The Princess Experience

 

 

‘Fallen Princesses’ –  photographer Dina Goldstein

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redlight
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redlight

it’s more fun what rule34 does with Disney, such as

http://i.imgur.com/CdBE7gM.jpg

racerxx
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racerxx

Those pics are hilarious. And the fatmom in the vid very fitting.

Not Born This Morning
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Very original

D. Horrenbrand
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thats utterly depressing. that YT movie.

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Not Born This Morning
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“Honey you can be a princess and grow up to be just like me!” “Queen Of Whales!” “Disney will show you how to start, and then you can graduate to teeny sitcoms, and then soaps and Dr. Oz and Oprah, and Dr. Philoshit and The E channel and the food channel and…. …..and Disney and Nabisco and Mickey D’s and General Mills and…. will all get rich off your imbecilic idiocy as you blubber inflate your fat ass into horrendous hideous oblivion just like me your proud mommy!!!!!!

YaReally
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How much would looks/money matter if boys were given that experience every day from birth so they viewed themselves as having as much value as a hot girl has, instead of being told they don’t deserve a princess and teaching them to compare themselves to other men and put women on a pedestal and view other men as having higher value than themselves? 😉

kfg
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kfg

If a woman ever tells you to treat her like a princess – Do It!

Sorcerygod
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I’m a sexist, but I just added a short story to my website where a “princess” actually uses ingenuity to save her own useless ass …. Check it out …. the June 22 top posting. Scroll down my website header page if you can’t see it. Then click. http://www.sorcerygod.wordpress.com I think the best thing about being a princess is that it comes pre-assembled and pre-attached with an adoring crowd of white knights and beta orbiters — whose adoring looks and urges to please and assist make any day a pleasure for the young lady about town. Whether it’s a move… Read more »

rugby11
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Yareally
“How much would looks/money matter if boys were given that experience every day from birth so they viewed themselves as having as much value as a hot girl has, instead of being told they don’t deserve a princess and teaching them to compare themselves to other men and put women on a pedestal and view other men as having higher value than themselves?”
That’s wonderfully though provoking.

Not Born This Morning
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“Princess” is code for whore.

rugby11
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rugby11
stuffinbox
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27 years ago I felt so much like a king i named the third princess in native tongue and raised her as one now she is a single mommy raising her princess.Interesting like a man that is robbed of his royalty or just in waiting to inherit.
Much better to go out and get it on your own.
Tough fantasy to break,even tougher to live up to.

stuffinbox
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And yet another moment of silence for those that are still suffering.
No serenity prayer?

benfromtexasBenjamin
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Spoiled rotten

Yollo Comanche
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Yollo Comanche

Hmmm. Wasn’t there another article before this mysteriously went up?

Bachelorocles
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Bachelorocles

The “Unhappy Marriage” shows Princess in a decent middle class home with four children with a decent looking, fit husband.

A healthy, pretty woman standing in a modest home with four children depicts the “tragic fate” of a “fallen princess”?

W.

T.

F?

Fifty years ago such was the model of happiness, domestic bliss, the American Dream. Today it’s degradation on the same level as cancer.

W.T.F?

SJF
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SJF

LoL. The start of the Black Flag book by Shark: Chapter The First: Internal Game THE MATRIX “Why do my eyes hurt?” “You’ve never used them before” The Matrix is omnipresent. It is ubiquitous, it is all-­‐encompassing, it is all-­‐seeing, it is all-­‐ knowing. From billboards to magazines to TV shows to high school clubs to advertisements to movies to father-­‐son conversations to novels to fairy tales to news paper articles to proverbs to jokes; it is literally fucking everywhere. It starts with Disney movies. From a young age all men are exposed to a stream-­‐line of normalization that teaches… Read more »

Opus
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Opus

This is one of the inevitable and bad consequences of having brexited from Monarchy. Only in a Republic, where everyone is a nobody, is everyone, at least the women and the Trannies, a Princess – Princess of Wails.

rotepilleblog
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He is hyperactive and no masculine charisma.

PaulProteus
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PaulProteus

I had to laugh when I saw the shot in the bar. I ran out and took the shot on the bottom because I used to get torqued there back in the day.

