Solipsism I

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“Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Women are often left with the responsibility, alone, of raising the children.” – Hillary Clinton

I had planned on using Hillary’s now infamous quote for an upcoming post outlining the distinction between women’s innate solipsism and an acculturated narcissism, but fate delivered me a much more profound use for this quote last week (we’ll get to that in part II).

Before I dig in here I feel it’s kind of incumbent upon me to point out that I in no way align with, nor endorse Hillary’s political or ideological perspectives, and I think it should go without saying that I diametrically disagree with her feminine-primary social agendas.

That said, if you ever need a better quote to explain the realities of feminine solipsism I think I’d be at a loss to give you one. A lot of men, even Red Pill aware men, have a hard time understanding how solipsism fits concretely into the feminine psyche. The social conditioning and upbringing that predisposes us towards an egalitarian equalist mindset rebels against thinking women and men would have different psychological firmware. Equalism teaches us to expect that men and women’s needs share mutual origins and our impulses are so similar that any difference is insignificant.

That egalitarian frame predisposes us to consider that ‘not all women are like that‘ or to disassociate the idea that men and women could be anything but functionally equal agents. As a result we get convenient distractions to confuse our looking for comparatives to should anyone (or thing) challenge an equalist answer.

Simply put, we get rationales like “Oh well, men do it too”, or worse, or any opposite comparison that leads us away from considering the truth that men and women are psychologically, biologically and sociologically different; with different motives and different strategies which they employ to meet their different imperatives. And often these imperatives are at odds with the best interests of the other sex.

Separating Differences

The Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies:
For one gender’s sexual strategy to succeed the other gender must compromise or abandon their own.

It is the fundamental differences in either sex’s imperatives, acculturation and biology that creates this conflict. Of course, men and women have come together for each other’s mutual benefit (and love, and enjoyment) to create families and sustain our race for millennia, however, this mutually beneficial union does not originate from mutual imperatives or sexual strategies.

When I explain how women hold an opportunistic concept of love, while men hold an idealistic one, the resistance to accept that observable, behavioral, reality is rooted in a blank-slate belief that men and women are fundamentally the same. So, when we read a statement from a woman (to say nothing of a high status one) such as Hillary’s, we either scoff at the oblivious audacity of it because it is so counter to our (male) imperative’s interests, or we nod in ascension in the feminized belief that what best serves the female imperative necessarily is the best interest of the male imperative.

This is an illustration of the fundamental difference in the interpretation of experience between the sexes.

From a solipsistically oblivious female perspective what Hillary is expounding on here is entirely true. From a perspective that prioritizes feminine Hypergamy above all else, these three sentences make perfect, pragmatic sense. The idea that men losing their lives in warfare would make them victims at all (much less the primary victims) isn’t even an afterthought; all that matters is the long term security and continued provisioning of women and their imperatives.

Solipsism, not Narcissism

A lot of newly Red Pill aware men get confused at my using the term ‘solipsism‘ when I refer to this female-specific obliviousness to any concern – or lesser prioritized concern – of anything outside their immediate existential needs. The confusion comes from men who want for a similar justice to the one I outlined in Our Sister’s Keeper. Self-importance or narcissism would seem to be a more appropriate term for this dynamic, but I disagree.

Female solipsism in and of itself is not necessarily a net negative in the larger scope of human survival and evolution. On the surface that may seem a bit outrageous, but it’s only outrageous insofar as women’s solipsistic natures come into conflict with the biological and social imperatives of men. This solipsism is the necessary result of a feminine survival instinct that’s helped preserve women and their offspring in a violent, chaotic and uncertain evolution.

Recognizing the importance of feminine solipsism is not an endorsement of the anti-social, and often cruel, byproducts of it.

No doubt, men who’ve been on the sharp end of this will grind their teeth at the inevitable narcissism that becomes an extension of women’s solipsism. I’ll agree. Socially we’re living in an era of unprecedented (western) narcissism manifested in a vast majority of women.

At no other time in history have women become more accustomed to perceived entitlements of personal security, ubiquitous social control and relative assurances of optimizing Hypergamous imperatives. At no other time have women’s sexual strategies been of such primary importance to society. However, this narcissism is the result of an acculturation and learned social priorities that predispose women to expectations that border on arrogance. Over recent generations that narcissism has become learned and fostered in women to the point that narcissism is openly embraced as a feminine strength – women believe it’s their due after a long suffrage.

Women’s solipsistic nature however is an integral part of their evolved psychological firmware. Solipsism is the evolved, selected-for result of self-preservation necessities that ensured the survival of our species. As men we get frustrated by this intrinsic nature; a nature that puts women’s imperatives as their primary mental point of origin. As any newly aware Red Pill man will attest, coming to this realization is a very hard truth to accept. It’s cruel and contrary to what the First Set of Books have taught him he should expect and build his life around.

Furthermore, it’s cruel in the respect that this solipsism neither aligns with the romantic, Blue Pill hopes he’s been raised to accept, but also the egalitarian, equal and level playing field ideology he’s been conditioned to believe he should alter his priorities to accommodate for women; and in turn he can expect from women. As I stated earlier, coming to terms with men and women’s differing concepts of love is a tough disillusionment, but this difference in concept is simply one of many a man must come to terms with.

When I wrote Empathy I got taken to task about women’s capacity to feel empathy to a greater degree than do men. It’s not that women cannot feel empathically (a shared experience), my argument was that the idea that women feel a ‘greater’ empathy than men was a social convention with the latent purpose of masking women’s innate solipsism.

