My bf mentioned that we would get married after he graduated, so I had the idea that we would be married by the end of this Summer. In that way, we were pretty much engaged, in a way. But it was wishful thinking, I admit.
Redlight, so that is you? Is that really true?
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kfg
7 years ago
@Emily: ” . . .I lied.”
We know.
In fact, like the previous, we told you before you told us.
This isn’t the first time you’ve been caught in a lie by a long shot.
But it’s the most gobsmacking example to date.
At this point I’m wondering if there actually is or was a boyfriend or if he’s just some guy you’ve been stalking and making up stories about.
No way to tell. It has been interesting though.
Wow.
Well, if just thinking of opening can help, perhaps I should try imagining opening and it being successful. Before going into venue, take a few minutes to imagine opening, sexualizing/adding emotional spikes, and it working. Also, think of the times I was successful in the past. And when I was in state. Keep focusing on beatboxing and humming early on, since I do that when I am in state. Do the meditation that tyler talks about — just clearing thoughts for 30 min. Early on in day. Try to do more exercise before — but is tricky with health issues.… Read more »
Emily
7 years ago
Lololol, why the hell would I stalk ANY guy? I’ve been with him for a long time now, but you can believe what you like.
Anyway, shut the fuck up Liz. Go back to being a doormat for your husband, you are going over your allowed computer time.
Good question. I approach in order to demonstrate that I am the prize. Rejections allow me to demonstrate that I am the prize. I am not a passive prize, but an active prize. (I do get approached sometimes…usually once a night by a HB6+.)
Gamer’s Sexual Economic Theory (tl;dr version)
Pussy is a fungible commodity to alphas. You can’t give away beta dick. Alpha dick is prized more than pussy when alphas DHV.
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scray
7 years ago
@theMan insinuates that your sentiment is that your manliness in contingent on success with women. Wrong order based on what your opinion? Maslow didn’t think so….learning how to meet your sexual needs is way before you self-actualize as a man. according to Maslow you can’t even have any real self-esteem until you can fuck some women. you are NOT a real MAN until you can fuck WOMEN. sorry. thought experiment. do you think a male virgin is more or less of a man? the natural response is LESS. many would say he is not even a MAN yet. we can… Read more »
Funny thing, I forgot this til now…was holding the door for people for maybe 20 secs…some girls didn’t thank me and got scolded by other girls and one girl touched me on the arm and thanked me as she passed, lol Funny how frame shows thru even when you act with chivalry and girls see it and respond. I was dressed in dark gray jeans, black cap, a black and white plaid shirt with snaps, and black boots. Maybe looked a little scary and my actions were a contrast. The girls’ appreciative responses were very cool. Wish I’d hugged them… Read more »
do you think a male virgin is more or less of a man?
Irrelevant. I think that Christ was an amazing man. Heroic stature and a virgin. Maslow has a right to his opinion, but it’s all sociological guesswork.
@scray, @wildman https://therationalmale.com/2013/06/26/you-need-sex/ Life Experience If I said I felt pity for men like the blogger I mentioned earlier, who through their own conviction or bad circumstance, have never had sex in their lives, I don’t think I’d be accurate in expressing myself. I feel a profound sadness for them; a sadness similar to when you meet someone who’s lost a limb or has had to live with a physical or mental disability. For guys who want to tell you that you don’t need sex to live a fulfilling life I’m sure this sounds like conceit. There are plenty of… Read more »
Anyone wanna bet that Emily has never scolded other girls for not thanking a man for holding a door for them. I’d bet money that Liz has done so. Liz speaks up about false rape accusations in the military. Scolding girls for unthankfulness wouldn’t be far removed from that.
If men WANT sex and are virgins, then they are lesser men. Immature at least.
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scray
7 years ago
@thasdegamer
Irrelevant. I think that Christ was an amazing man. Heroic stature and a virgin. Maslow has a right to his opinion, but it’s all sociological guesswork.
weird to reference the story of jesus as fact and dismiss Maslow as ‘guesswork.’
our belief systems are too far apart on this one i think. to me, jesus and a lot of that is just mythmaking — if there was an actual man.
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Sentient
7 years ago
So little Emmy tries to play hide the vagina to coerce a marraige proposal from her not so beta guy… And when that fails she tries let’s you and he fight with their mutual friend… And when that fails he dumps her…
And the Hamster keeps on spinnin on.
LOL
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Sentient
7 years ago
Scray
If a virgin man has sex with a prostitute is he a man or not?
@scray The key to reasonable belief is whether there is rigorous examination of eyewitnesses. We have that in experimental physics where the physics journals report the observations of eyewitnesses and those reports undergo rigorous scrutiny. Christianity likewise had rigorous examination of eyewitnesses. Jewish culture required rigorous scrutiny of eyewitnesses as well and the early church was almost entirely Jewish for the first 15 years at least. Hence, the early church would have put its eyewitnesses (the apostles) to some rigorous questioning, which we find mentioned in Acts 4 & 8. There are also the eight quotations of the Law’s requirements… Read more »
The key to reasonable belief is whether there is rigorous examination of eyewitnesses.
that’s a pretty huge opinion to assert….and it’s one I don’t share. both on the key to ‘reasonable belief’ and how rigorous the eyewitnesses wrt ‘Christ’ were examined
Christianity likewise had rigorous examination of eyewitnesses.
lol yeah we have different meanings of the word ‘rigorous.’
You ventured into an area in which I have done spergy investigation, lol.
imagine a world where two people could reasonably investigate something and disagree. rejoice! that’s the world we live in.
I often scroll past emily’s crap but today this linkshe put up caught my eye. For those who did not see it, read it. It is a splendid link to put up, one that even rollo himself would post.
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The Man
7 years ago
OK Scray – just to set the record straight for where I am coming from personally, I have never had a problem getting with a woman if I decide that is important. And I have had 1,000’s and 1,000’s of fucks in my life as per the usual. I also have never had a problem otherwise getting my sexual needs met (and I need release very very frequently – don’t know why exactly – always been like that – and the way I see it it seems to be a hallmark of the overall state of my health – so… Read more »
scray
7 years ago
@theMan I have never had a problem getting with a woman if I decide that is important. And I have had 1,000’s and 1,000’s of fucks in my life as per the usual okay, then what exactly are you disagreeing with me about. you literally are coming from a place of ‘well now that I can get legions of pussy, I can define myself as a man in other ways’ okay….and how is this different from what i said? therefore if you are sticking to your guns wrt defining manliness as contingent on success with women – no – believing… Read more »
kfg
7 years ago
” . . . one that even rollo himself would post.”