Can’t say I recognize her though….

http://i.imgur.com/90uDoMM.png

thomasso75
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@SJF Thanks for the intro to The Black Flag. It made me smile and got me chills at the same time. Might be worth a read.

redlight
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redlight

and the FI keeps crushing it: Eli Hurst is 12 years old. Girls have just started to enter his thinking in a new way, and he’s “vulnerable,” says his father, Darrell Hurst. Still, Eli’s views are sturdily progressive, despite the misogyny seeping into the U.S. presidential campaign and corners of Canadian campuses. “Treat girls with respect,” he says. Darrell recently sat down with Eli to make good on a pledge to talk about consent, a promise he put forward as part of the #20MinutesOfAction4Change campaign. It’s more than a hashtag. Turning a now notorious courtroom quote on its head, the… Read more »

cheupez
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Fallen princesses to imply they were ever standing princesses, or even princesses of any sort in the first place. LOL.

Ergo Slugg
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Ergo Slugg

I was lucky enough to experience the “Prince” experience for twenty years, courtesy of the U.S. Marine Corps. It included spending part of one training day – – coincidentally, my birthday, going through the CS gas chamber “experience,” among many other wonderful (and some awful) memories. Although I’m nearly 60 now, and well past The Wall, those memories and my accomplishments will live with me until the end, and I wouldn’t trade them for anything in the world.

What post-Wall princess can say the same?

redlight
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redlight

#20MinutesOfAction4Change Father: Son, I’m nervous, I’m scared. You are vulnerable. I want to talk to you about what it means to be a man. Son: Can I go play my game? Father: No, listen to me. I know you know to treat girls with respect, but what I have to tell now is about consent. Son: Cool, can I go play my game? Father: No hold on. Now you need her consent. Go that? And this applies to everything. If you want to do something, you need her consent. Okay? Son: Sure. Father: Wait, that’s more. If a woman wants… Read more »

theasdgamer
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I had a “princess” experience myself yesterday when a drunk gay dude hit on me 3 times, lol. Called me “honey” and stuff like that. I ignored him and the normally cold waitress warmed up to me a bit. Will gay men hitting on straight men trigger Preselection in women?

Fifty Seven
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Fifty Seven

Saw this comment somewhere, a while back:

“She told me to treat her like a princess… So I married her off to a total stranger to strengthen our alliance with Prussia.”

newlyaloof
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Avoid Disney:

stuffinbox
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@Asd
Funny stuff!
If she can relate to the guy it may even trigger mate guarding,we used to go to Dennys after the bars closed,the gay fellas would hit on me and the wife would give them dirty looks.She knows I don’t roll that way,it still triggered a defense.

Gunnar von Cowtown
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Gunnar von Cowtown

“A healthy, pretty woman standing in a modest home with four children depicts the “tragic fate” of a “fallen princess”? Fifty years ago such was the model of happiness, domestic bliss, the American Dream. Today it’s degradation on the same level as cancer. W.T.F?”

It’s the exact same feminist tripe the (((Dina Goldsteins))) of the world have been shilling for the past 50+ years.

Credit where it’s due for the “Pocahontas Cat Lady” pic, though. I lolzed pretty hard at that one.

theasdgamer
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@stuff

The gay dude invaded my space briefly and I just ignored him other than a brief look. He was wearing a dress and had long hair, lol. I was slightly amused. I could have engaged him and asked him if he liked receiving golden showers and if he licked dirty assholes, lol.

Messing with him would have been a DHV. Ignoring him without feeling threatened was also a DHV, but less so. Still, he was drunk, so there was risk if I had engaged him.

