The Matrix is a system, Neo, and that system is our enemy. But when you are inside and you look around, what do you see; businessmen, lawyers, teachers, carpenters. The minds of the very people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of the system and that makes them our enemy.
You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.
I apologize for breaking up the continuity of last week’s post with this one today, but I felt it was necessary to address the recent firing of James Damore by his employers, Google, for allegedly breaking company conduct codes for raising many of the issue I and other’s in the Red Pill community and the Manosphere have been dissecting for a long time now. I generally don’t like to get too wrapped up in current events until more information develops about an incident I think is relevant to how the Red Pill (as it correctly applies to intersexual dynamics) is perceived in mainstream society. It’s easy to make mistakes so if I miss anything here please feel free to correct me or add to things in the comment thread.
To the best of what I’ve been able to ascertain James Damore posted what mainstream media wants to define as a 10 page “manifesto” (really a ‘memo’) about why it is he believes certain gender/sexual stereotypes persist in the tech field. After reading it, there is really nothing all that shocking from a Red Pill perspective in his essay. If anything, Damore is still deluded by Blue Pill conditioned idealistic hopes for gender equalism not dissimilar to those held by the MRM. Really there’s nothing in this PDF that the Manosphere and even the sexual sciences haven’t been revealing for over a decade now. Damore just had the balls to post it on what Google promoted as an anonymous inter-corporate intranet forum, ostensibly established to allow their employees to voice their opinions and concerns about the company in anonymity. Google is only one of many multi-national companies to have these forums set up in some lame effort to make it seem as if they value the opinions and engagement of their employees.
Now we see just how private and dangerous these forums really are to the livelihood of their employees. To be fair, I doubt that Damore is the first guy to get fired for expressing himself on one of these forums. I’m sure there’ve been countless other men shown the door by many companies with a lower profile than Google. What made Damore a target wasn’t so much Google from a corporate sense, but rather the ‘progressive’ feminine-primary corporate culture that is endemic to Google. Once Damore had published his very well-thought op-ed about the fundamental biological, psychological and neurological differences between men and women, and how this affects innovation and employment in the tech industry, the intra-corporate witch hunt was on for the guy who anonymously posted. No doubt Google code monkeys would have little problem identifying and doxxing James, but where this witch hunt stemmed from was far more likely his co-workers and fueled by the egalitarian-equalist, postmodernist mindset that pervades Google.
This is a snapshot of the Google corporate culture. The last gal, Danielle Brown is Google’s “Diversity VP”.
The official line from Google is that Damore’s “manifesto” constitutes a breach of Google’s code of conduct. Yet for all of Google’s insisting that they respect the right’s of speech within the company, Damore’s doxxing came from within Google’s corporate culture:
The employee memo — which was up for days without action by Google — went viral within the search giant’s internal discussion boards this weekend, with some decrying it and others defending it. Sources said the company’s top execs have been struggling with how to deal with it and the fallout, trying to decide if its troubling content crossed a line.
Apparently it did. In a memo to employees titled “Our words matter,” Google CEO Sundar Pichai said that the employee — who has been named on Twitter, although his identity could not be verified — had violated its code of conduct. (I am not publishing his name, because he — and others who disagree with him — have been threatened with violence online.)
Well, apparently James was doxxed identified and was threatened with violence both from within and without Google now. Thus, the predictable constitutional excuse that ‘you can say what you want, but you’ll be held accountable’ and Google was within its rights to fire Damore doesn’t hold water when Google promoted its internal forum as an anonymous place for employees to provide their input so the company can get honest feedback. I’m not a lawyer, but I think Google’s got a really sticky situation on their hands in that their actions technically constitute entrapment.
Furthermore, I get the feeling that Google’s campus is not unlike many other large corporate cultures – a core of skilled labor that actually puts numbers on the board as far as productivity is concerned working within a larger bureaucracy of basically superfluous positions that define the company’s corporate identity to the world around it. The writing on the wall now, that this skilled labor pool is seeing, is that this bureaucracy set of the company can have them fired for daring to voice a dissenting reality to their own ego-investments. How long before that talent pool opts for a more secure jobs in a corporate culture that looks less like the “people’s” revolution in China?
Now, all that said, James Damore, unwittingly or deliberately, has fallen into the trust-trap that I outlined back in 2013 in It’s Their Game. And while I think he’s got a pretty good case against Google, he had to have understood to some degree that Google owns his Frame. Perhaps this was his intent all along (nowhere have I seen how long he’d been employed there), but he was either very naive or very cunning in his in publishing his ‘memo’. Maybe he thinks this is his Atlas Shrugged moment, or maybe he actually bought the lie that Google (any company) cared about his employee feedback – that fact remains that the Feminine Imperative has assimilated every aspect of western society. The frame in which the overwhelming majority of men depend upon in their corporate, career, job, lives is one into which the Feminine Imperative seized social control over long ago.