That wasn’t a very popular idea. The notion that women are the mothers and nurturers was predictably spelled out, but with regards to empathizing and caring for men the primary concern of women was worry over their own and their children’s well being before that of their men should they become incapacitated. Again, this is a cruel truth, but also a pragmatic and survival based one.

Mental Point of Origin

Women’s mental point of origin begins with their own self-importance, and the overriding importance of their own and their offspring’s survival. I’ve had women readers lambast me that they couldn’t possibly be so influenced by solipsism because they put their children’s wellbeing before their own. However it is just this solipsism that predisposes women to seeing their children as extensions of themselves and their own identities. And the good news is that this dynamic is one reason the human species has been so successful.

The following was a comment from Starve the Beast on the TRP subredd:

Women are bad at reasoning, but good at rationalization.

Let that sink in for a minute. One cannot rationalize without the faculty for reason. So are women really bad at reasoning? No, actually they’re great at it.

The difference is that women don’t place as much value on Truth as they do upon self-preservation, and therefore their reasoning processes do not abort when self-contradiction is reached. They’ll just rationalize their way out of that too, if exposed.

Ultimately, the so-called hamster reflects an underlying difference in value systems more than in reasoning ability.

Women can learn to sublimate their solipsism. In fact, cultures and progressive societies have been founded on sublimating female solipsism. Women can and do learn critical thinking quite regularly. Women can learn and function within a society that forces them to compromise their sexual strategies and mitigates the worst abuses that solipsism would visit on men (and themselves). Women can learn to be empathetic towards men as well as live within a social order that looks like mutual justice and fairness.

But the fact that these civil dynamics should need to be something a woman learns only reinforces the biological and evolved influences of female solipsism as women’s mental point of origin. The parallel to this is men’s learning to sublimate intrinsic parts of themselves – primarily their sexuality – to reinforce prosocial interaction in society. 

Women dislike the idea that their experience is colored by solipsism. It sounds bad, and it runs counter to what they believe are sacrifices on their own part to help others. That may be so, and I’m certainly not going to attempt to discount those investments, but they come from a learned compassion that must overcome an innate solipsism. That ‘me and my babies first’ mental point of origin isn’t necessarily a bad thing either – it’s only when that learned compassion and humility are superseded by it that anti-social behaviors and hubris arise.

I expect the predictable criticism will be that men are also self-important, and / or all humans are intrinsically selfish fucks. In part II I’ll elaborate more on this, but for now it’s important to grasp that female solipsistic nature is less about selfish individualism and more about pragmatic survival.

Many a male reader of my Hierarchies of Love series grated against the idea that a conventional model of love would progress from Men to women, women to children, children to puppies, etc. That model is a direct reflection of a uniquely female solipsism that seemingly discards men’s reciprocal emotional investment in women. However it is also the same dynamic that predisposes women to desire men who can decisively control their environment as well as dominate them sexually and emotionally.

In part II I’ll outline more examples of feminine solipsism, how it’s reflected on the individual and societal level and how a man might best use an understanding of it to his advantage.

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Liz
Liz
7 years ago

““Happened to meeeee…”

I’m not sure how to share a personal anecdote without refering to “me”. I suppose I could have used the royal “we” instead, like I have some mouse in my pocket.

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

“We’re” not sure your personal anecdote advances the narrative.

Liz
Liz
7 years ago

My response wasn’t to you, longgone. Unless you are posting as two people?

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

@NBTM: “It is possible that our species were far more cooperative than competitive during prehistoric times.” Circa 15% of prehistoric deaths were due to violent homicide. Those are just the homicides that leave an identifiable trace in ancient remains. Socrates was executed, but his remains wouldn’t bear a trace of it. Ostracization is a common penalty for major transgressors in “primitive” societies. In pre-civilization societies it is generally considered a death sentence as few survive it for long, but it leaves no evidence of being by human cause. And that’s just the degree of competitiveness that results in a fatality.… Read more »

jsr
jsr
7 years ago

@yareally

Why try to help a confirmed slut and cheater ensnare a good guy? Better to let her suffer her foolishness then send the guy proof of cheating with some solid red pill material. Lets help these guys, not feed the lies and ruin their lives. Who here would support marrying a cheating slut?

Shiva
Shiva
7 years ago

@ Melbournite Maybe James might want people to just get in and see what he has to offer. I would be concerned if he goes not bragging about it all the time. It is a lie but does not discredit his points, because his points stand on their own merit. Marketing is one field where people indulge in despicable amount of lies, loud mouthing and controversies . For eg , Allegedly, Christian Bale attacked his mother and sister before release of dark knight. Why do all of celebrities have to be in such controversies just prior to release of their… Read more »

Liz
Liz
7 years ago

““We’re” not sure your personal anecdote advances the narrative.” My sons do not have disabilities, but I’ve always appreciated words of encouragement and personal accounts I’ve received online, when I’ve brought up a problem (example attempts to force my kids into testing and medication for ADHD, problems with gender discrimination in the classroom and so forth). I’ve written personal letters to teenaged girls who were social outcasts, as I was, to offer encouragement and it has always been well received. If you are the same person posting as two individuals I see no need for the level of hostility here.… Read more »

Liz
Liz
7 years ago

Shiva:
Wow. Okay.

Shiva
Shiva
7 years ago

“@jsr @yareally Why try to help a confirmed slut and cheater ensnare a good guy? Better to let her suffer her foolishness then send the guy proof of cheating with some solid red pill material. Lets help these guys, not feed the lies and ruin their lives. Who here would support marrying a cheating slut?” I would agree to this. This female is either your or some one else’s alpha widow. What is the chance that this man will out alpha you for her? You may not sympathize for the chump you are pushing her towards, at least think about… Read more »

Shiva
Shiva
7 years ago

Hypergamy and Solipsism to a women is as inherent and natural as boner is to men.