It is one of a type, no different from each other than snowflakes, which is to say that except for irrelevant differences they are all the same.
Rollo has already discussed one of type.
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Johnycomelately
7 years ago
Rollo
I’d love to see your take on this recent piece and it’s relation to the FI.
Seems like caterwauling by epiphany stagers not getting their beta bucks from men eschewing buying homes for a more minimalist and experience based lifestyle. Apparently not owning things is sexist.
YaReally, that makes you king of the sexists.
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redlight
7 years ago
@Johnycomelately on June 28, 2016 at 4:52 pm
Rollo is doing that after the next one
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Blaximus
7 years ago
@ The Man You wrote something that had me thinking for quite a while – ” Maybe the people haven’t changed so much as the “authority” as changed. it is only normal for healthy people to abhor the coercion of “authorities”. But back in the 1960’s, the authorities were much more on right on the political spectrum, than today. The rallying of the people for their rightful human liberties (expression of self agency as our rightful liberty), in the face of the dominance, coercion, and contempt of the “authorities” was so successful that the the ideological mindset of the authorities… Read more »
kfg
7 years ago
“No center pull in sight.”
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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Blaximus
7 years ago
@ kfg
Precisely. I dig that.
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hank holiday
7 years ago
went out today. mall in bad city.
but already getting burned out of the venues. don’t really want to go to these places besides to practice.
last two days there have been zero girls i liked.
also been stopping by some department stores, but same issue. zero girls i like.
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Blaximus
7 years ago
@ hank
My man!!!!!
Sounds like it’s time for some Night Fever. Time to locate some bars or clubs and see what’s what there.
Always remember, there are billions of chicks. Billions I say!!! it is only a matter of time until you locate them…or some of them, not billions at once because they’re kinda spread out.
Don’t get burned out man, just breath deep and relax a little bit.
Ease your mind bro.
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The Man
7 years ago
Scray: “you literally are coming from a place of ‘well now that I can get legions of pussy, I can define myself as a man in other ways’” Well, this abundance mentality is a funny thing – you know the dick tends to say to the brain – hey bro – what have you done for my lately. Ah – but the brain says to the cock – hey dickhead – who is in control here? See what I am saying. Look – it is damaging to OCD-prone young guys to tell them they are worthless if they don’t get… Read more »
Kate
7 years ago
“The Princess Experience”
Thought it was going to be a guest post by a red pill woman.
Guys that have not gotten pussy are in no way worthless. Not by any stretch of the imagination. That’s not what scray was saying at all. I good at readin’ and all. lol…. Part of being a man is having sex with a woman. Call it a Rite of Passage if it must be labeled for argument’s sake. The desire is biologically hardwired. Having sex is not Nirvana, but it pretty fucking close initially. Off the top of my head, I can’t think of many things that one could consider a benchmark for manhood other than sex with a woman.… Read more »
I found my college gf through a male friend. Make lots of male friends and they may introduce you to a girl you like.
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Blaximus
7 years ago
@ asd
” More like instigated by Soviet agents via the media, campus organizations, labor, and useful young idiots (of which I was one).”
Not in all cases man. Not at all. That’s a widely accepted Romanticized version. I believe that the whole ” soviet influence ” thing was more of an exception as opposed to being a hard and fast rule.
Jews are known for being the least capable lawyers, so I’m with you on laughing at their ability to question witnesses. I mean, you know, Jews are all so stupid when it comes to verbal stuff.
All you had to do was examine who funded various events. It was published in newspapers. Sure, not everything was done by Soviets, but they typically started the ball rolling. The elites were in the pockets of the Soviets–media, Hollywood, labor, academia.
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The Man
7 years ago
Hey Blax – if a young guy is having problems getting the pussy ….. maybe he should just go see a pro that specializes in that sort of thing. For many such young guys – that’l probably fix his head enough he can get on with things (he might need a few visits though). This rights of passage for men thing – if most of that is being eliminated, and then women hold the access to the remaining one – the safety valve for that, by way of the prostitute, might be a necessity for some. But after fixing his… Read more »
Remember how the John Birch Society was vilified for pointing out the dangers of the Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, etc.? The elites even laughed at the Birchers, claiming that those organizations didn’t even exist. The Birchers’ claims are no longer considered fringe, even though the Birchers’ rep has suffered from all the propaganda.
The Trilateral Commission and Bilderbergers are run by the elites. No one doubts that anymore and only the naïve think that those organizations don’t wield tremendous influence. The Birchers may have magnified their influence, but not their danger.
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Blaximus
7 years ago
@ The Man Lol. I don’t think a guy always has to fix his head to get/have sex. He needs understanding and reasoning to go along with his natural drive. Idk, I don’t get that scray is saying sex defines a guy’s manliness. I take what he’s saying as, sex is one defining factor. An important defining factor. scray is talking about a lack of success insofar as a lack of trying or gaining understanding. That’s where I thought the discussion began, the talk about some men not needing or wanting sex, and the debunking of that train of thought.… Read more »
I couldn’t remember the name of the Council on Foreign Relations that was also considered dangerous by the JBS. The Southern Poverty Law Center is another organization that I consider very dangerous.
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Blaximus
7 years ago
@ asd ” Remember how the John Birch Society was vilified for pointing out the dangers of the Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, etc.? The elites even laughed at the Birchers, claiming that those organizations didn’t even exist. The Birchers’ claims are no longer considered fringe, even though the Birchers’ rep has suffered from all the propaganda. The Trilateral Commission and Bilderbergers are run by the elites. No one doubts that anymore and only the naïve think that those organizations don’t wield tremendous influence. The Birchers may have magnified their influence, but not their danger.” Man, we could get into a very… Read more »
Blaximus
7 years ago
” The Southern Poverty Law Center is another organization that I consider very dangerous.”
Lol. see? As a son of the south, I have the opposite opinion.
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The Man
7 years ago
Blax – yeah the war on drugs and the mass incarceration strategy are two of the dumbest things I have seen in my life time. Shit like this fuels people’s wonderings about behind the scenes puppet-masters and such …. and dark dark conspiracy theories about the future. But it is probably just dumb humans being dumb. Hey – like I was alluding to in my comment way above – maybe the solution is ……… getting better at recognizing when rightful human liberties like the expression of self agency, are being trampled by way of the dominance, coercion, and contempt of… Read more »
The SPLC started off Ok, but it was commandeered and sent in some dangerous directions.
