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CH maxim: The feminist goal is removing all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality

The following is a story from the Red Pill subredd:

My all too true story goes like this: years ago in my divorce my wife basically stopped having sex with me. The lack of sex was in line with her seemingly having a problem with anything I did (be it how I dressed, how I told jokes, and more). …Note: sex was once every two months or so if that.

I tried to talk to her about how it seemed we just weren’t getting along that well. She said we were getting along just fine. The only problem was me. Per my wife I had UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS about married life after 15 years of being together and with kids running around. Her work demands also helped make sex a low priority for her. She was too tired in the evening. The kids were up in the morning. The weekends were needed to catch up on house stuff and spend time with the kids. Vacations were also “kid” time. The twist she put on it was DIDN’T I LOVE THE KIDS?

Another problem I had (per my wife) was that was I was TOO SENSITIVE. My “whining” about the lack of sex and closeness was proof of this.

[Game note: If I were to consider another Iron Rule of Tomassi it would be this: Never complain, whine, negotiate, or otherwise attempt to appeal to a woman’s reason by explaining your need for sex, intimacy or “closeness”. Nothing demonstrates lower value and reconfirms a woman’s Beta perception of you than openly complaining, or explaining, about your sexless status.

This is not exclusively for married men. Rank Beta men will often make these “dryspell appeals” to female friends who then talk to their other friends and pass on your DLV impression to them.]

Unfortunately, I bought her story line and internalized it. I self-censored, essentially stopping my complaining about no sex and just accepted it. I was less accepting of her poor day-to-day treatment of me but even on that point I tried not to complain too much (not wanting to come across as “whiny”).

And I was pro-active about trying to make our marriage better. I tried my best to be positive about things. I even kept a diary to keep myself honest. I did more chores around the house. I more and more let her have things her way. And I was already in quite good physical shape. I made myself even more so.

And the end result of all this? Turns out my wife had been having secret affairs for years. She was having sex 4 or 5 times a week with her lovers (lunch time, quickies after work in a park, the beach locker, the driveway at night, etc.) Her story line on “my problems” had mostly just been bullshit to keep me at bay so she could continue her secret affairs. As she told me at the tail end of our divorce in a moment of candor, the “forbidden fruit” of extramarital sex was “very exciting”. Her longest term lover (3 years) had just been a play thing and only ended when he asked her to marry him (not realizing he was also being “cheated” on with another lover my wife had).

Next up is TRM reader Razorwire who came strong with this comment from the Adaptations II thread:

[…] I’d say by now the societal and personal risks are negligible for pretty much any decision made by women. So these days, the delay of the beta-bucks model is extended to encompass a starter marriage or having children. The cuckold window is wide open.

I’ve seen this in fellow genXers who actually married young (by todays standards) but of course those men turned out to be jerks or were too irresponsible or selfish (all of the things that got her wet) so they divorced and she quickly locked down the beta-bux who was likely her “friend” back in college or some “nice” co-worker she met in her three-year career with the insurance company.

I went to one such wedding a couple of summers ago. Now that they have a kid and she’s realized the full potential of the AF/BB transition, she can’t (or doesn’t bother to) hide her disdain for his niceness and general lack of alpha behavior. He’s a dead man walking.

On that note, I caught a trailer of an upcoming Will Ferrell film: “Daddy’s Home.” Frames it up nicely.

While I’m sure they will have some hollywood make-believe ending in which the biological dad realizes his loss, has to confront manhood (as defined by the FI), and is jealous/admiring of the stepdad for his honorable provisioning of the kids, the interesting part of the trailer was how it focused on the two “dads” competing for the love and attention of the kids. I’m sure it is funny, but also telling.

Not only is the Sandberg stepdad supposed to be a just-in-time dad to fulfill the equalist needs of the post-wall (and in this case – post reproduction) wife, but he is also expected to pedestalize and perform for the offspring of the cad in order to earn (and keep) his place as the settle-down guy in the eyes of the wife. He must keep winning his way through the consolation bracket for a wife who has not just achieved the AF/BB transition, but has done so after capturing the genetics of the Alpha. He doesn’t even “get” the beta bucks prize of breeding.

The dwindling societal pressure to honor marital commitments and minimal shame of divorce has allowed the delay of beta bucks to blow past birth control in terms of prevention into what is now birth control in terms of actualizing female preference for the AF offspring – with rapidly decreasing risk/impact on her ability to secure the Beta Bux stepdad or post-baby-daddy husband (because now marriage means something to her.)

With, of course, big daddy gov’t as a stand in. But I’d reckon that the attractive single moms are not struggling at all to parlay into BB.

Because they aren’t his kids the stepdad’s burden of performance includes purchasing/exchanging resources for the children’s love which is one more condition he must continually meet in order to maintain her conditional love. Talk about a fleeting proposition.

Peruse any online dating site and you will see the teaser advertising for this coming from all single moms. It’s really just “must love dogs” on crack but often with more bait n switch mechanisms.

Meanwhile the perpetual competition (between you and him) merely deepens the resource pool for her to leverage into her lifestyle and security.

One man is operating under the threatpoint of divorce, the other under the legal extortive aspects of the post-divorce financial fatherhood model. Both must pay to play. Both are subject to her approval, her terms – backed by the social and legal structure. As such, neither are actually fathers, but just offshoots of motherhood channeled through provisioning and conditional exchanges.

I’d say even with the extensive provisioning (the kids in this flick have it all), the kids are still getting the shit end of it. Two marginalized dads is still less than one Father, one marriage. They are just being indoctrinated into the consumerist, fem-centric, self-indulgent model of modern marriage.

A mom who goes full AF/BB with kids in tow may get sold as the heroines journey, but it still strikes me as deeply selfish.

We had an interesting discussion in this thread about modern cuckoldry and the rise of it becoming ‘fetishized’ for men as some new form of ‘alternative’ lifestyle. I’ll get into the grisly biological nuts and bolts of this later, but before I do the practical reasonings for a societally acceptable cuckoldry need to be highlighted.

I chose Razorwire’s comment and the story above to illustrate a fundamental Red Pill truth – Hypergamy is nothing if not pragmatic.

In a larger respect, a woman optimizing Hypergamy follows a predictable schedule, but as Razorwire points out, on a psychological level it also builds fail-safe contingencies into that schedule. Root level, largely subconscious, survival/parental investment insecurities and long term insurances against them drives this pragmatism. Thus we see operative social conventions carefully prepared to excuse and absolve women’s duplicitous behaviors in both a social and personal scope.

What benefits a female sexual strategy is forgivable and prudent in a fem-centric social order no matter what the personal consequences are. Women’s default victimhood status is their strongest insurance against those consequences while what benefits men’s sexual strategy is characterized as selfish, juvenile or criminal. These characterizations, and the social conventions that are an extension of them, are part of the pragmatism of Hypergamy.