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

“My sons do not have disabilities, but I’ve always appreciated words of encouragement and personal accounts I’ve received online, when I’ve brought up a problem (example attempts to force my kids into testing and medication for ADHD, problems with gender discrimination in the classroom and so forth). I’ve written personal letters to teenaged girls who were social outcasts, as I was, to offer encouragement and it has always been well received. If you are the same person posting as two individuals I see no need for the level of hostility here.” You’re a case study of the post’s topic as… Read more »

ChocDoc
ChocDoc
7 years ago

@ Longgone:

Yes, it’s really striking, isn’t? Lol

ChocDoc
ChocDoc
7 years ago

Me, me, me……I, I , I

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

Choc,

Yeah, actually 8 times in 8 lines, and oblivious to what she’s doing. But let’s let it drop or she might feel the need to offer her “affirmation” again. (I don’t need to hear any more of her soccer mom shit or Ready for Hillary schtick.)

Anon
Anon
7 years ago

White knight loses his life saving damsel in distress while armed specialized personel was 10 feet away.

ChocDoc
ChocDoc
7 years ago

One more dead man.
And for what he has died? For nothing !!!!

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

I took YaReally’s anecdote as perfectly performed boyfriend destroyer routine. It really was a two pointnarrative and he followed up on the second point well. He’s out for her best interests and his (YaReally’s) best interests as a fuckbuddy. He doesn’t know the boyfriend and is indifferent to him. And he gets to have his cake (pussy) and eat it too. I say well done. I really enjoyed James Marshall’s talk. It was totally congruent and he consolidating his talk with the message of celebrating feminine creatures as a resource. When feminine creatures are good they are really good. The… Read more »

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

The Illimitable Man just posted an incredibly cogent essay yesterday on Solipsism in women that complements Rollo’s essay.

Rollo posits well the biological and evolutionary forces generating solipsism in women, but the Illimitable Man comes at it from a psychological construct per se.

I find both essays practical implications for game a linchpin in any relationship with a woman.

SJF
SJF
7 years ago

…essays’…

Still working on that edit level permission code from Rollo.

YaReally
YaReally
7 years ago

@Melbournite I haven’t looked at any of that but none of it would surprise me. His advice and vibe/game in the vids I linked is solid and worth listening to and learning from though. I go by the Bruce Lee method: “Absorb what is useful, discard what is not.” I don’t think anyone should aspire to follow a PUA instructor’s full lifestyle in general lol A lot of them end up pretty fucked up (because their entire livelihood is based on being a PUA and that doesn’t hold up so well past 35-40, hi Roosh!) or have lifestyles that are… Read more »

Kid Jupiter
Kid Jupiter
7 years ago
Reply to  YaReally

@YaReally I enjoy reading your comments and I’ve read a bunch of your archived comments on your website; they’re very informative and well thought out and I’ve gained a lot of insight from your perspectives. However, I’m just catching up on this comment thread now since I’ve been very busy this past week, post-Labor Day. I’m finding the way you’re rationalizing your interaction with / advice to your ‘former FB’ to be quite interesting. It’s worthy of a “Golden Hamster Wheel,” although I don’t want to insult you by comparing your rationalization mechanism to the female mind hamster. Can’t think… Read more »

Liz
Liz
7 years ago

“You’re a case study of the post’s topic as you can’t help but turn an account of a man’s tragedy into a forum to discuss you and your personal victimhood. 7 “my” or “I” in eight lines above. Run along, men are talking.”

What on earth are you talking about? It is a personal tragedy and that was an offer of encouragement with a personal anecdote. He’s right. She will end up on top. There are a thousand personal anecdotes in this forum.

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

YaReally, Thanks for another installment! Your comments, with Rollo’s posts, as well as a couple other dudes here (glenn), are the most helpful information regarding women I’ve ever received. OT I need some advice re: text game. At first I kept to the 3:2 rule of incoming vs. outgoing w/this twenty-something I’m getting with. However, because she plays it so well ….long delays w/no answer, “accidently” sending me someone else’s text, etc. I decided to behave so as to have her believe she’s hooked me and text more frequently as in 1:1, which predictably closed her down. Mistake? I’m just… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
7 years ago

@longgone Happy to have helped. 1) don’t shit where you eat lol 2) don’t ask if she’s lost/broke her phone, that shows that you care too much about her texting you and even NOTICED she didn’t text you. The mentality you want is that you have 12 playboy models at home trying to all suck your dick and it’s a RELIEF that she isn’t texting you so you can fuck all these other girls so you don’t even notice she isn’t texting. 3) have you fucked her yet? If you haven’t, quit being her text buddy…get her out somewhere and… Read more »

Liz
Liz
7 years ago

“Me, me, me……I, I , I”

Excuse us, We, we, we….us, us, us

-Equality 7-2521

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

YaReally, Thanks I needed that. RE: 1-I don’t exactly eat there but I shop there lol. 2-Good I hadn’t realized that and thought the lost/broke thing was funny….which it’s not. 3-No and I’m trying to figure out whether she’s wanting a sugar-daddy, is a pro, or is just BPD. Approached her Monday and took her out for a date that evening. She’s very affectionate on our first date and I don’t really care which of the three possibilities exist or all three….it’s just a fuck. 4- It’s her work…the grocery store not mine, so no worries about my career, or… Read more »