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Blaximus
7 years ago
@ The Man I too believe that focusing on mastering game is very important for men, because ” game ” is much more far reaching in managing one’s life, than ” just ” for having sex with women. Re: People respecting other’s rights or whatever, It is an awful life strategy for a man to depend upon the kindness or understanding of others in any way. If a man gets respect and kindness in some automatic fashion, that’s just a plus. Respect is either earned or taken. You either speak up for your rights, or watch them vanish. Pretty much,… Read more »
Johnycomelately
7 years ago
Concerning the NewRublic article linked above, it seems like the minimalist man is the new incarnation of a counterweight to the FI. Minimalism is the perfect exposition of the mental point of origin, my life, my money for me and my journey sans societal expectations, no epiphany beta bucks nesting accoutrements. Experience over things. The modern version of the vilified Victorian dandy. It stands against the modern tide of ‘things’ representing identity and increases signalling noise for beta bucks status identification. The princess gets to play house while Prince Charming is out having the time of his life. An an… Read more »
The Man
7 years ago
Blax – yes correct – legislating something like common human decency is very tricky. But my point about ….. let’s call it the standard golden-rule suite of personal convictions …… is that such personal convictions provide one with personal power to better recognize when authority is being abused …. and earlier recognition by the populace would be very helpful …… us living in democracies and all ……. and the human tendency to otherwise kneejerk to memetics (as expounded by Bernays for instance). We each have to be more savvy so we collectively can be more savvy wrt earlier recognition of… Read more »
hank holiday
7 years ago
@blax @asd Sounds like it’s time for some Night Fever. Time to locate some bars or clubs and see what’s what there. been to bars. that’s what I was doing for the past month. But out of maybe 25 hours of doing that, socializing the whole time, saw maybe 5 girls I liked, and 4 were on the same day in a one hour time frame. The malls have a much higher number of girls I like, even though its still a small number. At the bars there is just not enough of them practice — I can do socializing,… Read more »
scray
7 years ago
@theMan For many such young guys – that’l probably fix his head enough he can get on with things (he might need a few visits though). This rights of passage for men thing – if most of that is being eliminated, and then women hold the access to the remaining one – the safety valve for that, by way of the prostitute, might be a necessity for some. lol we are saying the same thing, you’re just focusing on a part in male development that most people aren’t at yet…. you’re like ‘yeah if a young guy has trouble getting… Read more »
scray
7 years ago
@blax
You’ve read enough here about ” game ” that I am surprised that you don’t really get it. It’s Game or be Gamed in essence.
right there.
there is a Game out there.
you can either get tossed around and not know wtf is going on.
or you can become a Player.
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The Man
7 years ago
Scray: I said: “Like this movie – the 40-year-old virgin, Steve Carrell – what a great guy – was great in that role. But why does that character have to be fashioned as a “what a loser, what a non-man” You said: “i don’t care why. i’m not here to ponder why. the fact is that in this society here and now, that’s what he’s seen as.” OK I agree with you on that being the current culture. But this “what a loser, what a non-man” meme is fucked up though and should be driven out of culture. Like –… Read more »
It wasn’t just ‘Nam. Thinking differently was in the air. All kinds of strange religions. Drugs. Pot. Psychedelics.
But things turn. Each generation wants “different”. After unrest, and change all the time stability is wanted. And the cycles repeat. We may be in for a new cycle.
scray June 28th, 2016 at 4:01 pm The reports on Jesus were written 50 to 100 years after his departure. I don’t trust any of the specifics. What I do trust is the overall trends. 1. Old Books should not define how we live 2. Governments are not your friend 3. Religion is best done as a solitary adventure. Government is of no help. Worse. It is an adversary. State Religions are for the benefit of the State. For the most part very few “Christians” live by those precepts. Why? Human nature. The reversion to the mean. The masses WANT… Read more »
@The Man “Do you agree then that focusing on “game” (as in pua game) in order to have mastery with women is the wrong ordering of priorities, wrt over all success for a man’s life (including the best possible mastery with women), because a man’s priority should be to develop better mastery and control over himself first and foremost, which is the endeavor that will ultimately bring better results all round (including the best possible mastery with women, if that is his desire)?” Look dude, I already broke this shit down in my reply that you ignored. You’re either purposely… Read more »
Junior
7 years ago
Giving peak-SMV girls a glimpse of The Wall – the “Not A Princess” experience. Note the realization of how heavily their value is dependent on their looks. I wonder how many of these career grrrrls got ‘woke’ out of their professional ambitions & into the idea of capitalizing on their SMV to start a family ASAP… or am I giving their intellects too much credit lol?
Emily June 28th, 2016 at 2:23 pm I know you are “gone” but I can’t help myself. Well maybe I don’t want to. This time. The LTR is happiest when she is my willing doormat. She fights against it because, “feminism”. But none the less it is what she likes. She broke out in tears during our last Congress because I was “mistreating” her. Well OK. why didn’t she get up and walk away? Because I did the worst thing I could do to her. Proved she liked it. A lot. And thus the tears. I was destroying her self… Read more »
@Johnycomelately “Seems like caterwauling by epiphany stagers not getting their beta bucks from men eschewing buying homes for a more minimalist and experience based lifestyle.” Well if you don’t buy a house, what is she supposed to move into so she can quit living in her parents house?? lol Google the author of that article and you’re in for a world of lols. She’s exactly what you’d expect. Post-wall lonely single woman self-important hipster douchebag. She has a blog documenting her experiences being cheap as fuck too (that’s literally the theme of the blog…but MEN being cheap? NOPE! Shame time!).… Read more »
Junior
7 years ago
@YaReally Profound how that plays out irl. A close bud married a girl from a latin country renowned for it’s millions living in poverty. The girl doesn’t come from affluence but yet somehow didn’t have the monetary sense to avoid coming to the relationship with at least two (possibly three) maxed out credit cards, which he cleared for her on the assumption that she’d pay him back. She’s now a Phd candidate lol & refuses to cook… while he works full time to return home & prepare dinner 7 nights a week. 7 FUCKING NIGHTS A WEEK lol. While she… Read more »
Your personal motivations remain a mystery to me. I’m still trying to understand why you’ve lied about so much, so often, in a completely anonymous forum where no one really cares and candor would probably get you further if discussion is the point.
But since you asked… it’s pretty clear you’re stalking Rollo. So there’s one. How many times has he kicked you out of here now?
I’m still trying to understand why you’ve lied about so much, so often, in a completely anonymous forum where no one really cares and candor would probably get you further if discussion is the point.
