Fempowerment

fempowerment

I’m often asked by ‘fempowered’ women critics whether I ‘believe‘ in some of the more socially acceptable tenets of feminism in some sort defense to the affront of my Red Pill lens being cast their way. It’s usually something to do with, “Do you or do you not think women ought to have the right to vote?” or the ever-reliable “Shouldn’t women have the right to do with their bodies what they choose?” These questions are always binary (“yes or no will do”) and usually couched in a context that implies that if you even slightly disagree or have a marginal caveat to answering ‘appropriately’ you’ll be dismissed with a name tag that has “misogynist” printed on it. Say no and you’re a despicable misogynist. Say yes and you’re tar-pitted in “yes, but” caveats – mansplaining – that are disqualified because you’re a man.

Say no and you’re a despicable misogynist. Say yes and you’re tar-pitted in “yes, but” caveats – mansplaining – that are disqualified because you’re a man. Up until recently, it’s been a very effective means of silencing uncomfortable truths about the Feminine Imperative.

I’ve always found it ironic that a movement (feminism) that predicates itself on the ostensibly egalitarian notion that rational, reasonable considerations of issues should lead us to ideals of equality is the first to reduce itself to unquestioned, blind faith binaries at the first sign of rational reasonable truth being unflattering to women. If you want to know who holds power over you, look at whom you aren’t allowed to criticise – or even hint at criticism.

My position on these and many other questions of the sort is usually met with simple observational analysis (as you’d probably expect). I don’t necessarily have a problem with women voting or even having access to legal (relatively safe) abortions. What I have a problem with is the latent purpose behind the reasons that led to women’s decisions to vote a particular way or the latent purposes that brought them to having that abortion. For the greater part, any dubious ‘right’ women feel they were somehow denied in the past usually comes at the expense of men being liable for decisions they had nothing to do with.

What I have a problem with is an expectation of lowering the standards of the game, thus fundamentally altering the game, to better accommodate the variable strengths and weaknesses of women – up to, and including, changing the very nature of women’s environmental realities that would endanger the wellbeing of both sexes. What I take issue with is the expectation of making men liable for the decisions and consequences of the rights and freedom of choices we’ve reserved for only women to make (almost unilaterally Hypergamic choices) that are not in men’s best interests.

I mentioned in Our Sister’s Keeper that men today find themselves in a very precarious position with regard to entertaining women’s perceived wrongs of the past. Men are expected,by default, to be held accountable, for no other reason than they were born men, for past injuries to the ever-changing Feminine Imperative. Your existence as a man today, your failed understanding to accommodate women’s social primacy, your lack of catering to the ambiguous nature of what conveniently passes for masculinity, is a constant stinking affront and obstacle to the “advancement” of women. The Feminine Imperative has known how to manipulate men’s Burden of Performance for millennia, and at not other time in history has it had the unfettered leisure to do so than now.

So, we get socially acceptable default presumptions of ‘male privilege’ without qualifying what it even means, or we get catchy jingoisms like ‘mansplaining’ to give a name to women’s need for silencing men’s inconvenient observations of women’s ‘correct’ perceptions, decisions and the reasons they came to them. We get default presumptions of male guilt for sexual assault and sexual consent as fluidly defined in as convenient a way that serves women’s imperatives. As I’ve mentioned before, the true intent of feminism has never been about establishing a mutually agreed ‘equality’, rather it’s always been about retribution and restitution for perceived past wrongs to the sisterhood.

There has always been a subtext, a cover story, of equality mentioned in the same breath as feminism. Only the most antagonistic asshole, only the most anti-social prick, would be against “equality between the sexes”. Thus, to be against feminism is to be against a simplistic concept of baseline equality. However, taken out of the propagandizing efforts to shame and ‘correct’ men’s imperatives, it’s easy to demonstrate that the true intent of feminism is female ‘fempowerment’ in the dressing of an equality that no man (or woman) wants to appear to be against.

Yellowed Pearls

I found an interesting example of this  Catch 22 in the Economist recently. Pick and choose: Why women’s rights in China are regressing.

In 2007 China’s official Xinhua news agency published a commentary about women who were still unmarried at the age of 27 under the title, “Eight Simple Moves to Escape the Leftover Woman Trap”. The Communist Party had concluded that young Chinese women were becoming too picky and were over-focused on attaining the “three highs”: high education, professional status and income. Newspapers have since reprinted similar editorials. In 2011 one said: “The tragedy is they don’t realise that as women age they are worth less and less, so by the time they get their MA or PhD, they are already old, like yellowed pearls.”

In the last Red Pill Monthly discussion, I mentioned the expansion that the Feminine Imperative has taken on a global scale. One of the old missives of the manosphere has always been about how American women are too far gone to be worth ever entertaining beyond a pump-and-dump consideration. They are too damaged and self-absorbed beyond all redemption, and men ought to expatriate to another country where women are more feminine or at least necessitous enough to appreciate a conventionally masculine man.

I get that. I understand the want for a Poosy Paradise or some promised land where women are still raised to respect and love men by being conventionally feminine. I also get that there exist certain cultures where this is still true, but for all of that, I think it’s important to recognize the social undercurrent that the Feminine Imperative exercises in these cultures. A popular meme on Twitter is ‘Feminism is Cancer’, but there’s a kernel of truth to the humor of this. The spread of the westernizing social primacy of the Feminine Imperative is spreading, not unlike cancer, into what we would otherwise believe were societies and cultures still oppressed by the mythical Patriarchy – a belief necessary to perpetuate the narrative of default female victimhood.