YaReally
YaReally
7 years ago

@longgone “Approached her Monday and took her out for a date that evening. She’s very affectionate on our first date” No sex that night? Why not? You didn’t want to? You tried and she didn’t allow it? She wanted to but held herself back? She didn’t want to? You two did a bunch of heavy making out but for whatever reason didn’t go all the way and now she has Buyer’s Remorse about acting slutty and is embarrased to text you? Lots of info to take from how the date went. My first guess based on the bits of info… Read more »

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

YaReally, Very weird first date, in that I waited at the bar/restaurant for about twenty minutes after were to meet, was figuring she flaked, when she shows up, dressed quite hot, (barely-there shorts, tight top…) with some older woman who had walked over with her. She apologizes for the other woman being there, admitting that she was worried about meeting some (much) older guy, didn’t have to walk back (bad neighborhood) alone, etc. all very plausible. Anyway I end up feeding, entertaining them both and closing up the place. Most of the kino/ making out, etc. was when most, if… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
7 years ago

Unsolicited advice: Whoa. Just a chick. Sun won’t rise in the west tomorrow, so anything isn’t possible.

…just sayin’

Not Born This Morning
7 years ago

@kfg “Circa 15% of prehistoric deaths were due to violent homicide. Those are just the homicides that leave an identifiable trace in ancient remains. Socrates was executed, but his remains wouldn’t bear a trace of it.” The one thing I do not like about blog is the fact that absolutist generalizations and dogmatic claims cannot be moderated. It is an open forum and I have expounded my share of it as anyone has. But this is what we get with an open forum. All healthy gardens grow some weeds. There is absolutely now way we can collect enough verifiable evidence… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
7 years ago

@ NBTM, C’mon now. We are now at the pinnacle of human existence. It’s undeniable. 126,482 years ago men used yellow quartz to sharpen ash branches into spears. Men who couldn’t find yellow quartz leapt from the highest available point to their deaths, Millions died ( millions I say ..). Today, we have more yellow quartz than at any time in recorded history. Okay, I jest, but I agree with _ ” The facts we do know about more aboriginal cultures that still exist is that they are far more peaceful and their members are much more cooperative and sharing… Read more »

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

Blaximus,
You’ve got me there, and fortunately nobody home at the store tonight, so no chance for me to be a total (but spontaneous!) asshole. Thanks I appreciate it unsolicted or not….

YaReally,
Totally dark for now, but it was fun while it lasted. Thanks yet again for the advice.

Blaximus
Blaximus
7 years ago

@Longgone,

I stuck my beak in the convo. Sometimes, I can’t help myself.

I just tend to pipe up when I hear a fellow man ascribing too many positives on a female he’s trying to date. She’s just a chick in the end. Play with her as a learning tool, but be sure to fuck her when the time is correct and make absolutely no promises at all.

Pursue many. As many as is feasible. Bed them all ( if you wish ) or as many as is feasible. Stay in your frame at all times, with everybody.

insanitybytes22
7 years ago

“What on earth are you talking about? It is a personal tragedy and that was an offer of encouragement with a personal anecdote.” Liz, Liz, Liz, thou shall not wreck the manospherian narrative and mess with the menzs heads. Your role is not empathy or reason, your role is solipsism and hypergamy. To attempt anything else is to screw with the world view they are trying so desperately to cultivate. Any expressions of empathy or compassion will be met with nothing but hostility because most of these wounded fools are trying to harden their hearts and destroy their protective natures,… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 years ago

Today, we have more yellow quartz than at any time in recorded history.

I think this would make a great Cafe Press shirt motto.

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

Blaximus,

“Play with her as a learning tool, but be sure to fuck her when the time is correct and make absolutely no promises at all.”

This is exactly how I regard her, and is exactly my plan. I’m under no illusions about her “positives”, except I know she’s still got a snapper. It is surprising though how the encounter has given me the confidence to scheme about making sure a couple other potential/partial plates are still spinning….however slow-motion.

Thanks brother. It’s a pleasure speaking with you.

kobayashii1681
7 years ago

@Sun: “Make sure all engagements with IB are done to elicit a reaction demonstrating a concept. Don’t take her responses seriously. Lab rats are not pets.”

Here, here!

Blaximus
Blaximus
7 years ago

@ IrritableBowel22

You’re always lurking around huh? That’s cute. How much time do you spend here in the comments? How many hours?

I never know when you’re gonna pop in. Like the flu.
…was that too wounded foolish of me? I get like that when I’m desperately trying to cultivate a world view. Bad habit.

And, for the record,

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXfmfj4z3Zc?feature=player_detailpage&w=640&h=360%5D

insanitybytes22
7 years ago

“Here, here!”

Sigh. That would be “hear, hear,” dearest brother.

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

” . . . absolutist generalizations . . . .” An oxymoron. I included a weasel word and mentioned that there are forms of homicide that do not leave evidence, and so are in the mist. “There is absolutely now way we can collect enough verifiable evidence to claim a murder rate during prehistoric times. ” I said nothing of murder. Ball games have been known to involve homicide, but they were not murder. I’ve actually played ball in the Monte Alban ball court while examining a dig there. Interesting experience. ” . . . the first or second link… Read more »

redlight
redlight
7 years ago

@longgone

“Anyway I end up feeding, entertaining them both and closing up the place”

If I’ve read this correctly, you ended up paying for the meals, and perhaps the drinks, for both the chick and her older woman friend?

Switching subjects, on married life, I figured out dread and some of other stuff on my own, but before this site I couldn’t figure out why she wouldn’t make me soup (or anything) when I was sick.