She’s a young woman and needs the practice. As you’ve said before, she’s terrible at it. hah
YaReally: I said (to Scray): “Do you agree then that focusing on “game” (as in pua game) in order to have mastery with women is the wrong ordering of priorities, wrt over all success for a man’s life (including the best possible mastery with women), because a man’s priority should be to develop better mastery and control over himself first and foremost, which is the endeavor that will ultimately bring better results all round (including the best possible mastery with women, if that is his desire)?” You said: “Look dude, I already broke this shit down in my reply that… Read more »
redlight
7 years ago
@man
“I’m just calling it the way I sees it man. Pretty sure that don’t make me a retard or a troll or whatever.”
What makes you a retarded troll is your inability to see it any way but yours combined with your endless regurgitation
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Andy
7 years ago
“as well there could be plenty or reasons for a guy choosing not to get with women at a particular juncture – like me for example for the last two years – cause every time I go start going the way, by way of social circle game (or just “life” or whatever you want to call it), I start sensing all the fucking drama that I will end up putting on myself.” @theman Sounds like ego to me. Drama isn’t something you have to deal with. You have all the answers right here. If you’re afraid of social circle drama… Read more »
The Man
7 years ago
redlight
“What makes you a retarded troll is your inability to see it any way but yours combined with your endless regurgitation”
Are you sure your criticism makes any sense? Tell me your perspective in terms of the differences, as compared to the perspective that I have just outlined.
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john q shaft
7 years ago
@Rollo long time reader, new commenter. unrelated to this post, well i suppose it’s all related. what do you make of messaging of that insipid taylor swift song that is ubiquitous at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ
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The Man
7 years ago
Andy – by “drama” I mean having to deal with another person’s motivations, focus, desires and the like. I say “drama” instead of just “time”, because though dealing with this dynamic entails the consumption of one’s time, it also entails the consumption of one’s cognitive/emotional resources, by way of having to actually consider someone else’s motivations, focus, and desires that are not all going to magically align with yours. I don’t actually mind dealing with this in a more limited way, by way of a simple exchange of perspectives, like regular friendships, with well mapped out boundaries at to just… Read more »
redlight
7 years ago
@yareally
“Google the author of that article and you’re in for a world of lols. She’s exactly what you’d expect. Post-wall lonely single woman self-important hipster douchebag. ”
She’s married
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SJF
7 years ago
Rollo retweeted a reference to a list of 25 books every man should read (to which the original tweet mentioned that TRM and 48 Laws should be added.) I mention this because it is a maxim that red pill practice and game has a lot to to with self improvement and improving mindset (inner game). There are some good books on that list and with just browsing the reviews and google searching you can become more self aware about your own personal goals and happiness. http://www.wellbuiltstyle.com/25-books-every-man-should-read/ @Blaximus and YaReally: In the one particular book 30 Lessons For Living, author and… Read more »
SJF
7 years ago
Speaking of mindset, one of the problems I would criticize the back and forth comments from @The Man is that I’m seeing a fixed mindset in The Man and it is not red pill or game centered. Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol Dweck Dweck: “In a fixed mindset students believe their basic abilities, their intelligence, their talents, are just fixed traits. They have a certain amount and that’s that, and then their goal becomes to look smart all the time and never look dumb. “In a growth mindset students understand that their talents and abilities can be… Read more »
Andy
7 years ago
“I mean having to deal with another person’s motivations, focus, desires and the like. I say “drama” instead of just “time”, because though dealing with this dynamic entails the consumption of one’s time, it also entails the consumption of one’s cognitive/emotional resources, by way of having to actually consider someone else’s motivations, focus, and desires that are not all going to magically align with yours.”
@theman
That doesn’t sound red pill to me at all. That sounds like pedestalization and social conditioning. You can have whatever kind of relationship you want with women.
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The Man
7 years ago
Yes Andy – of course I grasp what you are saying (as so much of the discourse here over the last 8 or 9 months has been about how I am wrong about certain convictions I have). So what I left unsaid wrt my above comment to you is that the reason I see that redpill does not actually offer any escape from this dynamic of having one’s cognitive/emotional resources to be called upon, in either a less limited way of a more limited way, within sexual partnering, depending upon the depth of the relationship, – is partly a personal… Read more »
kfg
7 years ago
“Coming to the conclusion that redpill does not actually offer any escape from this dynamic . . .”
Red Pill has never offered escape from anything other than illusion.
” . . . I’m not willing . . .”
We know. But hey, at least your eyes won’t hurt.
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The Man
7 years ago
SJF – on the Dwerk fixed/growth mindset dynamic – as applied to your perception of my psychology: To my way of thinking it is growth mindset from birth to death, however the beauty of it is that each of us, though very similar in basic human “design”, are just different enough wrt strengths and weaknesses, some of which may be innate and some of which may be shaped by circumstance, and furthermore, we are also just different enough wrt the pragmatic conditions we find ourselves in by way of the circumstances of our surroundings, ……. and the fact that we… Read more »
SJF
7 years ago
@john q shaft June 29th, 2016 at 8:28 am The psychology behind the Taylor Swift lyrics for Wild At Heart are that women evolutionarily want the alpha genes. And they know that after they get the alpha male, the next step in manipulation of that male is to tame him and betatize him. And when they accomplish betatization, they are left with: boredom. Taylor Swift knows this instinctively, so she puts her Alpha out of reach and unobtainable. That way she doesn’t lose her lust for him. Compare to the female artist’s song song lyrics “In Sleep” by Lissie. “I… Read more »
Culum Struan
7 years ago
@SJF – that Carol Dweck book is on my Kindle, but it’s way down my reading list.
Recommendations if you like that genre/subject area (like The Talent Code and Outliers, and so on): Bounce by Matthew Syed (who was an international table tennis player) and more recently The Gold Mine Effect by Rasmus Ankersen – all in the same sort of area about practice, performance, training, natural talent and how it intersects, how to develop skill etc.
Yes Liz, I lied. Sue me.
My bf mentioned that we would get married after he graduated, so I had the idea that we would be married by the end of this Summer. In that way, we were pretty much engaged, in a way. But it was wishful thinking, I admit.
Redlight, so that is you? Is that really true?
@Emily: ” . . .I lied.”
We know.
In fact, like the previous, we told you before you told us.
@emily
feel free to ask me any questions
Girls lie? Say it ain’t so!
This isn’t the first time you’ve been caught in a lie by a long shot.
But it’s the most gobsmacking example to date.
At this point I’m wondering if there actually is or was a boyfriend or if he’s just some guy you’ve been stalking and making up stories about.
No way to tell. It has been interesting though.
Wow.