It may not be now, but at some stage, the Feminine Imperative will exercise its presumptive control over even the societies we think ought to be immune from that cancer. As I mention on The Red Pill Monthly, even in underdeveloped countries where we would expect to find the horrible oppression of girls and women, we make a triumphant example of the incidents of where girls (not boys) are taught to read and “think for themselves”. Westernized culture, founded on the Feminine Imperative, celebrates every time a woman in Saudi Arabia is allowed to drive a car, much less run a business on her own as if it were some blow against the tyranny of men.

Little by little, or in leaps and bounds, your second or third world Poosy Paradise will eventually be assimilated by the Feminine Imperative.

I bring this up because, as you’ll read in the linked article, China is also experiencing the long-term results of having adopted feminine social primacy in its own culture. From women’s popular consciousness, we’re still, to this day, told of how horrible “communist” China has been in mandating its one-child policy and how its draconian ‘sons live, daughters die’ social structure has been the result. However, once we reasonably investigate it, we find that China now has a problem with “Yellowed Pearls” as a result of a cultural shift that placed women’s interests as preeminent in that culture. And it should be noted that this shift came about as the direct result of the men who adopted and accommodated the Feminine Imperative as their own.

Now the problem for women in China is not unlike the plight of American women bemoaning the lack of men with “equal” marriageability as themselves. And likewise, the self-same social authorities responsible for institutionalizing the fempowerment of women are now the horrible misogynist villains for suggesting that women ought to lower their unrealistic standards.

The tone of these articles is surprising, given the Communist Party’s past support for women’s advancement. Mao Zedong destroyed China, but he succeeded in raising the status of women. Almost the first legislation enacted by the Communist Party in 1950 was the Marriage Law under which women were given many new rights, including the right to divorce and the right to own property.

Sounds a far cry different from the pictures women, even women in this century, have painted of China’s institutionalized, one-child sexism doesn’t it? Remember, this advancement in women’s rights took place before the Cultural Revolution in China.

Though collectivisation made the latter largely irrelevant, women played an active role in Mao’s China, and still do today. By 2010 26% of urban women had university degrees, double the proportion ten years earlier. Women now regularly outperform men at Chinese universities, which has led to gender-based quotas favouring men in some entrance exams. However, many of the earlier advances have been eroded in recent years by the gradual re-emergence of traditional patriarchal attitudes.

Consider this part in contrast to other industrialized nations and how women have increased their socio-political standing as the result of having the Feminine Imperative adopted as the primary social order of those cultures. Even in cultures that are still popularly deemed “repressive” to women we see educational and socioeconomic parallels to western(ized) cultures. We also see the same resulting consequences and the shifting of blame for them to men. The downside of Yellowed Pearls is placed at the feet of men for not living up to the convenient, feminine-primary definition of what their Burden of Performance ought to mean in promoting and forgiving women’s decisions.

The party has joined an alliance of property companies and dating websites to confront the issue. Government surveys on marriage and property are often sponsored by matchmaking agencies, and perpetuate the perception that being “leftover” is the worst thing that can happen to a woman. They also promote other myths, such as the idea that a man must have a house before he can marry.

As you may expect, the tone of the article is written to emphasize an egalitarian perspective that conflicts with a reality that the Feminine Imperative would have men change or be responsible for not having changed. It’s men’s fault that women might feel bad for not having married by a post-wall age. It’s men’s fault for promoting myths that women would expect that a man must be successfully established in his life and career before any considerations of marriage occur to him. It’s also a man’s fault for clinging to the “myth” that women don’t want him to be established.

The law is reflecting the shift away from women’s empowerment too. An interpretation by the Supreme Court in 2011 of the 1950 Marriage Law stated that, when a couple divorces, property should not be shared equally, but each side should keep what is in his or her own name. This ruling, says Ms Fincher, has serious implications. In the big cities a third of marriages now end in divorce but, based on hundreds of interviews, she finds that only about 30% of married women have their name on the deeds of the marital flat. Women believe the party hype about becoming a “leftover” woman so strongly, she says, that many rush into unhappy marriages with unsuitable men, made on condition that the brides agree not to put their name on the property deeds.

Feminism Would be a Success if Men Would Only Cooperate More

Several years ago Dalrock had a post detailing the sentiment of feminists that feminism would be a success if only men would cooperate with the ideology by abandoning their own interests and sublimating their own biological impulses. The fact remains that feminism and egalitarianism are failed ideologies because at the root level those ideologies ask men to participate in their own extinction. Not only this, but they ask men to raise successive generations to accommodate and participate in their own degradation.

The narrative expects Yellowed Pearls to be prized by men, or respected as Spinsters, or pandered to as ‘Cougars’ while still maintaining men sublimate their own imperatives by willfully ignoring the fact that their own sexual strategy is what is being asked of them to abandon. As I stated in the Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies, for one sex’s strategy to succeed the other must either be compromised or abandoned – what better way is there to assure this for women than to socially mandate through shame, persecution or financial liabilities that men abandon their own strategy in favor of women?

For some time now, I’ve detailed how for the past 4 or 5 generations, there has been a popular social re-engineering effort to raise and condition boys to become the ‘better betas‘ – boys designed to become the supportive male-reinforcers of empowering women’s interests and imperatives.

For a greater part this effort has been primarily focused on boys and men in western society, and while it’s still open for debate, I’d say that westernizing cultures are really the only cultural environments that can afford to entertain this ‘fempowerment’. This is changing radically now if it was ever really the case to begin with.

In the manosphere we like to highlight the ‘pussification’ of modern men through various efforts on the part of a nebulous ‘socitey’ aligned against masculinity. However, the flip side to this is the fempowerment agenda; an feminine-primary social structure that disallows any criticism of inherently female nature while promoting the empowerment of women on every level of social strata.

We coddle and cater to the feminine in every aspect of social interaction, every aspect of academic achievement, every socioeconomic advantage inventable, every story we tell in every form of media and we do so under the threat of not being supportive or misogynistic for suggesting anything marginally pro-masculine. This is the other side of the demasculinization imperative of boys & men – the total consolidation of handicaping men and empowering women into unrealistic effigies of feminine triumphalism.