When you look at the time line I presented in the Preventative Medicine book and series, and you get to the stages just before and just after a woman’s Epiphany Phase – the phase at which a woman’s subconscious understanding that her SMV decline has begun in earnest – you begin to see a bigger picture; a meta overview of the necessity of keeping Blue Pill men ignorant of their long term role in that strategy.

While women increasingly embrace Open Hypergamy and become increasingly more confident of their capacity to satisfy both sides of it (AF/BB) due to a presumed expectation for men to also openly support it, there comes less expectation to try to optimize Hypergamy with only one man.

The Future of Hypergamy is Cuckoldry

The following quote came from a fantastic essay one of Heartiste’s readers, Chris, submitted regarding the recent gay marriage ruling:

I don’t know many men who would sign up to an institution where the partners are expected/morally obliged to be emotionally faithful but not sexually faithful. It is much easier for women to get casual sex than men, so any man signing himself up to that deal would be signing himself up for cuckoldry and cuckoldry is the absolute worst thing that can happen to a man pursuing a long-term mating strategy, (and it is the evolved moral norms surrounding the long-term mating strategy which marriage as a cultural institution is/was developed around/for.)

Of course, if people became more knowledgeable about evo-bio/evo-psych and instead started calling marriage essentially what it is, the social-codification of the long-term mating strategy in humans, then this concern wouldn’t really matter. (No worrying about importing norms anti-thetical to the reproductive interests of one party in the relationship and subsequently which disincentivizes the pursuit of the strategy from that party as its definition is strictly evo-bio/evo-psych.)

In The Myth of the Good Guy I put forth the idea that while women would ideally like to have both the Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks aspects of Hypergamy satisfied by the same man, women today don’t even have the expectation that this is in anyway possible, much less is it preferable to them anymore. The expectation becomes one of the Sandberg plan; expect to bang the bad boys, the Alphas and the thrill providers while your SMV is high, and expect a good, persistent and reliable ‘Dad’ to be ready to forgive and forget all that before you’re 30.

What Chris digs into in that essay isn’t so much about gays being married, but rather the fundamental restructuring of the nature of marriage. Religious issues only serve as a convenient distraction, the nuts and bolts of it is that this edict fundamentally restructures the legal aspects of male/female marriage. When this restructuring questions and impedes the access to long-term resource provisioning for divorced women (initiators of 70+% of divorces), that’s when you’ll see a truly misandric inequality in hetero vs. homosexual marriage arrangements. Men will still need to be forced into indenturement and forced to cooperate with a binding commitment to Hypergamy in the face of alternative marriages not based on monogamy.

Indeed, what man would sign up for that arrangement? Particularly in an era when women (not the Red Pill) blatantly lay bare the duplicity of their sexual strategies.

Limiting Dick

Around the time I was writing the second book I’d gotten into a Twitter debate with several feminists on a hashtag called #askmenanything or something to that effect. The pretense was of course to “ask men” all the insipid meme questions and answer them for men with feminist boilerplate. Once the Red Pill forums and manosphere proper got involved the tag quickly switched footing and feminists lost interest.

It was during one of these exchanges that I’d quoted Heartiste’s maxim from the start of this post to a particular feminist; Feminism’s end goal is removing all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality.

Her response was an incredulous, “So you think all feminism is about is limiting dick?!”

It was of course the type of simple dismissive I’ve come to expect from the fem-powerment generation, but it sums up the dynamic pretty well. It’s always been my take that feminism in all of its waves has always been another social arm of the Feminine Imperative; which has always been an imperative driven by the best interests of optimizing women’s Hypergamous choices.

So yes, feminism is in fact about ‘limiting dick’ by socially, legislatively, personally and psychologically facilitating the selecting out and opting in on what best serves a woman’s short term and long term sexual strategy needs – throughout her entire life, not just around her Epiphany Phase. She needs the Alpha bull for his raw sexuality, dominance and confidence, and she needs the Beta comfort, investment and reliability that her bull is unwilling or unable to give her.

In this new age of proactive and reactive cuckoldry, men are expected to put up and shut up with playing the role of one or the other. In our thread conversation about cuckold fetishes the idea was put out that there’s some sick or deviant mindset in which a man gets off on watching his wife get pounded by another man. Keep in mind the possibility that the rise in popularity of cuckold porn may be an extension of this new paradigm.

The cuckold fetish narrative follows the same Hypergamous script as any other “alternative lifestyle”. As I mentioned in the Adaptation series, even within the ostensibly Free Love paradigm the same Hypergamous imperative was played out. In cuckold porn there is always an Alpha bull, a ‘superior’ sexual competitor that fucks that man’s wife; an inferior Beta sexual partner is never the tingle generating center of that fantasy. Thus that husband plays his expected passive, supportive role within that “fantasy” and thus is that wife’s dualistic Alpha Fucks sexual strategy completed.

That’s the messy nuts and bolts of it, but it’s all too easy to get caught up in the sensation of our blood boiling in righteous indignation than to see the larger perspective. This too is a part of the pragmatism of Hypergamy.

Cuckoldry is not simply about who got to breed with a woman before or after she settled into a committed monogamy; it’s about the consistent impulse to optimize Hypergamy. It is cuckoldry for a man to assume the parental investment responsibilities of another man that a woman previously bred with. It can be proactive or it can be reactive, but the purpose it serves is the same.

Few people really grasp how outrageous it is for a man to take part in his own cuckoldry. We call those men heroes for playing savior to a woman who made “bad choices” and invests himself in a child he didn’t father, but even this association has become yet another expectation of the dutiful Beta’s role. A conditioned White Knight disposition makes him feel good about it, but it’s a woman’s strategy that comes to completion, not his own. A bull was in his bed long before him.

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M Simon
10 years ago

Striver
July 6th, 2015 at 7:53 pm

“When you live outside the law you must be honest.” – famous popular philosopher

Thugs have all the same virtues military men have. They just apply those virtues to their tribe. The “us” in “them and us” is narrower than the military “us”.

It is one of the reasons you will find so many ex-military men in biker gangs.

The difference re: women can be summed up in the biker dictum. “Bros before hos.” For the military man it is “women and children first.”

iwjan
iwjan
10 years ago

Great breakdown of Nickelodeon show Bella and the Bulldogs as cuckoldry propaganda. It is my belief that this push beyond simple hypergamy into an open embracing of cuckoldry is a concerted and planned effort.

https://right.orain.org/wiki/Bella_and_the_Bulldogs

and the hat tip link to the original post that led me to the above link.

https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.wordpress.com/2015/05/22/subliminal-anti-white-propaganda/

hamster_wrestler
hamster_wrestler
10 years ago

kfg on July 6, 2015 at 5:24

“Therefore Loretta has a right to have a baby, on principle.”

Yup! It’s not even the Romans’ fault.

D. Horrenbrand
10 years ago

It seems that women have it all in current world.