……….http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/895/832/80b.jpg
Well, if just thinking of opening can help, perhaps I should try imagining opening and it being successful. Before going into venue, take a few minutes to imagine opening, sexualizing/adding emotional spikes, and it working. Also, think of the times I was successful in the past. And when I was in state. Keep focusing on beatboxing and humming early on, since I do that when I am in state. Do the meditation that tyler talks about — just clearing thoughts for 30 min. Early on in day. Try to do more exercise before — but is tricky with health issues.… Read more »
Lololol, why the hell would I stalk ANY guy? I’ve been with him for a long time now, but you can believe what you like.
Anyway, shut the fuck up Liz. Go back to being a doormat for your husband, you are going over your allowed computer time.
@scray
if you’re the prize, why are you approaching?
Good question. I approach in order to demonstrate that I am the prize. Rejections allow me to demonstrate that I am the prize. I am not a passive prize, but an active prize. (I do get approached sometimes…usually once a night by a HB6+.)
Gamer’s Sexual Economic Theory (tl;dr version)
Pussy is a fungible commodity to alphas. You can’t give away beta dick. Alpha dick is prized more than pussy when alphas DHV.
@theMan insinuates that your sentiment is that your manliness in contingent on success with women. Wrong order based on what your opinion? Maslow didn’t think so….learning how to meet your sexual needs is way before you self-actualize as a man. according to Maslow you can’t even have any real self-esteem until you can fuck some women. you are NOT a real MAN until you can fuck WOMEN. sorry. thought experiment. do you think a male virgin is more or less of a man? the natural response is LESS. many would say he is not even a MAN yet. we can… Read more »
Funny thing, I forgot this til now…was holding the door for people for maybe 20 secs…some girls didn’t thank me and got scolded by other girls and one girl touched me on the arm and thanked me as she passed, lol Funny how frame shows thru even when you act with chivalry and girls see it and respond. I was dressed in dark gray jeans, black cap, a black and white plaid shirt with snaps, and black boots. Maybe looked a little scary and my actions were a contrast. The girls’ appreciative responses were very cool. Wish I’d hugged them… Read more »
Goodbye Liar. Have fun with your Beta orbiters on TBP and all the other “christian” blog forums you snake your lies into.
Tell the BF I’m proud of him for figuring your lies out.
@scray
do you think a male virgin is more or less of a man?
Irrelevant. I think that Christ was an amazing man. Heroic stature and a virgin. Maslow has a right to his opinion, but it’s all sociological guesswork.
@scray, @wildman https://therationalmale.com/2013/06/26/you-need-sex/ Life Experience If I said I felt pity for men like the blogger I mentioned earlier, who through their own conviction or bad circumstance, have never had sex in their lives, I don’t think I’d be accurate in expressing myself. I feel a profound sadness for them; a sadness similar to when you meet someone who’s lost a limb or has had to live with a physical or mental disability. For guys who want to tell you that you don’t need sex to live a fulfilling life I’m sure this sounds like conceit. There are plenty of… Read more »
Anyone wanna bet that Emily has never scolded other girls for not thanking a man for holding a door for them. I’d bet money that Liz has done so. Liz speaks up about false rape accusations in the military. Scolding girls for unthankfulness wouldn’t be far removed from that.
@scray @Rollo @TheMan
If men WANT sex and are virgins, then they are lesser men. Immature at least.
@thasdegamer
Irrelevant. I think that Christ was an amazing man. Heroic stature and a virgin. Maslow has a right to his opinion, but it’s all sociological guesswork.
weird to reference the story of jesus as fact and dismiss Maslow as ‘guesswork.’
our belief systems are too far apart on this one i think. to me, jesus and a lot of that is just mythmaking — if there was an actual man.
So little Emmy tries to play hide the vagina to coerce a marraige proposal from her not so beta guy… And when that fails she tries let’s you and he fight with their mutual friend… And when that fails he dumps her…
And the Hamster keeps on spinnin on.
LOL
Scray
If a virgin man has sex with a prostitute is he a man or not?
@scray
If the story of Jesus is myth, then so is experimental physics, because they rely on the same epistemology–the testimony of eyewitnesses.
@scray
Check out Coady, C. A. J., 1992, Testimony: A Philosophical Study.
@theasdgamer
eh, we just disagree!
@sentient
he’s more of a man than a virgin and less of a man that a man who didn’t have to pay for a prostitute.
@scray The key to reasonable belief is whether there is rigorous examination of eyewitnesses. We have that in experimental physics where the physics journals report the observations of eyewitnesses and those reports undergo rigorous scrutiny. Christianity likewise had rigorous examination of eyewitnesses. Jewish culture required rigorous scrutiny of eyewitnesses as well and the early church was almost entirely Jewish for the first 15 years at least. Hence, the early church would have put its eyewitnesses (the apostles) to some rigorous questioning, which we find mentioned in Acts 4 & 8. There are also the eight quotations of the Law’s requirements… Read more »
@scray
You ventured into an area in which I have done spergy investigation, lol.
fascinating.
So, if a man calls himself an astronaut, yet never left earth’s atmosphere, is he really an astronaut? Or is he in effect, an astroNaught?
@ Sentient
” If a virgin man has sex with a prostitute is he a man or not?”
Depends. If the prostitute’s name is Mark, then no, it doesn’t count.
@theasdgamer
The key to reasonable belief is whether there is rigorous examination of eyewitnesses.
that’s a pretty huge opinion to assert….and it’s one I don’t share. both on the key to ‘reasonable belief’ and how rigorous the eyewitnesses wrt ‘Christ’ were examined
Christianity likewise had rigorous examination of eyewitnesses.
lol yeah we have different meanings of the word ‘rigorous.’
You ventured into an area in which I have done spergy investigation, lol.
imagine a world where two people could reasonably investigate something and disagree. rejoice! that’s the world we live in.
I often scroll past emily’s crap but today this linkshe put up caught my eye. For those who did not see it, read it. It is a splendid link to put up, one that even rollo himself would post.
OK Scray – just to set the record straight for where I am coming from personally, I have never had a problem getting with a woman if I decide that is important. And I have had 1,000’s and 1,000’s of fucks in my life as per the usual. I also have never had a problem otherwise getting my sexual needs met (and I need release very very frequently – don’t know why exactly – always been like that – and the way I see it it seems to be a hallmark of the overall state of my health – so… Read more »
@theMan I have never had a problem getting with a woman if I decide that is important. And I have had 1,000’s and 1,000’s of fucks in my life as per the usual okay, then what exactly are you disagreeing with me about. you literally are coming from a place of ‘well now that I can get legions of pussy, I can define myself as a man in other ways’ okay….and how is this different from what i said? therefore if you are sticking to your guns wrt defining manliness as contingent on success with women – no – believing… Read more »
” . . . one that even rollo himself would post.”