Mrs. Gamer found my story highly amusing.

kfg
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kfg

“I was lucky enough to experience the “Prince” experience for twenty years, courtesy of the U.S. Marine Corps.” Exactly. From The Black Flag: “Studies concur; men who are competitive are more alpha than their vagina bequeathed brethren. If you’re young, you have time to pick up a sport. If you’re older, your career is the way to go. Become uncannily good at anything you do – approach it with an untapped competitive potential – and your flaccid personality will follow in suit. It is no coincidence that men who stand out in their respective fields generally display Alpha characteristics.” What… Read more »

stuffinbox
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@asd

If you and I were having a beer together and the guy hit in you,yes asking him if a tossed salad tastes like shat would have given us some laughs.
But as it was not a boys night
,being judgmental in front of the babes not so much of a dhv,rather the opposite,live and let live higher dhv,judgmental lower dhv.imo

stuffinbox
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@asd
Mrs Box finds this very amusing also,still doesn’t stop her reactions.

N1
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N1

@Yareally
Thanks for the advice. I was wondering what you thought of Krauser’s Daygame Mastery – he wanted a fair review so there’s no problem you being critical if you wish.

bluepillprofessor
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I had to study it to get it.

All of these pics are of “Fallen Princesses.”

Woman with kids and husband watching TV- Fallen.

Woman sitting on a pile of books implying she has read them= Fallen.

Woman getting botox- Definitely Fallen.

Woman is little fat riding hood= Fallen

Pocohontos Cat Lady= Fallen.

OK, I get it now.

theasdgamer
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@stuff

I figured that girls would see that flirting with a gay dude showed massive confidence and security. Maybe I don’t understand how girls would see that.

theasdgamer
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Snow White with a tongue stud…Fallen Princess.

stuffinbox
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@asd

I think flirting with a gay fella would disqualify a man as gay.Like lets just be friends.Besides being insincere.

stuffinbox
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@asd

In other words you handled the situation well,maybe being slightly amused would or did help your dhv idk.

theasdgamer
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@stuff

I think flirting with a gay fella would disqualify a man as gay.

Depends on how you carry it off, I think. If you are very indirect and subtle and don’t act effeminate, but show a lot of amused mastery, I think it would work.

stuffinbox
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@asd

Let me know how that works out for you.On second thought I don’t want to know.

Fred Flange, Authorized Safe Zone Pemit #333
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Fred Flange, Authorized Safe Zone Pemit #333

At Vox Day’s they are arguing over when was the last Disney movie that was a) good and b) at least boy-tolerant, if not about a boy protagonist. Most agreed that was probably The Lion King. Though a couple noticed that Zootopia had some nuance, in that the heroine would not trust the fox, and so the fax acted just like he assumed the distrust, and called her on her prejudice. They deliberately left out discussing Pixar, a studio which swings all over the place (i.e., no mention of Wall-E, definitely a boy robot, or Finding Nemo). But here are… Read more »

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hamster_wrestler

@Not Born This Morning: ““Honey you can be a princess and grow up to be just like me!” “Queen Of Whales!” “Disney will show you how to start, and then you can graduate to teeny sitcoms, and then soaps and Dr. Oz and Oprah, and Dr. Philoshit and The E channel and the food channel and…. …..and Disney and Nabisco and Mickey D’s and General Mills and…. will all get rich off your imbecilic idiocy as you blubber inflate your fat ass into horrendous hideous oblivion just like me your proud mommy!!!!!!” And don’t forget: VOTE FOR HILLARY. JUST PULL… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

Time Bandits was a Terry Gilliam movie, not Monty Python; Handmade Films, not Disney.

Yellow Submarine was United Artists- King Features, not Disney.

If we’re just talking older movies that are good for boys, there are piles of them. A lot of them are crap movies, but good for boys anyway, and boys will love them. Before they totally princessified Disney made a lot of these as live action (the discussion at Vox Popoli is just about animated movies).

Iron Will comes to mind of the more recent.

I’ll go with The Jungle Book as the last good Disney animated feature.

Fred Flange, Authorized Safe Zone Pemit #333
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Fred Flange, Authorized Safe Zone Pemit #333

Yes I’m talking good movies for boys, I was not looking for Disney. Time Bandits was directed by Terry Gilliam, written by Michael Palin and Terry Jones, Palin and John Cleese appear in it – all Pythons.

Yes there are lots more good movies for boys, those are just two which popped into my head.