Regards,
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Datson H.
https://redmalehummingbird.wordpress.com/

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
10 years ago

You realize that with IB you are dealing with someone who is around Simon’s age, don’t you? I mean it isn’t really relevant to what most of you guys are experiencing, so it’s not really a discussion worth having.

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
10 years ago

Great breakdown of Nickelodeon show Bella and the Bulldogs as cuckoldry propaganda. Heh, well it is by the guy who made the Cuck movie, so that makes sense. However, it doesn’t seem directly to be cuck, but rather to be pro-interracial relationships — she isn’t married. As much as anything it seems to be catering to the rather large fantasization that white women/girls have for black men sexually (look at the porn that women watch — it’s generally either lesbian or BM/WW interracial). So basically it’s trying to sell to young female (teenage) eyeballs who are already into watching BM/WW… Read more »

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago
Reply to  Novaseeker

It’s not enough that the imperative conditions our boys for Blue Pill feminization.

It’s not enough that Pixar and Disney prepare our daughters for Alpha Widowhood and Open Hypergamy.

It’s not enough Nickelodeon employs writers to teach our boys about accepting their eventual cuckoldry.

No, we need a camp to properly destroy them…

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2013/07/15/_you_are_you_looks_at_a_gender_nonconforming_camp_for_boys_photos.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_top

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago
Reply to  Rollo Tomassi

Notice this phenomena is in large part about boys/men wanting to become girls/women. When gender dismorphia presents in male children, they are almost always homosexual – what, you never heard this in the press? Read this book by J. Michal Bailey of Northwestern http://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/JMichael-Bailey/TMWWBQ.pdf IT’S FREE! He’s a research psychologist studying human sexuality and in particular homosexuality and transgenderism. The book is written in way that is accessible to anybody and it will blow your mind. Also know that he’s apolitical, not a fundo Christian and actually hates the spotlight. The LGBT crowd went wild on him and almost got… Read more »

Retrenched
Retrenched
10 years ago

Roissy maxim: Always assume that she is a slut. It will take her off the pedestal you want to put her on, and it’s most likely true anyway.

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
10 years ago

Pampering little faggot boys … how pathetic.

This is why my own son, 16, is spending his summer with other young men canoeing up to Hudson’s Bay. No girls, no crap, just shoveling the gravel for 7 weeks and fighting off bugs and rapids. And he loves it.

That camp is pathetic, really. Such sad parents.

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago
Reply to  Novaseeker

But Nova, c’mon now, there’s no conspiracy to feminize men! It’s all just part of our wounded psyches that makes us imagine we’ve been conditioned to accept a Beta role.

insanitybytes22
10 years ago

Tomassi, I really do apologize if I’ve given the impression that I endorse cuckoldry. I don’t. “So yes, feminism is in fact about ‘limiting dick’ by socially, legislatively, personally and psychologically….” You’re quite right here you know. All in good humor, but that is what sent many of us fleeing from feminism long ago. Some of us really resent being told what we can and cannot have. The feminist agenda is a very relentless and insidious desire for complete control, a totalitarian need to not just control men, but to control women too. You do that first by creating disunity,… Read more »

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
10 years ago

“Are you testing your perceptions against the perceptions here, looking for contrast to reaffirm beliefs or looking for new insight?” NBTM “I’ve answered that question a few times in several different ways, but yes good enough, I was seeking to test my own perceptions.” IB Heh, Soul Sister, Steve Jobs once said: “People think focus means saying yes to the thing you’ve got to focus on. But that’s not what it means at all. It means saying no to the hundred other good ideas that are there. You have to pick carefully. I’m actually as proud of the things we… Read more »

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
10 years ago

insanitybytes22
July 6th, 2015 at 9:32 pm

There are only about 30 different flavors of feminism. You may say you reject feminism. But you are an equalist.

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
10 years ago

But Nova, c’mon now, there’s no conspiracy to feminize men! It’s all just part of our wounded psyches that makes us imagine we’ve been conditioned to accept a Beta role.

Haha, yes. We just don’t understand.

kobayashii1681
10 years ago

Reblogged this on 254MGTOW and commented:
Seminal….S-E-M-I-N-A-L!!!!!!

nek
nek
10 years ago

To Rollo ( or anyone):

In situations where the woman has had kids with both a more lover type guy and a more provider type guy, do you think there’s a marked difference in how she treats each? As in, is she more affectionate and attentive towards one or the other? I work with a guy in this situation (he’s getting divorced too) and was curious to how this dynamic works. I think I know the answer but I’d appreciate input from anyone that has better skills at articulating points than I.

kobayashii1681
10 years ago

Fuck me this is deep! The truth in freeing those trapped cuts deep…arigatou Rollo-san!
Hypergamy gon’ do what hypergamy does….so…Adapt, maintain frame, demonstrate don’t explicate. Rinse. Repeat.

insanitybytes22
10 years ago

“There are only about 30 different flavors of feminism. You may say you reject feminism. But you are an equalist.”

No, there really is only one kind of feminism. There are a whole lot of women and some men that attempt to redefine and reinterpret it in ways that make them feel better, but it’s really just one relentless ideology.

I really am not an equalist. I’ve always enjoyed being unequal, why in the world would I want to give that up? I always felt as if I were getting the better end of the deal.

Signor Farfalla
Signor Farfalla
10 years ago

“There are only about 30 different flavors of patriarchy. You may say you reject patriarchy. But you are an equalist.” No, there really is only one kind of patriarchy. There are a whole lot of men and some women that attempt to redefine and reinterpret it in ways that make them feel better, but it’s really just one relentless ideology. I really am not an equalist. I’ve always enjoyed being unequal, why in the world would I want to give that up? I always felt as if I were getting the better end of the deal. Just taking the ‘find… Read more »

M Simon
10 years ago

Rollo Tomassi
July 6th, 2015 at 9:17 pm

At 3 I was into lipstick. Perfume. And my mother’s dresses and high heels. But making a camp out of it?

Anyway – I don’t think what 3 year olds are into proves anything.

The idea that it “proves something” is probably the real perversion.

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
10 years ago

“I always felt as if I were getting the better end of the deal.” Of course. You wouldn’t want it any other way. “No, there really is only one kind of feminism.” I don’t think so. From an excellent writer, the pseudonymous Ian Ironwood in his book The Manosphere: “Either way, you should pay attention, because feminism is a major cultural force in our society, and has been for decades, but it’s important you understand just what feminism is, what it isn’t, what it professes to be, what it wants to be, and the bloody legacy it has left in… Read more »

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
10 years ago

I’m almost ashamed I read Ian Ironwood’s Manosphere book last year for free on my paid Kindle Unlimited plan (he might have gotten a few cents) instead of paying $4.99 for the kindle only version. Ironwood is an infrequent commenter here. For those men that start reading in the manosphere and get confused and ping-pong back and forth from the Three R’s and their blog-rolls with out knowing where to go for what they are seeking, Ian Ironwood’s book is a good rudder to navigate the turbulent waters. If Rollo could please indulge me (because it is more important for… Read more »

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
10 years ago

Ironwood, for all of the good things he has written, is dead wrong about equity feminism. Equity feminism is a lie, and it is the lie that lies at the heart of the problems between men and women today. It is precisely this kind of “well, that’s okay, but not this” which has landed us in the place we are today. Completely wrong-headed on that.