It is one of a type, no different from each other than snowflakes, which is to say that except for irrelevant differences they are all the same.
Rollo has already discussed one of type.
Rollo
I’d love to see your take on this recent piece and it’s relation to the FI.
Bros Before Homes 27/06/2016
https://newrepublic.com/article/134651/bros-homes
Seems like caterwauling by epiphany stagers not getting their beta bucks from men eschewing buying homes for a more minimalist and experience based lifestyle. Apparently not owning things is sexist.
YaReally, that makes you king of the sexists.
@Johnycomelately on June 28, 2016 at 4:52 pm
Rollo is doing that after the next one
@ The Man You wrote something that had me thinking for quite a while – ” Maybe the people haven’t changed so much as the “authority” as changed. it is only normal for healthy people to abhor the coercion of “authorities”. But back in the 1960’s, the authorities were much more on right on the political spectrum, than today. The rallying of the people for their rightful human liberties (expression of self agency as our rightful liberty), in the face of the dominance, coercion, and contempt of the “authorities” was so successful that the the ideological mindset of the authorities… Read more »
“No center pull in sight.”
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
@ kfg
Precisely. I dig that.
went out today. mall in bad city.
but already getting burned out of the venues. don’t really want to go to these places besides to practice.
last two days there have been zero girls i liked.
also been stopping by some department stores, but same issue. zero girls i like.
@ hank
My man!!!!!
Sounds like it’s time for some Night Fever. Time to locate some bars or clubs and see what’s what there.
Always remember, there are billions of chicks. Billions I say!!! it is only a matter of time until you locate them…or some of them, not billions at once because they’re kinda spread out.
Don’t get burned out man, just breath deep and relax a little bit.
Ease your mind bro.
Scray: “you literally are coming from a place of ‘well now that I can get legions of pussy, I can define myself as a man in other ways’” Well, this abundance mentality is a funny thing – you know the dick tends to say to the brain – hey bro – what have you done for my lately. Ah – but the brain says to the cock – hey dickhead – who is in control here? See what I am saying. Look – it is damaging to OCD-prone young guys to tell them they are worthless if they don’t get… Read more »
“The Princess Experience”
Thought it was going to be a guest post by a red pill woman.
😉
@Blaximus
Midway through the 60’s, there arose a significant pushback against recognized authority, instigated by the youngsters, teens and twenty-somethings.
More like instigated by Soviet agents via the media, campus organizations, labor, and useful young idiots (of which I was one).
@Hank
last two days there have been zero girls i liked.
also been stopping by some department stores, but same issue. zero girls i like.
So, practice on girls you don’t like, chat up men, create a party on the fly.
Isn’t Emily just so sweet? lol
Guys that have not gotten pussy are in no way worthless. Not by any stretch of the imagination. That’s not what scray was saying at all. I good at readin’ and all. lol…. Part of being a man is having sex with a woman. Call it a Rite of Passage if it must be labeled for argument’s sake. The desire is biologically hardwired. Having sex is not Nirvana, but it pretty fucking close initially. Off the top of my head, I can’t think of many things that one could consider a benchmark for manhood other than sex with a woman.… Read more »
@Hank
I found my college gf through a male friend. Make lots of male friends and they may introduce you to a girl you like.
@ asd
” More like instigated by Soviet agents via the media, campus organizations, labor, and useful young idiots (of which I was one).”
Not in all cases man. Not at all. That’s a widely accepted Romanticized version. I believe that the whole ” soviet influence ” thing was more of an exception as opposed to being a hard and fast rule.
Well, at least in my life.
@scray
Jews are known for being the least capable lawyers, so I’m with you on laughing at their ability to question witnesses. I mean, you know, Jews are all so stupid when it comes to verbal stuff.
@Blax
All you had to do was examine who funded various events. It was published in newspapers. Sure, not everything was done by Soviets, but they typically started the ball rolling. The elites were in the pockets of the Soviets–media, Hollywood, labor, academia.
Hey Blax – if a young guy is having problems getting the pussy ….. maybe he should just go see a pro that specializes in that sort of thing. For many such young guys – that’l probably fix his head enough he can get on with things (he might need a few visits though). This rights of passage for men thing – if most of that is being eliminated, and then women hold the access to the remaining one – the safety valve for that, by way of the prostitute, might be a necessity for some. But after fixing his… Read more »
@Blax
Remember how the John Birch Society was vilified for pointing out the dangers of the Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, etc.? The elites even laughed at the Birchers, claiming that those organizations didn’t even exist. The Birchers’ claims are no longer considered fringe, even though the Birchers’ rep has suffered from all the propaganda.
The Trilateral Commission and Bilderbergers are run by the elites. No one doubts that anymore and only the naïve think that those organizations don’t wield tremendous influence. The Birchers may have magnified their influence, but not their danger.
@ The Man Lol. I don’t think a guy always has to fix his head to get/have sex. He needs understanding and reasoning to go along with his natural drive. Idk, I don’t get that scray is saying sex defines a guy’s manliness. I take what he’s saying as, sex is one defining factor. An important defining factor. scray is talking about a lack of success insofar as a lack of trying or gaining understanding. That’s where I thought the discussion began, the talk about some men not needing or wanting sex, and the debunking of that train of thought.… Read more »
I couldn’t remember the name of the Council on Foreign Relations that was also considered dangerous by the JBS. The Southern Poverty Law Center is another organization that I consider very dangerous.
@ asd ” Remember how the John Birch Society was vilified for pointing out the dangers of the Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, etc.? The elites even laughed at the Birchers, claiming that those organizations didn’t even exist. The Birchers’ claims are no longer considered fringe, even though the Birchers’ rep has suffered from all the propaganda. The Trilateral Commission and Bilderbergers are run by the elites. No one doubts that anymore and only the naïve think that those organizations don’t wield tremendous influence. The Birchers may have magnified their influence, but not their danger.” Man, we could get into a very… Read more »
” The Southern Poverty Law Center is another organization that I consider very dangerous.”
Lol. see? As a son of the south, I have the opposite opinion.
Blax – yeah the war on drugs and the mass incarceration strategy are two of the dumbest things I have seen in my life time. Shit like this fuels people’s wonderings about behind the scenes puppet-masters and such …. and dark dark conspiracy theories about the future. But it is probably just dumb humans being dumb. Hey – like I was alluding to in my comment way above – maybe the solution is ……… getting better at recognizing when rightful human liberties like the expression of self agency, are being trampled by way of the dominance, coercion, and contempt of… Read more »
@Blax
The SPLC started off Ok, but it was commandeered and sent in some dangerous directions.