For as much as it seems that standing up to systemic, calculated, postmodern ignorance is a heroic act of Red Pill aware defiance, never forget the insistent frame of the system you find yourself in. A lot of men in the ‘sphere like to tout the virtues of being ‘anti-fragile’ enough to weather the inevitable retaliations of the postmodern herd for their dissenting world view, and that may well be the case for a few men, but remember, everyone, with rare exception, is fragile about something – family, respect, integrity, personal relationships, the people who depend on him as well as his revenue (and the capacity to generate more) all apply.
Feminine Correctness
Every social, religious and corporate institution has been saturated with feminine-correctness. It’s important for Red Pill aware men to make this distinction because it will inform your decision making for as long as you remain in most corporate environments. I know many ideological and political factions like to trot out the idea about how they are against “Political Correctness”. That term, PC, has been with us for a long time now and its definition has been passed back and forth along political lines almost interchangeably for decades. Whatever it is one side isn’t allowed to address in public discourse becomes politically incorrect conversation. However, the distinction that conveniently (calculatedly) goes unnoticed is what I described as the Sisterhood Über Alles in my most recent book. Feminine Correctness permeates both sides of the political spectrum, but this is only one social arena amongst many where the appeasement of women’s perspectives as being the only correct perspective has been saturated.
Anyone who’s read my essay, Losing My Religion regarding how the Feminine Imperative has covertly (and recently overtly) assimilated authority of church culture – and ultimately doctrine – in mainstream religion can get an idea of what I’m talking about here with regard to corporate culture. The corporate workplace, big and small, has similarly been assimilated over the course of over six decades now; to the point that a feminine-primary influence has become a de facto authority under the premise of diversity, gender-neutrality and combating a presumed endemic male-sexism. All of which feed into the default, feminine-correct, presumption of female victimhood. Thus, we see the rise of the ubiquitous, almost universally female staffed, Human Resources departments whose true purpose is not about hiring, company morale or corporate culture, but rather an enforcement of feminine-correct initiatives and bylaws intended to give unquestioned authority to the feminine-correct social narrative.
In our modern corporate culture we’ve seen a meta-scale enforcement of what I termed Overseers in the Locker Room in my essay, Male Space:
Overseers in the Locker Room
The second purpose in the goal of female inclusion into male space is really a policing of the thought dynamics and attitudes of the men in that space. When women are allowed access to the locker room the dynamic of the locker room changes. The locker room can take many different shapes: the workplace environment, the sports team, the group of all-male coders, the primarily male scientific community, the ‘boys club’, the group of gamer nerds at the local game store, even strip clubs and the sanctuary you think your ‘man cave’ is – the context is one of women inserting themselves into male space in order to enforce the dictates of feminine social primacy.
When the influence of feminine-primacy is introduced into social settings made up mainly by men and male-interests, the dynamics and purpose of that group changes. The purpose becomes less about the endeavor itself and more about adherence to the feminine-inclusionary aspect of that endeavor. It starts to become less about being the best or most passionate at what they do, and more about being acceptable to the influence of the Feminine Imperative while attempting maintaining the former level of interest in the endeavor.
Men unaccustomed to having women in their midst generally react in two ways; According to their proper feminized conditioning, they embrace the opportunity to impress these ‘trailblazing’ women (hoping to be found worthy of intimacy) with their enthusiastic acceptance of, and identification with, their feminine overseer(s), or they become easy foils of an “out moded” way of thinking that the new ‘in-group’ happily labels them with.
Once the feminine-primary in-group dynamic is established a ‘feminine correct’ social frame follows. This feminine correction restructures the priorities of goals, and validates any accomplishments, in terms of how they reflect upon the feminine as a whole. Thus any in-group success is perceived as a feminine success in male space, while in-group failures or simple mediocrity is either dismissed entirely or blamed on out-group men’s failure to comply with, or the rejection of, the Feminine Imperative’s ‘correcting’ influence on the in-group.