Fred Flange, Authorized Safe Zone Pemit #333
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Fred Flange, Authorized Safe Zone Pemit #333

@redlight That Toronto Star article made my balls crawl up inside my pelvis for fear of being lopped off. Yikesters. I like your take on it. Mr. SJW Dud had me at “I’m nervous and scared.” Do tell. I bet he is, the likely fucked up result of his parenting makes ME nervous and scared. We MAH-dern parents fuck ourselves raw with a Crazy Straw getting all worried up in this DoublePlusGoodThink. The Paper or the Website say we must drop everything and have various “talks” on this week’s parenting fetishes to the bewilderment and boredom of our sprogs. What… Read more »

Longtorso
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Longtorso

Men Did Greater Things When It Was Harder To See Boobs
To make America great again we may need to make seeing boobs rare again.

SJB
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SJB

@kfg: The Jungle Book hit perfectly the seductiveness of the feminine. The male resistance is humorously couched in Baloo’s words; I think few Mowglis escape when the seductiveness turns into the FI.

Sentient
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Sentient

The RePatriarchy Episode 23 Took the boy 13 on a tournament weekend… Lacrosse is quite excellent for developing young male minds and bodies… We roll into a beach bar… Sweet little 7 strides up to take an order… I say “Beer here and the boy is not eating.” she says “why” i say “because we just robbed a bank and his nerves are still a little shot.. You know it was the first time for him”. She breaks out laughing and plays along.. “Oh yeah.. I remember my first time” switch to some game, a little laser… “Of course… The… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

“I think few Mowglis escape when the seductiveness turns into the FI.”

It lures men to civilization. It happened to Tarzan as well.

Tarl
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Tarl

The “Unhappy Marriage” shows Princess in a decent middle class home with four children with a decent looking, fit husband.

A healthy, pretty woman standing in a modest home with four children depicts the “tragic fate” of a “fallen princess”?

Nothing wrong with it, but it isn’t “being a Princess”, which means castles, servants, wealth, etc.

Main Street ain’t Buckingham Palace.

Bachelorocles
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Bachelorocles

@Gunnar von Cowtown “It’s the exact same feminist tripe the (((Dina Goldsteins))) of the world have been shilling for the past 50+ years.” They play adult working until they realize work is not glamourous and their ovaries begin to scream like Alx Rose. Then like predators they find a competitive hubby-worker-provider, settle into a McMansion in the burbs, and excrete a couple of womb rats. Once the womb rats reach two or five, they take up easy usually part time work or never return to work. But the notion housewifery is drudgery never leaves them and they use it to… Read more »

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@Rollo – I love that you just posted the pix and the vid. It didn’t need a long disquisition, yet it’s such a powerful point. Where are men/boys being treated like “princes” or “kings”? The entire idea would make Michelle Obama track you down and claw your fucking eyes out (if ya didn’t see Gavin McGuiness’s treatment of her hateful Father’s Day commentary, ya should head over to YouTube and check it out). @ Ya – This. “How much would looks/money matter if boys were given that experience every day from birth so they viewed themselves as having as much… Read more »

Johnycomelately
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Johnycomelately

The defining takeaway from the pictures is that being shackled with one man and domestic life is BOOORING.

The defining characteristics of a princess is that she has many suitors, many social engagements with sexy high status men, is served hand and foot, is the centre of attention, doesn’t have to work and is sought after and desired.

It’s Hyperagamy writ large, after all if she gets married she would become a queen and I’ve yet to see a story tale valorising being a queen.

The more you peel the onion the more it looks like the female isn’t naturally monogamous.

kaminsky
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kaminsky

“Main Street ain’t Buckingham Palace.” It’s closer than you think, especially for women. I read an article recently that pointed out how our current, modern lives are basically more wealthy, comfortable, healthy, pleasurable and abundant than Rockefeller’s was, just due to overall advances. If Black Americans were their own country, they would be the 12th wealthiest nation in the world (similar fact). Most American whining is because they compare their life to the upper class instead of to other countries or history. They ‘struggle’ of middle class America, even lower class America is overplayed. Big houses, patios, yards, clean air,… Read more »

kfg
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kfg

A Princess of Buckingham Palace:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4005672-4×3-940×705.jpg

Emily
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Emily

I don’t really get it. Why is this even here? It’s good art, and powerful social commentary.