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
10 years ago

“Equity feminism is a lie, and it is the lie that lies at the heart of the problems between men and women today.” Kind of like foreign policy appeasement. Ian’s concession is a concession to old females like my mother who felt that way all their lives. A patriarchal society sometimes made women feel bad in the 50’s and 60’s. Women are certainly feeling the bad side of patriarchy in the Middle East these days. “Après moi, le déluge” The premise was first wave feminism sounds legit. The premise, you are saying Nova, is wrong. Give an inch, they try… Read more »

Novaseeker
Novaseeker
10 years ago

Heh, he is still a damn good writer.

Definitely!

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago

And that’s enough of your spam

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
10 years ago

@ M. Simon I applaud your efforts and your commentary writing. You have a strategy, but not going to much in a beta provider pussy male way of questioning, let me question what you think about the previous “comfort testing” rather than shit testing that I reference before. It’s one thing if a woman maintains her quality. It is another if she can’t handle it and bails. You have upside optionality and your downside is protected? Love your dichotomy between overtness is sometimes, oftentimes, maybe needed in a LTR, but cannot be tolerated in a STR. BTW, props to you… Read more »

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
10 years ago

Rollo. I’m unaware if that refers to me. Please email me if I errored.

“Umm, sorry?”

stuttie
10 years ago

sjfrellc – Rollo just killed IB the troll

stuttie
10 years ago

sjf – thanks for referencing Ian Ironwood. I remember reading the Red Pill primer for boys when I first unplugged – great stuff. I’ll be adding that to my sons list of RP must-reads.

M Simon
10 years ago

sjfrellc July 7th, 2015 at 1:07 am I don’t quite get your first question. Maybe a rephrase. As to the MC Club. Look up the San Francisco Diggers. Also The San Francisco Mime Troop. Peter Coyote (leader of the pack). Peter Berg (Marxist theory). Briceland Horse and Truck Gang. Planet Drum Foundation. We mainly existed as thieves and scavengers. Although we had good relations with a fair number of LSD chemists. Funds? A LOT seemed to come from Hollywood leftists actors. Also the Theilin Brothers. What did I learn? Society is just a bunch of conventions. Respect for them only… Read more »

M Simon
10 years ago

This now refers to a missing commenter . But it may be of some use. Maybe if I delete the name of who I am replying to it will post. ======================== I have seen LOVE. A mother for a child. Other than that? Brothers in arms. Women for men? Not so much. You looking for loyalty? Get a dog. Women bear no such burden. Even women with oneitis will do all they can to dispel it. It is disempowering. Besides their children what are women in love with? POWER. No matter. FI cultures are weak economically and militarily. They are… Read more »

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
10 years ago

M. Simon Since AWALT, don’t you think your woman can break and not continue to bend. I’m a conventional Midwest man with a middle of the bell curve marriage. Upstream, I posited that sometimes woman is comfort testing you to see that you are not going to go rogue alpha and leave her, rather than shit test you to see if you are up to her standards. My question may just be too way off base because it seems as though what I interpret is that you guys are too wedded to divorce. And in reference to the M.C. club,… Read more »

YaReally
10 years ago

Drive-by real-talk for bnon that he won’t listen to and scribblerg All of your goals conflict and you expect way too much self-awareness and forward thinking from someone with the mental capacity of a 4yo, and probably thought “YaReally doesn’t know her, she’s actually really intelligent” as you read that 4yo comment and will be very disappointed when she falls off the pedestal you’ve put her on. First rule of fight club is you don’t talk about fight club. How many fucking articles does Rollo have on this very sure alone that are trying to tell you that women CAN’T… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago
Reply to  YaReally

My targets are the young hot sluts riding the cock carousel. My entire ambition wrt women is to be the “aging rock star” ride on that carousel, using amused mastery. I could give a fuck what older okay woman want – occasionally I’ll fuck one of them if I feel like it and there is an unlimited supply of them. No, my goal is to sink my cock deep into as many 20something hotties as possible before I croak and while I can. I think you guys are all chasing a shrinking of field of unicorns for LTRs. I think… Read more »

Jonatan
Jonatan
10 years ago

I wish I had taken the blue pill. Now all I see is the true face of women and honestly it makes me sick sometimes… Do you have any suggestions of books for a young Omega male with great ambition?

YaReally
10 years ago

Sorry my wording reads weird, meant to tag scribblerg just cause he requested the reply and I happened to see his request, the advice in the post is for bnon.

BC
BC
10 years ago

And that’s enough of your spam

Rollo just killed IB the troll

I have been waiting for this, and commend both the fact that it happened, and that it took so much to make it happen.

bnon
bnon
10 years ago

Is there a character limit here?

bnon
bnon
10 years ago

YaReally: „You want to teach her a script to follow in bed but don’t want her to follow a script in bed. This is stupid. Get a girl who already knows how to fuck (can’t do that tho, you want a low N-count girl who’s just magically good at sucking cock…how do you think girls who suck good cock got good at it?[…])“ I didn’t say I want a girl with low n-coint for me, I said I’d like to tell that girl that she should keep it low, for her sake. I’ll honestly think about the 4yo thing. It’s… Read more »

kfg
kfg
10 years ago

“I’ll honestly think about the 4yo thing. It’s hyperbole, of course . . .”

Indeed, she’s actually like a 6 year old. But, she’s not your child. It isn’t your responsibility to raise her. She is not your fix-it project. Beyond her interactions with you she is not your problem.