In all honesty, Jame Damore’s rationales in his ‘memo’ were very measured, bordering on Blue Pill, in his attempts to preempt what he obviously knew would be a workplace viral insult. However, his experience is a high-profile illustration of how corporate culture has been taken hostage by a mindset fed and raised by the Feminine Imperative. When you consider that this is the corporate culture of a company dubiously responsible for global access to information – ostensibly legitimate, authoritative information by the larger populace – you begin to see the extent to which the imperative as assumed control not just of our social discourse, but the unquestionable authority to direct the acceptability of personal belief and critical thought.
When I wrote The First Female President, I attempted to reveal just how globally extensive the reach of the Feminine Imperative really was. So encompassing is the presumed understanding of feminine-correctness, so ensaturated is it into our societal subconscious that we tend to take its presence for granted until Hillary (the she) was denied the presidency (to the he). Then the societal scale outrage comes to the surface because what was presumed to be correct is not a universally accepted foreknowledge as their social subconscious had presumed was believed.
That outrage was on a geopolitical social scale, yet it was due to the same presumptions that cause the outrage we see over a kid at Google who dared to say ‘no’ not just to Google’s corporate culture, but to all corporate cultures that have been subsumed by the Feminine Imperative for over 60 years now. That any company would need a Vice President of Diversity is an indictment of how deeply embedded the Feminine Imperative is in corporate culture.
As an aside, perhaps not
Major natural gas leak close to my office in a dense urban area, huge issue, evacuations and that kind of thing.
Men working to resolve and contain the issue on the front line, at serious risk of getting blown up: 100 or so
Women: zero
Whereshitisreal
As you were saying….
He filed a complaint with the NLRB before he was fired.
That is very interesting. Perhaps he’s not the credulous naif after all, but rather knew he was not going to last very long and chose to entice Google into firing him in a certain way. Very, very interesting. We could see similar gambits at other companies, such as Yahoo, depending on how this plays out.
Has anyone with biology or psychology credentials wrote that this memo is bs? Or is it just journalists, social “scientists,” code “scientists”?
The actual scientists seem to support him – not necessarily conclusions, but they say his analysis of the science appears to be sound
http://quillette.com/2017/08/07/google-memo-four-scientists-respond/
One more funny thing about the gender gap in those industries is that it’s soon gonna get even bigger with the introduction of AI.
Why am I not surprised that Quillette, a well regarded, generally libertarian-leaning online magazine is currently experiencing a DDoS attack for posting this?
https://archive.is/VlNfl
Culum
Rishi Bhandari, a partner at New York law firm Mandel Bhandari who previously practiced in California, says Google’s position will likely be that it fired Damore because his memo antagonized coworkers and contained factual inaccuracies, making it unprofessional.
Not liking the answer is now “factual inaccuracy” or more to the point per Google CEO “not OK”…
Scientists be damned. No agreeing to disagree just NOT OK… OK?! Because the answer is wrong!!!
Shaping up to be a Scopes Monkey Trial battle of the experts. Rollo should be called as an expert witness.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz2YgjSA8Dg
Feminism “the eye in the sky that’s eating all the pie” hasn’t only hijacked “corporate culture has been taken hostage by a mindset fed and raised by the Feminine Imperative.” this it has also jacked the private sector down to the last pool boy. Don’t even think about discussing red pill or evo psych at work even nailing down shingles the tech is there to hear your every word,and the bosses wife likely runs the show. Worst case if you are alpha enough to piss off the blue pill boss he will go home and whine about you to his… Read more »
The beginning of the end starts with a question, not an answer. This is another strong blow (Trumpenkrieg the first) to the Equalists powers who would rather not entertain any questions on the issue. From the likes of you in particular. And you know who you are…
Great essay. I said as much in this compelling info-graphic that explains the Google Anti-Diversity Memo controversy :
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGzjl1fUIAANrWw?format=jpg
Memesters going off the hook. Lolz
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SEDuVF7kiPU&feature=youtu.be
http://imgur.com/a/O7Jlt
@kfg I sort of agree with you. If I had to put it in some pithy way, I would say civilization is beta. Rosa Luxemburg was unwittingly right when she wrote “socialism or barbarism”. The ‘sexual socialism’ represented by monogamy and virgin marriage is over. I wonder what type of barbarism awaits us. I guess the ubiquitous tattoos are the harbinger of it. I think that ultimately all boils down to the fact that you can not have it all. A first-world population will be naturally more sheltered and protected, becoming “softer” as a result, and more so in the… Read more »
Anon01 wins the thread.
@Oscar
Rosa Luxemburg was unwittingly right when she wrote “socialism or barbarism”.
only from a fem-centric point of view…guess which side she’s on? do you think you might have some more unplugging to do?