How do you counter this?

I’m always lauded for describing these social dynamics, but I’m run up the flagpole for not offering concrete ways of dealing with and pushing back on these imperatives. Many a MGTOW will simply suggest men no longer play the Game, that isolationism is the way to go, but this only serves to eventually concede power to the Feminine Imperative. You don’t get to check out of the Game even if you refuse to play it. For all the guys who left for parts unknown to find their demi-utopia of feminine women in a foreign country, even they will explain that the tide of feminism is changing those seemingly idlyic places. And for every guy to voluntarilly go celebate and “refuse to deal with women” I’ll show you a man whose tax dollars go to fund the consequences of women’s legislated rights to Hypergamous choice.

Sooner or later Men will have to confront and push back against both men and women who are convinced of their purpose in idealizing the dictates of the Feminine Imperative. A lot of men in the ‘sphere believe their being clever when they refer to people with this worldview as ‘SJWs’, but for every hair dyed, gender-confused man-woman you see on Twitter there are hundreds of ‘normal’ people who all share similar perspectives – some simply subconscious generalization they’re oblivious to – sitting next to you at church, or working in the cubicle next to you.

As I’ve mentioned countless times, the change needs to take place by appealing to the hearts and minds of Men by making them Red Pill aware from the bottom up, but moreover, we need to live out that awareness in our own lives and lead by Red Pill example. Our decisions in life, our aspiration in parenting, family and career, in our business dealings, in the women we Game and the people we hire, all of these aspects need to take on the perspective of how they fit into pushing back against a feminine-primary world that demands we surrender any thought of individuated male power.

As Men, we need to unapologetically exercise what little power we’re left with to inform this and successive generation of Red Pill truths tactfully, but with strength of conviction in the face of a feminine-primary society bent on our surrender. Life finds a way. Feminism and the consolidation of the Feminine Imperative have failed because Men were not evolved to acquiesce their dominant spirit. On the same evolutionary level women also evolved into requiring that convnetionally masculine dominance. This is why feminism and egalitarianism will ultimately fail – nature simply will not cooperate with it’s own stagnation. As men, we can use this truth to our Red Pill aware advantage.

Published by Rollo Tomassi

Author of The Rational Male and The Rational Male, Preventive Medicine

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IAS, it’s axiomatic that men and women lie about their N, and that men increase the number while women decrease it. I’d have to look at the study to guesstimate how far from reality the numbers are; anonymity matters a lot.

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@ Blax

If you get a chance, check out The Creature from Jekyll Island.

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@IAS:

I mean that the women know they are going to dance with him. They aren’t going to fuck him. There is no end game. He’s “safe.”

This frees them to behave in ways they wouldn’t if they were taking The Ultimate Risk. It’s fantasy play. They get the experience of being the star of a trapeze act without a net, because they know in advance that they cannot. fall.

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And this just in:

“Masculinity is a decorative feature that is essentially counter-productive.”

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/apr/26/grayson-perry-bear-grylls-masculinity

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@Blax “Wassup Bro?” Livin the dream. “I have come to the conclusion over the past 15-20 years that Capitalism has become more akin to a religion, the tenets of which can never be questioned lest ye be Marxist/Communist/Anarchist/Freedom-Hating.” Seems that way. I think capitalism is the best solution. I just think it needs a couple tweaks so that there’s more competition, not as much collusion, and fewer barriers to entry. I don’t think the Fed is inherently bad. Although, I do think there’s a bit of an incestuous relationship with Goldman Sachs and the central banks. BUT, I guess those… Read more »

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@ Softek

I recall reading The Creature from Jekyll Island a few decades ago, but I’m due for a refresher.

The whole fiat currency thing was/is troubling to me, mostly because the Fed and World Banks exercise way too much control in nations that are supposed to be capitalist.

Like, how does the Fed create money, out of thin air ( for QE and other bullshit..), yet inflation doesn’t skyrocket?

Neat trick. Money doesn’t even follow it’s own damn rules anymore.

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Blax “I don’t have a dog in the Trump fight, except to point out that he’s not all that smart” How do you arrive at this conclusion? “send kids to college if they desired without getting tangled up in decades of debt.” The Equalist narrative is tied to debt… college for everyone, who can borrow money… erase the government guaranties and colleges and college degrees would be worth something again… and 25% of the population would have them. But “muh equalz” demand it… Same with housing… everyone needs one… if they can borrow for it… “Track the acquisition of debt… Read more »

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@ AR You know, ASD, it might just be that what scray means by the words “pulled from the dance floor” isn’t the same thing that you mean. To put it another way, I bet his subcomms aren’t the same as yours, because his intent is not the same as yours. My subcomms with girls who aren’t fugly are always playful and sexy, no matter my intent. The subcomms deriving from Intent to flirt isn’t all that much different from the subcomms deriving from intent to bang. I’m not convinced that girls can even tell if there’s intent to bang… Read more »

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“I’m still waiting to hear from other men that women that they just met in a bar grab their butts/spank/get in their grid etc. just by seeing them . . .”

I stopped going to bars when they banned smoking in them, so I have to make do with women grabbing my ass just out and about in public on my own.

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Ass…. no. Cock… yes. Multiple times.