Take that Cap’n Save a Ho costume and burn the fucker. Save yourself, man.

stuttie
10 years ago

“You want to teach her to be a slutty whore who loves sex but then you want her to keep a low N-count. How do you think feeding a 4yo cookies and getting them hooked on cookies and then leaving them alone in a room full of cookies with legs that dance around them and try to get in their mouth will go?” “They are fundamentally unable to accept anything that doesn’t align with how they feel things should be in any given moment. But you want to try to tell her about fight club. She will ultimately give no… Read more »

Bromeo
Bromeo
10 years ago

@Rollo

Insanity was shit testing you big time to see if you would go against your own word and one of your own rules in not banning anyone from this comment section no matter how much they troll, you gave in man 😉

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago
Reply to  Bromeo

Insanity was simply spamming this forum for the past 2 months. She skims through a post, picks out what fits her script, quotes it and then c&p’s the exact same comments she made in the posts before it. Her long ignorant comments on the Eat, Prey, Love post before she got caught illustrates this exactly. Her only purpose here is to spam the same comments repeatedly. I did the same with MYG for blanketing the comments with as many off topic comments and random links as she could. That is spam. Insanity is spam. Anyone slamming my comments with links… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

“Large numbers of today’s educated, middle-class women are more stressed, more prone to depression and drinking more than ever before. They are leaving it too late to settle down and have children, and ending up alone — and lonely.” This only one of many gems in this article. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3130768/If-feminism-set-women-free-feel-pressure-Ex-Cosmopolitan-editor-LINDA-KELSEY-fought-equality-believes-s-got-dark-side.html So they got everything they wanted, but hate it, yet it’s still all due to discrimination by men who won’t do their bit at home (who actually are). Read this, it’s an amazing insight into the FI and hamstering. I want to put a question out to this community. Now that… Read more »

kfg
kfg
10 years ago

” . . . where do you think this is going? ”

They always double down.

longgone
longgone
10 years ago

kfg,

It’s been almost 150 interesting, thought-provoking and useful comments before that useless idiot troll returned. Maybe ignoring it will extend the run. Just sayin’ ……Thanks.

longgone
longgone
10 years ago

Thanks Rollo…what a relief. Won’t miss either of them, but like the flu it always comes back.

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
10 years ago

“sjfrellc – Rollo just killed IB the troll”

Thanks Stuttie, it was late in the Eastern time zone and I thought maybe I cut and pasted too much in counterpoint to her.

stuttie
10 years ago

@ Bromeo – IB22 wasn’t shit testing it had to be destroyed.

stuttie
10 years ago

– I’ve got your back

IB22 served a purpose in ways but as per usual – ‘give an inch, they take a mile’. Her (hopefully) last post reeked of never ending ad hominem femcrap.

bnon
bnon
10 years ago

@Rollo: If I write something, click ‘Post Comment’ and it doesn’t do anything, what’s happening? Is the text too long? Have I been in the browser window for too long?

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago
Reply to  bnon

Comment rules are only set to 3 links per comment, otherwise it goes to mod because WP thinks it’s spam.

kfg
kfg
10 years ago

Re Insanity:

Once all the Germans were warlike, and mean,
but that couldn’t happen, again.
We taught them a lesson, in 1918,
and they’ve hardly bothered us since then.

Badpainter
Badpainter
10 years ago

scribblerg – “Now that the social justice warriors have achieved hegemonic control of all society’s crucial institutions, and now are increasingly using state power to encroach on men, where do you think this is going?” Black markets are the future. In some ways the SMV is divided between black and white markets, the players in the black and the AFCs in the white. All women are transacting in the aggregate SMV but sell different services in the black vs. markets. I see more men discovering the black market and through game and other means leveraging what they can out of… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago
Reply to  Badpainter

They’ve already got the equality they don’t like. I think what we’ll see is a much more militant approach against men – regardless of the outcomes. And for folks who are leftists, all I have to say is fuck you for fucking up our society so dramatically (and no, you don’t own the civil rights movement, this was not a leftist invention). You have to see feminism as of a piece with the victory and takeover of society by Social Justice Warriors. I say the left has already won and is not just consolidating their power. Men here who limit… Read more »

bnon
bnon
10 years ago

@scribblerg: Do you think it’s too late to affect society to personally see the fruits of a change? (Personally I agree.) How old are you and then where/how do you approach college chicks? “Perfect time to be a selfish atheist. Best part about the Red Pill? So much less anger…There world is what it is and my strategy is what suits me.” Italian anarchism was in part influenced by the works of a German thinker 150 years ago (critiqued in length by Marx), who literally wrote the definite book on “I do what suits me and only that.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Stirner http://dflund.se/~triad/stirner/theego/theego.pdf#17… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago
Reply to  bnon

@bnon – I’m 52 but in my better moments look 40. I don’t think for me it’s worthwhile to try and affect society. I’m familiar with Stirner and am no devotee of his. Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough, it’s not that I’m adverse to social order of any sort, no, I’m adverse to the social order that prevails in this society and transgress against it every chance I get. I was born in 1962 and while I’m not one of those guys who longs for the good old days, I did get a strong whiff of a world where men… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
10 years ago

scribblerg – “I’m with George Orwell on what the future is going to bring us – after all he described the social justice warrior reign so aptly so far. ‘If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.’ – George Orwell” Sadly I agree, or least agree there will be period of exactly that. In the mean time I’m noticing the epiphany phase ladies all seem to have a sort of pleading look in their eyes, a…umm…desperation?fear? or something. I like that. Even better I like the eagerness of the younger… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

Am trying to shove the Red Pill down a very troubled friend’s throat. I though the latest episode of the slut/whore (she’s both) that he was seeing would have made him willing to look at a new POV but nope, he’s wedded to his identity. What he discovered about his ex-gfs behavior was stunning, slutty convos on text all over the place, ads online, sugar daddy deals – all right under his nose without him knowing for 6 months. She ultimately admits it all, has been fucking like 10 other guys or more. During this time he tells me “I… Read more »

redlight
redlight
10 years ago

Taylor Swift preaching to 50K in Philly last month: “You are not someone else’s opinion of you. You are not damaged goods because you made mistakes … You are your own definition of beautiful.” http://readingeagle.com/life/article/concert-review-taylor-swift-makes-philly-crowd-shake The FI insists on unconditional love regardless of past behavior Bachelorette last night: Shawn Booth was surprisingly calm when Kaitlyn dropped the “bomb” about her night of passion with Nick. “It’s hard for me to admit it, but we had sex,” were the words Kaitlyn used. Shawn nodded, looked down, stared into space, shook his head and, after taking some time to “regroup” in the… Read more »

Vulpine
Vulpine
10 years ago

Riding up to the “The Rational Male” clubhouse today, I saw a big plume of smoke rising up from the horizon. As I got closer, I saw a sign that said: “Prescribed burn in progress”. Then I read: “you cannot see that women’s alleged victimhood status is no different at all from your very own” and… ““..men’s sexual strategy is characterized as selfish, juvenile or criminal…” Not at all, I characterize it as a rather sad and desperate attempt to to try deny your own irrelevance. It isn’t true you know, that fear of irrelevance, but it is at the… Read more »

M Simon
10 years ago

sjfrellc July 7th, 2015 at 1:54 am As far as I can tell it is strictly a power game. How much can she get? How little can she give? She has oneitis so her leaving would be unlikely. When she does not surrender totally she gets nothing. When she does surrender I can take her to emotional heights undreamed of by the FI. A religious experience. And I can keep it going as long as she stays surrendered. Women have no idea of the POWER of surrender. The FI is weakness squared (not to mention unhappiness) in comparison. In our… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago
Reply to  M Simon

@M. – You are referring to SFCTon. I get the impression that he goes quiet when he’s downrange, so I wouldn’t be surprised for him to crop up again soon. His harem is impressive and a sound example for us all.