@ Agent P ” Are you kidding me? you are missing the whole fucking Meta-point, there is a huge difference between those two. One Capitalists know they need you alive and well to feed their machine. Marxists on the other hand do not, they brook no dissent as demonstrated and they do not in the least value the individual. Marxism has a well worn history of destroying civilizations and cultures because its only about power and never about TRUTH. Marxists of any stripe can be identified by their denial of reality and that can include small details like mass starvation… Read more »
@Oscar
There is a lot of talk in the right-wing blogosphere about Eastern Europe being much more manly than its Western counterpart, about it being such a hope… the reality is that nobody wants to go there because they are poorer.
We can call this the ‘Heartiste paradox’. The West is the best, but our success paves the way for our own undoing.
you must be young
Why do American women get so angry when you show through data, charts, graphs, and studies that the gender wage gap and the gender disparities in the sciences and tech world are not caused by sexism or hatred of women?
You would think they would take it as good news that men don’t hate women.
@Oscar @kfg
I sort of agree with you. If I had to put it in some pithy way, I would say civilization is beta.
When betas have high status, civilization grows. When they have low status, civilization declines and fem-centrism grows. (I like betas. Some of my best friends are betas. XD)
@ Bachelorocles
Because data, charts, graphs, and studies are Dog language.
,,,, never tried to fuck a chick by showing her a graph.
@Blaximus
Do you really need a footnote stating I’m not doing it at the club but kinda referring to the swarm that ate Damore’s job.
Lol
Cheers lol
Nothing like politics to bring out the dumb fuck in supposedly smart dudes Of course populism is class warfare. It is a direct response to the economic warfare umc and up wage on working class/ middle class folks so take your fake moral superiority and shove it up your already overly lose ass All of life is some version of warfare. Every group is after it’s own self interests 1st and fore most. Socialism is all about the upper class staying on top. Always was, always will be which is why so many rich folk like that soros jew support… Read more »
Also the Romans were a lot of bad ass things, but I wouldn’t call them civilized. Unless you want to call genocide and what not civil
“There is More than One Red Pill out there. You think you’ve only been lied to about women?
Fiat money
Main stream media
Corporate welfare
Geopolitics
That’s just for starters.
Beginning in the late 18th century and lasting well into the 19th century, the industrial revolution created a burgeoning middle class and significantly increased the ranks of the upper class. http://www.industrialrevolutionresearch.com/industrial_revolution_classes_of_people.php This “success” (pronounced “suck” “cess”) effectively removed millions of women from responsible productive “roles” as mothers and wives. Most women, prior to this time, were forced by necessity and the demands of nature (not the oppressive evil “patriarchy”) to participate in the shared labor of providing for, raising, and protecting family. Their effective contributions were somewhat less physically stressful than men’s no doubt. However, they had to contribute, otherwise… Read more »
@Blax @Ton It is now 2017, and practically everything has morphed and combined and completely turned into something else. Live in the past at your own peril. Bull fucking shit…Blax is pumping out the standard leftist bullshit…if Blax is correct, then your people and clan don’t matter because your people have morphed into something different…think about that, Ton The political camps (true since the 1960s) The right: nationalists free market capitalists confederalists hawks isolationists (these favored fascists and didn’t want the U.S. in WW2 and some didn’t want European entanglements after WW1 and even before that) nationalists free market capitalists… Read more »
@ Ton
Of course populism is class warfare. It is a direct response to the economic warfare umc and up wage on working class/ middle class folks so take your fake moral superiority and shove it up your already overly lose ass
you been getting golden showered in the latrine again by Blax’s populist piss?
@ads About Rosa, sure she was a feminist or proto-feminist, but I was not really endorsing her, just borrowing a phrase of hers meant for another context. I think it is mistaken to assume red pill always correlates with right-wing. On a personal level, and in America, maybe. But in the larger context you are more likely to have second thoughts about capitalism (as it is, not the ideal), a bit like Blaximus does in this thread. I have a hard time believing that we are where we are because some obscure German professors decided one day to fuck up… Read more »
” unlike what you wrote, Blax, the problem isn’t corporations…lots of corporations are small and medium-sized businesses that don’t have their boots on anyone’s throat..” Lol, you know what I;m talking about. If you really don’t – there’s the problem. And you make my point about the whole Label shit by calling me a leftist. You can’t actually think about what I’ve said because your mind is beholden to an idea… like romantic love or something… so you MUST Label me in terms that are situationally derogatory. Shitty way to argue a point. Standard fare. But it’s cool. List away.… Read more »
Socialism is all about the upper class staying on top.