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@Sentient @Culum Struan @Forge the Sky That “be the change” FR is a rock solid story. That’s the shit I’m talking about…solid setup to a huge emotional spike. Imagine you got a bunch of shit like THAT stockpiled Forge, you could have kept those girls going for an hour and another beer and then the sister says “I have to get up early I’ll meet you at home” and you joke “oh no don’t leave her with ME, why do you hate me?? lol” and tease her about “man your own SISTER bailed on you, she must know something I… Read more »

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@Rollo All good, I saved it just incase ’cause my internet sucks lol: Shoe0nHead doing her part to spread the good word: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFQvSvwLIYY Regardless of what you think of Sargon, Armored Skeptic, or some of the weirdos she’s linking, or her intentions or her relationship, she’s sending her viewers out toward other YouTubers who are questioning the narrative and confronting the FI which is what helps people realize there are others that have the same questions they’ve had behind closed doors. I said here way back when that Manosphere(MRA? MGTOW? Can’t remember) dude went on the news without his face… Read more »

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Just posted it again but it’s gone to mod. Is her name banned or something lol there’s only one link/vid in the post and nothing else that should trigger any mod stuff in theory.

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A cosmetics company is capitalizing on this – check this video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irfd74z52Cw

(Have to turn on subtitles).

Reminds me of the Dove company when they did the whole “fat women are beautiful too” campaign.

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@ Sentient Yoooo Maaannnn!!!! Okay, Just for the record, I do not have HIV…. “I don’t have a dog in the Trump fight, except to point out that he’s not all that smart” How do you arrive at this conclusion? I came to this conclusion over the past 30 years of being exposed to Trump, and hearing a few of his speeches ( against my will ). He’s older now, but he didn’t get wiser. Too busy trying to make more money, which is okay, but it makes him an incomplete man, imo. But currently, listening to his speeches as… Read more »

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One last look by George Meeks at this endless do nothing loop. Give blue pill examples in perpetuity. Re-explain hypergamy into infinitude. Prescribe red pill awareness forever. That is all great and perhaps wanted by many. But all this is only diagnosis. All this endless analysis, pontification, and nuanced exemplifications are only a suffering of the symptoms. This is not the solution, not the cure. The symptoms are a result of the basic malady. The cause is ignored as the symptoms are used to distract oneself from the cause. Compulsively obsessing over the symptoms does not stop them from reoccurring… Read more »

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To the above comment that people are sick of Fem-centric articles and sounding off in the comments. Check out this article and the comments, lol:

https://ca.style.yahoo.com/post/143426839085/blog-reveals-disturbing-movie-poster-trend-that

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I happen to find the idea of calling Trump “Der Drumpf” mildly amusing, similarly I tip my Mr. Baldo hat to the NY Post for devising “BAM” as Obama’s go-to nickname.

Funny how Trumpenistas seem to get just as butthurt about shade being thrown Das Donald’s way as any Hillary-ster or one of Beyoncé’s Hive-minders.

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Just to be clear, I’m not anti Trump mostly. I just don’t think he’s qualified to be the actual President. What I do dislike immensely is the GOP trying to oust him from getting the nomination. Cruz is a tool and Kasich is a moron, so there aren’t any really smart choices at all, but the voting and delegates either mean something, or they do not. The underlying mechanics here speak of something very troubling and nasty being played out right before out eyes. Trump’s ” message “, whatever that really is, is resonating with large groups for some reason.… Read more »

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“I don’t have a dog in the Trump fight, except to point out that he’s not all that smart”

It’s OK, man, they can’t all be Lassie. It’s how he feels about you that counts.

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@Forge @Scray Holy hell, that’s how you tear me a new one! Lol. Primed me to learn from this though. scray gave you great advice… i just want to point out that all of scray’s advice about ‘topics’ and ‘attitude’ is that he is recommending commenting on SUBCOMMS… he is NOT ASKING… and he is making COMMENTS about things that are not surface level apparent = understands social interactions = big ass DHV…lol…like this example: then, instead of asking them a creeper question, you just paid them a joking compliment — mainly to the sister: so you guys getting your… Read more »

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PUA, this blog, all this nonsense, is nothing more than an elaborate evolution of smoking mirrors; a futile attempt to compensate. This chicanery cannot hide lack of self confidence, it only advertises personal doubt and ineptitude. The vacuum of self-doubt cannot be filled with all this bullshit because self-doubt is a bottomless pit.

Please stop projecting your own mindset onto everyone else.

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I mean that the women know they are going to dance with him. They aren’t going to fuck him. There is no end game. He’s “safe.” From my recent dance experience. 1. A woman was working on logistics. She’s thinking about fucking. 2. Close to last call, one said she was taking off. With a raised eyebrow! A proposition. (I knew her previously.) 3. One told me, “I let you do whatever you wanted with me.” Lasering, grinning, eyes wide, flushed cheeks. Basically throwing herself at me. 4. Immediately after a girl cupped my buttcheek, the next girl was lasering… Read more »

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Blax…

“but the voting and delegates either mean something, or they do not.

The underlying mechanics here speak of something very troubling and nasty being played out right before out eyes.

Some smart guy wrote something about “Why do my eyes hurt?” or something… ICR???

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@ YaReally “The subcomms deriving from Intent to flirt isn’t all that much different from the subcomms deriving from intent to bang.” lol no this wrong. There’s a difference. Go to any stripclub and you’ll see a shitload of “intent to flirt” with zero “intent to bang”. Try to seduce/fuck the strippers and you’ll see the difference between how they treated you when they thought you were a safe flirt VS when they realize you actually want to FUCK them You’re a bright guy, but you got this wrong. If the girls could tell that you intended to fuck them,… Read more »

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Fred Flange – the thing is all the Drumpf and and der Donald dweebs.. they are always sliding around as wolf in sheep’s clothes… the issue is not with the failed rebranding attempts… it’s the lack of honesty “brah”… always cetherdral Shills when called out. How can you tell.. they never answer a question… always deflect, ignore their own statements, hell most of them contradict themselves within the same banal sentences… That’s the rub… If they would just come out as Bernie supporters, Hillary folk or the actual equalist/Marxists they are… well all’s fair then. But you don’t see it.… Read more »

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@ YaReally

My subcomms are a whole lot like Bruce Willis’ subcomms. I didn’t aim for that, It Just Happened ™. lol I amuse myself.