@IB “If you want to cheer them up immensely” leave

Blaximus
Blaximus
7 years ago

@ kfg, The sphinx has been re-aged during my lifetime, from 4,500 years old, to 10,000 years old….by archaeologists and a few geologists. Empirical evidence, it seems, is subject to change. Same as it ever was. ” Traditionally it has been held that a written literature was also a necessary feature of civilization, but I have never been comfortable with the idea of throwing obviously high cultures such as the Kelts out of the civilization bus.” The ” traditional ” part makes me uncomfortable. Who’s tradition? So, can it be said that a lack of spoons denotes a lack of… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

“The ” traditional ” part makes me uncomfortable. Who’s tradition? ”

The tradition of those who coined and defined the word to raise the history of their own civilization on a pedestal, of course.

Not Born This Morning
7 years ago

@kfg

The best we can do is speculate the possibilities as I have done and this does

http://www.ncas.rutgers.edu/sites/fasn/files/The%20Prehistory%20of%20War%20and%20Peace%20in%20Europe%20and%20the%20Near%20East%20(2013)_0.pdf

The worst we can do is make dogmatic absolutist claims, then preform convoluted senseless mental and verbal contortions and distortions in a futile effort to defend them as you have done.

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

“The best we can do is speculate the possibilities . . .”

I agree completely.

YaReally
YaReally
7 years ago

@longgone lol shit okay you’re in sugar-daddy territory. You’re chasing her and showering her with your money and entertainment while she does nothing but make things difficult (bringing a chaperone who doesn’t fuck off which means she had zero intention of fucking you that night which means she was planning to slow-track you from the start which is sugar daddy territory, now playing text games etc). Shit should be reversed, she should be chasing you. She’s not ’cause she doesn’t perceive you as high enough value to chase. She knows you’ll put up with her chaperone cockblocking and not putting… Read more »

kobayashii1681
7 years ago

@fleezer: “That’s what’s weird about women. Many men are disgusted at the thought of sloppy seconds where women will literally suck some other woman’s juices off their man’s cock without a moment’s hesitation. I love women.” Hahaha! Me too brother….me too! My boy just came over today and introduced a chic friend of his to me, the girl interjects with, “I’m his girlfriend….even though he’s introduced many others to you….(blah)(blah)..I don’t believe in competition, I like cooperation.” I almost high-fived her…gave my boy a pat on the back instead. Women will submit and come to terms with other women, if… Read more »

Blaximus
Blaximus
7 years ago

@ redlight, 1st Marriage: Suffered medical problems. Medications were worse than the actual ailment. Took 2 months to recover fully. Wife was onboard for approximately 2 weeks of ” helping ” me. She eventually trailed off more and more until I couldn’t even get a glass of water from her. Lesson learned. 2nd Marriage: Herniated disc. I couldn’t stand up straight for close to 6 months. I was scared shitless of back surgery, so I rode it out with muscle relaxers, ibuprofen and pain killers, and an ass-load of therapy/stretching. I got up and hobbled my ass out of the… Read more »

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

redlight, You heard me right. There were several possibilities about the old hag: mom (unlikely), pimp (remote), or friend of the chick and her parents as she claimed. In any case, she didn’t drink (red flag), turned out to be a little physically lame (negated the red flag) and the neighborhood restaurant isn’t exactly upscale, so no big investment on treating her nice. As the evening progressed, she revealed herself to be barely removed from homeless and really was more conversational than the chick, who however made up for it though with her particular talents. I must admit I had… Read more »

Not Born This Morning
7 years ago

Sphinx dated 4000 – 10,000…..uhmmm

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/pyramid/explore/howold2.html

Unfortunately, the Internet, media, book industry, intertainment industry, “news”, etc., etc., etc., all provide a medium for the production of a plethora of lies, hoaxes and honest mistakes to to be painted upon the canvass of our ignorant and creative minds. Many so called “studies”, “discoveries” and claims rank with alien abductions, the lost city of Atlantis, big foot, The Loch Ness monster, UFOs, ancient aliens, illuminati, black magic, witchcraft, ougie boards, fortune tellers, religion and superstition.

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

YaReally “That’s not an alternative at all lol That’s just rewarding her shitty behavior which will encourage more of it,….” Solid gold man and thanks a million! As I said above the second option is a moot point as she wasn’t working tonight and no chance to debase myself further lol. The DHV in-field is definitely the way to go and I’m scheming on it. FWIW I recognized the need for same and pulled away from her and her minder and circulated around the place chatting up the patrons who I knew from past visits. No big investment yet bro….one… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
7 years ago

@Longgone – You might need to do some shock therapy with this young one. Remember, she lives in a world where men kiss her ass. Assuming she has any genuine interest in you, what you need to do is be different from the young guys. A few tips: 1. Send here a 1 word text. “Flake”. When she responds (which she will) tell her you don’t put up with people flaking on you. And then shut up. Even if she goes away for a week or two, she may come back but will do so with more respect. 2. Tell… Read more »

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
7 years ago

@longgone

Seduce the old women ,
Seduce the young one.
AND: see the Ps.

Ps,

Ménage à trois

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
7 years ago

Grandma Insanity and Liz and me.

Can you imagine the rivalry (for the sake of cougar/lesser cougar solipsism) .

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
7 years ago

@longgone.

I once blew it with sisters! One older and one younger. (I was too drunk).
Never Again. (play a good game and you can fuck both).

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

scribblerg, Thanks for your analysis. You nail it as expected. 1.”Send her a 1 word text. “Flake”. When she responds (which she will) tell her you don’t put up with people flaking on you. And then shut up. Even if she goes away for a week or two, she may come back but will do so with more respect. ” Spot on. I was only looking for text game advice and this is where I want to go.This will happen as soon as there is either another text from her or a sufficiently long interval w/o one. 2. “Tell her… Read more »

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
7 years ago

@longgon Naiive.