I run into hordes of LMCs who are socialists through and through. Hordes. Unmotivated nerds in dead end jobs. Hippies. Animal rights idiots. Eco-wackos. Single women. Government slugs. Union people. It’s the UMC men that you piss on who have been fighting socialism. Most people on the right are UMCs.
Some UMC folks scared shitless of any kind of ” populism ” because it is a real threat to them.
Why so threatened? ( rhetorical )
What are you afraid of?
Losing your shit? Tell me, what makes you so special?
For shits and giggles asd, label this thought for me : Men should be able to earn a fare wage for work that is an actual living/livable wage. Men working 40 hours or more a week should be able to provide for themselves.
That’s what I believe. What’s my label?
Free market capitalism.
Lulz…
That must be some really good shit you’re smoking.
Look behind the curtain.
@Bachelorocles
Anybody else here ( besides me ) whose earnings qualify them as UMC care to explain to me why it seems many UMC’s have such hatred for working people?
I’ll wait….
Bachelorecles
Do you really need a footnote stating I’m not doing it at the club but kinda referring to the swarm that ate Damore’s job.
Are Google girls somehow different from all other girls?
How do your mere facts and charts explain their feelze?
Blaximus
…why it seems many UMC’s have such hatred for working people?
Crab bucket combined with pull-the-ladder-up-quick mindset?
“All of life is some version of warfare.” There ya go. “the Romans were a lot of bad ass things, but I wouldn’t call them civilized.” Living in cities. Social hierarchy with an adminstrative/ruling class. Literature. That is civilization. I make some exceptions for literature. The Kelts were a civilization without a literature, because they had something like a religious aversion to it, not because they were ignorant of it. The Romans weren’t really big on genocide. They were much more into making submit and taking their stuff. Carthage was a particular exception for particular reasons. And the destruction of… Read more »
@ AR
Ding!!!
Winner!! winner!!, chicke… I mean Lobster dinner.
“For shits and giggles asd, label this thought for me : Men should be able to earn a fare wage for work that is an actual living/livable wage. Men working 40 hours or more a week should be able to provide for themselves.”
the word ‘should’ is problematic since it implies some sort of obligation for some ‘entity’ to do something; so I’d want clarification… is it up to the man or up to society/laws/businesses/etc. to make it happen?
makes all the difference in the world
Blaximus
What’s my label?
Man, I’m gonna have to go out to the garage and rummage through some boxes to get the right Dymo labeler out for this job. It’s gonna take a while. Or I could subcontract the job to Google- but they’d just call you a Nazi, so meh. Maybe you’re a Teddy Roosevelt Square Dealer or a 1920’s French Distributionist, I dunno. Gotta go open some dusty boxes for sure.
@Oscar I have a hard time believing that we are where we are because some obscure German professors decided one day to fuck up our societies. Socialism has been a movement for centuries…it was a gleam in the eyes of the Spartans…some French and Scottish socialists were active in developing it back in the 17th century…as I’ve said before, socialists are true believers and very organized…socialists have been working slowly and incrementally for centuries…Marx was a big ping on the radar, but most socialist work before him was hidden…socialists were very active in the French revolution and in the strikes… Read more »
Dr. Z
I’d say it’s up to society and business.
As it is now, society has been trained to shit on the less fortunate working poor ( oxymoron if I ever heard one ), so there has to be a shift in society’s mindset.
Or we can all just give zero fucks as we are awash in underemployed millennials living at home forever.
But business will never, ever move without the gentle nudge of broader society.
@ AR
… I always fancied myself as a 1800’s Bushwacker myself.
I want to hear some cuddly bedtime stories about the underlying fundamentals of our economy: banking.
Anybody got some heart warming stories about the free market capitalist Federal Reserve?
@Blax
Anybody else here ( besides me ) whose earnings qualify them as UMC care to explain to me why it seems many UMC’s have such hatred for working people?
that hatred…reminds me of the squashass…bigfoot…chupacabre…never seen it…but I have seen lots of snobbery by LMCs against UMCs…I have lots of acquaintances who are LMCs and they aren’t quiet about their populist snobbery
when idiots push their populist class warfare, that gets UMCs riled up against them…of course, those same idiots then conclude that UMCs hate the LMC, but that’s rubbish…not all LMCs are populist snobs
I have problems with the word “should” as well. It’s an ideal. I don’t think it is achievable. Some men simply cannot achieve that much value.
Yeah, I hate the way the poor wield all that political influence and attack the rich.