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Blax.. couple last ones for today…

“But currently, listening to his speeches as he started campaigning for prez, should remove all doubt about Donald having higher intelligence. “

But watching the results (#winning) indicates he is highly intelligent.. or do you think he is just lucky? Over and over and over and over again?

One of my barometers for endorsing a presidential candidate is that they have to know more than I do.”

Every single person with a top security clearance knows more than you do… I think you’ll find them very unqualified in total…

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“The subcomms deriving from Intent to flirt isn’t all that much different from the subcomms deriving from intent to bang.” yikes. flirting is what I do for fun with women who are cute but don’t interest me for whatever reason. also known as being nice. intent to bang is another universe entirely. we both know the end result and that getting there is more than half the fun. also known as foreplay. the subcomms from being nice are very different than the subcomms from foreplay. when women say they like foreplay, they don’t mean fingering/oral/physical stuff immediately prior to piv.… Read more »

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@Rollo Could you save Forge’s ass and edit his comment at: https://therationalmale.com/2016/04/24/fempowerment/comment-page-2/#comment-153239 to remove his description of the venue (from the words “It was a really cool place” to “not unexpected” a sentence later), and remove the description of the appetizer (the entire “Damn. I was hankering for” paragraph that ends with “Nvm.”), and remove the type of beer he was drinking (“She tells me how the food is, the”)? And since it got quoted, could you remove the same stuff (appetizer description and beer type) from this post too: https://therationalmale.com/2016/04/24/fempowerment/comment-page-2/#comment-153310 I narrowed down where Forge lives to a 15… Read more »

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@Rollo check the modded posts, just sent one there right now that’s specifically for you thx

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“tax dollars go to fund the consequences of women’s legislated rights to Hypergamous choice”? fed backed non-discharagable student loans for “liberal arts” which raises the cost of “education” for everyone else “free” birth control and other fem service required by the aca. benzos to control their anxiety make-work paper-pushing jobs so these women have somewhere to go while they ride the carousel all the “mental health” professionals these women have a right to see before they abort their babies interesting how there was a big jump in suicides in older women. the same group subjected to feminism who decided that… Read more »

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@ Sentient Lol. You know, we should be having this discussion over cold beers and hot steaks. Just saying… ” But watching the results (#winning) indicates he is highly intelligent.. or do you think he is just lucky? Over and over and over and over again?” Winning doesn’t necessarily denote intelligence, but I get what you’re saying. As far as Donald winning votes and delegates, I’m sure that it is due to the palpable anger and anxiety in the country. People are sick of standard, bullshit politicians. Congress has been setting new lows in confidence levels for years now. That… Read more »

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Theasdgamer, you’re autistic if you think first and second wave feminism are different. The former develops into the latter organically, just like classical liberalism morphs into social liberalism/progressivism over time. And marriage being oppressive and the other tropes of second wave feminism have been currents within feminism since the 19th century. Heck, some abolitionists viewed marriage such too. Maybe read some primary sources and study some history of ideas instead of some half baked conspiracy theories. It’s also autistic to give a group of people the vote that’s a huge voting block and not expect ideologies to realign based on… Read more »

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http://gizmodo.com/the-best-place-to-find-stuff-on-reddit-is-promoting-mys-1772992114

ohhhh the salt. lol TRP got like 700+ new subs (and that doesn’t count the new lurkers).

Just take a look at the author. It’s obvious he’s a typical SJW hipster shitbag.

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Lol hoellen, that’s a chick.

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YaReally – I have more posts and responses coming but two quick ones for you: 1. You’re suggesting watching porn to normalize sex. What thoughts on the school of thought that suggests too much porn is bad for the brain and normalizes your thinking to expect the extreme/constant variety to the point where real women/real life can’t satisfy you anymore? Sites like yourbrainonporn.com or a Youtube talk by James Marshall or any number of similar sites. 2. On the security issue: this is why I go to some solid lengths to limit identifying info about myself. Easy to just imagine… Read more »

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@ fleezer I think we have a vagueness problem. For me, flirting is more than being nice and more than telling a woman that I see her as a woman. For me, flirting is engaging and telling a woman that sex is an option if all the hurdles are cleared. I don’t intentionally do this…it’s my natural state. It’s the only way as a man in a LTR to be sure that you have options. I don’t tell the woman that sex is a done deal because that would be leading her on. I almost never intentionally qualify a woman… Read more »

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@ fleezer Last time I was in a strip club was decades ago. An ex-buddy took me there against my will (he was driving). It was cold and I went in after waiting for ten minutes. I ought to have called Mrs. Gamer from some store to come pick me up. Anyway, I walked in and sat down and two strippers sat down at the table with me. I wasn’t a happy camper. My ex-buddy also sat down and an old stripper took my hand and poured, yes, poured her tit into my hand. It was like a baggie about… Read more »

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“On the security issue: this is why I go to some solid lengths to limit identifying info about myself. Easy to just imagine this is shooting the shit with my buddies and basically just the 20 odd people who post regularly here, but it’s not.”

Just curious… Have I doxxed myself unintentionally?

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Andy: No idea dude, I haven’t checked lol. Nothing occurs to me about your posts..but then again, it didn’t occur to me that Forge had doxxed his location till YaReally pointed it out.

The fact is there’s no such thing as perfect security (if the girls I date or my wings read my posts, they pretty much will know who I am) but I go to some lengths to make sure my location/career etc can’t be identified from my posts..and that’s a pretty good target to have.