@ The Man I too believe that focusing on mastering game is very important for men, because ” game ” is much more far reaching in managing one’s life, than ” just ” for having sex with women. Re: People respecting other’s rights or whatever, It is an awful life strategy for a man to depend upon the kindness or understanding of others in any way. If a man gets respect and kindness in some automatic fashion, that’s just a plus. Respect is either earned or taken. You either speak up for your rights, or watch them vanish. Pretty much,… Read more »
Concerning the NewRublic article linked above, it seems like the minimalist man is the new incarnation of a counterweight to the FI. Minimalism is the perfect exposition of the mental point of origin, my life, my money for me and my journey sans societal expectations, no epiphany beta bucks nesting accoutrements. Experience over things. The modern version of the vilified Victorian dandy. It stands against the modern tide of ‘things’ representing identity and increases signalling noise for beta bucks status identification. The princess gets to play house while Prince Charming is out having the time of his life. An an… Read more »
Blax – yes correct – legislating something like common human decency is very tricky. But my point about ….. let’s call it the standard golden-rule suite of personal convictions …… is that such personal convictions provide one with personal power to better recognize when authority is being abused …. and earlier recognition by the populace would be very helpful …… us living in democracies and all ……. and the human tendency to otherwise kneejerk to memetics (as expounded by Bernays for instance). We each have to be more savvy so we collectively can be more savvy wrt earlier recognition of… Read more »
@blax @asd Sounds like it’s time for some Night Fever. Time to locate some bars or clubs and see what’s what there. been to bars. that’s what I was doing for the past month. But out of maybe 25 hours of doing that, socializing the whole time, saw maybe 5 girls I liked, and 4 were on the same day in a one hour time frame. The malls have a much higher number of girls I like, even though its still a small number. At the bars there is just not enough of them practice — I can do socializing,… Read more »
@theMan For many such young guys – that’l probably fix his head enough he can get on with things (he might need a few visits though). This rights of passage for men thing – if most of that is being eliminated, and then women hold the access to the remaining one – the safety valve for that, by way of the prostitute, might be a necessity for some. lol we are saying the same thing, you’re just focusing on a part in male development that most people aren’t at yet…. you’re like ‘yeah if a young guy has trouble getting… Read more »
@blax
You’ve read enough here about ” game ” that I am surprised that you don’t really get it. It’s Game or be Gamed in essence.
right there.
there is a Game out there.
you can either get tossed around and not know wtf is going on.
or you can become a Player.
Scray: I said: “Like this movie – the 40-year-old virgin, Steve Carrell – what a great guy – was great in that role. But why does that character have to be fashioned as a “what a loser, what a non-man” You said: “i don’t care why. i’m not here to ponder why. the fact is that in this society here and now, that’s what he’s seen as.” OK I agree with you on that being the current culture. But this “what a loser, what a non-man” meme is fucked up though and should be driven out of culture. Like –… Read more »
Not sure how to respond directly to comments on this wordy ass blog but to ya really Most men do not deserve to live, much less a Princess. Get real.
Blaximus
June 26th, 2016 at 7:10 pm
It wasn’t just ‘Nam. Thinking differently was in the air. All kinds of strange religions. Drugs. Pot. Psychedelics.
But things turn. Each generation wants “different”. After unrest, and change all the time stability is wanted. And the cycles repeat. We may be in for a new cycle.
Risking Rewards.
The Man
June 28th, 2016 at 7:06 pm
The war on drugs? Dark conspiracy theories? I have a good one for you. I wrote it.
https://hotgas.net/2016/04/trillion-dollar-drug-war-scam/
All open source and reputable links. It isn’t hidden. If you care to look.
scray June 28th, 2016 at 4:01 pm The reports on Jesus were written 50 to 100 years after his departure. I don’t trust any of the specifics. What I do trust is the overall trends. 1. Old Books should not define how we live 2. Governments are not your friend 3. Religion is best done as a solitary adventure. Government is of no help. Worse. It is an adversary. State Religions are for the benefit of the State. For the most part very few “Christians” live by those precepts. Why? Human nature. The reversion to the mean. The masses WANT… Read more »
@The Man “Do you agree then that focusing on “game” (as in pua game) in order to have mastery with women is the wrong ordering of priorities, wrt over all success for a man’s life (including the best possible mastery with women), because a man’s priority should be to develop better mastery and control over himself first and foremost, which is the endeavor that will ultimately bring better results all round (including the best possible mastery with women, if that is his desire)?” Look dude, I already broke this shit down in my reply that you ignored. You’re either purposely… Read more »
Giving peak-SMV girls a glimpse of The Wall – the “Not A Princess” experience. Note the realization of how heavily their value is dependent on their looks. I wonder how many of these career grrrrls got ‘woke’ out of their professional ambitions & into the idea of capitalizing on their SMV to start a family ASAP… or am I giving their intellects too much credit lol?
Emily June 28th, 2016 at 2:23 pm I know you are “gone” but I can’t help myself. Well maybe I don’t want to. This time. The LTR is happiest when she is my willing doormat. She fights against it because, “feminism”. But none the less it is what she likes. She broke out in tears during our last Congress because I was “mistreating” her. Well OK. why didn’t she get up and walk away? Because I did the worst thing I could do to her. Proved she liked it. A lot. And thus the tears. I was destroying her self… Read more »
theasdgamer
June 28th, 2016 at 12:30 pm
What is this “Broken Tail Light” game?
@Johnycomelately “Seems like caterwauling by epiphany stagers not getting their beta bucks from men eschewing buying homes for a more minimalist and experience based lifestyle.” Well if you don’t buy a house, what is she supposed to move into so she can quit living in her parents house?? lol Google the author of that article and you’re in for a world of lols. She’s exactly what you’d expect. Post-wall lonely single woman self-important hipster douchebag. She has a blog documenting her experiences being cheap as fuck too (that’s literally the theme of the blog…but MEN being cheap? NOPE! Shame time!).… Read more »
@YaReally Profound how that plays out irl. A close bud married a girl from a latin country renowned for it’s millions living in poverty. The girl doesn’t come from affluence but yet somehow didn’t have the monetary sense to avoid coming to the relationship with at least two (possibly three) maxed out credit cards, which he cleared for her on the assumption that she’d pay him back. She’s now a Phd candidate lol & refuses to cook… while he works full time to return home & prepare dinner 7 nights a week. 7 FUCKING NIGHTS A WEEK lol. While she… Read more »
@Hank
What kinds of things interest you?
“Lololol, why the hell would I stalk ANY guy?”
Your personal motivations remain a mystery to me. I’m still trying to understand why you’ve lied about so much, so often, in a completely anonymous forum where no one really cares and candor would probably get you further if discussion is the point.