As for the complaints about the unhappy marriage one… It’s very clear that Prince Charming is at the back totally not giving a single fuck about the kids or the wife. Now, sometimes that’s okay. My bf often acts like a Prince while I do everything. But that’s not always the case. Meanwhile, this artist is clearly trying to say that this is ALWAYS the case and she’s in an unhappy marriage with a man who doesn’t care.

YaReally
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@SJF No interest in LTRs. Pretty much all of the things that LTRs come with outside of what you get from FBs, are things that I don’t enjoy. I don’t like going to a girl’s family dinners, I don’t like hanging with her friends (since most of the time they’re not people I would hang out with, they’re people she grew up with or went to school with etc and are of massively varying quality), I don’t like seeing her dressed like shit with no makeup gassy after eating greasy takeout dinner, I don’t like worrying about whether her skipping… Read more »

redlight
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redlight

@Emily I don’t really get it. Why is this even here? It’s good art, and powerful social commentary. he’s at the lake, he’s male it in (that was rationally intended). As for the complaints about the NBA draft, sorry, unhappy marriage one… It’s very clear that Prince Charming is at the back totally not giving a zero fucks about the kids or the wife. Now, sometimes that’s perfect. My roommate often acts out like a Prince while I do everything. But that’s not always the case, just 99.9%. Meanwhile back at the raunch, this art tist is clearly trying to… Read more »

redlight
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redlight

@yareally (E don’t read this, you will become a lez) Here’s what men I hang out do. They attend weddings, funerals, baptisms, dinner parties, cottage parties, beach parties, backyard BBQs, church and school social events, community events, beer with the bros, soccer practices with moms in yoga pants. They go boating, what Rollo calls sledding, off-roading, fishing, hunting, motorcycling, racing, bicycling, running, playing in a band. They build decks, cabins, cottages, renos, cut down trees, put in roads They don’t take shit from anyone They teach men to be men, which you and Rollo do They do what they do,… Read more »

Emily
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Emily

Serious question, do you do these things because you ‘get pussy’ or because you actually enjoy them? I see so many guys on TRP trying to be what they aren’t just to get women chasing them. Well, if that makes them stop playing video games that’s a good thing, but to be attractive you have to be genuine and if you are only going hunting because ‘look at me! Look how MANLY I am OMG’ then naa, you won’t seem attractive, just a try hard. But yeah, if you actually don’t do any of these activities, if you have real… Read more »

kaminsky
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kaminsky

Emily, I’m assuming you’re commenting about the photo with Prince Charming in the chair while Snow White takes care of the kids (FI translation; “Does everything”) Your FI lens sees a husband worthy of criticism for not hopping around and doing what he should for the woman’s moment to moment happiness. The MI lens (what the hell is that?) sees a huge house with nice furniture, healthy kids, a TV, a nice fireplace, abundant food, a dog and all kinds of comfort for her, provided by his work. After so much work all week to provide a palace for her,… Read more »

Emily
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Emily

Kaminsky, Thank you for explaining your pov. First of all, unless you are rich I doubt anyone has access to a lifetime of 19 year old tail, but moving on… I think you are reading too much into it, and making far too many assumptions. I don’t find anything wrong with the picture, and that’s not because I’m part of the FI or whatever. I want to be a SAHM, live in a nice house and have 3 beautiful sons. But the question here is what did the artist intend for you to see? She wanted to show an unhappy… Read more »

kaminsky
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kaminsky

I don’t know what the artist intended. The best artists produce ambiguous work, don’t you think? “But how do you know ANY of that information? You don’t.” That’s silly. My interpretation is my interpretation. That’s what I know. How do you know the man in the chair isn’t Snow White’s transgendered sister who just got back from a satanic ritual in Pocatello, Idaho and then was cloned and the clone is in the chair right now and the actual sister is out on her new jetsurf? “You don’t.” Also, we’re supposed to read things into it. It’s art. My favorite… Read more »