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Lol. I’ve given out enough info about myself that it would be pretty easy for someone to track me down if they put in some effort. It sucks to an extent. I have some videos and pics that I’m sure you’d get a kick out of, but as a security professional…he he hee.. it’s not wise. Nothing incriminating, but if my company got wind- not good. There was an employee that worked here once. Liked to wear see thru tops, no bra, out and about town. Someone took photos of her and posted them on some social media ( don’t… Read more »

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I have a weird memory for that shit. I don’t remember how, but I knew where Forge was from even before that. I may have given enough away… Too late now.

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I don’t try to figure out where the guys are from. If I see something, my mind just skips over it. I’m still tempted to ask sometimes, but I don’t do so. Lol, but I give my location all the time. It’s a huge city of 230,000 people so I’m all needle in haystack-ish. Maybe I’ll pay more attention and do like Ya and give a heads up if I see something. U know, see something/say something. My stepdaughter was posting on some dating site, and she used her pic, name, and an app that showed her location. I bitched… Read more »

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I have a field report of sorts. I live next to a high school and there were two girls in front of the entrance, sitting on some steps. So I asked them how’s the class skipping going, they laugh and say that well and that they’re waiting for one of their boyfriends. I tell them that I think only the bf girl is skipping because the other girl has this adorable youthful innocence look and tell her that sometimes I wish I’d want a girl like her, but party girls ruined me. She says appearances can deceive, I tell her… Read more »

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Blax, I’m an economist and I understand how the two tiered fractional reserve banking works. The thing is that high powered money, which is what the Fed prints, is only a small fraction of the money supply. Commercial banks also create money when they issue debt and destroy it when those debts default or are paid off. It’s also a money velocity thing. But the main problem is the weak economy. Firms don’t invest, consumption is contracting so the money chasing goods, either investment or consumer, can decrease even if the money supply is expanding. There are also deflationary expectations… Read more »

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Softek: : “Any advice or words of encouragement? I’m not a lost cause and a part of me feels unrestrained about pursuing lots of women, but there’s another part of me, with all the paranoia, FI conditioning, religious conditioning, that’s telling me promiscuity is not a good thing and that it isn’t safe to do. It’s embarrassing for me to bring this stuff up but it is an issue for me and I feel like I could use some help rationalizing it. @Softek, first of all, I posted something that got caught in moderation for about five days. Seeing as… Read more »

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And of course, anytime a red pill theory thought gets thought, there is the Illimitable Man to post an expounded thought about it right before hand:

https://illimitablemen.com/2016/04/26/the-sanctity-of-time/

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“Rollo” The named nameless. The cure of each is his own. I thought I made that clear enough. However, I will attempt to start with you. I don’t have time for my own blog or book right now, so I prefer hitchhiking on yours. You wrote, “Do you or do you not think women ought to have the right to vote?” or the ever-reliable “Shouldn’t women have the right to do with their bodies what they choose?” These questions are always binary (“yes or no will do”) and usually couched in a context that implies that if you even slightly… Read more »

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That is why it only takes a mindset to make all your hurdles be low ones: From the above link: 4.) Love The Grind: Unaccomplished men have a tendency to complain about how difficult it is to improve instead of using the energy spent complaining on improving. The trick to grinding is to enjoy the grind. If a man enjoys doing something productive, it doesn’t feel like work and thus he perform better than if he looked at it as work. A man should always go into something with the idea it better completes him to do it, that in… Read more »

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@ TheOldOligarch Man, you made my night re: Velocity of money. ” The thing is that high powered money, which is what the Fed prints, is only a small fraction of the money supply. Commercial banks also create money when they issue debt and destroy it when those debts default or are paid off. It’s also a money velocity thing. But the main problem is the weak economy. Firms don’t invest, consumption is contracting so the money chasing goods, either investment or consumer, can decrease even if the money supply is expanding..” I agree with the fact that what the… Read more »

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Oh yeah, Oligarch – I forgot to mention my issue with QE. It was one of the measures that the Fed instituted that threw and kind of course correction out the window. It’s the same problem I had with the Fed interest rates being artificially held at such lows. Banks tightened up on capital, after the horse escaped the barn, but enjoyed practically free money. Again- velocity stagnated. So banks could get money at practically zero interest, and if they wanted to they could just buy treasuries. Oh, or derivatives. They Love derivatives. I get that some kind of floor… Read more »

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@Jordan Awlings, The leftover Chinese women don’t remind me of the fat slobs of the Western Dove campaign at all. These are opposite situations. How can you expect a lean, 25 year old Chinese woman to want to spend her life with a somehow both barbaric and effeminate, latent homosexual, nose-picking, one inch cock faggot of a Chinese male when she’s an international 8? I don’t blame them at all. If anything, Western males should see these Chinese women as their fellow comrades in the marriage shaming wars. Western males are the ones being shamed for not handing our lives… Read more »

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@ YaReally Also like Scray says you’re not fucking these girls, just getting good feels from them, and a lot of them are old chicks and it sounds like it’s usually at venues that you’re a regular at lol I’m not admitting to fucking them on social media, lol. Jumbotron. I’ll admit to getting good feels from dancing. Old chicks? #2 was late 50s and I danced with her at a venue that is now closed. #5 was early 30s and I’ve danced with her once before. The rest were early-mid 20s. #1&4 were cold approaches. #3 I’d danced with… Read more »

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@ SJF Really appreciate the input. It’s true, we fall in love with our problems. Identify with them. Who will I be if I don’t have these issues? etc. Right before I’ve had major breakthroughs in the past, I reached a point of tension, but equilibrium. What’s that thing where water is on the edge of a glass, and can build up to a little rim/bubble before it spills over? It’s like that kinda. Like, I wasn’t identifying with the bad stuff, but I still felt it. I just was in a state of anxiety, but not labeling that anxiety.… Read more »

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LOL.