My, My.
A woman brings her friend on her date with you lol and you’re STILL lol looking for strategy how to make her fuck you lol (?)(!).

Loltard

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
7 years ago

@longgone.
Those two women are LAUGHING at you as we speak.

Ps
Sorry Mister.

Jeremy
Jeremy
7 years ago

It’s kind of odd to read the trolls here from a distant perspective, because on the one hand it could just be normal internet trolling by people who don’t like or agree with what is discussed here. On the other, it perfectly fits with:

http://therationalmale.com/2012/08/22/just-get-it/
http://therationalmale.com/2015/04/14/managing-expectations/

Too much exposure to red pill male perspective is likely to be infuriating for any woman who can’t handle the truth of her own existence.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
7 years ago

“Shopping or some cash, whatever. I’d go right into it,”

Whaaaat?
And this is an advice from a natural Alpha ?

Natural alpha spending money to get laid ?

Liz
Liz
7 years ago

“Too much exposure to red pill male perspective is likely to be infuriating for any woman who can’t handle the truth of her own existence.”

I didn’t see anything in those links about the intellectually rigorous pronoun solipsism test. Apparently it pings at 8 uses of I, me, and or my in eight sentences. I learned that from the guy who used 13 in 12 sentences.

ChocDoc
ChocDoc
7 years ago

@ Longgone: I would not try anything with that broad any longer, If a woman brings another strange broad with her on a date, it is a clear sign that she has not really an interest in you and that she will not give you the pussy. That’s the reason why she has brought the cockblocker girl with her 😉 So why are you still trying to game that broad? Stop it and go hunting other girls, who are more willing to give the pussy. Just see it as a practise session. Sugar daddys are the most stupid on earth.… Read more »

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

Choc, Slept on it and came to the same conclusion. Going to a club tonight where a buddy of mine is the music. We go a long way back, got frivorced after his heart attack, and is evidently now a man in demand. I’ll see what that venue has to offer. keyser “Those two women are LAUGHING at you as we speak.” So what? I’m laughing too. Won’t be the last time I fuck up. Baby steps. I’m comfortable w/approaching, but have work to do elsewhere. You’re such a help and I’m sure you’ll be swappin spit with 20-somethings at… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

From the linked article: “Then came proper warfare, with real weapons and real warriors,” he says. “But it’s disturbing and shocking that violence was also evident in Neolithic times.” Walk outside and stand on the grass somewhere. Now look around. Although it may escape your notice violence is all around you, including above and below. Trillions are fighting and dying, many of them beneath your very feet. Even the plants are using violence, both defensively and aggressively. There are pine forests and there are oak forests, but there are no mature mixed pine and oak forests. There can only be… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

Footnote:

It was well understood for thousands of years that pines and oaks invaded and took over each other’s territories, but was Thoreau who first discovered the mechanism by which it took place. Nobody had noticed the key role played by the Flying Monkeys.

scribblerg
scribblerg
7 years ago

@ChocDoc – There are many levels of sugardaddying. I don’t do it currently but had a young one who liked me to take her shopping and “help” here and there a couple of years ago. I do agree that a formal sugar daddy thing, like paying her rent or an allowance or whatever is ridiculous. But what it is in reality is straight up provisioning for sex, just like most of you married guys are doing, lol. And at least there you are getting to bang a young hottie. Fyi, the sex with that girl Allison was quite enthusiastic and… Read more »

ChocDoc
ChocDoc
7 years ago

@ scribblerg:

I really like to read how much efforts you make to build the new scribblerg.
Mental point of orgin is now you and only you.

Keep on working and take the best things you can get.

ChocDoc
ChocDoc
7 years ago

By the way…iam not married. Iam not crazy…lol

wacokid
7 years ago

Recent success.. just started reading due to my son, to my joy, ending his engagement to his hypo g fiance. I am 50+ married to same women so you can figure out my life..anyway after a week of getting introduced to this site I was in an arguement with my wife and I said “you are not going to enter my frame” she said what is that? I said I wasn’t sure but just f ing don’t do it…anyway last night she came to bed in an outfit she had bought that day..firsttime she has done that,,, ever….I will keep… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
7 years ago

@Hey Kesyer – I offered what I meant in being a “natural alpha” – every line of it true. I also discovered that naturals don’t know what they are. I didn’t think I was an alpha till about a year ago when I started “coming out” as Red Pill to my male friends. They all said, “You are an alpha” without me ever claiming it, or laughed when I try to say I was a half assed alpha.This is how I was known to other people. Isn’t that the definition? What other’s think? And not knowing, doesn’t that make me… Read more »

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

scribblerg, “There are many levels of sugardaddying.” This. Don’t have to sugardaddy the ex and daughter anymore, so a little here and there is no big deal. Rent, allowance…no way. Also I’ve been becoming more open to paid ONS, but haven’t yet played it. After all you’re not paying for the sex, but for them to go away. “When you are 50+ and trying to bang 20 somethings, any play is good practice.” 60+ “…dye job (the subtle one) takes 10 years off of me.” Same same. A guy at work said I looked 45. He’s just being kind, but… Read more »

Scribblerg
Scribblerg
7 years ago

@long – Yeah the ankle biting from the children here means they have no idea what kind game you have to playing to get ant attention from hotties at your age, forget me @ 53. I think they also cannot comprehend the hit of vitality an older man gets from a young sexy woman, it’s delicious. As for weight training get someone who knows about hiit training. I do an insane workout. I combine two body pRts and do 16 sets of 4 different exercise for each body part. 32 sets a session. In ours set of arms 30 second… Read more »

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

“As you develop stop at the first tweet of muscle or connective tissue.”

