it.
KFG: I’d like to see you flip a “Moby Dick” doubloon. Bonus points for a pitchpole. We’ll make it a Sovereign. If you win, you keep it. If you lose, you owe me one. You flip, I call. 6 out of 10. I call heads. Well, look at that. Six straight heads.