I was just thinking that I have met up with Forge in real life on several occasions. I have no idea what his last name is or where he lives. And it is irrelevant to me. I would pay extra for the opportunity to access his intellectual knowledge. I just like him.

I for sure fucked up once on laying my shit out there to get doxxed. And YaReally drew me a good line. Thanks. (I torticed). If someone wants to doxx me for being monogomously married. Good luck with that. And fuck off.

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“But just that it doesn’t matter.” Yes it does. Everything matters. You saying that is merely a buffer. All good points, and thanks for checking me on the self-martyrdom. I do have a tendency to do that. It makes me Lol to be called out on thinking I’m a badass because that is kind of what I’m doing in my own mind. Thinking I’m cool for dealing with all this shit. You need agency. And agency doesn’t care unless you own it.Get agency and move on. In doing so, you will gain honor among men. Do not waste your time… Read more »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkvScx3Po8I On the topic of self-martyrdom, I’ve been kind of been taking the hook in this song on as my motto lately as a 180: This ain’t no place for no hero This ain’t no place for no better man This ain’t no place for no hero to call home The girl in that pic probably just found out the guy to her left was fucking some girl in another band. Just look at him. That motherfucker’s got guilt pouring out of his eyes. Either that or he’s checking her out right now and figures he’ll deal with the axe… Read more »

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@ SJF

I’m in a fog tonight. What do you mean by agency? Like mental point of origin?

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@IAS

You handled the “I fucked my dog” comment perfect. Cool. Unphased.

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“What do you mean by agency? ”

To act by one’s own volition.

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@ kfg

What do you mean by “volition”?

Just kidding, lol. Thanks for the clarification.

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@YaReally @having a bad day “you: you should have a drink her: i just turn into a slut you: that’s a bad thing? her: [laugh] tells me that your whole interaction was BB (with you chasing = she is the prize)” Thing is, this isn’t necessarily his fault with a girl that age who’s got enough baggage that’s she’s NOTICABLY weird/cold. That’s why I hate when guys go after these chicks and try to judge their game based on them lol This isn’t a HEALTHY sane cool sexual late 40s chick. This is a damage case who’s sexuality is who… Read more »

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@Culum Struan “1. You’re suggesting watching porn to normalize sex.” For a guy with baggage around sex being “wrong” and “dirty” and “shameful”, yes, definitely. A guy with that kind of baggage has had society/influences/etc build up in his mind that sex is this big scary boogeyman and he needs to be around sexual women and see sex and like, watch how much fun half the girls on Chaturbate (voluntary webcams) are having with their sexuality and meet some fun strippers who are cool about sex and think it’s normal that a guy would want to look at naked girls,… Read more »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY1H1rZL53I Crazy flailing ham-beast (seriously, you need to see the vid above): “STOP TALKING TO US LIKE CHILDREN!!” Christina Hoff Summers: “Stop acting like a child and I will.” Followed by Crowder eviscerating the SJWs in the crowd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oss7KmiHLmA “These opinions you’re yelling out? They’re not even your opinions, they’re your opinions from your gender studies professor and the only reason you picked it was because you thought it was your best chance at getting laid. You just decided to walk on in to pick up chicks at the San Francisco retread, pot smoking drum circle only to realise that… Read more »

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christ, do you guys have to turn every rollo post on the meta into a PUA chatboard? you do realise there are other places for this?

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Hey, Rollo, did you just quote Rage Against the Machine again?

“Bulls on Parade?”

“What better place than here? What better time than now?”

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> THE PUA TRANSITION PROCESS:
Man, that stuff is pure gold – the wife thing and everything. I bet a bunch of us are going through that now over and over.

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Robert Greene: “Never assume that the person you are dealing with is weaker or less important than you are.” http://www.amazon.com/48-Laws-Power-Robert-Greene/dp/0140280197/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 @NBTM, Insanitybytes, politicians, SJW’s, Cypher(s), etc. To some people the notion of consciously playing power games—no matter how indirect—seems evil, asocial, a relic of the past. They believe they can opt out of the game by behaving in ways that have nothing to do with power. You must beware of such people, for while they express such opinions outwardly, they are often among the most adept players at power. They utilize strategies that cleverly disguise the nature of the manipulation… Read more »

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Shoe on head? Really? Your kidding right? If there was an EMP today,we would find Karen out in the back yard stirring up dog shit and giggling while watching the flies. This is the same respect she shows for humanity and the full extent of her knowledge and skillset. If Big Brother or ah Big Sister had a shill to help categorize the thoughts of humanity this Karen is what it would look like. The fact that she has many followers speaks volumes on the current condition of the matrix. If she brings anything at all to the dinner table… Read more »

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“Instead we have a society encouraging women to do as little as possible, to eat shitty food, to drink their faces off, to embrace all their baggage and damage instead of trying to fix it or get past it, to pop pills to deal with everyday life, and we CELEBRATE them for it.” @Jordan Awlings, @YaReally, @scribblerg “A cosmetics company is capitalizing on this – check this video here:” Yeah… That video PERFECTLY illustrates the point I’m trying to make. A COSMETICS COMPANY. This is why we’re never going to see commercials disparaging women. Women DOMINATE consumerism. They always will.… Read more »

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@asdgamer

It’s okay dude..

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“christ, do you guys have to turn every rollo post on the meta into a PUA chatboard? you do realise there are other places for this?”

yareally the main contributor to this, not sure how many times that ‘tyler picks up alpha female’ clip has been posted in threads lol

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@ Rollo

Heads are gonna roll. Literally.

One reason we have ‘ terror ‘ is the visceral response to having Islamic culture forcibly westernized.

They don’t hate freedom…lol, they don’t want our freedoms.

The violence and brutality will prove unsustainable in the long run though. Successive generations will come into the fold ( Borg ) eventually. Can’t bomb/burn/behead indefinitely.