Paying particular attention to connective tissue. Muscle develops much faster and it isn’t too hard when starting out to develop muscular strength beyond what your connective tissue is ready to handle.

In his later years Bruce Lee’s weight training routine was almost entirely centered on developing his connective tissues. Nonetheless, his muscles were described as being “warm marble.”

fleezer
fleezer
7 years ago

“Without all that understanding and skill, it’s just lambs to a slaughter…but because of solipsism and males as expendable tools, society is okay with that lol” marriage is the ultimate shit test. and it should be because the benefits to a man are enormous. 1. Sex. I have much much more sex being married than I could ever get as a single man. the amount of time and work it would take to get a quality fuck and an excellent bj everyday as a single man would make it almost impossible for me to pursue anything else. the benefits of… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
7 years ago

@KFG – I’m a rank amateur at lifting seriously, you and others here please chime in with advice to Long. I did get motivated to get serious from this blog by guys here, so thanks.

insanitybytes22
7 years ago

“A man should only ever have oneitis for himself. Selfish, self-serving, aloof, indifferent, unpredictable, insatiable. This is what she wants.”

Really? Because if I had a man like that, I think I’d just turn him into a bad smell coming from my attic.

ChocDoc
ChocDoc
7 years ago

@ Fleezer:

You have mentioned some intersting points.
You seem to have solved the puzzle.

One questions though: ” Do you have a prenup? “.

fleezer
fleezer
7 years ago

regarding shit tests

confidence comes with early experience.

there is nothing like passing a crazy young girl’s tests only to run into the final level that must be passed; her parents.

getting a ride to her house (knowing that your time is limited) and then proceeding to make acceptable small talk with her parents when everyone knows that you’re about to head to her room and fuck her while her mom and dad watch tv is nerve-racking to say the least.

this makes dealing with an isolated woman seem much easier in comparison.

MarineAircrew
MarineAircrew
7 years ago

Without reading any of the previous comments, and certainly not holding any favoritism of Hilldabeast, and having fought in war, held my fellow man in his final moments, and presented the colors to surviving widows, I have a few thoughts: The dead are in a place where they have no worries. Take that statement for what you will. Men are those who pay the butcher’s bill in war. Women are left with the impoverished state of things once the bill is paid. I am a tremendous admirer of Stephen Pressfield’s works (he himself a fellow Marine), and his descriptions of… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
7 years ago

@All – Note, IB now talking about killing men who don’t adopt the worldview she believes men should hold. How classy and Christian, lol. More posing, more desperation to seem tough, it’s all so pathetic. What a trainwreck this broad must be IRL, I can’t even imagine what she’s like to live with. There isn’t a woman in my world who would dream of ever saying such an awful thing, no matter what the circumstances. But she sets herself up here as judge and jury and as supposedly cruising intellectually, morally and spiritually above us imbeciles and monsters. It’s just… Read more »

Kyfho Myoba
Kyfho Myoba
7 years ago

@ Not Born This Morning
“There is absolutely now way we can collect enough verifiable evidence to claim a murder rate during prehistoric times.”

This is true, but we do have some pretty good data on the Yanomami, and it’s that around 30% of males die violently. I also read somewhere that there are some genetic markers for r/K selection in humans, and that the Yanomami have the highest incidence of said marker for r selection.

FWIW.,

fleezer
fleezer
7 years ago

“Do you have a prenup?” No. My frame is the prenup. A wife with a wet pussy who’s afraid her husband will leave her doesn’t have the energy to play offense. A defensive woman is a happy woman and dread is the key to sublimating hypergamy and solipsism. Paper prenups get invalidated all the time. Judges are cock sucking assholes and paper contracts don’t mean shit. The rule of law is dead. We’re back to the law of the jungle. It’s every man for himself. I would not get married today and I will never remarry. It’s too much like… Read more »

insanitybytes22
7 years ago

“Today, I live in a nation whose women pity my service and my hardships endured in combat, and a world where the enemies I once met on the battlefield advance with impunity knowing I am not there to meet him.” Well, I don’t pity you. I thank you for your service and for your words of wisdom here today. Some men do not understand, but these are our sons, our husbands, our brothers, and we often love them even more than we love our own selves. People like scribblerg cannot feel that, they are so wounded and damaged inside that… Read more »

francischalk
7 years ago

The only problem with quoting Hillary is she has never spoken an honest word in her life. It’s all politics all the time for that woman, but outstanding read none-the-less.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
7 years ago

@insanityCunt.

“A woman should only ever have oneitis for herself . Selfish, self-serving, aloof, indifferent, unpredictable, insatiable. This is what he wants.”

Really? Because if I had a woman like that, I think I’d just turn her into a bad smell coming from my attic.

How about that?
Do you agree a man should do the same?
Yeah, show your true colors you violent insane Cunt .

Ps
Michelle Carter used your kind of solipsism to kill her friend.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
7 years ago

Insanity,
“People like scribblerg cannot feel that, they are so wounded and damaged inside that they have nothing to offer the world but hate filled words while they shake their impotent little fists. These are the men I pity, those who can never know a woman’s love.”

Scribblerg is the way he is because of hypocritical insane Cunts like you who wants to :
Because if I had a man like that, I think I’d just turn him into a bad smell coming from my attic.

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

” . . . these are our sons . . .”