But since you asked… it’s pretty clear you’re stalking Rollo. So there’s one. How many times has he kicked you out of here now?
@Simon
Search my blog: “taillight”
@Liz
I’m still trying to understand why you’ve lied about so much, so often, in a completely anonymous forum where no one really cares and candor would probably get you further if discussion is the point.
She’s a young woman and needs the practice. As you’ve said before, she’s terrible at it. hah
theasdgamer
June 29th, 2016 at 5:25 am
Thanks for taillight.
Liz
June 29th, 2016 at 5:10 am
She is probably not completely anonymous to Rollo. Some where along the way she probably gave a valid e-mail address to register.
I’d say your conclusion is highly probable.
LOL.
“She’s a young woman and needs the practice. As you’ve said before, she’s terrible at it. hah”
As an Italian I almost feel compelled to offer some pointers.
@Liz
I would carefully scrutinize any advice from an Italian.
“Bring those supplies on over to us, Axis friends. We have North Africa covered and the Mediterranean is secured! No worries….”
She was right about my overtime on the internetz, though.
-Liz out
Loved your great tit pics, btw.
YaReally: I said (to Scray): “Do you agree then that focusing on “game” (as in pua game) in order to have mastery with women is the wrong ordering of priorities, wrt over all success for a man’s life (including the best possible mastery with women), because a man’s priority should be to develop better mastery and control over himself first and foremost, which is the endeavor that will ultimately bring better results all round (including the best possible mastery with women, if that is his desire)?” You said: “Look dude, I already broke this shit down in my reply that… Read more »
@man
“I’m just calling it the way I sees it man. Pretty sure that don’t make me a retard or a troll or whatever.”
What makes you a retarded troll is your inability to see it any way but yours combined with your endless regurgitation
“as well there could be plenty or reasons for a guy choosing not to get with women at a particular juncture – like me for example for the last two years – cause every time I go start going the way, by way of social circle game (or just “life” or whatever you want to call it), I start sensing all the fucking drama that I will end up putting on myself.” @theman Sounds like ego to me. Drama isn’t something you have to deal with. You have all the answers right here. If you’re afraid of social circle drama… Read more »
redlight
“What makes you a retarded troll is your inability to see it any way but yours combined with your endless regurgitation”
Are you sure your criticism makes any sense? Tell me your perspective in terms of the differences, as compared to the perspective that I have just outlined.
@Rollo long time reader, new commenter. unrelated to this post, well i suppose it’s all related. what do you make of messaging of that insipid taylor swift song that is ubiquitous at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ
Andy – by “drama” I mean having to deal with another person’s motivations, focus, desires and the like. I say “drama” instead of just “time”, because though dealing with this dynamic entails the consumption of one’s time, it also entails the consumption of one’s cognitive/emotional resources, by way of having to actually consider someone else’s motivations, focus, and desires that are not all going to magically align with yours. I don’t actually mind dealing with this in a more limited way, by way of a simple exchange of perspectives, like regular friendships, with well mapped out boundaries at to just… Read more »
@yareally
“Google the author of that article and you’re in for a world of lols. She’s exactly what you’d expect. Post-wall lonely single woman self-important hipster douchebag. ”
She’s married
Rollo retweeted a reference to a list of 25 books every man should read (to which the original tweet mentioned that TRM and 48 Laws should be added.) I mention this because it is a maxim that red pill practice and game has a lot to to with self improvement and improving mindset (inner game). There are some good books on that list and with just browsing the reviews and google searching you can become more self aware about your own personal goals and happiness. http://www.wellbuiltstyle.com/25-books-every-man-should-read/ @Blaximus and YaReally: In the one particular book 30 Lessons For Living, author and… Read more »
Speaking of mindset, one of the problems I would criticize the back and forth comments from @The Man is that I’m seeing a fixed mindset in The Man and it is not red pill or game centered. Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol Dweck Dweck: “In a fixed mindset students believe their basic abilities, their intelligence, their talents, are just fixed traits. They have a certain amount and that’s that, and then their goal becomes to look smart all the time and never look dumb. “In a growth mindset students understand that their talents and abilities can be… Read more »
“I mean having to deal with another person’s motivations, focus, desires and the like. I say “drama” instead of just “time”, because though dealing with this dynamic entails the consumption of one’s time, it also entails the consumption of one’s cognitive/emotional resources, by way of having to actually consider someone else’s motivations, focus, and desires that are not all going to magically align with yours.”
@theman
That doesn’t sound red pill to me at all. That sounds like pedestalization and social conditioning. You can have whatever kind of relationship you want with women.
Yes Andy – of course I grasp what you are saying (as so much of the discourse here over the last 8 or 9 months has been about how I am wrong about certain convictions I have). So what I left unsaid wrt my above comment to you is that the reason I see that redpill does not actually offer any escape from this dynamic of having one’s cognitive/emotional resources to be called upon, in either a less limited way of a more limited way, within sexual partnering, depending upon the depth of the relationship, – is partly a personal… Read more »
“Coming to the conclusion that redpill does not actually offer any escape from this dynamic . . .”
Red Pill has never offered escape from anything other than illusion.
” . . . I’m not willing . . .”
We know. But hey, at least your eyes won’t hurt.
SJF – on the Dwerk fixed/growth mindset dynamic – as applied to your perception of my psychology: To my way of thinking it is growth mindset from birth to death, however the beauty of it is that each of us, though very similar in basic human “design”, are just different enough wrt strengths and weaknesses, some of which may be innate and some of which may be shaped by circumstance, and furthermore, we are also just different enough wrt the pragmatic conditions we find ourselves in by way of the circumstances of our surroundings, ……. and the fact that we… Read more »
@john q shaft June 29th, 2016 at 8:28 am The psychology behind the Taylor Swift lyrics for Wild At Heart are that women evolutionarily want the alpha genes. And they know that after they get the alpha male, the next step in manipulation of that male is to tame him and betatize him. And when they accomplish betatization, they are left with: boredom. Taylor Swift knows this instinctively, so she puts her Alpha out of reach and unobtainable. That way she doesn’t lose her lust for him. Compare to the female artist’s song song lyrics “In Sleep” by Lissie. “I… Read more »
@SJF – that Carol Dweck book is on my Kindle, but it’s way down my reading list.
Recommendations if you like that genre/subject area (like The Talent Code and Outliers, and so on): Bounce by Matthew Syed (who was an international table tennis player) and more recently The Gold Mine Effect by Rasmus Ankersen – all in the same sort of area about practice, performance, training, natural talent and how it intersects, how to develop skill etc.