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“Can’t bomb/burn/behead indefinitely.”

And so it comes in waves. The Spartans defeat the Athenians, and then themselves. The Romans defeat the Greeks, and then themselves. The Germanics defeat nearly all of Europe, and then . . .

The tricky bit is surviving if you happen to find yourself riding the crest of the wave as it is about to break. The beheading doesn’t have to last indefinitely to behead you.

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Btw, lol at the PUA shade😁

If it really bothers anyone, by all means post comments about the OP after scrolling past. No. Harm, no foul.

Personally I don’t find it particularly invasive. The number of comments are declining overall so I encourage everyone to put their 2 cents into the fray.

Now, enjoy this Tyler video…….. 😂

Lmao

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@ kfg

I’m adverse to intervening in others cultures unless it poses a direct threat ( see: North Korea ).

The Roman Empire is a wonderful cautionary tale. The Crusades are another.

I plan on keeping my head, literally and figuratively.

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@blogster @Bromeo
Feel free to contribute something besides your whining, I’m sure we’d all love to read it. smile

Here’s a Tyler video on being a parasite who leeches value from others, you’ll no doubt find it enlightening:

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@Sentient Did you qualify the girls first or was it an opportunity grabfest? @YaReally Even at my regular bar, I typically do 15-20 cold approaches per night. And I do my std “build social proof” routine at my regular bar. There are a lot of irregulars at my regular bar. LMR was always a problem for me. My friends had a rhyme about me: “He smoke ’em and stroke ’em, but no poke ’em.” lol I understand women a lot more than I ever did as a 15 yo kid. Get women chasing and LMR will go way down. That… Read more »

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“I can’t even count the number of monogamous married guys who get drunk and tell me “whatever you do, don’t get married, trust me, just keep doing what you’re doing” and are fucking miserable even if they put on a happy face when they have other company over.” makes sense. marriage means monogamy for the woman. not the man. if your wife doesn’t constantly screen other hotties for threesome potential, you fucked up. if your wife doesn’t tell you she loves seeing you fuck another hottie’s brains out, you fucked up. if you don’t play, “would you fuck her?” with… Read more »

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@Blax, check this out:

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“I don’t know about you guys, but when I was in high school fantasizing about the girls in my yearbook, I was fantasizing about taking them on romantic cuddle dates and holding hands and watching movies together, not picturing bending them over and railing them up the ass and throatfucking them while I call them a dirty little whore, ’cause I was a Nice Guy” this is why pua guys talking shit about naturals comes off as butthurt. sure, many naturals lose their edge/drive, choose poorly and end up divorce raped, unhappy, etc. but many don’t as their brains were… Read more »

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@ newly I always say that men need a red pill for all aspects of life. White knighting for any institution or cause blindly because of some manner of social conditioning or pressure is a ludicrous way to wander through life. For a decade I’ve asked people, randomly about the Fed and the ignorance is staggering. Yet everyone is familiar with. Muh Moneez. Lol. But hey, the beta answer is ” you got a better plan? “. My plan is knowledge. After that shit works itself out. Cartels indeed. But, there’s a sale with special interest rates for qualified buyers.… Read more »

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Fleezer… I don’t know of any PUA guys “talking shit” about naturals… it’s more the naturals subject themselves to PUA guys pointing out obvious things to them when naturals try and disprove PUA… “just fucking fuck her bro”… Seduction is a language, a female language. Naturals are guys who figured out a few phrases, who can get around town, order food, find a bathroom… PUA is the doctoral program in language, full immersion with a focus on grammar, syntax, culture and dialects… “the smart ones add the good pua stuff on top and become the experienced, confident, amoral machs women… Read more »

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You watch how horses interact. They be much about caring about their social position. They got horse friends and horse enemies. The stallion desires exclusive sexual access and will fight for that. Horses will respect competence wrt to herd “frame” (often it is a mare the provides a good deal of competence) Now you give some feed, and some other comforts, in a controlled way, and then poof …….the horses will begin to acquiesce to the over-order …. the horsemen (the facet of human culture, with associated narrative, that makes horse domestication possible), and will do the bidding of those… Read more »

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When required by circumstance, submit by word and possibly action, but NEVER in mind and spirit

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@oligarch @blaximus Its over 2 trillion dollars of assets that were purchased by the Fed.. not exactly printing money.. more like a secured loans to those actors that had liquidity problems. When the Fed calls those in folks had to buy those assets back. (gimme your bad debt and i’ll give you cash to invest but you gotta buy this shit back from me a little bit later.) A good example is the GM bailout (net positive in saving huge swaths of the US industrial economy even though it was fucking pilloried by the Obama haters at the time including… Read more »

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@fleezer
“this is why pua guys talking shit about naturals comes off as butthurt.”

Why would we talk shit about naturals? We love naturals. Are you the type of delicate flower that takes pointing out logical observable obvious flaws and blindspots as “talking shit” because you want to believe naturals are infallable (which would be a very Natural thing to do lol)?

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I lol’d at the winning in that article.

Strong Indendant types, huh?

Feminism still has so much more to accomplish…..

Bwaaaaàhaaaaaa haaaaaa haaa haaaaa ha ha haahaaa haaaaaa!!!!!!!

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…. The ” whining in that article ..”.

Crazy ass spellcheck.😬

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Haven’t been able to keep up here, just scanning for replies/questions for me, sorry if I’m missing something… Looks like Rollo took down the post YaReally was talking about. Lol, fine by me, got great feedback already and some of the key bits are preserved in replies for future lurkers. I’m a bit less rigorous than YaReally when it comes to anonymity. Figuring out my city won’t get ya too close to doxxing me. Still, better safe than sorry I guess. It’s pretty funny that I can describe a freaking menu item and have that be an issue. Welcome to… Read more »

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