” that hatred…reminds me of the squashass…bigfoot…chupacabre…never seen it…but I have seen lots of snobbery by LMCs against UMCs…I have lots of acquaintances who are LMCs and they aren’t quiet about their populist snobbery ”
Motherfuckin’ Thread Winner Right Here.
See Lewis Carroll; Sylvie and Bruno.
@Blax Men should be able to earn a fare wage for work that is an actual living/livable wage. Men working 40 hours or more a week should be able to provide for themselves. Blue Pill populism…who the fuck guarantees that you will get a fair wage or where in the constitution are you guaranteed that…it’s up to men to strive for their own happiness…it’s never guaranteed…freedom doesn’t mean you get to avoid risk…it’s the male burden of performance we have socialists conspiring with big business to lower wages by importing cheap labor…the cheap labor differential is a temporary situation and… Read more »
@Blax
Yeah, I hate the way the poor wield all that political influence and attack the rich.
They attack the UMCs, not the rich…get your facts straight…the UMCs bear the brunt of the personal taxes…socialists use populism to attack the UMCs…the UMCs are the proletariat…standard socialist theory…SSDD…oh, but wait, there aren’t any socialists or liberals or progressives any more, my bad
blax – Not on board with that society/business mandated to provide for a man…. in my book, legislating societal change (social engineering) win/loss ration is around 1:infinity; any entity (like gov’t) with the power of lethal force or ruining your life (financially, legal system) should be quarantined from any such thing; vote with your dollar to change businesses and if society needs changing, it’ll have to be one man at a time but that label stuff is right on…. I know things have to be labeled in order to fucking communicate and define the world…. and then the labels themselves… Read more »
*win/loss ratio
So, there’s no conspiring to put downward pressure on wages for the last 20 years or so? Have you seen the data? At all? http://www.nathanlustig.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/bls-real-wage-struggle.gif I refuse to believe that you haven’t heard about wage stagnation, as it’s been thoroughly written/talked about. Even Warren Buffett, that stark raving socialist, has spoken of it. I say 40 hours of work should earn you enough to live without assistance, just like it used to do. Men worked in factories with high school educations and bought homes and raised families 30 years ago. Only people who aren’t worried about such things say shit… Read more »
Making a living wage at 40hrs a week isn’t the working class problem.The larger problem is making a legal wage. What with mandatory car insurance or go to jail,health insurance or pay a $2000. fine epa regs.nevermind child support or lose your driving and hunting privledges.
Then get your hours dropped to 30hrs a week to meet part time regs and save the company fines,now you need to work two jobs at 60hrs and they both want to own you. Wages aren’t as big an issue as legislature that disregards working class.
@kfg
Living in cities. Social hierarchy with an adminstrative/ruling class.
a legal system, but no police…Athens had police…funny that the Romans didn’t like that idea
The Romans weren’t really big on genocide. They were much more into making submit and taking their stuff.
enslavement of the populations of cities that resisted and looting and destruction of the cities…those cities that cooperated joined the Roman Empire and got some sort of Roman oversight…especially paying taxes, lol
Karthago delenda est!
Raising working class wage increases monetary velocity 1to1 unlike stimulus packages that end up in the banks hands.
Working class have no disposable income,an little hope to stop disposing it.
What a shit show of jerking off about politics. It’s no different than the bottoms up approach to take on the FI. The bitching about socialism, Marxism, capitalism etc…. matters not one fucking bit.
The men behind the scenes will pull the levers they want to move capital, create populist movements and throw gas on the flames and create diversions. Standard operating procedure.
@ stuff ” Wages aren’t as big an issue as legislature that disregards working class. ” But why is the working class disregarded? Who benefits? Since I’ve been in corporate atmosphere, on 2 separate occasions I’ve seen it come down from on high to cut workers hours below 40, so they could be classified as part time, and lose their vacation and benefits. Twice, 2 different companies, both very profitable at the time they were doing this shit. Those profits weren’t earned by the suits in the headquarters btw. Moar!!!!!!! Everybody disregards the working class. Hell, even the working class… Read more »
“The men behind the scenes will pull the levers they want to move capital, create populist movements and throw gas on the flames and create diversions. Standard operating procedure.”
Next step cut their own throats,when they get what they want and still not happy.
“Anybody else here ( besides me ) whose earnings qualify them as UMC care to explain to me why it seems many UMC’s have such hatred for working people?”
Not seen this at all. If anything working people are venerated, held up as examples…
The phrase “the world needs ditch diggers” is thrown out not as a dig, but motivation.
Besides they are necessary – you can’t have betters without lessers…
Now the indolent poor… Well it’s been said poor people have poor ways.