I hope he checks in soon.

Atticus
Atticus
10 years ago

@ Redlight. Re: The Bachelorette “I’m just gonna man up and deal with it, and fight through it and get past it, and then move on to tomorrow and that’s what I want to do. . . . Obviously I am (upset), but what am I gonna do? Storm out of here?” Cuckold in training for all to see. I finished working out and came upstairs last night and my daughter was in my chair watching that show. I told her to move because I was going to watch the baseball game. She moaned and left for her room and… Read more »

Atticus
Atticus
10 years ago

Jesus Redlight. After I posted I read the article. It’s worse than I thought. America is doomed. “It all goes back to Texas and some private time Kaitlyn spent with Shawn; her lips were what came unzipped on that occasion. She told Shawn he was “the one” and he’s never going to let her forget it. In fact, he brought it up again at Monday’s rose ceremony. After demanding to talk to Kaitlyn in private before agreeing to accept her rose, Shawn wanted to know why she jeopardized their relationship if he was “the one.” “Telling you that you were… Read more »

M Simon
10 years ago

sjfrellc July 7th, 2015 at 1:54 am My question may just be too way off base because it seems as though what I interpret is that you guys are too wedded to divorce. I agree with that. When I was at the peak of my unhappiness a few days back I was getting all kinds of divorce advice here. Culturally we have only one major tool to solve relationship problems. And that is because the bonding by the Females is weak. That can be corrected with a proper search. My relationship advice? Keep spinning plates until one sticks – no… Read more »

Nevergiveout Youractualname
Nevergiveout Youractualname
10 years ago

thank you for the truth

great article

so true

Atticus
Atticus
10 years ago

@ Simon

Dread is easy in the nursing home. Try out the real world.

Seriously, enough about your LTR, circa 6/25/15 FM. Every fucking post its the same boring mother fucking shit.

Sometimes you have some insightful ideas you post, but it’s ruined because the other 93.5% of the time you come across as a buffoon.

Vulpine
Vulpine
10 years ago

@YaReally Dude, clearly you’ve had the experience of teaching a woman how to have a proper orgasm, only to have her “switch on”, and take her new “sexual super-power” perception on the road. These days, I accept it as a given, a “most likely outcome”, where a chick gets her mind blown, then the hypergamy kicks back in, and she starts thinking that any-and-every guy she’ll meet will produce those same orgasms. Then, like clockwork, the phone rings a month or two down the road… “Hi, it’s so-and-so, how have you been?” It saddens me, that the experiences I give… Read more »

Fred Flange, MansLaughter
Fred Flange, MansLaughter
10 years ago

@Scribblerg: I’d read the Bailey book and it is interesting. Actually it is well-established valid old-school psychology which means it’s out of fashion. One thing he doesn’t discuss is something that’s outside of his narrower focus, but is in the literature. Throughout many childrens’ lives, there may be “brief” periods of experimenting, “trying on” a different identity if you will, which then passes. Also in the literature: as puberty approaches there is a phenomenon that can be called a “misfire”: a sudden but temporary hormonal-inspired obsession with some person (or say, muscular men or girly girls). But it is not… Read more »

rugby11ljh
rugby11ljh
10 years ago

@scribblerg “Every other site in the world is dedicated to Hopeless Betatude – just not this one.” Your right on that. This is a place of refuge and deep love. “Society has killed fatherhood.” Thanks for the link to the book @Anubis Holy hell that’s a stuff spot to be in. @StringsofCoins “There is no support for fatherhood.” Have you read the book men on strike I am reading it now and almost fell in tears on the bus. Shit hurts “And there are sluts all around me. And that’s all their is.” … http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QPuWFycZntI @Driver “Note: forget going to… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

@FredFlang etc – Yo, great points. I too had read elsewhere about various developmental stages for children how they play around with identities. But I didn’t need to read a book to know that, I’ve cared for children for a big chunk of my life and I’ve seen it.. But still, it’s rarely trying on a different sexual orientation for males – whereas for women their sexuality is much more fluid. I’m also not sure whether you are in agreement on the majority of the cases – these are young homosexual boys in large part. If you’ve read Bailey, than… Read more »

Jason773
Jason773
10 years ago

Sorry, the reddit red pill story is either a fake or the guy deserved it, and I’m redpill to the core.

If you’re so oblivious to your surroundings that your wife can cheat on you multiple times a week for YEARS then you are basically a mouthbreather with an 85 IQ. If that story is even remotely true then everything he wrote needs to be taken with a grain of salt as he is just a pathetic man.

Not Born This Morning
10 years ago

Open hypergamy is rapidly transforming into overtly imposed hypergamy where men are impelled to cohere to the tenants of the FI by force. Alpha is a mindset enhanced by personal development and performance. As female domination progresses, individual men are not the ones who determine female perceptions regarding AF/BB. Regardless of male mindset, development and performance, females seek to cherry pick which men are alpha and which men are beta. Alpha males are conscripted into beta roles regardless of alpha character or performance. Beta males are held up by current pop culture as “alpha” although they are not alpha and… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

The cheapened version of masculinity we are treated to in entertainment media is basically a non-stop anti-masculinity campaign. Aggression is always somehow wrong when done by a male if it’s not in direct protection of a woman, and even then she will often second guess him afterwards. Aggressiveness is portrayed as bullying and anger as abuse. Men are presented as emotionally stunted, almost pathetically emotionally retarded quite frequently when in fact it’s well known that men are not so. We just don’t express our emotions as much or focus on them. Hint: These are the kind of adaptations women need… Read more »

kfg
kfg
10 years ago

OT personal venting warning:

It’s pronounced cat-leen.

“Open hypergamy is rapidly transforming into overtly imposed hypergamy . . .”

Open hypergamy is a feature of matriarchy.

YaReally
10 years ago

@Vulpine http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/JShRlvagXmk “Male prostitution is likely to take off in a big way, considering the women in the workforce. Why not flip-the-script and make women pay for sex?” I agree. But pay attention to that video (specifically the part like 2/3rds through where he talks about not fucking them, and scolding them etc.) what will blow most guys’ mind is that women will pay for a lot less than sex. They crave a very different experience from a man than we crave from a woman…figure out how to sell what the customer ACTUALLY needs: masculine energy. One of the reasons… Read more »

Badpainter
Badpainter
10 years ago

scribblerg – “Aggression is always somehow wrong when done by a male if it’s not in direct protection of a woman, and even then she will often second guess him afterwards.”

Aggression/violence is male’s natural analog to hypergamy thus for the female strategy to succeed the male’s strategy must be disarmed to be defeated.

Mr. Cynical would posit that a man who is second guessed by a woman after a protect/defend scenario is protesting that her tingles were shut down prematurely.