The exchange that MarineAircrew relates was a mother talking to her son.

insanitybytes22
7 years ago

“Yeah, show your true colors you violent insane Cunt ” Not at all. I show some well reasoned common sense when confronted by men so broken and full of rage, they really aren’t fit to have relationships with women at all. Not only is your wounding repulsive to women, it is shameful to all the grown up men in the world who know how to act like decent human beings, men who are worthy of my admiration and respect, men who chose to make the world a better place, men who lead, men who call women to follow them because… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 years ago

Rollo, reading that article carefully reveals details: 1. All adult males were killed. 2. All the children were killed. 3. Women over 40 were killed. That leaves fertile aged women and possibly teenaged boys as captives/slaves. The tactics of shinbusting are quite workable with the tools, keeps a killing from turning into a fight. So much for the “peaceful” good old days. wacokid – good first step, one of the amazing things about maintaining frame, especially when connected with solid Game, is how well it works from the start. Now, follow through with that, any woman willing to go out… Read more »

longgone
longgone
7 years ago

“Because if I had a man like that, I think I’d just turn him into a bad smell coming from my attic.”

Rollo,

Maybe earned another time-out?

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

“I always enjoy when Bytes lets her true, 2nd stage feminist beliefs out.”

And so much for her claims of an Extra Super Alpha husband.

insanitybytes22
7 years ago

“And so much for her claims of an Extra Super Alpha husband.”

He’s an amazing man, the precise opposite of so many of you, kind to me, generous, a good father. I actually delight in pleasing him, in serving him, in pouring words of encouragement and praise over him. He is a man worthy of respect, one who never plays games, one who would never perceive himself as so unworthy he has to rely on manipulation and trickery to try to control women.

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

And if you ever find him sniffing around in the attic, he’s trying to find out where you hid his balls.

insanitybytes22
7 years ago

“And if you ever find him sniffing around in the attic, he’s trying to find out where you hid his balls.”

But at least he has some! Most of you couldn’t find yours with two hands and a flashlight.

kfg
kfg
7 years ago

Q.E.D.

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
7 years ago

“reasoned common sense” ¡ (insanity style)

Because if I had a man like that, I think I’d just turn him into a bad smell coming from my attic.

Ps
Insanity, What is your N count (including the ones while married)(?).
Ps2,
Oh never mind

insanitybytes22
7 years ago

“This solipsism is the necessary result of a feminine survival instinct that’s helped preserve women and their offspring in a violent, chaotic and uncertain evolution.”

Amen, Tomassi! I’m terribly sorry if the feminine survival instinct makes some men suffer from the feel-bad, but you sad and pathetic human beings are simply going to have to get over yourselves. Women have a right to survive and if you want to be with one, than grow the hell up and become something a woman would want.

thedeclineandfall
7 years ago

@insanitybytes22

“Women have a right to survive.”

Nobody on this planet has a ‘right’ to survive. You have to ‘work’ to survive in this world. Most things in nature ‘earn’ their existence or end up food for something better.

You only live a privileged life in an advanced technical society because men build, maintain, and protect you. Otherwise you would be wearing a burka in some poor Islamic shithole thanking Allah you actually lived to see the wall at age 30 after six to ten pregnancies.

Typical female entitlement.

insanitybytes22
7 years ago

“You only live a privileged life in an advanced technical society because men build, maintain, and protect you.”

Correct! Hence my desire to pour praise and support over the men who do so. The rest of you, those who are full of hatred and do nothing but try to spew hateful words and bitterness in the world, you serve no purpose and might as well smell up my attic or fertilize my rose bushes. Is that solipsistic enough for you?

A Definite Beta Guy
7 years ago

Solipsism of the day: ADBG: “The environmental movement wrongly believes planting additional trees is an automatic good environmental move. These can actually be quite invasive and add to carbon dioxide emissions and even increase temperature.” Mrs. ADBG: “We can’t put a tree in our backyard. I really want one. But it would hit our power line.” Seriously, just talk to a woman long enough. This is a daily occurrence. It’s not about personalizing the environmental movement “charity starts at home,” but “trees” and “These are my feelings about trees” and “These are my concerns about trees” and “wait, what are… Read more »

keyser Soze
keyser Soze
7 years ago

He’s an amazing man((he is boring)) , the precise opposite of so many of you((he just doesn’t get it)), kind to me((he knows about the torture chamber in the attic)), generous((Big time Beta,no money no sex)), a good father((he reminds me of my father and that makes the tingles disappeared)). I actually delight in pleasing him((do you swallow too?)), in serving him((??)), in pouring words of encouragement and praise over him((it makes my Dog jealous)). He is a man worthy of respect((but not worthy of my tingles)), one who never plays games((because I’m the one who games him)), one who… Read more »

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 years ago

“How deep to sand the thing”

ADBG what kind of floor are you working? A lot of “wood” floors installed in the last 20 years are either thin parquet or some kind of thin wood over laminate, or even laminate. Some of that stuff can’t really be sanded beyond touch-up.

If all you need to do is strip polyurethane and re-coat then 100 to 120 grit would do it, that full refinish seems pretty involved to me.

Know the wood before you start up, that’s my suggestion.

Anonymous Reader
Anonymous Reader
7 years ago

Bytes
He’s an amazing man, the precise opposite of so many of you, kind to me, generous, a good father. I actually delight in pleasing him, in serving him, in pouring words of encouragement and praise over him. He is a man worthy of respect, one who never plays games, one who would never perceive himself as so unworthy he has to rely on manipulation and trickery to try to control women.

Explain why you spend so much time here trolling, again?

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