Blax
“That’s what I believe. What’s my label?”
Fantasist? Or Benevolent Ruler.
Pick one.
“But why is the working class disregarded? Who benefits?”
Aristotle nichomachean ethics,”the highest form of science is political science as it must understand and include all the other sciences”.
Our politicians neither understand nor regard where the bread and butter come from,rather live on borrowed money and time.
Nobody benefits.
“I hate the way the poor wield all that political influence and attack the rich.”
While the dems have a sizable uber rich contingent, the votes are garnered via poorer populations… Putting aside legality of the voters…
@Blax Even Warren Buffett, that stark raving socialist Is he mega rich? Then he’s probably a socialist. What contributes to the downward pressures on wages? 1. Women in the work force in increasing percentages and raw numbers–much higher today than in 1960 2. Illegal immigrants reducing labor costs–much higher today than in 1960 (they were mostly farm laborers back then) 3. Offshoring–much higher from 1990-2008 than in 1960 4. increased green card limits–much higher today than in 1960 5. Automated factories–much higher today than in 1960 I don’t have a problem with saying that Soros and Buffett benefit from socialist… Read more »
” Only people who aren’t worried about such things say shit like ” who the fuck guarantees that you will get a fair wage …”.”
Filed under Conversations Never Had on the Deck of a Pirate Ship… Cause it’s just not believable.
You can’t believe that Blax. And in burden.
@Blax
Since I’ve been in corporate atmosphere, on 2 separate occasions I’ve seen it come down from on high to cut workers hours below 40, so they could be classified as part time, and lose their vacation and benefits. Twice, 2 different companies, both very profitable at the time they were doing this shit.
All companies were doing this all of a sudden…right after Obamacare passed…I’m sure that is just coincidental…no cause and effect there…nothing to see, move along, move along
” Putting aside legality of the voters..”
The urban myth that will not die. Written by ” an urbanite “.
“What contributes to the downward pressures on wages?”
Again probably the largest factor is legislation,the cost of doing business includes MSHA,OSHA,Workers comp,unemployment,Mandatory health care,PC,Sensitivity training,Might as well keep a law firm on retainer. Now ad in competition and market value competing with countries that don’t actually try to be fair to workers.
Although it is amazing to see so many bad loans made and rewarded with bonuses,and bailouts following colapse.
Ceo’s only made about 20-40 times more than the workers, instead of 400 times what workers made.
the politics of envy and class warfare…if they are paid so much more relatively today, then probably socialist policies made it that way…govt. fucking around with banks, interest rates, credit, the Fed, etc.
How did they fight against leftist? By voting for”Right wing” Nixon who gave is the EPA, took us off the gold standard etc? By voting for the “Right wing” Regan who gave us massive debt, the MLK holiday, amnesty, failed to follow through on his promise to end the Departments of Education and Energy? By voting for the “right wing” bushes? McCain? Romney? There is no right wing and hasn’t been one since the war of northern aggression, every vote was for any one but Wallace was a vote for the left, so try again on a rational counter arguement… Read more »
“All companies were doing this all of a sudden…right after Obamacare ”
One way to cure unemployment stats,cut everyone to part time thereby increasing the number of jobs by 33%
Now ad in competition and market value competing with countries that don’t actually try to be fair to workers.
You mean those auto plants in Mexico have lots of accidents? And they don’t have to worry about pollution? Say it ain’t so!