Opus
Opus
10 years ago

I always sense (in cuckold porn) that it is very insulting to the Negro – to be seen as merely a large dick with endless stamina. Frankly, had I the power and were I in banning mood, that is one of a number of sub-genres of Porn I would make illegal. For myself, I was romantically linked with no less than three women who rationalised (in my face, as it were with their Hamster) their cheating (or proposed cheating) on me, but that was a long time ago, (1978, 1982 and 1983) and it has not happened to me since,… Read more »

M Simon
10 years ago

sjfrellc July 7th, 2015 at 1:54 am And in reference to the M.C. club, good, bad experience? Would you have done it all over again. You wanted it, got into it by default? It made you a better person? It was a very good experience. I got the outlaw experience – central in some ways to American culture – without having to do a long stretch in stir. Yes. I would do it again. It helps me put on my “bad boy” when ever that is useful. And it is useful not just for girls. The “don’t F with me”… Read more »

M Simon
10 years ago

YaReally
July 7th, 2015 at 4:09 am

Very good. I insisted the LTR get some experience in our early days. It helped in the long run because she doesn’t wonder “could I have done better?”

As to not discussing fight club? Mostly correct. But I have been discussing it with LTR for the last few years and it seems to help when she is surrendered. “I have been totally disrespecting you haven’t I?” “Yes.” “It makes you hot for me don’t it?” “Yes”

More in a while.

Vulpine
Vulpine
10 years ago

@YaReally I wasn’t able to view your first link to the video, as planned obsolescence has my computer requiring more rams in order to run the new flash. But, I read a lot from the second link. I’ve caught myself imagining the future you do, and every time I put it out of my head based on women’s tendency to be infallible. As much as I want to believe that’s the natural progression, just as men are realizing that they need to be better Men, it seems overly optimistic on the surface. Though, I still want to believe, and based… Read more »

Fred Flange, MansLaughter
Fred Flange, MansLaughter
10 years ago

@Scribblerg: Sorry for perhaps being unclear, Bailey’s thesis is entirely consistent with what I am calling old-school behavioral psych. Those doctors/the-rapists who deal with transsexuals (note my use of the medical, un-PC term) will be the first to tell you their protocols for any kind of physical therapy (i.e., hormones, surgery reassignment) are EXTREMELY strict. Because there are a lot of bad results even when the years-long protocols are followed. After all the docs don’t want to be sued. Oh sure, if you have Dead Kardashian Money like whatsitsname then you can afford to slit yourself up a treat. On… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous
10 years ago

I recently read an article in a major newspaper website where a man had written in to an agony aunt that he had found out his wife had been a groupie (i.e. a slut for various band musicians) when she was younger and he was disgusted by this and was contemplating ending the marriage. The readers were invited to respond. Almost all the responses were condemning the man for being judgemental etc. This included responses from other men. (I suspect that there is heavy censorship of alternative points of view with almost all opposing comments being deleted). The FI is… Read more »

Bromeo
Bromeo
10 years ago

@Atticus

LOL, I died at nursing home

bnon
bnon
10 years ago

@scribblerg: I linked to the author because I thought you might find it interesting. No, I listen. The first recommendation was not to talk logically to the girl and the other one was not trying to save the girl at all. I’ve seen enough “in my young years” to believe that a girls emotionally overriding hamster is stronger than the conclusions she’s drawn from logical teaching, so I buy it. I ask question where I thought I could get good answer and I’m happy I did. On the background theory stuff, I must recon that everybodys mind here seems fixed… Read more »

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

YouTube MGTOW Phenomenon Stardusk/Thinking Ape Wrestles with Female Dualistic Sexual Strategy. Listen and then realize thousands of men are listening to him in MGTOW land. He is playing fucking checkers, Rollo plays chess.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwIM5MYhlPY&w=560&h=315%5D

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago

@Atticus, at 52 the nursing home is just on my horizon now, and my guess is that I will be getting some broad to give me a handjob during my last days in hospice, so as for your ageist comment, why not rethink it? I realize M. goes on about it, but I believe him and i get something out of this commentary. Why do you not think he’s for real or that isn’t worthwhile? Can I make a suggestion? Can you crank down the vitriol just a touch and expand on what you don’t believe or get about his… Read more »

Mr T
Mr T
10 years ago

Atticus
@ msimon
“Dread is easy in the nursing home. Try out the real world.”

Nursing home! , THE NUT HOUSE.

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago
Reply to  Mr T

Let me state for the record that I’ve had Kate Minter, LivingTree, Alpha Female, Sunshine Mary, Dee, Elspeth, Bodycrimes, Chockmah and even Aunt Giggles post on TRM.

It’s not what Insanity had to say, it’s how many times she repeated it. If your only point in commenting is to see how many times you can copy & paste the same message you’re spamming.

Trolls I can appreciate. It takes something like conviction to commit to the effort of one’s OCD, but at least the hate is something new each time.

The Diplomat
The Diplomat
10 years ago

@Rollo My heartfelt thanks for giving IB the boot. Too much for too long. Like I said before, you’re a better and more patient man than I. @YaReally I wish more of the naysayers here would just open their minds and listen to what you’re trying to tell them. Their world would be a much better place for it. Your advice and guidance has really helped me to forge a more positive, constructive, and fun mindset when acquiring women in the field and building various types of sexual and plate relationships with them, so thanks a ton for all that… Read more »

The Diplomat
The Diplomat
10 years ago

@Rollo
Not leaving you out of the kudos loop. I’ve already lain on the thanks for all that you do pretty thick on multiple occasions. Don’t want you to get diabetes from it.

Flatnose
Flatnose
10 years ago

Couldn’t resist…..

bnon
bnon
10 years ago

@YaReally
The women crave masculine energy and you say they can then find it, at the same time, in the form of a strong lover man and real father figure for them. They previously had experienced only fathers who hadn’t much to say.
But there is also the saying that women seek partners that who are like their father. What happens here?

Mr T
Mr T
10 years ago

I wonder who is going to be the cuckold of Sheryl Sandberg.

Is she gonna give a new doctrine to women! Like say :
And after your beta dies or you leave him, make sure to find another beta/cuckold to finance you and your kids and trust me there is nothing sexier than a good cuckold.

sjfrellc
sjfrellc
10 years ago

“It’s not what Insanity had to say, it’s how many times she repeated it. If your only point in commenting is to see how many times you can copy & paste the same message you’re spamming. Trolls I can appreciate. It takes something like conviction to commit to the effort of one’s OCD, but at least the hate is something new each time.” Her expressed thoughts were inscrutable. But the intent to ride rough-shod as a church lady over the needs of men with no empathy was idiotic. Show up and bash everyone. She could get away with it in… Read more »

Sam Botta (@sambotta)
10 years ago

Tom Leykis is retweeting (Rollo Tomassi) on twitter this hour.

http://twitter.com/RationalMale

YaReally
10 years ago

@badpainter “Aggression/violence is male’s natural analog to hypergamy thus for the female strategy to succeed the male’s strategy must be disarmed to be defeated.” I agree with this. It’s working, too. Part of why I don’t care if a girl is taken is that in the <2008s(ish) if a girl for caught cheating the guy she's cheating with would get the shit kicked out of him and the boyfriend's buddies would rally up and hunt him down. They say that guy is an asshole who disrespected you, lets get him! But now? I don't worry at all about that. Because… Read more »

Atticus
Atticus
10 years ago

@scribbleberg (are you Glenn?)