YaReally
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@N1 “Thanks for the advice. I was wondering what you thought of Krauser’s Daygame Mastery – he wanted a fair review so there’s no problem you being critical if you wish.” He sent me Daygame Overkill (the video product), not the Daygame Mastery book. I’d like to do an in-depth breakdown of his actual infield footage at some point to show where I think he could tighten stuff up (more for his benefit than anything else, ’cause I like to see guys improve and I don’t think he’s anywhere near his ACTUAL potential skill level yet) but the general review… Read more »

kaminsky
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kaminsky

Ya Really, Dark take on LTR’s but I have to agree. The older I get, the less comfortable I get flinging an entire afternoon off into the dumpster at a picnic outing (with someone I already know inside and out), community BBQs or a long dinner with half-acquaintances etc. Time gets tight and a weekend given over to drinks, broccoli and carrot snacks followed by barbecued chicken and a bunch of facebook-come-to-life self-marketing style chatter is just HOURS that I could have spent reading, working on my projects and really learning. If a guy can really find a girl who… Read more »

YaReally
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@redlight “Here’s what men I hang out do.” I’m sure your bros are super cool. But like I said in my post, this is just how I’m wired and in my experience most guys in relationships in their mid-30s are lifeless zombies or Blue Pill chodes with negative depressing attitudes. I’m sure you guys enjoy your super-manly hobbies but I just find most of the stuff you wrote to be boring or just not something I’m interested in. No interest in attending soccer practices or hunting or playing in a band or building things or cutting down trees etc lol… Read more »

Emily
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Emily

Your interpretation is your interpretation yes, but you can’t insist that this is all part of an FI conspiracy just because you are interpretative a work of art with an anti-feminist bias. If you want to conduct a deeper analysis of it, approach it neutrally.

Culum Struan
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Culum Struan

@YaReally – I read a lot of Krauser’s stuff upto about 2013/14 (until I just got turned off by his general negative vibe – no complaints about his skills) and while I’ve not seen any of his latest products, I’m sure I remember him talking about how he actually finds it a lot easier to game native English speakers for all the reasons you say – he can bring in all his wordplay and verbal skills etc. I think he even has a few native-English-speaker FRs on his blog, but the vast majority are Eastern European (either in EE itself… Read more »

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@Emily – But wait, “standpoint” theory, a common foundation of “analysis” taught in every gender studies curriculum, tells us that Kaminsky’s POV is ineluctably colored by his lived experiences and the social conditioning he’s subjected to. His POV is ad true and valid as any other as there is no actual “neutral” position possible. And that, in fact, there are many truths available with none being any more valid than another.

Or are you claiming that this foundation of feminist theory is incorrect?

Emily
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Emily

Well, it is incorrect, but that’s besides the point. The point is, Kaminsky (and many others here, I guess) see that picture and interpret it as a perfectly lovely family. Okay, I’m fine with that. However, he then follows up by insisting that the author (and others) view that picture as an ‘unhappy marriage’ because of feminist indoctrination. That’s wrong. Thing is, other people don’t see the same thing you guys do. We don’t look at that and think ‘hey, this guy worked hard all day and is now relaxing at home with his wife whos looking after the children,… Read more »

kaminsky
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kaminsky

I wasn’t talking about the artist who made that photo. I was talking about you. Your take on it was pure FI. I wanted to share the MI of the same photo. I said nothing about the “FI conspiracy.” There’s no conspiracy. The FI dominates everything. You are oozing FI with every single one of your posts and you don’t even know it. Like how a fish doesn’t know it’s wet. And how unfair of you to say that my take has an “anti-feminist bias.” My take is my take. There was no ‘anti-feminism’ just because my take was different… Read more »

scribblerg
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scribblerg

@Emily – Also, I love this attitude many women, including FLOTUS Michelle who castigated men to do more with their children and around the house on Father’s Day, seem to be re-embracing today. The idea that men don’t do childcare and aren’t involved in parenting. Men have always been deeply involved in parenting, and the guys I know in marriages where both parents work run their tails off for their kids. Some drop them off at school, others are coaching their kid’s teams etc., many cook, clean and do primary childcare a lot of the time. 99.99% of what? The… Read more »