” All companies were doing this all of a sudden…right after Obamacare passed…I’m sure that is just coincidental…no cause and effect there…nothing to see, move along, move along ” The instance I’m speaking of happened 25 years before obamacare, Sheeesshhh…. Didn’t notice it huh? Not until it spirals out some? ” What contributes to the downward pressures on wages? 1. Women in the work force in increasing percentages and raw numbers–much higher today than in 1960 ” True. But not the full picture. ” 2. Illegal immigrants reducing labor costs–much higher today than in 1960 (they were mostly farm laborers… Read more »
They don’t like us Blax because we are a threat to their economic and social standing. You should see some of the reactions when they find out a high school drop out makes more money then them…. though to be fair I have never seen that expression from a skilled UMC worker like an engineer or doctor. It’s always from the non skilled umc, who are the ones most at risk
In defense of Google’s position, history shows that the majority supported ethnocentric dialectic springs from cis-male Eurocentric common law in the suppression of female and racial minority democratic disenfranchisement. In the year 2017 female and transgendered – but not yet gender fluid historical norms – are no longer suppressed at a strictly defined pan institutional level that is hierarchy dependent. A history of micro-aggressive permissiveness towards woman and minorities changes the environmental factors affecting imposition of patriarchal tyranny upon which the tech industry is founded upon. This is clearly the goal of cutting edge diversity pledges within fully scripted corporate… Read more »
@Ton By voting for”Right wing” Nixon who gave is the EPA, took us off the gold standard etc? Nixon was only considered right wing in his war policies…otherwise he was a socialist. By voting for the “Right wing” Regan who gave us massive debt, the MLK holiday, amnesty, failed to follow through on his promise to end the Departments of Education and Energy? Reagan couldn’t get his military budgets passed without all the shit that the socialists….er, democrats, forced him to accept…I was alive and voting and you were still in school at the time, junior By voting for the… Read more »
So what you are saying is they haven’t done shit. Not a single one of those fuckers were right wing. But here you are, trying to defend the indefesinable
The problem with conservatives is they are trying to conserve liberal ideals from 20 years pass so are in effect slow motion liberals but your whole self identity is tied up in the political blue pill so you can’t fathom reality
@ Ton Lol. There is more of a threat to their economic and social standing than they are aware of because they live in isolated bliss. Maybe we see things different because we had to figure out how to make shit work. How to really have the skills to earn. To not be blinded by others bullshit. Something like that. Money is a tool, plain and simple. Some folks mistakenly believe it makes them ” better ” in some manner. Delusion. If the banks explode tomorrow and the FDIC says ” go fuck yourself and your deposits “, I’ll just… Read more »
Wow Leon
“patriarchal tyranny upon which the tech industry is founded upon.”Really?
I haven’t increased any green card limits lately, so who is doing this and why? Bill Gates and others of his ilk pushed for this. I saw it at the company I last worked for. They also offshored and downsized their U.S. workforce, including me. The foreign workers produced code that was very difficult to maintain and understand and was generally shitty. But Asia produced millions of IT degrees in 2008. So, yeah, I understand this and have been affected by it. Fuck you. Ton, lol. I know you’re reading this. I bet Ton’s dad knew someone in a farming… Read more »
Left = Right.
Goodnight all.
Perhaps Blax. I don’t need to know the why of it, it is enough to know they are hostile toward me and mine.
@Ton
The problem with conservatives is they are trying to conserve liberal ideals from 20 years pass so are in effect slow motion liberals
I’ve been saying the same shit since you were in elementary…
but your whole self identity is tied up in the political blue pill so you can’t fathom reality
get that cranio rectotomy done ASAP
PS-
Lol, asd you don’t know shit about me.
Goodnight.
Again.
You know less then the corn in my turds
@Ton
Perhaps Blax. I don’t need to know the why of it, it is enough to know they are hostile toward me and mine.
You declared war on me and mine when we weren’t attacking you or looking for trouble…your own aggression started this because of fucking populist stupidity…socialist pawns.
LOL there you go, showing your ignorance again
“what happens to a consumer driven economy once you’ve destroyed the purchasing power of the consumers?”
Soylent Green.
They don’t like us Blax because we are a threat to their economic and social standing.
Fucking delusional…
@stuffinbox,
Yes, historical cultural underpinnings dictate our subconscious reality that manifests itself upon oppressive frameworks; this includes patriarchal tyrannical systems that we are all a part of whether we acknowledge this reality or not. The tech industry as a collective hierarchy with pretense of merit based movement is a smoke screen for patriarchal subterfuge. It is clear to all who acknowledge reality.
@Blax
That’s the plan going forward, and the companies profits rise every. single. year.
2008…Bear, Sterns…GM…Lehman Brothers…Washington Mutual…Citigroup…Chrysler…hordes of bankruptcies
Really good read
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2017/08/09/is-marriage-the-cause-of-sexual-immorality
Red pill existence http://sanskritdocuments.org/marathi/ebooks/S1.pdf Culture and masculinity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqyy48w2c98 There is illusion, and there is reality. When you are young, say, you know, 21 years old, being 40 or 50 is as abstract as science-fiction. You are sitting there and you are invincible. It’s all ahead of you. You are a horse with blinders. And you only see ahead as you whip yourself into a frenzy of “forward”. At some point, something, turns those blinders anywhere. A stumble here, a failed relationship there. A change… You creep past age 30 and patterns emerge. Comforting, killing, at the same time. Experience and… Read more »
Leon
If this were true they would have given James a bonus for pointing out the truth of womens unequal brain capacity for IT jobs.
Rather since we operate under a Matriarchal main culture he was fired for disrespecting his sisters.