I believe Simon. I would love to have a beer with him. That would be one hell of a conversation: outlaw motorcycle gang, LSD, navy man, two solid 10 daughters, herbivore in the basement, invented the I/O for bulletin boards back in the day, the 1962 red pill girl, desktop fusio., lord knows what else he’s seen.

My thing is the repetition. It gets like fingers nails on a chalkboard with the dread game on his wife.

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago
Reply to  Atticus

Yes I am Glenn, am making myself more incognito going forward for reasons not obvious here. Thanks for clarifying.

Atticus
Atticus
10 years ago

@Rollo

Kate Minter has a post on IB22’s blog not long saying you blocked her. She said you were invited to her wedding and claimed she was doxing you. Her and insanity bash you pretty good in that exchange.

Glad you blocked IB22.

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago
Reply to  Atticus

Kate’s full of shit. She knows damn well she can post here any time she wants. So can Mark, in fact I’d welcome him, considering Roosh’s recent religious conversion.

I’m still waiting for a shot of her and Mark in the same place together much less a wedding photo. I still don’t buy it.

MetaXIII
MetaXIII
10 years ago

I remember how I felt the first time I saw cuckold porn. It made me sick to my stomach. I couldn’t believe how the woman treated and humiliated her “husband/boyfriend”. What was worse, was that the guy allowed it. How pathetic does someone have to be to let his woman fuck someone else in front of him and then be humiliated about how much bigger/better the other guy is. Well at that point in my life I was very beta and a 22 year old virgin. In the next 5 years I got a gf, had her cheat on me,… Read more »

Atticus
Atticus
10 years ago

@Glenn

Kate bashes you in that comment also. She didn’t call you a liar like she did Rollo though.

We’re all in a mean girl cult and Rollo is the high priest.

scribblerg
scribblerg
10 years ago
Reply to  Atticus

Best part about who I am now? The thought that Kate and IB are bashing me means I’ve rented space in their heads at no charge – my exact purpose in ripping those harpies to shreds in the first place. But while they do so, I don’t think about either of them at all, ever. They might as well not exist.

Blaximus
Blaximus
10 years ago

@striver July 6th, 2015 at 7:53 pm Military guys may be tough, but look at what is required of their emotional makeup: consistency, self-sacrifice, loyalty, adherence to hierarchy, etc. This is the opposite of an amoral, opportunistic, emotional, inconsistent woman. It’s no surprise that they would not understand and struggle to handle women. Thugs do better with women because they share their traits. They’re basically women with a package. So they do better than the “man’s man”, masculine alpha types. It seems like you don’t know any real thugs ( I’m not talking about dime-store wannabe thugs, but the real… Read more »

YaReally
10 years ago

@Vulpine Sorry, should’ve put the title. “The Great Happiness Space” Find it and give it a watch if you haven’t. It’s a fascinating look at women paying men insane amounts of money to give them “good feels” and will probably be a thing that catches on here in the future with all these working girls’ and their money. Ironically while the Disney prince charming who loves you even at your worst fantasy is what’s fucking society up, that’s the same fantasy that I think will make the Happiness Space style host clubs take a while to catch on or possibly… Read more »

Atticus
Atticus
10 years ago

https://insanitybytes2.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/misogyny-and-christianity/ Here’s the link to the post. If you look at the post, scroll down to the comments and click on her Gravatar Profile there is a picture of her and her husband. Don’t know Mark Minter, but in their photo he looks like the head vampire, Bill Nye, in Underworld. Insanity: I don’t know if you’re aware, but I was banned from RationalMale. In the fall, I think it was. Rollo Tomassi *is* a liar when he says his forum is a free and open place for intellectual discourse. I wouldn’t expect much from a man who makes a… Read more »

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago
Reply to  Atticus

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Who’s the liar?

HowlingManTodd
HowlingManTodd
10 years ago

If anyone here needed evidence that negging has strong long-lasting effects:

https://twitter.com/quintywinties/status/615638801864617985

YaReally
10 years ago

@The Diplomat “I wish more of the naysayers here would just open their minds and listen to what you’re trying to tell them. Their world would be a much better place for it. Your advice and guidance has really helped me to forge a more positive, constructive, and fun mindset when acquiring women in the field and building various types of sexual and plate relationships with them, so thanks a ton for all that you do and say on everyone’s behalf. It is greatly appreciated. As you’ve rightly deduced in the past, a good percentage of the lurkers out there… Read more »

YaReally
10 years ago

@bnon “But there is also the saying that women seek partners that who are like their father. What happens here?” That’s bullshit said by guys waxing social theories who don’t get laid. No girl is seeking a pushover beta chode just because her dad was one just like if your mom is fat that doesn’t give you a fat fetish. She MIGHT look for that in a long term Provider to marry because she picked up notions of that being how a marriage is supposed to look and seeing the benefits of having a guy she can boss around from… Read more »

Atticus
Atticus
10 years ago

Gotta love the adesgamer in those comments. Like I said. Glad you banned IB22.

redlight
redlight
10 years ago

I would never think to look at the comments on ib’s blog, partly because I would never think to look at her blog

Kate makes a good point, Rollo is going to the dogs, literally. Quite the shame, giving money to a good cause.

and men talking like men, even more shame, it makes women sick. not to worry, the FI drones will clean this up.

YaReally
10 years ago

Actually here’s the best way of putting my Roosh World Summit gripes, I wish I had thought of this for my original post lol: If you gather 40 men who focus on complaining about how society is going to hell and who prioritize their business, working out, hobbies, discussing world events and social philosophy and feminism and how much north american women suck, etc. above approaching women, and those men all go out for a night on the town in a major city in the prime nightlife district after a seminar where they’ve just met 39 other men who prioritize… Read more »

Rollo Tomassi
10 years ago
Reply to  YaReally

@YaReally, I read about the most recent London stop on the Roosh World Tour. He had 38 guys in Berlin, 66 in London. I can’t imagine airfare, lodging, booking the classroom size venues and after-lecture food & drink come cheap. So the next question is how is this ‘tour’ feasible? It’s feasible because he made enough scratch from the Dr. Oz show to take a chance on it. If that sound like a stretch then consider that he had the BBC OK’d and ready to go to interview him and his paying guests at the London gig for a documentary… Read more »

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