SJF
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SJF

@YaReally Thanks for the reply. What comes over in my interpretation of your response is not what lifestyle is best, it is that a man has to have a core mission. Yours is written loud and clear with no doubt as to your convictions. Keep with your convictions and keep following them. If they change, then follow that path. That is what important. With all the discussions previously about neuroplasticity and the knowledge of evo-psychology, a man can pretty much mold any kind of lifestyle he wants as long as he pursues an adventuous, passionate and dynamic path. I had… Read more »

kaminsky
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kaminsky

Ya Really, Yeah, it’s not ‘dark’ at all, actually, just very real. Amazing follow up post. It’s cool knowing that I’m not the only one and thanks for sharing those thoughts. It makes me feel less guilty about how bored I get with those situations, lol. I don’t know if it’s so much boredom though or just a sense of “Here I go again, wasting another 8 hour block of my life.” Give me 30 hour days and I would be more open to that stuff but time is tight. I have a mellow teaching job overseas though. So I’m… Read more »

The Man
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The Man

The prince charming and princess pic – what I read from it is prince charming (watching the sport of king’s – polo, on the telly) now has his own little kingdom but is not overjoyed with the results nevertheless, and princess now has fulfilled her baby-fest dreams but is not overjoyed with the results nevertheless. Makes you want to ask yourself – why? So perhaps the “art” is that there is an implied challenge to the beholder, to speculate upon that. My speculation might be – well their dreams didn’t turn out too sweet for anybody perhaps (except for the… Read more »

YaReally
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@SJF “(My daughter is 24 and has been dating a guy that my wife and I think highly of. And and that is like riding a rollercoaster. But not one that has extreme highs or extreme lows and she has a stable framework from UMC (upper middle class) to work with.) On the show so far, about 17 men have been eliminated out of say 26. The Bachelorette herself seems to have nothing to offer any of the guys except her beauty (which is marginal at best) and her emotions. Plus show provided venues to frolick in. I see no… Read more »

SJF
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SJF

“Does the social conditioning aid in eroding self-respect?” That’s all part of the plan. At least Emily knows to have babies early and often. But she should make sure she chooses wisely and treats kindly. As F. Roger Devlin explains in that podcast, women gaining multiple undergraduate degrees and masculine accomplishments to display to the world and a prospective mate, ends up in women turning into cat ladies after their window of fertility degrades. (Men would just more likely desire an 18 year old waitress to have babies with, if they wanted babies). The tragedy of high quality women degrading… Read more »

SJF
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SJF

Correction: The best way to make a woman unhappy is to give her anything she asks for and not reign in her hypergamy.

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@YaReally “Like you’re looking “to see if they could actually get any guidance from it on how women should relate to men in a 2016 Disney Princess world and all”…well THERE’S the guidance they’re subconsciously taking away from it lol” Agree 100% with everything you said. I got that same message in the show. That is why I typed that out about the Bachelorette: Precisely because is backs up what Rollo and you are saying. The women actually just get it too. The Bachelorette understands intuitively why she rejected Chad the alpha and Evan the beta. Too much risk in… Read more »

Water Cannon Boy
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Water Cannon Boy

There are commercials going on now about a movie coming out called “Bad Moms”. It will have the cliched home life driving a woman crazy scenes. But essentially it seems it will be empowering for a woman to basically be incompetent while a man in that role would be just incompetent.

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SJF – I read that F. Roger Devlin essay “Sexual Utopia In Power”. yesterday evening, and yeah – his take is one way to frame things (as you have partially outlined in your comment here), but still ….. something just doesn’t sit quite right with me wrt his analysis. He seems to de-emphasize this “mutual respect based on respect for the other’s self-agency” thing (without actually denigrating it in the essay – but I haven’t read any of his other stuff yet, so I don’t know why he as chosen to de-emphasize that). I’m still thinking about all this stuff… Read more »

Water Cannon Boy
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Bachelorette is one of the worst shows on, however, I too watched some of it analytically and I think it should be noted that she kept Chad around for a long time and didn’t get rid of him until the other men started telling on him.
Virtuous motivations perhaps. But my opinion is probably colored by if it were me, if she chooses Chad, then she gets what you wishes for. But I think they just couldn’t stand that she liked him. Nice guy syndrome.

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@YaReally Not disagreeing, just trying to amplify the dynamic: “Kind of like how an adrenaline junkie who skydives on the weekend would find it stifling to have to work a desk job and give up skydiving.” Not kind of like, exactly like. That is why all that previous talk about how the brain handles Dopamine in the limbic system. Hence the need for balance to avoid addiction in the long run. Whenever I get bored or addicted to one thing, I dial up my nine other dopamine inputs. Music, good parenting, fucking my wife, hobbies, good guy friend relationships, chainsaw… Read more »

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@emily “Serious question, do you do these things because you ‘get pussy’ or because you actually enjoy them? I see so many guys on TRP trying to be what they aren’t just to get women chasing them.” They do it because they enjoy it. My friends who have Harleys didn’t buy them to get pussy. My friends who have boats don’t expect pussy to jump into the boat. Then this type of thing occurs, which nobody can figure out: McLachlan met her hockey-player boyfriend at a charity event held at her home. “I saw those big blue eyes, and I’m… Read more »

Water Cannon Boy
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Water Cannon Boy

Rollo had a post about marriage or could have been what it means to stay in a marriage, but it started off as it’s mostly about the times that you spend with each other doing things like sitting across from each other eating oatmeal for breakfast. It’s just mostly regular stuff. The Snow White picture is about the fairy tell that’s sold. Yeah, every thing is exciting in the beginning. But you’ll mostly have days you’re eating oatmeal together. You still in love on those days? That’s all the Snow White photo is about. But who’s the girl in the… Read more »

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@Water Cannon Boy Chad was the the ultimate alpha male Chad. Don’t deny women their ultimate alpha male fantasies. Don’t deny your wife being desirous of the of the 6’3″ chiseled guy at the country club party at the bar at 11:00. Just have .001% better game. She wanted Chad bad. But Chad fucked up because he was incongruent and The Bachelortte had to be told overtly that he was lying to her in being sweet to her and being an asshole to every other male behind her back. Violent and punching doors and AMOGing every single other male behind… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
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Correction: The best way to make a woman unhappy is to give her anything she asks for and not reign rein in her hypergamy.

FIFY.

“Rein” vs. “Reign” and “Lose” vs. “Loose” are common errors.

Anonymous Reader
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Anonymous Reader

This imagery (arranged and shot by a woman) scare you because you see yourself in them.

Examine each image. Not one of them contains fried ice…oh, noes!

SJF
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SJF

“I’m still thinking about all this stuff ….. like a thought that comes to mind – well…… what would happen if men and women started to emphasize this “mutual respect based on respect for the other’s self-agency” thing?

Wouldn’t that tend to mitigate for the erosion of self-respect that is currently occurring by way of the social conditioning?”

No.

Because Hope is not a Strategy.

It is not the “Way of Men” or “The Rational Male”.

Have your even even read those books, bro?

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@Rollo “The pretext of being a ‘wife’ is a socially excusable expectation of progressively losing sexual affinity for the man she’s agrees to marry, so what woman wants to be a wife? Women become wives due to the necessities an ever-decreasing capacity to maintain being a lover requires of them.” Once her womb rats are extruded, many wives will begin to de-sex themselves. They will at first gain a little weight and then cut hair distorting it to resemble a war helmet or a mushroom cap. Scientists have found a strong correlation between the appearance of helmet-hair and the strange… Read more »

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“I’m still thinking about all this stuff ….. like a thought that comes to mind – well…… what would happen if men and women started to emphasize this “mutual respect based on respect for the other’s self-agency” thing?

What if fried ice could really be on a menu?

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The Person Formerly Known As Wild Person:
SJF – I read that F. Roger Devlin essay “Sexual Utopia In Power”. yesterday evening, and yeah – his take is one way to frame things (as you have partially outlined in your comment here), but still ….. something just doesn’t sit quite right with me wrt his analysis.

You never post anything even remotely like a Field Report. That means you never test your model of male / female relations in the real world.

You are still living almost entirely inside your own head. How’s that working out?

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